Listening to a lot of these, I can't help, noticing how Aer Lingus crews and Irish ATC handle these issues far better than other nationalities. And no, I'm not Irish! 😁
I’m always astounded that in the US an emergency air craft, who has requested emergency services on arrival, will land … and easily 5 minutes of confusion can ensue as the tower tries to get emergency response vehicles and the aircraft on the same frequency… like it doesn’t *occur* to anyone earlier! Don’t get me wrong, ATC’s have a LOT to manage especially when supporting emergency aircraft - I’m just always surprised that it isn’t a routine standard of practice for any aircraft requesting services on (or before) approach: get them to set radio 2 to the frequency that will be shared with EMS/ airfield responders. So strange to me.
I really liked the professionalism of the ATC controllers (and pilots). Not even a slight sign of stress and very thinking ahead approach from ATC. Irish Airspace is in good hands!
Well there was ONE slight sign of stress. The pilot put 7500 (highjack code) in the box instead of 7700 (emergency aircraft). But that's really understandable if you have to do that while simultaneously putting out an engine fire, asses the situation and fly the damn plane :)
Because that automatically highlights the radar contact on ATC screen (i.e. you're not a green dot anymore, but a red dot now) - and also because it is standard procedure.
I really liked “we cleared the airspace ahead of you”. ATC put the pilot in the best possible conditions: no traffic, no need to request clearance for altitude changes, no frequency change requests - this really helped the pilots minimize their workload and let them concentrate on their aircraft. Outstanding!
Great from the controllers and the pilots here. All were calm, and clear in their communication, ATC clearing the airspace and letting the pilots get on with what they need to do. A perfect example of what great communication is.
Shannon Controllers are always calm, cool and collected as was the Pilot and FO on this Shamrock flight. It seems to me that some of the U.S.A. controllers could take some lessons from these folks. Well Done everyone.
What a great performance shown by the ATC. It was really impressive how quickly they reacted. Great job by Dublin ATC by giving all the necessary instructions and information so the flight crew could focus only on flying the aircraft. Also, more than great job by Shannon controller for solving the squawk problem. He wasn't screaming on the frequency "are you guys HIJACKED, I repeat HIJACKED???", but played that part like a real pro, so they could confirm presence of hijackers without being compromised. As someone said, Irish airspace seems to be in very good hands. Hats off to all of you, controllers, flight crew and ground staff.
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Imagine how pissed off you'd be if you hijacked a plane with engine failure.
@Cado Bell "Get this plane on the ground now or I'll cut you!" (squawk 7500) (#2 engine fire warning sounds, blinkenlights everywhere) "Oh, be careful what you wish for..."
Calm & collective by Pilots & ATC in Both Shannon & Dublin. They should use this transmission to train other crews, ATC on how to be professional durning emergency situations. Well done all involved.
Yeah, I remember "man with a knife"; for 7600 it is In German "76 - ich hör nix" (I don't hear anything), but I forgot about 77, you may be right with "falling from heaven" though; too long ago for me, haven't a fligth on my own for mor than 20 years ...
Probably not. They were smart to ask quickly to confirm. If the pilots had said "Yes that is correct" or something like that, then they'd know what's up.
good thing atc caught that quickly otherwise not only would they have been dealing with an engine failure, they also would've had a few armed fighter jets following them lol
Haha I actually read a small article only a couple weeks ago about this very issue! Don't know what sort of article it was just some random thing I read but I'll try and find it. Anyway, it said that apparently the Irish have had an agreement with the British government since recent times (last 2 or 3 years I think it said, since some sort of event), where the RAF will respond to these calls over both British and Irish airspace...so you might have seen a couple of Typhoons flanking the plane :D Edit: found it ukdefencejournal.org.uk/royal-air-force-asked-defend-ireland/
Yeah the Brits actually defend ours! Much like the French and Italians respond to incidents in Swiss airspace when the Swiss are off the clock :) www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2014/feb/19/swiss-air-force-ethiopian-airlines-hijacking-office-hours
What an inconvenient time to get hijacked. Brilliant coordination the pilots communicated well despite all they had going on and the controllers were brilliant in giving them plenty of options and not over communicating.
This is the best example of why flying is the safest form of transport on the plant. CALM PROFESSIONALS on the flight deck, ATC, in fire and rescue and on the ground. Co-ordination, planning and a safe outcome, well done to all involved.
