Christian DEBUNKS The Trinity Himself!
Вставка
- Опубліковано 12 лип 2024
- #Islam #Bobbysperspective #christianity
☕Buy Bobby A Coffee:
www.buymeacoffee.com/bobbyristo
"Logical Problem of The Trinity DEBUNKED"
• Logical Problem of The...
Val Is a Orthodox Christian UA-camr that claims to Debunk the Logical Problem of the Trinity. In reality he debunks the Trinity himself, by taking the Monarchical Trinitarian Stance, which declares that the Father is the King. They will still claim Coequality with the Son of course, but if words have ANY Meaning, then we conclude that a Child would understand that a King is higher than "The Son".
⬇️⬇️⬇️NEW MERCH⬇️⬇️⬇️
www.sacredscripts.org/
REDBUBBLE: www.redbubble.com/people/BPMe...
⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️
Book Umrah & Hajj: purepassage.co/
Become an Affiliate Partner: purepassage.co/affiliates/
JOIN DAWAHGRAM! :
www.dawahgram.com/signup/mKpASp
Consider Supporting Guys! :
New Paypal: contact@halalholdings.org
➡️ Donate via StreamLabs : streamlabs.com/bobbytheprototype
🌐 JOIN PATREON: / bobbysperspective
▶ SUBSCRIBE ON RUMBLE: rumble.com/c/c-1116373
MERCH: my-store-ce242d.creator-sprin...
Book Umrah & Hajj: purepassage.co/
Telegram: t.me/Bobbysperspective
GRASS LAND NUTRITION 10% OFF with code " bobby10"
www.grasslandnutrition.net/?r...
Support my work with :
www.buymeacoffee.com/bobbyristo
Come debate habibi, don’t be a coward. Be a man for once in your life.
@@ValOrthodoxia and don't be a princess and go on his show and debate him yourself
@@Loona-dh3vk he keeps running like a coward.
@ValOrthodoxia LOL, he has been in his show all day and you have a chance to enter and debate him but I ain't seeing you, so how about you stop running coward 😂
@@ValOrthodoxia Haha funny guy you are. Would you act like this face to face?
What I'm gonna say is, Alhamdulillah for Islam.
Alhamdulillah, we can never thank him enough for the blessing of Islam only let alone all the other blessings we enjoy every moment of our lives from the one and only Almighty ALLAH(SWT)
Yeah Alhamdulillah
Yes forever
Lol you can’t believe how low tier this idiot‘s arguments are
Say: He is God, One, God, the Eternal, He did not beget, nor was He born, and there is no one equal to Him
God is one with his eternal spirut and eternal word
The actual Arabic of verse 1 does not say that Allah is One, but literally says Allah is One of. This is due to the word used for one in the sentence, namely ahad. Here is a transliteration of the Arabic text of the Quran: Qul huwa Allahu ahad(un), which literally means: “Say: He, Allah, is one of.” Christian writer and native Arabic-speaker Abdullah Al Araby writes: “The intentional mistranslation of the Quran is a massive subject that needs to be explored and dealt with in a separate thesis. For the purpose of this article we will give just a few examples before zeroing in on the topic of this article. In Sura 112:1 - “Say: He is Allah, the One and Only…” In the original Arabic, the word which was translated “Only” in this verse was actually "One of." The translator couldn't literarily translate it, because it would have implied “shirk” (associating other Deities with Allah). [Source: “Nikah”- The Islamic “N” Word; What Does It Exactly Mean?] A better way of saying this would have been Allahu Al-Ahad, i.e. “he is Allah, the One" or "he, Allah, is the Unique One.”
The Quran’s author could have avoided this confusion and difficulty by writing the verse in this way: Qul huwa Allahu Al-Wahid(un). Which would give us - "Say, he is Allah, the One," or "Say he, Allah, is the One." The author could have even omitted the Arabic definite article, al, and simply have said: Qul huwa Allahu Wahid(un). It is quite interesting to note that, apart from Sura 112:1, ahad is never used in connection to Allah’s unity. The word that is always used in reference to Allah being one is wahid. Furthermore, a statistical analysis of the Quran demonstrates the correctness of Al Araby’s point. Every occurrence of ahad shows that the word means "one of," or refers to a member of a group. It isn’t used to mean one or solitary.
Basically, this means that the Quran contains a gross grammatical mistake that affects the pure monotheism of Islam! How could such an error arise? One possible, and even probable, explanation as to why Muhammad, or the author of the Quran, used the word ahad is because of his interaction with the Jews. Muhammad may have heard the Jewish Shema, the monotheistic creed of faith found in Deuteronomy 6:4, recited which uses the word echad to refer to Yahweh’s unity. In any case, Muslims are in a dilemma. Since the data shows that the literal rendering of Sura 112:1 is that "Allah is one of," the question remains one of what? Is he one of many gods? But this would be a contradiction with other texts from the Quran that say there are no other gods. Is he one of many divine entities who have come together to form a unity (i.e. the literal meaning of the verbal origin of Tauhid)? But this again implies that originally there has been more than one god and therefore contradictory to other Quranic references. It is interesting, though, that the pagans accused Muhammad of doing exactly this, namely making all the gods one God: ‘What! has he made all the gods into one God? This is, indeed, an astounding thing.’ S. 38:5 Sher Ali
@@Edwin38397 you ro know that all arabic grammar is DERIVED from quraan... Right? So please... Get lost. Also the dude in your profile picture is the wrong colour... You might want to fix that before attempting to correct muslims on whats fact.
It's like how Voice of Reason said, "The three persons are distinct, but not separate." He literally just said they're separate but not separate. 🤦♂
Actually worse. He's saying they are separate and not separate at the same time. Contradiction.
@@abdisaeed6883 You said the same thing this commenter said
Distinct by their personal properties (Father is aseity, son is begotten, spirit proceeds)
Inseparable by their natural property (what makes God “God” such Eternality, omnipotence, omniscience etc)
@@abdisaeed6883🤣 come one, you can do better. Distinct not separate.
