While Ledger's performance was on another level, Aaron Eckhart's portrayal of Harvey Dent (two face) is criminally underrated and certainly doesn't get the credit it deserves. He absolutely nailed the role of tragic hero to near perfection in this movie.
THANK YOU! He was terrifying as Harvey Two Face Dent! When he was in the hospital bed and yelled "RACHEL"! I was sold! It was definitely underrated because of how good Heath Ledger was. Aaron is an incredible actor!
The scriptwriters did a great job of showing the rage within Harvey beforehand too, the "You can't give in!' is almost a mirror of Joker's 'Look at me!' from the newscast.
Loved it when you asked "what Jokers Motive is" and you get the Alfred line later "Some men just want to watch the world burn" Such brilliant film making from Nolan
@@raifthemadthat's very true but sometimes no matter how good their lifes are theirs sumtimes a "itch" they have. Not to mention if you never had any setbacks in life later on wen it does happen you dont have the copeing skills 2 deal
Word. Though, I think Jack Nicholson' Joker portrayal was far scarier. With Heath's version, he does make some sense why he does what he does. With Jack's, it's totally and utterly random. 1000x more horrifying and diabolical IMO.
@ricardorgomez nah, I disagree with Heath ledger hus joker was suppose to be an embodiment of chaos because that's what joker is supposed to be an agent of chaos
"I believe what doesn't kill you simply makes you, *stranger* ". Chills everytime at that reveal and the change in sound uptake to make his voice sound much more dark and powerful at that word.
Another great one is "In their last moments... people show you who they truly are." And when Batman throws Joker off of the building but before Batman catches him with the Grapnel hook, Joker falls to what he believes is his death laughing like a madman.
@@poxii7369 if you meant the "makes you stranger" line I think it means to deconstruct the "whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger" saying. It means basically that yeah, things that don't kill you can fuck you up as a person. Like a soldier surviving a war but struggling for the rest of their lives because of PTSD.
@@poxii7369 it is! But I also think there are a lot of truth to it. Sometimes it can be more harmful to "hide" from difficult things with "ah, it'll make me stronger". Rather than dealing with actual damage and trauma. While obviously "evil", the joker does have a ton of well made points. He's less of a chaotic, evil villain and more of an ideological terrorist in my opinion.
I love seeing people watch this one for the first time. I’m a lifelong Batman fan and this is such an incredible adaptation of these characters. For me, watching this movie for the first time was just incredible. It ranks up there with the best of the Bat comics and had me floored. Seeing other people that may not be as familiar with the source material also be shaken by the power of this story and these incredible characters brings me so so so much joy. Really loved this reaction!
Inception reaction will just keep her looking to her left and keep asking questions. Do you really wanna see that? Just search for Inception reactions and you’ll get what you want.
I don't know if you do it on purpose or not, but the way you cut short your thoughts when something else happens on screen and distracts you is great to watch for some reason, really feels like you're paying attention. That and getting emotional without really trying to hide it makes for great viewing. Probably the most gratifying reaction content i've seen in a long time, keep it up ^^
I appreciate it, thank you! I try to Pat attention and talk through pauses but bc they are unpredictable, I pay attention and then finish my thought process so it doesn’t linger in the air too long ♥️
I mean it's just a movie at the end of the day, so it's definitely not worth you being afraid to talk or anything, it's just definitely much nicer to watch someone who doesn't miss much while reacting
Finally introduced to the Joker. This is a very different on the character that in many ways is still comic accurate but Heath puts his own spin on the character. Up until till this point there's been two main live action Joker those being Cesar Julio Romero from the 1960s Batman TV show and film who is much closer to the fun and campy Silver age Joker. Then we have Jack Nicholson who played the Joker in Tim Burton's 1989 Batman film that brought Batman back to the Gothic darkness on the big screen inspired by comics like The Killing Joke that released a year before. Burtons Batman was much more stylized, Gothic, and timeless a mix of darkness and the colourful madness of the Joker. Not live action but Mark Hamill as the Joker in Batman Animated Series (1992) a show heavily inspired visually by the Burton films but put it's own spin on everything by diving deeper into the timeless look and feel. Mark Hamill is credited as the best Joker in any media and has voiced the character for over 30 years now from the DCAU (DC Animated Universe) to the Arkham Video Games. DCAU is cool as it's all connected so we get to see characters like Joker show up in Superman's show teaming up with characters like Lex Luthor so it was like the MCU before the MCU was even a thing, same with the DC shared universe starting with Man of Steel. Yeah Rachel is a pretty disliked character. She's not even from the comics as well and there's been so many other amazing early love interests for Batman from the amazing Andrea Beaumont from Mask of the Phantasm (1993) to characters like Selina Kyle. Andrea Beaumont is the closet to Rachel in that she was an original character created for Mask of the Phantasm and acted as a young College friend of Bruce Wayne who then met years later.
@@crankfastle8138People don't watch early or world cinema these days. So, in this person's mind, yes, this is one of the best performances. Poor kid has never even heard of Tatsuya Nakadai.
@@Progger11 the sword of doom is actually one of my top 25 movies. I'm well aware of who he is. But nice generalization and assumption. I wish I was able to assume and shit on people for their opinion when I know next to nothing about them. Keep it up champ.
32:05 is such a funny meme by now but I feel like people genuinely don’t understand why Harvey didn’t recognize him. He’s heavily sedated, even without being under medication whenever we wake up from a nap it’s like we’re in a twilight zone lol. Still a funny ass meme, but it makes total sense.
I was lucky enough to watch this on opening night in the theaters. Heath Ledger was absolutely spellbinding as The Joker, especially during the investigation scene. Aaron Eckhart was incredible as well; most audiences knew he'd end up as Two Face eventually, but far fewer expected the raw intensity that he brought to the role.
The single greatest 'comic book' movie of all time. Still makes me cry seeing Ledger's acting in this. Because it's so good. One of my 5 movies I watch at least twice a year. You're great at this by the way. Very observant and thoughtful. Great work.
the party scene where The Joker interacts with Rachel was the first time Maggie Gyllenhaal saw Heath's makeup in person. That entire scene was unexpected and Heath started doing his lines to her without her knowing, and that entire scene is her real reaction to seeing him for the first time. He is my favorite actor of all time it makes me so sad every time i think about it.
I really enjoyed her reaction. She was spot on so many times and it’s so refreshing watching someone who really has no idea what’s coming next. Loved this.
@@JedHead77 lol seriously you think having a name badge on your costume during a film is really something special especially in light of her dad ODing on bills? People do that type of thing all the time & tell me how does it help the person being acknowledged? His daughter is already known as his daughter she's already known for his sudden death & her mother took her back to Australia because of that attention & mom even cut back on her own acting for that reason so what did putting a badge on a costume tell daughter Matilda she didn't already known? Especially what ultimately happens to dad? It was a pointless jester Heath & michelle both acknowledged Matilda & believe they were even still together at the time he died. I don't really see the big deal of a name badge. Don't forget he was Australian & they are known as the matilda's in sports. A male Kangaroo is also known as a Matilda so obvious he named his daughter after a name of things important time him. Its just a badge plenty of people & actors do similar things.
32:32 "it's crazy because he's....... he's like technically not wrong" Finally someone noticed that and actually listened to the meaning behind it. 100% sub worthy. When i noticed this after watching this the second time: "holy shi..... he is actually right!" And that for me, makes a movie so good, when the script has a deeper understanding.
