MOLTE GRAZIE to Patrizio for sharing this awesome classic footage. If you want to share your experiences in aviation, email me at VASAviation1@gmail.com Discord server --> discord.gg/ap5reFs
It would be extremely helpful if you put the description of the video in the description so we can read the description properly! The problem of putting it on the video is that we need to go back and forth all the time to check what is going to happen.
This Video was good but I just would never be able to concentrate,with the constant chatter,if this young man gets through this training its just Hats off to him,this has to be one of the most responsible jobs that anyone could choose.i think they don't get enough recognition for what they do. Thankyou VASAviation.
ademar9988 No, you do not hold the pressure!, you use all the rules and regulations that apply and get on with your job. If You "hold the pressure", you will not last long at this job.
Agnes T Yes, it is quite noisy in the background. Let us say it is the culture. I have spent hours at New York Center, lots of controllers, all doing their bit. It sounded like a beehive, just a light buzzing of voices. It was a pleasure to see that. Loud voices are an ingredient of panic. As a controller you speak, calmly, to the point, and exude confidence in what you are doing.
Ruben Villanueva I like what you say about loud voices,you're so right and you can get it in all walks of life,I have watched videos on UA-cam of AT Control in Dublin London and other countries and found them to be very professional and exactly as you described,this video was good but seemed very busy,that's why I was wondering how a young lad being taught this responsible job was able to concentrate at all.
Ni Pr , it appears chaotic, this is just single runway operation. He has two holding over TAQ, and he is bringing some in from the right. Just a matter of feeding them into the funnel, one from the right then one from the left. Maintain lateral separation, speed adjustments, and vertical separation, this process just goes on and on. Trainee, is keeping up with his traffic, but I could sense the trainer, was getting concerned.
Actually, Italy (Roma ACC) was the first Area Control Center to stop using paper strips, changing to radar labels And today ENAV (Italian ANSP) is one of the leader for ATC tools improvement 😉
atc still uses the same screens because: 1(the green color is not hard on the eyes), and 2(the old tube equipment they use is not as susceptible to an emp(electro-magnetic pulse)). plus if it works great, why change?
uff this video is soooooo old. Alitalia still have the 747 and the screen are still Cathode ray tube. No close call at all. Just some vectoring. This is backstage of every atc. You should see if you put some bad weather in this scenario.
VASAviation - Please, try to be more accurate with your titles. No need to bait us to watch your videos. Those of us that watch are interested in aviation. As long as you provide honest videos, we will watch. Thank you, ATCer, retired.
Frank Hollein Yes Frank, it is called "making a string of Pearls", sit below the flight path at any major airport, night time is best, and you can see that "string of pearls" coming together.
Frank Hollein , yes, 3 nm between planes, piece of cake. It only turns to poop, if someone blows a tyre on landing, and the runway gets closed. Then you take that long string of pearls, straight ahead, and bring them back, if you have another runway available. If not, then you take them to the holding points, all the time getting altitude separation before they are stacked up. And start over again.
MOLTE GRAZIE to Patrizio for sharing this awesome classic footage. If you want to share your experiences in aviation, email me at VASAviation1@gmail.com
Discord server --> discord.gg/ap5reFs
when is this footage from? mid 90s or early 2000s i would imagine , because italia got rid of their 742s in 2002
The first 10 seconds of video have your answer.
okay fair enough, sorry about that, very interesting video btw
It would be extremely helpful if you put the description of the video in the description so we can read the description properly! The problem of putting it on the video is that we need to go back and forth all the time to check what is going to happen.
This Video was good but I just would never be able to concentrate,with the constant chatter,if this young man gets through this training its just Hats off to him,this has to be one of the most responsible jobs that anyone could choose.i think they don't get enough recognition for what they do. Thankyou VASAviation.
ademar9988 No, you do not hold the pressure!, you use all the rules and regulations that apply and get on with your job. If You "hold the pressure", you will not last long at this job.
Agnes T Yes, it is quite noisy in the background. Let us say it is the culture. I have spent hours at New York Center, lots of controllers, all doing their bit. It sounded like a beehive, just a light buzzing of voices. It was a pleasure to see that. Loud voices are an ingredient of panic. As a controller you speak, calmly, to the point, and exude confidence in what you are doing.
Ruben Villanueva I like what you say about loud voices,you're so right and you can get it in all walks of life,I have watched videos on UA-cam of AT Control in Dublin London and other countries and found them to be very professional and exactly as you described,this video was good but seemed very busy,that's why I was wondering how a young lad being taught this responsible job was able to concentrate at all.
hats off to these legends that work these old scopes. I'm glad to be on the new stuff.
