Do INITIAL D Techniques DESTROY Cars?

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  • @Brorandomest
    @Brorandomest 7 місяців тому +2211

    "if the 86 can do then i can do it"
    -16 year old miata driver

    • @ClimaxChainsaw
      @ClimaxChainsaw 7 місяців тому +91

      *GO BEAT CRAZY~*

    • @katagiriharuki
      @katagiriharuki 7 місяців тому +33

      Also a Yellow GR Supra driver from MF Ghost 😂

    • @bolson42
      @bolson42 7 місяців тому +8

      @@katagiriharuki
      spoiler???

    • @deathgaming3086
      @deathgaming3086 7 місяців тому +8

      Lol the miata in the series tried and he crashed

    • @impatientpatient8270
      @impatientpatient8270 7 місяців тому +11

      @@bolson42 mf ghost is too much of a disappointment for anyone to remotely care about spoiling it

  • @RoyalMisfortune
    @RoyalMisfortune 7 місяців тому +2129

    Jokes on you, I destroy my car with any technique...

    • @logurtboi5702
      @logurtboi5702 7 місяців тому +46

      Same, my techniques usually end up in ditches and guard rails

    • @caledonianrailway1233
      @caledonianrailway1233 7 місяців тому +35

      “Ultimate technique downshift into first”

    • @kazuhiramiller2121
      @kazuhiramiller2121 7 місяців тому +23

      Amateur, I can destroy my car driving on a straight line

    • @zezarnine
      @zezarnine 7 місяців тому

      😢​@@logurtboi5702

    • @ThunderBlitz03
      @ThunderBlitz03 7 місяців тому +10

      You think you’re good? I can destroy my car before I even leave the starting line

  • @Yavore346
    @Yavore346 7 місяців тому +1284

    Nah, mate, the inner wheel lift works beautifully. You need to enter the corner at a higher speed and a lower angle and be very smooth, your steering inputs were very erratic. The weight must be off the front wheel before going over the gutter. If done correctly you can't break your suspension as the wheel doesn't fall down in the gutter. The manoeuvre was a bit exaggerated in Initial D as your wheel is in the air just for a split second - right on the tip of the apex. You aren't supposed to go over the gutter right on the entry - that would never work.

    • @KingDeadMan
      @KingDeadMan 7 місяців тому +36

      That's what I'm saying. 😌👍

    • @X-Caliber02
      @X-Caliber02 7 місяців тому +81

      Was gonna say, I play BeamNG ALOT, especially on this Map because it's best one imo... Getting close enough to the gutter is one problem, but when I do, I succeed the lift more than I fail it, it numerous different cars, again, favourites being the AE86, R31 & FB RX7

    • @stoobidthing
      @stoobidthing 7 місяців тому +62

      He probably plays on a keyboard, notice that the tires almost immediately lock when turning

    • @tacticalreload
      @tacticalreload 7 місяців тому +3

      he literally did that in the video 🤓

    • @M4theusIcaro
      @M4theusIcaro 7 місяців тому +5

      Please, don't try this IRL man....

  • @lusciouslunk
    @lusciouslunk 7 місяців тому +776

    Inner wheel lift depends on a LOT of factors, I feel like it wasn’t given enough chances.

    • @tyiscringe
      @tyiscringe 7 місяців тому +28

      ^this lol I get the 200bx to do it just fine sometimes.

    • @lusciouslunk
      @lusciouslunk 7 місяців тому +24

      @@tyiscringe right?? And I can do it in a Civic on Forza Motorsport 6 on the Nordschlief, but I guess we are limited to JUST touge now

    • @Ikaros---
      @Ikaros--- 7 місяців тому +38

      @@lusciouslunk it's not even "JUST touge" it's "one corner on one touge" where it's not even the ideal line.

    • @lusciouslunk
      @lusciouslunk 7 місяців тому +13

      @@Ikaros--- for real, kinda lazy, I demand a new video!

    • @erixccjc2143
      @erixccjc2143 7 місяців тому +16

      Well, the fact that this was all done on a controller with someone not very good on controller at the wheel didnt make it better

  • @thomasisready
    @thomasisready 7 місяців тому +409

    Everybody knows that all of these techniques PALE in comparison to the mythical, majestic and legendary SLIPANGLE

    • @roccofigueroa7839
      @roccofigueroa7839 7 місяців тому +27

      You have to be a scientist to even know the definition of slip angle

    • @Tha-mountain
      @Tha-mountain 7 місяців тому +15

      @@roccofigueroa7839 tire says me no want drift while u want drift.
      I have a PhD
      A PRETTY HUGE D

    • @KingDeadMan
      @KingDeadMan 7 місяців тому +5

      ​@@roccofigueroa7839 What he said. ☝️😂

    • @SPARTEN007
      @SPARTEN007 7 місяців тому +3

      ​@@Tha-mountainYes exactly what you said😆

    • @Rey-vm9it
      @Rey-vm9it 7 місяців тому +4

      inner wheel lift can actually be a biproduct of slipangle depending on the car. shift lock can also be used to initiate slipangle.

