Another thing to note is that this Venti is lvl 80, whereas transformative reactions scale with levels. So EM build would be even better if he were lvl 90.
@@buffjesus9414 bro that's 5 more EM that's gonna be very unnoticeable bt what is gonna be very noticeable is the difference in base attack base attack is way more important then over all attack and elegy gives EM to the party member as well so the reactions you will get from them become stronger as well making elegy at r1 have more EM since it gives it to your party as well contributing to itself for the swirls
Here’s a fact for everyone to understand esp if you will use venti in abyss: EM venti = when you need to burst down crowds DPS venti = when you need to burst down bosses or heavier enemies. (Lectors) Either way, he is godly. Heavy CC, energy refund plus unlimited burst.
This is a bit of an unfair comparison. It skews in favor of EM venti for two main reasons: 1. Why not use his skill at all? It deals a good chunk of damage. Even at just level 6, the damage isn’t negligible. And who doesn’t use the classic e->q combo? 2. Why not 4p VV on the crit build? Even on a crit build, Venti still wants 4p VV for that sweet sweet swirl damage bonus and elemental res shred. His infusion does elemental damage, and he swirls a lot, so regardless of EM or crit build he always wants 4p VV. That small atk bonus will never beat out swirl damage and res shred. Never. And this isn’t in favor of EM venti, but still noteworthy imho: 3. Only level 80? Swirl scales off of level and EM, so you should have him at level 90. It’s understandable if you just don’t have the resources, though.
In my personal opinion, to max dps venti build, you’d wanna use characters like Bennett or mona to maximise his true damage. Because using Baal and Kokomi results in buffing electro/hydro infused swirl, which is more lenient towards his em build. Of course your build should just depend on what you like using him for more, or what team characters you’d prefer to play with him. Personally, since I don’t really have characters to constantly provide elemental swirl reactions, I build him as dps and my main focus would be on his skill, instead of his burst, and he’s actually really good :D Hell, I’ve even seen shotgun venti and it’s very intimidating, just build him however u wanna play him lol, have fun Edit: I have progressed and I’m almost done tripple crowning my venti, and can confirm I do much more with dps build than em build considering my circumstances and what buffs I can get. But uhhh yeah I actually use him more as a solo physical dps for fun now and it works really well actually aha Edit again: 200k venti HELL YEAH
I would like to point out that the infusions are getting hydro mostly, I think the crit got cryo on the third but I think is the lighting, Hydro on infusion trigger single swirls while the other elements trigger double swirls that make the EM damage higher on multitarget. That is msotly the reason why on anemo swirlds composition, most guides tell you to prioritize cryo/pyro or electro > hydro (most of times hydro is casted after anemo) That is why EM does more in multi scenarios while crit does more on singles
@@Somehow999 The reason you dont want to use 4pc VV on Xiao is bc he is a dps, so the 4pc effect is useless dps wise since he isnt used for swirling, he is used for actual dmg. Venti here is a dps, so his main dmg wont be swirling, but will be anemo dmg like Xiao. Thats why they dont use the 4pc VV for the dps build. P.S; 4pc VV effect : Increases Swirl DMG by 60%. Decreases opponent’s Elemental RES to the element infused by 40% for 10 sec
My Venti build is more hybrid of EM and DPS, since I feel he can be really useful as a mix. 45/115 for crit and 605 EM and he's doing great, I highly recommend a mix build for anyone wanting to use him as a DPS/Support (note: mine is lvl90 which makes EM more useful than if u were running him at lv80)
EM venti is the way to go for F2Ps, super easy to build. If you whale on Venti and get his C2, C4, and C6, he becomes a better DPS as he debuffs enemies anemo RES ridiculously. At C6, his DPS build is more potent than EM, especially if you give him the polar star or skyward harp, but he also makes a good support/carry for Xiao when you have his constellations since he just buffs anemo damage so well. And in theory, building hybrid Venti when you have his C6 makes him a very powerful DPS since he'll simultaneously be doing big CRIT Anemo damage, SWIRL damage, and Elemental Infusion damage. Granted, you'll probably want people like C2 Kazuha, C6 Diona, and/or a separate Elegy bow user to raise EM outside of Venti's artifacts.
If you think you're about to get a build with 67/ 219 crit on Venti, and to use food in abyss, do that! XD Can't you see the comparison isn't even close to be valid ? And the atk build isn't even 4 VV, so on one side he appiles the res shred, and not on the other side. Wanna compare carrots with apples?
After the em and transformative reactions got buff, it's more safe to assume that em build on him is much better and much less of a hassle when it comes to equipping artifacts
What people don't mention is that for an EM Venti the best set is VV but to get EM main stats on the circlet and sands with even decent substats in that domain is really very hard. I have all the anemo characters in the game so I had to grind it a lot and I still don't have even one decent EM piece from that domain even after an entire year of farming it.
idk why but i find it so much more satisfying to see a bunch of elemental reactions on top of each other going crazy than seeing a couple big numbers. they’re both cool but i have an electro charged team with physical fischl dps so i just like seeing many numbers. this is why anemo is my favorite element it forces everything to react. my aether is lvl 90
Venti is one of the most cost effective and flexible units in the game. Build him however you want :D Though I will say that DPS venti is a lot more fun and you get to make use of the high damage E skill
The reason that venti EM build is so strong is because of how Swirl works: -Transformative Reaction such as Swirl also scale with your character's Lvls -Swirl if hits 2 or more enemy deal 2 instances of swirl meaning he can deal double the dmg Also venti Burst can only suck enemy if his lvls is falls under the threshold(Ex: Venti 80- CinCin Mage 100) So ... *MAX YOUR VENTI ASAP IF YOU HAVE HIM*
This comparison is NOT accurate. 4PC VV has 60% swirl dmg bonus. which INSTANTLY makes the EM build make it better than the dps build bcuz of 4PC VV. If the DPS build has 4PC VV it might be more accurate!
tbh theres so many eror/lacking in this video but it is still a good reference, for example since venti e have a pretty huge multiplier it make a decent distinction for the dmg on the dps build. depending on how many enemy, skill talent(for dps build) and artifact sub stat(on dps too) it can make a considerable different but i think both build is good and if well built it doesnt really that much of a different. but if you have limited EM VV artifact better goes to kazuha/sucrose (if you have and use them)
You shall add "burst damage comparison" to the title. Comparison of the two without elemental skill usage is only half of the picture. I appriciate the multiple scenarios! Kudos to you
Nice video! it seems that He is pretty easy to build and works with anything you have good on your account, my Venti is build in the half way, he have a full VV set but with the traditional crit/atk/anemo dmg build, using the stringless, he ended up with 200 EM, 53 cr and 103 cd and with this he gets the job done, sure he is not broken, but have a decent build to support any comp I can figure out without have to think too much in be swapping pieces around, my best EM pieces goes straight to my Sucrose.
