Bacteria That Make Hydrogen Sulfide (H2S)
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- Опубліковано 10 кві 2024
- So, you've been told you have a Hydrogen Sulfide problem (either based on a Triosmart test or a stool test like Genova or the GI Map). Now what? Should you embark on a low-Sulfur diet? Or perhaps low FODMAP? Or a combo of both? And what about supplements? Are there any supplements that can help (beside taking antimicrobials, of course)? Stay tuned as we tease apart the tangled web of bacterial H2S production!
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Question: are there any genetic factors that make a person more likely to develop SIBO?
In my case, yes. I have hEDS which causes my intestines to sink and there is a loop in my small intestine that holds food for too long causing chronic SIBO.
@@NoSubtext how long for you is too long?
@@EsHw-ij7ou I don't know exactly how long, but I had small bowel imaging and my doctor told me food passes right through my stomach and sits in the loop.
I've tried many diets over the years, for health, not weight loss alone. I also studied many historical, anthropologic issues, to understand the vegan consumerist and carnivore consumerist ideology. Neither of which is sustainable or good for the environment. Homesteading with a cyclical diet is what humans thrive on without being too heavy a burden on the planet. Of course hunting and foraging thrown in, as it's extremely low footprint. Our ancestors often ate high wild herbs, medicinals, pottage in spring, what's grown throughout summer, fall, fruit and grain, winter, as stores of food depleted, dependent on cultured and cured dried foods, eventually late winter... especially in a harsh year... with dry summer, extremely cold winter, they ate mostly carnivore.
I did keto for a while, almost carnivore, felt great but still not fully healed of fibromyalgia, but I think our bodies "feel good" on it because it thinks we're starving. A whole foods plant based diet, our bodies think we're in a time of plenty and revs up metabolism. I couldn't loose more than 20 pounds on keto. Stress and hormones... couldn't ever get into full ketosis. I am not good at whole foods plant based or keto because of $$ it isn't affordable no matter what people say, I have abdominal adhesions so eating bbbe almost killed me. Excruciating pain. So carnivore is a no go, and I just can't justify eating factory meat. If you raise your own or can afford a local farm.. good on you but carnivore from a grocery store has privileged a-hole written all over it, just like vegans who by tons of avocados from Mexican drug lords, dates, coconut, quinoa from all around the globe and calling it sustainable. The only time I felt 100... Body Ecology Diet. It revolves around plants, but small amounts of sustainable animal products and doesn't spike blood sugar or feed candida as wfpb does. I started incorporating more saturated fat lately as a guinea pig and stinky gas plus pain has shot up... yes... mam. You're right. It's complicated!! On body ecology fat melted off and I ate myself skinny, without the hypoglycemia of wfpb. (175 down to 125 at 5'5") But I can't afford it where I moved. Food desert. I try to grow my own, but in a culture that doesn't value sustainability, 1 person can only grow so much...
Thank you, as always great content.
Such great info!
Thank you so much for producing these videos! You are filling the informational gap that others miss.
Interesting video. I'm still trying to figure all this out. I've had excessive H2S production pretty much my entire life. Oddly, it was at its worst on a low fat, low protein, high carb, vegetarian diet. Going in an animal-based keto direction getting most of my calories from saturated fat has had the most positive impact of everything I've tried so far.
I'm currently working on my motility and hoping I'll be able to tolerate probiotics if I can fix that. It sucks but I'm trying to stay positive!
This video has me thoroughly confused since carnivore diet, ginger/artichoke/ACV (Gut Motility by enzymedica), and sibo yogurt have been a God send.
@@cynthiahelmich3762 You too - my situation sounds similar. What's in your 'sibo' yoghurt? I've tried various store-bought and homemade ones without success.
Have also tried reintroducing some cruciferous vegetables but they just make my gas 100x worse.
SIBO yoghurt is just a homemade, dairy-grown Limosilactonacillus reuteri food promoted by William Davis. It’s promoted as a panacea, but I believe it’s a scam and just as good as any other lactic acid orobiotic. I could be wrong, but the reviews/testimonials seem too good to be true yet when my friend with IBS tried it, she got way worse. This is a big red flag of quackery to me.