Squawk 7500 is used when the plane is hijacked (7600 for radio failure and 7700 for emergency), which triggers fighter planes to escort the plane in case the worst happens.
Ohh, lovely! This is professionalism at it's best! Pilot was clear with intentions, ATC directly cleared runways and airspace. Completely as it should be done.
What a fantastic example of clear (ok, one mistake over squawk code) , calm , efficient communications and real help from ATC (including the discrete clarification of the code ) :compare to the ditching into the Hudson (admittedly a more urgent situation) where ATC simply did not comprehend what was happening .
The ATC was very quick and discrete to check that, if it had indeed been a 7500 situation anyone unauthorised in the cockpit would not have picked it up.
Ray G Good point, he doesn’t immediately know it’s a mistake, I hadn’t even thought of that but he definitely is discreetly making sure its not a 75. Given they’d seen the engine smoke he probably was pretty sure it was a mistake, still a good catch. (Though people act like disaster averted - even if it was intercepted, it woulda been the same result. )
> :compare to the ditching into the Hudson (admittedly a more urgent situation) where ATC simply did not comprehend what was happening . I don't think there was much more that controller could do. ATC separates aircraft, first and foremost. And that's what he was doing: keeping other aircraft off the nearby runways so, if able, Sully and Skiles had their pick. He didn't have the ability to clear the Hudson itself - it has special flight rules and excludes IFR traffic. I think the controller could possibly have gotten on frequency 123.05 with something like "MAYDAY MAYDAY, AN AIRBUS THREE EIGHTY MAY BE ATTEMPTING A WATER LANDING ON THE HUDSON NEAR GW BRIDGE, LANDING NORTHBOUND. VFR TRAFFIC USE EXTREME CAUTION. NY TRACON." But it's *very* easy to armchair quarterback that kind of thing - it would have taken some seriously quick thinking, and it doesn't change the fundamental dangers of the situation: a large aircraft over its landing weight making an emergency water landing in very cold water. Radar can't see aircraft below a certain altitude - the signal gets lost behind the buildings and other ground clutter. So they didn't know exactly where it went until someone had eyes on it. TRACON called for S&R services from the Coast Guard and NYFD. Like I said, I don't see them having a lot of time to do anything - that crisis was managed on the flight deck and the bridges of the ferries who were immediately present.
Eh, if anything, the one who was communicating poorly in the Hudson river situation was Sully. All the ATC could do was offer him options, which he did. Not trying to bash Sully or anything, aviate before communicate obviously and it was his call to ignore all the other suggestions and ditch in the Hudson instead, which luckily ended up fine; but no need to give the ATC shit either.
Good video, great review for aviation enthusiast and active professionals. Those engines are magnificent and very large, I hope that they are able to find out the cause of the failure. great job all around.
Brilliant that they told the pilots about the engine they shut down, no smoke. Incase the pilots had shut down the wrong engine which has happened more than once before.
...I know I'm late to this video, but based on this video/radar, the shannon tower atc? can talk to airplanes near dublin (ok more like meath or westmeath) too?? Like I know a flight between the two airports is short but I didn't think the tower frequency could reach that far XD
ATC knows the priorities, thought ahead, cleared away, gave the pilots full options to AVIATE. Did not pester with communications.. They could have said... "Lads do whatever the fuck you want to do.... we got your back, and good luck."
If the situation stabilize and they have to circle around to burn fuel anyway. Why not go back to Dublin. It's easier for both passenger rebook and aircraft maintenance, right?
They wanted a longer runway to land on. If I’m on a plane with only one working engine, I want a crew who are thinking of gliding distance to land safely and not what flight I’m getting on next or where they’re getting the plane fixed.
Yup, Dublin to LA flight just taken off would be loaded to the gills with fuel. Shannon is pretty much directly in their flight path after take off from Dublin runway 28L anyway, so less maneuvering and more time to assess the situation. Shannon has less traffic. And Shannon's runway 06/24 is longer and wider (3.2km vs 2.65km) and has a clearer approach (and for good reason was a designated alternate landing site for the Space Shuttle).
Well handled and probably correct according to checklists. But with a confirmed fire I wouldn't want to take any chances and rather land as soon as possible. Even slightly overweight.
Noticed one of the crew has an English accent. Are there many UK pilots flying with Aer Lingus? It’ll be interesting to know if airlines within IAG share flight crew between the different airlines in the group.
