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How the Bible debunks the false doctrine of the Trinity.
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- A @Christadelphians Video: Description: The subject of the doctrine of the Trinity is explored in the Bible. Several quotes that Trinitarians like to use are carefully examined and found to not support their case. Explanatory notes for these "wrested scriptures" are helpfully included.
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CHAPTERS By Joanna Evans
00:00 - Intro
01:50 - Why Have Answers for Our Hope
03:44 - Itching Ears and Belief in Fables
05:51 - Three in One Trinity Doctrine
07:11 - John’s Advanced Understanding of God Manifestation
08:38 - Jesus Christ Called Mighty God and Everlasting Father
10:15 - Prophecy of Jesus Christ Yet to be Fulfilled
11:01 - Meaning of ‘Mighty God’
12:05 - Meaning of ‘Everlasting Father’
12:44 - “In the beginning was the word”
14:20 - Meaning of ‘word’ or ‘logos’
15:01 - Correctly Interpreting ‘the word’ in John 1
16:11 - Bible Marking using Electronic Devices
19:24 - “he that came down from heaven”
19:59 - Jesus Christ’s Origin
21:05 - John the Baptist Sent from God
21:45 - Jesus Christ’s God Manifestation
22:01 - “I and the Father are one”
22:15 - One in Unity and Purpose NOT Physical Identity
25:08 - “He that hath seen me has seen the Father”
25:34 - Mortal Man Cannot See God and Live
26:19 - Inseparable in Plan, Purpose and Character
27:37 - “For there are three that bear record in heaven”
28:47 - The Erroneous and Willful Addition to 1 John
31:20 - The Verses that Destroy the Trinity Doctrine
38:08 - Jesus Christ is NOT Equal to God
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"Christianity did not destroy paganism; it adopted it."
this is true in many cases - It was the Roman, Constantine that was chiefest in adopting such practices, and then the Roman Catholic church...very sad.
@@Christadelphians
This led to Christian crusades which is why most of South America, Spain, Portugal etc. Are worshipping the idol of Mary for their salvation.
Muslims pray towards and kiss a black stone. Guess where that came from? Pagans.
To jesusisa Muslim; correction, the Roman catholic church adopted paganism and mixed it with Christianity. The catholic church is not true Christianity. To unite his kingdom, Constantine united the pagans and Christians by changing out the mythological gods with multiple saints. This satisfied both sides. The pagans got 3 persons , the Christians got ' one true god'. Roman catholicism then went on to kill 68 million Christians over several centuries who opposed this doctrine. The so called 'HOLY INQUISITION '. True Christians were labeled 'heretics'. That was a death sentence . They also sent out a highly trained Jesuit priest named Mohammed and he went Rogue and came up with Islam. They lost control over him. The jesuits were trained in destabilization and conquest of countries. God allowed the rise of Islam to counter the spread of Roman catholicism. After all Christians were not warlike . They have the true nature of God. Lambs, doves, etc. GOD IS IN CONTROL.
RUBBISH ir just shows you have a little understanding of christianity and even less of the ISLAM
Fantastic points made in this message! Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you very much for the video my dear brother!May Yahweh continue to bless you!❤
you dont know him
"But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the husband is the head of his wife, and God is the head of Christ." - 1 Corinthians 11:3
To trinitarians this means my wife's head is my head literally.
not in my bible :)
Very interesting ❤Thank you 😊
THE TRIUNE GODHEAD, THE TRINITY.
The bible says Jesus is from ancient times, from of old, from everlasting, and from eternity. HE WAS IN THE BEGINNING WITH THE FATHER. It also tells us that he created everything that has ever been created, and nothing that has been created was created without him. All things are held together by him. We clearly know that in the beginning the father wasn't alone. In the book of Genesis, the Holy Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters. We also know that when God created man, he was not alone because he said let US create man in our image.
In Psalms 89:27 it says "I will also make him my firstborn, greatest of the kings of the earth." God the Father exalted Jesus while he was in the flesh. Philippians 2:5-6 clearly tells us that Jesus Christ who was God in his very nature did not consider using the fact that he was God to his advantage while he was in human form. But Jesus made himself nothing by taking on the role of a servant.
We know that he is eternal and our creator. Not to mention, the bible clearly shows that the Holy Spirit is a person who knows the mind of God. The spirit of God has emotions, the Holy spirit teaches, testifies, guides, speaks, enlightens, strives, commands, intercedes, sends workers, comforts, and he also works. When dealing with Ananais, Peter told him that he had not lied to man, but he had lied to God because Ananais had lied to the Holy Spirit. The bible tells us that the Holy Spirit is omnipresent when it says where can I go from your spirit. The Holy Spirit is known as He. The holy spirit was involved in the creation and HE is also known as another helper.
"In Matthew 4:16-17 we see that the Father speaks out of heaven when Jesus is baptized - a clear distinction. We also read in John 17:1 that Jesus prayed to the Father, and he carefully made a distinction between the two in saying "Father... glorify your Son, that the Son may glorify You." In fact, 1 John 2:1 tells us that Jesus is our Advocate with the Father. It doesn't make sense to equate Jesus and the Father as the same person, as these verses would be rendered nonsense.
John 14:20 again demonstrates the personhood of both the Son and Father when Jesus said "In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you." Since we realize that we are different persons than Jesus, this verse would argue that the Father is likewise distinct from the Son and not the same person.
Also we see the Holy Spirit is not Jesus. In John 14:26 Jesus again makes this explicit where He teaches "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, He will teach you all things." Previous to this Jesus identified the Spirit as "another helper" (John 14:6). That word "another" is key. We also saw the Spirit in the Matthew 4 passage above descend on Jesus as a dove.
We know the Spirit is a person, because He has all the attributes of a person and not just "God's holy force" as some are wanting to believe. You cannot lie to an active force, nor can you grieve one (see Eph 4:30). Thus the Bible is clear in presenting each of the three members of the trinity as separate persons - each distinct - but each fully the one true God."
THE FATHER IS GOD.
THE SON IS GOD.
THE HOLYSPIRIT IS GOD.
NOT 3 GOD'S, BUT THE ONE TRUE GOD.
THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE.
This was an excellent study. Thank you.
THE TRIUNE GODHEAD, THE TRINITY.
The bible says Jesus is from ancient times, from of old, from everlasting, and from eternity. HE WAS IN THE BEGINNING WITH THE FATHER. It also tells us that he created everything that has ever been created, and nothing that has been created was created without him. All things are held together by him. We clearly know that in the beginning the father wasn't alone. In the book of Genesis, the Holy Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters. We also know that when God created man, he was not alone because he said let US create man in our image.
In Psalms 89:27 it says "I will also make him my firstborn, greatest of the kings of the earth." God the Father exalted Jesus while he was in the flesh. Philippians 2:5-6 clearly tells us that Jesus Christ who was God in his very nature did not consider using the fact that he was God to his advantage while he was in human form. But Jesus made himself nothing by taking on the role of a servant.
We know that he is eternal and our creator. Not to mention, the bible clearly shows that the Holy Spirit is a person who knows the mind of God. The spirit of God has emotions, the Holy spirit teaches, testifies, guides, speaks, enlightens, strives, commands, intercedes, sends workers, comforts, and he also works. When dealing with Ananais, Peter told him that he had not lied to man, but he had lied to God because Ananais had lied to the Holy Spirit. The bible tells us that the Holy Spirit is omnipresent when it says where can I go from your spirit. The Holy Spirit is known as He. The holy spirit was involved in the creation and HE is also known as another helper.
"In Matthew 4:16-17 we see that the Father speaks out of heaven when Jesus is baptized - a clear distinction. We also read in John 17:1 that Jesus prayed to the Father, and he carefully made a distinction between the two in saying "Father... glorify your Son, that the Son may glorify You." In fact, 1 John 2:1 tells us that Jesus is our Advocate with the Father. It doesn't make sense to equate Jesus and the Father as the same person, as these verses would be rendered nonsense.
John 14:20 again demonstrates the personhood of both the Son and Father when Jesus said "In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you." Since we realize that we are different persons than Jesus, this verse would argue that the Father is likewise distinct from the Son and not the same person.
Also we see the Holy Spirit is not Jesus. In John 14:26 Jesus again makes this explicit where He teaches "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, He will teach you all things." Previous to this Jesus identified the Spirit as "another helper" (John 14:6). That word "another" is key. We also saw the Spirit in the Matthew 4 passage above descend on Jesus as a dove.
We know the Spirit is a person, because He has all the attributes of a person and not just "God's holy force" as some are wanting to believe. You cannot lie to an active force, nor can you grieve one (see Eph 4:30). Thus the Bible is clear in presenting each of the three members of the trinity as separate persons - each distinct - but each fully the one true God."
THE FATHER IS GOD.
THE SON IS GOD.
THE HOLYSPIRIT IS GOD.
NOT 3 GOD'S, BUT THE ONE TRUE GOD.
THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE.
Christ himself said that being equal to God was something that he could not grasp.
Where did Jesus say this? Verse and scripture please?
@@MarkCurtis-eh3ue Philippians 2:6
"Though he was in the image of God, being himself equal to God was something he could not grasp..."
So here he identified himself as strictly man and man only using the important characteristics of man. Those being A. In the image of God but B. Not being equal to God. This is the formula for mankind when we were created. And here Christ acknowledges he is of that formula, not one of a God.
@@MarkCurtis-eh3ue he also said many times that he was God's servant. You can't be coequal if you are a servant. You are by Christs own words, subordinate.
us refers to the two natures of Christ. in genesis we read YHWH rained fire and brimstone from YHWH, the distinction being between the visible fleshly manifestation of YHWH who met with Abraham and the invisible Spirit YHWH ( see john 4:24 God is Spirit ).. Us therefore refers to the two natures of YHWH not 2 distinct people.YHWH is not a different person from YHWH, yet YHWH rains FROM YHWH. There is certainly a distinction being made, but not that of people, but natures! If you read Luke 1 you will read that "He will be called the Son because the Spirit will cause the conception." Son therefore refers to the humanity of Christ. John 1 says the Word is God, John 4:24 God is Spirit, thus Christ is the Spirit manifested in the flesh. See Romans 8:9 which says it plainly, the Spirit of God = Spirit of Christ. So Christ is the Son according to his humanity, and Father / Holy Spirit according to his divine Spirit. Christ is fully man fully God. Note also Jesus said "destroy this temple and in three days i will raise it up again!" In acts we read " God raised Jesus" thus the "I" is a direct claim of deity,, God is Spirit thus it was the Spirit who raised Christ's flesh, and Christ refers to the Holy Spirit as "I." This is why the scriptures use Holy Spirit in us interchangeably with Christ in us. As nobody believes a jewish man is in them in a literal sense, we understand it is the Spirit of Christ who is the Holy Spirit in us! In genesis the Spirit is creating, in new testament we read all things were made through Christ, again because the Spirit of Christ is the Holy Spirit and thus the Holy Spirit in genesis creating is Christ creating ! The Word ( Christ ) became flesh = the Spirit manifested in the temple of man. Christ had 2 wills as a result of his two natures, the human will and the divine will. According to his humanity he willed to eat sleep and grew in wisdom, according to his divine will forgave sins, raised his own body, never grows hungry or tired and is omnipresent... This is why the humanity ( The Son ) was in submission to the Spirit, not 1 person inferior to another, but rather the human nature of Christ in communion and submission to the Spirit of Christ. Jesus said the Father was greater, the Spirit is eternal omnipresent all powerful, the humanity of Christ had a beginning, was not omnipresent, relied on the Spirit for power... In no way does this mean that Christ is not God, it is referring to the two natures of Christ in contrast to each other, not 2 distinct people.
@@JoshuaHults that is some amazing mental gymnastics you have done to justify such an illogical nonsensical position. Congratulations, I don't think I've read such a word salad in a very long time.
Ask 500 Christians about the Trinity and you will get 500 different explanations.
Ask a Muslim and they will cite 5:72-75 which calls the Trinity Allah, Jesus and Mary and this is also incorrect. So tack Allah in that group who doesn't understand the Trinity.
@@andys3035
Mary is not mentioned in Qur'an 5:72-75. Please educate yourself.
@@JesusisaMuslim 73- They have certainly disbelieved who say, " Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah , my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers.
What are you talking about? Lol
@@andys3035
You seem brainwashed. It just says the son of Mary. Absolutely nowhere does it mention Mary as trinity. Many places in Islamic teachings ot says Jesus the son of Mary.
@@JesusisaMuslim are you serious? I got to do the homework for you? Man, I am more Muslim than you.
The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. **They both used to eat food.** Look how We make clear to them the signs; then look how they are deluded.
If you go back to verse 73 it talks about Allah not being a 3rd of 3. Who are the other 2/3 in this context? Mary and Jesus! Where it mentions they are human and ate food drives home this view because the Quran is saying they aren't "gods" and partners with Allah. Surah 5:116 drives home this point even more, same chapter. Use your brain!
Why bother explaining that faulty translation of Isaiah 9:6 when all you need to do is go to the Septuigant for the correct translation? The Septuigant in Greek to English reads nothing like the KJV and a few others that copied it.
