narwal was Interfering with child Constellation as we can see in narwal boss fight thats why traveler got Vision from child vision and thats why He couldn't use his vision
@@Ashleycolorful more like explaining human in difference continent in the world. Asian people just cant understand why sometime western people do their thing and vice versa
Childe's relation to the Narwhale is that he encountered it during his time in the Abyss and Skirk never told him what it really was. It left a huge imprint on him and is the reason he has a vision as a copy of it manifests in his burst. He's been seeking that whale to kill it but he's just not strong enough (yet) This was the 'personal business' he was on in Fontaine.
As a honkai player, your theory might not be so far fetch Skirk and her power compared to the rest of teyvat really make her seems like she come straight from honkai impact 3
@@doctordifficult2709 Nah, google Durandal Palatinus Equinox, that's who she actually is, they have the same VA as well. Durandal is one of the major characters of HI3rd, and Skirk's design is basically a "abyss" version of her Palatinus Equinox suit.
Idk much about Honkai, but all this lore about Skirk gives me alotta vibes that she's not from the Genshin bubble universe Also she just looks a lot like a character from Honkai compared to Genshin
Yea google Durandal Palatinus Equinox, that's who she actually is, they have the same VA as well. Durandal is one of the major characters of HI3rd, and Skirk's design is basically a "abyss" version of her Palatinus Equinox suit.
If I recall correctly 3 years passed for childe when he came back to teyvat it was only a few days, his family was shocked that he came back older and stronger
Surtalogi, Skirk and Childe might have connection with Alice and her magic cabal in some form or another, I'm not surprised if Klee and Kaeya will have interesting interactions with Skirk in the future regarding personal and worldbuilding lore that would bring great implications of Khaenri'ah as a whole, knowing how Surtalogi, Childe, Alice and Kaeya more than often have way more knowledge than they supposed to be If Genshin will do awakened characters' release akin to both Honkai Impact and Honkai Star Rail does, Kaeya would be very likely to be the first among 4* while Klee would be also logical to be the first among 5* to have their hypothetical awakened characters' releases during 7th region if not after 7 Nations being opened (as it would go beyond the 7 Nations of Teyvat into uncharted dreams which also something Khaenri'ah envisioned for the future of humanity in Teyvat), both of them are released as earliest characters afterall so there could be thematic to these, as Honkai Impact also have a lot of awakened characters from loli body to adult-sized body characters to show their growth in-game lore and character (well, most of the time at least, Crimson Vow is still quite childish compared to most other characters in Honkai Impact despite having powers rivalling among the strongest in Honkai Impact's power-scaled characters alone)
the way she effortlessly folded that whale into a black hole was the highlight of this story ngl. also i need them to show a cutscene of teyvat from space bc that would be interesting
notice how childe's 3rd phase, the foul legacy, has similar moves & fx with that visitor from far, far away (whale phase 2). that's why childe is the weakiest harbingers. his vision & delusion skills are kind of mid, then his 3rd phase is not reliable enough for longer battles.
"THE FOUL" legacy... I think it's safe to assume that Childe's transformation in an interior version of Surt's battle form. I think he can use multiple weapons at once
Childe is noted to be one of the strongest harbingers in a physical fight, I don't think his vision/delusion skills are lacking, I just think the fatui values economic/political/commercial strength over physical strength, shown by Pantalone being ranked higher than him.
@@Twag7childe also had no previous standing. These other characters already had established places and powers. Ajax was just some kid that joined. Also the rankings may not be based on power in the first place. Probably is though.
@@Waffle-dogIts not based on only power. Its based on their overall contributiom to the tsaritsa's cause. Take note that the 11 harbingers are identified as the most powerful among the fatui and added the terms political influence, fame, wealth, etc. So its kinda obvious that harbinger ranking is based on more than just power in terms of battle because if its just based on power/ hard hitters, Childe should be at top 7 or 8 (Wanderer timeline). Plus if they changed the rankings, it would just create another discourse and drama and we all know that the harbingers dont get along with one another. Heck, they havent even updated who will the new 6th and 8th harbinger since wanderer changed the original timeline and signora died.
Fun thing about Ragnarok is that it's not "the end", it is "a ending". The majority of gods, giants, humans etc die, but, afterwards the world and the survivors rise again, cleansed and renewed. One interesting note, Odin, while concealing his true powers, wandered all around in order to learn the secret truths of the world. In English, he is called "The Wanderer.".
I'm Polish and the only reason these new characters are so mysterious and don't want to spill any secret is because there's not a single bottle of vodka when any important conversation happens. I hope it changes when Снежная/Snezhnaya is released.
For your hope of her playability, my expectation is that if she's playable, she'll make her playable debut in the Khaenri'ah chapter scheduled to come after Snezhneya. So, yeah, enjoy waiting until 2026.
Yeah, pretty sure Dainsleif will be released before her, likely in the first few versions. Gotta wait for the Archon Quest series to come to a close after meeting the Tsaritsa though.