I think i recognise the voice of one of the Pilots. There was a famous Thomson 757 takeoff from Manchester several years ago. The takeoff was filmed and it showed the ingestion of a bird into the right engine and subsequent engine fire . The voices sound so familiar to that. Yes i have watched that video several times.
did anyone notice at 5:09 ua-cam.com/video/SjeWLN8RL_s/v-deo.html the pilot never readback the "Clear to land runway 06"? Isn't it a requirement to read back this specific clearance? And the ATC also never asked for the readback too.
Fairly Vague overweight landing can damage the frame of the plane. They're rated to take off a good bit heavier than they land. But he only did it after he was sure the engine wasn't on fire anymore obviously.
Every landing is nothing more nor less than a controlled collision. You are flying the aircraft into a huge immovable object - the ground. So they need to control all the parameters very precisely. It would be like driving your car at 30kmh towards a brick wall and having to stop with the bumper just touching the wall, every time. Hard enough and then consider if sometimes its wet and slippery or sometimes you've a ton of people and luggage, etc.
7500 squaw nearly had PC PIlatus fighter jets in the air,wait but they do 550-600 kph,a330-200 top speed is 900 kph.The hijackers would have crashed in The Spire on OConnell st by then.
The Irish do not have any fighter jets nor an Air Force capable of interdicting aircraft. There is an agreement that Irish Air Space is also covered by the Royal Air Force. In the event of a situation a couple of Typhoons would be scrambled and go supersonic to intercept. Distances between Great Britain and Ireland are not large.
@@bower31 no Royal Air Force would scramble. There are always typhoons on the ground fully armed and fuelled with tanker support. They would be in the air within 5 minutes.
I hate it when someone responds with the comment "No problem." The pilots don't care if it's a problem, it's your job. The correct response is "You're welcome."
Not being pedantic but on the flightdeck (and among the safety officers taking care of us passengers), nationality doesn't matter (nor should it). Flight deck => captain, first officer // pilot flying, pilot monitoring plus proper CRM. 'Nuff said.
The specified ICAO pronunciation of 3 is TREE. Ref www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/fs_html/chap11_section_1.html . That’s because the TH dipthong is relatively uncommon among the languages of the world.
Why do emergency aircraft usually choose to stop 'on the runway'? If the aircraft burns, the runway will be destroyed. Cannot they land and make a high speed turn off before stopping?
Something similar to this happened In the UK some years back. The pilot chose to leave the runway to an apron area but the wind direction changed and the fire spread rapidly and killed a lot of people. Rule of thumb is stop as soon as you can and vacate the aircraft.
Because the captain of the aircraft is responsible only for the aircraft and its passengers, the condition of the runway is not their concern, nor should it be.
@@celticlofts Yes, the Airtours flight. I remember it well because the company I worked at, did the photographs of the aftermath for the investigation. Which actually serves to support my point. Assuming the wind to be more or less down the runway, the plane should come to a stop with the engine of concern on the leeward side, which would require a turn, one way or another. The seconds extra to make that turn, "could" save many lives. Yet it still seems to be SOP to stop on the runway. Will it take yet another tragedy to re-examine this point?
Because a plane filled with fuel is heavy and needs a bigger runway to land. Also they have only one engine for the reverse thrust. They made their calculations and decided it was safer to get rid of some weight before landing. At the beginning you can also hear that they prefer to divert rather than going back to their initial airport because of the runway requirements
@@maxedww Reverse thrust does very little, mostly it just counteracts the idle thrust of the engines. So actually, a dead engine is very similar to a normal engine at idle with the reverser deployed.
TheLibrarianUU Aer Lingus haven’t had a crash since the 60s. And believe it or not every airline has technical difficulties. That airplane can fly on one engine.
TheLibrarianUU it didnt fly very far because it had lost an engine. just because a twin engine plane can fly on 1 engine, they werent going to risk flying across the atlantic. safety comes first (as it always should) and both the crew and ATC handled the situation superbly
Paul Furey I think an engine problem is one of the more serious issues - but particularly here as they initially got fire warnings and a smoke observation from ATC. Fire is the worst possible situation onboard an aircraft, and probably didn’t want to dismiss that potential issue.
In addition failure cause was unknown at first time, maybe simple compressor stall/malfunction - not serious for airframe. But maybe turbine tear off - very dangerous, often wing puncture and fuel tanks, electrical wiring or hydro lines. Smoke trail may sign oil system malfunction or hydro leak. No further information available, so going emergency was quite best option.