One thing I would like to add here is that even against multiple enemeies what build you want to go depends on what are the other reactions that can be triggered with your party members elements. The EM build while shine in transformative reaction comps because all transformative reactions deal AoE damage (swirl, overload, electrocharged, superconduct and notice how the latter 3 are electro reactions). In this video the electro-charged and swirl is on display which heavily favours EM build against hordes of enemies.
I mean having 3 anemo characters with all EM mainstat is kinda of dream but nice to know doing DPS build isnt bad either. I have surcrose full em and definitely want my c6 sayu full em build too. Might prioritize the VV set for now for venti and kazuha
@@limitless8056 the more enemies, the better EM venti scales…but for argument’s sake, venti is a sub dps anemo. He is like xiao, so you use him for offense (sub dps) not as a support. Ive 36 starred my abyss easily without even using 4pc vv on him as I use him as sub dps. Atk 1625, 59/180, EM 590, 2pc wanderer, 2pc vv. Weapon: stringless Note: i wish I have 4pc vv (still farming, as the vv shred is OP)
@@limitless8056 not really. It's just that you get a lot more swirl reactions the more enemies you get in his ult. So essentially you'll be making the most damage out of EM builds if you have 2 or more enemies sucked in. It will be quite underwhelming against a solo target, especially if you swirl hydro
you should have used the same set. Either crit build with 4pc VV and EM build with 4pc VV or crit build with 2pc Gladiator and 2pc VV and EM build with 2pc Gladiator and 2pc VV
Wait,the names are changed? DPS screen shows "Silent frost bloom and EM screen shows "Giant frostbreath calamus" What happened? Pyro regisvine's names are changed too?
Thank you for the video and the comparison but how would any sane person use any other artifact build than full Viridiscent. I mean it's a set SO GOOD you can't even consider in a character like Venti to use only half of the set, even if you're using him as DPS.
@UCjtDKUp485ld_HDnBEGBxeQ my question is the same. Tell a single situation where Venti ultimate doesn't get infused with a single element. Having an anemo character wich strong point is making elemental whirl, why would anyone just ignore that.
@@OkOk-fu3ty I keep answering: why anyone would ever use anemo characters with geo characters knowing that they don't interact with each other in an elemental way? It's like , dunno, using elemental mastery on a physical dps. It's just nosense xD
For crowd control, EM venti. For single target, CR/CD venti. Also, electro can be swirled to its adjacent mob 2 times I think? Imagine if all mobs have electro status and then swirled. This would amplify the more mobs is in the vicinity that is why it is really preferable to swirl electro compared to other elements. It is not an equal comparison, IMO.
This setup is not what you really want to compare with Venti crit, as it amplify Venti EM build so much. The catch is that you infuse Venti Q with Hydro, and then apply Electro. By the order of swirl, Electro will be swirled, dealing swirl damage. Also, since Venti Q also apply Hydro, he will also be the trigger for Electro-Charged. Technically, EM is being used very optimally here. It can be used in abyss/overworld application, but not everytime since you are not allowed to fuck up the enemies' aura. A random instance of Pyro is guaranteed to boom the whole set up, as it will delete the Electro aura, meaning Venti will swirl Hydro (which deals 0 damage). The downside of EM is that it scale very bad with ATK/DMG/Final DMG Bonus buff or even skill scaling. Raiden Shogun is the one receiving TTDS buff from Kokomi here. If you let Venti be the one receiving it, maybe let Kokomi using ToM as well, that's 68% ATK, equivalent of more than 11 max ATK lines. Remember, at a very high stat (buff can make up for it, kqm standard stats assume 40 lines), crit > EM regardless of ST or AoE. Trivia: a C5 Aquila Bennett can buff 1200 + 4 NO 20% ATK, that's about 1350 ATK, or 168% ATK, 29 max ATK lines. A better rotation here for Venti would be Kokomi E -> (TTDS+ToM) Venti E Q -> Raiden Shogun E. Raiden Shogun E Q DMG Bonus is teambuff DMG Bonus, it can effectively "resnapshot" Venti Q, because Venti Q only snapshot his own stat, that's why you can E her later, and still receive the buff. The rotation above maximize comfort (for CC-ing enemies before casting RS E which is slow and vulnerable) while still having Kokomi as the first character, just like the video, while a better one which amplify Venti even more is Raiden Shogun E -> Kokomi E -> Venti E Q. With this rotation, Venti E will double swirl, effectively VV 2 elements Hydro and Electro. TL;DR: The video is misleading, without specifying why crit build is viable. For ST, without buff, most of the times, crit > EM. For AoE, only at a very high investment (and most of the times with buff), crit > EM. Also, even for crit Venti, always use 4 VV, that set is broken.
I just got him And I love him I'm gonna make him my main, no matter what ppl say One day my Venti will be triple crowned and does crazy damage. One day. But not anytime soon lmfao
EM build is cheaper and can be better (if u have some ER substat). But if you use like xiao mono anemo, xiao 2 geo, or team comps that have no spesific reactions, Crit build would be better.
Notes I'd like to take from this video: 1) Venti is not 90/90 No, what you heard about 80 to 90 does NOT apply if you stack EM on Anemo characters Swirls and every other transformative reaction scales off LEVEL at a factor GREATER than characters people usually 90/90, like HP or Def scalers Please for the love of god if you want your EM build to have good damage you should level them up Reaction damage from level 80 to 90 is around a 30% boost, which is almost double of what Albedo gains (one of the characters who scale strongest with base def value), which is around ~15% Extra notes: - Building for EM means you don't have to invest in talents, meaning you actually SAVE resin by doing this build instead of building crits - Calculations from theorycrafters across multiple groups that I've seen all say that EM vs Crit on Venti specifically is a nuanced subject, as they perform around the same in general* (*excluding situations like chain reactions or just single target) if you have godly crit stats + a fancy wep/high refine strong 4*, it's ok to do crit if you really want to, running freeze biases towards crit however, so just run crit if you just use Venti for freeze if you're not sure - I personally *hate* it when people refer to crit setups on anemos built to swirl as their "dps" build, because it is 100% misleading. EM setups can out-dps crit builds on anemo units with the proper reaction support (which is why electro is so damn good reaction wise, but I'll save the "electro bad" misconception explanation another time)
You're right . But not about two things: - The EM build doesn't save resin, as it takes so much time to farm the VV domain to get EM main stats, and we get Maiden along, so it's a big waste of resin. EM has the rarest drop rate. It takes more resin than leveling the talents. - The EM build remains valid in freeze comps, because Venti swirl dmg are increased anyway. EM is useless to the cryo or the hydro char in freeze teams, but it's still useful for Venti's dmg. ( If Venti only swirls hydro, and not cryo, then better go for the atk set, but Venti usually swirls cryo, so EM if totally OK)
Ok so at the conclusion DPS venti is better if you want in Abyass and For like a group on enmies. EM venti is more like off-feild DPS and i belive venti is not a support but more of a Sub-DPS unit.So if you want your venti on field then DPS if not you want to burst the EM and 4 set vv best. Toook me 5 months to get to a conclusion.