@@abdisaeed6883Distinct not separate. For example your left hand is distinct from the right hand but they are not separate from your body.
Alhamdulillah for Islam 🥰🥰🥰
No
@@seandashineyes
Romans: "We mixed paganism and monotheism and made Christianity."
The ROMANS Killed Jesus, how does that make sense? LOL
Boy do you need a lesson in history
"Christianity did not destroy paganism; it adopted it."
👍@JesusisaMuslim! One example is CHRISTMAS! Christmas was a pagan fest long before Jesus!!! It has NOTHING to do with Jesus's birth!!! How can 2 billions Christians celebrate this annual PAGAN fest, now totally COMMERCIAL, is incomprehensible! .. The POPE loves it, it's good publicity for naive, ignorant Christians or future Christians who know nothing of the real history, but accept everything blindly in elation to the Trinity!
Agree 100%
100% agree and I'm an eastern european convert. They did this so we early pagans accept Christianity easier. They also did it in case someone stays pagan so their holidays will get replaced by the majority.
Perdikkkas, a problem with my handy, I'll buy a new one. Anyway, to err is human!
Islam only progresses by stupidity.
Mashallah Bobby’s on fire with these consistent uploads just like the good ol’ days 🥲 🙏
How do Messianic Jews (being Christian) make sense of the ONENESS of God in the OT and the ONENESS of the triune God of the NT? How can He still be the same God?
You see, *["ONE"* in Deuteronomy 6:4 in the Hebrew language is *"ECHAD"* /אֶחָד which means a single entity but made up of more than one part *(UNITY/COMPOUND)].*
"ECHAD" is also used in Genesis 2:24 in referring to a husband and wife (who are TWO) leaving their parents and becoming united into “ONE” *(ECHAD)* flesh:
"Therefore shall an ish (husband) leave his av (father) and his em (mother), and shall cleave unto his isha (wife): and they shall be basar *ECHAD* (joined into one flesh). Genesis 2:24
[There is a Hebrew word that means “absolute singularity,” *(YACHID),* but it is never used in the Hebrew Scriptures in reference to God! The Hebrew scriptures never says "God is YACHID"]
Even the Arabic equivalent of echad, *AHAD,* (from which the Islamic Tawhid is derived) means *"one of"* and is usually used to indicate part of a whole. *AHAD does not mean absolute singularity!* All attributes of Allah of the Kaaba, as is the claim, are united with his essence and also united with each other.
Moses was the first to write about the supernatural occurrence of God being on earth and being in heaven at the same moment (when God had come down as a man to Abraham and Lot (Genesis 18-19) to see to the repentance of Sodom and Gomorrah:
Genesis (Bereshis) 19:24
'Then Hashem *(the LORD)* rained upon Sodom and upon Amora gofrit and eish (fire and brimstone) from Hashem *(the LORD)* out of Shomayim (Heaven)'.
Wow! This is Torah!
So God is a *unity* of *one* God.
What has this got to do with Jesus?
Jesus confirmed (Mark12:29) the OT teaching that God is ONE.
"Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is *ONE."* (Deuteronomy 6:4)
Jesus also declares in his own words: "I and the Father are *ONE”* (John 10:30, John 14:8-9). In the OT (Psalms 95:6-7) God is the *Shepherd* and believers are the *sheep* in his *hand* who hear his *voice.* Jesus was also declaring (John 10:26-29), like God, to be the *Shepherd* and believers who hear his *voice* are like *sheep* in his *hand.* This led the Jews to attempt to stone Jesus for his obvious claim to be God! Jesus even said he was the *good Shepherd* (John 10:11) who lays down his life for his sheep.
Beloved Muslim, the ONENESS of the true God of Israel (the God of the previous scriptures) is different from the ONENESS (Tawhid/monotheism) of Allah of the Qur’an. They are not the same being, despite Allah of the Qur'an's claim to be same God of the previous scriptures (QS 29:46)! Allah of the Qur’an is a 7th century false god!
The OT and NT are harmonious in revealing the three persons of the ONE God:
The *FATHER* (Deuteronomy 32:6,
Isaiah 63:16, Isaiah 64:8 and Jeremiah 31:9)
The *SON* (Genesis 49:10, 1 Chronicles 17:11-15, Daniel 7:13-14, Isaiah 9:1-7, Luke 1:31-33)
The *Holy Spirit* (Numbers 11:17, 25-29 Psalms 104:29-30, Acts 2:1-6)
Beloved Muslims, leave the false God of Islam for you will surely perish. Blessings!
@SherifDewidar How do Messianic Jews (being Christian) make sense of the *ONENESS* of God in the OT and the ONENESS of the triune God of the NT? How can He still be the same God?
You see, *["ONE"* in Deuteronomy 6:4 in the Hebrew language is *"ECHAD"* /אֶחָד which means a single entity but made up of more than one part *(UNITY/COMPOUND)].*
"ECHAD" is also used in Genesis 2:24 in referring to a husband and wife (who are TWO) leaving their parents and becoming united into “ONE” *(ECHAD)* flesh:
Genesis 2:24
"Therefore shall an ish (husband) leave his av (father) and his em (mother), and shall cleave unto his isha (wife): and they shall be basar *ECHAD* (joined into one flesh).
[There is a Hebrew word that means “absolute singularity,” *(YACHID),* but it is never used in the Hebrew Scriptures in reference to God! The Hebrew scriptures never says "God is YACHID"]
Even the Arabic equivalent of echad, *AHAD,* (from which the Islamic Tawhid is derived) means *"one of"* and is usually used to indicate part of a whole. *AHAD does not mean absolute singularity!* All attributes of Allah of the Kaaba, as is the claim, are united with his essence and also united with each other.
