As someone who is preparing to buy the EOS R6 for myself as a Christmas present, I really learned that which I needed to know to feel good about pulling the trigger. Thanks so much!
Thanks Clifton, i am a landscape streetscape photographer and I have recently upgraded to the R5 and watched many tutorials and instructions on YT and your show was by far the most insightful👌 ripper show thanks again👍
He recommends the R6 for wildlife! The ability to get closer by cropping means most wildlife shooters like me are choosing the R5. He thinks ISO performance is the most critical thing but the R5 's Iso performance is surprisingly very close to the lower megapixel camera. Reach from the ability to crop is the most important factor for wildlife. So if you have the money and its wildlife your shooting, get the R5.
I tend to agree. I have considered which one to get, and I’d much prefer to pay less and get the R6, but for wildlife/bird photography you do crop, sometimes significantly, which means the R5 is probably the best option
I suggest the R6 for wildlife because, admittedly, I don’t like spending time on the computer cropping. I’d rather use the right lens and get it right in camera, but I do take your point. There’s also the issue that the R6 is a little better in low light, so beginning and end of the day when shooting wildlife, the R6 will give slightly cleaner images.
This is one of the best videos explaining the real world use cases for each camera. Well done. As someone who shoots action and sports a good bit in a variety of weather conditions, I would love to see the r6 with the same level of weather sealing as the r5, as well as the burlier build quality. Everything else about the r6 is perfect for what I like to shoot. Thanks for a great video.
As a "hybrid user" this has been the most useful review for me (after watching many), and has helped to seal the deal for me - especially regarding the 20mp issue
Great interview - thanks. I have a 5D3 and 7D2 the latter of which I use daily to take insect/spider macro stills handheld in the field for scientific publications (field guides etc) and birds (fun). The 7's getting old, and isn't going to be replaced. For macro the 7 cropped sensor works really well to see the subject - better than full frame. I'll have to replace the 7, so wonder have you done macro tests with both R6 and R5 Dave? I use a Canon ring flash. I'm retired and all my work is voluntary, so I can't afford to try before I buy and no one seems to test for macro. Please help. Cheers!
you can set the R5 to a crop so it looks the same but less pixels or crop after its the same without having to worry about he subject been in the middle the good bit for macro for me at least is the focus bracketing ( stacking ) but only in electronic shutter so quiet and fast if your lens has auto focus that is . eg the EF 100 F2.8 L IS Macro you could take say 20 shots in 1 second spanning the complete spider. both the R5 and R6 has this , but I feel you get a better chance of a good crop and keeping the sharp picture with the R5 . that what I've pre ordered and waiting for
I just bought the R6 and got 800 € off because of Black Friday and the release of the R6 Mark II. I love it ! Only drawback is the accu life compared to the 5DIII's I own, but I can still use my old LP-E6 batteries in the R6.
Thank you! Both cameras are proving very popular so we're currently awaiting a firm date from Canon. We will update our website as soon as they become available.
Thanks for this, I am loving the EOS R and using my legacy glass but this might well tempt me to start investing in the R lenses too and then go for the one more favourable for landscapes, I lost track of which was which!
I am still torn between the two. I have always gone for something less than the best version and then wished i had spent that bit more money and got the next step up. I only shoot pictures not video so i don't care about that part at all. I like sport and wildlife and also action and macro so according to the specs i suit an R6, but then i do like landscape and macro with 45mp would be phenomenal detail, so this sends me towards the R5. i currently use a 7D mk1 so either is a vast improvement and a better camera, but do i buy the R6 ands save the money for a lens or something, or do i go for the R5 and know i have the best there is (currently) - such a dilemma to have.
Go ahead and the get R5. You can always use cRAW if you don’t need the full 45mps for a particular shoot and for wildlife you can enable crop mode and only get 17mps; you have options. Also your EF lenses will be phenomenal with the R5. You can slowly transition to the RF lenses. It’s better to have and not need, than to need and not have.