The A330 is a two-engine plane. The loss (shutdown) of one is most definately worth a MAYDAY call. PAN-PAN is just anouncing urgency of the following message...
PANPAN indicates, like you said, a non-life threatening event. A engine failure after takeoff is up there with the most dangerous emergencies, plus tower declared seeing smoke from the right engine. 200+ souls, 66 tons of fuel, and an engine fire below 3000 feet definitely deserves a mayday in my books.
![[REAL ATC] Virgin Atlantic DIVERTS TO BOSTON with Fire/Smoke in the cabin!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ghsyfIK-H8w/mqdefault.jpg)
![Aer Lingus A330 rejects take-off as engine ingests a bird departing Dublin [ATC audio]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/rDGxknh1xvs/mqdefault.jpg)
Listening to a lot of these, I can't help, noticing how Aer Lingus crews and Irish ATC handle these issues far better than other nationalities. And no, I'm not Irish! 😁
You are a brit yank canadian ossie or kiwi with a name like yours. Are you related to dick emery?
Yes, they’re so polite and professional while under pressure, bless!!!
That because we have the “ah sure, it’ll be grand” attitude.
I’m always astounded that in the US an emergency air craft, who has requested emergency services on arrival, will land … and easily 5 minutes of confusion can ensue as the tower tries to get emergency response vehicles and the aircraft on the same frequency… like it doesn’t *occur* to anyone earlier! Don’t get me wrong, ATC’s have a LOT to manage especially when supporting emergency aircraft - I’m just always surprised that it isn’t a routine standard of practice for any aircraft requesting services on (or before) approach: get them to set radio 2 to the frequency that will be shared with EMS/ airfield responders. So strange to me.
I really liked the professionalism of the ATC controllers (and pilots). Not even a slight sign of stress and very thinking ahead approach from ATC. Irish Airspace is in good hands!
They were all pissed up on Guinness.
Well there was ONE slight sign of stress. The pilot put 7500 (highjack code) in the box instead of 7700 (emergency aircraft). But that's really understandable if you have to do that while simultaneously putting out an engine fire, asses the situation and fly the damn plane :)
why would you squawk 7700 if you already declared? unnecessary
Because that automatically highlights the radar contact on ATC screen (i.e. you're not a green dot anymore, but a red dot now) - and also because it is standard procedure.
I really liked “we cleared the airspace ahead of you”. ATC put the pilot in the best possible conditions: no traffic, no need to request clearance for altitude changes, no frequency change requests - this really helped the pilots minimize their workload and let them concentrate on their aircraft. Outstanding!
I have a tremendous respect for the ATC, The Pilots and The Fire Crews. Very Professional under A nerve racking experience.
Great from the controllers and the pilots here. All were calm, and clear in their communication, ATC clearing the airspace and letting the pilots get on with what they need to do. A perfect example of what great communication is.
My sister and husband were on this plane, so glad everything went well they were so terrified !
What was your sister doing with your husband? Eh?
Why is your sister with your husband lmao ?
Your husband fine, but you sister is kinda a bitch.
How did they know what'was going on?
I love the careful way the controller asked about the squawk code
Shannon Controllers are always calm, cool and collected as was the Pilot and FO on this Shamrock flight. It seems to me that some of the U.S.A. controllers could take some lessons from these folks. Well Done everyone.
Amazing response of the ATC
Skilful and professional
Great job guys!
What a great performance shown by the ATC. It was really impressive how quickly they reacted. Great job by Dublin ATC by giving all the necessary instructions and information so the flight crew could focus only on flying the aircraft. Also, more than great job by Shannon controller for solving the squawk problem. He wasn't screaming on the frequency "are you guys HIJACKED, I repeat HIJACKED???", but played that part like a real pro, so they could confirm presence of hijackers without being compromised. As someone said, Irish airspace seems to be in very good hands. Hats off to all of you, controllers, flight crew and ground staff.
Imagine how pissed off you'd be if you hijacked a plane with engine failure.
Seán O'Nilbud lol, I wonder if allah would seem so akbar then. (YES IM STEREOTYPING HIJACKERS BOOOO)
@Cado Bell "Get this plane on the ground now or I'll cut you!"
(squawk 7500)
(#2 engine fire warning sounds, blinkenlights everywhere)
"Oh, be careful what you wish for..."
Calm & collective by Pilots & ATC in Both Shannon & Dublin. They should use this transmission to train other crews, ATC on how to be professional durning emergency situations. Well done all involved.