I agree with this pastor and would like to add an irrefutable point. 1 John 4: 1 - 3. John says that the person who confesses that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is from God. Now if you obtain a list of names, attributes and offices of God, you will not find the name Christ or anointed one.
Please answer these questions: Who is the Rock cut out of the Mountain, not by human hands Daniel 2? Who is the Mountain? Are the Rock and the Mountain made of the same substance? What came first, the Rock or the Mountain? 🙏❤
The same way Jesus the Christ did not literally come down from heaven should be the same position you take for "the word became flesh and dwelt among us." seriously....where is the word among us now....or how is the word among us now? It's among us by dwelling IN each believer.
So, my translation of 1:14 is; and the word came to humanity and dwelt in us....etc."
The word never literally became Jesus.....that translation is absurd.
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a Child is born,
Unto us a Son is given;
And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
We all know this is talking about Jesus and we all know there is One God.
Jesus is not only called everlasting father in this text, He is called the Mighty God..
Please, with commonsense and reasoned thinking, read Jesus' own words in John 17:3. See also 1 Timothy 2:5, again with unclouded intellect.
@@1984Tube Matthew 1:23
“Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”
Isaiah 44:6
“Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: ‘I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God.
First verse is Jehovah speaking the following verse is Jesus speaking, both using the same title.
Revelation 2:8
And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write, ‘These things says the First and the Last, who was dead, and came to life:
Jesus calls Himself the I AM in John 8:58, referencing Exodus 3:14, Jesus forgives Sin, something only God can do. Receives Worship, Matt. 8:2, 9:18 John 9:38 Hebrews 1:6 and many other times , something only God should receive. calls Himself the bridegroom, a title used by Jehovah in the Old testament. Isaiah 61:10 and several other places, the parallels are too many to anything other than Jesus, the Holy Spirit and Jehovah are the one God
@@1984Tube Immanuel, God with us, Matthew 1:23 , The First and the Last Revelation 2:8 Jesus receives Worship Hebrews 1:6,
Yes my friend Jesus is called Mighty God and rightly so as the second most powerful being in the universe.
BUT perhaps do some of your own research and look at the terms ‘Mighty God” and “Almighty God”. They are in fact two different words in the Hebrew.
Almighty God is only ever ascribed to the God of Israel, YHWH. Never to Jesus. It’s not a contradiction at all to call Jesus a Mighty God totally accurate he is, he just isn’t Almighty God.
I’d encourage you to explore and research this my friend.
@@Cafez27 it is applied to Jesus in Revelation, not to mention, The First and Last and the Alpha and Omega, titles Jehovah uses. Revelation 1:8 is speaking of Jesus, and He is called The Almighty. On the same hand, Jehovah is called Mighty God several times, in the Old testament, probably more than He is called Almighty a quick word search should confirm that..I have done plenty of research on this
Now remember scripture says to give an answer for your hope or expectation in Messiah, read it in context, it does not say for your religious beliefs. It literally tells you whenever asked. Because it tells you not to argue Torah, that is the instructions the guidance the right rulings and the laws, as this creates division, and there are 145,000 different divisions/factions of Christianity, and the Father says he's going to destroy them all because he hates divisions/factions.
You tell them brother! Amen!
This will remain Hot 🔥.. burning the theory of trinity
Why does God the Father call Jesus GOD.
New International Version
But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
Berean Standard Bible
And from His mouth proceeds a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and He will rule them with an iron scepter. He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.
King James Bible
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come,
(THE Almighty)
King James Bible
(I am he that liveth, and was dead;) and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
King James Bible
Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.
King James Bible
He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
King James Bible
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
JESUS IS THE ALMIGHTY.
ALL THE PROPHECIES EVER SINCE THE BOOK OF GENESIS HAVE BEEN FULFILLED.
The bible says that the word became a man. (FLESH)
New International Version
Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, (but a body you prepared for me;)
In other words before Jesus took on human nature, ( flesh).
What was he? John 1:14 = GOD became man.
HE WAS GOD, ONE MEMBER OF THE TRIUNE GODHEAD. BECAUSE GOD EXISTS IN 3 FATHER, SON, AND HOLYSPIRIT.
So before Jesus took on flesh HE was one with THE FATHER.
Sharing the glory with THE FATHER , SELF EXISTING WITH THE FATHER IN TOTAL HARMONY, AND IN PERFECT UNION.
THE bible says THE WORD took on the form of a servant .
New International Version philippians 2:7
rather, HE made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.
In order to take on the role of a servant,
HE could not have been a servant.
JESUS was not a servant until HE took
On flesh, HE existed before HE took on flesh, but he wasn't a servant.HE IS God just Like the FATHER and just like the HOLYSPIRIT
JESUS said if you don't believe me, believe the works the miracles THAT I DONE.
New International Version john 10:38
But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the FATHER is in me, and I in the FATHER.”
It is very clear that Jesus was doing the things, That only God can do.
If doing the things that only God can do
Is not good enough for someone to believe, they must be blind.
What more can you possibly want HE lived out a life greater than anything written can explain.
He lived a sinless and perfect life.
New International Version
2 corinthians 5:21
God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.
No one on earth has ever done the works that he has done. He done it all !
NO ONE ELSE HAS EVER DONE ANYTHING CLOSE TO WHAT HE HAS DONE.
HE LIVED THE LIFE THAT ONLY GOD COULD LIVE.
HE DONE THE THINGS THAT ONLY GOD
CAN DO.
HE FORGIVES SINS.
HE GIVES LIFE.
HE IS THE SAVIOR.
HE GAVE SIGHT TO THE BLIND.
HE HEALED THE SICK
HE WALKED ON WATER.
HE CALMED THE STORM.
HE CHANGED PEOPLE FROM THE INSIDE.
HE SHINED LIGHT INTO THE DARKNESS.
HE RAISED THE DEAD, HE RAISED HIMSELF FROM THE GRAVE, CONQUERING DEATH.
HE SAID ALL THAT BELONGS TO THE FATHER IS MINE. WHO CAN MAKE SUCH
A STATEMENT.
THE LIST GOES ON.
HE SAID IN JOHN 8:24
King James Bible
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE, ye shall die in your sins.
@@reynaldoperez7285 Jesus is not Almighty, ..seems to me you need Jesus so that to be delivered from misconception you are into
@@rasgwandumikaisi7489
JESUS IS GOD
ISSAIAH 42:8
New Living Translation
“I am the LORD; that is my name!
( I WILL NOT GIVE MY GLORY TO ANYONE ELSE,)
nor share my praise with carved idols.
New International Version
Matthew 16:27
(For the Son of Man IS GOING TO COME IN HIS FATHER ’s GLORY )
with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.
JESUS AND THE FATHER SHARE THE SAME GLORY. TOP 2 VERSES
◄ John 17:5 ►
New International Version
And now, (Father, glorify me in your presence WITH THE GLORY I HAD WITH YOU BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN.)
ISSAIAH 43:10
New International Version
“You are my witnesses,” declares the LORD, “and my servant whom I have chosen, (SO THAT YOU MAY KNOW AND BELIEVE ME AND UNDERSTAND THAT I AM HE.)
BEFORE ME no god was formed, nor will there be one AFTER ME.
THERE IS ONLY 1 GOD, THE TRIUNE GOD, THE, FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT.
King James Bible acts 17:29
Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that (THE GODHEAD) is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
◄ John 8:24 ►
New International Version
I told you that you would die in your sins; (IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THAT I AM HE,) you will indeed die in your sins.”(these are the words of JESUS.)
BOTH JESUS AND THE FATHER SAY (I AM HE)
< Issiah 43:11 >
New International Version
I, even I, am the LORD, and (APART FROM ME THERE IS NO SAVIOR.)
◄ Matthew 1:21 ►
New International Version
She will give birth to a son, (and you are to give him the name Jesus, because (HE WILL SAVE )his people from their sins.”) JESUS IS THE SAVIOR.
◄ John 16:15 ►
New International Version
All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you.”
WOW, EVERYTHING THAT THE FATHER HAS BELONGS TO CHRIST.
EVERYTHING.
◄ Acts 20:28 ►
NEW KING JAMES
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed (THE CHURCH OF GOD, WHICH HE HATH PURCHASED WITH HIS OWN BLOOD.)
HOW DID GOD PURCHASE THE CHURCH WITH HIS OWN BLOOD?
Berean Standard Bible
Leviticus 17:11
For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for your souls upon the altar; for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul.
◄ Hebrews 10:8 ►
New International Version
First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them"-(THOUGH THEY WERE OFFERED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW.)
GOD DOESN'T WANT YOUR WORKS
EVEN IF THEY ARE OFFERED ACCORDING TO THE LAW.
◄ John 6:29 ►
New International Version
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
◄ John 8:24 ►
New International Version
I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins.”
◄ Hebrews 10:5 ►
New International Version
Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,
(BUT A BODY YOU PREPARED FOR ME; )
GOD MADE A BODY FOR JESUS.
THE WORD WHO IS GOD.
JOHN 1:1
New International Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, AND THE WORD WAS GOD.
GOD THE WORD TOOK ON FLESH.
◄ John 1:14 ►
New International Version
(THE WORD BECAME FLESH) and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
philippians 2:6-7
Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
HE TOOK ON THE FORM OF A SERVANT MEANS HE WAS NOT A SERVANT BEFORE HE TOOK ON FLESH.
JUST THINK ABOUT IT, HE TOOK ON THE FORM OF A SERVANT.
HOW CAN SOMEONE TAKE ON A ROLE OF WHAT HE SHOULD ALREADY BE.
New Living Translation
JESUS GAVE HIS LIFE FOR OUR SINS, JUST AS GOD OUR FATHER PLANNED, in order to rescue us from this evil world in which we live.
◄ John 10:18 ►
New International Version
NO ONE TAKES IT FROM ME,
-(HIS LIFE)-
(BUT I LAY IT DOWN OF MY OWN ACCORD.)
I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”
HOSEA 6:6
FOR I DESIRE STEADFAST LOVE
and not sacrifice,
THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD rather than burnt offerings.
WOW THE ONLY THING GOD REALLY WANTS FROM US IS TO
KNOW HIM, AND LOVE HIM AND LOVE OTHERS.
King James bible ecclesiastes 3:17
I said in mine heart,(GOD SHALL JUDGE) the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work.
Ecclesiastes 12:14
For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil.
Acts 17:31
For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.
King James Version ISSAIAH 32:22
For the LORD is our judge,
the LORD is our lawgiver,
the LORD is our king;
he will save us
Psalm 100:3
Know that the Lord Himself is God;
It is He who has made us, and not we ourselves;
We are His people and the sheep of His pasture.
Isaiah 66:16
For the Lord will execute judgment by fire
And by His sword on all flesh,
And those slain by the Lord will be many.
James 4:12
(There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the One who is able to save and to destroy; ) but who are you who judge your neighbor?
◄ Matthew 10:28 ►
King James Bible
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
◄ Revelation 1:8 ►
New International Version
(“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says THE LORD GOD,) “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”
◄ Hebrews 1:8 ►
New International Version
BUT ABOUT THE SON HE SAYS, “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
JESUS DIDN'T HAVE TO SAY HE WAS GOD, BECAUSE THE FATHER
SAID IT, AND WHAT THE FATHER SAYS IS TRUE.
JOHN 8 17-18
In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is true. I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me.”
◄ John 14:1 ►
New International Version
“Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me.
King James Bible
We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
◄ Romans 7:6 ►
New International Version
But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that WE SERVE IN THE NEW WAY OF THE SPIRIT, and not in the old way of the written code.
Zechariah 12:10
ESV“And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy,
⛑️ SO THAT, WHEN THEY LOOK ON ME, ON HIM WHOM THEY HAVE PIERCED, 🪖
they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn.
English Standard Version
MALICHI 3:1
“Behold, I send my messenger, and he will prepare the way before me. And the Lord whom you seek will suddenly come to his temple; and the messenger of the covenant in whom you delight, behold, he is coming, says the LORD of hosts.
OK, MALACHI 3:1 SAYS
I SEND MY MESSENGER.
WHO WAS THE MESSENGER?
ANSWER: JOHN THE BAPTIST.
This is prophecy,
English Standard Version
ISSAIAH 40:3
A voice cries: "In the wilderness prepare the way of the LORD; make straight in the desert a highway ( for our God )
PROPHESY FULLFILLED.
English Standard Version JOHN 1:19
(And this is the testimony of John,) when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, “Who are you?”
English Standard Version
john 1:23
He said, “I am the voice of one crying out in the wilderness, (‘Make straight the way of the Lord,’ )as the prophet Isaiah said.”
AND THE LORD WHOM YOU SEEK WILL COME TO( HIS )TEMPLE.
SOLOMON BUILT THE TEMPLE FOR
GOD.
THE MESSENGER OF THE
COVENANT IN WHOM YOU DELIGHT.
JEREMIAH 31 31-33
JESUS IS THE MESSENGER OF THE
NEW COVENANT. BY HIS BLOOD.
1 CORINTHIANS 11:25
MATTHEW 26:27-28
LUKE 22:20
THE TRIUNE GOD OF ISREAL. 🙌 🙏
So much in the Bible tells us that we are connected to Spirit from the very beginning. Numbers 14.18 is qualified by Ezekiel 18.18-24. Matthew 17:12-13 tells us that Elijah had returned as John the Baptist. *_SPIRIT is far more important that the Body!_* Even Christ's disciples knew of reincarnation and the confusion within Judaism regarding it, as we saw in John 9:1-2.