Y’know you actually bring up a good point about the love triangle I never really considered before: there is a certain disassociation with Rachel (partly because it’s a different actress) but it also speaks to each of their state of minds. Rachel and Bruce may be childhood friends but (like you said) she barely knows him at all but feels an obligation toward him even though she has a much healthier relationship with Harvey. Bruce sees Rachel as his one chance at a normal life (mostly because of the speech Harvey made: Batman is searching for a way out) and he sees Harvey as a worthy successor. Meanwhile Harvey is the complete outsider to their relationship caught in the crossfire between his love for Rachel, his budding competition with Wayne, deep admiration for Batman, and being secretly targeted by Joker It is such a toxic dynamic for all parties involved, you know it’s destined to go up in flames. My point is how Bruce sees Rachel in his mind is vastly different to what we the audience see. She’s grown beyond him.
You actually bring up very good points about why this whole relationship with Bruce and Rachel (and Harvey) doesn't hit as hard due to us not getting to spend enough time with the characters falling in love and getting to see their relationship. It feels a little rushed. Also doesn't help that they changed the actress so that makes it a bit harder to connect with the character as deeply. But her death did shock me the first time I saw the film since I really didn't expect her to be the one to die.
When an unstoppable force meets an immovable object. Absolutely love that description. The writing for this movie was excellent , and this was a fantastic reaction 🙏
The last coin flip nobody ever speaks on the significance. It landed heads up not by chance but because BATMAN took action to save the boy causing it to land how it did. Not by chance like two face but by choice. “It’s not who we are underneath, it’s what we DO that defines us.”
One of the greatest comic book movies ever made. Stellar performances by Ledger, Eckhart and Bale. I still get chills when Joker is doing his slow laugh walking up on the mafia meeting. Just amazing. Looking forward to your reaction to Dark Knight Rises!
I’m absolutely convinced, although we really don’t know, that the detonators for the boats would have blown up their own boat, not the other one. Consider: 1. Joker deliberately gives Batman reversed directions for where Rachel & Harvey were. Batman thought he was racing to save Rachel, which is why he hesitates when he busts the door open & sees Harvey. 2. Clowns are hostages, doctors are “targets”. Joker loves subverting people’s expectations. Oh, and I agree with all the love in the comments for all the memorable quotable lines, “You either die a hero…” etc, but I think the way he says (growls) “Look at me!” 13:19 - absolutely bone-chilling. Great reaction as usual, Stef!
Your reactions are great, you don't talk over important scenes and you always have great insight. Plus that smile is contagious. You're doing it right. Thank you! New sub for sure!
Ledger famously locked himself away in a hotel room and maintained a diary to prepare for the role. He told Empire in a 2007 interview, “It’s a combination of reading all the comic books I could that were relevant to the script and then just closing my eyes and meditating on it. I sat around in a hotel room in London for about a month, locked myself away, formed a little diary and experimented with voices - it was important to try to find a somewhat iconic voice and laugh. He ended up landing more in the realm of a psychopath - someone with very little to no conscience towards his acts. Glimpses of the little journal showed images of hyenas, pictures of the character Alex DeLarge from the film A Clockwork Orange, and also handwritten dialogue. The final page of the diary had the words ‘bye bye’ written in large letters. He never broke character on set
This stuff isn’t true, by the way. He had a ball on set, and was laughing and joking with people when the cameras were off. It makes a great story all this dark character stuff, but that’s just NOT how filming movies works. 😂 You go from bawling your eyes out over your dead mother on camera, then 5 minutes later you’re at the craft table having a tuna sandwich and taking phone calls. 😂
@@scubasteve2189exactly lol, he was a method actor yes but he didn’t go full “method” like you see people like Jerod Leto do. He was very kind and caring to everyone on set, he also made sure everyone was okay etc. he didn’t get lost in the character. What he did was play scenes out until the end, as you saw in the hospital scene and didn’t stop until he heard the word cut and it created magic with everyone involved. Did he prepare a lot for this film yes, but that’s because he knew how iconic this character was and wanted to do it the best he possibly could which is what he did. Now as for the myth, he already had a lot of sleeping problems and issues before this role, and was struggling a lot with sleep which is sad. Especially with how out of proportion media went with that and this role.
i watched this movie in theaters back in high school when it came out and it blew my mind, especially watching that amazing performance by heath ledger. This movie is in my top 5 it was great seeing the look on your face just really intrigued and loving this movie as a huge movie fan that brings me joy.
The Dark Knight is a favourite. I love the Joker's character. He's right about people, order and society (aspecially with contemporary society in the real world since DN) and I love the theory he is a war veteran that was abandoned by the state when he was on duty, and that's why he's fearless, traumatized, hates authority and is familiar with tactics, planning, guns and explosives and knows about torture tactics in the interview room. He's the only villain you wish would win /escape because he's more relatable than the hero, and it's a shame we never got follow up Joker movies out of Heath.
I'm old enough to have watched Batman since the original TV series. So I've seen a lot of portrayals of the joker. But this is my favorite portrayal of the villain. The only other one that comes close, is animated movie Ghost of the Phantasm. Which in my opinion portrays joker the most accurate.
Thank you, Stef, for sharing your reaction to "The Dark Knight." Michael Jai White(Gambol- "Enough from the clown!") starred in his own comic book movie, "Spawn."
I remember going to see this movie in theaters and to this exact day, every single time I hear Joker's first couple lines I get goosebumps. The, "Whatever doesn't kill you simply makes you, stranger." I still can feel the bass rumble throughout my body when he said that in the theater. It immediately set the tone of this movie and I was so for it!
You know...i watched all 3 movies ONCE and then did a repeat viewing, like 10 years later. Of the two, I VAGUELY remember 1 and 3, but recalled nearly ALL the details for #2.
When joker shows up at the party it is the first time that the actress who played Alfred and Rachel seen him in full costume, so the look she has when looking at him is genuine. Also the scene where joker is clapping in the cell was also improvised by Ledger and fit so well they kept it in the movie
Loved this trilogy so much! Definitely my favourite representation of the Batman story. Acting was also incredible. So good that I started a whole Batman inspired sleeve starting with heath ledger’s joker. Bane is next, then cat women & Batman haha
I've probably watched this movie about ten times all the way through as well as a few reactions to it and I've NEVER not gotten goose bumps at the end lol.
Hola Stefi, me encantó esa deducción sobre la caida del Joker riendo, como que por fin pudo corromper a Batman. En mi opinión, el Joker no sólo quiere que Batman viva porque quiere corromperlo, sino porque es su némesis, su "compañero", el Joker surge casi al mismo tiempo que surge Batman, Alfa y Omega, Luz y Oscuridad, quiere enfrentarse a Batman por deporte: "Tú eres la otra parte de mí" , "...Podríamos hacer esto eternamente." 2 frases de la película que explican que pasa por la cabeza del Joker. Me estoy conviertiendo en Fan de tus reacciones. Como apasionado del cine y futuro director/guionista, encontré una señorita que aprecia el buen arte. Saludos!
I love hearing your thoughts after the movie. It's totally good. You're right, Joker did win cause he corrupted Harvey. But then Batman ultimately won cause he's willing to sacrifice his reputation to save Harvey's. The Joker and Batman are perfect for each other. Also ya not a fan of Rachel, leading on both Harvey and Bruce
@@boboboy8189 Spoilers man. Yes I know what happens, but she might not. Although she probably watched it on Patreon already. I was talking this movie only.
Everytime I watch this movie, I wonder how the story would have continued in the next movie. Heath makes me forget, he’s acting. I just the the Joker. That is very rare. Thanks for sharing your first time journey with this movie.
