Divide (feat. Casey Lee Williams) by Jeff Williams with Lyrics
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
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United We Stand,
*Divided We Fall.*
So close to transformers.
TF Prime fan to TF Prime fan
A. TF Prime is the best show (RWBY and Teen Titans are tied for second)
B. It should really say
United we stand.
Divided THEY fall.
*screen moves to either dying Optimus or dying Pyrrah* (you pick)
The one thing the Bay movie did right, making Optimus die in as cool a way as possible, fighting 4 or 5 Decepticons all on his own.
I actually liked the Bay films (except 4. That one can die in a fire). Transformers 1 is actually my 2nd favorite live action movie.
Two Steps from Hell much
Chibi Oz: "Flirting was a lot less destructive back in my day."
Canon Oz: "Divorce wasn't. And don't even get me started on the custody battle."
Cynical Oz: "Yeah, trying to put the pieces of our family back together was hard."
This song made me remember the moment when the gang (and us) learned that Salem is unkillable and how evryone dogpiled on Ozpin for not thelling them this.
But he had the perfect comeback. "Do you know how hard it is to convince someone ti fight against something you can't kill?"
specially when we see what the main reaction to such a revelation was: give up. Not even think about even TRYING.
Everyone: WHY DID YOU NOT TELL US?!
Oz: Well, you are proving my point as to why I should keep secrets.
There has to be a way to destroy her. Im not gonna be happy until she and Cinder are dead
@@tatsumigakill7347 They might find a way to undo her curse. Or making her realise that what she did back in the day was wrong and after she accepts that she just turns to dust or smth like that.
@@Mateus_Pereira_Silva i dont really want the second option. She should pay for everything she did
"It was you who ended their lives. Made them dig their own graves. With your dark, sick, cruel design. Convinced them their world could be saved."
I feel like that is the first taste of Salem's main flaw where she blames everyone but herself. She's saying "Everyone dying is your fault for giving them hope. It's not my fault even though I'm the villain."
tbf, ozpin isn't exactly a "good guy", you know since children like ruby caught in a war between him and his ex-wife
@@tonyepic8 Salem wants to end the world, she is one who dragged the kids in.
@@tonyepic8His Ex-wife who is trying to destroy the world, it’s not like he’s just trying to get back at her for some petty reasons. The only "not good" thing that Ozpin has done is keeping Salem’s immortality a secret, but the show actually goes out off it’s way to show that he’s perfectly justified in doing so. Lionheart, Raven and probably countless other allies in his past lives turned on him when they learned about it. Even our main characters spend like 2 episodes wondering if they should just give up when they learn about it.
@@letendreelliott8778 only for them to betray Ironwood and lead to fall of atlas
@@letendreelliott8778 plus we never were never told if raven was a "Allie of his"
3:30 I love how this was the last line of this song because before she killed Ozma when they reunited, she literally watched him burn.
*This song ages like the finest of wines.*
Yeah v6 to v8 like wow, this is some aot level foreshadowing and it not words it the music that foreshadows everything. For example bad luck charm and v7 ep 11 or 12
Having just come off of Volume 7 last night (probably start 8 tonight or tomorrow), yeah, this song hits like a truck after seeing just how horribly they've all played into Salem's hands. Just, ouch, all of the ouch.....and I know it's only going to get worse in Volume 8 due to both instinct/knowing how narratives work, in addition to the spoilers I already know.
"Have you no shame signing them up for your war. Train then to fight what they can't beat..." - Woman who recruited humans to help her fight the literal Gods
Only shes confident she can win
Also the same woman who's actively trying to kill all of humanity because of a divorce that _she_ caused.
Oz: "Do you know how hard it is to convince someone ti fight against something you can't kill?"
Salem: "pretty easy actually."
@@hiromitsumoonblossom8682 The thing is, Ozpin actually gets set _back_ whenever he's killed, _and_ it takes a significant amount of time for him to get back on his feet.
Salem, on the other hand, comes back almost _instantly,_ in the exact same place, and can go about life as though nothing has happened. The worst part is that she can do this no matter _what_ you do to her.
Basically, it's a psychological thing: killing Ozpin has an actual, tangible effect on him, whereas Salem can quite literally walk-off a nuke and pick up right where she left off.
I hope we get a song called "Unite" from either Ozpin or our main characters point of views to counter Salem's "Divide"
g e n i u s
Sounds fitting for when Volume 10 comes out (if it does) when the team gets all back together! :]
@@Mads_HatterWould it be the day you are waiting for?🤔
I wish RWBY's writing was as consistently good as their songs
same
They don't write their own songs. That's done by people with writing talent.
@@LiteralCrimeRaveIt's done by Jeff (and now Casey) not "people".
The only time RWBY had bad writing was in some parts of Volume 4 and 5 and that's because they just lost Monty. They picked it back up in Volume 6 and only have improved each volume after.
@prettypsychoqueen I wasn't aware of Casey, Jeff, and Martin not being human.
And don't pretend like RT has a top tier writing team, especially CRWBY. As much as I love RWBY, it's clear that they mess up in some bizzare way semi frequently (and they'd be working for a studio that could pay more if they were the best)
"Have you no shame?"
Ozpin throwing a civilian off a cliff:
"No"
This takes on a whole new meaning with the shutdown of Rooster Teeth.
This episode made me go back to the volume 3 soundtrack and listen to "divide" again and man it's hitting even close then before
Vol 1: a kid show
Vol 3:hold my beer
coming back to certain rwby songs after getting to a point in the volumes really opens your eyes again to the level of foreshadowing they put into these
salem's presence has already caused a divide between allies, waaaay back before she was even revealed in season 3; with lionheart easily handing information to her as well as giving cinder, emerald, and mercury complete access into the vytal festival. and then in season's 7 - 8 where she makes ironwood paranoid beyond belief, planting the idea to just cut ties and fly away with atlas leaving the remaining citizens to rot with the hoard of grimm on their way alongside salem herself. with this, it's going to be interesting seeing if the vacuo headmaster joins in with a betrayal of his own or if he remains on ozpin's, as well as the teams, side.