Disappointing that Canon are not bundling the mount adapter with these cameras as for the previous Rs. OK you can claim an adapter up end of October but how long will that take to arrive. For this amount of money I would expect to be able to use the camera with my existing EF glass straight out of the box
Once you have them, the flexibility of pixels beats everything. 5DS/R was a wonder to shoot. R5 is the 5DS/R on steroids. 5RS will be insane. As a compromise I bought a R6 while I wait for the 5RS.
The point that came across to me is you are not settling for second best with the R6. It is offering so much that if you can get past "mine is bigger than yours" you should be very happy with the R6. Thanks
I find it interesting how everyone excuses the over heating R5 with its big sensor, 8k video and CFExpress and completely ignores that the R6's small sensor, no CFExpress, no 8k and it overheats just as fast. This guy sounds like a Canon salesman but I did enjoy most of his input. Thx for having him on. Why didn't you ask him about the R6 over heating?
Thanks for your feedback Norman. In all honesty, the R6 overheating is not something we've heard of recently, I will forward this onto Dave though and reply to this thread with his response. Thanks again for feeding back.
It's only overheats in 4K,. But if you shoot 1080p it won't overheats,. 4K is overrated,. Mostly all clients views are portfolio in Facebook, Instagram, and most of them used cell phone,.
Norman Mailerr 'Everyone excuses the over heating R5'? Have you been watching UA-cam? It's nothing but people moaning about it, and by the way the R5 and R6 both have the same size sensor it's the amount of megapixels within that sensor that's different. Not having a CFEexpress card on the R6 makes perfect sense as it doesn't have 8k and not having 8k makes it different from the more expensive R5. Also EVERYONE didn't ignore that the R6 can overheat too, again you either didn't do your research or have chosen to ignore the fact. Seems you're complaining for the sake of it.
I have been thinking that turning on IS on the lens or in-body IS and running with the camera in self mode, with a random lens, may not be the best way to judge IS. I want to understand more about the different types of IS and which mode is best for what types of lenses.
In short, in-camera IS (aka IBIS) works better with wide-angle lenses. Lens IS works better with telephoto lenses. That’s not to say each isn’t useful with the other, just less effective. So having the combination gives the best of both options. It is also possible to turn off the in-camera IS - either in the menu or simply by turning off the lens IS switch. As for performance - all IS is related to you. Some people will be able to handhold slower than others and IS will not even that up for everyone.
In hindsight, perhaps not an upgrade in all aspects. Certainly, some areas where the newer features are handy over the 5D4 but when it comes to outright performance, the 5D4 still does hold some power over the R6.
We've got another video in the pipeline where we look at the R6 and the new F11 600mm and 800mm lenses. Hopefully that will help show you how they can perform well as a wildlife kit.
Hey mate, I don’t have the R6 but I do have experience working with raw files on a Mac. You might consider investing in a card reader that you can plug into your Mac that way you can take the file directly from your memory card onto your Mac without losing quality. Cheers 🍻
Getting fed up watching reviews about the R5 R6. Why can't Canon get them delivered here to the UK. Been waiting since July now. I wont to see it for myself, and play with it.
I'm still flip-flopping on the 5 or 6 because I do lots of nature and landscape photography on Cape Cod. Is the 6 good enough if I'm printing up to 13 by 19?
I'm on the Cape, too, and largely shoot land/seascapes. I've printed to 24x36 with my 22MP 5D3 - no problem, exporting from LR or with upsampling by a great lab. I bought the R6 since I like the smaller file size, meaning quicker processing and less storage. I also prefer the dial. I'm not a bird photog where 45MP would be great for cropping. Not to say I wouldn't occasionally like to have 45MP. As Dave says, I can see where the detail could be addictive! May rethink this in 1-2 years.
You'll still be able to print with excellent quality from the R6. On that note, we've got another video coming in the NY regarding the R6 and it's usability as a wildlife camera. We're teaming it up with the 600mm and 800mm F11 lenses too! This should provide a bit more of an insight into how the R6 still produces high quality detail, for digital and print purposes.