Some statements by Christ are greatly clarified by the spiritual nature of man, ignoring the body and its ego; for example, Matthew 26:52.
😎♥✝🇺🇸💯
The most aggressive, arrogant, and self-righteous people I have encountered when preaching on the street are other 'Christians'. They give me plenty of verbal abuse because I tell them the trinity presents with no logic and is not found anywhere in scripture. I get the usual John 1:1 and once saved always saved nonsense too. Experiencing this only demonstrates how cunning Satan is, able to divide people who read the same book and worship the same God.
Thanks for clear explanation on one GOD!!!!
false expanation easy to refute
The Trinity describes what is taught in the Old Testament and New Testament:
Read it: Philippians 2:5-9
Hebrews 1:5-7
John 14:2
🚨Trinitarian believe in One God, Yahweh.
🚨 The word “Trinity” is a descriptive word describing what the Bible teaches in the Old and New Testament. Tertullian, an early Christian theologian from Carthage, is known to be the first to use the word “Trinity” to describe the Bible over a 100 years before the Council of Nicaea.
📖 Read the verses below:
- Phil 2:5-9, teach Jesus is a part of the One God who is distinct God the Father.
- Hebrew 1:5-12, teaches Jesus is not an Angel; and, God the Father tells us the Son is God.
- John 14:26, The Spirit is God but is also distinct from God. That’s why the Father can send Him.
- Revelations 22:13, Jesus is eternal, Jesus is the Alpha and Omega. This is Fact per Jesus.
✝️ The Trinity believes only in the One God Yahweh, who within is nature is Father, Son, and Spirit. Father, Son and Spirit together is who the One and Only God, Yahweh is.
Add in John 17:20-25 and Revelation 3:21 and it can get even crazier.
You can make the bible say whatever you want if you don't read the bible in its entirety.
you will believe only what you want to believe. And until Jesus takes the veil from your eyes there is nothing I can do to change it.
In Gen 1:26 when God says, 'let us make man in our image', he is likely speaking to the angels, because they stand in his presence (Lu 1:19, Job 1:6).
Jesus was Emmanuel because his father worked in him and did the works. Ac 10:38 'God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; *for God was with him* .' So, God was with Israel by being with his son. And those who understood how Jesus was God's messenger doing God's will, could appreciate that God was with them, without having to believe that Jesus was actually God.
In 1 Cor 10:4 it says they drank of the spiritual drink, of that rock, which was Christ. Which doesn't need to mean that Christ was then in existence. Jesus speaks about the living water in John 4, which is his teaching and that of believing in him (Jo 7:37,38). Those in Moses' day didn't have Jesus' teaching, neither was he there for them to believe in. But they did have the law which foreshadowed him, and God said that a prophet like Moses would he raise up in the future. So, for example, those who were aware would see Jesus continually being prophesied, in every offering, and in the work of the priests.
Verse 9 has a similar idea where it says 'Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.' The issue referred to in the wilderness, was not that they were tempting Jesus, who wasn't even present, but that they said 'there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loathes this light bread' (Nu 21:5). They were counting God's provision as nothing and testing God to see if he would provide more, when he had already provided sufficient. And the point is, that Manna signified Jesus who would come in the future as the bread of life. In a similar way those in the 1st century, who held onto the law of Moses, were in effect saying that God's provision of Christ was not sufficient to give them life.
@@eddieyoung2104 you are missing many verses to receive yourself of this hogwash. Jesus was the the word on the beginning with His and was God. the spiritual rock led them through the wilderness read John 1 and 1 Corinthians 10 1-4. Jesus was sinless and they tried and killed him for blasphemy saying He was God. He can't be sinless if he lied. This means He was and is God
@@ianmonk6211 - Yes, I have read 1 Cor 10 and I quoted it, and explained its meaning. John 1 says the word was in the beginning, not Jesus. If the beginning refers to the creation, then God spoke his word, and it was created. By that same word he gave prophecy of his coming anointed one, and when Jesus was born, the word which God spoke about him, became a reality. Or in other words, it became flesh. The beginning could also refer to the beginning of the gospel where Gabriel spoke God's word to Mary, promising a son. And 9 months later that word became flesh.
They killed him for blasphemy, but not because he said he was God. All four gospel accounts show it was because he claimed to be the son of God, that they condemned him.
Lu 22:70,71: 'Then said they all, Art thou then the *Son of* God? And he said unto them, Ye say that I am'. And they said, What need we any further witness? for we ourselves have heard of his own mouth'.
Mt 26:63-65: 'And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, *the Son of* God. Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy; what further need have we of witnesses? behold, now ye have heard his blasphemy'.
Mr 14:61-64: 'Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, *the Son of* the Blessed? And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What need we any further witnesses? Ye have heard the blasphemy: what think ye? And they all condemned him to be guilty of death'.
Jo 19:7 'The Jews answered him (Pilate), We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself *the Son of* God'.
@@eddieyoung2104 sir you are deceived Jesus is God the creator
@@ianmonk6211 - Apart from saying I am deceived, do you have any reason to contradict those four gospel passages I quoted? They all clearly show that Jesus was condemned because he admitted to being the son of God, and not because he claimed to be God.
We baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit! Here's your God and my God!
First Christians-was baptize only in the name of Jesus Christ.Act;2. 38,39,41 .Act8; 16, Act10 and 47,48 and others several vers .Jesus would babtize people in Holy Spirit no oneelse .
@@AdelaKershko and your point?
the original text said "in my name." the Apostles only baptized in Jesus name. Father Son Spirit was a footnote that became part of the text later in history. John 4:24 God is Spirit, that means the Father who is God is the Spirit. The Spirit and the Father are not two different people lol, they are titles for the same 1 God. The Word is God, thus Christ is the Spirit manifested in the flesh. Christ is God. Son refers to Christ's humanity see luke 1, will be called the Son because the Spirit caused conception, the physical temple of Christ is referred to as the Son. However man is not flesh alone but Spirit and flesh, thus in Romans 8:9 we see the Spirit of Christ is the Spirit of God, used interchangeably. Since God is Spirit and the Father thus is the Spirit we can say Christ is the eternal Father just as isaiah 9:6 says plainly.
Thanks for clear explanation on the Trinity.I have never believed in the Trinity. It does not make any sense.
ditto - not being raised with any faith, when i was first introduced to the idea of the Trinity - it felt like the 'Kings new clothes' scenario.... i just couldn't see how folk could accept it as real/ legitimate...
It's the most nonsensical deceptive thing new age Christians teach. I truly believe it is the great deception the bible speaks of.
When does things making sense to you dictate what is true?
@@andys3035 because a just God, who truly wants a relationship with all of His children, would not hide his nature behind esoteric irrational human centric ideas that require endless mental gymnastics and tossing out common sense logic to rationalize.
@@nadenevanstaden7360
THE TRIUNE GODHEAD, THE TRINITY.
The bible says Jesus is from ancient times, from of old, from everlasting, and from eternity. HE WAS IN THE BEGINNING WITH THE FATHER. It also tells us that he created everything that has ever been created, and nothing that has been created was created without him. All things are held together by him. We clearly know that in the beginning the father wasn't alone. In the book of Genesis, the Holy Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters. We also know that when God created man, he was not alone because he said let US create man in our image.
In Psalms 89:27 it says "I will also make him my firstborn, greatest of the kings of the earth." God the Father exalted Jesus while he was in the flesh. Philippians 2:5-6 clearly tells us that Jesus Christ who was God in his very nature did not consider using the fact that he was God to his advantage while he was in human form. But Jesus made himself nothing by taking on the role of a servant.
We know that he is eternal and our creator. Not to mention, the bible clearly shows that the Holy Spirit is a person who knows the mind of God. The spirit of God has emotions, the Holy spirit teaches, testifies, guides, speaks, enlightens, strives, commands, intercedes, sends workers, comforts, and he also works. When dealing with Ananais, Peter told him that he had not lied to man, but he had lied to God because Ananais had lied to the Holy Spirit. The bible tells us that the Holy Spirit is omnipresent when it says where can I go from your spirit. The Holy Spirit is known as He. The holy spirit was involved in the creation and HE is also known as another helper.
"In Matthew 4:16-17 we see that the Father speaks out of heaven when Jesus is baptized - a clear distinction. We also read in John 17:1 that Jesus prayed to the Father, and he carefully made a distinction between the two in saying "Father... glorify your Son, that the Son may glorify You." In fact, 1 John 2:1 tells us that Jesus is our Advocate with the Father. It doesn't make sense to equate Jesus and the Father as the same person, as these verses would be rendered nonsense.
John 14:20 again demonstrates the personhood of both the Son and Father when Jesus said "In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you." Since we realize that we are different persons than Jesus, this verse would argue that the Father is likewise distinct from the Son and not the same person.
Also we see the Holy Spirit is not Jesus. In John 14:26 Jesus again makes this explicit where He teaches "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, He will teach you all things." Previous to this Jesus identified the Spirit as "another helper" (John 14:6). That word "another" is key. We also saw the Spirit in the Matthew 4 passage above descend on Jesus as a dove.
We know the Spirit is a person, because He has all the attributes of a person and not just "God's holy force" as some are wanting to believe. You cannot lie to an active force, nor can you grieve one (see Eph 4:30). Thus the Bible is clear in presenting each of the three members of the trinity as separate persons - each distinct - but each fully the one true God."
THE FATHER IS GOD.
THE SON IS GOD.
THE HOLYSPIRIT IS GOD.
NOT 3 GOD'S, BUT THE ONE TRUE GOD.
THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE.
Finally a person who reads and explains, lol
About 1John 5:7
Fron Darby Bible: 1Jn 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, Jesus the Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that bears witness, for the Spirit is the truth. 7 For they that bear witness are three: 8 the Spirit, and the water, and the blood; and the three agree in one. 9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater. For this is the witness of God which he has witnessed concerning his Son.
For God so loved the world that he GAVE his only begotten son. Ponder this verse. I pray one can immerse themselves in what it truly means. Amen
THE TRIUNE GODHEAD, THE TRINITY.
The bible says Jesus is from ancient times, from of old, from everlasting, and from eternity. HE WAS IN THE BEGINNING WITH THE FATHER. It also tells us that he created everything that has ever been created, and nothing that has been created was created without him. All things are held together by him. We clearly know that in the beginning the father wasn't alone. In the book of Genesis, the Holy Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters. We also know that when God created man, he was not alone because he said let US create man in our image.
In Psalms 89:27 it says "I will also make him my firstborn, greatest of the kings of the earth." God the Father exalted Jesus while he was in the flesh. Philippians 2:5-6 clearly tells us that Jesus Christ who was God in his very nature did not consider using the fact that he was God to his advantage while he was in human form. But Jesus made himself nothing by taking on the role of a servant.
We know that he is eternal and our creator. Not to mention, the bible clearly shows that the Holy Spirit is a person who knows the mind of God. The spirit of God has emotions, the Holy spirit teaches, testifies, guides, speaks, enlightens, strives, commands, intercedes, sends workers, comforts, and he also works. When dealing with Ananais, Peter told him that he had not lied to man, but he had lied to God because Ananais had lied to the Holy Spirit. The bible tells us that the Holy Spirit is omnipresent when it says where can I go from your spirit. The Holy Spirit is known as He. The holy spirit was involved in the creation and HE is also known as another helper.
"In Matthew 4:16-17 we see that the Father speaks out of heaven when Jesus is baptized - a clear distinction. We also read in John 17:1 that Jesus prayed to the Father, and he carefully made a distinction between the two in saying "Father... glorify your Son, that the Son may glorify You." In fact, 1 John 2:1 tells us that Jesus is our Advocate with the Father. It doesn't make sense to equate Jesus and the Father as the same person, as these verses would be rendered nonsense.
John 14:20 again demonstrates the personhood of both the Son and Father when Jesus said "In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you." Since we realize that we are different persons than Jesus, this verse would argue that the Father is likewise distinct from the Son and not the same person.
Also we see the Holy Spirit is not Jesus. In John 14:26 Jesus again makes this explicit where He teaches "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, He will teach you all things." Previous to this Jesus identified the Spirit as "another helper" (John 14:6). That word "another" is key. We also saw the Spirit in the Matthew 4 passage above descend on Jesus as a dove.
We know the Spirit is a person, because He has all the attributes of a person and not just "God's holy force" as some are wanting to believe. You cannot lie to an active force, nor can you grieve one (see Eph 4:30). Thus the Bible is clear in presenting each of the three members of the trinity as separate persons - each distinct - but each fully the one true God."
THE FATHER IS GOD.
THE SON IS GOD.
THE HOLYSPIRIT IS GOD.
NOT 3 GOD'S, BUT THE ONE TRUE GOD.
THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE.
Bible scholars say this verse was mistranslated. That begotten is not there.
@@wahiidstube
THE TRIUNE GODHEAD, THE TRINITY.