What I love is back in the day there was this big clamor about how the lyrics of the songs weren't canon since they keep talking about all these super dark things and character motivations that didn't match what we saw in the show...and then we started learning about what was going on behind the scenes and realized that the lyrics actually were not only canon but *massively* foreshadowing what was coming.
Yeah every volume divide grows in power
So some people are saying that Salem was very weak in that last episode. and while yeah she was, one must remember, her power is through manipulation and divison, I love the idea of the chess board in the op because of this. in chess you very rarely win by brute shows of strength, at best you get a draw or a stalemate. In chess you win by cornoring pieces, making sacrifices and weakinging your opponent. By sending off tyrian and Mercury she is showing this, sending her men to Vaccuo to weaken them and possibly slow a supply of reinforcements. She knows that her stand in Atlas is a temporary one, and while her efforts may be a direct attack this time, it still holds the psychological impact, even if atlas win the day the people are stll shuck, vulnerable and most of all exposed. Atlas liked itself to an impermeable fortress and for that it will be all the weaker after words. Her strength was never that of her own force, but her power to unite allies and manipulate others
We have seen that as far back as her in the tower where she couldn't escape by her self, or when she rallied the kingdoms against the GoD and GoL. A general's strength is in the war room and by carefully moving her pieces around she can when. Admittedly losing Hazel will damper her but it could be seen that Mercury was taking the strongman role anyway. Her strike in Vale was not to destroy the kingdom, not really at least, it was to destroy the cct, take the maiden powers and disunite her enemies. One must realise that in a long drawn out battle a single United front is a lot harder to chip away at then 3 individual fronts.
Again I bring to the fore her strength in her disciples. Her maiden Cinder, while rash, is powerful and easily her most powerful single player. Her Queen
Watts works in the background, scheming and dislodging the enemy at their strongest allowing her to stay strong. he can weaken the publics unity by keeping the cct down as he did with Penny, as well as spreadingdisunity by hacking the soldiers and altering footage, also attempting placing a weak vassel in Jaque around the table. For that I would call him her Rook
Then their Was hazel, who, dispite his strength in battle one on one, wwas more used as a face and as a diplomat. he dealt with the white fang and spurred them on, ever present while also serving as a convincer to make allies due to his history with Ozpin. For that he would be her bishop
Tyrian is her knight as he serves the role of spreading chaos throughout the enemy ranks
but one must remember that she cannot win a war with four, admittedly strong personel. War is won by the soldiers on the front lines, and with that she has her main advantage. the grimm, her pawns who spread fear throughout a weakened, scared and disunited proples picking hem of one by one and if the humans live then they move to the next settlement, over populating that and causing more fear as resources run short. she has strong grimm too of course but intruth even the strongest grimm can be taken down with a united effort of gunning.
So Salem is the king of her chess board, initially weak and by itself useless.
And here I bring the main reason for why I feel The Rose's proved such hard adversaries to her, presuming Summer was the same as Ruby
Ruby is in her own way manipulative. she can charm and unite her allies around her turning even the most lukewarm ally, for example Marrow, into a more believing one. By manipulating and uniting her allies Ruby can form a force that can win while stripping power from Salem.
And where uniting and bolstering wins, pure strength looses. James is the literal Iron gauntlet of this situation. in even his earliest appearance James came in with a show of strength with his Airforce. seemingly scoffing at the idea that a few well trained warriors could do what a fleet couldn't. Despite this he always had a cushy position in a place that couldn't be touched. flying overhead in his stainless steel ships and blasting his enemies to bits, seemingly unaware that his real enemy could underneath his nose while he wasted ammunition on the grunts.
at the end of the day what could James do to salem if he gets there, Lock her up and she spreads disloyalty by manipulation, killing her isn't an option and neither is capturing her operatives, she normally under that strategy has time to hide for a century, build her force and allow for grimm to be shot at while dislodging the assault at her core
In short A general, even a well decorated one, is only one person, with out her allies she cant win
I can see where one can see this as a disappointment, most shonen Antagonists are Physically strong. but rwby isn't a shonen, not truly and that's why I like Salem, conceptually at least, as a villain, she uses politics to win not true strength
What moron thinks Salem is weak? Lol.
This is the anthem of the world right now. Salem's influence is extending further into reality
Just watched this in the clouds lmao
I love how this song is from Salem’s perspective basically taunting Ozpin. This show is just amazing. Haven’t checked out Ice Queendom yet.
The only "big bad" villains I've seen even come CLOSE to Salem, in terms of competence and terror, is Darth Vader and Makuta Teridax - and, to me, that says a lot.
I love how *victorious* this song is.
So, with how RWBY loves it's thematic and meaningful songs and lyrics, I have to ask, has there been a proper thematic rebuttal/counter argument (so to speak) to this song yet? Also, I just got say, Salem has probably one of the best/most terrifying villain songs ever.
And edit after having listened to the rest of soundtrack for the other volumes, I haven't found one that's *truly* the antithesis/counter argument to this song yet, but I feel like Indomitable *kinda* fits the bill, though from more of low-key, heartfelt sort of standpoint than a whole impassioned, "shut-up, you're wrong!" sort like I was thinking of/looking for when I asked the question.
Second edit, This Time (From Shadows II) also kinda feels like it could be, not so much an actual rebuttal, but sort of an anti-Divide if you will.
There's no real song that "counters" Divide because they don't know how to defeat Salem. All they have been able to do so far is stave off what feels like an inevitable eventual victory by Salem.
@@Zyk0thAnd considering that, in the grand scheme of things, the only thing Salem's introduced served was a singular face behind the Grimm threat, everyone apparently went into Beacon with an idea on how to stop the Grimm threat, or did not enter the Huntsmen career path with the intention of doing their stated goal.
