Awesome footage guys, love seeing these comparisons and definitely looking forward to the 850 NA match! many thanks to Bruce for making this possible 👍🏻🇨🇦 Keep ‘‘em coming Jesse👏
Great content, data driven commentary, fantastic entertainment as usual... but... let's see what we all REALLY want to see... an honest comparison between worked over boosts and worked over sidewinders! Step by step through the clutching and tuning for both sleds.
thank you! and i would like that too but its tough to get that set up. especially because i dont have a buddy with a winder that wants to mess with it! BUT one day well get it done!!
Great Video Jesse! Are you and the guys from southside seeing any oil leaks from the oil line that feeds the PTO crank bearing or from the oil reservoir oil line connections on boost sleds? We found a lot of oil spray all over side of engine, belt guard, and crossmember under exhaust. Me and two other guys here in Michigan are experiencing this right now on our Boosts. We ruled out oil lines not rubbing, and its not the oil line pump in bottom of sled.
The lower gearing and 1.6” track on the 9R is what’s giving it the grunt and decent holeshot. If you go to a taller gearing he’s not going to holeshot as good and it will be worse for the 9R. If you clutch the 9R sure it will get faster, but so will the BOOST. I was waiting for these videos to make my decision and for trailing and drag racing it’s a no brainer…BOOST!
I might argue that because the 9R has so much bottom torque when you have lower gearing you may be doing more spinning off the line vs moving forward. Dropping a 1.6 to a 1.5 or at least in that direction, it might help the spin and be a huge help mid and upper mph range.
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Great video as always !! Do you think Will from VSP is gonna make a tune for the boost this season. ? I’ve seen couple videos of bikeman performance ( Torque link ) tunes and they’re pretty impressive ! Would be cool to see same race you had in this video but the boost tuned..
The boost definitely takes it top end for sure. But just my observation and jessie please correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like if you were in the twisties that the 9r has better instant acceleration. For me that would be what I want since I like killing trails. Looks like 9t would be a monster on the trail
Polaris should have just done a 1000cc since 850 and 900 is very close but not knocking the 9r. No replacement for displacement... until you tune up an 850 Boost.
Interesting video as usual. It looks like in a drag race 660’ competition the 9R would be a force. I wonder how a stock 850 would do against these monsters
I don't think that's going to happen. 9RXCR much more likely. The added weight of turbo components isn't really the XCR's mojo. In fact, I'd like to see the XCR lose a little weight if anything!
Yeah this isn't surprising. 9r shoots out, and boost ends up rolling by. I guess for people who bought the 9r was this silly monster boost killer then it surprising, but anyone who has been around anything boosted this is exactly the outcome to expect.
for sure i agree 100%. i do think so different gearing and clutching it would have been closer but i think at the end of the day the boost will overcome the 9R
@JESSEJAMES322 maybe, but do gearing and clutching to a boost, and see what happens. It also low elevation. So your only seeing limited boost. Tune that boost so it running what it actually capable of putting out and it not even the same ballpark. Have you done a 9r to an 850 that would be probably a more apples to apples, or if you could find someone with an 850 with like pipes and a head.
i would call Velocity sled Performnace. I just ran his (Will) clutch kit this weekend and wow. I wish i had it when we did these runs because i know for a fact it wouldve eaten everything and been way out front. And not just speed it was more responsive and better all around
Great video.. If Polaris made the 9r in a trail sled and if I were looking to buy a 2023, I’m not sure which one I’d choose. Probably the boost but I like the 9r as well. That said, I’m not sure it’s worth the money, time, and hassle to buy a 9r engine in place of an 850. Seems like a lot to deal with for an extra 15-20hp. If I still owned my 2019 850, I’d rather just spend the cash on a turbo and exhaust for the 850.
Big difference between trails and lake racing. I can promise you I could beat your Thundercat on a 10 mile trail run using an ancient 6000 R-XC Cat, and even more so on a 650XCR. Unless your definition of a "trail" is an endless railbed!
6:20 And the first three runs you won all three of them so I don’t know how John was the fastest sled all day unless the video was from John’s snowmobile
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Awesome footage guys, love seeing these comparisons and definitely looking forward to the 850 NA match! many thanks to Bruce for making this possible 👍🏻🇨🇦 Keep ‘‘em coming Jesse👏
thanks for following along as always!! this was a fun one!