Moses was the first to write about the supernatural occurrence of God being on earth and being in heaven at the same moment (when God had come down as a man to Abraham and Lot (Genesis 18-19) to see to the repentance of Sodom and Gomorrah:
Genesis (Bereshis) 19:24
'Then Hashem *(the LORD)* rained upon Sodom and upon Amora gofrit and eish (fire and brimstone) from Hashem *(the LORD)* out of Shomayim (Heaven)'.
Wow! This is Torah!
So God is a *unity* of *one* God.
What has this got to do with Jesus?
Jesus confirmed (Mark12:29) the OT teaching that God is ONE.
"Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is *ONE."* (Deuteronomy 6:4)
Jesus also declares in his own words: "I and the Father are *ONE”* (John 10:30, John 14:8-9). In the OT (Psalms 95:6-7) God is the *Shepherd* and believers are the *sheep* in his *hand* who hear his *voice.* Jesus was also declaring (John 10:26-29), like God, to be the *Shepherd* and believers who hear his *voice* are like *sheep* in his *hand.* This led the Jews to attempt to stone Jesus for his obvious claim to be God! Jesus even said he was the *good Shepherd* (John 10:11) who lays down his life for his sheep.
Beloved Muslim, the ONENESS of the true God of Israel (the God of the previous scriptures) is different from the ONENESS (Tawhid/monotheism) of Allah of the Qur’an. They are not the same being, despite Allah of the Qur'an's claim to be same God of the previous scriptures (QS 29:46)! Allah of the Qur’an is a 7th century false god!
The OT and NT are harmonious in revealing the three persons of the ONE God:
The *FATHER* (Deuteronomy 32:6,
Isaiah 63:16, Isaiah 64:8 and Jeremiah 31:9)
The *SON* (Genesis 49:10, 1 Chronicles 17:11-15, Daniel 7:13-14, Isaiah 9:1-7, Luke 1:31-33)
The *Holy Spirit* (Numbers 11:17, 25-29 Psalms 104:29-30, Acts 2:1-6)
Beloved Muslims, leave the false God of Islam for you will surely perish. Blessings!
Love your content and also I really appreciate the fact that you haven’t deleted your older videos. It’s nice to see your transformation. I’ve been on a very similar journey - was about to even go as far as trying psychedelics to find out the meaning of life 😅 but I’m glad I didn’t and I found Islam instead to guide me to the Truth.
Alhamdulillah, all praise to the one and only Almighty who found you lost and guided you :)
Thank you Bobby for your efforts to share all your knowledge. May God reward you🙏🤍
LIFE WITHOUT ISLAM IS MEANINGLESS, ALHAMDULILLAH FOR THE BLESSING OF ISLAM
Jesus peace be upon him never preached Trinity........
I no longer approach christians with any attempt at debate or dialogue. I just give them the message of tauheed. End of story. Then I walk away.
It's futile to talk to a Christian, brainwashed since birth by the naughty priests drinking wine during the mass, surrounded by statues, idols, paintings and constant fairy tales, far from realities! The Christian theologians are also doing a manipulating job brainwashing these kids!😮
Tawheed means unificiation, are you knowledgable enough to tell me tawheed of what?
@@Convertier بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَٰنِ الرَّحِيمِ
اللہ کے نام سے شروع جو نہایت مہربان ہمیشہ رحم فرمانے والا ہے
In the Name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Ever-Merciful
___________________________________________________________
قُلْ هُوَ اللّٰهُ اَحَدٌۚ
(al-Ikhlas, 112 : 1)
(O Esteemed Messenger!) Proclaim: ‘He is Allah, Who is the One.
(اے نبئ مکرّم!) آپ فرما دیجئے: وہ اللہ ہے جو یکتا ہے
___________________________________________________________
اَللّٰهُ الصَّمَدُۚ
(al-Ikhlas, 112 : 2)
Allah is the Transcendent of all, the Protector and Far-Superior to all.
اللہ سب سے بے نیاز، سب کی پناہ اور سب پر فائق ہے
___________________________________________________________
لَمْ یَلِدْ ۙ۬ وَ لَمْ یُوْلَدْۙ
(al-Ikhlas, 112 : 3)
He has not begotten any, nor is He begotten.
نہ اس سے کوئی پیدا ہوا ہے اور نہ ہی وہ پیدا کیا گیا ہے
___________________________________________________________
وَ لَمْ یَكُنْ لَّهٗ كُفُوًا اَحَدٌ۠
(al-Ikhlas, 112 : 4)
Nor is there anyone equal to Him.’
اور نہ ہی اس کا کوئی ہمسر ہے
___________________________________________________________
Taken from: irfan-ul-quran.com/english/Surah-al-Ikhlas-with-english-translation
The above chapter titled ikhlas, sincerity, is the summary of tauheed. The absolute singular character of God. He is nothing like His creation. Everyone and everything depends upon Him. He has neither father nor son. No one can be compared to Him.
When the pagans say “Trinity is a mystery”, then you know they are ‘trained and programmed’ to use that as an excuse to not explain it.
Or maybe it’s just true. Unlike Jesus being a Muslim.
TRINITY, a curse in disguise for Christianity? By adopting Paul's Trinity, Christianity created its own DOOM! That's the reality!
@@GringoXavier
Christianity is false. My channel debunks Christianity and that pagan trinity
@@GringoXavier the mystery is true.
-Said no one ever
@@GringoXavierthose who say the trinity is a mystery just say so because they can’t make sense of it. It’s logically incoherent, so they leave the issue as a mystery instead of admitting the fault.
I'm glad I subscribed to Bobby, Sandy, & Mark. 👍
But I'm only 1 Being.
@@TheBobbysPerspective 😂
@@TheBobbysPerspectivelooks like cherry picking is found in Islam no problem. Hebrews 1:8 (KJV) But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.Revelation 1:8 (KJV) I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.2 Peter 1:1 (KJV) Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:Titus 2:13 (KJV) Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;Philippians 2:6-8 (KJV) Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.John 20:28 (KJV) And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.1 Timothy 3:16 (KJV) And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.John 10:30 (KJV) I and my Father are one.Exodus 3:14 (KJV) And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.John 8:58 (KJV) Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
P.s God the Father is calling Jesus God.