Don't stop yourself from talking at the end. Keep going! We are here to hear your thoughts, and you have incredible insight. Hope to hear more of what you have to say. Too many reaction channels are just people's faces smiling or frowning. We come to hear what you have to say. We appreciate that you have intelligent things to say, so don't stop yourself at the end 😊
You really nailed the comparison Batman and Joker and their relationship with each other, and Joker trying to corrupt him. If you wanna see what happens when he does, look up the Batman Who Laughs. Chilling stuff.
As far as Rachel goes, I think changing actresses definitely hurt the immersiveness. They didn't want to change, but Katie Holmes had scheduling conflicts and couldn't do the movie. I also think they could have shown more positive flashbacks between Bruce and Rachel to develop that better. But all in all, a minor thing in these masterpieces
Harvey Dent aka 'Two-face' is a major Batman villain in the comics... In the comics, Harvey Dent was a prosecutor in Gotham City who was an ally of Batman against organized crime. An attempt on Harvey's life disfigured him permanently... and his psyche deteriorated into madness. He decided that chance would decide his fate and since he was half-evil, he scarred 1 side of a 2-headed coin and flipped it to decide which path he would take... and the scarred side won out. Everything he decides is w/ the flip of his coin... Tommy Lee Jones did a comical version of Two-Face in 'Batman Forever'... but Aaron Eckhart's Two-Face was truly insidious.
Hi -- i think you are pretty accurate about the Wayne/Rachel relationship... it is quite possible if Maggie Gyllenhaal (The Dark Knight) was in Batman Begins... you may have cared more about the relationship. Batman Begins is the movie that explains the relationship; the backstory. In my opinion, I think Maggie Gyllenhaal would have done a better job...... it may interest you to know that Katie Holmes (Batman Begins) did not work well with Christian Bale. In fact, i think Holmes may have had some personal issues that Bale did not want to get involved with....as a result Holmes attached herself to Tom Cruise and get involved in a relationship.... so i think there was no chemistry b/w Holmes & Bale b/c they did not perosnally like each other and struggled to work together.
Hero is only a good as Villains they encounter. A great villain doesn't just steal the scenes but also elevates hero better. That's why Joker is one my fave Batman villains. One I really do Appreciate Nolan's work, that he uses as much practical effects as possible. Flipping a semi, let's do it real. Others would do it with CGI. Nolan's attitude to use practical effects in world of CGI is really something worth of a praise.
On Ledgers request. Bale is actually punching him. Makes it so real, what makes it demented is how he stays in character after getting punched and laughs his guts out.. Dude nailed it.
No he’s not. 😂 God, you guys will seriously believe anything, huh? This whole dark edgelord Heath who got sucked into his role is hilarious. He was an actor on a set. He was having fun and joking around when the cameras were off. It’s called ACTING! He also had troubles in his personal life, and it’s tragic. But the role is not what did it. 🙄🤦🏻♂️
Every time i see this film it breaks my heart so much that Heath is gone. He was a tremendous actor and i'm sure he had even more brilliant performances in him had he lived.
16:35: The general backstory of Alfred is that he was a British soldier and Special Operations Executive - think SAS, Green Beret, etc ... - and he would have seen the worst of the worst of humanity in various warfare, including guerrilla-style jungle fighting and tactics. He knows insanity, and a careless nonchalance towards material goods (like money) when he sees it.
While I was watching your reaction I typed up a comment about the Rachel and Batman (and Dent) relationships and how it's impossible to care about it when we haven't really been shown anything. Hard to care about things you have no investment in. But you covered it very well so... Great commentary to this great movie. Thanks, Stef. 🤗
Heath Ledger carries this whole movie for me as someone who's got a love, mixed relationship with the Christopher Nolan movies. I personally still prefer Batman Begins as that film nailed the Art direction of Gotham City from architecture, The Narrows, tone, and overall focus of the film with Gotham City being as most of a character as Batman. Also preferred Bale as Batman in Begins, for me his Batman gets worse the more the films go on but he nails Bruce Wayne throughout all the films. I just never liked how Nolan striped alot of the personality away from Gotham and Batman to make it more grounded. idea that this is how Batman would be like in the real world. We kind of ended up with a Gotham City that looks like Chicago and a film that feels less like a Batman film and more like a crime drama with Batman in it. Still a great film though I just prefer Batman Begins and The Batman. Also felt that Two face was pretty wasted so idk. Respect Nolan for bringing Batman back into the mainstream with these films but at the same time he kind of made it difficult for those people to get into other Batman media as it's just much more outlandish, wild and stylised compared to the Nolan films.
@@2wyt160 Yet they still felt like Batman media. My point is The Dark Knight loses alot of the personality and feel of the Batman Universe when they removed alot of the art direction of Gotham City along with the tone as well. So it feels more like a crime Drama with Batman in it rather than a Batman film with crime drama elements. Batman Begins felt more like a Batman film than The Dark Knight but it doesn't make it a bad film. I just prefer Batman Begins as a Batman film but I do still believe that The Dark Knight is a great film.
Agree, Nolans idea of Gotham being any City was something alot of people disliked. Gotham has its own history, landmarks, and architectural designs so removing all of this makes no sense. It really does feel like a film set in Chicago with Batman in it lol like an episode of a crime show where Joker has travelled to Chicago and Batman arrived to help the Chicago Police Department.
The Joker is the ultimate agent of chaos, it is impossible to water down or define his motives or reasons to one simple thing.. he wants to disrupt and to destabilize, he wants to point a mirror onto the face of society and expose all of its flaws and hypocrisies. Batman fights for the soul of Gotham and and the good in its people, the Joker is the antithesis of this and wants to show that Gotham and its people are not worth saving, to prove Batmans cause is nothing more than a bad joke.
Good observation about Rachel and her lack of impact. That could be an issue. But one problem I had with the film which was probably my only issue is I never bought Dent's fall which seemed too fast, too hard, and unearned. If Rachel was pregnant. And/or he became addicted to opioids which would make sense to dull the pain from his injury, then I think I would've believed his character's turn. The combination of both the trauma of loss/injustice and a chemical dependency would've made much more sense to me as an explanation of his transformation.
The coolest thing about both movies is in Joker, you don't really know Arther's age and he would have been pretty old by the time The Dark Knight but I think both movies could line up well but the only thing that doesn't line up well is what was Joker doing from childhood until The Dark Knight because you would assume Joker would have continually caused havoc and should have already been known BUT they are still great movies
Would you believe that the internet hated Heath Ledger for being cast as the joker? No one believed that the rom-com actor that was in Brokeback Mountain could play that character, but he proved them all wrong.
I agree with you about Rachel and no development between Bruce and Harvey. That was my only complaint about Christopher Nolan’s script but everything else in the movie was brilliant.
As for the Bruce, Rachel, Dent thing. I can see your point about the lack of chemistry etc. I think it's because of the recast of Rachel in this movie. Perhaps others here know the details.
I still can't fathom how Heath Ledger and the Joker is the same person even after all these years. Heath was very shy by nature and you can see in interviews especially his last ones how anxious he was with the attention, he was a kind man with a gentle soul. Just look at the young heartthrob in A Knights Tale and imagine that handsome guy as that psychopath. This is what acting is all about and I can see why he is Joaquin Phoenix's favorite actor.