Indomitable was about Monty not anything in the show.
"A smaller, more honest soul. It's true that a simple spark can ignite hope, breathe fire into the hearts of the weary. The ability to derive strength from hope is undoubtedly mankind's greatest attribute... which is why I will focus all of my power to snuff it out.
How does it feel? Knowing that all of your time and effort has been for nothing? That your guardians have failed you? That everything you've built will be torn down before your very eyes?
Your faith in mankind was not misplaced. When banded together, unified by a common enemy, they are a noticeable threat. But divide them, place doubt into their minds, and any semblance of power they once had will wash away.
Of course, they won't realize it at first. Like you, they'll cling to their fleeting hope, their aspirations. But this is merely the first move. So you send your guardians. Your Huntsmen and Huntresses. And when they fail and you turn to your smaller soul, know that you send her to the same pitiful demise.
This is the beginning of the end, Ozpin. And I can't wait to watch you burn."
Sephiroth: I'm going to drop a Meteor on the planet to steal its power
Salem: well isn't that cute. i made my enemies tear themselves apart while I destroyed the world
like DAYUM Salem is terrifyingly cunning
True she let the hero’s fear consume them all and destroy them all.although it is important to remember that destiny was against sephorith in the original
In the remake he manipulate cloud and the others to destroy destiny itself and is hinted that he has power over time and destiny itself.
Not to mention it been said to be advent children sephorith who went back to the past.
Davoth: I manipulated the Kahn Makyr into making the divinity machine to find the Dark one who would end her race, then I also Manipulated Samur Makyr to put the put the outlander in the machine that will grant him my powers. He would be the one to end the Makyr race. All according to plan for revenge against my creations.
"It was you who ended their lives"
Considering what we learned in _The Lost Fable_ ....
Is she referring to people like Pyrrha and Summer? Or her and Oz's children?
Probably both.
Everyone he sends her way "he may as well have killed them himself"
@@ThePontiffofPonWolf Except for the fact that _she's_ the one to order their deaths. It just shows that she can't take responsibility for _anything._
Thanks to Volume 8, I'm back to listening to this absolute banger of a villain song.
I love how well Salem does demonizing Ozpin here as if she’s not the reason he has to make these decisions (like seriously, the only reason he has to “send guardians” is because she’d destroy the world if she had the chance). She frames it as if Oz does this out of selfishness and cruelty, when in reality he’s among the most selfless people in the show.
Say what you will about Ozpin’s morality, he’s had countless opportunities to give up, unite the relics and let the Gods destroy humanity and give them rest but he instead has been fighting a secret war for millennia so that humans can live and die authentic lives, never even knowing he or Salem exist. He doesn’t lust for power, doesn’t demand unwavering obedience from his faction, and forgives and makes excuses for betrayal so easily it’s almost stupid.
Salem’s methods of torture and emotional manipulation make Ozpin look like an angel in comparison. Just look at how she exploits Cinder’s trauma, and Hazel’s grief. She presents herself as a guiding figure to them and validates their anger at the world, making them believe the injustice they dealt is the fault of the whole human race-especially Ozpin’s faction, even when they didn’t have much to do with it.
The whole song is gaslighting toward Ozpin, and based on how he is in the show he kinda believes it? Like he seems to understand that he’s better than Salem but also seems to reallllyyyy hate himself and thinks he deserves to die a thousand painful deaths (and says as much to Hazel). It really drives home how convincing and manipulative Salem is-especially seeing some viewers agreeing with her words
Oh what's that? You're saying we'll lose? Sorry, I'm too busy headbanging to accept despair lmao
THE WILLIAMS NEVER MISS
i love how everyone here is giving these deep realizations and shit and im just sittin here vibin to the second "victory"
I used to listen to this song when I was 7, yes it changed me.
that is a great mental image
Ngl this song perfectly describes America right now
It fits perfectly now more than ever after the siege of Congress at the Capitol
@@GbyP oh... oh god
V8 hits different
And end of 7
Somehow I missed this song. But don't worry Now it's playing on repeat.
Feels feel very relevant for the most recent volumes.
Messiest divorce ever.
This song is perfect for Volume 8
^o^
"Train them to fight what they can't beat..."
Yeah. I mean, she literally cannot be beaten. FUCK
It's been shown that she _can_ be beaten, just not _killed._ The simple fact that humanity still _exists_ on Remnant proves it, and so does the fact that Ozpin had kept the Relics from her for thousands of years.
I *love* coming back to this comment section and seeing everyone commenting about how evil Salem is and how scary she was the way back in v3/4. Now that we’re in v8, I’m so excited to see what comes next
It's funny how salem cast ozpin as the villain because he sends kids to fight a war so the planet won't be destroyed. It is a bad thing but what else could he do?
Plus she sounds hypocritical when she’s even worse than he is...it’s like she lost all of her human side and cast it out; unaware of the actions she’s causing
More importantly, he's trying to stop _her_ from killing everyone. She's blames Ozpin for sending people to their deaths whilst being the one to _actually_ murder them; it just shows how pathetic and immature she really is, and serves to reinforce the idea that she _still_ hasn't learned how to take responsibility.
@@Jackson-ub1uv true
Season1：A little-red girl tries to become a hero that she always wants to be.
Season2：Something weird but nothing can stop the girl and her friends.
Season3：NO！EVERYONE IS DYING！EVERYTHING IS BROKEN！WE WILL BE KILLED！AHH！！！！
Season 4: sign... we have to keep moving forward
Season 5: let fight!
Season 6: you lied to us!
Season 7: trust love doesn't work 💔
Season 8: NOT AGAIN! NOT AGAIN!
@@joshualighttime604 so sad 😢 .