The R5 is not a stills camera! Canon made it a HYBRID camera when they decided to market the video features. So its a Hybrid camera that has unsusable video side
Well, it was informative. Check. Aren’t you glad we have these unpaid informational broadcasts instead of those tens of thousands of dollars, produced all the times there are reviews getting foldedinto the marketing budget for the cameras. If it were, the video would not be the only thing at 8K!
@@AndyABOM no, not really... It's the same infomercial salesmanship, but dizens of people are out of a job for each company that is no longer in business... Instead, people are either doing the work at their own expense while hoping they will get a payout of a few dozen channels and the manufacturers are getting great praise for nearly peanuts.
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R6 Plus RF 24-105 f4 ordered from yourselves this week! Waiting for stock! Always use Clifton Cameras.
Great video , thank you for making it. He is a true professional not a youtuber reviewing cameras
Definitely has all the knowledge that's for sure!
As someone who is preparing to buy the EOS R6 for myself as a Christmas present, I really learned that which I needed to know to feel good about pulling the trigger. Thanks so much!
Thanks Clifton, i am a landscape streetscape photographer and I have recently upgraded to the R5 and watched many tutorials and instructions on YT and your show was by far the most insightful👌 ripper show thanks again👍
He recommends the R6 for wildlife! The ability to get closer by cropping means most wildlife shooters like me are choosing the R5. He thinks ISO performance is the most critical thing but the R5 's Iso performance is surprisingly very close to the lower megapixel camera. Reach from the ability to crop is the most important factor for wildlife. So if you have the money and its wildlife your shooting, get the R5.
I tend to agree. I have considered which one to get, and I’d much prefer to pay less and get the R6, but for wildlife/bird photography you do crop, sometimes significantly, which means the R5 is probably the best option
@@cornishblue58 cropping in on the R5 is a cheaper option than buying an expensive L lens
@@RumourHasitYT very true. I feel better already 😂
I suggest the R6 for wildlife because, admittedly, I don’t like spending time on the computer cropping. I’d rather use the right lens and get it right in camera, but I do take your point.
There’s also the issue that the R6 is a little better in low light, so beginning and end of the day when shooting wildlife, the R6 will give slightly cleaner images.
@@photopositive see a few tests which suggest the R5 is just as good in low light.
This is one of the best videos explaining the real world use cases for each camera. Well done. As someone who shoots action and sports a good bit in a variety of weather conditions, I would love to see the r6 with the same level of weather sealing as the r5, as well as the burlier build quality. Everything else about the r6 is perfect for what I like to shoot. Thanks for a great video.
As a "hybrid user" this has been the most useful review for me (after watching many), and has helped to seal the deal for me - especially regarding the 20mp issue
Thank you for this video. It has clarified a lot of key questions for me.
At last a true real world review of Canon. Always been saying it's a stills camera
Thanks Chaz!
Great interview - thanks. I have a 5D3 and 7D2 the latter of which I use daily to take insect/spider macro stills handheld in the field for scientific publications (field guides etc) and birds (fun). The 7's getting old, and isn't going to be replaced. For macro the 7 cropped sensor works really well to see the subject - better than full frame. I'll have to replace the 7, so wonder have you done macro tests with both R6 and R5 Dave? I use a Canon ring flash. I'm retired and all my work is voluntary, so I can't afford to try before I buy and no one seems to test for macro. Please help. Cheers!
you can set the R5 to a crop so it looks the same but less pixels or crop after its the same without having to worry about he subject been in the middle the good bit for macro for me at least is the focus bracketing ( stacking ) but only in electronic shutter so quiet and fast if your lens has auto focus that is . eg the EF 100 F2.8 L IS Macro you could take say 20 shots in 1 second spanning the complete spider. both the R5 and R6 has this , but I feel you get a better chance of a good crop and keeping the sharp picture with the R5 . that what I've pre ordered and waiting for
@@Tainted-Soul Thanks for the info. It sounds fantastic. I look forward to hearing how you go with macro with it. Cheers
Finally a great usage review... so informative. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Totally brilliant video. Thanks for this.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video, thanks for the honest views about each camera's capabilities.