I go dps simply because he's sometimes the only one that can hit enemies in the burst, and I'd like his charged and normals to do something productive.
is there a reason why every time I see someone playing venti/showcasing venti damage they seem to be allergic to normal attacking XD ? I mean, wouldnt that just be a little extra damage output on top of everything? I know his normal attack isnt where he's strongest, but the difference between normal attack dmg between the 5 star weapon and the 4 star is probably gonna be pretty large.
Tbh currently my venti isnt too good and his crit and elemental mastery is awful but i use the 4 set of viridescent venerer on him and the favonius warbow. Im ar 38 and hes pretty bad but he does the job. I havent got a five star weapon yet which sucks but any recommendations to make my venti’s build better i would find helpful and appreciate it 💀
@@NexuSYT1906 res decrease is only for the swirled element, not anemo unfortunately however i do agree a non-4pc VV venti is retarted also that crit ratio is horrible, even with +20% crit rate from food.
@@rerg6923 you can still see how much times he swirled elements, as an example off mobs and it does add up so 4pcVV is still the way to go even on DPS, same with kazuha I always cringed inside when I see DPS kazuhas with 2glad 2vv
i feel like people dont understand just how powerful venti is just like the 2 other archons. just because his burst is easily can be used as cc doesnt mean it cant deal big dmg, plus he can infuse any element infused in his burst making the burst deals bigger dmg (depending on how u build his party). he is A God, and whether you like it or not he is on par with zhongli & raiden as all 3 of them are God in their own element
To simplify it: Use EM if your whole team rely on elemental reaction which basically mean all character doesn't buff each other but they have their own built use Crit venti if your whole team is made to buff one character who's a main dps
The comparison isn't valid anyway, for both sides: he used food to get a very high crit rate/dmg for the atk build. We can't use food in abyss, so what it's like with 20% crit rate less ? At least the EM dmg are consistant...
little funny fact here, the 4 star bow Stringless R5 is actually stronger than the Skyward harp R1 in both crit build and EM build for Venti. The strongless excels even better if you build Venti as a Crit build but with the Stringless R5 instead. With around 60%crit rate and 120 Crit damage and at least 160% ER your damage with the Stringless R5 will be actually so broken that it would need at least a R4 Skyward Harp to be able to only match the Stringless R5 damage. If you have Venti and The Stringless R5 (which is super easy to get) go for it you wont regreat anything from it
is it advisable to go for EM Venti when doing freeze comp? because I could go for Crit Venti if ever since my Skyward Harp is currently free to be used by anyone
As a f2p player, I was both lucky an d unlucky. Got Ayato and went for his weapon. Got venti's signature weapon but I have no venti. I have 29 primos left and within 16 days I can't hope to get him.
Next time, pull the weapon first, and then pull for the char who can use it! ( btw, the weapon banner is so bad that a F2P shouldn't pull on it, unless you already have a lot of 5* chars and no need for more)
@@youcool6185 guess you are right. I realised it that I must not pull weapon. But say me one thing. I am hearing rumours that Xiao is coming. If i get him , should I got for the jade polearm or use other polearms. I don't have good spears . Just the catch and raiden is using it and then the dragons Bane with r4 .
Do you have to build him full em or full crit, cant you go with both, i would love to build him em cuz its easier, but i only have a r2skyward harp and no stringless, would this be a bad combo with em Venti?
doesn't really matter for me at the end. i can use all builds here but choose to use the harp. Why? is matches asthetics and lore and its a harp which fits venti
No creo que sea muy justo comparar la ulti de un Venti buildeado a dps con la de un Venti buildeado a maestria elemental. Pero de igual forma, la build de maestria elemental es muy superior
My style in battling is by elemental reaction, and I rarely got crit rate and crit dmg. I want to ask you can build my team by base on attack and elemental bonus dmg?🤔😁
I just want to to say generally the teams used seem to more fit an em venti cause em venti would want multiple reactions while dos venti would want benny or faruzan so there is a difference of teams but i understand keeping the teams the same to get as similar results
I have egely of the end with venti and skyward n amos n polar star, I got alot 5* bows lol. I want him to be a god dps unit what the best build for that dps or EM? O.o n do I need to whale for c2 venti to really make him powerful?!
PLEASE HELP: so I tested my venti with EM and he did way less dmg than Crit build. But I keep seeing other places that EM does more dmg? Is that true? I want whatever will give him the most dmg 😭😭
It depends on many things. EM wins if - there's 2 mobs or more - Venti lvl is high ( 80 or 90) - Venti mostly uses his burst in the rotation Atk crit wins if: - the swirled element is hydro - there's only one mob - the mob resist/is immune to the element that's swirled - Venti lvl is low ( 70 or less) - Venti has very high atk crit stats, or atk crit buffs from the team - Venti uses his NA and E more in the rotation.
There is only one truth here. Farming EM VV is total pain. I accidentally got a crit build venti while trying to get a full EM sucrose. now that i have avatar sucrose (900+EM), im never gonna farm the Vv domain again.
I plan to get Venti on his rerun in 2.6, and I need some advice as I build him as an EM cc support. I have the Stringless waiting for him, but I still have yet to get a decent 4 VV set on him. How much EM & ER are recommended for the time being while farming for his artifacts? What main stats should go for sands, goblet, and circlet? Should I strive for level 90? What about talent levels? I hope you guys can help me. Thanks so much!
If using to swirls other elements, goes all EM mainstat. Or you can hybrid it. Like EM@atk%/EM@anemo dmg/crits rate@dmg. Try to get EM rolls on flower n feathers too. Mine 316EM with 56% c.rate 122%c.dmg doing fine as hybrids. All anemo support love high EM. Like goes beyond 500EM is recommended. For ER, that is venti ascension stat and his passive. Don't worry much.
Normally with DPS build you should use E Skill too which gains high DMG from DPS build. Another note is with DPS build, he is an independent character so even at cases where he is the only left, he can solo.
I mean it's a no brainer em is obviously better..look at the crit stats you even have to have to compete with a not even perfect em build not to mention em scales with character lvl and this venti is lvl 80 so if he ascended he'd be doing even more swirl damage...em is superior as far as I see
His test is not even valid: While he's cheating on high crit stats using food for the atk build, he's putting the EM build dmg down with a low level Venti. And on the other hand, he uses a 4 VV on EM build, but a 4 VV + 2 glad on the atk set, so this one get no resistance shred. Nothing is done as it should be.
EM is easier to build since it is a lot more forgiving in the substat rolls on Sands, Goblet, and Circlet once you get the EM main stats. You can also leave your talent level at low level, but it require you to level your character up to 90 if possible and also his Elemental skill damage will be greatly reduced. On the other hand, with his DPS build, you can leave your character's level at 80/80 and his elemental skill can be a mini nuke. But, depends on your artifacts luck it could take you for couples of days to forever to maximize his damage. You also want to level up your talent to at least level 8. The choice is yours. Edit: Oh you might want to factor those crits into your calculation since EM build is far more consistent in damage since they dont crit.