Hebrews 1:10 (KJV) And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:.
The 'Slave Bible' was a highly edited Bible produced in 1807 in London for use by African slaves. Two are held in the United Kingdom, and one is currently on view at the Museum of the Bible in Washington, D.C.
Love your videos Bobby! Thank you for all you do.
Thank you for your support bro
@@TheBobbysPerspectiveby your logic because a wife is lesser than her husband in nature as well. That's not the case, just because The Father is greater than the Son and the Holy Spirit in role doesn't mean that they are lesser in nature, but hey fallacious arguments are common in Islam.
i hope you doing great brother bobby ❤
Great video Uncle Bobby!
Bobby, you're the man. Keep doing what you are doing. Much Love ❣
Love your videos Bobby❤❤
My brother Bobby it’s so good to see you back to better health Alhamdulillah ☝🏽
Thanks!
Thank you for your support bro
And that issue with the so called Trinity was one of the triggers for me to look into Islam. Alhamdulillah
It should be the very first thing the Christians needs to consider to pick up the Quran & look into Islam.
And from those who say, “We are Christians,” We took their covenant, but they neglected a portion of what they had been commanded to uphold. (To worship none but one God) So We let hostility and enmity arise between them until the Day of Judgment, and soon Allah will inform them of all they have done.
-Surah Al-Māʾidah, Ayah 14
Mark 12:29
[29]“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord OUR God, the Lord is ONE.
There is no Trinity in that verse , they completely ignore the big elephant in the room.
Not only that , they don't really follow teachings of God & Jesus.
Genesis 17:13-14
[13] Whether born in your household or bought with your money, they MUST be circumcised. My covenant in your flesh is to be an EVERLASTING covenant.
[14] Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has BROKEN my covenant.”
It was an EVERLASTING covenant , even Jesus was circumcised.
Luke 2:21
[21] On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise the child, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he was conceived.
Let's see what The Gospel have to say :
1 John 2:4,6
[4] Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person.
[6] Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did.
Well Jesus was circumcised , and yet :
Galatians 5:2
[2] Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all.
Now it's not even an obligation in Christianity.
Jesus never eat pork , yet most are pig eaters.
It's Allah SWT , Abraham , Moses , Jesus & Muhammad peace be upon them all VS Paul of Tarsus.
And they chose to follow Paul instead.
So what about tawheed of Allah? Tawheed = unificiation. Unification of what?
@@Convertier Do not confuse yourself.
Tawhid is the concept of monotheism in Islam. Tawhid is the religion's central and single most important concept, upon which a Muslim's entire religious adherence rests. It unequivocally holds that God is indivisibly one and single. Tawhid constitutes the foremost article of the Muslim profession of submission.
@@AbelOktavian is it me or do you contradict yourself? Or did you just answer without giving an answer?
Clean analysis❤
Jazak Allah khairan
Tawheed means unificiation. Unification of what? Judaism, Christianity, zoroastroism, Greek mythology?
Tawhid (Arabic تَوْحِيد ) not means unificiation. Tawhid is that God is indivisibly one, unique and incomparable (ahad) and single (wahid).
@@D2012er can you prove it? When i search on google translate arabic to english, why does it say "unification/consolidation"?
You are all lying doing taqiyya its looking kinda crazy i have to admit, and very desperate to deny something that is a clear word with one simple search.
Anyways, keep lying and you do you. May the Messiah bless you in this life, since he is your judge for the afterlife.
Hadith 4:658 Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said "How will you be when the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you and he will judge people by the Law of the Quran and not by the law of Gospel (Fateh-ul Bari page 304 and 305 Vol 7)
Sahih Bukhari 4:657 Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, surely (Jesus,) the son of Mary will soon descend amongst you and will judge mankind justly (as a Just Ruler); he will break the Cross and kill the pigs and there will be no Jizya (i.e. taxation taken from non Muslims). Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it, and a single prostration to Allah (in prayer) will be better than the whole world and whatever is in it."
ONLY GOD CAN AND WILL JUDGE.
@@D2012er when i search on google translate it says Tawheed = unification/consolidation. Without lies islam dies!
Assalamualaikom brother bobby
Wa Aleykum assalam
Trinity is a totally man made concept. Jesus NEVER preached the Trinity. "Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent" John 17.3. Jesus says fathe is the only True God. Thus, jesus is not GOD!
Read next verse father glorify your son son may glorufy you the glory with you together before the world was
@@johncena-cd9krSeriously , is only means only in English ? Is only means only in your language ?
Mark 12:29
[29]“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord OUR God, the Lord is ONE.
Is our means our in English ? Is our means our in your language ? If yes then he just said he himself has a God.
God is One , it is the most important teaching according to Jesus himself , not one in three nor three in one .
You completely ignore the big elephant in the room.
Psalms 2:7
[7] I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
King David is called the 'begotten' son of god in the Bible , why don't you worship David instead ?
And from those who say, “We are Christians,” We took their covenant, but they neglected a portion of what they had been commanded to uphold. So We let hostility and enmity arise between them until the Day of Judgment, and soon Allah will inform them of all they have done.
-Surah Al-Māʾidah, Ayah 14
You were commanded to worship none but one God & what did you do ? You worship Jesus instead 👏
@@johncena-cd9krIsaiah 44:6
[6] Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and BESIDE ME THERE IS NO GOD.
Now tell the Jews there is another two person to be added , let's see if they would believe you or not.
Bible is the worst enemy of Christianity , not the Muslims or the Quran.
@@johncena-cd9krI dont see anywhere there to stating that jesus is god.