Glad it was helpful!
I just bought the R6 and got 800 € off because of Black Friday and the release of the R6 Mark II. I love it ! Only drawback is the accu life compared to the 5DIII's I own, but I can still use my old LP-E6 batteries in the R6.
Very enjoyable video and an interesting comparison. Any news on when you might be able to get your hands on either of them in the UK?
Thank you! Both cameras are proving very popular so we're currently awaiting a firm date from Canon. We will update our website as soon as they become available.
such a good review and summary
Thank you!
Very interesting to listen from a seasoned professional.
Glad you think so! Thanks for listening.
@@clifton-camerasyour welcome
Finally, someone with a brain.
Thanks for this, I am loving the EOS R and using my legacy glass but this might well tempt me to start investing in the R lenses too and then go for the one more favourable for landscapes, I lost track of which was which!
Understandable, there is a lot of information there! Glad you found the video useful.
I am still torn between the two. I have always gone for something less than the best version and then wished i had spent that bit more money and got the next step up. I only shoot pictures not video so i don't care about that part at all. I like sport and wildlife and also action and macro so according to the specs i suit an R6, but then i do like landscape and macro with 45mp would be phenomenal detail, so this sends me towards the R5. i currently use a 7D mk1 so either is a vast improvement and a better camera, but do i buy the R6 ands save the money for a lens or something, or do i go for the R5 and know i have the best there is (currently) - such a dilemma to have.
R5.. and just begin your RF glass library. I step out there. I'll be doing the same.
Go ahead and the get R5. You can always use cRAW if you don’t need the full 45mps for a particular shoot and for wildlife you can enable crop mode and only get 17mps; you have options. Also your EF lenses will be phenomenal with the R5. You can slowly transition to the RF lenses. It’s better to have and not need, than to need and not have.
Excellent review Mr Newton. Of course good jod at hosting.
Disappointing aspect for me with the R5 is not being able to adjust RAW resolution. It’s 45mp or nothing!
Is there a way to set a custom button to change from 1st curtain and electronic shutter ?
Thanks for your video and perspective.
Glad it was helpful!
Disappointing that Canon are not bundling the mount adapter with these cameras as for the previous Rs. OK you can claim an adapter up end of October but how long will that take to arrive. For this amount of money I would expect to be able to use the camera with my existing EF glass straight out of the box
Once you have them, the flexibility of pixels beats everything. 5DS/R was a wonder to shoot. R5 is the 5DS/R on steroids. 5RS will be insane. As a compromise I bought a R6 while I wait for the 5RS.
Very helpful much appreciated
The point that came across to me is you are not settling for second best with the R6. It is offering so much that if you can get past "mine is bigger than yours" you should be very happy with the R6. Thanks
You're absolutely right! It's more of a question of which is more suited to your style of photography.
I find it interesting how everyone excuses the over heating R5 with its big sensor, 8k video and CFExpress and completely ignores that the R6's small sensor, no CFExpress, no 8k and it overheats just as fast. This guy sounds like a Canon salesman but I did enjoy most of his input. Thx for having him on. Why didn't you ask him about the R6 over heating?
Thanks for your feedback Norman. In all honesty, the R6 overheating is not something we've heard of recently, I will forward this onto Dave though and reply to this thread with his response. Thanks again for feeding back.
It's only overheats in 4K,. But if you shoot 1080p it won't overheats,.
4K is overrated,. Mostly all clients views are portfolio in Facebook, Instagram, and most of them used cell phone,.
Who needs CFexpress? I actually prefer two Sd slots.
Norman Mailerr 'Everyone excuses the over heating R5'? Have you been watching UA-cam? It's nothing but people moaning about it, and by the way the R5 and R6 both have the same size sensor it's the amount of megapixels within that sensor that's different.
Not having a CFEexpress card on the R6 makes perfect sense as it doesn't have 8k and not having 8k makes it different from the more expensive R5. Also EVERYONE didn't ignore that the R6 can overheat too, again you either didn't do your research or have chosen to ignore the fact. Seems you're complaining for the sake of it.