As professional as it gets. Well done all. Excellent presentation Dublin as well.
Squawk Codes:
7500 Hijack
7700 emergency
Glad that they made a safe landing and then everyone was alright.
RTM you forget 7600 communication failure 👍
Kevin Byrne Yes, I was just mentioning the two because he was initially squawking 7500 and the tower asked him to confirm that code. Cheers!
Yeah, I guess the controller had a little shock about 7500 after all what happened in the last years ...
Captain Joe gave some good phrases to remember thosw Squawks
75 - man with a knife
But I forgot the others...
I think it was 77- falling from heaven?
Yeah, I remember "man with a knife"; for 7600 it is In German "76 - ich hör nix" (I don't hear anything), but I forgot about 77, you may be right with "falling from heaven" though; too long ago for me, haven't a fligth on my own for mor than 20 years ...
Yet again, fantastic effort from the crew. ATC and those on the ground
That squawk code though - bet the controller needed a new set of pants after seeing that flash up
TheStrickland94 it doesn’t sound like he actually squawked it. He probably typed in 7700 but accidentally said 7500
IVoidwarrantys the fact he said 77 coming up indicates they had entered 75
Would you panic if you have one emergency and one 7x00 code on screen?
Probably not. They were smart to ask quickly to confirm. If the pilots had said "Yes that is correct" or something like that, then they'd know what's up.
Well.... squaking 7500 could've made that a whole lot more interesting.
good thing atc caught that quickly otherwise not only would they have been dealing with an engine failure, they also would've had a few armed fighter jets following them lol
As far as I'm aware, they don't even have any armed aircraft, save a small M2 machine gun that can be mounted on their Pilatus single prop trainers.
Haha I actually read a small article only a couple weeks ago about this very issue! Don't know what sort of article it was just some random thing I read but I'll try and find it. Anyway, it said that apparently the Irish have had an agreement with the British government since recent times (last 2 or 3 years I think it said, since some sort of event), where the RAF will respond to these calls over both British and Irish airspace...so you might have seen a couple of Typhoons flanking the plane :D
Edit: found it
ukdefencejournal.org.uk/royal-air-force-asked-defend-ireland/
Yeah the Brits actually defend ours! Much like the French and Italians respond to incidents in Swiss airspace when the Swiss are off the clock :)
www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2014/feb/19/swiss-air-force-ethiopian-airlines-hijacking-office-hours
But beware the swiss navy, that force is an absolute beast!
What an inconvenient time to get hijacked. Brilliant coordination the pilots communicated well despite all they had going on and the controllers were brilliant in giving them plenty of options and not over communicating.
Also clever of the controller to ask to confirm Squawk rather than asking over the air are you hijacked 😁
Absolute textbook work by the crew, controllers in the towers and enroute plus the rescue crews.
This is the best example of why flying is the safest form of transport on the plant. CALM PROFESSIONALS on the flight deck, ATC, in fire and rescue and on the ground. Co-ordination, planning and a safe outcome, well done to all involved.
Until the Cheeto-in-chief starts to gut the ATC service ... the flying in the US will be a nightmare ...
hahah he nearly got the fighter jets out with that squawk
Haha I was thinking the same! Good catch by the controller
Which fighters? ;)
Squawk 7500 is used when the plane is hijacked (7600 for radio failure and 7700 for emergency), which triggers fighter planes to escort the plane in case the worst happens.
Schoolboy error lol
Kim Pong Code does NOT initiate Military Response automatically. That decision comes if and as the situation evolves.
Great. Thank God. No casualties and no injuries. Great news.
+Rory O'connor
I doubt your imaginary friend had a lot to do with the situation !!
What has God to do with this,?
Well done to Dublin and Shannon ATC, and to the flight crew. Beautifully handled.
From a heavy jet pilot, well done crew!!
Very calm response by the flight crew and all Atc staff. 278 people saved 👍
The ATC asks the pilot what his intentions are like he's asking a guy down the pub if he has plans for the weekend. Only an Irish accent can do that 😂
Cool that there is a video about this, i was listening to it on LIVEATC while it happened.
ATC is just fabulous in helping.
Very professional... the detail in their comms was great.
I love the "Just another day at the office" vibe that the Pilots and controllers give out.
What a brilliant airline 🇮🇪☘️
Ohh, lovely! This is professionalism at it's best! Pilot was clear with intentions, ATC directly cleared runways and airspace. Completely as it should be done.
