I use 96% ethanol inside of zipper bags and destilled water in the ultrasonic cleaner but the reason for this is because i dont want the ultrasonic cleaner to get all dirty. I don't use resin detergents because i cant distill them and recycle 95% right at home like IPA or ethanol. Only the washed off resin is being left in the end wich gets thrown into the curing station for an hour at the end of the day. Ethanol or IPA is safe to use in an ultrasonic cleaner that doesn't use a heater. Alcohol has a very low boiling point at 78°C and is only combustible when you get nearly 40% of the air in your room being alcohol. So uniformations answer to you is correct and you could use alcohol as resin detergent in the ultrasonic cleaner. A normal air extraction via ventilation to the outside of a window should of course always be present. Chances are people using IPA with a toothbrush for hours on big models will probably end up with more alcohol in the air than someone using IPA in the ultrasonic cleaner with the lid being closed. Anyway thanks for your video.
I like the ultrasonic cleaner but it’s expensive for a 7l volume. I decided to buy a Vevor 15l ultrasonic cleaner for $152.99 USD shipped. You can heat the volume as well. I prefer to use Mean Green or Purple Power which works out well as a cleaner. I’m a little sensitive to IPA, so I chose to use those alternatives.
Built an enclosure around the wash station ( and curing station ) with 6mm connectors and inject 99 % nitrogen with a small PSA generator while cleaning. Also dont need glycerine anymore while curing
Oh my god you touched a nerve.... Just been sent a new printer to review and absolutely nowhere to put it... It's a nice problem to have do I'm not complaining lol
Fumes don't catch fire by themselves, I've used 70% alcohol in my curing station without a problem. The curing station is enclosed, so it shouldn't be exposed to anything. I'm assuming everyone who works with IPA, won't have an open flame in their working space.
Thank you... I recall what they said about assumption in red dragon lol.... I guess it comes down to personal risk appetite but for my stance making a video I have to try to be open and honest about any potential risks again thank you for your reply 👍
How does the ultrasonic method create a higher combustion risk than a magnetic spinning propeller? Seems like the chances for a spark would be about the same.
@@greedy3d480 The only spark that should occur in either system will take place within the power switch, since a brief arc will be created every time the switch is opened or closed. The power switches in both devices will be similar, and on modern equipment they are largely sealed within a moulded plastic housing. I can't see how vaporized IPA from the cleaner could ever reach a concentration *within the switch* to cause an explosion. The only difference really is that the ultrasonic cleaner might cause the solvent to evaporate more quickly than it would in an impeller-based system. The same could even happen with other power switches in the room that change state. Therefore, the solution is obvious -- keep the area well-ventilated with fresh air, and the risk will be minimal, even with an ultrasonic cleaner.
Just about to start my 3D Printing journey I Really informative , especially around safety Im sure I will have some newbie questions to ask you Regards
Mean Green + Ultrasonic = Fantastic Results! That would resolve the debate regarding IPA and Ultrasonic Cleaners. Mean Green is also much cheaper than IPA from what I have seen.
@@greedy3d480 undoubtedly, but I’ve yet to EVER hear of any incident of combustion from something even remotely like this. 3D printing on the whole though is fraught with anecdotal singularities and old wives tales. The actual science behind things like this and uv resin toxicity, shows a much much less dire situation. But hey, people’s inevitable answer to that is “welp, better to be safe than sorry.” Although ignorance really helps no one. Ok, rant over. Cheers.
Hi. Interesting review. Can I ask which water washable resin You use and can recommend maybe? I’m having my water washable resin being to brittle for miniatures.
@@greedy3d480 Ahhh. Got it - Didn't realize it had to be straight and not diluted. Thank you for the heads up. Have you used it straight yet, I woud love to use a non IPA cleaner due to very dry eyes and skin.
Nice review.... I have an elegoo and creality stations. Did you actually see a better clean using the ultrasonic? I agree with the way you approached the IPA. Better to be safe than sorry.
on the surface no BUT the nature of how it cleans means that it should ( in theory) do the inside better - a swirling vortex of fluid in a the typical cleaner wont move the liquid inside ..the ultrasonic should vibrate everything the liquid touches ...i used one as a silversmith in the past and the reason they used one was at how thorough it was..:)
@@greedy3d480 thank you... I have used an ultrasonic cleaner for years on firearms. I know in that process the cleaning is more thorough. I was just curious if it was better on cleaning resin prints.
Thank you for sharing your work and thoughts, everyday we operate items that can catch fire and explode yet we do use them. The stove a micro wave and putting gas in a vehicle but yet we are cautious in the manner we use these items and many more other tools. So yes your advise is well received thanks again.
I use 96% ethanol inside of zipper bags and destilled water in the ultrasonic cleaner but the reason for this is because i dont want the ultrasonic cleaner to get all dirty. I don't use resin detergents because i cant distill them and recycle 95% right at home like IPA or ethanol. Only the washed off resin is being left in the end wich gets thrown into the curing station for an hour at the end of the day. Ethanol or IPA is safe to use in an ultrasonic cleaner that doesn't use a heater. Alcohol has a very low boiling point at 78°C and is only combustible when you get nearly 40% of the air in your room being alcohol. So uniformations answer to you is correct and you could use alcohol as resin detergent in the ultrasonic cleaner. A normal air extraction via ventilation to the outside of a window should of course always be present. Chances are people using IPA with a toothbrush for hours on big models will probably end up with more alcohol in the air than someone using IPA in the ultrasonic cleaner with the lid being closed. Anyway thanks for your video.