Also, look Into MegaSporeBiotic types of probiotics as opposed to the regular one. They’ve been a Godsend to me
@@cynthiahelmich3762Everyone is different. The diet your explained ruins me. Higher carbs go better for me and the foods you listed make me feel pretty sick and I can feel my gut struggling to digest them.
Genuine question, as I’m trying to make sense of it all; seeing hunter-gatherer and pastoralist microbiomes, we can see they are tremendously diverse (alpha diversity), including asymptomatic parasites like certain species of hookworms, high Prevotella, and much more. They also seem to have very low prevalence of GI disease, yet their only source of fat is saturated fat, they eat tons of it. In particular, the Hadza and Maasai even eat raw intestine of ruminant animals from time to time. The Maasai barely eat any fiber and their diet consists mostlh out of blood, milk, certain herbs and sorghum porridge. This is quite incongruent with the theory that saturated fat/carnivore is terrible, and all these polyphenols and diverse plant compounds are so good for your microbiome. It seems more likely that a good, consistent, natural reservoir of microbes is more important than what you eat (getting into contact with soil, animal feces when tracking, eating raw intestine/rumen contents, etc). Sounds very extreme, but it simply is the way these wild humans live and THRIVE. The Maasai grow very old with countless documented life expectancies of over 100 years in a very rural area!!!
I’m very curious as to your thoughts on this. Should we simply touch and eat more wild animals, soil, roots, shoots, nuts, mosses, wild things?
I've had SIBO issues since 2018. Carnivore and a couple of things together are fixing it, compared to all this fiber, and plant based diets that I've tried for years. I spent thousands trying to fix it and years wondering if I could ever fix it. It's been 41 days and around day 30 I started adding this very concentrated probiotic yogurt with 16 strains in it and in the past 2 weeks the detox has been crazy. From biofilms to almost no more psoriasis. I think everyone has their own way to heal, and this is what worked for me, but the concept you brought up with the diet of those individuals has a correlation to my current diet. Hope that my experience helps with your inference in any way 🙏
@@michaelsimon1147 I personally don’t believe in carnivore diets being optimal, even with SIBO (which is actually a state of E. coli K12, Klebsiella aerogenes and Klebsiella pneumoniae overgrowth; all proteabacteria), but I can’t argue with results. That’s great for you man. Also, could you elaborate what you mean by “from biofilms to almost no more psoriasis”? And do you think it’s mostly the probiotic yoghurt, or the diet that made the most difference in your psoriasis symptoms? Did you check the timeline to infer causality? Thanks for sharing!
@Ruktiet I personally don't think over the long term it is sustainable either as far as nutrition goes from what I understand, but I could always be wrong. My trial and error came from a theory I had put together indirectly from this individual where when your SIBO is so bad, you have to cut fiber out for 90-180 days. After you get used to the diet, then start incorporating the probiotics very slowly, but there has to be no fiber. I went and dabbled carnivore in Nov 2023 and immediately got results, but it was challenging due to sugar withdrawals even from simple fruits and veggies. Once it hit March 1st I was able to be full carnivore. I noticed a majority of all the skin inflammation, and symptoms went from very severe where drinking or eating anything, even organic/grass fed/clean to I didn't have endless nights of burning and pain to I was starting to sleep and actually having bowl movements. It was slow but after a week I was able to sleep for 5 hrs when I haven't slept a night through since 2018 unless medicated in some fashion. I think both the carnivore showed moderate results and then when I incorporated the brand "The Coconut Cult" 16 strain yogurt & a strained fiberless fermented probiotic liquid from Salt water (Made from a mix of Celtic & Baja Gold Sea Salts)/ Ginger/Turmeric/Cabbage/Cucumber/+seasonings at the right time for my body it has created this super power thing where all the fungal and bacterial biofilms cannot inhabit my intestines. I also do ACV and water before every meal and first thing in the AM. So I am not a professional and don't know why this worked for me but I can go to the bathroom again daily, be intimate with my partner, and be happy to embrace the flavors of the world instead of scared to take a single bite. It's a wild situation because I was always plant based fermented my own kimchi/kraut/pickles/anything, and not with any vinegar so the bacteria could flourish, drank kombucha (of course all in moderation) and it would never get better. Hopefully this helps in some way🙏
You can’t compare all hunter-gatherer groups from throughout history to now because they all eat based off their environment. Their biology adapted to their environment. What one group ate or eats in one area of the world doesn’t work for another group from another part of the world. Saturated fats might work for one group but be awful and damaging for another group. Nutrition is never that black and white and the same thing never applies to all humans. We all have different ancestry.