Right?! The first time i was taken aback was when he did Brokeback mountain. I was like "....is this really the guy from knight's take? 10 things? THIS GUY?" His acting was fucking crazy and i actually forgot it was him as the movie went on. He shattered the prettyboy image in that role. Even the studio thought he wasn't 'macho' enough for brokeback. But he was, and he was intimdiating af as well. The fight scenes were savage, and the part where he threatens to punch his ex-wife was so fucking terrifying. it still gives me chills. And he is also one of Daniel Day Lewis' fave actor. He said how Heath was so perfect and unique in brokeback and how it was the best and moving performances he's ever seen. Heath was such a dope person, really down to earth in real life. Yeah, he was humble, quiet in interviews. He also had strong feelings about discrimation. He defended the hell out of brokeback mountain. He wouldn't let his friends joke about the relationship. And he refused to perform at the oscars because of the immature brokeback joke. So ahead of his time. Still one of the celebrities i'll always mourn. And it's sad that we never got to see a movie he directed. Being a film director was one of his biggest dreams.
Loved your reaction😊...if your into more batman stuff then Mask Of The Phantasm is a must watch but its an animation if thats your thing..looking forward to the next
It's hard to believe when they said who was going to play the Joker in this movie people were pissed off they thought it was a horrible idea cuz he was more known for playing romantic comedies and we were wrong he did an amazing job
I always thought the Joker was laughing as he falls to his death was because he was just plain crazy. I never realised that he was laughing cos he thought he managed to corrupt batman till you mentioned it. Also, it is ironic that harvey is branded as the white knight while batman is the dark knight when its actually the opposite
Heath Ledger passed away just after this movie..& it was SHOCKING & The really TRAGIC thing is... JOKER'S line to Batman " you & I are destined to do this forever" was in the movie for a reason... Because this is was exactly what was PLANNED to happen in the third movie by the director Nolan Joker was initially going to be in the third movie... ,But then Heath Ledger shockingly died! NO ONE saw that coming, the director never expected Heath to die, nor the co-writer, nor the crew... no one did & So after his death, The entire plan for the third movie was FORCIBLY changed with it NOT involving Joker at all(contradicting The line Joker said in The Dark Knight) & logically they didn't get anyone else to play Joker because no one could replicate what Heath SPECIFICALLY did with the character..he OWNED it & made a MASSIVE fanbase. The third movie took a radically different direction after his death.
21:53 Some people seem to not be able to look at things from Rachel's perspective whatsoever and I don't know if Nolan is to blame, or the inherently misogynistic audiences never even trying with her.
Or maybe there just wasn't a connection with a character. Their relationship after kids was difficult to follow along and she wanted the old Bruce even though he had his own trauma and experiences that changed him as a man overall for 7 years. I'm not going to sit here and try to explain it as if you're a child, i'm sure you are smarter than that and can step out of your own feelings. If it helps, i'm sure you can read about people's opinion if you're open to do so because they are all quite similar. "like what are you even saying lmao??" Step out into the world of opinions and non-judgmental commentary. I would be more open to discussing it if you didn't sound so close-minded with these comments.
@@iamjuststef If you want to talk about "close mindedness" then perhaps don't inherently hate on the only female character in the movie lmao. Nolan is obviously to blame first bc every single movie of his follows a male lead and the women are afterthoughts or simply there to elevate the male characters but you also failed to understand Rachel completely too. This movie isn't concerned with developing Rachel and Bruce's relationship bc we already know where they stand and who they are. We know Bruce is holding on to Rachel as his only hope for a normal life away from the mask and the cape but that's obviously not a good thing. Joker immediately notices how the Batman throws himself after Rachel and sees that there's something more personal there so he goes after her. The main "relationship" here is with Rachel and Harvey who are perfectly developed considering they had to flesh out their relationship within basically half a movie. Anyway sorry for writing a novel here.
I don't know if the other commenters remember this or not, but when this movie released in 2008, there was a small and vocal group of people on the internet who hated this movie because it wasn't like Batman (1989), which I love as well. They even had their own website. Haha. Back in 2008, I remember thinking that their opinion would not age well, and now in 2023, this is still an amazing movie.
Ledger really embodied the character. Such an amazing performance. Ive always loved The Joker. Especially in Batman: The Animated Series. Voiced by Mark Hamil. I highly recommend it 👌.
One of the greatest movies I've ever watched, all the actors did a great job but let's be clear - as great as Joaquin Phoenix was as the Joker and of course all the others, no one will ever be able to beat Heath Ledgers Joker - that was perfection and a well deserved Oscar win, may he rest in peace Also, great reaction as always 🙂
Dvd bonus features include episodes of GOTHAM TONIGHT with the news anchor guy. There we learn that Batman had apprehended a mobster and that was "the hostile witness" in the courtroom scene.
While Ledger's performance was on another level, Aaron Eckhart's portrayal of Harvey Dent (two face) is criminally underrated and certainly doesn't get the credit it deserves. He absolutely nailed the role of tragic hero to near perfection in this movie.
SAY IT!
I mean Gary Oldman is also terrific in this, as is Christian Bale. They all had incredible performances, its just that Heath Ledger outshone them
@@MrGaleanonSHAY ITT!
THANK YOU! He was terrifying as Harvey Two Face Dent! When he was in the hospital bed and yelled "RACHEL"! I was sold! It was definitely underrated because of how good Heath Ledger was. Aaron is an incredible actor!
The scriptwriters did a great job of showing the rage within Harvey beforehand too, the "You can't give in!' is almost a mirror of Joker's 'Look at me!' from the newscast.
Loved it when you asked "what Jokers Motive is" and you get the Alfred line later "Some men just want to watch the world burn" Such brilliant film making from Nolan
Essentially this.
“A child that is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth”
― African Proverb
real
@@raifthemadthat's very true but sometimes no matter how good their lifes are theirs sumtimes a "itch" they have. Not to mention if you never had any setbacks in life later on wen it does happen you dont have the copeing skills 2 deal
Word. Though, I think Jack Nicholson' Joker portrayal was far scarier. With Heath's version, he does make some sense why he does what he does. With Jack's, it's totally and utterly random. 1000x more horrifying and diabolical IMO.
@ricardorgomez nah, I disagree with Heath ledger hus joker was suppose to be an embodiment of chaos because that's what joker is supposed to be an agent of chaos
" You either die hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become a villain."
Coolest line🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yesss!
And then he did exactly that.
@@iamjuststefwow!
I've forgotten. Is this the movie where that line was created? Or is it an "oldie"?
@@MrZeuz666 I think the quote is originally from this movie
This is my fav movie ever. Heat's performance was just perfect. Absolutely amazing
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"I believe what doesn't kill you simply makes you, *stranger* ". Chills everytime at that reveal and the change in sound uptake to make his voice sound much more dark and powerful at that word.
Another great one is "In their last moments... people show you who they truly are." And when Batman throws Joker off of the building but before Batman catches him with the Grapnel hook, Joker falls to what he believes is his death laughing like a madman.
What does he mean by that line?
@@poxii7369 if you meant the "makes you stranger" line I think it means to deconstruct the "whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger" saying.
It means basically that yeah, things that don't kill you can fuck you up as a person. Like a soldier surviving a war but struggling for the rest of their lives because of PTSD.
@@Kaspisify Ah okay, pretty dark but I mean it fits the joker. But anyways thank you.
@@poxii7369 it is! But I also think there are a lot of truth to it. Sometimes it can be more harmful to "hide" from difficult things with "ah, it'll make me stronger". Rather than dealing with actual damage and trauma.
While obviously "evil", the joker does have a ton of well made points. He's less of a chaotic, evil villain and more of an ideological terrorist in my opinion.
I love seeing people watch this one for the first time. I’m a lifelong Batman fan and this is such an incredible adaptation of these characters.
For me, watching this movie for the first time was just incredible. It ranks up there with the best of the Bat comics and had me floored.
Seeing other people that may not be as familiar with the source material also be shaken by the power of this story and these incredible characters brings me so so so much joy.
Really loved this reaction!
Stay with Christopher Nolan,Hans Zimmer, you won’t be disappointed !😊
INCEPTION REACTION!!