The bible says Jesus is from ancient times, from of old, from everlasting, and from eternity. HE WAS IN THE BEGINNING WITH THE FATHER. It also tells us that he created everything that has ever been created, and nothing that has been created was created without him. All things are held together by him. We clearly know that in the beginning the father wasn't alone. In the book of Genesis, the Holy Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters. We also know that when God created man, he was not alone because he said let US create man in our image.
In Psalms 89:27 it says "I will also make him my firstborn, greatest of the kings of the earth." God the Father exalted Jesus while he was in the flesh. Philippians 2:5-6 clearly tells us that Jesus Christ who was God in his very nature did not consider using the fact that he was God to his advantage while he was in human form. But Jesus made himself nothing by taking on the role of a servant.
We know that he is eternal and our creator. Not to mention, the bible clearly shows that the Holy Spirit is a person who knows the mind of God. The spirit of God has emotions, the Holy spirit teaches, testifies, guides, speaks, enlightens, strives, commands, intercedes, sends workers, comforts, and he also works. When dealing with Ananais, Peter told him that he had not lied to man, but he had lied to God because Ananais had lied to the Holy Spirit. The bible tells us that the Holy Spirit is omnipresent when it says where can I go from your spirit. The Holy Spirit is known as He. The holy spirit was involved in the creation and HE is also known as another helper.
"In Matthew 4:16-17 we see that the Father speaks out of heaven when Jesus is baptized - a clear distinction. We also read in John 17:1 that Jesus prayed to the Father, and he carefully made a distinction between the two in saying "Father... glorify your Son, that the Son may glorify You." In fact, 1 John 2:1 tells us that Jesus is our Advocate with the Father. It doesn't make sense to equate Jesus and the Father as the same person, as these verses would be rendered nonsense.
John 14:20 again demonstrates the personhood of both the Son and Father when Jesus said "In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you." Since we realize that we are different persons than Jesus, this verse would argue that the Father is likewise distinct from the Son and not the same person.
Also we see the Holy Spirit is not Jesus. In John 14:26 Jesus again makes this explicit where He teaches "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, He will teach you all things." Previous to this Jesus identified the Spirit as "another helper" (John 14:6). That word "another" is key. We also saw the Spirit in the Matthew 4 passage above descend on Jesus as a dove.
We know the Spirit is a person, because He has all the attributes of a person and not just "God's holy force" as some are wanting to believe. You cannot lie to an active force, nor can you grieve one (see Eph 4:30). Thus the Bible is clear in presenting each of the three members of the trinity as separate persons - each distinct - but each fully the one true God."
THE FATHER IS GOD.
THE SON IS GOD.
THE HOLYSPIRIT IS GOD.
NOT 3 GOD'S, BUT THE ONE TRUE GOD.
THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE.
@wahiidstube
It clear says that if you believe God, About his Son, you have eternal life, and if you don't you will parish.
It said eternal, if you say different then you are calling God a liar.
There is no works involved, only thing you have to do is believe, if you say different you are calling God a liar.
So easy.
@@wahiidstube you gonna believe some crackhead scholars, but not God himself. Lol.
Isaiah does not say everlasting father, it says Pele Y'ets al gibbor ad shar Shalom. It literally says he would be called the wonderful counselor, Elohim, Al is Short for Elohim, and everlasting powerful Prince of shalom. The word father is never mentioned it is added to many texts but it is not in the original Hebrew. And Elohim does not mean the Almighty in this context it's talking about what an Elohim is, it's because when you translate Hebrew into English you cannot use one or two words for one Hebrew word you must use many words or you will never understand it fully.
THE TRIUNE GODHEAD, THE TRINITY.
The bible says Jesus is from ancient times, from of old, from everlasting, and from eternity. HE WAS IN THE BEGINNING WITH THE FATHER. It also tells us that he created everything that has ever been created, and nothing that has been created was created without him. All things are held together by him. We clearly know that in the beginning the father wasn't alone. In the book of Genesis, the Holy Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters. We also know that when God created man, he was not alone because he said let US create man in our image.
In Psalms 89:27 it says "I will also make him my firstborn, greatest of the kings of the earth." God the Father exalted Jesus while he was in the flesh. Philippians 2:5-6 clearly tells us that Jesus Christ who was God in his very nature did not consider using the fact that he was God to his advantage while he was in human form. But Jesus made himself nothing by taking on the role of a servant.
We know that he is eternal and our creator. Not to mention, the bible clearly shows that the Holy Spirit is a person who knows the mind of God. The spirit of God has emotions, the Holy spirit teaches, testifies, guides, speaks, enlightens, strives, commands, intercedes, sends workers, comforts, and he also works. When dealing with Ananais, Peter told him that he had not lied to man, but he had lied to God because Ananais had lied to the Holy Spirit. The bible tells us that the Holy Spirit is omnipresent when it says where can I go from your spirit. The Holy Spirit is known as He. The holy spirit was involved in the creation and HE is also known as another helper.
"In Matthew 4:16-17 we see that the Father speaks out of heaven when Jesus is baptized - a clear distinction. We also read in John 17:1 that Jesus prayed to the Father, and he carefully made a distinction between the two in saying "Father... glorify your Son, that the Son may glorify You." In fact, 1 John 2:1 tells us that Jesus is our Advocate with the Father. It doesn't make sense to equate Jesus and the Father as the same person, as these verses would be rendered nonsense.
John 14:20 again demonstrates the personhood of both the Son and Father when Jesus said "In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you." Since we realize that we are different persons than Jesus, this verse would argue that the Father is likewise distinct from the Son and not the same person.
Also we see the Holy Spirit is not Jesus. In John 14:26 Jesus again makes this explicit where He teaches "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, He will teach you all things." Previous to this Jesus identified the Spirit as "another helper" (John 14:6). That word "another" is key. We also saw the Spirit in the Matthew 4 passage above descend on Jesus as a dove.
We know the Spirit is a person, because He has all the attributes of a person and not just "God's holy force" as some are wanting to believe. You cannot lie to an active force, nor can you grieve one (see Eph 4:30). Thus the Bible is clear in presenting each of the three members of the trinity as separate persons - each distinct - but each fully the one true God."
THE FATHER IS GOD.
THE SON IS GOD.
THE HOLYSPIRIT IS GOD.
NOT 3 GOD'S, BUT THE ONE TRUE GOD.
THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE.
so all of the greek scholars are wrong because you said so lol, what an arrogant brat
"Never do you ever find the word LOGOS in scripture to denote a physical being. It's not there." Look, I understand that things can be stated over emphatically for effect, but should have thusly been further explained or qualified by stating that John the apostle is quoting the Septuagint from 1 Kings, Jeremiah, Hosea and Ezekiel (just to name a few) where the word LOGOS is in fact personified. That's as far as I had made it into the video, and I have other things to do so I'll finish later- maybe these OT scriptures are at some point explained. If they are not, however, what I had quoted above by the speaker is an oversight in study, an assertion with sound arguments left unstated due to time constraints, points that will be addressed later, or a bold and outright lie.
@@matthewmctamney5267
The word became flesh.
@@matthewmctamney5267 " and the word became flesh." aka the logos became flesh. So the plan of God was the logos, and this plan was Himself, who being made in the likeness of men...
Pastor, you were doing fine with your exposition until you bought up 1Co 15:24-38, which you said would ultimately disprove the Trinity doctrine.
First, I agree that the Trinity doctrine is patently false.
But, you shouldn't resort to Paul's teaching (1Co 15:24-28) which contains multiple errors.
I illustrate below with just 2 fundamental errors.
#1.
• Paul said Christ must reign, and he himself will put all his enemies beneath his feet, before handing the Kingdom over to God.
• In Ps 110:1, the LORD God told the Lord (Christ) to sit at His right hand until He (the LORD) humbles his (Christ's enemies), making them a footstool under Christ's feet".
#2.
• Paul says after Christ has put all things subdued to himself, he (Christ) will then subject himself to God, so that God may be all in all.
• This fallaciously suggests that Christ, whom God put on earth to do His will, had acted (or was free to act ) independently from God.
Trust you will see Paul's errors, and avoid disproving an error using yet other errors.
The Trinity is manmade nonsense. one true and most high God the father Yah.
Isaiah 9:6 is not a prophecy about Jesus Christ at all. It has nothing to do with Jesus in fact the verse was completely hijacked. If you look at Brentons Septuagint which was written about 250 years before Christianity it reads " 9:6 For a child is born to us, and a son is given to us, whose government is upon his shoulder: and his name is called the Messenger of great counsel: for I will bring peace upon the princes, and health to him." Never minding all those capitals but look at Isaiah 38:5-6 you will see that Isaiah 9:6 is actually about King Hezekiah. There are many pointers here but busy cooking, but I am sure there is enough information to put the pieces together. I am not a Christadalphian, just watching your video 👍
Absolutely true trinity it doesn’t make sense at all
@@Yenhal7
THE TRIUNE GODHEAD, THE TRINITY.
The bible says Jesus is from ancient times, from of old, from everlasting, and from eternity. HE WAS IN THE BEGINNING WITH THE FATHER. It also tells us that he created everything that has ever been created, and nothing that has been created was created without him. All things are held together by him. We clearly know that in the beginning the father wasn't alone. In the book of Genesis, the Holy Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters. We also know that when God created man, he was not alone because he said let US create man in our image.
In Psalms 89:27 it says "I will also make him my firstborn, greatest of the kings of the earth." God the Father exalted Jesus while he was in the flesh. Philippians 2:5-6 clearly tells us that Jesus Christ who was God in his very nature did not consider using the fact that he was God to his advantage while he was in human form. But Jesus made himself nothing by taking on the role of a servant.
We know that he is eternal and our creator. Not to mention, the bible clearly shows that the Holy Spirit is a person who knows the mind of God. The spirit of God has emotions, the Holy spirit teaches, testifies, guides, speaks, enlightens, strives, commands, intercedes, sends workers, comforts, and he also works. When dealing with Ananais, Peter told him that he had not lied to man, but he had lied to God because Ananais had lied to the Holy Spirit. The bible tells us that the Holy Spirit is omnipresent when it says where can I go from your spirit. The Holy Spirit is known as He. The holy spirit was involved in the creation and HE is also known as another helper.
"In Matthew 4:16-17 we see that the Father speaks out of heaven when Jesus is baptized - a clear distinction. We also read in John 17:1 that Jesus prayed to the Father, and he carefully made a distinction between the two in saying "Father... glorify your Son, that the Son may glorify You." In fact, 1 John 2:1 tells us that Jesus is our Advocate with the Father. It doesn't make sense to equate Jesus and the Father as the same person, as these verses would be rendered nonsense.
John 14:20 again demonstrates the personhood of both the Son and Father when Jesus said "In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you." Since we realize that we are different persons than Jesus, this verse would argue that the Father is likewise distinct from the Son and not the same person.
Also we see the Holy Spirit is not Jesus. In John 14:26 Jesus again makes this explicit where He teaches "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, He will teach you all things." Previous to this Jesus identified the Spirit as "another helper" (John 14:6). That word "another" is key. We also saw the Spirit in the Matthew 4 passage above descend on Jesus as a dove.
We know the Spirit is a person, because He has all the attributes of a person and not just "God's holy force" as some are wanting to believe. You cannot lie to an active force, nor can you grieve one (see Eph 4:30). Thus the Bible is clear in presenting each of the three members of the trinity as separate persons - each distinct - but each fully the one true God."
THE FATHER IS GOD.
THE SON IS GOD.
THE HOLYSPIRIT IS GOD.
NOT 3 GOD'S, BUT THE ONE TRUE GOD.
THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE.
1 god(god), 3 persons(god)
1 god, 3 god
1=3
calculator says false
"hes beyond comprehension!"
i comprehend 1=3 is false, not real
god is 1, is real
God has given us what we need to be able to know Him
i'm muslim btw
I figured that one out before you said it. Still love you, bro.
God is omnipresent. God in the flesh became the last Adam, yet never ceased to be God. God IS SPIRIT. If you want to see God in human form (though immortal) and yet not ceasing to exist in heaven at the same time, look at Genesis 18:22. Acts 20:28 declares that God purchased the Church with HIS OWN BLOOD.
1 John 5:7 is all you need.
One thing all cults have in common is your talking about it. The Word is God.
: "And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is the truth." (ASV)
How is this all you need ?
look it up that verse was added in
There are those who declare that God the Father and Jesus Christ, are the same person. They contend that Jesus is merely a manifestation or development or role of the Father. The Bible, however, says that the Father and Jesus are distinct from each other. They are not the same person. There are several ways in which the Bible illustrates this truth.
1. The Father Sent the Son
Another distinction we have between the Father and the Son is that the Father is the sender and Jesus, the Son, is the one sent.
Jesus said that it was God the Father who sent Him into the world.
"My food," said Jesus, "is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish his work" (John 4:34).
He emphasized it again
By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me (John 5:30).
Jesus made it clear the Father had set Him apart and sent Him into the world.
What about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, `I am God's Son'? (John 10:36).
Jesus said that His words came from the Father.
For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and how to say it (John 12:49)
The Apostle Paul also testified that the Father sent the Son into the world:
But when the fulness of the time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of a woman, born under the law (Galatians 4:4).