Its a shame Salem could not live up to the hype of her vilain song. After all these years she proves to be a lame. Just shameful
I think she’s a great villain
She dismantled Atlas I think she's done great
@@ThePontiffofPonWolf I'm sorry but who removed the relic responsible for keeping Atlas in the air in the first place? Last time I checked it wasn't Salem. She literally spent volume eight basically doing nothing but sit in her giant ass whale, sending waves of grim too do the fighting for her, getting betrayed by one of her own lieutenants, and then getting nuked and spent the rest of the season regenerating and then in the end only got the relics because Cinder was putting into work to get them and everyone else was too busy betraying and fighting each other rather than actually putting up a intelligent United front against her and not because of her manipulations but because damn near everyone involved was an idiot. She was set up a season or two ago to basically go and have her Thanos moment and she was about as effective as a wet fart.
2:05 onwards goes existencially hard
Salem: *exists*
Arthas, The Lich King: “Why do I hear boss music?”
Seems like this song is coming to fruition right now
Best song in all the soundtracks, you can't change my mind
When is this played in the anime iv re watched it like 3 times and haven’t noticed this in the anime it’s sounds epic
The end credits of volume 3
came here after seeing an animatic with this song, somehow this song's existence escaped me after re watching rwby 5 or 6 times???
It's interesting how Salem takes inspiration from both the Wicked Witch of the West/East from The Wizard of Oz (in her current incarnation) and Rapunzel (before she fell into the Grimm pool and was cursed by the brothers)
I see Salem walking up with a poorly made cake after vol 3 with messy writing on it that says "you tried"
Salem? Have a snickers. You turn into a raging Grimm she demon when you're hungry. Better?
Salem: .......it's a start
This song really sells the point that Salem is quite literally hate and grudge incarnate
This song gives me chills
I'm not a RWBY fan but boy their music is amazing!!!
2:57 This entire song is Salem's message to Ozpin.
So who's here after today's episode?
*cries
*Cries More
Why is it that the villains always get the best theme songs?
2:33 why is Qrow's theme in here?
One thing I like about Salem as a villain is that she does not underestimate her opponents, or at least tries her damnedest not to. She evaluates people's strengths and weaknesses and judges them appropriately. Oh sure, she's very confident in her victory, but every move is still calculated and she knows that if she leaves the good guys enough room to regroup and form a good strategy, they very much have a chance.
This kind of reflects in the way she treated Cinder and the rest of her underlings in episode 1. Whereas everyone is ridiculing Cinder for what she failed to do, Salem actually recognized what she had actually accomplished. She's strict, and undoubtably evil, but in her own way, she's *just*. I still want to see her fail just like everyone else here, but... she's a pretty damn solid villain, and that gives her a really, really good chance of winning, or at the very least successfully scarring the world before going down.
It seems fitting if the FULL team Rwby takes her down to show that her plan to divide the heroes failed.
the most impressive part is that, for the majority of the story, salem is in the exact same position as her enemies. she has no idea who's a threat at any given moment, and while her narration shows that she suspected ruby would play a part in ozpin's schemes, she had no idea how much of a pain in the neck this one child would be.
in other words, salem can and often is caught on the back foot, unable to respond. the plan for beacon and vale went off nearly without a hitch, but in the process their team lost roman (who, while a minor player, was a valuable asset), failed to kill ruby and got cinder crippled, failed to retrieve the relic, got their dragon petrified and lost track of ozpin, since cinder is sure he died but salem knows that won't keep him down for long. salem's plan worked, but her side took a beating and had to regroup after.
salem isn't this uber-powered nightmare antagonist who's holding all the cards. she's in the same position as ozpin, she just has more operatives and can replace lost troops easier.
Yal Rathol Yeah, you're right! Good villain design right there.
Have you ever read Fablehaven? the main villain is also annoyingly smart and knows how to manipulate people well.
Fus-Ro-Da! that antagonist (spoiler free!) isn't quite on the same level as salem is, because they are present in the story from the start. they don't have the same aura as salem does, and we see them fail a lot more often than salem does.
Audience: Man, Cinder is crazy evil villain.
Salem: Lel, that's cute.
I searched "RWBY Jinn's Theme" on UA-cam. This was the first result. Coincidence?
who says that?
Cinder is such a shit villain her voice actor sounds like she doesnt give a shit half the time i truly hope neo kills her and inherits the maiden powers
@@cerooscuas Cinder's VA isn't a professional VA, she's a professional cosplayer
@@huynhtonhatquang7533 i mean i think she nailed cinders voice as she had the voice of a powerful person who feels they cant be stopped makes me sad she dosent talk herself normally now
"I will extinguish that flame"
and the verse after it
brings me to chills each time
The entire song is chilling. It leaves me scared for every living person in Remnant.
NEON Well you probably have to wait a while! We have to endure the entirety of JNPR fall... They're all based on famous martyrs (and now I want to see the Remnant Jesus...)
EDIT: Reading through the comments overanalyzing the song, I feel like it's Yang that'll be gone... She will extinguish the flame.
I feel like if anyone on Team RWBY is dying it's either Weiss or Yang (or both).
I doubt any of them will die over the course of the show and the lyrics "1 spark can incite their hope and ignite the hearts of their weary souls, I will extinguish that flame" is her talking about how she'll destroy their ability to light the dark or ignite hope that doesn't really Tai in to Yang (yead I made a pun, I bet you're wondering Xaoi Long I've been waiting to use that)
TsubakiiHime SAMEEE
Friendly reminder: This is the same group that made boop.
Jacob Furrow
Holy crap, it is the same group! How come I’ve just realized this?!
And Shine.
And Neon
And I Say Ooh.
And almost every other song in RWBY.
Why does the entirety of Humanity have to deal with Ozpin's evil ex?
Ian Lewis Don't... don't give me Scott Pilgrim flashbacks.