Inception reaction will just keep her looking to her left and keep asking questions. Do you really wanna see that? Just search for Inception reactions and you’ll get what you want.
@@faisalmemon285 I've seen a lot of Inception reactions and I'm undoubtedly looking forward to her own reaction
The goat duo
Prestige is one of his best as well, please watch that!
Your breakdown for the way Batman and the Joker "need" each other was great! Loving your reactions, thank you!!
I don't know if you do it on purpose or not, but the way you cut short your thoughts when something else happens on screen and distracts you is great to watch for some reason, really feels like you're paying attention. That and getting emotional without really trying to hide it makes for great viewing. Probably the most gratifying reaction content i've seen in a long time, keep it up ^^
I appreciate it, thank you! I try to Pat attention and talk through pauses but bc they are unpredictable, I pay attention and then finish my thought process so it doesn’t linger in the air too long ♥️
I agree. A lot of reactors just ramble incessantly, go off on tangents, and lose focus on what's going on in the film.
I mean it's just a movie at the end of the day, so it's definitely not worth you being afraid to talk or anything, it's just definitely much nicer to watch someone who doesn't miss much while reacting
yes, THIS.
It really reminds me of myself, I can rarely get a thought fully across while a movie's playing, I'll just get distracted by what's happening
Finally introduced to the Joker. This is a very different on the character that in many ways is still comic accurate but Heath puts his own spin on the character. Up until till this point there's been two main live action Joker those being Cesar Julio Romero from the 1960s Batman TV show and film who is much closer to the fun and campy Silver age Joker. Then we have Jack Nicholson who played the Joker in Tim Burton's 1989 Batman film that brought Batman back to the Gothic darkness on the big screen inspired by comics like The Killing Joke that released a year before. Burtons Batman was much more stylized, Gothic, and timeless a mix of darkness and the colourful madness of the Joker.
Not live action but Mark Hamill as the Joker in Batman Animated Series (1992) a show heavily inspired visually by the Burton films but put it's own spin on everything by diving deeper into the timeless look and feel. Mark Hamill is credited as the best Joker in any media and has voiced the character for over 30 years now from the DCAU (DC Animated Universe) to the Arkham Video Games. DCAU is cool as it's all connected so we get to see characters like Joker show up in Superman's show teaming up with characters like Lex Luthor so it was like the MCU before the MCU was even a thing, same with the DC shared universe starting with Man of Steel.
Yeah Rachel is a pretty disliked character. She's not even from the comics as well and there's been so many other amazing early love interests for Batman from the amazing Andrea Beaumont from Mask of the Phantasm (1993) to characters like Selina Kyle. Andrea Beaumont is the closet to Rachel in that she was an original character created for Mask of the Phantasm and acted as a young College friend of Bruce Wayne who then met years later.
One of the most impressive performances in the history of cinema. Flawless. God I miss Heath. What an actor. RIP
Good lord. Really?
@@crankfastle8138People don't watch early or world cinema these days. So, in this person's mind, yes, this is one of the best performances. Poor kid has never even heard of Tatsuya Nakadai.
@@Progger11 the sword of doom is actually one of my top 25 movies. I'm well aware of who he is. But nice generalization and assumption. I wish I was able to assume and shit on people for their opinion when I know next to nothing about them. Keep it up champ.
Lol calm down man. Is good, but not even close to most impressive... You nned to expand your filmography.
@@crankfastle8138 L
32:05 is such a funny meme by now but I feel like people genuinely don’t understand why Harvey didn’t recognize him. He’s heavily sedated, even without being under medication whenever we wake up from a nap it’s like we’re in a twilight zone lol. Still a funny ass meme, but it makes total sense.
He's gotta be thinking "am I tripping or is my nurse the Joker in drag"
@@chadjenkins4876 lmaoooo
I was lucky enough to watch this on opening night in the theaters. Heath Ledger was absolutely spellbinding as The Joker, especially during the investigation scene. Aaron Eckhart was incredible as well; most audiences knew he'd end up as Two Face eventually, but far fewer expected the raw intensity that he brought to the role.
Fun Fact: The Joker’s mask in the bank robbery scene is an homage to the first appearance of Cesar Romero’s Joker in the 1960s Batman TV show.
The single greatest 'comic book' movie of all time. Still makes me cry seeing Ledger's acting in this. Because it's so good. One of my 5 movies I watch at least twice a year. You're great at this by the way. Very observant and thoughtful. Great work.
This and ‘lords of dogtown’ where heath ledger plays skip engblom are my two favourites of his performances.
the party scene where The Joker interacts with Rachel was the first time Maggie Gyllenhaal saw Heath's makeup in person. That entire scene was unexpected and Heath started doing his lines to her without her knowing, and that entire scene is her real reaction to seeing him for the first time. He is my favorite actor of all time it makes me so sad every time i think about it.
WAS ... he died ... because his wife took the kids and left him - standard for US marriages - and this made him "overreact in sadness".
@@Muck006 just because he passed away doesn't change the fact he's my favorite actor. You're weird af lmfao
@Muck006 the hell are you on?
@@BlackSnoopi lmfao fr. What a loser
im really surprised at how she was silently crying during harvey and gordons family part. Ive never seen anyone with that reaction to it like that.
7:25 LOL! Loved your reaction. How did you not laugh at that? 😂😂
I really enjoyed her reaction. She was spot on so many times and it’s so refreshing watching someone who really has no idea what’s coming next. Loved this.
Fun Fact: The Joker’s name tag as a nurse is “Matilda”, Heath’s baby daughter at the time.
😭😭😭😭😭
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@@craighanson-rc1md I bet it means more to her NOW that he did that for her.
@@JedHead77 lol seriously you think having a name badge on your costume during a film is really something special especially in light of her dad ODing on bills? People do that type of thing all the time & tell me how does it help the person being acknowledged? His daughter is already known as his daughter she's already known for his sudden death & her mother took her back to Australia because of that attention & mom even cut back on her own acting for that reason so what did putting a badge on a costume tell daughter Matilda she didn't already known? Especially what ultimately happens to dad? It was a pointless jester Heath & michelle both acknowledged Matilda & believe they were even still together at the time he died. I don't really see the big deal of a name badge. Don't forget he was Australian & they are known as the matilda's in sports. A male Kangaroo is also known as a Matilda so obvious he named his daughter after a name of things important time him. Its just a badge plenty of people & actors do similar things.
@@craighanson-rc1md Ever heard of paragraph breaks?
32:32 "it's crazy because he's....... he's like technically not wrong"
Finally someone noticed that and actually listened to the meaning behind it. 100% sub worthy. When i noticed this after watching this the second time: "holy shi..... he is actually right!" And that for me, makes a movie so good, when the script has a deeper understanding.
Heath Ledger, more than other actor I have seen in any other movie, is completely unrecognizable in this role. It's a chilling performance.
31:46 it’s more like “everything is…chaos” and that’s what Joker wants. This version of Joker is an “agent of chaos.” Spectacular movie!
Y’know you actually bring up a good point about the love triangle I never really considered before: there is a certain disassociation with Rachel (partly because it’s a different actress) but it also speaks to each of their state of minds.
Rachel and Bruce may be childhood friends but (like you said) she barely knows him at all but feels an obligation toward him even though she has a much healthier relationship with Harvey.
Bruce sees Rachel as his one chance at a normal life (mostly because of the speech Harvey made: Batman is searching for a way out) and he sees Harvey as a worthy successor.