2. The Father Testified To The Son
The Bible speaks of the Father testifying of the Son:
If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. There is another who bears witness of me, and I know that the witness which he witnesses of me is true . . . And the Father himself, who sent me, has testified of me (John 5:31,32,37).
In this passage, Jesus is speaking to the religious leaders. He says that He is not the only one who is testifying concerning Himself. Jesus mentions the testimony of John the Baptist and the testimony of God the Father. Jesus contrasts His testimony from that of the Father showing that they are two distinct persons. The Father provides additional testimony to the character of Jesus.
3. Jesus Prayed to the Father
The two divine persons-God the Father and God the Son-exist eternally and distinctly in an interpersonal relationship. For example, in the Garden of Gethsemane Jesus did not pray to Himself, but to the Father. In Jesus' prayer to God the Father, the clear distinction is made between the two of them. He prayed.
I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in me through their word; that they may all be one; even as you, Father, are in me and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you sent me. "The glory which you have given me I have given to them, that they may be one, just as we are one; I in them and you in me, that they may be perfected in unity, so that the world may know that you sent me, and loved them, even as you have loved me (John 17:20-23).
4. There Was Mutual Knowledge and Love between the Father and the Son
Scripture speaks of the mutual knowledge and love that God the Father and God the Son have for one another. Jesus said.
All things have been handed over to me by my Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal him (Matthew 11:27).
Jesus also said.
The Father loves the Son and has given all things into his hand (John 3:35).
5. Jesus Did the Father's Will
Jesus did the will of the Father not His own will.
Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us." Jesus said to him, "Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know me, Philip? He who has seen me has seen the Father; how can you say, 'Show us the Father?' "Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own initiative, but the Father abiding in me does his works. Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; otherwise believe because of the works themselves (John 14:8-11).
Jesus did not say He was the Father but rather He was the one who perfectly represented the Father. However Jesus testified that God the Father was with Him in a mystical way.
6. No One Can Get to God the Father Except Through Jesus the Son
Jesus told people to believe in Him.
Do not let your hearts be troubled. Believe in God, believe also in me (John 14:1).
The Bible also makes it clear that one cannot know God the Father apart from Jesus
Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through me. If you had known me, you would have known my Father also; from now on you know him, and have seen him" (John 14:6).
Paul wrote.
For there is one God; there is also one mediator between God and humankind, Christ Jesus, himself human (1 Timothy 2:5)..
THE SON (JESUS ) IS GOD
The HOLYSPIRIT IS GOD,
THE FATHER IS GOD.
NO 3 GOD'S, BUT THE ONE TRUE GOD.
HEAR O ISREAL THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE.
THE TRIUNE GODHEAD.
Scholars have long known that 1 John 5:7 verse was a forgery it was only inserted in later bibles during the 16th century but is missing in many existing Greek manuscripts of the bible. It was a spurious addition and for that reason alone is not included in many English bibles today except the King James and New King James version. It has no rightful place in the scriptures at all since it was clearly a forgery.
As for John 1:14 you treat it the same way the trinitarians do. You think the traditional translation is the correct one, when in fact the Greek can be translated: "and the word came to flesh (the human kind of flesh) and dwelt IN US.
egeneto sarx; came to flesh.
en himen: in us.
There are not hard and fast rules that require a translator to translate a very slippery word like egeneto as "became."
CAME TO makes far more Biblical sense, and if the word didn't come to dwell in the human kind of flesh which is all of humanity, then none of us would be saved.
Words don't become people. Words are spirit and spirit begets spirit....not flesh. John 3:6
I thought this at one time myself, but, correct me if I'm wrong, wouldn't "sarx" have to be in accusative form rather than nominative for egeneto to mean "came TO flesh" in that verse?
@@maxspringer01 Rules of Greek grammar don't apply when the conclusion results in conflict with essential doctrines to our salvation. Knowing who YHWH is, who Jesus is, and who Paul is and what they taught, are all essential to our salvation.
John 1:14 as translated in English Bibles conflicts with other prophetic texts that teach the "word will be in Jesus and in us."
If the word is not dwelling in you than you are not saved.
Where does the Greek text say sarx cannot refer to the human kind of flesh, as in humanity?
The traditional translation of John 1:14 leads people to believe the God of the Bible changes, when the Bible says He does not change his spirit nature.
So I ask rhetorically: Does God have 2 natures?
Of course not!
Greek scholars who agree with the traditional "became flesh" translation are obviously theologically motivated. Their Trinitarian indoctrination results in a presuppositional bias that conflicts with the nature of God and His word.
"Became flesh" alters God's nature to a flesh and blood human, which results in an absurdity.
"Came to flesh" keeps the spirit nature of God and his word as one, and doesn't seek to change God's nature.
Greek "Egeneto"; Hebrew "WAY-HI"
The Hebrew word with the same meaning is (way-hi). There are many examples in the Bible where the LXX translators used "egeneto" to translate way-hi in verses that render it: "..came to.."
Examples:
a. NEW TESTAMENT
i) "The word of God CAME TO (egeneto) John the Baptist....."
Luke 3:2
ii) "If he called them gods to whom the word of God CAME (egeneto)." John 10:35
b. OLD TESTAMENT
i) "Then the word of YHWH CAME TO Elijah..." 1 Kings 21:17
ii) "The word of YHWH CAME TO me, saying,..." Jeremiah 1:4
iii) "the word of YHWH CAME TO Nathan, saying, 1 Chronicles 17:3
iv) "The word of Yahweh that CAME TO Hosea....." Hosea 1:1
v) "..the word of YHWH CAME TO Shemaiah,..." 2 Chronicles 12:7
vi) "the word of Yahweh CAME TO him saying,." Genesis 15:4
vii) "the word of Yahweh CAME TO Abram..." Genesis 15:1
viii) "The word of Yahweh CAME TO me, saying,.." Ezekiel 6:1
ALSO SEE: Jeremiah 1:2, 11; Jeremiah 13:8; (came; ἐγένετο) Mark 1:11, Luke 3:22; Luke 9:35.
The above verses demonstrate the word of God is put into people, comes to people, and comes to dwell in people, but nowhere does the Bible support the idea that the word of God becomes the flesh of Jesus or anyone else.
God's word is spirit:
"It is the spirit that gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit, and are life." (John 6:63).
Spirit does not become flesh.
"That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." (John 3:6)
Words are spirit. Words do not become flesh. Words enter into the mind.
Notice how Paul refers to the word of God being IN the believers mouth and heart:
"But what does it say? "The word (logos) is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart," that is, the MESSAGE concerning faith that we proclaim: If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 10:8-9
Paul states: "let the word of God dwell in you richly." Colossians 3:16
God tells Jeremiah:
“Behold, I have put my words in your mouth.” Jeremiah 1:9. We see similar language used in Deuteronomy 18:18
END of PART 7(a)
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PART 7(b):
An Exegetical Commentary on John's prologue.
THE COMPATIBLE TRANSLATION OF JOHN 1:14
2. The Greek word "sarx" should be translated "humanity."
In Acts 2:17 Peter quotes Joel 2:28
"..I will pour out My spirit on all flesh..." The meaning of sarx here is better translated as mankind, which some Bibles do. (see below).
Paul states:
"All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds." (1 Corinthians 15:39) The "one kind of flesh of men" is a reference to mankind or humanity.
More than 80 percent of the time "sarx" is translated "flesh" it is associated with the sinful nature of man.
Sarx is also used in reference to humanity, mankind, all people, animals, birds and fishes.
Sarx is also used in reference to parts of animals and humans. The meat of animals is called flesh.
In Acts 2:17 Luke tells us Peter refers to sarx as human kind, all people, or humanity.
Note: the following translations of Acts 2:17 have the word sarx translated humanity, everyone, or all people:
i) The NASB: mankind
ii) Weymouth New Testament: mankind.
iii) GOD'S WORD® Translation: everyone
iv) Aramaic Bible in Plain English: everyone
v) International Standard Version: everyone
vi) Good News Translation: everyone
vii) The NET Bible: all people.
viii) Holman Christian Standard Bible: humanity
ix) Contemporary English Version: everyone
x) Christian Standard Bible: all people
xi) Berean Study Bible: all people
xii) New Living Translation: all people
xiii) New International Version: all people
Paul also uses flesh as a reference to all of humanity where he states:
"no flesh is justified by the works of the law" (Romans 3:20; Galatians 2:16).
When the context is not referring to the sinful nature of man, or to the physical bodies or parts of animals, and where the context is clearly about the human kind of flesh in the broader sense of humanity, the word "sarx" in John 1:14 should be translated "humanity, all people, or everyone."
Methodist writer Joseph Benson emphasizes sarx as referring to 'the whole human nature.' This indicates others have come to the same conclusion I have.
3. The Greek words "en hemin" should be translated "in us"
The Greek word "en" is commonly translated "in" and "hemin" is translated "us." Putting the two together "en hemin" can be rendered as "in us" which fits perfectly with the Bible.
The word does nothing to transform the heart and mind of anyone unless it dwells in them by being received and believed in faith.
The Greek preposition and noun combination "en hemin" is not always translated "among us." There are several Examples to demonstrate "en hemin" is translated "in us" or "within us." EXAMPLES:
i) Luke 24:32: within us; in us
ii) Romans 8:4: in us
iii) John 17:21: in us
iv) Ephesians 3:20: within us; in us
v) Philemon 1:6 : some translations have "in us" others "in you" (still referring to more than one).
vi) 2 Timothy 1:14: within us; in us
vii) 2 John 1:2 "menousen en hemin" is translated as follows:
"abides in us" ASV, NASB;
"dwells in us" Aramaic Bible in Plain English;
"dwelleth in us" KJV;
"lives in us" NIV, NLT;
Many other examples exist to demonstrate "en hemin" is often translated "in us" in the New Testament.
Paul says the word of Christ (the Gospel) comes to dwell "in" the hearts and minds of believers. (Colossians 3:16)
Translating "en hemin" in John 1:14 to read "in us" is consistent with the Bible, is logical, reasonable, and causes no conflicts with the Bible.
Are you aware that .. Many Bible translators removed God's Holy name
nearly 7000 times and replaced it with LORD.
They even admit it.
SEE the following quote ..
" .. the distinctive Hebrew name for God - usually transliterated Jehovah, is in this translation represented by "LORD"
-- Today's English Version Bible (preface)
Jesus is NOT God.
There is only one God both body and Spirit Jesus was the Body and the invisible Father is the Spirit that dwells in Jesus Christ. We read this in, Joh 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. John 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. John 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake. Also in, 1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. Another Scripture is in, Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high. Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom. Whatever the Son asks He gets,, or there would not be any creation. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God. John 1:3 All things were made by him, and without him was not anything made that was made. Jsus is the body and the invisible Father is the Spirit.
*_At 20m 00s, interesting take on John 3.13._* BUT CONSIDER THIS: Christ DID come down from Heaven, and he did *_Become the First_* to have ascended up to Heaven. You are thinking ONLY in terms of the physical body.
*_FACT:_* God cares little for these physical, human bodies we wear. Genesis 6-9 proved that.
*_FACT:_* God created man *_Twice!_* First, He created man in His own image (spirit, Genesis 1.26), and second, He created man from the dust of the ground (chemicals; Genesis 2.7).
*_FACT:_* God will not always dwell with the physical man, for he is also spirit (Genesis 6.3).
*_FACT:_* God cares more for that which looks like Him, and not that which is made of "dust" (John 3.6; and John 3, entire chapter).
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Am a Modalist and this man cannot understand that God who is Spirit and not a man BECAME FLESH . Jesus is God (Father-Spirit) MANIFEST in the flesh AND GREAT IS THIS MYSTERY 1Tim.3 16
Question if the 1 true God YHWH does not exist as 3 separate distint persons of 1 essence and nature equal and 1 in the same, then why did He say "let US make man in Our image and OUR likeness" (Genesis 1:26)? If Jesus is not God and only his son and a representation of the Father why do we worship Him as Christians? Wouldn't that be Idolatry? If the Holy Spirit is just his power and not a distinct person how can we grieve the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 4:30)? Also if the Holy Spirit is just God power how come is you blaspheme the Holy Spirit that is the unforgivable sin (Mathew 12:31-32)?
us refers to the two natures of Christ. in genesis we read YHWH rained fire and brimstone from YHWH, the distinction being between the visible fleshly manifestation of YHWH who met with Abraham and the invisible Spirit YHWH ( see john 4:24 God is Spirit ).. Us therefore refers to the two natures of YHWH not 2 distinct people.YHWH is not a different person from YHWH, yet YHWH rains FROM YHWH. There is certainly a distinction being made, but not that of people, but natures! If you read Luke 1 you will read that "He will be called the Son because the Spirit will cause the conception." Son therefore refers to the humanity of Christ. John 1 says the Word is God, John 4:24 God is Spirit, thus Christ is the Spirit manifested in the flesh. See Romans 8:9 which says it plainly, the Spirit of God = Spirit of Christ. So Christ is the Son according to his humanity, and Father / Holy Spirit according to his divine Spirit. Christ is fully man fully God. Note also Jesus said "destroy this temple and in three days i will raise it up again!" In acts we read " God raised Jesus" thus the "I" is a direct claim of deity,, God is Spirit thus it was the Spirit who raised Christ's flesh, and Christ refers to the Holy Spirit as "I." This is why the scriptures use Holy Spirit in us interchangeably with Christ in us. As nobody believes a jewish man is in them in a literal sense, we understand it is the Spirit of Christ who is the Holy Spirit in us! In genesis the Spirit is creating, in new testament we read all things were made through Christ, again because the Spirit of Christ is the Holy Spirit and thus the Holy Spirit in genesis creating is Christ creating ! The Word ( Christ ) became flesh = the Spirit manifested in the temple of man. Christ had 2 wills as a result of his two natures, the human will and the divine will. According to his humanity he willed to eat sleep and grew in wisdom, according to his divine will forgave sins, raised his own body, never grows hungry or tired and is omnipresent... This is why the humanity ( The Son ) was in submission to the Spirit, not 1 person inferior to another, but rather the human nature of Christ in communion and submission to the Spirit of Christ. Jesus said the Father was greater, the Spirit is eternal omnipresent all powerful, the humanity of Christ had a beginning, was not omnipresent, relied on the Spirit for power... In no way does this mean that Christ is not God, it is referring to the two natures of Christ in contrast to each other, not 2 distinct people.