Hey, so long as you don't try to date Ozpin, you're probably good
Must suck to be Glinda tho
Why would you not want Scott Pilgrim flashbacks. That movie was great honestly
Kooks Peres That doesn't work, the gods were brothers and Salem's a woman
Supreme KittenLord Did you just assume the lord of destruction's gender...SHIT I DID IT TOO LOL WHOOPS
The sad part is, the fandom shows this perfectly because so many people doubt whether or not Ozpin is the good guy or not now. Which is exactly what Salem was after, plant seeds of distrust as to where your allegiances should be.
Well she will never break my allegiance with Roman despite him being dead. Favourite character ever!!!
To be perfectly honest, it wasn't _that_ hard. Ozpin has been keeping a lot of shit hidden from most people, the Maidens, the Silver-eyed warriors and Salem herself, and has been going about this war like it's a game of chess, with both sides taking turns, which allowed Cinder to sneak into the Shit-Security communications Tower, and upload her "Order 66" virus.
So yeah, Ozpin didn't exactly have my trust from the get-go, and it doesn't help that I'm a bit cynical when it comes to old-looking people who are in charge of an institution that trains people to fight.
Juho Tapojärvi Cough
DUMBLEDORE
Kyle Santos Exactly, and cough *Hiruzen*
Whatever Ozpin has planned, extinction of the human race really should make it pale in comparison
Instead of "These children you mislead," I originally thought the lyrics were "Your children are minced meat."
This is why lyric videos are important, guys.
shortly after that, I heard "Divide them! Tear them apart! Sever their drumsticks, they'll strangle their hearts!"
Considering the events of "Lost Fable", you are more accurate than you'd probably like...
I may _fall_. When it _falls_. Watch them _fall_. There's a lot of use of the word fall in this volume. It's almost as if it's the theme of something.
It is obviously themed around.........Spring time :D
If I had to guess... It's the story of how Cinder and Salem just keep putting grease on the stairs and videotaping the reactions of everyone else in the house when they try to go down them. I can see *zero* other possibilities.
Brace yourselves, my lads. Winter is Coming
Actually, I may fall is from vol 1. Even tho it was used for Velvet's weapon reveal, so i get your point
But what about: Not _fall_ in love with you? xDD
TheRexRider the third volume was a demonstration of how the best can be defeated. Fall is synonymous with loss, defeat, death. All things that happened by the end of volume 3. Also this song is Salem's theme and her goal that we can see is to tear down humanity.
This song made me realise one the of the reasons, maybe the main one, why Salem wanted to ally with the white fang. Humans already distrust the Faunus so if a big organisation of them kill and steal from humans, the humans will turn against the Faunus even more thus dividing humanity even more.
She really does put all other villains to shame
KawaiiUnicorn928 yeah, most villains rely on big shows of power, Salem seems to be more of a strategist which actually is a bit scarier
Dylan McNab exactly. She & her underlings are all extremely powerful, but she doesn't rely on power alone. She has meticulously thought out plans. She examines every aspect of a given situation & acts accordingly. She's the most pragmatic villain I've ever seen, & being pragmatic is a very important thing when you're commanding troops of people. She can solve problems of discipline in a very strict, but very fair way. She gets shit done.
Artorias' elite
It is confirmed comming this fall >< Hype!
She is probably
SPOILER : DONT READ IF YOU HAVENT WATCH THE LATEST EPISODE.
LAST WARNING
She is probably not dead.
I think anyway, But Monty already created the story plan for 5 Seasons (Or 6?) So.... Hard to say, if the good guy can perma die, maybe she can to. Eh.
A specially in the second latest episode or latest for people without first
She was fricken Terrifing
I believe Darth Sidious is the best villain for he ruled the galaxy for 23 years.
I feel some sense of irony between these lines:
"I will extinguish that flame!"
"And I'll watch you burn!"
Which one do you prefer, Salem?
She is saying that she will destroy their hopes (extinguish the flame of hope) and she wants to watch them suffer ("burn" them to death)
ToastyMouse I’m late but I think it was written purposefully for irony bc of that
Pretty sure the point is she'll USE that flame to burn them. Basically saying I'll turn your power against you. I mean, she's saying how she'll divide them and let them tear each other apart already so it's not that big of a stretch.
Only Salem's flames are allowed to exist.
She is extinguishing the flame that resembles hope, and she's going to watch Ozpin burn.
Remember when we all thought "Die" was the darkest RWBY song?
That memory about Die has been engulfed by the darkness
Erick Sang What is this? Rwby or Kingdom Hearts?
OMFG YAASSS I USED TO THINK ¨DIE¨ WAS THE DARKEST SONG
BigTopFreakShow red like roses part 2 use to be the darkest for me
currently it's "Lusus Naturae" for me
"Train them to fight what they can't beat"
Volume 6 Chapter 3.
Yeeeessss
It makes more sense now after the giant Lore Dump we got. No way anyone can defeat Salem in combat. Ozpin kinda proved that when he fought Salem and disintegrated her in their ruined mansion and she simply revived basically from nothing.
@DuckHunt(AxelRoxasXion) How exactly? She is literally immortal and that was before her grimmification. Look I don't like it either, but don't deny the truth, changing the wording does not change the facts.
Even if the Silver Eyes are supposed to be some sort of counterbalance, they are not enough. Unless the writers have some sort of unique method or secret plan, then this looks pretty dark for our heroes no matter how positively you try to spin it.
@DuckHunt(AxelRoxasXion) Ozpin is a guy who has lived almost as long as Salem, don't you think he has pretty much tried everything at this point?
@DuckHunt(AxelRoxasXion) he has lived at least 4 lives focused on beating Salem (the guy who made the staff, the guy in the suit who asked gin those questions, the king of vale and Ozpin the head master). And i doubt this is going to be an issue of linguistics like the whole "no man can kill me" thing in lord of the rings. She was granted immortality. She has tried to kill herself, she has let others cut her down, and she even survived that time when the god of darkness literally killed everyone on earth, after which it almost looked like a piece of the moon fell on her. But yes, it is still Ozpins fault because he asked the wrong question. he specifically asked "how do i destroy Salem" instead of "how can i stop Salem". The gods also said something about how she had to understand the balance of life and death, so possibly its just a matter of her needing to learn a lesson and boom, immortality gone. I hope its a bit more complex than that but thats all we have right now.