What a fantastic example of clear (ok, one mistake over squawk code) , calm , efficient communications and real help from ATC (including the discrete clarification of the code ) :compare to the ditching into the Hudson (admittedly a more urgent situation) where ATC simply did not comprehend what was happening .
The ATC was very quick and discrete to check that, if it had indeed been a 7500 situation anyone unauthorised in the cockpit would not have picked it up.
Ray G Good point, he doesn’t immediately know it’s a mistake, I hadn’t even thought of that but he definitely is discreetly making sure its not a 75. Given they’d seen the engine smoke he probably was pretty sure it was a mistake, still a good catch.
(Though people act like disaster averted - even if it was intercepted, it woulda been the same result. )
> :compare to the ditching into the Hudson (admittedly a more urgent situation) where ATC simply did not comprehend what was happening .
I don't think there was much more that controller could do. ATC separates aircraft, first and foremost. And that's what he was doing: keeping other aircraft off the nearby runways so, if able, Sully and Skiles had their pick. He didn't have the ability to clear the Hudson itself - it has special flight rules and excludes IFR traffic.
I think the controller could possibly have gotten on frequency 123.05 with something like "MAYDAY MAYDAY, AN AIRBUS THREE EIGHTY MAY BE ATTEMPTING A WATER LANDING ON THE HUDSON NEAR GW BRIDGE, LANDING NORTHBOUND. VFR TRAFFIC USE EXTREME CAUTION. NY TRACON." But it's *very* easy to armchair quarterback that kind of thing - it would have taken some seriously quick thinking, and it doesn't change the fundamental dangers of the situation: a large aircraft over its landing weight making an emergency water landing in very cold water.
Radar can't see aircraft below a certain altitude - the signal gets lost behind the buildings and other ground clutter. So they didn't know exactly where it went until someone had eyes on it. TRACON called for S&R services from the Coast Guard and NYFD. Like I said, I don't see them having a lot of time to do anything - that crisis was managed on the flight deck and the bridges of the ferries who were immediately present.
Eh, if anything, the one who was communicating poorly in the Hudson river situation was Sully. All the ATC could do was offer him options, which he did.
Not trying to bash Sully or anything, aviate before communicate obviously and it was his call to ignore all the other suggestions and ditch in the Hudson instead, which luckily ended up fine; but no need to give the ATC shit either.
Superb professionalism from all parties.
Those are proper controllers. Hats off. 👍
Good video, great review for aviation enthusiast and active professionals. Those engines are magnificent and very large, I hope that they are able to find out the cause of the failure. great job all around.
Now that was professionalism...well done to all
Superb professionalism!
excellent handling of the situation
It's lucky Shannon has a longer runway for emergencies it's just a shame airlines don't use our airport 😔
Wow - so glad it turned out well. Handled so professionally by the pilots and ATC. On what date did this occur?
Day it was uploaded I think.
Great job to all involved.....
So calm and professional. Envious.
Awesome communication well done!
Stuff like this should make nervous flyers more relaxed.
Very interesting, glad it’s all ok.
i aspire to be this level of cool when my engine explodes on take off.
Great ATC..
isn't the squawk code 7500 for a hijacking? that coulda turned out really badly lol
I bet the engine ate bird on take off. Well done crews and ATC taking care of the plane and passengers for a safe landing!
I was on that flight in December
When I grow up I want to be like that Captian
Sweating with your heart trying to bust out through your ribs.
Brilliant that they told the pilots about the engine they shut down, no smoke. Incase the pilots had shut down the wrong engine which has happened more than once before.
From experience that gets u a wonderful look at that Irish countryside.
...I know I'm late to this video, but based on this video/radar, the shannon tower atc? can talk to airplanes near dublin (ok more like meath or westmeath) too?? Like I know a flight between the two airports is short but I didn't think the tower frequency could reach that far XD
Greetings from México!
Why is there so much background noise? I thought it all went digital. Sounds like me trying to listen to Atlantic 252 on the radio.
Solid brass shamrocks!!!
ATC knows the priorities, thought ahead, cleared away, gave the pilots full options to AVIATE. Did not pester with communications.. They could have said... "Lads do whatever the fuck you want to do.... we got your back, and good luck."
Good video
When the controller said ?left engine smoke, and the pilot said right engine - reminded me of British Midland that crashed going into EMA
Erm that could have been interesting squawking 7500, scrambled fighters with that!