@@MoonBeamLight completely wrong, All documented hunter-gatherers prioritize meat in their diet and have VERY little unsaturated fat intake. The only subsrantial source of insaturated fat is seafood (again; animal foods), and oily nuts or fruit in tropical areas, but those nuts and fruits are extremely rare. Animal food, honey and starchy rhizomes still make up the bulk of their nutrition, and the further North you go, the less plant foods you find in their diet, obviously. Our genetics did not evolve a lot since the advent of agriculture because it’s simply way too recent. Evolution takes tens of thousands of years to show significant biological changes in a natural setting.
Also, literally EVERY cell and EVERY mitochondrium in EVERY cell in your body has a lipid bilayer consisting out of prefominantly SATURATED fats. Why do you think meat consists out of saturated fat in the first place? Because animals’ bodies produce it for healthy functioning of their cell membranes and much more. Given that we are just as much animals with very similar cell structure, DNA and metabolism as the animals we often eat (cows, sheep, pigs, etc), how on earth could you claim that “saturated fat might be aweful and damaging to some group of people”. It just shows how you are completely ignorant of both biology, nutrition and nature. Please, go outside in any environment and try to forage wild foods and see if you can survive on them. You can’t. You will notice that you need to hunt to sustain yourself.
you should really be a comedian, the things you said regarding the carnivore diet and 'not enough carbs' are hilarious.
Dr. DiNezza - You are loved! Thank you for this. Can you please entertain making a video about how to make/increase Intestinal Alkaline Phosphatase? Like many I’m sure, my intestinal lining is compromised & I’m not making any of it : ( (Tried cabbage soup, turmeric, a whole gamet of nutritional recipes but to no avail).
Thank You!
I was literally ripping my hair out trying to find Bacteria's that cause H2S and wow, I got your newsletter with EXACTLY what I was looking for. However, like many.... I am more confused now. I have been convinced on biofilms, ect. to dissolve the mucus, and then go carnivore to starve sugar eating Kleb, ect.
Video questions:
1) The bile quote was WILD - great insights here! SIBO reddit has had positive cases of removing gall bladder and that seemed to be a fix - what are your thoughts of ripping out organs?
2) I personally have Fat mal adsorption for YEARS.... gross fatty floating stools, and i already cut low saturated fats is out for me? I would challenge that h2s fat mal is a COMMON symptom. What are your thoughts of EPI and h2s. (added note: the carnivore diet is something very POPULAR on sibo reddit so I wonder what people think about this cutting fats out?)
Huge fan of yours and I am long time sufferer here. Short Background story (maybe its helpful for others) over 4 years of SIBO 5 different positive tests and as of 2023 diagnosed with unknown cause EPI, but pancreas was determined totally fine... Methane, Hydrogen and H2S were all high on my latest breath tests. Crazy right? Doctors went to stool samples and I have ecoli spp. detected in my stool before and after 2 separate rounds of Xifixan - can these be evident that these are antibiotic resistant? Maybe I should consider metronidazole?
Do you have any information on H2 S combined with candida and sifo? That’s all makes sense because eggs make me 1 billion times worse and so does salmon along with low-carb. I can eat beef as long as it’s grass fed and finished and I do fine with brassicas. I did not do fine whenever I was adding coconut oil to them, functional doctor was getting me all messed up by doing high fats, and lots of coconut oil he didn’t know what H2 was so I have been battling this stupid same thing for a long time having to figure it out myself
What is your opinion about taking L. Rhamnosus against Bilophila wadsworthia?
Love to hear it it. Feels like I have bobling lava in my diaphragm pancrea ribbs liver area 🥴🥴 could this be it?
I had the same rolling bubbles during sibo. I believe it's just gas.