Meanwhile Harvey is the complete outsider to their relationship caught in the crossfire between his love for Rachel, his budding competition with Wayne, deep admiration for Batman, and being secretly targeted by Joker
It is such a toxic dynamic for all parties involved, you know it’s destined to go up in flames.
My point is how Bruce sees Rachel in his mind is vastly different to what we the audience see. She’s grown beyond him.
You actually bring up very good points about why this whole relationship with Bruce and Rachel (and Harvey) doesn't hit as hard due to us not getting to spend enough time with the characters falling in love and getting to see their relationship. It feels a little rushed. Also doesn't help that they changed the actress so that makes it a bit harder to connect with the character as deeply. But her death did shock me the first time I saw the film since I really didn't expect her to be the one to die.
When an unstoppable force meets an immovable object. Absolutely love that description.
The writing for this movie was excellent , and this was a fantastic reaction 🙏
The fact that health ledger . Trained his voice to sound deep and switch to high pitch when he laughed. ... a true actor .... may he rest in peace.
The last coin flip nobody ever speaks on the significance. It landed heads up not by chance but because BATMAN took action to save the boy causing it to land how it did. Not by chance like two face but by choice. “It’s not who we are underneath, it’s what we DO that defines us.”
One of the greatest comic book movies ever made. Stellar performances by Ledger, Eckhart and Bale. I still get chills when Joker is doing his slow laugh walking up on the mafia meeting. Just amazing. Looking forward to your reaction to Dark Knight Rises!
Definitly THE greatest. Only one being remotely close is Logan
I’m absolutely convinced, although we really don’t know, that the detonators for the boats would have blown up their own boat, not the other one. Consider:
1. Joker deliberately gives Batman reversed directions for where Rachel & Harvey were. Batman thought he was racing to save Rachel, which is why he hesitates when he busts the door open & sees Harvey.
2. Clowns are hostages, doctors are “targets”.
Joker loves subverting people’s expectations.
Oh, and I agree with all the love in the comments for all the memorable quotable lines, “You either die a hero…” etc, but I think the way he says (growls) “Look at me!” 13:19 - absolutely bone-chilling.
Great reaction as usual, Stef!
Your reactions are great, you don't talk over important scenes and you always have great insight. Plus that smile is contagious. You're doing it right. Thank you! New sub for sure!
Appreciate it!! Thank You for being here and for the support!
I love your reactions, so genuine, so real, it's great to see all the emotions you go thru watching a movie, i truly enjoy watching your reactions.
Ledger famously locked himself away in a hotel room and maintained a diary to prepare for the role. He told Empire in a 2007 interview, “It’s a combination of reading all the comic books I could that were relevant to the script and then just closing my eyes and meditating on it. I sat around in a hotel room in London for about a month, locked myself away, formed a little diary and experimented with voices - it was important to try to find a somewhat iconic voice and laugh. He ended up landing more in the realm of a psychopath - someone with very little to no conscience towards his acts. Glimpses of the little journal showed images of hyenas, pictures of the character Alex DeLarge from the film A Clockwork Orange, and also handwritten dialogue. The final page of the diary had the words ‘bye bye’ written in large letters. He never broke character on set
Michael Jai White has said he did break character while on set. Heath put in a tremendous amount of effort, but youve got some details wrong there.
This stuff isn’t true, by the way. He had a ball on set, and was laughing and joking with people when the cameras were off. It makes a great story all this dark character stuff, but that’s just NOT how filming movies works. 😂 You go from bawling your eyes out over your dead mother on camera, then 5 minutes later you’re at the craft table having a tuna sandwich and taking phone calls. 😂
@@scubasteve2189exactly lol, he was a method actor yes but he didn’t go full “method” like you see people like Jerod Leto do. He was very kind and caring to everyone on set, he also made sure everyone was okay etc. he didn’t get lost in the character. What he did was play scenes out until the end, as you saw in the hospital scene and didn’t stop until he heard the word cut and it created magic with everyone involved. Did he prepare a lot for this film yes, but that’s because he knew how iconic this character was and wanted to do it the best he possibly could which is what he did.
Now as for the myth, he already had a lot of sleeping problems and issues before this role, and was struggling a lot with sleep which is sad. Especially with how out of proportion media went with that and this role.
17:00 check out this video
Film Theory: Joker Is The Hero of Gotham (Batman The Dark Knight)
Among all the other reactions i've seen...you're one of the fews who understood the dynamics between batman and joker...great job👌
genuine short and simple reaction im diggin it.
i watched this movie in theaters back in high school when it came out and it blew my mind, especially watching that amazing performance by heath ledger. This movie is in my top 5 it was great seeing the look on your face just really intrigued and loving this movie as a huge movie fan that brings me joy.
The Dark Knight is a favourite. I love the Joker's character. He's right about people, order and society (aspecially with contemporary society in the real world since DN) and I love the theory he is a war veteran that was abandoned by the state when he was on duty, and that's why he's fearless, traumatized, hates authority and is familiar with tactics, planning, guns and explosives and knows about torture tactics in the interview room. He's the only villain you wish would win /escape because he's more relatable than the hero, and it's a shame we never got follow up Joker movies out of Heath.
I'm old enough to have watched Batman since the original TV series. So I've seen a lot of portrayals of the joker. But this is my favorite portrayal of the villain. The only other one that comes close, is animated movie Ghost of the Phantasm. Which in my opinion portrays joker the most accurate.
Thank you, Stef, for sharing your reaction to "The Dark Knight." Michael Jai White(Gambol- "Enough from the clown!") starred in his own comic book movie, "Spawn."
I remember going to see this movie in theaters and to this exact day, every single time I hear Joker's first couple lines I get goosebumps. The, "Whatever doesn't kill you simply makes you, stranger."
I still can feel the bass rumble throughout my body when he said that in the theater. It immediately set the tone of this movie and I was so for it!
You know...i watched all 3 movies ONCE and then did a repeat viewing, like 10 years later. Of the two, I VAGUELY remember 1 and 3, but recalled nearly ALL the details for #2.
When joker shows up at the party it is the first time that the actress who played Alfred and Rachel seen him in full costume, so the look she has when looking at him is genuine.
Also the scene where joker is clapping in the cell was also improvised by Ledger and fit so well they kept it in the movie
Loved this trilogy so much! Definitely my favourite representation of the Batman story. Acting was also incredible. So good that I started a whole Batman inspired sleeve starting with heath ledger’s joker. Bane is next, then cat women & Batman haha
I've probably watched this movie about ten times all the way through as well as a few reactions to it and I've NEVER not gotten goose bumps at the end lol.
Hola Stefi, me encantó esa deducción sobre la caida del Joker riendo, como que por fin pudo corromper a Batman. En mi opinión, el Joker no sólo quiere que Batman viva porque quiere corromperlo, sino porque es su némesis, su "compañero", el Joker surge casi al mismo tiempo que surge Batman, Alfa y Omega, Luz y Oscuridad, quiere enfrentarse a Batman por deporte: "Tú eres la otra parte de mí" , "...Podríamos hacer esto eternamente." 2 frases de la película que explican que pasa por la cabeza del Joker.
Me estoy conviertiendo en Fan de tus reacciones. Como apasionado del cine y futuro director/guionista, encontré una señorita que aprecia el buen arte. Saludos!
I love hearing your thoughts after the movie. It's totally good. You're right, Joker did win cause he corrupted Harvey. But then Batman ultimately won cause he's willing to sacrifice his reputation to save Harvey's. The Joker and Batman are perfect for each other. Also ya not a fan of Rachel, leading on both Harvey and Bruce
In rises, bane told every one what happened
@@boboboy8189 Spoilers man. Yes I know what happens, but she might not. Although she probably watched it on Patreon already. I was talking this movie only.