  • @anoiceperson6447
    @anoiceperson6447 7 місяців тому +225

    For the gutter run technique, the gutters on Mount Akina are not that deep, which makes the gutter run more viable.
    Takumi actually encountered some problems with the gutter run technique on two occasions:
    - on the battle vs the Miata NA, the track they chose had the gutters that deep, and thus Ryosuke proposed him to NOT use the gutters, but instead shift all the weight on the back in order to pass the gutter and access the grass on the inside. The Miata tried to gutter run and.. well...
    - on the battle vs the S2000, the gutters weren't as deep but were divided by some bricks (as a sort of sidewalk), and Takumi was encouraged not to use those gutters or else his suspension would fail. Unfortunately, he had to use the gutter run technique as a last resort, and lo and behold, the suspensions broke
    EDIT: corrected some typos

    • @County_Cars_official
      @County_Cars_official Місяць тому +1

      Да я согласен, но есть претензии и ко второй технике. Когда автор ехал на "мр2", то перед прыжком там была кочка, из-за неё у него и не получалось так прыгнуть. В инициал ди её там не было, поэтому там мр2 спокойно прыгнул и не сломал передний бампер.

  • @DaveAdams222
    @DaveAdams222 7 місяців тому +287

    Shift lock is a real thing used by real drivers outside of rally. I've used it at a few drift events when my hydraulic handbrake was like "nah, mate, your pads are too hot". It does make you super nervous the first time you do it, but you just "promise" yourself that you'll only use it in dire situations . . . which is a lie. You're gonna do it a bunch more.

    • @LordSethrik
      @LordSethrik 7 місяців тому +12

      It's usually fine until it isn't, my old boss has a group 4 Triumph Dolomite touring car, hes been racing it for 25 years, with several rebuilds but original block, on a race day last year he killed the engine by shift locking too aggressively, his telemetry registered 20k rpm (very briefly) but he's been doing that for 25+ years and it's the first time the motor has destroyed itself
      And by killed the engine I mean a forged Mahle Conrod snapped, and then proceeded to shear the entire cast iron block in two, it was quite spectacular

    • @DaveAdams222
      @DaveAdams222 6 місяців тому +7

      @@LordSethrik I love that phrase and use it all the time (well a turn of that phrase anyway) I typically say something along the lines of "It's fine all the way to the point where it isn't" HAHA!

    • @taqial-faris6421
      @taqial-faris6421 4 місяці тому

      How is it any different from the dreaded money-shift?

    • @user-to7ds6sc3p
      @user-to7ds6sc3p 4 місяці тому +1

      @@taqial-faris6421 you don't want to overrev your engine when shift locking. You slow down first and the shift down without revmatching so the low RPM(relative to tire speed) will cause the wheels to lock and cause a slide while additionally puting you into the correct gear to accelerate through/out of the corner.

  • @kenzo5596
    @kenzo5596 7 місяців тому +331

    my dude just decided to do everything possible for the inner wheel lift to fail and then blame it for not working smh oh and not knowing its purpose

    • @offbrandbiscuit
      @offbrandbiscuit 7 місяців тому +50

      It's weird too because he did an entire video on the inner wheel lift where he frequently executed it on multiple corners, but also showed that it's difficult and can fail if you don't transfer the weight at the right time and have enough speed going over the gutters

    • @kenzo5596
      @kenzo5596 7 місяців тому +3

      @@offbrandbiscuit yee i regularly do it myself too but tbh it isnt that hard but its a fun skill and looks good ill prob make a video when i can proving him wrong doing it in beamng

    • @confusedredditor1660
      @confusedredditor1660 6 місяців тому +1

      not to mention trying it in a tricky short series of esses

    • @confusedredditor1660
      @confusedredditor1660 6 місяців тому +1

      you don't do it in such a short corner with another left corner coming immediately

    • @ytgamercz
      @ytgamercz 4 місяці тому

      @@offbrandbiscuit he considers reality, in reality it's a stupid techinque all tho it's not a stupid technique in beamng if done properly on a proper place, it just has many conditions and factors, and it's not too bad in beamng, good for fun and style, but reality is a different story

  • @thedriver82
    @thedriver82 7 місяців тому +133

    I do blind attacks on touge with my friends. A bit dangerous but it works well.
    Inner wheel lift is possible, I saw a pro driver doing it during a rally in France.
    The Hirohazaka jump is just for the show in the cartoon.

    • @gundamchris1233
      @gundamchris1233 7 місяців тому +5

      It’s been done in rally but on that type of incline there’s definitely damage they even mention it in the show

    • @Xtrachunky
      @Xtrachunky 6 місяців тому +1

      You’re confusing inner wheel lift with a gutter run

    • @nothingtoseehere551
      @nothingtoseehere551 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@XtrachunkyNo

    • @nothingtoseehere551
      @nothingtoseehere551 6 місяців тому

      ​@@XtrachunkyNo

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber Місяць тому

      The Irohazaka jump is more than just for show, but it's not useful for going fast. What it is is a hyper-aggressive overtaking move, because while you lose speed, you do clear the apex earlier than you would taking the turn normally. Your opponent's only response is to either slam on the brakes and let you get ahead, or literally let you land on top of them.

  • @Kiara-qn5bb
    @Kiara-qn5bb 6 місяців тому +52

    I love how he never used any of the cars that were put in the anime with real damage on. Just sus.

  • @acescionti711
    @acescionti711 7 місяців тому +122

    Bruh. Thats not how inner wheel lift works. It’s shifting the weight of the car to the back tires and giving them more grip. It’s a super high skilled expression of putting the car on center of balance and achieving maximum cornering speed. You got inner wheel lift and standard gutter run confused. A gutter run is the one were you let the tires hook into a more traditional gutter where instead of being an open void it’s an opposing camber ditch that isn’t much deeper than the road. It’s just a area of depression

    • @TSRB
      @TSRB  7 місяців тому +6

      So like the one I did in the video?