A scope is a scope, if you know what your are doing, not a problem.
Yes, but I'm spoiled by the new stuff.
18003755686625.3914.25.17.393.3
-"speed 230 knots" -"Eeeeeh fregna!" 5:10
Where was the close call? Looked like lots of traffic in a combined space. Good vectors and speed control here kept everything legally separated.
Wow, and that was less than ten minutes.Kennedy Steve sure made it look easy.
Is it just me or does this seem a bit chaotic?
Ni Pr I finally figured out that they're trying to fit planes into a left pattern until the last minute of the video.
Ni Pr , it appears chaotic, this is just single runway operation. He has two holding over TAQ, and he is bringing some in from the right. Just a matter of feeding them into the funnel, one from the right then one from the left. Maintain lateral separation, speed adjustments, and vertical separation, this process just goes on and on. Trainee, is keeping up with his traffic, but I could sense the trainer, was getting concerned.
they are italian, what did u expect?
This is a trainee controller on a single runway configuration with some planes coming from both sides. That's why a supervisor is standing there.
zauru192 Now, that comment had to come from a rocket scientist!
Is this from the 80's? The screen looks straight out of War Games.
1995
They probably still use it. US ATC hasn't been upgraded in decades
5678sothourn sad but true
Actually, Italy (Roma ACC) was the first Area Control Center to stop using paper strips, changing to radar labels
And today ENAV (Italian ANSP) is one of the leader for ATC tools improvement 😉
atc still uses the same screens because: 1(the green color is not hard on the eyes), and 2(the old tube equipment they use is not as susceptible to an emp(electro-magnetic pulse)). plus if it works great, why change?
Mille grazie Patrizio per tuo video.
Prego!
Close call? Just some slight vectoring, and lots of speed assignments.
What's actually been an approach position since the beginning of aviation.
VASAviation - whst are talking about?
How close were they? Also, are you planning to do a video on the aircraft that caused the Antares launch to be scrubbed on Wallops?
I'm working on that video.
Liveatc.com
Can't edit for some reason, its actually liveatc.net
Why do they have to add a vowel at the end of every worda!??!
Is there a flightradar (like adsb exchange or fr24) with this interface?
Hey, where can I find a PDF of this airport's runway diagram? Like an Italian version of America's FAA website?
www.fly-sea.com/charts/LIRF.pdf
Type in, LIRF charts, on Google. A good way to get charts for flight simulation use. Airport (icao identifier) charts.
Thank you both! :D
Now there's also eurocontrol, which collects official air charts in europe. Registration is free and you get all the official and up to date stuff
If your looking for a video to make there was someone shooting a green laser at planes flying into Laguardia last nigh (Nov. 14) around 9-9:30 est.
DeLorean 221, maintain 88 mph.
uff this video is soooooo old. Alitalia still have the 747 and the screen are still Cathode ray tube. No close call at all. Just some vectoring. This is backstage of every atc. You should see if you put some bad weather in this scenario.
As old as 1995.
The 747 was the Air Yemen, not the Alitalia
VASAviation - Please, try to be more accurate with your titles. No need to bait us to watch your videos. Those of us that watch are interested in aviation. As long as you provide honest videos, we will watch. Thank you, ATCer, retired.
Yes it was Alitalia. They are speaking in Italian in the background about Alitalia jumbo. I believe is az611.
Once they all get in line, It looks pretty straight forward.
Frank Hollein Yes Frank, it is called "making a string of Pearls", sit below the flight path at any major airport, night time is best, and you can see that "string of pearls" coming together.
Frank Hollein , yes, 3 nm between planes, piece of cake. It only turns to poop, if someone blows a tyre on landing, and the runway gets closed. Then you take that long string of pearls, straight ahead, and bring them back, if you have another runway available. If not, then you take them to the holding points, all the time getting altitude separation before they are stacked up. And start over again.
Really amazing👍
is this controller new? I mean with the guy talking to the other guy giving instructions, it seems that this is like a supervised real world training.
Emmanuel Pacamalan It is, that‘s why the supervisor is there
Emmanuel Pacamalan Ah, you woke up and smelled the coffee!
AMAZING video!!!
First I thought it was some kind of simulator training.
molto interessante - mille grazie!
Nice video, Not really any close calls, SOme missed calls caused a quick change of plane, not really close call, Thanks for sharing.
It looks a bit chaotic 😂
beauty !!
SUPER COOL!!