IV: Virtuosity and Tempo

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  • Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
  • Are fast tempi really the main goal of romantic virtuosity?
    Segment IV of Bernhard's introduction to his rendition of Franz Liszt's Piano Sonata in B minor.
    Watch Bernhard's rendition of Liszt's Piano Sonata: • Franz Liszt: Piano Son...
    Watch Bernhard's full introduction to Liszt's Piano Sonata: • Introduction to Franz ...
    Volume IX of the A Tempo Project:
    LISZT A TEMPO III
    Franz Liszt: Piano Sonata in B minor
    Recorded and filmed at Stadtcasino Basel, Switzerland
    With English and German Introductions
    www.bernhardru...
    The entire A TEMPO PROJECT: • First Things First: MU...
    VOL VIII: SCHUBERT A TEMPO: Piano Sonata in C minor D958.
    • Franz Schubert: Piano ...
    VOL VII: BEETHOVEN A TEMPO III: Three Piano Sonatas.
    • Beethoven: Three Piano...
    VOL VI: BEETHOVEN A TEMPO II: Hammerklavier-Sonata Opus 106. • Ludwig van Beethoven: ...
    VOL V: LISZT A TEMPO II: • Franz Liszt: Années de...
    VOL. IV: CHOPIN A TEMPO: • Chopin - Etudes Opus 10
    VOL. III: SCHUMANN A TEMPO: • Bernhard Ruchti - Schu...
    VOL. II: LISZT A TEMPO I: • Franz Liszt - The A Te...
    VOL. I: BEETHOVEN A TEMPO I: • Beethoven A Tempo
    www.bernhardru...

КОМЕНТАРІ • 16

  • @ep7329
    @ep7329 10 місяців тому +3

    Wie immer: faszinierend.

  • @annikanilsson6152
    @annikanilsson6152 10 місяців тому +3

    Warmest thanks for yet another interesting lecture!

    • @bernhardruchti
      @bernhardruchti  10 місяців тому

      You're very welcome. Thank you for your interest in my work!

  • @thomashughes4859
    @thomashughes4859 10 місяців тому +1

    I've played Beethoven and brought a tear to two ladies, eyes. Thank God I've forgot the need for people to say, "WOW ! Did you see how fast he played"?
    Wonderful video.

    • @bernhardruchti
      @bernhardruchti  10 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for your comment - I appreciate it!

  • @awfulgoodmovies
    @awfulgoodmovies 10 місяців тому +2

    It's taken me 30 years to dump virtuosity and embrace music. Listening to virtuosity is an empty endorphin rush, I'd only listen to the amazing section of a piece. Example: List's Dante Sonata really only has 3 moments that interested me, and I'd play these sections over and over, NEVER listening to the whole work!

    • @geiryvindeskeland7208
      @geiryvindeskeland7208 10 місяців тому

      awfulgoodmovies. It is wrong to criticize the virtuoso. Wim Winters raises the mindless to criticize the virtuoso, for it is important for him to make you believe that nothing was played in fast tempi 200 years ago. Look what people are doing, they criticize the virtuoso, and immediately afterwards they sit down in front of the television to watch sports. Some people run 100 meters under 10 seconds. And what about the female figure skater who spins around her own axis four times, are they criticized by the Wims? No, they are instead admired for their performances. Ut don’t you see the bluff here? Such sporting achievements also belongs to the virtuoso because there are only a few who present such a thing. There are many years of training behind the achievements in elite sport. But this also applies to the virtuoso musicians, but they should be criticized and not admired. The fact that the virtuoso piano music becomes a chaos of notes is not due t the fast tempo! 200 years ago, it was most often played in private homes. The listeners sat close to the instrument and then it easy to perceive the music even in fast tempi. Our modern pianos make it harder to perceive the details of the fastest movements. But the pianists themselves are also quilty of the fuzzy tone, for too many of them show a stronger love for the sustain pedal than for their closest relatives. The human desire to impress is natural, therefore the virtuoso music is as natural as the virtuoso achievements we otherwise praise.
      We must tolerate the virtuoso’ desire to impress, for the composers also gave us a series of slow movements, where the musicians get the opportunity to make music, the virtuoso then gets a break.

    • @bernhardruchti
      @bernhardruchti  10 місяців тому

      Thank you for your comment. Which are the 3 moments of the Dante Sonata that touch you?
      Do you know my rendition of the Dante Sonata? It's part of Liszt A Tempo II: ua-cam.com/video/_03IX7ZGkZo/v-deo.htmlsi=AJb05sjTjoNfbIbP

  • @geiryvindeskeland7208
    @geiryvindeskeland7208 10 місяців тому

    People who aren’t interested in sports still know one or two names from the world of sports. That’s because the cleverest are mentioned the most times. People who are not interested in science nevertheless know one or two names from the world of science, and the explanation is the same - it is the most influential ones that are mentioned most times. Most people don’t listen to classical music, yet they know a few names, of which Chopin is one of them. When kids here on UA-cam, ages 6-12 are playing the erudes from opus 10 and 25 much faster than the double beat theory, WBMP can’t be a music-historical truth. Chopin was about 10 years older than the children, and had 10 more years through practice to reach a virtuoso level. Then it is illogical that Chopin played much slower than the children

    • @94albertoCT
      @94albertoCT 10 місяців тому

      You talk like if it was possible for any children out there to play like that. Those kids are extremely rare.
      You should watch the content of this channel before talking like that.

    • @bernhardruchti
      @bernhardruchti  10 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for your ongoing interest in my publications.
      It is understandable that you connect my work to other publications that deal with the so-called double-beat theory, since it's a similar subject that we talk about. However, I ask you to be aware that I am independent and that I maintain a critical distance to that double-beat theory. For instance, check out the first segment of this introduction: ua-cam.com/video/pE0Ua9H8LGk/v-deo.htmlsi=nCC0KpRCGYrkylP1

    • @geiryvindeskeland7208
      @geiryvindeskeland7208 10 місяців тому

      94albertoCT. You may well be right, I phrased myself badly, I obviously didn’t mean that all chidren play Chopin’s etudes! I got my first piano lesson in 1962, so I get something. Still, I think I have a good point, it’s a logical point, so I repeat: When some kids, 6-12 years old, play Chopin’s etudes much faster than Chopin himself, according to Wim Winters, then it’s impossible to believe, because the claim is llogical. Here is a quote from one of Mendelssohn letters, 1835: «Chopin played his new Etudes to the astonished residents of Leipzig with the speed of lightning».
      I’ve long been familiar with several of Bernhard Ruchti’s videos.

    • @94albertoCT
      @94albertoCT 10 місяців тому

      @@geiryvindeskeland7208 that quote can mean a lot different things than what you think. Speed and specially speed in music can vary a lot to what it means now and then. Sorry for my english.

    • @geiryvindeskeland7208
      @geiryvindeskeland7208 10 місяців тому

      94alberto CT. Your English is good enough for me. So please tell me more about those «different things» thank you.