    • @acescionti711
      @acescionti711 7 місяців тому +46

      @@TSRB standard gutter run. Is what you did in the video. Inner wheel lift is hovering your inner tire over without hooking it in I’ll link a video that better explains it.

    • @acescionti711
      @acescionti711 7 місяців тому +29

      Oh wait. I’ve been stupid so sorry. Just realized this was a troll vid. Please forgive my idiocy

    • @kyototomokui6676
      @kyototomokui6676 6 місяців тому +3

      Oh hi Ace!

    • @acescionti711
      @acescionti711 6 місяців тому

      @@kyototomokui6676 hello. I know you off YT. Whats your name on social media? I can’t tell who this is exactly atm

  • @Bolts17
    @Bolts17 7 місяців тому +167

    the hidden headlight trick certainly does work if you do it right lol

    • @theprofessionalidiots3109
      @theprofessionalidiots3109 7 місяців тому

      Especially if your tazio nuvolari

    • @ossharkuenmeursault5609
      @ossharkuenmeursault5609 7 місяців тому +17

      seen video of guy running from the police by turning headlights off :D

    • @noneyawa
      @noneyawa 7 місяців тому +18

      In the show turning off the 86's head lights put them away so the car was more aerodynamic , but with the bonus of surprising your opponent

    • @justchrisyt9279
      @justchrisyt9279 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@noneyawawould drag really even affect a car that much going maximum 160 kph?

    • @MarekPrzelot
      @MarekPrzelot 6 місяців тому

      ​@@justchrisyt9279 yeap

  • @PexeCru
    @PexeCru 7 місяців тому +185

    skill issue

    • @tacticalreload
      @tacticalreload 7 місяців тому +5

      thats bold when you have videos of you driving worse than this on your channel

    • @PexeCru
      @PexeCru 7 місяців тому +16

      @@tacticalreload wait till I get my hands on a wheel, and stop stalking me lol

    • @Martoth0
      @Martoth0 5 місяців тому +10

      @@tacticalreload
      Patient: develops a tumor
      Doctor: Performs surgery
      Patient: Gets infection from bad procedure, complains to the doctor
      Doctor: BoLd of YOu tO CoMpLAin WhEn you cOULDn't eVen Open sOMeonE Up IN thE RighT PLAcE
      That's what you sound like

    • @imgkaizer
      @imgkaizer 5 місяців тому +7

      ​@@tacticalreloadI don't need to be a world class chef to say my steak is carbonized when the waiter brings it to me

    • @pierre6339
      @pierre6339 5 місяців тому +3

      Not going to lie, that was my first thought just reading the title. The point of the show was that the guy was pulling off some really difficult to pull off maneuvers with ease.

  • @endlessvoid4888
    @endlessvoid4888 7 місяців тому +53

    When you were using the 240BX you weren’t even drifting when you tried to inner wheel lift

  • @EH2276cam
    @EH2276cam 7 місяців тому +18

    Ngl the blind attack works but only if you are EXTREMELY familiar with the track and you know exactly where you have a chance to overtake

  • @thepacerman
    @thepacerman 5 місяців тому +18

    1:16 “if an 86 can do it so can my car”

  • @Anigaming-dz5gh
    @Anigaming-dz5gh 7 місяців тому +20

    As someone who's done these things in Beam with a basic wheel setup and MT, the Gutter Run and Shift Lock techniques can work. Gutter Runs require speed and low angle - which is what helps Takumi run the corner so much faster - since at a long mid speed turn after a straight, you get quite some speed. So how do you turn without slowing down as much? Gutter running, you can do it in racing sims / simcades on tracks with sweeping turns.
    As for Shiftlocking, i remember having driven on one massive mountain road map (right i forgot the name) in an Ibishu Pessima '96, tuned DOHC engine and everything. I did the method and it did show the car down but i did have to tap the brakes a little since my tuning skills at the time were sh*te (i was like 15) so it is possible - so long as you don't do it too much.

  • @Thudney
    @Thudney 4 місяці тому +17

    0:26 "if done right your wheel would hook into a gutter" WRONG, with these types of gutters hooking isnt wanted, S04E02 midpoint in anime ;) , so no car will not rotate more than usual with inner wheel lift, its used to find more space between other car and corner, not a speed increase

    • @realherobrine5636
      @realherobrine5636 4 місяці тому

      youre just wrong buddy

    • @coconut_dr9194
      @coconut_dr9194 3 місяці тому +3

      @@realherobrine5636 no he aint, it was mainly used to glide over the gutter to overtake another guy on the inside while still keeping your tires on the road

  • @-nkn0wn
    @-nkn0wn 6 місяців тому +12

    This dude has serious skill issues and then he blames the techniques for not working

  • @TheJonTendo
    @TheJonTendo 6 місяців тому +14

    How about those techniques:
    - 4 wheel drift
    - Slip Angle
    - Gutter Run
    - screaming while driving a Nissan Skyline R34 GTR to concentrate on the race
    -breaking and using gas paddle at the same time
    or simply
    - change the AE86 for an AE85

  • @mokopanemakhetha5849
    @mokopanemakhetha5849 4 місяці тому +9

    I knew this was going to go badly when he called initial D a cartoon. And i was right

  • @Rally_Armaments
    @Rally_Armaments 7 місяців тому +4

    I've done the wheel lift all the time when chasing my friends on tight kart tracks while tandem drifting. You have to have softer suspension squatting at around full throttle to cause your car to pickup the front end just enough so it doesn't dip into the corner. Once you get the hang of it, it's quite easy to replicate. I've even done the one where you drop two tires in a gutter but that one heavily depends on your cars ride height, gutter shape, and if you care about your alignment.