I like the ultrasonic cleaner but it’s expensive for a 7l volume. I decided to buy a Vevor 15l ultrasonic cleaner for $152.99 USD shipped. You can heat the volume as well. I prefer to use Mean Green or Purple Power which works out well as a cleaner. I’m a little sensitive to IPA, so I chose to use those alternatives.
Built an enclosure around the wash station ( and curing station ) with 6mm connectors and inject 99 % nitrogen with a small PSA generator while cleaning. Also dont need glycerine anymore while curing
You need a bigger shed now ;-)
Oh my god you touched a nerve.... Just been sent a new printer to review and absolutely nowhere to put it... It's a nice problem to have do I'm not complaining lol
I know what u can do with your old printers 😂
Yes you certainly do! 😊
Fumes don't catch fire by themselves, I've used 70% alcohol in my curing station without a problem. The curing station is enclosed, so it shouldn't be exposed to anything. I'm assuming everyone who works with IPA, won't have an open flame in their working space.
Thank you... I recall what they said about assumption in red dragon lol.... I guess it comes down to personal risk appetite but for my stance making a video I have to try to be open and honest about any potential risks again thank you for your reply 👍
I've had no problem using 99% ipa in mine, been printing and using it for nearly a year now
How does the ultrasonic method create a higher combustion risk than a magnetic spinning propeller? Seems like the chances for a spark would be about the same.
Ti's what experts recommend ...suggest you ask them 👍
@@greedy3d480 The only spark that should occur in either system will take place within the power switch, since a brief arc will be created every time the switch is opened or closed. The power switches in both devices will be similar, and on modern equipment they are largely sealed within a moulded plastic housing. I can't see how vaporized IPA from the cleaner could ever reach a concentration *within the switch* to cause an explosion. The only difference really is that the ultrasonic cleaner might cause the solvent to evaporate more quickly than it would in an impeller-based system. The same could even happen with other power switches in the room that change state. Therefore, the solution is obvious -- keep the area well-ventilated with fresh air, and the risk will be minimal, even with an ultrasonic cleaner.
@@andreafalconiero9089I've been using 99% ipa with my Uniformation cleaner for nearly a year now, I've not had any issues
Just about to start my 3D Printing journey I
Really informative , especially around safety Im sure I will have some newbie questions to ask you Regards
Happy to help ..welcome to the hobby
Mean Green + Ultrasonic = Fantastic Results! That would resolve the debate regarding IPA and Ultrasonic Cleaners. Mean Green is also much cheaper than IPA from what I have seen.
Thank you...I'll have to try that
Meh it’s safe with ipa
Many would disagree
@@greedy3d480 undoubtedly, but I’ve yet to EVER hear of any incident of combustion from something even remotely like this. 3D printing on the whole though is fraught with anecdotal singularities and old wives tales. The actual science behind things like this and uv resin toxicity, shows a much much less dire situation. But hey, people’s inevitable answer to that is “welp, better to be safe than sorry.” Although ignorance really helps no one. Ok, rant over. Cheers.
Hi. Interesting review. Can I ask which water washable resin You use and can recommend maybe?
I’m having my water washable resin being to brittle for miniatures.
Try Jamghe... 👍
Can you just put water in the machine then the bag with IPA?
Absolutely you can
Why the IPA bag if you are using the Sunlu Cleaner? I thought Sunlu said that the cleaner works in place of the IPA?
Needs to be neat resin cleaner not diluted plus was showing how to safely use ipa 👍
@@greedy3d480 Ahhh. Got it - Didn't realize it had to be straight and not diluted. Thank you for the heads up.
Have you used it straight yet, I woud love to use a non IPA cleaner due to very dry eyes and skin.
Nice review.... I have an elegoo and creality stations. Did you actually see a better clean using the ultrasonic? I agree with the way you approached the IPA. Better to be safe than sorry.
on the surface no BUT the nature of how it cleans means that it should ( in theory) do the inside better - a swirling vortex of fluid in a the typical cleaner wont move the liquid inside ..the ultrasonic should vibrate everything the liquid touches ...i used one as a silversmith in the past and the reason they used one was at how thorough it was..:)
@@greedy3d480 I use ultrasonic to clean my airbrushes. I might buy this because it does such a good job. Thanks for the review
@@greedy3d480 thank you... I have used an ultrasonic cleaner for years on firearms. I know in that process the cleaning is more thorough. I was just curious if it was better on cleaning resin prints.
Thank you for sharing your work and thoughts, everyday we operate items that can catch fire and explode yet we do use them. The stove a micro wave and putting gas in a vehicle but yet we are cautious in the manner we use these items and many more other tools. So yes your advise is well received thanks again.
Thank you for your comment 👍