Of course the dps build would be lacking dmg bc his big asset on that build is his skill (E) after all. Both builds can be used depending on the role you will use him. Artifacts and weapon he used are correct and recommended for each build.
you can't use the same team because venti crits. works different, rn if u use faruzan, Bennett and mona it would do more dmg than venti em with the video's team
kinda weird showcase because even in Crit build you still wanna use 4 set VV. altho the point of kinda unclear but yea, crit build is almost as same as EM build, especially on lvl 90. since swirl sacle base on lvl
Wait did no one notice the regisvines having different names??? 🧐🧐🧐 Silent Frost Bloom/Giant Frostbreath Calamus Raging Fireflower/Giant Everblaze Calamus
honestly i i don’t think dps venti is worth the investment for such similar results. just go with what ever stats u get first wether it’s triple em or crit
Electrocharged swirl is stronger than others bc he's swirling 2 elements AND causing EC reactions. Also Venti is lvl 80. Burst talent only lvl 8 isn't optimal. If you really wanna compare them, it should at least be 9 (but really 10 imo). All in all a poor test
The only reason why I prefer goin' for a hybrid set is 'cause, if you happen to absorb the element of an enemy who's immune/has resistance to that specific element you absorbed, your EM build dmg drop significantly I don't care about my Venti's personal damage anyway, depending on the situation him havin' too much damage is even detrimental to the energy restoration of the party, but at least havin' some split scaling of Anemo and EM damage I'm guaranteed to have him bein' equally viable on most occasions
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Another thing to note is that this Venti is lvl 80, whereas transformative reactions scale with levels. So EM build would be even better if he were lvl 90.
And it's a 5 star weapon vs a 4 star imagine if this was vs elegy
@@tripleog581 i mean doesnt the stringless give more em then the elegy at r1?
@@buffjesus9414 bro that's 5 more EM that's gonna be very unnoticeable bt what is gonna be very noticeable is the difference in base attack base attack is way more important then over all attack and elegy gives EM to the party member as well so the reactions you will get from them become stronger as well making elegy at r1 have more EM since it gives it to your party as well contributing to itself for the swirls
My Venti rocking 575 EM with 71/119 Crits, kinda hybrid EM-subDPS build
@@demoncloud6147 that sounds like.a nice build bro
Here’s a fact for everyone to understand esp if you will use venti in abyss:
EM venti = when you need to burst down crowds
DPS venti = when you need to burst down bosses or heavier enemies. (Lectors)
Either way, he is godly. Heavy CC, energy refund plus unlimited burst.
Question, is em build venti can benefit destroy lectors shield (3 different element on it) with swirl2 or dps build took a point?
tbh I wouldn't even bother about crit build because it's harder to do and deals just a little more damage and only at bosses
Crit could also hold fav bow if you need venti to give more er to the team.
@@SmartyPoohBear at that point you might as well just build em with crit in substats lol, you're not gonna do any damage with fav bow
@@hertz816 True, but easier said than done to get a good amount of crit substats. Plus still gotta pay attention to er substats.
This is why I love Venti so much, from the moment I started Genshin. I really want Venti in my team
his banner is in 2 days i can't wait to pull for him 😭
@@kimunchs Same here
Will you pull for him?
@@smugqing5164 i pulled for him and got him!!
@@kimunchs OMG SAME
This is a bit of an unfair comparison. It skews in favor of EM venti for two main reasons:
1. Why not use his skill at all? It deals a good chunk of damage. Even at just level 6, the damage isn’t negligible. And who doesn’t use the classic e->q combo?
2. Why not 4p VV on the crit build? Even on a crit build, Venti still wants 4p VV for that sweet sweet swirl damage bonus and elemental res shred. His infusion does elemental damage, and he swirls a lot, so regardless of EM or crit build he always wants 4p VV. That small atk bonus will never beat out swirl damage and res shred. Never.
And this isn’t in favor of EM venti, but still noteworthy imho:
3. Only level 80? Swirl scales off of level and EM, so you should have him at level 90. It’s understandable if you just don’t have the resources, though.
Late comment but imo em venti's e would swirl the elements as well, so the difference wouldnt be much anyways.
@@KazuhaMain Yes, his skill could also trigger swirl. But unless you’re getting 20k swirls, the damage won’t be equal.
@@KazuhaMainthe dmg wouldnt be near the same tho
In my personal opinion, to max dps venti build, you’d wanna use characters like Bennett or mona to maximise his true damage. Because using Baal and Kokomi results in buffing electro/hydro infused swirl, which is more lenient towards his em build. Of course your build should just depend on what you like using him for more, or what team characters you’d prefer to play with him. Personally, since I don’t really have characters to constantly provide elemental swirl reactions, I build him as dps and my main focus would be on his skill, instead of his burst, and he’s actually really good :D Hell, I’ve even seen shotgun venti and it’s very intimidating, just build him however u wanna play him lol, have fun
Edit: I have progressed and I’m almost done tripple crowning my venti, and can confirm I do much more with dps build than em build considering my circumstances and what buffs I can get. But uhhh yeah I actually use him more as a solo physical dps for fun now and it works really well actually aha
Edit again: 200k venti HELL YEAH
Raiden has %dmg increase on Burst, which increases Venti's direct dmg rather than the Swirl dmg, so tbh its good with Mona-Benny
@@princesshamburglar9659 ohhh really, I actually didn’t know that, that’s cool.
Oh, great. I use Venti with Kokomi, Albedo and Hu Tao, and I was trying to get more EM for him, this just confirms for me that I need to get more.
tbh the point of the EM build is to directly buff reactions anyway whereas DPS build are sole damage
EM build could've done more but electro-charged is bugged atm and procs less often, which means some swirls will only be with hydro.
I would like to point out that the infusions are getting hydro mostly, I think the crit got cryo on the third but I think is the lighting, Hydro on infusion trigger single swirls while the other elements trigger double swirls that make the EM damage higher on multitarget. That is msotly the reason why on anemo swirlds composition, most guides tell you to prioritize cryo/pyro or electro > hydro (most of times hydro is casted after anemo)
That is why EM does more in multi scenarios while crit does more on singles
Also for some reason he didnt use the 4pc VV on Crit build. On EM he goes VV smhw. So this vid is pointless.
@@Somehow999 4pc vv isnt for a dps build-
@@bloomiinqfruits4453 If you're using something else than 4pc VV on an Anemo Unit except Xiao you're delusional
@@Somehow999 The reason you dont want to use 4pc VV on Xiao is bc he is a dps, so the 4pc effect is useless dps wise since he isnt used for swirling, he is used for actual dmg. Venti here is a dps, so his main dmg wont be swirling, but will be anemo dmg like Xiao. Thats why they dont use the 4pc VV for the dps build.
P.S; 4pc VV effect : Increases Swirl DMG by 60%.