  • @ddrfreak4578
    @ddrfreak4578 Місяць тому +2

    Fun fact. Gutter run is done irl with R34 GT-R^^

  • @yeboysalty8152
    @yeboysalty8152 7 місяців тому +6

    This video might be a good representation of the irl gutter trick if the gutter you picked wasnt 47 feet below the ground. The gutters in initial D are significantly more shallow, so much so that the 86 literally drives on them rather then sinking in them. The inside of the wheel hooks onto the inside of the gutter and with enough weight shift you get back on the road. Here you're just dropping into the pits of hell

  • @crimzonplays1134
    @crimzonplays1134 6 днів тому +1

    It is so funny reading people crying about how you didn’t do the most likely-to-mess-up technique well enough. It’s a video game, emulating a move from an anime, chances of it actually working, much less in real life, are obviously very slim.

  • @TrigMe.
    @TrigMe. 6 місяців тому +14

    The inner wheel lift technique is used because the AE86 can't take the turns as well because of the low grip. Not including the fact that you didn't use the correct gutter. The correct gutter allows you to "drive" while in it, allowing the AE86 to travel faster. On the wide turns with the gutters, he puts both tires into it to let him gain more speed while driving in the gutter. On the sharper turns, he only puts the one front tire into it to turn much faster.

    • @TrigMe.
      @TrigMe. 6 місяців тому +5

      Not only that, but the headlight technique is used on courses that Takumi knew.

    • @Chleb-rw7kf
      @Chleb-rw7kf 6 місяців тому +1

      He isnt talking about the putting the tires in the gutter but rather letting them "float", they arent touching the ground

  • @SteamUser-kx3he
    @SteamUser-kx3he 6 місяців тому +3

    Watching you "Drift" with that open diff made me wanna call my internet provider and ask him to disconnect my wifi

  • @hopik512
    @hopik512 7 місяців тому +23

    I feel like the autor didnt pay attention on the gutter trick. You either lift the wheel and straighten the corner or you hang the wheel in and turn better

    • @TSRB
      @TSRB  7 місяців тому +2

      I feel like you didn't pay attention to my explanation of it at the start

    • @am_sousa2246
      @am_sousa2246 7 місяців тому +10

      I mean if the gutters were like the ones in akina hanging the wheel would actually work but on these gutters is just asking to toast the underbody

  • @erikwilliam1254
    @erikwilliam1254 5 місяців тому +3

    The nice thing about initial d, they actually explain how they pulled the maneuver off.
    With enough practice and experience, you could probably pull off most tricks in the anime.

  • @sushi_enthusiast
    @sushi_enthusiast 7 місяців тому +15

    I think the difference is the type of gutter for the inner wheel lift. that's a very aggressive gutter no?

    • @Miatr101
      @Miatr101 7 місяців тому +2

      they did it with those kinds of gutters in Initial D. He even used the same course as in one of the races where the Inner-Wheel-Lift is used

    • @bubbleman2002
      @bubbleman2002 7 місяців тому +6

      The problem is he isn't putting the weight over the rear before steering over the gap, so the wheel falls in, and catches, causing the tie rod to bend or break, rather than keeping the wheel in the air, which is desirable as if it's not touching the ground, it can't be sapping the chassis' overall grip, since it has none in the air. A more shallow gutter which is rounded would protect the suspension from being loaded directly by acting through the tire instead, but this kind demands you DO NOT allow the wheel to fall in, otherwise the steering will suffer.

    • @Giuliana-w1f
      @Giuliana-w1f 7 місяців тому +2

      The agressive gutter requires the lift to go over it. The smaller ones it can just drop

  • @LiljamezZz
    @LiljamezZz 7 місяців тому +7

    For the inner wheel lift you have to be sliding and on the throttle almost through the whole corner to distribute more weight to the rear

  • @Kradyn
    @Kradyn 5 місяців тому +2

    The inner wheel lift is a certified move to squeeze into the inner lane tragectory of the turn to overtake the opponent and not to flex or go faster in the turn.
    To go faster in the turn, other technique was used in Initial D's 1st season - go into a shallow water drain with both your inner wheels (like shown at Mount Akina).

  • @Sinichi_Maki
    @Sinichi_Maki 7 місяців тому +9

    6:20 you were too fast ... That doesent mean it doesent work..... Also use the enemies headlights tobsee whats ahead.... I feel like you have never watched initial d ever and just watched the technique....

  • @smallbutdeadly931
    @smallbutdeadly931 7 місяців тому +11

    This is just a PSA video for those who think they're perfect drivers and have a car to try this with

  • @lokei69189
    @lokei69189 7 місяців тому +19

    A few years ago you were a fan of the inner wheel lift.
    what happened? you know it is effective!

    • @TSRB
      @TSRB  7 місяців тому +13

      In a racing simulator where your wheels can't fall off!

    • @brokebackmountainlover
      @brokebackmountainlover 7 місяців тому +7

      @@TSRB inner wheel lift works great if you've got a car you know and a map you've played a lot. I think the biggest problem you had was that you didn't put enough weight on the front which made it harder for you to actually get a nice entry

    • @ieurobeatkids9378
      @ieurobeatkids9378 7 місяців тому

      Please try this in real life. If you come back without a scratched up underbody from bottoming out i'll pay you $1000 (definitely not 😂minopoly money😂)​@brokebackmountainlover

    • @amirjamali5775
      @amirjamali5775 7 місяців тому +7

      @@TSRB people do it somtimes in real life too but you shouldn't hook your tires in you should create a heavy weight transfer by putting your foot on the gas and you shouldn't do it on the entry thats not what takumi did just read @Yavore346 's comment

    • @Giuliana-w1f
      @Giuliana-w1f 7 місяців тому +3

      ​@@brokebackmountainlover i'd say the opposite, too much weight in the front; and too much angle.