I love how this song was literally just Salem saying "Fuck you, Ozpin" whilst rubbing in the fact that she won by a *long* shot.
I would say everyone should give the bad guys a hand, but Yang already did that...too soon?
I guess you can say that joke got out of HAND
That was a really underhanded blow, mate
Man it would be real HANDY if I could come up with puns like that.
Yeah, it's not really a "sunshine and rainbows" kind of song.
Seriously, how does RWBY manages to make a song about a potential extinction level event while sounding cool? Their songs are awesome!
ask Casey lee and Jeff Williams
I’ve got a better question how do you make a song about the extinction of mankind and not make it sound cool
And now we know why she's filled with so much hate and rage. To be honest? I understand. Salem, bad as she was, didn't deserve what happened to her. Poor Salem, poor Ozpin. Fate dealt them both a cruel hand.
She refused to accept Ozma's death and move on. And in her quest to disrupt the balance of life and death, she ended up becoming the architect of humanity's extinction. I mean, come on. She's basically Satan, a creation of the Gods who rebelled against them and was cast out as fallen - given a path to redemption, but too angry and narcissistic to take it. She's a lot like the villainess Demona from the old Disney animated series Gargoyles - both tried to overturn a delicate balance for their own benefit, and despite having been given NUMEROUS chances to come to terms with what they've done, learn from it and try to be better, they never do because they pass the blame for their actions and the consequences of said actions onto others. They are always right, everyone else is wrong. Nothing's EVER their fault. Salem blamed the gods for Ozma's death and for not resurrecting him, then for resurrecting and killing him repeatedly, THEN for preventing her from being with him, AND THEN for wiping out humanity, when in reality it was all due to HER actions - except for Ozma dying of illness, that one's on illness. I wonder if Salem could use her destruction powers to destroy all illnesses in retaliation... That would have been an excellent path for her to take after Ozma's death, become a travelling physician in his memory, travelling the world as they planned, learning everything she could about disease and medicine, and helping people avoid the same heartbreak. Too bad she chose to blame the Gods instead of illness.
Not fate
A couple of divine twits who are just like the Greek gods
Being vindictive on a disproportionate scale and uncaring of their creations
It's not like the light god said she couldn't do to the other brother and try, but how dare she do so? What? And then making it so she'll NEVER see her love? And being surprised about her revolting against them? Honestly the dark god IS better: he tried to bring ozpin back, he created fire (now we can eat food better), and more. I mean, yeah he also was apart of the bad, but he did TRY to do good for salem and ozma.
@@darthknightwingphoenix2081 then she killed him and their children
Mariam Bidery yes, that too.
Oh alright... just one more time...
*Plays on repeat for three hours*
mom: dont you think you should take a break?
_QuestKey_ Tm shut up mum im revising
Play it again FILSS
Most evil fucking rabbit i've ever see
You have made your move Salem. But the game is not over yet.
+gorko thor Don't worry Ozpin still has his pawn/queen.
His smaller soul whom Salem said she too would would meet her demise :(
Naomi If she lays a finger on Ruby...
Bricklord 101 Well Salem PREPARE TO DIE! *The roar of dark soul monsters are heard*
we hit the riot button and u no if she does it will be a cliffhanger
Can I just say! After watching episode 3 of Volume 6... this song makes much more sense.
The last verse is "...and I'll watch you burn", but she already burned Ozma, so... Is she a pyromaniac?
@@perr0263 maybe thats just how she likes killing him I mean her name is salem and in the salem witch trials they burned the witches
This song really hammered in how bad the heroes lost. I mean they fucking *lost* it wasn't even close. People's trust in higher ups has been put in doubt. Beacon has been overrun and destroyed. Yang looks like a bloodthirsty psychopath and Pyrrha straight up killed someone. The truth of Penny being a robot was exposed. Cinder gained the full power of the fall maiden. ATLAS lost almost all their mechs and robots, and ATLAS looks like they slaughtered civilians. The CCT system was destroyed, making international communication and travel nigh impossible. Penny Ozpin and Pyrrha all died, and they're some of the strongest heroes in the series. Weiss was taken away from the fight by her father. Blake ran away and lost the will to fight. Yang lost her arm effectively crippling her and she lost her fighting spirit. And what did the villains lose? Roman, who is almost a non-factor compared to any of Salem's other allies. Aside from Ruby's Silver eyes, *everything* went perfectly according to plan, and that is horrifying. This song is the icing on the cake hammering in how fucked the situation is for the heroes now.
All of this is part of what makes volume 3 the best one, and one of my favorite arcs in fiction.
Armed and Ready Yang Xiao Long This is a big what if, but what if Salem already knew about Ruby and her silver eyes and just left everyone else in the dark?
Evan Sayers Hazel: "We've dealt with her kind before. How is it that a novice was able to best one of us?" Seems like they're not that surprised.
Rogue Pylon Like I said, big what if
Evan Sayers salem didn't know she had them, if she had she would've warned cinder in order to preserve her strength. rehabilitation is hard and costly, much easier to keep their newly forged maiden healthy. she does know about ruby though and has for a long time known that ozpin would rely on his "smaller, simpler soul".
the reason they're not concerned is because silver-eyes don't work on normal people. ruby will have to fight salem's team with her skill, and they're all decades ahead of her there. this isn't a fight she can win alone, and there's nothing salem is better at than separating teams and cutting them down one by one.
With my name being Roman, that hurt! I really liked the guy!
I feel like Salem is saying this to Ozpin. Like really, "Have you no shame? Signing them up for your war. Train them to fight what they can't beat. Your sins are what they'll pay for."
That's precisely what it's supposed to be.
Yeah it's basically a "Reason You Suck" Speech in song form. Given to Ozpin by Salem.