Totally does not make any sense at all.🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
You’re braindead if you think the trinity is a man made concept, if it how come no one would’ve guessed God is 3 distinct hypostasis in one essence? Also you’re more braindead if you quote the Bible thinking it will fit your Islamic narrative. Why don’t you read the next and previous verses too? And find out that Allah is not the Father of the Bible.
God chooses the person who wants God and loves Him
and that is the generous and kind soul. God guides him to Islam then he will be with God and close to Him in Paradise.
If Jesus is immortal than he can not die by definition which means Christians are not saved and there’s no salvation and if he is mortal than he can not be God since God can not die
They would argue thats the "human" jesus.
@@gongkong-oi7qx if the human Jesus( mortal) is not Jesus ( the immortal ) the Jesus the Immortal didn’t die for their sins so nothing Changes
The very fact that we try to use our human knowledge to fathom the trinity is insanity in its self....
You who can't even understand how he created everything and yet you think you can just come up with a complete explanation of his existence...
I am a Christian and I believe that Jesus is God and that he died on the cross for all of humanities sins...
For if you read genesis the creation of all on the 6th day God said let "us" create man in our image and in our likeness for the God... that should show that we where created in God's image and his likeness but we deviated from his likeness wen the first 2 humans ate of the tree of knowledge due to use think we can have the same authority and power after been deceived...
Now let's talk about the trinity, Let's look at us humans for we know of our physical presentation which is our bodies and we all believe we have a soul that is our more like our immortal being note that though immortal it can't survive the Lord's wrath and we all believe that we have a spirit that as Christian I believe connects me to God, so we have 3 things 1+1+1 as someone joke about... so in the trinity we have God the father, God the son who came as the physical representation of God remember that God created us in his likeness that means our behavior if we didn't eat of the fruit would have been of no sin and Jesus was birthed without the original sin lived a life sinless died for a sinner like me and you and was accused of claiming to be king of the Jews meaning the authority he showed that rivaled that of a king and read exodus 3:14 where moses asked what he should say to the isrealities of who has sent him and also read John 8:58 that will give you a context of his divinity... when it comes to the Holy spirit read Mathew 12:31 to 32 that should show you how significant the Holy spirit.
Now someone will say oh the bible is corrupted its not corrupted cause of the fact that muhammad believed that all previous revelation are the words of God and Muslims believe that word of God cannot be corrupted, so I think my Bible is right and the very fact that Jesus was born of a virgin, lived a sinless life, crucified and resurrected after 3 days should and ascended to heaven after 40 days of his resurrection. I would rather believe in the bible and Jesus that a man who didn't even know if his going to heaven or not.
Now word of advice read the bible both the new and old testament before you start judging things you know little to nothing of
@@gongkong-oi7qx no they would say Jesus doesn't switch personas cuz it's modalism. He was fully god and fully man according to them so he was fully god and fully man when he was allegedly crucified. Fully god fully man when he didn't know the hour. Fully god fully man when he prayed to himself?? Fully god fully man when he didn't know the season for figs and so on. Seems like jesus's human nature beats his "divine" every time 🤣😂
@@gabrielmunanjala7446 I agree with you we can't understand God with our finite minds but that's only applicable if the Trinity IS mentioned in the bible and not just a later development which it isn't. In fact we find the opposite the bible is so inconsistent with the Trinity. You can't make up a completely illogical self contradictory belief and say "oh we can't fully understand God"
Added to my playlist: Refuting Nonsense!
May Allah reward you!
Sorry brother, but he didn't refute anything. He merely applied human logics to describe the nature of God, even though, you Muslims yourselves, say that God can hardly be described with human logics, since he exists on a higher level
This is not meant to offend you, but we need to be real here when discussing
@@richterbelmont04 lol god gave us logic to know him not to say we can't understand you god
@@richterbelmont04 Brother if you watched the video, the Christian is clearly claiming that the trinity is logically coherent. So, you can't even use that excuse here, with all due respect.
@steven, you must buy some new pot from the gift shop for your next trip!😂
@@verity4917 so you believe 3=1 yet you say I'm the one smoking pot? Lmao 💀
❤Masha ALLAH❤ Keep it Up brother
Thanks very very
Bobby can you make videos debunking other false religions as well ? It will add to the content of your channel
Using the words father and son is already in itself a form of hierarchy
The bible is full of hierarchy if you read it on your own without the intervention of church's philosophy
There's no way you wouldn't see the clear and repeated hierarchy between the son and the father
Therefore monarchical trinitarianism
Religion must be a relief for people who want to know their creator and understand their sense of life.
God is one and everything else is a creation, simple and make sense.
Masha Allah I like bobbys perspective Alhamdulillah
“They [think to] deceive Allah and those believe, but they deceive not except themselves and perceive [it] not.
-
In their hearts is disease, so Allah has increased their disease; and for them is a painful punishment because they [habitually] used to lie.
-
And when it is said to them, "Do not cause corruption on the earth," they say, "We are but reformers."
-
Unquestionably, it is they who are the corrupters, but they perceive [it] not.
-
And when it is said to them, "Believe as the people have believed," they say, "Should we believe as the foolish have believed?" Unquestionably, it is they who are the foolish, but they know [it] not.
-
And when they meet those who believe, they say, "We believe"; but when they are alone with their evil ones, they say, "Indeed, we are with you; we were only mockers."
-
[But] Allah mocks them and prolongs them in their transgression [while] they wander blindly.
-
Those are the ones who have purchased error [in exchange] for guidance, so their transaction has brought no profit, nor were they guided.
-
Their example is that of one who kindled a fire, but when it illuminated what was around him, Allah took away their light and left them in darkness [so] they could not see.