Because the father and mother created children. 2000 years ago the father had his own son and his son is almost at the age of getting married. The father picked the bride. The Bible is the story of mankind and where we came from and how we should live. When a child gets hurt and needs comfort, who does he go to? Mom or dad?
Bible doesnt explicitly say that Christ had 2 nature...nothing of that sort.
@@roeltingzon758 except it does. 1 says the Word was God, then in John 4:24 that God is Spirit. Thus the Spirit became flesh. Spirit = nature 1, Flesh = nature 2. In Luke 1 we read he "will be called" the Son because the Spirit will cause the conception. The term Son refers to the humanity of Christ, not His divine Spirit, His humanity was begotten not His Spirit. Thus we see fully man fully God expressed in humanity + Spirit = 1 person.
@@JoshuaHults but actually the Jews never debated the true nature of Christ because they knew him to be only a man. Theres no confirmation from the scriptures that he was some God-Man or that he had a dual nature. Stating that Jesus is God casts doubt about his death whether if it was real or not...because if he was also God in the flesh then that could mean Jesus wasn't 100% dead...that he only pretended to suffer and then play dead for 3 days! That doesnt sound right or logical at all - Jesus then could have been deceiving people and his apostles. Imagine that he was merely putting on some passion play and just pretended to be dead.
@The Bible Channel - Discover the Bible! I just want to tell you one thing Brother? Jesus and God are one, and they are both God And for this simple reason? they can both forgive sins. And we know that only God can forgive sins. So Jesus is definitely, God and the Trinity is true as well. God bless
Oneness the faith of Abraham
Acts 2:38,8:16,10:48,19:5,22:16 water baptism in the name of the Lord Jesus for the remission of sins.
Read “David Bernard book the Oneness of God”and “””New birth “
There are those who declare that God the Father and Jesus Christ, are the same person. They contend that Jesus is merely a manifestation or development or role of the Father. The Bible, however, says that the Father and Jesus are distinct from each other. They are not the same person. There are several ways in which the Bible illustrates this truth.
1. The Father Sent the Son
Another distinction we have between the Father and the Son is that the Father is the sender and Jesus, the Son, is the one sent.
Jesus said that it was God the Father who sent Him into the world.
"My food," said Jesus, "is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish his work" (John 4:34).
He emphasized it again
By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me (John 5:30).
Jesus made it clear the Father had set Him apart and sent Him into the world.
What about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, `I am God's Son'? (John 10:36).
Jesus said that His words came from the Father.
For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and how to say it (John 12:49)
The Apostle Paul also testified that the Father sent the Son into the world:
But when the fulness of the time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of a woman, born under the law (Galatians 4:4).
2. The Father Testified To The Son
The Bible speaks of the Father testifying of the Son:
If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. There is another who bears witness of me, and I know that the witness which he witnesses of me is true . . . And the Father himself, who sent me, has testified of me (John 5:31,32,37).
In this passage, Jesus is speaking to the religious leaders. He says that He is not the only one who is testifying concerning Himself. Jesus mentions the testimony of John the Baptist and the testimony of God the Father. Jesus contrasts His testimony from that of the Father showing that they are two distinct persons. The Father provides additional testimony to the character of Jesus.
3. Jesus Prayed to the Father
The two divine persons-God the Father and God the Son-exist eternally and distinctly in an interpersonal relationship. For example, in the Garden of Gethsemane Jesus did not pray to Himself, but to the Father. In Jesus' prayer to God the Father, the clear distinction is made between the two of them. He prayed.
I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in me through their word; that they may all be one; even as you, Father, are in me and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you sent me. "The glory which you have given me I have given to them, that they may be one, just as we are one; I in them and you in me, that they may be perfected in unity, so that the world may know that you sent me, and loved them, even as you have loved me (John 17:20-23).
4. There Was Mutual Knowledge and Love between the Father and the Son
Scripture speaks of the mutual knowledge and love that God the Father and God the Son have for one another. Jesus said.
All things have been handed over to me by my Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal him (Matthew 11:27).
Jesus also said.
The Father loves the Son and has given all things into his hand (John 3:35).
5. Jesus Did the Father's Will
Jesus did the will of the Father not His own will.
Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us." Jesus said to him, "Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know me, Philip? He who has seen me has seen the Father; how can you say, 'Show us the Father?' "Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own initiative, but the Father abiding in me does his works. Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; otherwise believe because of the works themselves (John 14:8-11).
Jesus did not say He was the Father but rather He was the one who perfectly represented the Father. However Jesus testified that God the Father was with Him in a mystical way.
6. No One Can Get to God the Father Except Through Jesus the Son
Jesus told people to believe in Him.
Do not let your hearts be troubled. Believe in God, believe also in me (John 14:1).
The Bible also makes it clear that one cannot know God the Father apart from Jesus
Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through me. If you had known me, you would have known my Father also; from now on you know him, and have seen him" (John 14:6).
Paul wrote.
For there is one God; there is also one mediator between God and humankind, Christ Jesus, himself human (1 Timothy 2:5)..
THE SON (JESUS ) IS GOD
The HOLYSPIRIT IS GOD,
THE FATHER IS GOD.
NO 3 GOD'S, BUT THE ONE TRUE GOD.
HEAR O ISREAL THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE.
THE TRIUNE GODHEAD.
God is triune
Unitarian Christian centerblog ✨.
You don't even have a Bible you can believe is the Word of God. You are a Bible corrector. Not a Bible believer
THE TRIUNE GODHEAD, THE TRINITY.
The bible says Jesus is from ancient times, from of old, from everlasting, and from eternity. HE WAS IN THE BEGINNING WITH THE FATHER. It also tells us that he created everything that has ever been created, and nothing that has been created was created without him. All things are held together by him. We clearly know that in the beginning the father wasn't alone. In the book of Genesis, the Holy Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters. We also know that when God created man, he was not alone because he said let US create man in our image.
In Psalms 89:27 it says "I will also make him my firstborn, greatest of the kings of the earth." God the Father exalted Jesus while he was in the flesh. Philippians 2:5-6 clearly tells us that Jesus Christ who was God in his very nature did not consider using the fact that he was God to his advantage while he was in human form. But Jesus made himself nothing by taking on the role of a servant.
We know that he is eternal and our creator. Not to mention, the bible clearly shows that the Holy Spirit is a person who knows the mind of God. The spirit of God has emotions, the Holy spirit teaches, testifies, guides, speaks, enlightens, strives, commands, intercedes, sends workers, comforts, and he also works. When dealing with Ananais, Peter told him that he had not lied to man, but he had lied to God because Ananais had lied to the Holy Spirit. The bible tells us that the Holy Spirit is omnipresent when it says where can I go from your spirit. The Holy Spirit is known as He. The holy spirit was involved in the creation and HE is also known as another helper.
"In Matthew 4:16-17 we see that the Father speaks out of heaven when Jesus is baptized - a clear distinction. We also read in John 17:1 that Jesus prayed to the Father, and he carefully made a distinction between the two in saying "Father... glorify your Son, that the Son may glorify You." In fact, 1 John 2:1 tells us that Jesus is our Advocate with the Father. It doesn't make sense to equate Jesus and the Father as the same person, as these verses would be rendered nonsense.
John 14:20 again demonstrates the personhood of both the Son and Father when Jesus said "In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you." Since we realize that we are different persons than Jesus, this verse would argue that the Father is likewise distinct from the Son and not the same person.
Also we see the Holy Spirit is not Jesus. In John 14:26 Jesus again makes this explicit where He teaches "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, He will teach you all things." Previous to this Jesus identified the Spirit as "another helper" (John 14:6). That word "another" is key. We also saw the Spirit in the Matthew 4 passage above descend on Jesus as a dove.
We know the Spirit is a person, because He has all the attributes of a person and not just "God's holy force" as some are wanting to believe. You cannot lie to an active force, nor can you grieve one (see Eph 4:30). Thus the Bible is clear in presenting each of the three members of the trinity as separate persons - each distinct - but each fully the one true God."
THE FATHER IS GOD.
THE SON IS GOD.
THE HOLYSPIRIT IS GOD.
NOT 3 GOD'S, BUT THE ONE TRUE GOD.
THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE.
When Jesus say : if you see me you see the Father .... he was not talking abut is physical appearance :) This man in the video lost control ofthe biblical reality , the Spirit in Jesus is God NOT THE FLESH.
But the son is the everlasting father (father of continuity) refer to rev 5. When John wept ( right there ) is the end of humanity. However one was found worthy to open the scrolls ( for humanity to continue) so without Jesus successfully paying the ransom sacrifice, than the father would not have legally been able to raise his son ( by his own integrity and truth of law) this is why Jesus is the father of continuity ( everlasting father ) lesser translation. 😊
THE TRIUNE GODHEAD, THE TRINITY.
The bible says Jesus is from ancient times, from of old, from everlasting, and from eternity. HE WAS IN THE BEGINNING WITH THE FATHER. It also tells us that he created everything that has ever been created, and nothing that has been created was created without him. All things are held together by him. We clearly know that in the beginning the father wasn't alone. In the book of Genesis, the Holy Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters. We also know that when God created man, he was not alone because he said let US create man in our image.
In Psalms 89:27 it says "I will also make him my firstborn, greatest of the kings of the earth." God the Father exalted Jesus while he was in the flesh. Philippians 2:5-6 clearly tells us that Jesus Christ who was God in his very nature did not consider using the fact that he was God to his advantage while he was in human form. But Jesus made himself nothing by taking on the role of a servant.
We know that he is eternal and our creator. Not to mention, the bible clearly shows that the Holy Spirit is a person who knows the mind of God. The spirit of God has emotions, the Holy spirit teaches, testifies, guides, speaks, enlightens, strives, commands, intercedes, sends workers, comforts, and he also works. When dealing with Ananais, Peter told him that he had not lied to man, but he had lied to God because Ananais had lied to the Holy Spirit. The bible tells us that the Holy Spirit is omnipresent when it says where can I go from your spirit. The Holy Spirit is known as He. The holy spirit was involved in the creation and HE is also known as another helper.
"In Matthew 4:16-17 we see that the Father speaks out of heaven when Jesus is baptized - a clear distinction. We also read in John 17:1 that Jesus prayed to the Father, and he carefully made a distinction between the two in saying "Father... glorify your Son, that the Son may glorify You." In fact, 1 John 2:1 tells us that Jesus is our Advocate with the Father. It doesn't make sense to equate Jesus and the Father as the same person, as these verses would be rendered nonsense.
John 14:20 again demonstrates the personhood of both the Son and Father when Jesus said "In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you." Since we realize that we are different persons than Jesus, this verse would argue that the Father is likewise distinct from the Son and not the same person.
Also we see the Holy Spirit is not Jesus. In John 14:26 Jesus again makes this explicit where He teaches "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, He will teach you all things." Previous to this Jesus identified the Spirit as "another helper" (John 14:6). That word "another" is key. We also saw the Spirit in the Matthew 4 passage above descend on Jesus as a dove.
We know the Spirit is a person, because He has all the attributes of a person and not just "God's holy force" as some are wanting to believe. You cannot lie to an active force, nor can you grieve one (see Eph 4:30). Thus the Bible is clear in presenting each of the three members of the trinity as separate persons - each distinct - but each fully the one true God."
THE FATHER IS GOD.
THE SON IS GOD.
THE HOLYSPIRIT IS GOD.
NOT 3 GOD'S, BUT THE ONE TRUE GOD.
THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE.