  • @OutrideMaro
    @OutrideMaro 6 місяців тому +1

    5:34 I think the issue with everyone failing the irohazaka jump is that you aren't treating it as a corner. You're doing a full stop and then accelerating. I think that if you were to use the same cornering technique as you usually do, but in the inner inner line it could work.

  • @thegreator
    @thegreator 4 місяці тому +4

    It's not a gutter. Initial D uses rain ditch around 10cm deep that is enough to sink your tyre but not hitting your swing arm or front body.
    Your gutter is too deep you basically just skidding with your swing arm, which is wrong.

  • @justausernamehere
    @justausernamehere 7 місяців тому +22

    You used the wrong hairpin for the jump.

    • @TSRB
      @TSRB  7 місяців тому +1

      If I used the other one, people would say the same thing

    • @M4theusIcaro
      @M4theusIcaro 7 місяців тому +4

      Even in the right one, you will be slower and crash your car

    • @sajeucettefoistunevaspasme
      @sajeucettefoistunevaspasme 4 місяці тому

      you would need to DESIGN the haipin for it to be worth it

  • @Xg4531YT
    @Xg4531YT 7 місяців тому +39

    1:43 bro called initial d a cartoon 💀💀💀

    • @SergeantSniper
      @SergeantSniper 7 місяців тому +14

      it is
      anime is a type of cartoon
      sorry but it is, and that's not a bad thing

    • @misterjersey5460
      @misterjersey5460 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@SergeantSniperI literally made a meme about that

    • @natgobrrOW
      @natgobrrOW 3 місяці тому

      It practically is

    • @Kenma-r4q
      @Kenma-r4q 3 місяці тому +1

      @@SergeantSniper They are similar but not the same.

    • @HeIsHarsh
      @HeIsHarsh 2 місяці тому

      ​@@SergeantSniper Even Cartoons are not Cartoons 🤣🤣🤣 They're animations. Cartoon in reality actually meant a visual art which was drawn. Animation came in much much later in the picture (pun intended)

  • @G_de_Coligny
    @G_de_Coligny 7 місяців тому +7

    LET ME STOP YOU RIGHT THERE.
    I'v driven more than one Japanese mountain road with these fracking open gutters, they are often covered with vegetation and somewhat randomly shielded or not by a concrete tile.
    Luckily I was driving slowly, both time but I got one 1 front wheel and once 2 right side wheel dropped into the gutter.
    offroad 4wd van Mitsu Delia D:5. The traction control sh1t itself on the spot, even after deactivation no amount of throttle or rocking will get you out of these in one piece (open diff not helping).
    Each time I had to bust out the farm jack, lift the wheel itself and squeeze my aluminum fording/loading ramp under the wheel to create a makeshift bridge and get out. in Japanese summer, it was not fun at all...

    • @G_de_Coligny
      @G_de_Coligny 7 місяців тому +1

      ok...FWD and RWD do not affect the weight distribution by much, that's the position of the engine who do... try a Porsche or an Alpine Renault A110

    • @coconut_dr9194
      @coconut_dr9194 7 місяців тому

      @@G_de_Colignyrad and fwd would change it cus as in the video he drifted the turns with is impossible to do and still have Wheels that power the car tuch the ground.

    • @G_de_Coligny
      @G_de_Coligny 7 місяців тому

      @@coconut_dr9194 yea but he was talking about weight distribution at that moment, not power delivery since the biggest issue was to keep the chassis 1 on piece at the time

  • @d0ge666
    @d0ge666 Місяць тому +1

    The inner wheel lift is called that because by drifting at a constant high speed, you are putting your weight on the rear end of the car, which has both wheels on the ground, that helping you with basically having either front wheel (depends on which way your cornering) lift up in order to not get stuck in a gutter and at the same time getting a faster racing line. You are definitely NOT supposed to let your wheel down in THAT type of gutter, you could in the closed type of gutter but that doesn’t use the inner wheel lift technique. Your wheel isn’t supposed to “hook” into the gutter to be “faster” than gripping, but get a better racing line. It literally is used in real life by professional drivers in these types of courses, there is also some videos debunking this technique.

  • @evoenjoyer3759
    @evoenjoyer3759 7 місяців тому +28

    maybe use a wheel for these techniques

  • @PexeCru
    @PexeCru 7 місяців тому +17

    blind attack does work, but is extremely hard to do it without crashing lol.