-
Deaf, dumb and blind - so they will not return [to the right path].” (Quran 2:9-18)
“They will not fight you all except within fortified cities or from behind walls. Their violence among themselves is severe. You think they are together, but their hearts are diverse. That is because they are a people who do not reason.”(Quran 59:14)
“And never think that Allah is unaware of what the wrongdoers do. He only delays them for a Day when eyes will stare [in horror].”(Quran 14:42)
“Let them, then, laugh little, and weep much at the contemplation of the punishment for the evil they have committed.” (Quran 9:82)
“But they plan, and Allah plans. And Allah is the best of planners.”(Quran 8:30)
Allah's plans always prevail in perfect timings and quantity over the man's planning. One should realize that there won't be any storm that Allah won't carry His man through. But for that one's faith needs to be greater than his fear.
“Sufficient for us is Allah, and [He is] the best Disposer of affairs.”
You have the watches, we have the time!
Gazauschwitz/Nakba 1948
Truth🇵🇸✊🏻🇮🇪Justice
Nakba 2023/GazaHolocaust
#GazaGenocide #DismantleApartheid
MashAllah tabarak sir as always your video is very interesting well says amazing job 👍👌👍👌may Almighty ALLAH Bless you always and protect u always 🤲🤲🤲all the best 👍👌👍❤❤❤❤🙏
Qur'an 109:1-6. 1. Say, "O disbelievers,
2. I do not worship what you worship
3. Nor are you worshippers of what I worship.
4. Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship.
5. Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship.
6. For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."
Salama alaikum brother Bobby are you still opening a discord? Inshallah may allah guide uz
Ahhh this is going to be too easy😂
yeah good luck buddy, indulge in your illogical arguments....
Yea ok we know what you going to say. Same old stuffs that make no sense in order to make yourself happy. If you think you are smart, think again because you are not !!!
JESUS IS LORD.
@@loma3569I already responded to this in the coments. If you want to respond to me check in the newest comments.
Seen your Stream you cooked him.
What happens if it's a double yolk eggs ? 🤔
And from those who say, “We are Christians,” We took their covenant, but they neglected a portion of what they had been commanded to uphold. So We let hostility and enmity arise between them until the Day of Judgment, and soon Allah will inform them of all they have done.
-Surah Al-Māʾidah, Ayah 14
Mark 12:29
[29]“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord OUR God, the Lord is ONE.
im not christian, but 1 explanation i guess everyone can agree on is if someone says god is all powerful and there is nothing he cannot do. "be and it is" but you can slap this on any side's defense lol.
also i dont believe god would reveal anything to us that we could not comprehend, so i dont believe in the trinity
He debunked himself before he even opened his mouth 😂😂😂
“Debunked” 😂
@@ValOrthodoxia bro is hiding in the comments😭😭😭(hellow, how are you?😭
@@luigi64gamer19 hiding? lol I left a comment asking for a debate and he ran like a coward. Low iq 😂
@ValOrthodoxia LOL, he isn't online yet, so be patient or email him for a debate bozo.
@@Loona-dh3vk he’s ignored all my requests. The fact I’m even offering a debate should be an honor to him because he’s an uneducated layman, I’m a scholar.
I love Jesus, even though I'm no longer Christian. The things they believe in like the trinity and God needing a human sacrifice / blood for forgive sins it's extremely pagan in nature. God is merciful, and I believe will forgive them for their ignorance.
It's easy to poke holes in his reasoning. If God is a Trinity and the Father is God then is the Father a Trinity? His reconciliation is right out the window.
Alhamdulillah for Islam.
Assalamu alykum. Many prophet one message channel dropped another banger on the prophecy series.You should check the part two out.
It is a disease of the heart.
Ask 500 Christians about the Trinity and you will get 500 different explanations.
And? Whats the issue here? Even if all 2 billion Christians were illiterate that says nothing about the doctrine.
@@NathanWoyessa
Christianity is false. My channel debunks Christianity and that pagan trinity.
@@JesusisaMuslim You couldn't even provide a rebuttal to your own copy pasted comment. I don't expect anything unique or worth my time from you.
@@NathanWoyessa
Your just frustrated. Christianity is a white man religion.
It's funny how every logical view of the trinity is a heresy but the illogical one is the truth
10 minute gang
😎😎
In simple words, Christianity is simply polytheism.
Is not
“Why not worship one god alone” - Mark
Because god is spiri❤️
@@johncena-cd9kryeah because god is like 3 sauces in one pizza.
@@johncena-cd9krOf course , but Jesus is a man , so why you worship him ?
@@AbelOktavianbecause he’s God who became flesh literally John 1💀
@@Gady______ Lol the same nonsense over and over again , so you're telling me that God died ? Who died on a cross ? a man or a God ? If it's God then I have a problem because the Bible said God is immortal , if it's a man then you believe in Human Sacrifice like the pagans do.
Nas "Narcissism" Daily video when brother Bobby?
What they don't understand is that the 99 names are perfect attributes and logically every perfect attribute contains all the other attributes by definition because it's perfect.
Father, Son and Spirit are all God. They're all God, hence, they're perfect. They're all perfect, hence, they contain all the attributes of one another.
With all respect brother, this argument of yours does neither defend Islam nor refute Christianity
attributes don't "exist" like some kind of entity. Attributes just describe the "who"ness of Allah. The "what"ness of Allah is something we can never comprehend and are told not to think about.
Allah is "One". He is one WHO (person/entity/being - no difference). But one "what" is not something we are allowed to discuss or argue about. Allah has said clearly "Do not say three - desist. It is better for you."
@@richterbelmont04 in trinity they say the father isn't the son and the sun isn't the spirit.
What I said above means that every attribute is the other. every name of allah is equal to the other name. Because they are all names of allah.
They are ways for us humans to call him.
If you need forgiveness call him the forgiver.
If you need health call him the healer.
Or call him allah to have the benefit of all his names at the same time.