I have been thinking that turning on IS on the lens or in-body IS and running with the camera in self mode, with a random lens, may not be the best way to judge IS. I want to understand more about the different types of IS and which mode is best for what types of lenses.
In short, in-camera IS (aka IBIS) works better with wide-angle lenses. Lens IS works better with telephoto lenses. That’s not to say each isn’t useful with the other, just less effective. So having the combination gives the best of both options. It is also possible to turn off the in-camera IS - either in the menu or simply by turning off the lens IS switch.
As for performance - all IS is related to you. Some people will be able to handhold slower than others and IS will not even that up for everyone.
Is the R6 really an upgrade from the 5d4? Would a combo of 5d4 plus the R6 cover all of the bases?
In hindsight, perhaps not an upgrade in all aspects. Certainly, some areas where the newer features are handy over the 5D4 but when it comes to outright performance, the 5D4 still does hold some power over the R6.
I wish i could some r6 bird photography, cropping in to see some feather detail. The crops i see are not close enough to see that detail.
I believe Ken Rockwell’s channel did exactly this. I may be mistaken as it may have been the R5. It was an incredibly sharp crop though.
We've got another video in the pipeline where we look at the R6 and the new F11 600mm and 800mm lenses. Hopefully that will help show you how they can perform well as a wildlife kit.
Can you tell me how to upload raw file from the R6 to my Mac and still keep them high quality?
Hey mate, I don’t have the R6 but I do have experience working with raw files on a Mac. You might consider investing in a card reader that you can plug into your Mac that way you can take the file directly from your memory card onto your Mac without losing quality. Cheers 🍻
Plug in the usbC lead and use Canon Utility 3 to import photos
right, stills camera having video features
Getting fed up watching reviews about the R5 R6. Why can't Canon get them delivered here to the UK. Been waiting since July now. I wont to see it for myself, and play with it.
Yup, my thoughts too.
I'm still flip-flopping on the 5 or 6 because I do lots of nature and landscape photography on Cape Cod. Is the 6 good enough if I'm printing up to 13 by 19?
It certainly is. I’ve made 3m wide prints from 8megapixels, so you’ll have more than enough with an R6.
I'm on the Cape, too, and largely shoot land/seascapes. I've printed to 24x36 with my 22MP 5D3 - no problem, exporting from LR or with upsampling by a great lab. I bought the R6 since I like the smaller file size, meaning quicker processing and less storage. I also prefer the dial. I'm not a bird photog where 45MP would be great for cropping. Not to say I wouldn't occasionally like to have 45MP. As Dave says, I can see where the detail could be addictive! May rethink this in 1-2 years.
You'll still be able to print with excellent quality from the R6. On that note, we've got another video coming in the NY regarding the R6 and it's usability as a wildlife camera. We're teaming it up with the 600mm and 800mm F11 lenses too! This should provide a bit more of an insight into how the R6 still produces high quality detail, for digital and print purposes.
This looks interesting!
Thanks Mahoo! We really hope you enjoy it!
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The R5 is not a stills camera! Canon made it a HYBRID camera when they decided to market the video features. So its a Hybrid camera that has unsusable video side
There speaks someone who only listens to internet chatter and has no experience with the camera
lol the guy looks like henry cavill?
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Unpaid infomercial. Production teams used to get paid tens of thousands to produce these. Now....
Well, it was informative. Check. Aren’t you glad we have these unpaid informational broadcasts instead of those tens of thousands of dollars, produced all the times there are reviews getting foldedinto the marketing budget for the cameras. If it were, the video would not be the only thing at 8K!
@@AndyABOM no, not really... It's the same infomercial salesmanship, but dizens of people are out of a job for each company that is no longer in business... Instead, people are either doing the work at their own expense while hoping they will get a payout of a few dozen channels and the manufacturers are getting great praise for nearly peanuts.
God loves you woman. Seek Him. :)
This is too long. Very boring . Get to the point. I couldnt watch it.
Why aren't you 2 metres apart?