    • @_MichaelForte25
      @_MichaelForte25 6 місяців тому +1

      Right he literally just proved that it’s possible not to mention you can fucking see the road kind of

    • @PexeCru
      @PexeCru 6 місяців тому

      @@_MichaelForte25 i didn't understand what you're trying to say

    • @Cool1st
      @Cool1st 19 днів тому

      ⁠​⁠@@_MichaelForte25proper grammar is very important in order to not sound like an angry child

  • @imfred0941
    @imfred0941 Місяць тому

    1:16 "IF THAT 86 CAN DO IT SO CAN MY CAR"
    -Toru's last words

  • @woundwortrx124tr6
    @woundwortrx124tr6 6 місяців тому +1

    Pretty sure they said the inner wheel lift only works in very specific areas where the gutters are built to be shallower, enough so as to let the car not scrape the ground

  • @Chleb-rw7kf
    @Chleb-rw7kf 6 місяців тому +2

    I dont know what the show is suppose to be but 1. someone certainly can shift their weight off the front left or front right wheel so it would stay in the air (for a very short time), 2. I cant really say anything about the jump 🤷‍♂️
    3. The "turning your headlights off" thing would probably work, just cutting in the other persons line before entering a turn is probably not wise.
    I can certainly believe that those things that he tried to do work and would probably work easier with different cars but I sure as hell wont try any of those

  • @greenkilla45
    @greenkilla45 17 днів тому +1

    3:37 it aster if u use another drift tech and not these beamng configs, also drains on nagao its not same as in akina, this stuff didnt work w nagao drains. I say this as guy who do 500 hours of Nagao downhill in this game (at all)
    im not that good as driver in video anyway, but if u do highspeed cornering on bad tires it helps, or if u wanna do a takeover in these plases

  • @sambalzone94
    @sambalzone94 7 місяців тому +11

    You forgot 1 more. Gutter run at tsukuba fruits line. The tyres actually hook on. Only for low grip tyres ofc. Grip with slicks will always be faster
    Edit: Also, the inner wheel lift does feel different in beamng than in ac. I noticed that you really need to commit at really high speed and don't lift. I remember doing like 80~90 kph on that first gutter from the top with 200bx. A mod car hirochi brat also works well on that

  • @Manning0151
    @Manning0151 6 місяців тому

    The important thing to note, is something Ryosuke says when Takumi uses the modified inner wheel lift, that you have to be on the power the entire time the wheel is in the gutter so all the weight remains on the rear axle, it’s also something Takumi has done many times
    TLDR doable but hard

  • @issackaiser
    @issackaiser 2 місяці тому +1

    Guys, the gutter run is what happened with the red 200 bx the first time. Inner wheel lift is hooking just the front wheel to the side of the gutter so that the wheel barely float above the gutter for an instant. You don't jump into it instantly, you pick the tip of the apex for it. Unlike gutter run which is just dump the car in gutter and floor it.

  • @BrunoVentura22
    @BrunoVentura22 7 місяців тому +3

    If you say that this video is right, you are wrong.
    If you say that this video is wrong, you are wrong.
    I just love TSRB

  • @timberhead2069
    @timberhead2069 4 місяці тому +1

    Remember, it's not the car that is a monster but the driver.

  • @HugEBear42
    @HugEBear42 6 місяців тому +2

    The inner wheel lift has been done irl a few times... there's videos too

  • @Torqbruhh
    @Torqbruhh 7 місяців тому +1

    3:06 bro just accidently did the cleanest inner wheel lift 360

  • @TheXXDude
    @TheXXDude 6 місяців тому +1

    The overhang gutter drift is a viable technique use in Touge its allows the user to go faster as it basically a faster line as its more closer to the straight.
    The over shoot otherwise crazy mr2 jump is a simple wrc technique used by Teri Mack when he drove his Subaru against a opeal.
    I know all this cause my dad raced alot and i learned alot of this stuff on my own cause my dad said "if you can learn it on your own you can learn anything" and i did exactly that

  • @scdkora
    @scdkora 6 місяців тому +2

    I tried to do gutter run irl, but all I can do is almost a T O R U F L I P

  • @patrick_0206
    @patrick_0206 6 місяців тому +1

    skill issue, the "inner whell lift" do works irl and in game, i drive a brasilian chevette SL 1986 sedan RWD turbo with 140hp etanol powered, wich it does and i do touge with him, and that technique fully works, what you are missing is that the whell cant fall any inch into the water thing, in a drift the front inside wheel gets suspended in the air, so it dont needs any road below, and with that you can make a "straighter" turn in a faster speed

  • @Mark_Proton
    @Mark_Proton 7 місяців тому +2

    I actually have successfully managed to perform the gutter run. I did run over my own fender lining in the process, but otherwise it did allow me to outcorner much more well engineered cars.

    • @Giuliana-w1f
      @Giuliana-w1f 7 місяців тому

      The gutter run is the complete opposite from inner wheel lift. The wheel lift requires you to take off weight from the front

    • @Mark_Proton
      @Mark_Proton 7 місяців тому

      @@Giuliana-w1f Also did manage a wheel lift to "jump" over an open mancover I failed to notice in time. Not perfectly, but the guy behind me hit it so hard his airbags deployed.

  • @MS_Toons
    @MS_Toons 6 місяців тому +1

    Hey @ That Sim Racing Bloke,you had a valid point with the gutter drift but the one you were refering to was seen in initial D 4rh stage but takumi never gooked his wheel in the gutter.He had his wheel floating over it for the fastest line and he did this by having the weight of the car focus to the rear suspension to allow the front wheel to stay afloat over the deep gutter.

  • @linkskywalker5417
    @linkskywalker5417 7 місяців тому +2

    4:55 There are people out there who hate when anime is called a cartoon, even though animes are cartoons.
    Also, do you watch anime?

  • @PvrpleGames
    @PvrpleGames 4 місяці тому

    to be fair, the drainage ditch trick was typically used in hairpins and u-bends. for the 90 degree corner you were trying it on it wasn't really necessary since you could carry a lot of speed through it anyway.