Decreases opponent’s Elemental RES to the element infused by 40% for 10 sec
@@bloomiinqfruits4453 yes and as you can see in the video, he's swirling and infusing the entire time in the video. It sums up.
Basically prioritize EM and if you get crit substats then good for you.
if on venti, then EM > ER (190) > CRate.
EM and atk atk% because your swirl scales on atk
@@ryanryan4223 doesnt swirl scale on em tho
@@ICNHH yeah hes prob thinking just the base anemo dmg
@@ryanryan4223 Pretty sure Swirl scales off EM and Level.
My Venti build is more hybrid of EM and DPS, since I feel he can be really useful as a mix. 45/115 for crit and 605 EM and he's doing great, I highly recommend a mix build for anyone wanting to use him as a DPS/Support (note: mine is lvl90 which makes EM more useful than if u were running him at lv80)
BRO THANK U SO MUCH I NEEDED THIS
what main stats do u use on ur artifacts btw ?
@@yrnreef8513 I use attack% sands, and then EM goblet and circlet. Then I run stringless as weapon for more EM
@@yrnreef8513 np :)
If you don't mind, what artifacts do you use for Hybrid Venti? Thanks in advance! 💚
EM venti is the way to go for F2Ps, super easy to build. If you whale on Venti and get his C2, C4, and C6, he becomes a better DPS as he debuffs enemies anemo RES ridiculously. At C6, his DPS build is more potent than EM, especially if you give him the polar star or skyward harp, but he also makes a good support/carry for Xiao when you have his constellations since he just buffs anemo damage so well. And in theory, building hybrid Venti when you have his C6 makes him a very powerful DPS since he'll simultaneously be doing big CRIT Anemo damage, SWIRL damage, and Elemental Infusion damage. Granted, you'll probably want people like C2 Kazuha, C6 Diona, and/or a separate Elegy bow user to raise EM outside of Venti's artifacts.
I’m kinda late, but should I use crit venti if I have skyward harp?
@@lepineapple6776 i use that weapon and just did a hybrid build so like em and crit
Conclusion: Give your crit VV pieces to Venti and save your EM ones for Kazuha
If you think you're about to get a build with 67/ 219 crit on Venti, and to use food in abyss, do that! XD
Can't you see the comparison isn't even close to be valid ?
And the atk build isn't even 4 VV, so on one side he appiles the res shred, and not on the other side.
Wanna compare carrots with apples?
So the conclusion is:
Crit build: green big dmg, other colors small dmg.
Em build: green small dmg, other colors big dmg.
Pretty much like it
I have a rusty bow and a favonium bow, which one should I use in a venti dps
On one side I have more base damage, on the other I have more energy recharge because of critical and passive
Thank u for explaining in razor language😔👍
After the em and transformative reactions got buff, it's more safe to assume that em build on him is much better and much less of a hassle when it comes to equipping artifacts
I think both are equally good. It all depends on what team are you gonna put him.
Depends even more on the gear you have. Most players probably have a stringless lying around. Most do not have a 5-star bow lying around.
@@pfortunato78 you can still dps with stringless. With the right artifacts
If I put her on my Xiao team, it's em build still good for it?
I've stringless r2, and unexpected good Vivi artifact without em (mostly atk/crt/cdm with cdm circlet, except 1 sands er stat copium)
@@yukumoblood6292 I think its better to sub dps your venti, since xiao doesnt do elemental reactions.
What people don't mention is that for an EM Venti the best set is VV but to get EM main stats on the circlet and sands with even decent substats in that domain is really very hard. I have all the anemo characters in the game so I had to grind it a lot and I still don't have even one decent EM piece from that domain even after an entire year of farming it.
Awh it took me months too when i farm it for Kazuha.
This is me. Where the VV EM pieces at
idk why but i find it so much more satisfying to see a bunch of elemental reactions on top of each other going crazy than seeing a couple big numbers. they’re both cool but i have an electro charged team with physical fischl dps so i just like seeing many numbers. this is why anemo is my favorite element it forces everything to react. my aether is lvl 90
Venti is one of the most cost effective and flexible units in the game. Build him however you want :D
Though I will say that DPS venti is a lot more fun and you get to make use of the high damage E skill
The reason that venti EM build is so strong is because of how Swirl works:
-Transformative Reaction such as Swirl also scale with your character's Lvls
-Swirl if hits 2 or more enemy deal 2 instances of swirl meaning he can deal double the dmg
Also venti Burst can only suck enemy if his lvls is falls under the threshold(Ex: Venti 80- CinCin Mage 100) So ...
*MAX YOUR VENTI ASAP IF YOU HAVE HIM*
I've been two years dealing little damage like a dumbass just because of not paying attention to the game. Thanks so much.
This comparison is NOT accurate. 4PC VV has 60% swirl dmg bonus. which INSTANTLY makes the EM build make it better than the dps build bcuz of 4PC VV. If the DPS build has 4PC VV it might be more accurate!
ye i hope they retry it w a 4pc set
It wouldn’t even matter for the crit build, then. The swirls don’t even crit to begin with, if we’re talking about swirl damage.
@@digichu007 yes but the extra swirl is extra dmg, and they were comparing based on how much damage they dealt to the enemies
Tbf, his venti is also not lvl 90 which greatly benefits EM builds as well.
I've made a vid response on my channel with lvl 90 venti and 4pc VV on the DPS build, feel free to check it out
tbh theres so many eror/lacking in this video but it is still a good reference, for example since venti e have a pretty huge multiplier it make a decent distinction for the dmg on the dps build.
depending on how many enemy, skill talent(for dps build) and artifact sub stat(on dps too) it can make a considerable different but i think both build is good and if well built it doesnt really that much of a different. but if you have limited EM VV artifact better goes to kazuha/sucrose (if you have and use them)
You shall add "burst damage comparison" to the title. Comparison of the two without elemental skill usage is only half of the picture.
I appriciate the multiple scenarios! Kudos to you
Nice video! it seems that He is pretty easy to build and works with anything you have good on your account, my Venti is build in the half way, he have a full VV set but with the traditional crit/atk/anemo dmg build, using the stringless, he ended up with 200 EM, 53 cr and 103 cd and with this he gets the job done, sure he is not broken, but have a decent build to support any comp I can figure out without have to think too much in be swapping pieces around, my best EM pieces goes straight to my Sucrose.
One thing I would like to add here is that even against multiple enemeies what build you want to go depends on what are the other reactions that can be triggered with your party members elements. The EM build while shine in transformative reaction comps because all transformative reactions deal AoE damage (swirl, overload, electrocharged, superconduct and notice how the latter 3 are electro reactions). In this video the electro-charged and swirl is on display which heavily favours EM build against hordes of enemies.
I wasn’t suprised abt the crit rate/ crit dmg, but I was suprised how much EM you managed to get
it's achievable
Just get lucky with artis, my sucrose is on 784 EM even tho I have a ER sands on her.