Now we just need a "world of cardboard" speech from Ruby by the end of it all.
Do you think we'll get an episode detailing exactly what it is Ozpin did that royally pissed Salem off. having angered a few women in my day, this isn't just some basic buwahaha I'm evil so I do evil schemes, deal. this just screams extremely personal vendetta.
Future Ruler the entire song is sung from Salem's perspective
Honestly the more I listen to this song the more I want to hear Salem's backstory and get to know her. I mean sure she seems evil but she's also interesting. Her world view seems unnecessarily dark and she seems to blame Ozpin for everything. I really want to see them both in Volume 4 and get more backstory.
There's also an interesting strain of self-righteousness in her song; she seems to be associating hope, not with victory, but cruel manipulation and suffering. What made her think that way?
Alyssa Agnew also he knew Hazel as well. That's very interesting.
Maybe Ozpin is the person who gave the maidens their powers, and at some point, they all grew to dislike him at least, Cinder's line when she goes up against Ozpin could be because of that, and not because of Salem, or both
As long as Salems back story isn't just "Created by that dark guy so they're evil" I'll be glad for anything.
geekgoddess2.0 Come on this is written by Matt and monty... soooooo.... prepare to feel that snoke scene a second time, yep I'm calling it cinder is going to incinerate salem.
This song puts every Disney villain song to shame.
Definitely. Just think of the video you could come up with for this song. Disneyfied it'd be incredible
#lowkeychallenginganimators
You fucking wish m8
bill thou
Alex Thomas nothing can beat Bill Cipher's scrapped song, it just fits the dorito too much
Anybody else listening to this song after what we found out in Volume 6, Chapter 3?
Because My God, knowing what we know now completely changes the meaning and even message of this song so goddamn much. One of many reasons why RWBY's soundtrack is absolute brilliance.
You mean better than the actual show in every way? Cuz thats what it somehow does in a SONG(something the new writers of rwby failed to do in literal VOLUMES)
Specifically, it rubs in how absolutely insane Salem is, and how badly she overreacted.
The only thing Ozma/Ozpin did wrong was forget one of the cardinal Bro Code rules: Never put your d*** in crazy.
I searched "RWBY Jinn's Theme" on UA-cam. This song was the first result. Coincidence?
AND I THOUGHT CINDER WAS EVIL
Jonnie Cunningham never have you been so wrong
Jonnie Cunningham "there's always a bigger fish" -Qui Gon Jinn
I've never seen a more accurate example of that quote lol
But then who's bigger than salem?...
Kurokami The god of darkness?
Who's bigger than the god of darkness?
So Ozpin is clearly the Wizard, Glenda the Good Witch, and Salem the Wicked Witch of the West. I wonder how close to the story they'll go.
so do i get a bucket of water or would she be the one you have to drop a house on to kill her?
blackvial its simple really the school will turn into a BFG an blow her away
Likefunny Likeme3542 $20 SAYS WE ALREADY HAVE HER.
aka Ruby
No, Ruby is little red riding hood
Hooded Hero 007 Who's to say she can't be based on both?
It feels like Salem is saying, "Attention all legendary villains. Sauron, Voldemort, Aizen, Freiza, Madara, and more. Step aside and let me show you how it's done."
hahaha it just like "you all need to see how it's done. maybe then, you'll see what a true villan is"
Yep, she's pretty much saying "step aside you basic bitches. I'll show you how a real villain does this job right." XD
at least she's doing what she said she would do. beacon's in ruin, nobody trusts the atlas military, huntsmen and huntresses have fallen, the tower has fallen, shits going down.
Monty Oum loved stories, and using elements from other stories to inspire his characters. He was also familiar with Final Fantasy. I wonder if Salem is inspired by Kefka. Salem has done everything she said she will. Kefka didn't just threaten to destroy the world, he followed thru. And so far, Salem seems to be following a similar pattern.
Hrm, I'm not sure Salem was inspired by Kefka per se; he wanted to destroy the world through overwhelming power, whereas Salem seems to be striving to make humanity destroy itself, just to demonstrate what a fool Ozpin was to place his faith in them. And she's going about it so meticulously that nary a soul realizes what's going on, we're talking about Sith Lord style evil here, much like Palpatine in his prime. This is a very diabolical foe, truly worthy to be the villain in Monty's story, I'm a bit frightened to think what her next move will be, but I know it'll come, soon.
Just what the hell did Ozpin do?
Had to be something pretty bad to cause salem to want to burn that bad.
Sebastien Emeric They slept together and Oz dipped out! Then Cinder was born
From the song itself, it looks like Salem seems to view the very act of Ozpin giving people hope as some dark deed of immense cruelty.
Nothing really, Salem is just the worst kind of narcissist.
coolclaytony Well we don't know that.
Nothing says, "good morning, world!" Like a heavy dose of evil!
Sable Branwen sameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!😟
I now want an episode of Ozpin and Salems past
1 year later OOO FINALY
Meh
We ALL want.
You are getting that dude.
ITS HERE!
Wish granted
Salem is the villain I have been the most scared of in a while. You can just feel her burning anger and hatred in this song. She's frighteningly dead set on just watching humanity crumble and making Ozpin pay for what he's done. I'm so pumped for Volume 4 but also super scared for what's in store.
Frankly, from everything I've seen. The only thing Ozpin has ever done to Salem is deny her what she thinks is rightfully hers.
O_O
Dude I feel you she is livet with rage and spite it's fucking frightening how she's going about it
How about for volume 6?
Hey volume 6 though backstory chapter 3 check it out
*Salem:* (Sings her villain song on stage and then turns to The Disney villains in the gallery) "Well, how'd you like?"
*Disney Villains Minus the Horned King:* (One terrified squeak in response. The Horned King however merely claps.)
*Salem:* "What? Aren't villains songs supposed to be about our dark ambitions?"