Everytime I watch this movie, I wonder how the story would have continued in the next movie. Heath makes me forget, he’s acting. I just the the Joker. That is very rare. Thanks for sharing your first time journey with this movie.
The interrogation scene was the first scene Bale and Ledger filmed together, and Heath insisted he get hit for real!
Damn...look at her smile at the end of the movie...we all had the same reaction 😂😂😂.. Thats a perfect movie right there
That moment Ledgers Joker said 'Its gaming time Bats!' was truly a moment in all of cinema
When did he say that
@@Duality333 Right after batman told everyone that somehow the Joker returned.
@@mori1bund Damn straight
Damn genz Humor
@@gavinderulo12 Damn right lol
15:40 the actress saw the joker for the first time in that scene so she was genuinely fearful great touch
"Idk about Rachel, she's no Mary Jane" 😂 facts though
Batman not being able to turn his head is a trope of all the TV shows and movies.
Heath's Joker is phenomenal. I also really loved 2face in this movie.
39:40 Best part of this reaction
Heath Ledger's performance of the Joker is absolutely genius! 😁
Aaron Eckhart's portrayal of Two-Face is brilliant!
Don't stop yourself from talking at the end. Keep going! We are here to hear your thoughts, and you have incredible insight.
Hope to hear more of what you have to say. Too many reaction channels are just people's faces smiling or frowning. We come to hear what you have to say. We appreciate that you have intelligent things to say, so don't stop yourself at the end 😊
Those ending scenes with the music and the monologue gives me chill every damn time. What a masterpiece
Well done. Such a great reaction. I'm also glad you seem to catch on to the story faster than anticipated.
You really nailed the comparison Batman and Joker and their relationship with each other, and Joker trying to corrupt him. If you wanna see what happens when he does, look up the Batman Who Laughs. Chilling stuff.
As far as Rachel goes, I think changing actresses definitely hurt the immersiveness. They didn't want to change, but Katie Holmes had scheduling conflicts and couldn't do the movie. I also think they could have shown more positive flashbacks between Bruce and Rachel to develop that better. But all in all, a minor thing in these masterpieces
Maggie Gyllenhaal was also a very strange choice of replacement.
Lol, she didn't have scheduling conflicts, that is just an excuse. Tom Cruise(her husband at the time) didn't want her to do the film
Honestly, Maggie was the better choice. She brought more to the character.
Harvey Dent aka 'Two-face' is a major Batman villain in the comics... In the comics, Harvey Dent was a prosecutor in Gotham City who was an ally of Batman against organized crime. An attempt on Harvey's life disfigured him permanently... and his psyche deteriorated into madness. He decided that chance would decide his fate and since he was half-evil, he scarred 1 side of a 2-headed coin and flipped it to decide which path he would take... and the scarred side won out. Everything he decides is w/ the flip of his coin... Tommy Lee Jones did a comical version of Two-Face in 'Batman Forever'... but Aaron Eckhart's Two-Face was truly insidious.
34:51 Trivia: a lot of the film was done in NYC, and that’s the Staten Island Ferry in NY-- Staten Island being one of the 5 boroughs of NYC.
@41:30 That smile at the end said it all!! This is a great movie! A great trilogy!!!
Hi -- i think you are pretty accurate about the Wayne/Rachel relationship... it is quite possible if Maggie Gyllenhaal (The Dark Knight) was in Batman Begins... you may have cared more about the relationship. Batman Begins is the movie that explains the relationship; the backstory. In my opinion, I think Maggie Gyllenhaal would have done a better job...... it may interest you to know that Katie Holmes (Batman Begins) did not work well with Christian Bale. In fact, i think Holmes may have had some personal issues that Bale did not want to get involved with....as a result Holmes attached herself to Tom Cruise and get involved in a relationship.... so i think there was no chemistry b/w Holmes & Bale b/c they did not perosnally like each other and struggled to work together.
Hero is only a good as Villains they encounter. A great villain doesn't just steal the scenes but also elevates hero better. That's why Joker is one my fave Batman villains. One I really do Appreciate Nolan's work, that he uses as much practical effects as possible. Flipping a semi, let's do it real. Others would do it with CGI. Nolan's attitude to use practical effects in world of CGI is really something worth of a praise.
While I grew up on the Tim Burton Batman movies, I absolutely love Nolan's interpretation on the franchise.
On Ledgers request. Bale is actually punching him. Makes it so real, what makes it demented is how he stays in character after getting punched and laughs his guts out.. Dude nailed it.
No he’s not. 😂 God, you guys will seriously believe anything, huh? This whole dark edgelord Heath who got sucked into his role is hilarious. He was an actor on a set. He was having fun and joking around when the cameras were off. It’s called ACTING! He also had troubles in his personal life, and it’s tragic. But the role is not what did it. 🙄🤦🏻♂️
@@scubasteve2189 thanks for agreeing with me 😀
Every time i see this film it breaks my heart so much that Heath is gone. He was a tremendous actor and i'm sure he had even more brilliant performances in him had he lived.
16:35: The general backstory of Alfred is that he was a British soldier and Special Operations Executive - think SAS, Green Beret, etc ... - and he would have seen the worst of the worst of humanity in various warfare, including guerrilla-style jungle fighting and tactics.
He knows insanity, and a careless nonchalance towards material goods (like money) when he sees it.
Great reaction. Love all of these Batmans and all of Nolan’s stuff.
While I was watching your reaction I typed up a comment about the Rachel and Batman (and Dent) relationships and how it's impossible to care about it when we haven't really been shown anything. Hard to care about things you have no investment in. But you covered it very well so...
Great commentary to this great movie. Thanks, Stef. 🤗
Heath Ledger carries this whole movie for me as someone who's got a love, mixed relationship with the Christopher Nolan movies. I personally still prefer Batman Begins as that film nailed the Art direction of Gotham City from architecture, The Narrows, tone, and overall focus of the film with Gotham City being as most of a character as Batman. Also preferred Bale as Batman in Begins, for me his Batman gets worse the more the films go on but he nails Bruce Wayne throughout all the films.
I just never liked how Nolan striped alot of the personality away from Gotham and Batman to make it more grounded. idea that this is how Batman would be like in the real world. We kind of ended up with a Gotham City that looks like Chicago and a film that feels less like a Batman film and more like a crime drama with Batman in it. Still a great film though I just prefer Batman Begins and The Batman. Also felt that Two face was pretty wasted so idk. Respect Nolan for bringing Batman back into the mainstream with these films but at the same time he kind of made it difficult for those people to get into other Batman media as it's just much more outlandish, wild and stylised compared to the Nolan films.
Batman is the greatest detective and the majority of his comics and cartoons are crime dramas.
@@2wyt160 Yet they still felt like Batman media. My point is The Dark Knight loses alot of the personality and feel of the Batman Universe when they removed alot of the art direction of Gotham City along with the tone as well. So it feels more like a crime Drama with Batman in it rather than a Batman film with crime drama elements. Batman Begins felt more like a Batman film than The Dark Knight but it doesn't make it a bad film. I just prefer Batman Begins as a Batman film but I do still believe that The Dark Knight is a great film.
Agree, Nolans idea of Gotham being any City was something alot of people disliked. Gotham has its own history, landmarks, and architectural designs so removing all of this makes no sense. It really does feel like a film set in Chicago with Batman in it lol like an episode of a crime show where Joker has travelled to Chicago and Batman arrived to help the Chicago Police Department.