@@sallyhope2137 IKR SO REVOLUTIONARY
Lol mine 900😭😭😭😭😭
@@crash_bobo10 I’ve been farming for 2 weeks & I still don’t have a decent 4PC VV.
Now what?
The interesting thing about this is that you can use your dps artifacts on him and save the EM ones for Sucrose.
I mean having 3 anemo characters with all EM mainstat is kinda of dream but nice to know doing DPS build isnt bad either. I have surcrose full em and definitely want my c6 sayu full em build too. Might prioritize the VV set for now for venti and kazuha
Good vid! Never know that venti em is this strong vs single target
Is there any multiplier with number of enemies?
@@limitless8056 the more enemies, the better EM venti scales…but for argument’s sake, venti is a sub dps anemo. He is like xiao, so you use him for offense (sub dps) not as a support. Ive 36 starred my abyss easily without even using 4pc vv on him as I use him as sub dps.
Atk 1625, 59/180, EM 590, 2pc wanderer, 2pc vv. Weapon: stringless
Note: i wish I have 4pc vv (still farming, as the vv shred is OP)
@@limitless8056 not really. It's just that you get a lot more swirl reactions the more enemies you get in his ult. So essentially you'll be making the most damage out of EM builds if you have 2 or more enemies sucked in. It will be quite underwhelming against a solo target, especially if you swirl hydro
you should have used the same set. Either crit build with 4pc VV and EM build with 4pc VV or crit build with 2pc Gladiator and 2pc VV and EM build with 2pc Gladiator and 2pc VV
Wait,the names are changed?
DPS screen shows "Silent frost bloom and EM screen shows "Giant frostbreath calamus"
What happened?
Pyro regisvine's names are changed too?
Thank you for the video and the comparison but how would any sane person use any other artifact build than full Viridiscent. I mean it's a set SO GOOD you can't even consider in a character like Venti to use only half of the set, even if you're using him as DPS.
@UCjtDKUp485ld_HDnBEGBxeQ my question is the same. Tell a single situation where Venti ultimate doesn't get infused with a single element. Having an anemo character wich strong point is making elemental whirl, why would anyone just ignore that.
I guess the answer is that VV dungeon is a b1tch and she/he had proper dps gear only from other set
@@Enriri it’d be useless in anemo+geo teams
@@OkOk-fu3ty I keep answering: why anyone would ever use anemo characters with geo characters knowing that they don't interact with each other in an elemental way? It's like , dunno, using elemental mastery on a physical dps. It's just nosense xD
Exactly, video creator didnt use 4pc VV on Crit build, so the video is pointless, waste of time unlucky
Why not both?? I have 500 em 60/120 crit stringless c0 venti and he perform better than yours
For crowd control, EM venti.
For single target, CR/CD venti.
Also, electro can be swirled to its adjacent mob 2 times I think? Imagine if all mobs have electro status and then swirled. This would amplify the more mobs is in the vicinity that is why it is really preferable to swirl electro compared to other elements. It is not an equal comparison, IMO.
This setup is not what you really want to compare with Venti crit, as it amplify Venti EM build so much.
The catch is that you infuse Venti Q with Hydro, and then apply Electro. By the order of swirl, Electro will be swirled, dealing swirl damage. Also, since Venti Q also apply Hydro, he will also be the trigger for Electro-Charged. Technically, EM is being used very optimally here. It can be used in abyss/overworld application, but not everytime since you are not allowed to fuck up the enemies' aura. A random instance of Pyro is guaranteed to boom the whole set up, as it will delete the Electro aura, meaning Venti will swirl Hydro (which deals 0 damage).
The downside of EM is that it scale very bad with ATK/DMG/Final DMG Bonus buff or even skill scaling. Raiden Shogun is the one receiving TTDS buff from Kokomi here. If you let Venti be the one receiving it, maybe let Kokomi using ToM as well, that's 68% ATK, equivalent of more than 11 max ATK lines. Remember, at a very high stat (buff can make up for it, kqm standard stats assume 40 lines), crit > EM regardless of ST or AoE. Trivia: a C5 Aquila Bennett can buff 1200 + 4 NO 20% ATK, that's about 1350 ATK, or 168% ATK, 29 max ATK lines.
A better rotation here for Venti would be Kokomi E -> (TTDS+ToM) Venti E Q -> Raiden Shogun E. Raiden Shogun E Q DMG Bonus is teambuff DMG Bonus, it can effectively "resnapshot" Venti Q, because Venti Q only snapshot his own stat, that's why you can E her later, and still receive the buff.
The rotation above maximize comfort (for CC-ing enemies before casting RS E which is slow and vulnerable) while still having Kokomi as the first character, just like the video, while a better one which amplify Venti even more is Raiden Shogun E -> Kokomi E -> Venti E Q. With this rotation, Venti E will double swirl, effectively VV 2 elements Hydro and Electro.
TL;DR: The video is misleading, without specifying why crit build is viable. For ST, without buff, most of the times, crit > EM. For AoE, only at a very high investment (and most of the times with buff), crit > EM. Also, even for crit Venti, always use 4 VV, that set is broken.
DPS: Bigger numbers
EM: More numbers but smaller
I just got him
And I love him
I'm gonna make him my main, no matter what ppl say
One day my Venti will be triple crowned and does crazy damage. One day. But not anytime soon lmfao
Keep in mind that he is swirling hydro which is much more in favour of crit build because hydro swirls do no aoe damage
i'm building dps venti because i find big numbers from anemo characters very satisfying
Everyone is talking about venti, but i wanna say, why are the cryo and pyro regisvines names different
EM build is cheaper and can be better (if u have some ER substat). But if you use like xiao mono anemo, xiao 2 geo, or team comps that have no spesific reactions, Crit build would be better.
Notes I'd like to take from this video:
1) Venti is not 90/90
No, what you heard about 80 to 90 does NOT apply if you stack EM on Anemo characters
Swirls and every other transformative reaction scales off LEVEL at a factor GREATER than characters people usually 90/90, like HP or Def scalers
Please for the love of god if you want your EM build to have good damage you should level them up
Reaction damage from level 80 to 90 is around a 30% boost, which is almost double of what Albedo gains (one of the characters who scale strongest with base def value), which is around ~15%
Extra notes:
- Building for EM means you don't have to invest in talents, meaning you actually SAVE resin by doing this build instead of building crits
- Calculations from theorycrafters across multiple groups that I've seen all say that EM vs Crit on Venti specifically is a nuanced subject, as they perform around the same in general* (*excluding situations like chain reactions or just single target) if you have godly crit stats + a fancy wep/high refine strong 4*, it's ok to do crit if you really want to, running freeze biases towards crit however, so just run crit if you just use Venti for freeze if you're not sure
- I personally *hate* it when people refer to crit setups on anemos built to swirl as their "dps" build, because it is 100% misleading. EM setups can out-dps crit builds on anemo units with the proper reaction support (which is why electro is so damn good reaction wise, but I'll save the "electro bad" misconception explanation another time)
You're right . But not about two things:
- The EM build doesn't save resin, as it takes so much time to farm the VV domain to get EM main stats, and we get Maiden along, so it's a big waste of resin. EM has the rarest drop rate. It takes more resin than leveling the talents.