@@richterbelmont04 they aren't perfect. The father is greater than Jesus and apparently you can blaspheme against jesus but NOT the holy Spirit or else you're doomed this is what the bible says 😆
@@kharchoufmounir1673 I understand that, for me personally that wouldn't still be enough. Firstly, in your case, healer and forgiver, describe the same entity. Still, from a purely logical perspective, a healer isn't automatically a ,,forgiver", therefore seperating them if you view it like this. Secondly, as for us Christians, whether we pray to Jesus or the Father makes little difference, since they're both, in essence, God. The Father shares the divine essence with the Son and the Spirit, making them divine like him. However, while he was on earth, Jesus humbled himself to be like us and to take the role of the servant. After his ascension he became exalted again.
Alhamdulillah ❤
✝️ will be debating and illogically defending the the mind numbing contradiction of trinity from here to eternity. It will never make any sense. But yea.. they are stuck in mud.😂😂
Alhamdulillah for ISLAM ❤❤❤❤❤
May Allah protect you and grant you the highest reward ya Rabb
It doesn’t make sense to be inconsistent with the counting method used. They count by identity when speaking of the persons and use some other undefined counting method when speaking about god. The Hindu trimurti sounds more logical.
sooo. trinitarians worship 3 PERSONS thus 3 gods.
May Allah bless you and all the muslims around the world. And may He guide all humanity to Islam.
The best is Sam Shamoun statements. Jesus did mention trinity, "go and baptist in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit". Look like abreviation rather than concept. Huhu...
Uh oh, are you sure about that? Looks like either jesus never said this or the disciples just didn't care about it. We see in Acts 8:12 Acts 19:5 Acts 10:48 that they only baptized in the name of Jesus, not in the father and the ghost 😂. Even today, they just baptize in the name of Jesus. Classic Sam arguments
The problem I have with the examples that Christians give, like the egg example you use, is the point that they only call out 3 things, and only 3 things when there is more. Like the water example, there is solid, liquid, and gas which are not the same but makes up water. But what about plasma? Ice II or Ice III. Its not only 3.
Yes. They are limiting God to 3 "Persons"
For one. Many Trinitarians, like myself, don’t like the egg analogy as it looks like a heresy called partialism. Secondly, the only reason we believe in the Trinity is because we see in our Holy book repeated over and over their is one God, yet, equally repeated is that there are 3 distinct persons referred to as God and or sharing in the Divine Nature of the Father/God.
@@thomasthellamas9886 tge thing is tjoigh that we more interested in what jesus himself said. And he doesnt make himself equal to God anywhere. And before you say but the "i and the father are one" verse makes it clear that they equal, im going to stop you and say that jesus also said that his followers will ALSO be one with God. so there isnt 3 anymore. Now you have a plethora of gods, and christianity has now become pantheism. Jesus said that the father is greater than him. That already destroys any equality argument. So just because, as you say, there are 3 entities mentioned, doesnt make the other 2 gods aswell... You have to literally mince words to make that a possibility. A christians brain would be an olympic gold medalist with the level of gymnastics it is able to perform.
@@Le_Stadt The thing is, Christians believe that the whole Bible is written with the authority and by the inspiration of God. We don’t think that just the words of Jesus are important.
With that being said. The whole Bible, indicates that God is 1, that The Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, are God, and that they are not each other. I don’t expect a Muslim to believe that. It is not your Holy Book. But it is mine, and if I want to be rational and logically consistent, I have to believe in the Trinity. The Bible doesn’t make sense without it.
I can show you dozens of verses of why I believe this if you want. If you aren’t interested that’s fine. God bless.
@@thomasthellamas9886 if the bible was written with the authority of God, it wouldn't have mistakes. Let's take judas demise for example. Did the holy spirit give 2 accounts to 2 authors on purpose? Or can it be... Gasp* that the bible is NOT written on God's authority? You already lost the plot. Calling the bible God's inspired word, is sign of stupidity in 2024...
💯💯💯💯💯
Yeah this is confusing af, when people try to explain this to me in the past I always have a hard time listening. one should be able to explain anything important simply
There's a video of a little girl reading a book about Jesus (it's on UA-cam) as she reads she said "As he grew up he learn more and more about God , but Jesus is God ?!"
So she asked her father "How can he learn more and more about himself ???"
And her father was dead silent.
"If you can't explain it to a six year old you don't understand it yourself"
- Einstein
John17:3
3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
End of trinity.
💯
I request you to react on "the Final miracle" by noman ali❤please..Though it is a long video so you can upload by two or three parts..And believe me you really shoked😊..hope you will do it.❤
This is so low low tier. Educate yourself 😭
"The logical problem of 1+1+1=1"
◄ Deuteronomy 6:4 ►
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.
"Nah, You're wrong, He is Three in One"
- Paul-ytheists
Alhamdulillah, islam in the middle, love jesus son of mary as prophet
The Hebrew word for god is Ellohim (Ellah- God , Elohim-Gods) what I interpret is this Elohim is used as a respect like in Quran Allah talks by using ‘we ‘ and ‘us ‘ but it only means to him , which is that this plurality is used only as respect and not really more than one god !
My Muslim Brothers Plz don't waste your precious time with them.. you won't believe how useless it is to argue with them.. instead focus on your goal and give dawah to people who are interested..
May Allah Bless You☝️☪️
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Total Darkness 😮💨
Do you well brother Bobby? Whats about you health?
Alhamdulillah, getting better.
Bobby abudul why not debate him live ?.
He will never.
@@ValOrthodoxiaDo you worship any other than Allah?
christian apologist I asked them did god die on cross. they say no god is immortal. ok did a man die on cross for sins. meaning you believe in human sacrifice ? they do not answer embarrassed
Why do they have to make it so complicated? There’s ONE god, that’s it, not 3 in 1, just one
❤
🥰👍
Father is who has 1/2 the DNA of the son. Does the Father have DNA that he shares with his Son?
I'd feel utterly ashamed of a god that can get killed on a wooden peg. Who in their right mind wouldn't? The God of Abraham forgives all sins above His blessed Throne. He doesn't need to come down to Earth to make himself look like a clown and get tortured and die a discraceful pathetic death by his own creation.