Your buddy putting the stirrup on was classic. I bet he was shouting Yeehaw too 😂
hes a jokster thats for sure!!! he did pull us all damn weekend so hes got bragging rights!
Great video JJ. It’s amazing what some changes do on these sleds. Thanks for the info and not just the races and done.
little changes make huge differneces especially in the clutching world!
@@JESSEJAMES322 what clutch work did the guy in front have differently and what company do I go with?
It's going to do just what you thought it would do. It's the trail shredder. Corner to corner. Love it!
that it is for sure!!!
Bearing on top changed..and seal on my 850....3800 miles.....bearing was toast
Does the 9R have any more vibration at idle or running than an 850? Thanks for the Great video..
not that i noticed no. Vibration at idle comes from stiffer motor mounts
Great content, data driven commentary, fantastic entertainment as usual... but... let's see what we all REALLY want to see... an honest comparison between worked over boosts and worked over sidewinders! Step by step through the clutching and tuning for both sleds.
thank you! and i would like that too but its tough to get that set up. especially because i dont have a buddy with a winder that wants to mess with it! BUT one day well get it done!!
Great Video Jesse! Are you and the guys from southside seeing any oil leaks from the oil line that feeds the PTO crank bearing or from the oil reservoir oil line connections on boost sleds? We found a lot of oil spray all over side of engine, belt guard, and crossmember under exhaust. Me and two other guys here in Michigan are experiencing this right now on our Boosts. We ruled out oil lines not rubbing, and its not the oil line pump in bottom of sled.
ive seen cracked oil pumps for the turbo. have seen 5 or 6 of them. will leak only when its shut down
The lower gearing and 1.6” track on the 9R is what’s giving it the grunt and decent holeshot.
If you go to a taller gearing he’s not going to holeshot as good and it will be worse for the 9R.
If you clutch the 9R sure it will get faster, but so will the BOOST.
I was waiting for these videos to make my decision and for trailing and drag racing it’s a no brainer…BOOST!
Exactly what I was thinking too. I got 300 miles on my boost so far. Love it
you have a very good thought process. and i do agree. i love my boost!
I might argue that because the 9R has so much bottom torque when you have lower gearing you may be doing more spinning off the line vs moving forward. Dropping a 1.6 to a 1.5 or at least in that direction, it might help the spin and be a huge help mid and upper mph range.
And a stock 850 has plenty for trail riding
there is never enough power
I'm on 87 behind your truck ATM . Sweet ride
no way!!! thank you!
Any time you can go over 100, it`s a great day!! That brought back good memories, thanks.
i agree there! Thanks for watching!
What EPI weights were in the Boost that was out front? Stock clutching except for weights?
EPI Belly Busters 84 grams. Yes all stock
@@JESSEJAMES322 ok thank you!
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Great video as always !! Do you think Will from VSP is gonna make a tune for the boost this season. ? I’ve seen couple videos of bikeman performance ( Torque link ) tunes and they’re pretty impressive ! Would be cool to see same race you had in this video but the boost tuned..
yes those are in the works just not finalized yet! Everyone will know when theyre done!
The boost definitely takes it top end for sure. But just my observation and jessie please correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like if you were in the twisties that the 9r has better instant acceleration. For me that would be what I want since I like killing trails. Looks like 9t would be a monster on the trail
The 9r with stock track and gearing didn’t look any faster out of the hole. Response and quicker revs for sure. It has a 650 crank
for sure would be a 9R if thats what you're looking for. Its instant power and corner to corner you cant beat it
Polaris should have just done a 1000cc since 850 and 900 is very close but not knocking the 9r. No replacement for displacement... until you tune up an 850 Boost.
the 9R is not just 50CC more. Lightweight rotating assembly. 650 crank and some other goodies. i woudl also like to see a 1000!!
@@JESSEJAMES322 Ahh okay it does seem to perform better than just a 50cc advantage. Let's see what Polaris announces in about a month.