- The EM build remains valid in freeze comps, because Venti swirl dmg are increased anyway. EM is useless to the cryo or the hydro char in freeze teams, but it's still useful for Venti's dmg.
( If Venti only swirls hydro, and not cryo, then better go for the atk set, but Venti usually swirls cryo, so EM if totally OK)
Ok so at the conclusion DPS venti is better if you want in Abyass and For like a group on enmies. EM venti is more like off-feild DPS and i belive venti is not a support but more of a Sub-DPS unit.So if you want your venti on field then DPS if not you want to burst the EM and 4 set vv best. Toook me 5 months to get to a conclusion.
y'all know that swirls don't crit, right? it doesn't matter how much cr you put, the damage with EM will probably be a lot higher
I go dps simply because he's sometimes the only one that can hit enemies in the burst, and I'd like his charged and normals to do something productive.
I recommend Venti Dps in permafrezze since the elemental mastery there is almost useless
Not really. Venti can also Swirl the Hydro and Cryo, so EM is still good there.
is there a reason why every time I see someone playing venti/showcasing venti damage they seem to be allergic to normal attacking XD ? I mean, wouldnt that just be a little extra damage output on top of everything? I know his normal attack isnt where he's strongest, but the difference between normal attack dmg between the 5 star weapon and the 4 star is probably gonna be pretty large.
Tbh currently my venti isnt too good and his crit and elemental mastery is awful but i use the 4 set of viridescent venerer on him and the favonius warbow. Im ar 38 and hes pretty bad but he does the job. I havent got a five star weapon yet which sucks but any recommendations to make my venti’s build better i would find helpful and appreciate it 💀
Arigatoo
Thankooo
Merci
I’ve been waiting for someone to showcase the builds 🥺
Lmao
Why u don't use 4pc VV on crit build?
And why u don't use his E skill?
Offcourse if only use his burst EM build gonna win
@@sallyhope2137 maybe he is taking abt the res decrease
@@NexuSYT1906 res decrease is only for the swirled element, not anemo unfortunately
however i do agree a non-4pc VV venti is retarted
also that crit ratio is horrible, even with +20% crit rate from food.
@@rerg6923 you can still see how much times he swirled elements, as an example off mobs and it does add up so 4pcVV is still the way to go even on DPS, same with kazuha I always cringed inside when I see DPS kazuhas with 2glad 2vv
@@Somehow999 agreed
I've made a vid response on my channel with lvl 90 venti and 4pc VV on the DPS build, feel free to check it out
i feel like people dont understand just how powerful venti is just like the 2 other archons. just because his burst is easily can be used as cc doesnt mean it cant deal big dmg, plus he can infuse any element infused in his burst making the burst deals bigger dmg (depending on how u build his party).
he is A God, and whether you like it or not he is on par with zhongli & raiden as all 3 of them are God in their own element
Why one cryo regisvine is called: silent frost bloom. And the other one: giant frostbreath calamus
To simplify it:
Use EM if your whole team rely on elemental reaction which basically mean all character doesn't buff each other but they have their own built
use Crit venti if your whole team is made to buff one character who's a main dps
Isnt it kind of unfair cause 4-pc viridecent is kinda busted? 60% + swirl dmg, 40% res shred for the swirled element
The comparison isn't valid anyway, for both sides: he used food to get a very high crit rate/dmg for the atk build. We can't use food in abyss, so what it's like with 20% crit rate less ?
At least the EM dmg are consistant...
Venti was my first 5 star, and I’m hoping to pull a constellation for him this time around
This is such a cool comparison video!! I rly want him but idk if I can get him 🙃🙃
I just got him on my 40th pull
@@cabi8386 Update I did too lol! Ahh
I prefer 4 viridescent Atk/anemo/critic, because the slimes and specters are invulnerable to their own element
little funny fact here, the 4 star bow Stringless R5 is actually stronger than the Skyward harp R1 in both crit build and EM build for Venti. The strongless excels even better if you build Venti as a Crit build but with the Stringless R5 instead. With around 60%crit rate and 120 Crit damage and at least 160% ER your damage with the Stringless R5 will be actually so broken that it would need at least a R4 Skyward Harp to be able to only match the Stringless R5 damage.
If you have Venti and The Stringless R5 (which is super easy to get) go for it you wont regreat anything from it
Which is good stringless or favounies or rust I am confused I am using as a support character I need her only ultimate
In DPS build, why u not using 4 pc VV ?
Why sacrifice the power of 4 pc VV for add 18% atk ?
It makes a huge difference. With 4 pc VV my dps venti does ~16k dmg with his E. With 2 pc VV and 2 pc gladiators, i do ~ 23k dmg
is it advisable to go for EM Venti when doing freeze comp? because I could go for Crit Venti if ever since my Skyward Harp is currently free to be used by anyone
The hydro swirl is different than others. It does the least damage
If youre free, can you re do this swirling another element please?
i think a good mixture of both is amazing, but only if you have the craziest luck to have both crit and em on your artifacts
As a f2p player, I was both lucky an d unlucky. Got Ayato and went for his weapon. Got venti's signature weapon but I have no venti. I have 29 primos left and within 16 days I can't hope to get him.
I unexpectedly got venti at 20 pulls. I hope you get lucky too, just keep pulling! :D
Dude elegy is very versatile for many bow support chara like diona,sara,even the upcomming yelan.It's not only can be used for Venti
Next time, pull the weapon first, and then pull for the char who can use it!
( btw, the weapon banner is so bad that a F2P shouldn't pull on it, unless you already have a lot of 5* chars and no need for more)
@@ryusawaariel6191 I don't have Sara or diona and I won't go for Yelan . 😔
@@youcool6185 guess you are right. I realised it that I must not pull weapon. But say me one thing.
I am hearing rumours that Xiao is coming. If i get him , should I got for the jade polearm or use other polearms. I don't have good spears . Just the catch and raiden is using it and then the dragons Bane with r4 .
Do you have to build him full em or full crit, cant you go with both, i would love to build him em cuz its easier, but i only have a r2skyward harp and no stringless, would this be a bad combo with em Venti?
doesn't really matter for me at the end. i can use all builds here but choose to use the harp. Why? is matches asthetics and lore and its a harp which fits venti
No creo que sea muy justo comparar la ulti de un Venti buildeado a dps con la de un Venti buildeado a maestria elemental. Pero de igual forma, la build de maestria elemental es muy superior
Me explicas por qué es mejor el de maestria?, en el video veo que el dps logra casi o más daño que el de maestria.