How much fuel do you think he burned by doing that one hold? Would it make much difference?
Fuel it the least of their problems. Getting the aircraft back down safely is the priority in any situation. Screw the fuel.
really impressive!
yesterday around 19:00 was a emergancy in Dublin with Ryanair during landing, pax felt sick with ambulance 😉
Damn I love EI-LAX that made me sad
Kai Preshaw it was the engine not the plane. Ive flown her often shes a good bird
That 7500 could have had interesting results...
Dublin Aviation, do you have a network of radio scanners to capture Shannon and Dublin ATC?
If the situation stabilize and they have to circle around to burn fuel anyway. Why not go back to Dublin. It's easier for both passenger rebook and aircraft maintenance, right?
They wanted a longer runway to land on. If I’m on a plane with only one working engine, I want a crew who are thinking of gliding distance to land safely and not what flight I’m getting on next or where they’re getting the plane fixed.
Why not return immediately to Dublin and get on the ground sooner?
Yup, Dublin to LA flight just taken off would be loaded to the gills with fuel. Shannon is pretty much directly in their flight path after take off from Dublin runway 28L anyway, so less maneuvering and more time to assess the situation. Shannon has less traffic. And Shannon's runway 06/24 is longer and wider (3.2km vs 2.65km) and has a clearer approach (and for good reason was a designated alternate landing site for the Space Shuttle).
Yet another Ryanair success
Well handled and probably correct according to checklists. But with a confirmed fire I wouldn't want to take any chances and rather land as soon as possible. Even slightly overweight.
why feet?
I've never heard them refer to altitude in meters, it's probably system wide as they don't want any confusion.
Noticed one of the crew has an English accent. Are there many UK pilots flying with Aer Lingus? It’ll be interesting to know if airlines within IAG share flight crew between the different airlines in the group.
Nicky L Ahh ok, thanks. Yes, my Mum’s eligible being half Irish.
Love the Irish blokes, so cool.
Aer Lingus will be adding a fourth leaf to the clover on the tail.
7500 eeehhvvv 7700
( we need to hide that bottle now)😆 good video!
I think i recognise the voice of one of the Pilots. There was a famous Thomson 757 takeoff from Manchester several years ago. The takeoff was filmed and it showed the ingestion of a bird into the right engine and subsequent engine fire . The voices sound so familiar to that. Yes i have watched that video several times.
did anyone notice at 5:09 ua-cam.com/video/SjeWLN8RL_s/v-deo.html the pilot never readback the "Clear to land runway 06"? Isn't it a requirement to read back this specific clearance? And the ATC also never asked for the readback too.
Thers allways one 🤡
Why do they want to burn off some fuel before they land?
Fairly Vague overweight landing can damage the frame of the plane. They're rated to take off a good bit heavier than they land. But he only did it after he was sure the engine wasn't on fire anymore obviously.
Every landing is nothing more nor less than a controlled collision. You are flying the aircraft into a huge immovable object - the ground. So they need to control all the parameters very precisely. It would be like driving your car at 30kmh towards a brick wall and having to stop with the bumper just touching the wall, every time. Hard enough and then consider if sometimes its wet and slippery or sometimes you've a ton of people and luggage, etc.
7500 squaw nearly had PC PIlatus fighter jets in the air,wait but they do 550-600 kph,a330-200 top speed is 900 kph.The hijackers would have crashed in The Spire on OConnell st by then.
They probably would have had fighters from the nearest NATO aircraft carriers respond
I am sure the Irish Republic has a halfway decent air force.
@@ronaldderooij1774 haha..of course we do..a few kites and a half dozen drones is all we need here.
The Irish do not have any fighter jets nor an Air Force capable of interdicting aircraft. There is an agreement that Irish Air Space is also covered by the Royal Air Force. In the event of a situation a couple of Typhoons would be scrambled and go supersonic to intercept. Distances between Great Britain and Ireland are not large.
@@bower31 no Royal Air Force would scramble. There are always typhoons on the ground fully armed and fuelled with tanker support. They would be in the air within 5 minutes.
Truth be known, the probably 66.6 tons of fuel onboard, but there was no way in hell, pardon the pun, they were going to say that.
I hate it when someone responds with the comment "No problem." The pilots don't care if it's a problem, it's your job. The correct response is "You're welcome."