Qur'an 39:53. Say, "O My servants who have transgressed against themselves [by sinning], do not despair of the mercy of Allah. Indeed, Allah forgives all sins. Indeed, it is He who is the Forgiving, the Merciful."
I truly missed the prophets' series who agrees with me ?
meee
👍
Jibrel also whispered in Mohd's ears that Alah gives his consent that he can choose any woman he desires or dreams about...even beautiful Safiya ( He exchanged 7 slaves for her )...AND Mariya the maid/ cook. There was a son Ibrahim from her.
Freedom to choose
A HOLY man! supposedly chosen by Alah going after WOMEN...That is really strange indeed.
Quaran 33:50
O Prophet, We have made lawful for you your wives whose bridal dues you have paid,1 and the slave-girls you possess from among the prisoners of war, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and maternal aunts who have migrated with you, and a believing woman who gives herself to the Prophet and whom he wants to take in marriage.2 (O Prophet), this privilege is yours alone to the exclusion of other believers.3 We know well what restrictions We have imposed upon them as regards their wives and those whom their right hands possess, (and have exempted you from those restrictions) that there may be no constraint upon you.4 Allah is Most Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Womaniser given All freedom to choose any woman he chose..Exempted from those restrictions...
You do realize pre-Islamic Arabia had no limit in the number of wives a man could have right? There would be known reason to put such regulations if he was a womanizer like you claim.
But it’s ok I know you mad.
big differences about islam and crishtianity. when come to explaination about god islam always references to Qur'an but the other hand the cristhian never use their book a.k.a bible
The authors of the gospels were not the ones who were walking with Jesus according to Christian scholarship, who admit all authors of the gospels are anonymous. People were just writing about Jesus what they heard about Jesus. The authors of the gospels never claimed that they were witnesses. They never claim who they are. And they never claim any divine inspiration.
What about all the scholars who do think the Gospels were written by the names attributed to them?
@@thomasthellamas9886
The main scholars agree these are unknown authors. Bart Ehrman is one of them and he is one of the most famous and educated scholars and an Ex-Christian
@@JesusisaMuslim But what about the main scholars who do think Gospels were written by the names attributed to them?
@@thomasthellamas9886
The main scholars don't. No Christian has any proof who write them gospels. These are 4th century Greek manuscripts written by unknown authors.
@@JesusisaMuslim “The Gospel of Matthew was written a decade or two after Mark, in the 80s or early 90s A.D.” Bart Erhman.
Dale Allison, Raymond E. Brown, John P. Meier, Mark Goodacre, John Dominic Crossan, Marcus Borg, James D.G. Dunn, E.P. Sanders, Daniel Wallace, and Darrel Bach all think the Synoptics were written before 90ad
Ask most Christians what is the key belief and they will describe the trinity of the co equal god head of Jesus, Father and Holy Ghost and to accept him for salvation. The question I have is why did each of the writers of the gospel not say that exactly? Each one should have said somewhere, God, Jesus and Holy Ghost are all God co equal co eternal. Where is that in each of the 4 gospels? If trinity is true, then each of the writers of the gospels should have been fired for incompetence. They could not even spell out something every Christian can tell you in a few lines. So either trinity is a fabrication or the writers of the gospels were the most incompetent bunch around and the holy spirit did not do much of a job guiding them.
The gospels are claimed to be eyewitness accounts. If 4 people come to you. One says A is god, B, C, ad D do not, there is a problem. Something as key as the godhood of the father son and holy ghost and their co equalness and co eternalness should be testified by all 4 authors. If it's not, you have a serious problem if you are a seeker of the truth. Especially in the context of the repeated stress on the first commandment explicitly in the OT.
The following verse is deemed as a forgery by Christian scholars, and has been thrown out of the modern day translations. This verse is nowhere to be found in any Greek manuscripts until the 15th century. It was added to deceive Christians.
1 John 5:7. For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
.
Alhamdulillah.. we are bless with islam..
Can you react to "Mohammed s.a.w in the book of Daniel"? It's an amazing video.
SAY NO TO TRINITY!
Deuteronomy 6:4. Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.
Mark 12:29. Jesus replied, “The most important commandment is this: ‘Listen, O Israel! The Lord our God is the one and only Lord .
💖☝God says:
Qur'an 112:1-4.
قُلْ هُوَ اللّٰهُ اَحَدٌ
"Say, He is Allah, [who is] One,"
(QS. Al-Ikhlaas: Verse 1)
اَللّٰهُ الصَّمَدُ
"Allah, the Eternal Refuge."
(QS. Al-Ikhlaas: verse 2)
لَمْ يَلِدْ ۙ وَلَمْ يُوْلَدْ
"He neither begets nor is born,"
(QS. Al-Ikhlaas: Verse 3)
وَلَمْ يَكُنْ لَّهٗ كُفُوًا اَحَدٌ
"Nor is there to Him any equivalent."
(QS. Al-Ikhlaas: Verse 4)
.
@@Edwin38397
Another brainwashed victim of Satan
@@Edwin38397
Who's that devil on your thumbanail? Certainly isn't Jesus.
@@JesusisaMuslim Wait so according to you, whoever isn't Jesus, is a devil?
@@JesusisaMuslim Respond to my original argument.
@@Edwin38397
We Muslims and Jews don't believe ahad/achad means one of. You been brainwashed by islamaphobes.
Cristianity is so good religion to smile, funny times😂 islam to scare🙃
In Qur'an, Satan in cursed:
Qur'an 15:34-35. 34.[ Allah ] said, "Then get out of it, for indeed, you are expelled.
35.And indeed, upon you is the curse until the Day of Recompense."
In evil Christianity, Jesus is cursed:
Galatians 3:13. Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”
Father created the son, son didn’t create the father..
Also
““You have said so,” Jesus replied. “But I say to all of you: From now on you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.””
Matthew 26:64
problem solved