*Jafar:* (musters his courage) "Madame, I'm a power-hungry madman who literally had a whole kingdom bowing before me while I humiliated the rightful Sultan and nearly raped his daughter, and I only have this to day... Madame, you all kinds of twisted and foul, and not in the good way."
*The Horned King:* "Pfft! Wimps!"
*Bill raises his hand* I technically count as a Disney villain. Everyone keeps forgetting that. Anyway...I've done more horrible things than you could imagine. I tortured an entire town for 4 days with all the horrors of the multiverse. I've driven a man to pure madness without even trying. The only reason I lost was because of someone tricking me at the last moment and a dumb unicorn.
AbsolX Guardian
Gravity Falls reference, right?
ElvenRaptor Yup!
AbsolX Guardian
So Bill and The Horned King would love the song, then!
Do'nt forget Frollo from "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" who was xenophobic, racist, sexually assaulted, lusted for, and committed arson for Esmeralda, and so on.
I just realized that when Salem entered the room in the first episode of volume 4, a slow instrumental of this song played in the background. :o
I've known that ever since I first saw that episode.
yes, you're the most important one around here.
Topic change aside.
Kylana Pretty much every time Salem is onscreen the leitmotif of Divide can be heard somewhere.
A version like that (might have even been the same version) also played during the credits for one of the episodes in Volume 7, the one right before everything went to shit for the good guys.
Excuse me while I listen to this song while conquering the world
Shinigami's Shadow I'd rather listen to lusus naturae
Guass Hog I know they're both AMAZING
me too
Shao Kahn is that you?
*the inquisition would like to know your location*
*yes*
*or*
*yes*
I love RWBY's score because it paints a portrait of each character perfectly.
I Burn shows the flame inside of Yang, Mirror mirror shows the diffiicult life of abuse that Weis had with her father, From Shadows shows the prejudice that she suffered for being different, Red like Roses shows the grief that Ruby has for "losing" her mother. This soundtrack is different from all of those. It doenst paint the image of a human being with flaws and virtues. It paints the image of a psychopath that will do anything to get what she wants. It shows the vile and selfish ways of a sick murderer: Salem.
And that's why RWBY's score fucking rules.
Indeed my man, indeed.
Divide and I May Fall also turn all the symbolism from the heroic songs upside down. One can burn with passion, or burn the world. Shattering the mirror is bad luck no matter what's on the other side. You can rise from shadows, only to fall. Maybe red's like roses, maybe it's the *pool of blood.*
I searched "RWBY Jinn's Theme" on UA-cam. This song was the first result. Coincidence?
THAT is how you do a villain song
V6 Spoiler
I now get what it means at 3:30
“And I’ll watch you burn.”
She already burned him alive before, so maybe she wants to do it again
This song is literally predicating V6
I love this show
Cinder also burned him. Villans take turns to burn Oz over and over again.
San Nico thats true I never thought of that
"Train them to fight what they can't beat" is way more accurate with the last chapter now than before.
"when you'll get what you've earned and i'll watch you burn" This part made me think of Yang's theme "I get what i want so don't bother and just watch me burn!" probably not a connection but just a little thought i had.
does every character get their own song? I've heard of characters getting their own entrance theme, but this going an extra mile they didn't need too. That's really cool.
most characters do
though some get lumped together
like Mercury and Emerald
or the whole of Team CFVY
I think "Caffeine" was also for Oobleck.
LezzerNet nope caffeine was made for team CFVY
Mr Roboshadow I think he was making a joke about the amount of coffee oobleck drinks
Weiss is on what, 5 songs? (Mirror 1, It's my turn, Mirror 2, This life is mine, Path to isolation)
"Divide them, tear them apart
Sever their trust, it will strangle their heart
Inside them, plant seeds of doubt
Hope will be smothered, they'll turn on each other
"
Who's coming back here after exactly this happening in v7 ch11?
Why do I adore manipulative villains so much? And I'm not talking about idiotic illusionists like that green-haired girl. Lies can be uncovered, and deceit solved. The best way to destroy one's enemy is through psychological warfare. Play upon their fears and doubts, and let their own insecurities do the rest. The best way to destroy a family is to exploit the cracks that are already there. More will form, and eventually the metaphorical glass of harmony will shatter. There's nothing quite as satisfying as watching your enemy ruin their own life.
Lawrence Gist what the fuck did Emerald do to you?
I don't think relying on illusions alone is exactly a good idea.
why win a battle when your enemies can bring you your victory on a silver platter?
Back after Vol 7 ch 11. ... Here we go again
Haha! The same with me.
Same here.. I swear almost every chapter this volume I've had to listen to this afterwards
Psychological warfare, the song.
Yeah.
Back after today's episode...welp, time for this again O,O
Have any one noticed that Salem never included ozpin on the "humanity" group? She always refer to him as something Else
Vasuki Dragon so does the rest of the series. the "aura" world of remnant ends with the sentence "use of aura can make you more than a man" and a still shot of ozpin, just standing there.
ozpin is old, powerful, and using abilities nobody else possesses. to the degree that oscar asking qrow for "his cane back" is the only proof qrow needs that ozpin is back, since nobody else could replicate this feat.
Spoiler warning for V5:
It is actually proven that Ozpin is the Wizard who created the maidens and he is forced to be reeincarnated everytime he dies as a punishment by the gods.
Volume 6, baby
Volume 6 amiright
It's great watching all this old content after Vol.6. Now everything makes sense.
Disney Villans Step aside.
Cinder step aside.
The Master step aside.
Trancy Household step aside.
Team Rocket step aside.
The Dark Brotherhood step aside.
There's a new bad ass villan in town.
Flower Covered Failure Team Rocket blast off...
XD
When has team rocket ever been a real evil team, sure, steal pokemon, be foiled and blast off again, the TRio would be better good guys considering how they are to their pokemon and how they risked their lives to help on occasion
even bill cipher?
@@spark9189 even bill cipher.