Very interesting. I’ve been struggling with gut issues for more than a year. After going carnivore/high fat, I’m finally starting to feel better. The only things I’ve added in almost 6mths is, prokinetics and “sibo” yogurt. Every time I try to reintroduce plant or fiber type food, I experience gas, bloating and abnormal stools. After spending lots of money on GI testing and told nothing is wrong, I’m convinced GI doctors don’t subscribe to sibo and only push fiber and/or laxatives.
Your microbiome and enzyme expression needs to adapt to the fiber. Introduce it slowly and over a long period of time. Trust me, this works. Good ones are xylo-oligosaccharides, human milk oligosaccharides, inulin (this can be very symptom-inducing in the beginning), galacto-oligosaccharides. There are more, but those are known to really improve butyrate production, acidify the colon, and selectively feed “good guys” (Bifidobacterium and Lactobacillus species, but mostly bifido).
Question; did you notice any actual effects with the SIBO yoghurt without it being placebo? It seems like an oversold scam.
Please talk more about IBS and Diarrhea
Im more confused now 🥴🥴 🙈🙈😅😪
Just eat a diverse, balalnced diet. If you can’t tolerate that, GRADUALLY introduce the foods that you feel like you should, but can’t yet eat. Small amounts. Don’t fear the food. And add a prokinetic if you notice motility problems
You are not alone.
Videos need a tldr. And then the explanation.
One question, does anyone know if it is ok to use Gluthatione when you have H2S issues. Is it antibacterial or just feeding the bugs? I need it as I am dealing with mold
I'm in the same exact boat- super common with mold illness/cirs. Keep taking the glutathione. So important to keep your glutathione levels up dealing with this. Good luck!
@@bananamustache3071 thank you for your answer. Are you sure? I know I can’t tolerate Cystein at all, and Glutathion also isn’t as well absorbed. I literally can’t tolerate any sulfur as these bugs are so aggressive I don’t understand.
@@andreadfabre4361 Are you taking liposomal glutathione or just cheap non-liposomal? Liposomal will get absorbed as glutathione, but yes if you are taking non-liposomal it is broken apart in digestion into seperate peptides (including cysteine) and is no longer glutathine, it is separate peptides. If you absoloutley want to avoid taking oral glutathione you can get transdermal glutathione that is absorbed through the skin from Auro wellness. It works, but it is pricy.
@@andreadfabre4361 Are you taking liposomal or cheap non-liposomal glutathione? Liposomal stays and is absorbed as glutathione. Shouldn't be an issue. Non-liposomal is not absorbed as glutathione- it is broken apart into its seperate peptides (including cysteine) during digestion. It is not ideal, both to get glutathione and potentially a problem if you have issues with the cysteine. If you really want to absoloutley avoid oral glutathione you can het transdermal glutathione that absorbs through your skin from auro wellness. It works, but is pricey.
But how do These bacteria get Into Our bodies???
Often food poisoning
Mam I had anterior vagotomy
Now I live with one vagus nerve posterior vagus nerve
Mam I die soon 😭😩😫😫😫
what was the reason you had a vagotomy, if you don't mind me asking?
I had anterior fundoplication for acid reflux
2023 November..31
But my surgeon doctor mistakely cut my anterior vagus nerve
😭😭😭😭😭😭
Now I have only one posterior vagus nerve
@@arupdebbarma4420 oh, I'm sorry to hear that. it is certainly understandable that you have consequences, but I hope they are not life-threatening?
I got many symptoms
Cronic headache with nausea
oh, that's unfortunate, I hope there is a way to regenerate the vagus nerve or repair it in some other way. what chances do the doctors give that vegas nerve will manage, by itself, to renerve the area? is it even possible?
I have an extensive background in nutrition and am always interested in your topic but....your presentations are not easy to follow and are all over the place. I come away with very little usable info....is that your intention.?
Thank you for your content. Could you talk about causes, treatments for parasites 🦠. Also calprotectin would be a good topic to discuss.
Parasites might actually be beneficial. It is erroneously named in the functional medicine world, denoting any cause of GI problems. Actual parasites known to cause illness are Giardia lamblia, a whole bunch of helminthic parasites, malaria, entamoeba histolytica, etc. Have your blood and stool checked for these if you really suspect it, otherwise it is unlikely that you have it.