  • @coconut_dr9194
    @coconut_dr9194 7 місяців тому +11

    Not all of these being skill issues

    • @tacticalreload
      @tacticalreload 7 місяців тому +1

      if u raced with tsrb youd know he would destroy everyone in these comments 😂

    • @coconut_dr9194
      @coconut_dr9194 3 місяці тому

      @@tacticalreload maybe but these are possiblr in beam and i have done them all

  • @AVeryNormalDude
    @AVeryNormalDude 4 місяці тому +1

    My three favorite things are in this video... Breakcore music, drifting and initial d

    • @AVeryNormalDude
      @AVeryNormalDude 4 місяці тому

      btw the song at in the background at the start is called "Windows breakcore" by proloxx

  • @carltownson3270
    @carltownson3270 11 днів тому

    This video is crazy you mixed the gutter run with the floating gutter technique. Shift locking is used when initiating a drift to shift the centre of balance in the same way a lift technique is used. To take weight off the rear.

  • @LaidbackMarco
    @LaidbackMarco 7 місяців тому +1

    Blind attack is doable you can drive without your headlights if the car in front of you has theirs on
    Wheel lift has nothing to do with using the gutter to rotate the car more it’s just about getting a tighter line
    You can see sports cars lift the inner front wheel with a stiff suspension
    There’s even videos of a guy doing a three wheel drift because he looses a tire

  • @kyototomokui6676
    @kyototomokui6676 6 місяців тому +1

    Sunburst went Beat Crazy on that open gutter

  • @athenovae
    @athenovae 2 місяці тому

    “Just like in the cartoon” You take that back rn 😭😂

  • @TheEmolano
    @TheEmolano Місяць тому

    The first one is actually used in rally IRL, it's called ditch hooking. I tried this in Dirt 3 and it was supper effective. I believe it can work on touge under certain circunstances.

  • @shadow-wyskey9796
    @shadow-wyskey9796 7 місяців тому +2

    My opinion about this video is, in initial d, they dont use stock cars, but btw, this video was so coll the edit, the.... I idk, good video

  • @initiald975
    @initiald975 7 місяців тому +1

    Blind attack is a risk that may or may not work, since your opponent doesn’t know where you are, causing a potential accident.

  • @JETZcorp
    @JETZcorp 4 місяці тому

    Yesterday I was doing a bit of touge IRL in a pickup truck on BFG all-terrains and long-travel Bilsteins. The understeer was so frustrating, but the inside soft shoulder was calling to me. Went for it. Smooth as glass. Hmmm... After some experimentation, I found I could take some seriously bold cuts. Further, giving it a boot full of V8 while dipped off-road at the apex got the diff to generate some real rotation and dial out some of that understeer.
    I an Truckumi Fujiwara! Fear me!

  • @jamesgriffin7351
    @jamesgriffin7351 4 місяці тому

    He forgot to try one very important technique from Inital D. Performing a high speed four wheel drift while having your eyes closed and lighting a cigarette!😂

  • @haidaeyMage
    @haidaeyMage 6 місяців тому +4

    3:36 what do you mean??.. you didn't sell tofu .. what do you know you're just bad driver bruh..

  • @calebrickard3294
    @calebrickard3294 6 місяців тому +2

    The problem you are havi g with teh inner wheel lift is you are using it to turn thr corner like a gutter run, and theres a wall in your way, the inner wheel lift was used to take the inside of the turn past the boundaries of the road and go onto the grass on the other side of the open gutter giving him just enough room to pass the miata

  • @TorutheRedFox
    @TorutheRedFox 4 місяці тому

    the gutter technique would probably be a lot more doable with a higher poly scan of mt. haruna where the cross-section of the gutter isn't a literal square

  • @RandomGuy-xw7mx
    @RandomGuy-xw7mx 6 місяців тому +2

    6:34 not the ae86 missing textures 💀

  • @UMUTAYD-ro1li
    @UMUTAYD-ro1li 6 місяців тому +1

    Blind attack can work really nice if you do it right.

  • @BakaMangaka
    @BakaMangaka 4 місяці тому

    7:05 so is that also the case for when you're going at high speeds then hit a downshift+revmatch which maintains the speed but at a lower gear with higher torque?

  • @VestedUTuber
    @VestedUTuber Місяць тому

    Ok, Irohazaka jump... I've done this in BeamNG myself. It's not faster because you have to spend more time accelerating, but it lets you stick your nose in front of an opponent in a head-to-head race which forces them to slow down as well. Rally suspension isn't necessary. Getting the angle right _is._

  • @closedcasketcustoms
    @closedcasketcustoms 7 місяців тому +12

    The inner wheel technique is huge in rally racing. Every good rally driver talks about how helpful this is on gravel and tarmac when drifting corners. "Shift lock" is meant to be done on the brakes, unweighting the rear to the point they lose grip enough NOT to over-rev the engine. Again, this is huge in rally racing on both tarmac and more so on gravel and I use this all the time on supermoto. The supermoto slide baby. There's a proper way to do it without damaging anything. A lot of it requires weight transfer and making sure once you lose traction that you keep traction lost.

  • @pistonfury
    @pistonfury 5 місяців тому +1

    My Bloke!!!! It's not just put your wheel over the gutter... did you not hear Ryosuke saying "side effect is he will turn at the ultimate speed!!" how he is able to do this is.. perfect throttle level to transfer ALL the weight rear so that the front inside wheel is not dipping into the gutter. lol no you don't want stiffness... stiffness is for when you're able to open the throttle like a Ninja... the softer the rear end, the easier.