Correct translation would be created for him and thru him NOT by him as most modern translations would say. Jesus is before the dust of the earth prob 8. Correct. But he is not from God's time. Times indefinate. God is outside of time, he created time by which man is bound, but God is not bound by time. Let US make man in our image. Correct he and his Son made all creation. The Father's delight is with his Son, but the sons delight is with the sons of men Prov 8. This is why the father says to his Son, sit there at my right hand, until I make YOUR enemies a footstool. Why did the Father not say, MY enemies or OUR enemies? I use the analogy of say I built a sandpit for my son and my son is playing in the sand pit. My sons delights are in the sandpit yes. But my delights are in my son who is playing in the sandpit. Also ask yourself God is the power, Jesus is the master worker. Could Jesus create without God? I would say definately not. Could the Father create without Jesus? Definately yes. But would he want to ? I would say no. If Jesus had any advantage whilst on earth. Would that not defy the whole purpose. For he was sent to destroy the works of the devil. The devil would be the first one with recall and could argue that God played unfairly. This is the whole integrity of the ransom sacrifice. That he was a man as scripture testifies many times. That he died without sin and without interference from his Father. See because otherwise Satan would have recall. We know from scripture he does not. Words like eternal and everlasting are used interchangeably when they actually have different meanings. Titles like God, Lord instead of the names of Father and Son. Life mortal and immortal, life and life in one self. All of these words translated poorly into modern bibles make things very confusing. I am not getting into a debate on Trinity verse non Trinity. I gave up on that many many years ago. just some things to consider. The TRUTH will make us free.
WASN'T THERE TWO NATURES IN CHRIST?, DIDN'T JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF SAY IT IS THE FATHER THAT DWELLETH IN ME,? DID NOT JESUS CHRIST SAY OR THE HOLY SCRIPTURES SAY THAT IN HIM DWELLETH THE FULNESS OF THE GODHEAD=(DIVINITY)BODILY,? AS THE MAN HE IS CALLED THE PRINCE OF PEACE AS THE SPIRIT HE IS CALLED THE EVERLASTING FATHER .THAT'S WHY (ISAIAH 7:14)IMMANUEL GOD WITH US,(2CORINTHIANS 5:19)TO WIT THAT GOD WAS IN CHRIST RECONCILING THE WORLD UNTO (HIMSELF)****SINGULAR PRONOUNS****
*Jesus wanted his Father's Kingdom to be Established and his Father is God*
Just read the Lord's Prayer. Jesus says our Father in heaven, speaks of his kingdom and his will being done and asks the Father to forgive sins and provide us daily bread.
Jesus did the work of his Father and represented him perfectly. In this way he was one with the Father, did the works of his Father and showed us the deeds of the Father. In the same way I can see that the wind blew down my fence and I know it's there. Jesus does God's/his Father's will so shows us God his Father is there.
It's his Father's Will, Kingdom, Name, the Father who he asks to deliver us and lead us to righteousness.
Jesus asked us to pray that his Father's Will, Name and Kingdom to be manifested and honoured as that is the reason he came here; to establish his Father's Kingdom.
You know I was raising Jehovah’s Witness and I’ve heard all these arguments, but after serious scholarly research, this person is completely wrong. The Holy Spirit is a person at least it is not a force. It is a he as far as God is a Trinity or not no one really knows and it doesn’t really matter as long as you’re worshiping Yahweh and excepting his son is the Messiah I kinda don’t care whether he’s actually, God or just God son in some other way because guess what? Jesus didn’t make this a primary issue at all. Neither did Paul or Peter or anybody else.
That is because to the Jews and Christians at the time of Christ the trinity was not a thing, the trinity was introduced as a doctrine some 300 years later by the nicean creed, we have lots of material about this, it is important to understand God manifestation correctly to worship the creator as he commands.
Above comment. You traitor
If Yeshua is God could not sin wouldnt be same as Adam.not perfect judgement
The trinity doctrine is just an invented, CONVENTIONAL doctrine. From a philosophical point of view it's a nonsensical theory, worthless. It's also directly contrary to the Jesus' clear words: indeed Jesus declares to be not almighty and to be just in the company of the Father, not with Father and Holy Spirit.
THE TRIUNE GODHEAD, THE TRINITY.
The bible says Jesus is from ancient times, from of old, from everlasting, and from eternity. HE WAS IN THE BEGINNING WITH THE FATHER. It also tells us that he created everything that has ever been created, and nothing that has been created was created without him. All things are held together by him. We clearly know that in the beginning the father wasn't alone. In the book of Genesis, the Holy Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters. We also know that when God created man, he was not alone because he said let US create man in our image.
In Psalms 89:27 it says "I will also make him my firstborn, greatest of the kings of the earth." God the Father exalted Jesus while he was in the flesh. Philippians 2:5-6 clearly tells us that Jesus Christ who was God in his very nature did not consider using the fact that he was God to his advantage while he was in human form. But Jesus made himself nothing by taking on the role of a servant.
We know that he is eternal and our creator. Not to mention, the bible clearly shows that the Holy Spirit is a person who knows the mind of God. The spirit of God has emotions, the Holy spirit teaches, testifies, guides, speaks, enlightens, strives, commands, intercedes, sends workers, comforts, and he also works. When dealing with Ananais, Peter told him that he had not lied to man, but he had lied to God because Ananais had lied to the Holy Spirit. The bible tells us that the Holy Spirit is omnipresent when it says where can I go from your spirit. The Holy Spirit is known as He. The holy spirit was involved in the creation and HE is also known as another helper.
"In Matthew 4:16-17 we see that the Father speaks out of heaven when Jesus is baptized - a clear distinction. We also read in John 17:1 that Jesus prayed to the Father, and he carefully made a distinction between the two in saying "Father... glorify your Son, that the Son may glorify You." In fact, 1 John 2:1 tells us that Jesus is our Advocate with the Father. It doesn't make sense to equate Jesus and the Father as the same person, as these verses would be rendered nonsense.
John 14:20 again demonstrates the personhood of both the Son and Father when Jesus said "In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you." Since we realize that we are different persons than Jesus, this verse would argue that the Father is likewise distinct from the Son and not the same person.
Also we see the Holy Spirit is not Jesus. In John 14:26 Jesus again makes this explicit where He teaches "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, He will teach you all things." Previous to this Jesus identified the Spirit as "another helper" (John 14:6). That word "another" is key. We also saw the Spirit in the Matthew 4 passage above descend on Jesus as a dove.
We know the Spirit is a person, because He has all the attributes of a person and not just "God's holy force" as some are wanting to believe. You cannot lie to an active force, nor can you grieve one (see Eph 4:30). Thus the Bible is clear in presenting each of the three members of the trinity as separate persons - each distinct - but each fully the one true God."
THE FATHER IS GOD.
THE SON IS GOD.
THE HOLYSPIRIT IS GOD.
NOT 3 GOD'S, BUT THE ONE TRUE GOD.
THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE.
@@reynaldoperez7285
What you say is wrong. You are sure that all is wrong because its ULTIMATE CONCLUSION IS WRONG: the trinity! If the trinity were true, then Jesus would say "I am in a trinity with Father and Holy Spirit". It NEVER happens. On the contrary Jesus crystal clear states "I am with the Father". PERIOD. Repeated four gospels long!!! Where is the error in your reasoning? You don't understand WHAT WAS MEANT FOR "SPIRIT", namely the Holy Spirit is not a THIRD Person distinct from the Father. He is distinct from the Father in that He is a Spirit, but He is not a distinct PERSON: He is the SAME God, just in a different form.
The Helper is not a third person (in fact he does not appear anywhere else in the gospels, NEVER with Father and Son to form a trinity!). He is just a “fictitious spirit" as here explained. Jesus states “I will come to you.”. But this of course won't happen in flesh and bones! It will happen that Jesus - who is in heaven, in another dimension - will simply SPEAK TO THE MINDS of the apostles. However, at that time people were not familiar with "remotely spoken words", or remote actions. For this reason the apostles would simply understand and witness that “the SPIRIT OF JESUS is inside them and is speaking to them,”. But in reality NO ONE, nothing will be inside the apostles, Jesus will be elsewhere speaking, in heaven.
A similar thing happens with the Father: “the Spirit of [your] Father is speaking in you.” (in your mind). The Father is elsewhere - in another dimension - but is present as a Spirit (the Holy Spirit) inside the apostles to speak to them.
Thus, according to the apostles the “Spirits of the Son and the Father” would be inside them, but the truth is that there is NOTHING inside them: the Son and the Father - who are AWAY, in other dimensions - are just speaking to their minds, that's all. The fact that NO THINKING Spirit is inside the apostles is confirmed by Jesus: the spoken words actually come from SOMEWHERE ELSE, they are just REPEATED “ for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, (from the Son, the Father...) that shall he speak .”
Thus the Holy Spirit is DISTINCT from the Father, but when you talk to the Holy Spirit you exactly talk to the Father. This is why blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is a very serious offense.
Thus, no human relationship exists between Father and Holy Spirit because they are the same. Only the Father in the form of a spirit is here on earth and in heaven (see Jn.4:23,24). NOBODY has ever seen the Father IN PERSON (Jn. 1:18) the world did not know Him (Jn. 17:25) only the Son did it (i.e. just in the past, not any longer).
the trinity is false, but Christ is God. the trinity comes out of platonistic philosophy directly. It is not founded in scriptures.
@@reynaldoperez7285
Your long comment is wrong. You are sure that all is wrong because its ULTIMATE CONCLUSION IS WRONG: the trinity! If the trinity were true, then Jesus would say "I am in a trinity with Father and Holy Spirit". It NEVER happens. On the contrary Jesus crystal clear states "I am with the Father". PERIOD. This means that NO FURTHER DIVINE PERSONS can exist. Repeated four gospels long!!! Where is the fatal error? You don't understand WHAT WAS MEANT FOR "SPIRIT", namely the Holy Spirit is not a THIRD Person distinct from the Father. He is distinct from the Father in that He is a Spirit, but He is not a distinct PERSON: He is the SAME God, just in a different form.
The Helper is not a third person (in fact he does not appear anywhere else in the gospels, NEVER with Father and Son to form a trinity!). He is just a “fictitious spirit" as here explained. Jesus states “I will come to you.”. But this of course won't happen in flesh and bones! It will happen that Jesus - who is in heaven, in another dimension - will simply SPEAK TO THE MINDS of the apostles. However, at that time people were not familiar with "remotely spoken words", or remote actions. For this reason the apostles would simply understand and witness that “the SPIRIT OF JESUS is inside them and is speaking to them,”. But in reality NO ONE, nothing will be inside the apostles, Jesus will be elsewhere speaking, in heaven.
A similar thing happens with the Father: “the Spirit of [your] Father is speaking in you.” (in your mind). The Father is elsewhere - in another dimension - but is present as a Spirit (the Holy Spirit) inside the apostles to speak to them.
Thus, according to the apostles the “Spirits of the Son and the Father” would be inside them, but the truth is that there is NOTHING inside them: the Son and the Father - who are AWAY, in other dimensions - are just speaking to their minds, that's all. The fact that NO THINKING Spirit is inside the apostles is confirmed by Jesus: the spoken words actually come from SOMEWHERE ELSE, they are just REPEATED “ for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, (from the Son, the Father...) that shall he speak .”
The Holy Spirit is thus DISTINCT from the Father, but when you talk to the Holy Spirit you exactly talk to the Father.
Therefore no human relationship exists between Father and Holy Spirit: they are the same God in different forms.
Jesus confirms that the FATHER IS A SPIRIT (see Jn. 4:23,24). He is either called "Holy Father" or "Holy Spirit" by Jesus, they are just EQUIVALENT names. This is why blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is a very serious offense.
Only the Father in the form of a spirit is here on earth and in heaven, NOBODY has ever seen the Father IN PERSON (Jn. 1:18) the world did not know Him (Jn. 17:25) only the Son did it (i.e. just in the past, not any longer).
@@JoshuaHults Yes.
Just rehashed up heresies from the early centuries this is laughable theology
So when Jesus said "Truely, Truely, I say to you, Before Abraham was born, I am" John 8:58 either he's a lunatic, a liar, a blasphemer, or he is who he says he is ??? I would say the Son of Gods claims are valid!!! Don't let Satan deceive you into believing a different Jesus than what scriptures say!!!! John 17:3 beloved!
But Jesus identified himself as the messiah. The Evangelists claimed that Jesus was the Christ, the Son of God. This makes him one other than God.
Jesus claimed that Abraham longed to see his day. His adversaries claimed he wasn't even 50, so how could he have seen Abraham. Jesus replies. However, a claim of pre-existense/ or messiahship is not the same as a claim to deity.
@@JosephSmith-ph4xr have you read Colossians at all?
You need to understand the hypostatic union...Our monotheistic God....one God is a relationship between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit which eternally existed together as One God! This is what the Bible tells us....only God can forgive sins! If Jesus isn't God, then what is he doing? Only God can give eternal life. Only God can raise the dead...etc....we must know who Jesus is because there are several false Christ's out there! again...John 17:3
@@MarkCurtis-eh3ue : I appreciate your sincereity,Mark and respect your views even if I disagree with them. However, please permit me to explain why your resoning is specious:
1. "Only God can raise the dead."- Have you forgotten the accounts in Acts where Peter and Paul raise the dead? Clearly even these miracles don't make them God in your eyes.
2. "We must know who Jesus is because there are several false Christs out there !:- ..John 17:3. However, this scripture, a prayer of Jesus, differentiates between the person of God and the person of Jesus. The messiah, Jesus ,is one sent by God.