The Joker is the ultimate agent of chaos, it is impossible to water down or define his motives or reasons to one simple thing.. he wants to disrupt and to destabilize, he wants to point a mirror onto the face of society and expose all of its flaws and hypocrisies. Batman fights for the soul of Gotham and and the good in its people, the Joker is the antithesis of this and wants to show that Gotham and its people are not worth saving, to prove Batmans cause is nothing more than a bad joke.
Good observation about Rachel and her lack of impact. That could be an issue. But one problem I had with the film which was probably my only issue is I never bought Dent's fall which seemed too fast, too hard, and unearned.
If Rachel was pregnant. And/or he became addicted to opioids which would make sense to dull the pain from his injury, then I think I would've believed his character's turn. The combination of both the trauma of loss/injustice and a chemical dependency would've made much more sense to me as an explanation of his transformation.
The coolest thing about both movies is in Joker, you don't really know Arther's age and he would have been pretty old by the time The Dark Knight but I think both movies could line up well but the only thing that doesn't line up well is what was Joker doing from childhood until The Dark Knight because you would assume Joker would have continually caused havoc and should have already been known BUT they are still great movies
i will never stop being impressed by this film its perfect.
Would you believe that the internet hated Heath Ledger for being cast as the joker? No one believed that the rom-com actor that was in Brokeback Mountain could play that character, but he proved them all wrong.
I agree with you about Rachel and no development between Bruce and Harvey. That was my only complaint about Christopher Nolan’s script but everything else in the movie was brilliant.
@JohnJohnson27-cs6ix okay, to each their own.
One of the greatest movies of all time! So many quotable lines!
As for the Bruce, Rachel, Dent thing. I can see your point about the lack of chemistry etc. I think it's because of the recast of Rachel in this movie. Perhaps others here know the details.
I still can't fathom how Heath Ledger and the Joker is the same person even after all these years. Heath was very shy by nature and you can see in interviews especially his last ones how anxious he was with the attention, he was a kind man with a gentle soul. Just look at the young heartthrob in A Knights Tale and imagine that handsome guy as that psychopath. This is what acting is all about and I can see why he is Joaquin Phoenix's favorite actor.
Right?! The first time i was taken aback was when he did Brokeback mountain. I was like "....is this really the guy from knight's take? 10 things? THIS GUY?" His acting was fucking crazy and i actually forgot it was him as the movie went on. He shattered the prettyboy image in that role. Even the studio thought he wasn't 'macho' enough for brokeback. But he was, and he was intimdiating af as well. The fight scenes were savage, and the part where he threatens to punch his ex-wife was so fucking terrifying. it still gives me chills.
And he is also one of Daniel Day Lewis' fave actor. He said how Heath was so perfect and unique in brokeback and how it was the best and moving performances he's ever seen.
Heath was such a dope person, really down to earth in real life. Yeah, he was humble, quiet in interviews. He also had strong feelings about discrimation. He defended the hell out of brokeback mountain. He wouldn't let his friends joke about the relationship. And he refused to perform at the oscars because of the immature brokeback joke.
So ahead of his time. Still one of the celebrities i'll always mourn. And it's sad that we never got to see a movie he directed. Being a film director was one of his biggest dreams.
Some of the biggest rock/pop stars are quiet people in their everyday lives for example.
Loved your reaction😊...if your into more batman stuff then Mask Of The Phantasm is a must watch but its an animation if thats your thing..looking forward to the next
It's hard to believe when they said who was going to play the Joker in this movie people were pissed off they thought it was a horrible idea cuz he was more known for playing romantic comedies and we were wrong he did an amazing job
I always thought the Joker was laughing as he falls to his death was because he was just plain crazy. I never realised that he was laughing cos he thought he managed to corrupt batman till you mentioned it. Also, it is ironic that harvey is branded as the white knight while batman is the dark knight when its actually the opposite
Heath Ledger passed away just after this movie..& it was SHOCKING
& The really TRAGIC thing is...
JOKER'S line to Batman " you & I are destined to do this forever" was in the movie for a reason...
Because this is was exactly what was PLANNED to happen in the third movie by the director Nolan
Joker was initially going to be in the third movie... ,But then Heath Ledger shockingly died! NO ONE saw that coming, the director never expected Heath to die, nor the co-writer, nor the crew... no one did
& So after his death, The entire plan for the third movie was FORCIBLY changed with it NOT involving Joker at all(contradicting The line Joker said in The Dark Knight) & logically they didn't get anyone else to play Joker because no one could replicate what Heath SPECIFICALLY did with the character..he OWNED it & made a MASSIVE fanbase.
The third movie took a radically different direction after his death.
First time watcher and I like to say, I really like your style. I feel like your reactions are genuine and you got yourself a new subscriber!
21:53 Some people seem to not be able to look at things from Rachel's perspective whatsoever and I don't know if Nolan is to blame, or the inherently misogynistic audiences never even trying with her.
22:21 like what are you even saying lmao??
Or maybe there just wasn't a connection with a character. Their relationship after kids was difficult to follow along and she wanted the old Bruce even though he had his own trauma and experiences that changed him as a man overall for 7 years. I'm not going to sit here and try to explain it as if you're a child, i'm sure you are smarter than that and can step out of your own feelings. If it helps, i'm sure you can read about people's opinion if you're open to do so because they are all quite similar. "like what are you even saying lmao??" Step out into the world of opinions and non-judgmental commentary. I would be more open to discussing it if you didn't sound so close-minded with these comments.
@@iamjuststef If you want to talk about "close mindedness" then perhaps don't inherently hate on the only female character in the movie lmao. Nolan is obviously to blame first bc every single movie of his follows a male lead and the women are afterthoughts or simply there to elevate the male characters but you also failed to understand Rachel completely too. This movie isn't concerned with developing Rachel and Bruce's relationship bc we already know where they stand and who they are. We know Bruce is holding on to Rachel as his only hope for a normal life away from the mask and the cape but that's obviously not a good thing. Joker immediately notices how the Batman throws himself after Rachel and sees that there's something more personal there so he goes after her. The main "relationship" here is with Rachel and Harvey who are perfectly developed considering they had to flesh out their relationship within basically half a movie. Anyway sorry for writing a novel here.
Heath in patriot is amazing too, great actor in the movie, and you really love that mans family in the movie.
Best line of the movie "I'm not wearing hockey pads" 😂
I don't know if the other commenters remember this or not, but when this movie released in 2008, there was a small and vocal group of people on the internet who hated this movie because it wasn't like Batman (1989), which I love as well. They even had their own website. Haha. Back in 2008, I remember thinking that their opinion would not age well, and now in 2023, this is still an amazing movie.
Ledger really embodied the character. Such an amazing performance. Ive always loved The Joker. Especially in Batman: The Animated Series. Voiced by Mark Hamil. I highly recommend it 👌.
One of the greatest movies I've ever watched, all the actors did a great job but let's be clear - as great as Joaquin Phoenix was as the Joker and of course all the others, no one will ever be able to beat Heath Ledgers Joker - that was perfection and a well deserved Oscar win, may he rest in peace
Also, great reaction as always 🙂
This may be the best superhero movie of all time.. every second has u hooked
Dvd bonus features include episodes of GOTHAM TONIGHT with the news anchor guy. There we learn that Batman had apprehended a mobster and that was "the hostile witness" in the courtroom scene.
This was the best birthday present i could've ever asked for, watching this movie in theaters was amazing 🙏🏽
I like your dog sleeping beside you while you are watching the greatest film of all time
"It's lovely to see your beautiful faces?"
Um, do you have powers we don't know about? Now I'm scared!
I love it was the criminal who had too much honour to countenance blowing up the other ship
That was the last role I saw "Tiny" Lister in before his passing. It was brief, but memorable.
I'm not surprised. At all.