  • @vanlalchhantluanga6070
    @vanlalchhantluanga6070 4 місяці тому +1

    The drain is too deep unlike the anime

  • @blisscottii
    @blisscottii 7 місяців тому +2

    they explain in the show the way to inner wheel lift requires high rpm to keep the load at the rear and outside tire

  • @b.mccord9242
    @b.mccord9242 7 місяців тому +2

    You gonna say denied because you're using some 200HP car

  • @freddymaykolmartinvasallo7588
    @freddymaykolmartinvasallo7588 6 місяців тому +1

    Nah, you're wrong, all of the them work good

  • @afcreative22
    @afcreative22 3 місяці тому +1

    Funny enough someone actually used a blind attack in a real race this year

  • @jacekatalakis8316
    @jacekatalakis8316 Місяць тому

    Tazio Nuvolari was stated to have pulled off the blind attack in the Mille Miglia in the 30s by running with his lights off and either setting the quickest time on the stage, or surprising his opponents when he went past them, that's the one that sprang to mind with the blind attack, I knew I'd read it somewhere, and realized it was Tazio who pulled it off, way before Initial D. Thanks, Ferrari book from 30 years ago give or take that pointed that one out

  • @CrypticRD2
    @CrypticRD2 6 місяців тому +4

    3:11 , no ya didnt..

  • @hammadbrohi8482
    @hammadbrohi8482 6 місяців тому +1

    Blind attack is actually a real life technique used by a driver in LeMans back in old days.

  • @Vuurlix
    @Vuurlix 3 місяці тому +1

    villager noise at 1:16

  • @wu1908
    @wu1908 Місяць тому

    i remember the lift technique was for crossing the gutter to get to the other side for more road width for over taking, The other gutter run is for shallower smaller gutters where u will drive like on rails and pop out of it without hitting the front bumper...

  • @LeitoAE
    @LeitoAE 4 місяці тому +1

    Car gest destroyed with traditional racing, even while normally driving as well as... Even when not being driven at all...
    I remember when I watched old episodes of AE86Club, where Tsichuya's AE86 was reworked multiple times including striping whole car to bare chassis to straighten the frame back to original parameters as well as welding to it multiple strengthening elements to withstand Tsychiya's driving.

  • @crisbyonyoutube2436
    @crisbyonyoutube2436 7 місяців тому +3

    Dude, it sounds like you've just got a skill issue lmao

    • @tacticalreload
      @tacticalreload 7 місяців тому

      i raced tsrb he solos everyone in the comments

  • @icookiebit8601
    @icookiebit8601 6 місяців тому

    the problem with wheel dipping is that not even beamng simulates the damage that is being done.
    1: the tirewall and wheels scrape against the rough gutter edge at high speed
    2: the steering and generally the geometry off the car isnt designed to be held from one of the front wheels alone, something would probably twist irl
    3: if you dont have enough momentum to lift the dipped wheel the car will take a slide right on the oil pan which is less then ideal (wrecks the oilpan, stresses the engine mounts, if its the case it will absolutely destroy the alternator belt and its a HUGE fire hazard if some wires get frayed or even worse a fuel line snags somewhere and pops apart)

  • @joshabooth
    @joshabooth 29 днів тому

    I drove on Irohazaka recently (i have a video on my channel and it's very, very slow). The first section where you do the jump in the manga/anime/game isn't possible anymore. They've extended the guardrail. The other sections are possible, but in real life the road isn't exactly a 6 foot drop. It's a high angle slope. If you did an early enough entry and managed to regain grip, you might be able to shoot forward with minimal damage to the car, but you'd lose speed from the early entry. When I drove it, I was in an RX8 Spirit R. Not the fastest car in the world but it had a decent ammount of acceleration. If you didn't really care about your car, you could probably get away with it.

  • @alexanderagostino1521
    @alexanderagostino1521 3 місяці тому

    Inner wheel lift isn't about gripping the inside of the road, it's about lifting the weight off that front inside tire and giving that grip to the other three wheels. Grip isn't coming from the inside wheel, that would be silly.

  • @dudocaine
    @dudocaine 7 місяців тому +4

    You're telling me a cartoon were an 80's corolla is able to keep with a GT-R and an RX-7 isn't realistic? Who would've thought.

    • @titantitties
      @titantitties 5 місяців тому

      Keiichi Tsuchiya would like a word with you

    • @spyman3000
      @spyman3000 3 місяці тому

      It is realistic and one of the best race car drivers on earth consulted on the way the races were written. This guy has no idea what he's talking about.

    • @fortniteman227
      @fortniteman227 2 місяці тому

      @@spyman3000 no its technically realistic in that the techniques are accurate but alot of them arent practical

    • @spyman3000
      @spyman3000 2 місяці тому

      @@fortniteman227 Most of them are absolutely practical. This video was just made by someone who doesn't know much about cars.

  • @Bims-t5b
    @Bims-t5b 5 місяців тому +1

    I assure you shiftlock will not destroy your engine “the first time you try it”

  • @pekonipilvi116
    @pekonipilvi116 5 місяців тому +1

    funnily enough most touge techs shown in initial D are situational...not nessesarily faster for each speedattack run but in 1vs1 race...for example gutter lift can easily give u little bit of extra depth when slow in fast out wont allowe passing in most corners...thats why its done in one corner in specified places ..especially when u race someone side by side with similiar power and handling vehicle... that corner jump is also doable but it also adds heavy load to suspension and tires so its pretty much only viable if u can surprise someone with it and someone breaks way too soon on that narrow road so u have time to get into position fast enough

  • @amethystyeong7244
    @amethystyeong7244 7 місяців тому +2

    Yo, did you forget what corner was the irohazaka jump?