Interesting video as usual. It looks like in a drag race 660’ competition the 9R would be a force. I wonder how a stock 850 would do against these monsters
if we really clutched the boost that would also be a difference. but a video in the future will be a 9R vs 850. We did the testing same day
@@JESSEJAMES322 seen a vid other day 850 9r basically side by side, 9r seems like a gimmick imo, they charging way too much for them
Thank you JJ....very good information...I like the boost
you and me both!
Sorry if I missed it, were all the sleds out of break-in mode?
boosts were. 9R no
Boom Been waiting for this one
many have been!!
Them 9rs launch is right there with the boost but no legs up top like the boost
Turbo lag is just a gentleman’s way to hurt feelings.
Good runs, I see Polaris is still optimistic on the dream-o-meter!
the Dream-o-meter has gotten closer actually. i read 4 off
I was just on a website with predictions about 2024 polaris snowmobiles. They were talking about a 850XCR Boost.
i saw that. i would not be surprised to see that
I don't think that's going to happen. 9RXCR much more likely. The added weight of turbo components isn't really the XCR's mojo.
In fact, I'd like to see the XCR lose a little weight if anything!
Per polaris it’s 15 lbs difference. Order it with pull start and it’s the same weight as an ES NA 850
Great job! Really enjoying your channel!
thank you!!
Is everyone out of break in. Mine changed alot after break in. 100 miles only 101 after break in 111.
boosts are out. 9R is still in break in
Awesome…now just throwing this out there but…9r boost 😎
one step at a time!!
How much engine tuning was done to the 9R?
factory tune.
@@JESSEJAMES322, any plans to custom tune the engine?
Is that daikers in the background?
no sir thats a house! not in NY here
can you give me contact info for Wills clutch kit my boost is flying after break
Velocity sled Performance - 1 519-535-1360 facebook.com/VelocitySledPerformance
The 1.6 on the 9r slows it down lots put the same track on the 9r and the rite gear much more top end.
The other 9r had stock track stock gearing. It just lost sooner. Lol
right the other 9R had the same track and the same gearing and same out come
Plus it's got to still be in break in mode
My 23 winder is hungry and I have an idea of what it would eat 😂 in all serious nice sled!
a stock winder?
@@JESSEJAMES322 a stock winder… never seen one… 270 hp tuned the thing is nuts a yet so trail ridable
and i can run a 270 horse tune in my boost then what?! im not talking about tuned stuff! stock for stock it would be interesting for sure!
Yeah this isn't surprising. 9r shoots out, and boost ends up rolling by. I guess for people who bought the 9r was this silly monster boost killer then it surprising, but anyone who has been around anything boosted this is exactly the outcome to expect.
for sure i agree 100%. i do think so different gearing and clutching it would have been closer but i think at the end of the day the boost will overcome the 9R
@JESSEJAMES322 maybe, but do gearing and clutching to a boost, and see what happens. It also low elevation. So your only seeing limited boost. Tune that boost so it running what it actually capable of putting out and it not even the same ballpark. Have you done a 9r to an 850 that would be probably a more apples to apples, or if you could find someone with an 850 with like pipes and a head.
@JESSEJAMES322 also to clarify for anyone who thinks I'm shitting on jesse or the 9r I'm not.
The old guy was catching up to you in the end. His Viagra was kicking in. Haha Bruce just kidding. Great to wach.
HAHAHAHAH im dying!!!! he was coming!!!
What was the max speed of the day?
I saw 115. have since seen 118 with Velocity Sled Performance clutch kit ad I saw that in a much shorter run
Hey jesse any chance of a vr1 boost 129 1 inch ripsaw 165 studs
are you referring to what would that have done in this race?
@@JESSEJAMES322 yup
Just hoping for any inside thoughts might take it too goodwin performance by me
i would call Velocity sled Performnace. I just ran his (Will) clutch kit this weekend and wow. I wish i had it when we did these runs because i know for a fact it wouldve eaten everything and been way out front. And not just speed it was more responsive and better all around
I Love this Channel. I'd be lost without you
appreciate that as always!
Jess had the 9R had one and one quater track it would be faster plus stock gearing like you boosts led. Christopher Ottawa canada
The other 9r had a stock track and gearing. Got smoked
correct. other 9R had the same track and gearing. COuldd have done some more with cluthing on that but that got beat worse then the one Bruce was on!