My style in battling is by elemental reaction, and I rarely got crit rate and crit dmg. I want to ask you can build my team by base on attack and elemental bonus dmg?🤔😁
Does EM also scale with attack? The substats for my EM artifacts for venti went all atk lmao
another thing to note is that when you play dps venti that your charged shots will slap and should be used
I just want to to say generally the teams used seem to more fit an em venti cause em venti would want multiple reactions while dos venti would want benny or faruzan so there is a difference of teams but i understand keeping the teams the same to get as similar results
I have egely of the end with venti and skyward n amos n polar star, I got alot 5* bows lol. I want him to be a god dps unit what the best build for that dps or EM? O.o n do I need to whale for c2 venti to really make him powerful?!
I have skyward harp and stringless, both don't have refinements which one should a use for venti?
PLEASE HELP: so I tested my venti with EM and he did way less dmg than Crit build. But I keep seeing other places that EM does more dmg? Is that true? I want whatever will give him the most dmg 😭😭
It depends on many things.
EM wins if
- there's 2 mobs or more
- Venti lvl is high ( 80 or 90)
- Venti mostly uses his burst in the rotation
Atk crit wins if:
- the swirled element is hydro
- there's only one mob
- the mob resist/is immune to the element that's swirled
- Venti lvl is low ( 70 or less)
- Venti has very high atk crit stats, or atk crit buffs from the team
- Venti uses his NA and E more in the rotation.
@@youcool6185 thank you so much!! This really helps a lot 🙏🏻🙏🏻
There is only one truth here.
Farming EM VV is total pain.
I accidentally got a crit build venti while trying to get a full EM sucrose.
now that i have avatar sucrose (900+EM), im never gonna farm the Vv domain again.
if my team is usually zhongli, kokomi/yanfei, and keqing, would EM or crit build be better? (keqing physical main btw)
I plan to get Venti on his rerun in 2.6, and I need some advice as I build him as an EM cc support.
I have the Stringless waiting for him, but I still have yet to get a decent 4 VV set on him.
How much EM & ER are recommended for the time being while farming for his artifacts?
What main stats should go for sands, goblet, and circlet?
Should I strive for level 90?
What about talent levels?
I hope you guys can help me. Thanks so much!
If using to swirls other elements, goes all EM mainstat. Or you can hybrid it. Like EM@atk%/EM@anemo dmg/crits rate@dmg. Try to get EM rolls on flower n feathers too. Mine 316EM with 56% c.rate 122%c.dmg doing fine as hybrids. All anemo support love high EM. Like goes beyond 500EM is recommended. For ER, that is venti ascension stat and his passive. Don't worry much.
Also, for swirls to get better.... All u need is lvl up venti to 80-90. Talents ehh burst n skill to lvl8 is fine.
160%ish ER go triple EM, unless you get a god 4pc VV while farming EM pieces
The fuck not even fair comparison, 5* vs 4* weapon. It brings all the difference
Normally with DPS build you should use E Skill too which gains high DMG from DPS build. Another note is with DPS build, he is an independent character so even at cases where he is the only left, he can solo.
I have a question does em increase venti's swirl dmg? If no why does he need em?
EM increases swirl and elemental reaction damage. Since his ult does reactions a lot, it increases the overall damage.
Just happy to see no toxic kazuha comparisons here.
EM will outperform DPS build with multiple enemies and lv90 Venti
I mean it's a no brainer em is obviously better..look at the crit stats you even have to have to compete with a not even perfect em build not to mention em scales with character lvl and this venti is lvl 80 so if he ascended he'd be doing even more swirl damage...em is superior as far as I see
His test is not even valid: While he's cheating on high crit stats using food for the atk build, he's putting the EM build dmg down with a low level Venti. And on the other hand, he uses a 4 VV on EM build, but a 4 VV + 2 glad on the atk set, so this one get no resistance shred. Nothing is done as it should be.
EM is easier to build since it is a lot more forgiving in the substat rolls on Sands, Goblet, and Circlet once you get the EM main stats. You can also leave your talent level at low level, but it require you to level your character up to 90 if possible and also his Elemental skill damage will be greatly reduced.
On the other hand, with his DPS build, you can leave your character's level at 80/80 and his elemental skill can be a mini nuke. But, depends on your artifacts luck it could take you for couples of days to forever to maximize his damage. You also want to level up your talent to at least level 8.
The choice is yours.
Edit: Oh you might want to factor those crits into your calculation since EM build is far more consistent in damage since they dont crit.
Of course the dps build would be lacking dmg bc his big asset on that build is his skill (E) after all. Both builds can be used depending on the role you will use him. Artifacts and weapon he used are correct and recommended for each build.
you can't use the same team because venti crits. works different, rn if u use faruzan, Bennett and mona it would do more dmg than venti em with the video's team
Do you guys equip the EM build to the main DPS or the sub ones? Also, is physical damage effective only on melee type characters? Thanks
kinda weird showcase because even in Crit build you still wanna use 4 set VV. altho the point of kinda unclear but yea, crit build is almost as same as EM build, especially on lvl 90. since swirl sacle base on lvl
I remember skipping Kokomi, Yae Miko and Ei even though I wanted all of them just to get Venti. It was totally worth it!
I think its important to note that reactions like swirl scale on level as well. Which explains why my 1k em kazuha does 6k+ swirls. So yeah
you can just ignore crit since he works off of e and ult also his e has a short cooldown
Wait did no one notice the regisvines having different names??? 🧐🧐🧐
Silent Frost Bloom/Giant Frostbreath Calamus
Raging Fireflower/Giant Everblaze Calamus
The versatility on venti is absolutely absurd, you can build him however you want and he's viable (besides shields of course)
honestly i i don’t think dps venti is worth the investment for such similar results. just go with what ever stats u get first wether it’s triple em or crit
I still built a dps venti cuz i dont wanna go through a full em set pain lmfao
Electrocharged swirl is stronger than others bc he's swirling 2 elements AND causing EC reactions. Also Venti is lvl 80. Burst talent only lvl 8 isn't optimal. If you really wanna compare them, it should at least be 9 (but really 10 imo). All in all a poor test
Tbh the deffrient is not worthy to change ur build to or farm all over to as well
My venti using em - em - crit, I'm planning to make all em build. Anyone here i want to ask, does he need a crit for triggering a swirl dmg?
Dps venti uses his skill and not rely on his burst for damage. Doing that is promoting his burst is his form of damage which is untrue
I was farming artifacts for him the whole month, now that I got then and realize it makes no difference 🤡🤡🤡🤡
I thought it was already established that for swirl units em > crit since swirl can't crit
The only reason why I prefer goin' for a hybrid set is 'cause, if you happen to absorb the element of an enemy who's immune/has resistance to that specific element you absorbed, your EM build dmg drop significantly
I don't care about my Venti's personal damage anyway, depending on the situation him havin' too much damage is even detrimental to the energy restoration of the party, but at least havin' some split scaling of Anemo and EM damage I'm guaranteed to have him bein' equally viable on most occasions
Hi :3 should i pull for him or wait for Nahida? I have guaranteed... It would be my first 5 star (i have diluc but i dint like him)
The thing is, if there's another enemy beside the Regisvine, he would've dealt alot more