3."Only God can forgive sins". This claim was made by the opponents of Jesus and they did not cite their authority for this claim and neither have you given a scriptural text that specifically makes the claim. Interestingly however, as God's anointed one, the promised messiah/Christ, Jesus demonstrated that he had been given all authority several times. One who is given all authority did not always possess it. In John 5 :25-27, Jesus, as the son of God, claims that he has been given authority to judge; raise the dead etc and that "even so gave he to the son also to have life in himsels"The fact that the Son was given life in himself , just as he was granted all authority clearly indicates that he did not always have these and so cannot be God.
4. You claim I need to understand the hypostatic union. I do, I simply view it as an unscriptural manmade doctrine from post-apostolic times , that was later introduced into the church by theologians educated in Greek philosophy. Can I ask you to show me a single scripture that says God exists as one being/ essence/ substance but three 'persons'. Can I ask you to show me a single scripture where Jesus or his disciples explicitly defend such a doctrine.
Although you may disagree with me, I would be interested in hearing your comments.
@@JosephSmith-ph4xr again, you did not read Colossians chapter 1 did you? We also baptize in the name of the father, son, holy Spirit don't we? Or do we baptize in the name of the father only if he is God alone. John 1:1-4 is this not evidence enough? How do we tiptoe around this? You must belong to the church of latter day saints? Teachings of Joseph Smith....and as you are making false claims about rapture, you are not indwelt by the holy spirit because true believers do not do things like this. I'm sorry if you take offense to this, but I'm calling you out as Jesus did the Pharisees. Your claims are not truth and denying who Christ is will have severe consequences 1 John chapter 2 please read and carefully disect it's meaning
In a Pigs Eye! You literally have to take a blind eye to the Bible to not understand the relation of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. Even the the Lord Jesus quotes it to you! Matthew 28:19.
Preposterously ignorant!
Will you really teach people to believe you over their Bible?
And John chapter 1 does not say in the beginning the Word was God, in the Hebrew which it was written in Hebrew not Aramaic or Greek, it says in the beginning was the son of Eloah, and the son was the word, and the son was with YHWH, this parallels Proverbs 8:22 through 36, the feminizing of wisdom is just literary license, it has nothing to do with gender. That versus literally talking about the Father and the son together. Not the Father and the son being the same being. For we know that Messiah is the wisdom of YAHUAH.
where can i find the hebrew version of this? i believe it i just want to have a copy to read
THE TRIUNE GODHEAD, THE TRINITY.
The bible says Jesus is from ancient times, from of old, from everlasting, and from eternity. HE WAS IN THE BEGINNING WITH THE FATHER. It also tells us that he created everything that has ever been created, and nothing that has been created was created without him. All things are held together by him. We clearly know that in the beginning the father wasn't alone. In the book of Genesis, the Holy Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters. We also know that when God created man, he was not alone because he said let US create man in our image.
In Psalms 89:27 it says "I will also make him my firstborn, greatest of the kings of the earth." God the Father exalted Jesus while he was in the flesh. Philippians 2:5-6 clearly tells us that Jesus Christ who was God in his very nature did not consider using the fact that he was God to his advantage while he was in human form. But Jesus made himself nothing by taking on the role of a servant.
We know that he is eternal and our creator. Not to mention, the bible clearly shows that the Holy Spirit is a person who knows the mind of God. The spirit of God has emotions, the Holy spirit teaches, testifies, guides, speaks, enlightens, strives, commands, intercedes, sends workers, comforts, and he also works. When dealing with Ananais, Peter told him that he had not lied to man, but he had lied to God because Ananais had lied to the Holy Spirit. The bible tells us that the Holy Spirit is omnipresent when it says where can I go from your spirit. The Holy Spirit is known as He. The holy spirit was involved in the creation and HE is also known as another helper.
"In Matthew 4:16-17 we see that the Father speaks out of heaven when Jesus is baptized - a clear distinction. We also read in John 17:1 that Jesus prayed to the Father, and he carefully made a distinction between the two in saying "Father... glorify your Son, that the Son may glorify You." In fact, 1 John 2:1 tells us that Jesus is our Advocate with the Father. It doesn't make sense to equate Jesus and the Father as the same person, as these verses would be rendered nonsense.
John 14:20 again demonstrates the personhood of both the Son and Father when Jesus said "In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you." Since we realize that we are different persons than Jesus, this verse would argue that the Father is likewise distinct from the Son and not the same person.
Also we see the Holy Spirit is not Jesus. In John 14:26 Jesus again makes this explicit where He teaches "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, He will teach you all things." Previous to this Jesus identified the Spirit as "another helper" (John 14:6). That word "another" is key. We also saw the Spirit in the Matthew 4 passage above descend on Jesus as a dove.
We know the Spirit is a person, because He has all the attributes of a person and not just "God's holy force" as some are wanting to believe. You cannot lie to an active force, nor can you grieve one (see Eph 4:30). Thus the Bible is clear in presenting each of the three members of the trinity as separate persons - each distinct - but each fully the one true God."
THE FATHER IS GOD.
THE SON IS GOD.
THE HOLYSPIRIT IS GOD.
NOT 3 GOD'S, BUT THE ONE TRUE GOD.
THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE.
@@reynaldoperez7285 nope
@@branchesofYAH
Yep
Yes thankyou. The truth will make you free. Thank you for your correct translation of John 1 and the parallel in Prov8. Love it.
Revelation 1:17. Jesus said: I am the First and the Last. Revelation 22: 13. I am Alpha and Omega, The First and the Last, The Beginning and the End. That is How God also Intrudced Himself in the Old testatment. your tag at 19:59- Jesus Said on John 8:48-59 " Before Abraham I was I AM. " Jesus was before the foundations of the earth. The bible said He was slain before the earth was formed.
Jesus is not Almighty God according to the Scriptures and no amount of abusing the text, as you are doing, will make it so.
Jesus HAS a God according to Scripture (John 20:17, Rev. 3:12, Eph. 1:3, 17, 2 Cor. 11:31, 1 Pet. 1:3, etc.) who he calls "the only true God" (John 17:3) whom he prays to and submits to his will (John 17, Matt. 26:39). Jesus' God did miracles THROUGH Jesus (Acts 2:22) and MADE Jesus Lord and Christ (Acts 2:36). Jesus' God was WITH him (Acts 10:38) and IN him (2 Cor. 5:19). God is the head of Christ (1 Cor. 11:3) and Jesus is subordinate to him (1 Cor. 15:27).
You lack context and understanding of the "proof texts" you mentioned. Read the entire Bible instead of memorizing passages that are stripped of context.
"For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus."
1 Timothy 2:5
@@Willie_Wahzoo Jesus is God. He was killed because His claimed . Read your Bible again. He forgave sin. They then accused Him of blasphemy because only God can forgive Sin. Again, He said in His own words in Revelation. I’m the First and the Last, Alpha and Omega. I don’t know what context you need there. They Hated him even more As He claimed to be THE Son of God. And don’t insult me by saying I lack context and understanding. The Bible is pretty clear on this matter. And I have not touched on the Deity of the Holy Spirit.
@@arutech2552 No he is not. He is Gods representtataive. Jesus had to clear this up to the Jews. He said you are Gods, but you will die like men..Yes Jesus had the mind AND character oF GOD yet never sinned,he might even look like his father, But his not literally God. there is only one God. Take Stephens stoning.. what did Stephen see?? THE GREATENESS OF GOD AND Jesus beside him, wheres the Holy SPIRIT?? My father is greater than i said Jesus. Even when he went to heaven his father had to tell him things that were to come to pass in REVELATION.... i havent scratched the surface either.
Father the God, The son Jesus and the Holy Spirit are not God Trinity....they are humans trying to appear as 3 Gods!!!
God is not Human. The bible literally said; “ God is Spirit and those that worship Him, must worship in truth and spirit. “ john 4: 24.
Do you really believe God is limited, do you really not see what the word says? Do you know what singular and plural means, this world’s in bad shape and you’re over here leading people astray. The doctrine of the Trinity is very sound.
Just come out and tell us that Jesus is Michael the archangel and then I will understand why you’re doing what you’re doing…
Liar
The Trinity is a descriptive word that teaches the Nature of the One True God, Yahweh.
Again the Trinity is a descriptive word describing what the Bible teaches in the Old Testament and New Testament about the nature of The One True God, Yahweh, who function through three distinct extension or person who a parts of Himself; The One God Yahweh is The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit are not three other gods; The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit is who the One God, Yahweh is. What the Trinity described is in the Old Testament and The New Testament.
📖 Read: Philippians 2:5-9 - Jesus is God but not the Father.
Because Jesus is God; He is the Word.
Because Jesus who is God emptied Himself of His Divine Power to become man; Jesus prayed to the Father. If Jesus had not separated from the Father, He would not be praying to The Father, because The Father, The Son and Spirit is who the One God Yahweh is.
📖 Read: Hebrew 1:5-12 - Jesus is not an Angel; and God teaches us Jesus is God.
📖 Read: Isaiah 53 - The Prophesy of who Jesus is.
📖 Read: Revelation 1-8 - God is Alpha and Omega.
📖 Read: Revelation 22:13 - Jesus say He is Alpha and Omega.
For Facts, Evidence and Truth on the Trinity research:
1. A Muslim through evidence accepted the Trinity, Nabeel Qureshi.
2. An Atheist through evidence accepted the Trinity, J. W. Wallace.
3. John Lennox
4. Frank Turek
An irrefutable proof that the trinity is false can be found in 1 John 4: 1-3, where we are told that Jesus Christ came in the flesh. If Jesus is the Christ then Jesus cannot be God because God was never called Christ.
THE TRINITY IS BEYOND REFUTE !! its 100% biblical proof
@@childofGOD1962 nope
You must have a severe adversity to truth. Trinity is a false doctrine inspired by satan
God is One. Not triune.
@@RNWFoster according to the tenach GOD is a one GOD in a plural form "let US make mankind in OUR image "
@@childofGOD1962 False. Thats not what it means
All you’ve done is prove you don’t understand the concept of the trinity. 1 being (the what) and 3 distinct persons (the who - as revealed to us through scripture). To say the Word is just a purpose!!? See Rev 19:13 - “and his name was the Word of God”. The Word (capitalised as a proper noun) was not a purpose, it was personified to us through the scriptures. Just like the Father is personified even though we know God is spirit, and the Holy Spirit is also personified as having discernment, speaks and grieves. An active force cannot do any of these. You proved your lack of understanding of the concept in your opening gambit trying to say that the Trinitarian should read Acts 10:38 as God anointed himself with himself!!! It’s like saying he prayed to himself before he was crucified or when he pleaded with his Father when he was on the cross. You limit the what of God as you only see the who. The fact we say 3 persons doesn’t mean they have arms and legs and a head! It just helps to distinguish each person/manifestation from the other. Not to be confused with Modalism where God is said to manifest into the 3 persons at different times! That is a heresy and can be easily disproved when the three “persons” or manifestations are present in the same scene Matt 3:13. Also look at Gen 19:24 where the LORD (YHWH) rained down on Sodom from the LORD (YHWH) out of the heavens. Two YHWHs? No! You just have to understand who The Angel of Lord is to make sense of that - the pre-incarnate Jesus.
Haha find that hilarious when trinitarians say u dont understand the trinity when they themselves don't understand it
The doctrine of the Trinity ist the First and clearest doctrine of the Bible.
If you've never read it, that might be so. The "doctrine" of the trinity is nowhere to be found in Scripture.
@@MarvelNot The Word "Trinity" is not in the Bible, but the context makes it clear, that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are one God, but three different persons. Look at the council of Nicae in 325 AD. That topic was settled once and for all in the Christian Church.
@sharegreats2157 Try a book by Richard Rubenstein "When Jesus Became God" for more on the Council of Nicaea and early Christology. He is Jewish and a professor of conflict resolution with no dog in this fight and no preconceived doctrines to adhere to.
The truth will set you free, and the opposite is equally as true a lie will keep you in bondage.
Shalom
@@garyp.9073 Mr Rubenstein is a Jew. That says it all. Christians should never allow a Jew to explain who Jesus Christ is or what the New Testament is about. Jews don't believe in Jesus. That says it all, understood?
It is NOT taught in scripture anywhere. Verses are simply taken out of context to support the idea.
Trinity is a Farsi word " سه گانگی - se-ghanegy " which means "[concept of] three [owners]".
Father is the builder and the original owner of the house [there was no divorce and the mothers were automatically co owners with fathers),
Sons will inherit the property to protect the mother and other siblings when the father is too old or is dead. Daughters were getting married and co-owned their husband's property.
The Holy is " خالی - khali '' which means when the property is vacant and the word Spirit is " از بین رفت - az-bain-raft " which means building that is in ruins or was destroyed, in this state the Church will take ownership of the property and use it for single women, children and elders with no support.
In the Concept of Trinity, God is the landlord.
The Trinity was the base of the entire Christian and Western Civilization.
The Council of Nicaea formalized Trinity as the official rule of the land and Constantin centralized and unified registering the properties (issuing deeds) and recording their owners' names, to that date registering and recording was done by local real estate agents and escrow companies of the time dominated by jews who were abusing and trafficking and abusing women and children who needed food and home.
Virgin Mary means that Mary the mother of Jesus was a Virgin when married to Joseph, her virginity entitled her and Joseph to the ownership of the land and ability to pass the home to their son Jesus.