Thanks jess if the 2024 XCR come out with the 9R motorwill snow check, by way how is the fuel consumption with the boost?????Christopher Ottawa Canada
80 miles and we burn a full tank
Jeese if you got 80 miles per tank out boost considering going your heavy thumb bet I would get 110 Christopher
Line em all up!
Boost the 9R
one step at a time ;)
Great video.. If Polaris made the 9r in a trail sled and if I were looking to buy a 2023, I’m not sure which one I’d choose. Probably the boost but I like the 9r as well.
That said, I’m not sure it’s worth the money, time, and hassle to buy a 9r engine in place of an 850. Seems like a lot to deal with for an extra 15-20hp. If I still owned my 2019 850, I’d rather just spend the cash on a turbo and exhaust for the 850.
would for sure be a tough choice. but the 850 is no where near the motor the 9R is. and its not about the HP its about the torque and responsiveness!
Dude that 9r isn't broken in yet. How many miles hours is on yours? If they are in break in mode you are no where near peak performance
we are aware. it had 100 miles on it that day.
Was the McDonald's still in break in. You gotta do the race when they aren't in tinker toy mode
What mods do you plan on doing on the boost?
just installed a clutch kit from velocity sled performance and then he has some other goodies in the works that i will be running!
Awesome. Anxious to see how it works. I’m not ready to tune and void my warranty yet this year lol
you can rock a clutch kit though!!!
Exactly !
clutch kit was light years better then stock!!!
Race some etecs now! Them are other races to be watching even tcats an winders!
sorry all my friends ride real sleds
@@JESSEJAMES322 dude every sled is a real sled idk what your saying it doesnt hurt to race other sled brands not only polaris
Great vid. That Ronald McDonald boost has some legs.
youre damn right! he dragged us around all damn weekend!
These sleds are within a sled length between each other
boosts had longer legs in the end
i would like to see your 22 xcr and 9r then boost the xcr has great bottom end midrange
i mentioned in the video we have the 9R vs a standrad 850 that will be another video!
Wow, that assault boost seemed to be the fastest top speed?
the ronald mcdonald mobile? That was a VR1
@@JESSEJAMES322 oh, yes, my mistake that was a VR1. I’m going to guess an assault boost would be faster than a VR one boost.
dont know just yet!!
Where are you guys doing your runs?
Buy a thundercat and be done with it best trails Sled out there🤣 I could stand straight up and beat all you guys🤑👍🏻
best trail sled... suree. like driving a Mack Superliner through the trails.
No fun to ride. Too big and heavy. Boring . Good for one thing top speed
Big difference between trails and lake racing. I can promise you I could beat your Thundercat on a 10 mile trail run using an ancient 6000 R-XC Cat, and even more so on a 650XCR. Unless your definition of a "trail" is an endless railbed!
@@ultrazls1 I would love to line you up in the trail it would be a good time ✌🏿 brother clearly have never rode one
@bedlambikes That's funny🤣 you clearly have never had one
Drag racing across a lake in not snowmobiling
for the purposes of seeing performance of a snowmobile yes it is. if you want to see the 9R go down the trail you can go to the video before that
I should say it's a 850 xcr 1.6
???
Mach z also
Ok . What’s the weight of each of you ??
Say 190-205 between the three of us. Depending on how many wings I had earlier
The right setup that 9r takes the boost.
Lol. You must have ignored how the clutch boost ran up top. Without the gearing and track advantage the 9r would have lost from bottom to top.
I'm not so sure about that. Them boost were beating that handily.
i dont know about thatl might be closer but i do not believe they would run with the boosts regardles of set up
Get the 9r out of break in then line it up
Why does this matter?
matters a lot to a lot of people
The 9r is not too impressive
its impressive in the trails. not to mention there were some things going against the 9R (gearing and track)
Needs to be 100% stock and 100% stock was it ??
was all specified in the video
6:20 And the first three runs you won all three of them so I don’t know how John was the fastest sled all day unless the video was from John’s snowmobile
as mentioned line choice was HUGE here. Those were 3 of probably 100+ runs we did and he won the other 97
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