Stupid remark
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Halfway across the ocean there's 250 dead
Just my opinion but I think ATC's should be paid the same as air crews ?
Mi mamá seyama María Catalina aguilar Castro y hermano Gredos armando aguilar Castro y hijo José Alberto Castañeda aguilar
Who was the captain, the Irish guy or the Brit?
Irish guy.
Not being pedantic but on the flightdeck (and among the safety officers taking care of us passengers), nationality doesn't matter (nor should it). Flight deck => captain, first officer // pilot flying, pilot monitoring plus proper CRM. 'Nuff said.
Tree thousand feet. Cracking accent 😎
The specified ICAO pronunciation of 3 is TREE. Ref www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/fs_html/chap11_section_1.html . That’s because the TH dipthong is relatively uncommon among the languages of the world.
Why do emergency aircraft usually choose to stop 'on the runway'? If the aircraft burns, the runway will be destroyed. Cannot they land and make a high speed turn off before stopping?
Something similar to this happened In the UK some years back. The pilot chose to leave the runway to an apron area but the wind direction changed and the fire spread rapidly and killed a lot of people. Rule of thumb is stop as soon as you can and vacate the aircraft.
Why don't ya try that sometime.....?
Because the captain of the aircraft is responsible only for the aircraft and its passengers, the condition of the runway is not their concern, nor should it be.
@@celticlofts Yes, the Airtours flight. I remember it well because the company I worked at, did the photographs of the aftermath for the investigation. Which actually serves to support my point. Assuming the wind to be more or less down the runway, the plane should come to a stop with the engine of concern on the leeward side, which would require a turn, one way or another. The seconds extra to make that turn, "could" save many lives. Yet it still seems to be SOP to stop on the runway. Will it take yet another tragedy to re-examine this point?
That British pilot was amazing
If given a chsnce, I will gladly jump to a plane piloted by these pilots.
Y he put 7500
trolley dolly burning the sausages again.
Has engine fire, squawks hijacking.
lmao
Shyte!
they messed up on that Squawk code lol....
Estuary Essex pilot? Lol
why waste so much time trying to burn fuel just land and save lives
Because a plane filled with fuel is heavy and needs a bigger runway to land. Also they have only one engine for the reverse thrust. They made their calculations and decided it was safer to get rid of some weight before landing.
At the beginning you can also hear that they prefer to divert rather than going back to their initial airport because of the runway requirements
It's to keep the heater on. Probably was a cold day...
@@maxedww Reverse thrust does very little, mostly it just counteracts the idle thrust of the engines. So actually, a dead engine is very similar to a normal engine at idle with the reverser deployed.
EI-LAX going to LAX haha
Ook! [Dood, please. Aer Lingus is my primary mode of transport. And last 100 videos were on them having crashes....]
TheLibrarianUU Aer Lingus haven’t had a crash since the 60s. And believe it or not every airline has technical difficulties. That airplane can fly on one engine.
Ook! [Didn't fly very far.]
List all 100 videos please
Exactly which video did you watch, of any Aer Lingus aircraft being involved in a crash please? You claim to have seen a hundred of them.
TheLibrarianUU it didnt fly very far because it had lost an engine. just because a twin engine plane can fly on 1 engine, they werent going to risk flying across the atlantic. safety comes first (as it always should) and both the crew and ATC handled the situation superbly
Why MAYDAY and not PANPAN? Was it because it was climbing? Didn't appear to be life threatening IMHO.
Paul Furey I think an engine problem is one of the more serious issues - but particularly here as they initially got fire warnings and a smoke observation from ATC. Fire is the worst possible situation onboard an aircraft, and probably didn’t want to dismiss that potential issue.
In addition failure cause was unknown at first time, maybe simple compressor stall/malfunction - not serious for airframe. But maybe turbine tear off - very dangerous, often wing puncture and fuel tanks, electrical wiring or hydro lines.
Smoke trail may sign oil system malfunction or hydro leak. No further information available, so going emergency was quite best option.
The A330 is a two-engine plane. The loss (shutdown) of one is most definately worth a MAYDAY call. PAN-PAN is just anouncing urgency of the following message...
PANPAN indicates, like you said, a non-life threatening event. A engine failure after takeoff is up there with the most dangerous emergencies, plus tower declared seeing smoke from the right engine. 200+ souls, 66 tons of fuel, and an engine fire below 3000 feet definitely deserves a mayday in my books.
@@adrianborinsky2989 well said mate.