Rheindottr refers to the daughters of the river rhein, basically water nymphs whose river possessed gold and great fortune. Alberich the king of the dwarves (and Khanreiah) steals the rhein daughters' gold to fashion a magic ring. Skirk may refer to Circe--pronounced 'surs'--a goddess of sorcery from Greek mythos. She is known for turning her enemies to animals, most notably Scylla, who in the Genshin world, is the dragon prince who fights Remus. Also, Skirk's master Surtalogi may refer both to Surtr, the King of the flame giants and Loki, the norse god of chaos and mischief. Either way he's definitely an antagonist, which in the world of Teyvat probably means he's one of the biggest heroes.
Don't forget that the Foul in CN is called "Knight of Extreme Evil" and Childe's transformation is called "Demon Lord Armor". I think Genshin is going for typical Asian subversion of "evil" heavens(Celestia) vs "good" Demon Lord/Maou(Surtalogi being named after the weapon of the *big bad* of North mythology)
It's been said the only way to actually fight against Celestia is with "power from beyond this world" which is Abyssal power as well as whatever powers the Descenders have when they arrive.
I'm guessing The Abyss is going to turn out to be the typical "by all means possible" villain. Basically, good intentions, but going about it the wrong way. Bit of a prediction: After beating the Abyss we choose to carry on their mission and storm Celestia, where after a climactic battle we rip open the sky Shadowlands style and challenge The Heavenly Principles directly. Hard to say where Snezhnaya fits into all of this, if they are against The Abyss or The Heavenly Principles. Though maybe I'm forgetting some interaction between them and The Abyss at some point.
I personally think the abyss is split into factions. From what we see of it they appear more chaotic or organized at many points in the story. This is even true when Heralds are present.
Fun fact: Surtalogi Skirk's master, he is very similar to Dainsleif, they are both named after swords Surtalogi is the sword of the fire giant Surtr in Norse mythology . With this the fire giant set the world on fire at Ragnarök. Dainsleif belonged to king Högni who was a legendary king in Viking mythology. The Dainsleif sword was made by the dwarf Dain who was among the most famous and talented craftsmen in the cosmos. The word "Dainsleif" meant "Dain's legacy". (similar to how Childe transformation is called Foul legacy) Also according to both Furina and Focalor the prophecy/punishment was send by Celestia . So the rising primordial sea level wasn't the whale doing but Celestia, Surtalogi just send the whale there to eat primordial sea water (Skirk confirm this). He most likely did this to stall Celestia punishment on Fontaine . According to Skirk dialogue she let Childe petsitting the whale. So basically: -Childe escape prison -go into primordial sea -meet whale -swim up to the surface -meet Skirk -Skirk ask Childe to watch over the whale while she go do something -Skirk leave -Childe fight whale -whale swim up to opera house and start attacking peoples ... honestly sounds like something he would do Theory: 1 . Gold might be infertile (or can't get pregnant) you see it is a common myth or belief that witches cannot get pregnant, yes Alice is Klee's mom but what if the same cannot be said for everyone else like say Gold (where am I going with this? You'll see in a moment) . So with this in mind, Gold one of the royal of Khaenriah, with a desire for a child to called her own, use Khemia and started practicing her craft in creating life. This would explain why one of her first creation, the rift hound lack intelligence unlike her later creations like Durin,Elynas,etc... but until this point she have only created monsters and dragons. What she want is a human son so she created her first human Surtalogi, Surtalogi might have impurity, but with her emotional attachment to her first son, she didn't dispose of him ( unlike what she did with Albedo's half digested brother, favoritism). Much like Durin, Surtalogi also wanted to see the world outside of Khaenriah, Gold agree to let him leave the same way she did with Durin . While exploring Teyvat he might have caught the attention of the Archons or Celestia itself, they later found out what Surtalogi is and What Gold have done. So they carry out punishment on Khaenriah ( similar to Fontaine) . Debunking Why I called Gold a royal? -According to Dainsleif Albedo title back in Khaenriah was Kreideprinz translate to English means chalk prince and Gold is Albedo's mom so...yeah. Why did I say that Surtalogi have impurity? -Surtalogi title is The Foul. Dirty, filthy, foul, nasty, squalid mean conspicuously unclean or impure. Why did I say Gold have emotional attachment to Surtalogi? -because unlike Albedo's brother (susbedo) he is still walking around, either that or he just run away from Gold Why did I say he was a creation of Gold and is the cause of Khaenriah demise? - according to Dainsleif, Khaenriah was destroyed because of the use of Khemia/ alchemy/ the art of creating life. With the Fontaine Archon quests and Surtalogi name I think most people can put 2 and 2 together. Surtalogi was the sword and not the wielder or craftsman. He was the sword that started the flame, burning Khaenriah like what we saw in the we will be reunited trailer. Theory 2: Skirk might not be a decender (emphasis on might), Skirk said she no longer return to the surface/ Teyvat especially after finding out the truth about the gnosis. She also said that she have been training under Surtalogi ever since she was small (most likely sometime 500 years ago after Khaenriah got destroyed) so...yeah. Theory 3 Surtalogi might be in possession of a gnosis. Skirk said she have seen a gnosis before . Given that for the past 500 years we know where all the gnosis are Anemo in Venti body same for Zhongli Makoto die,Ei become the Archon and give the gnosis to Yae Miko sometime 500 years ago The one who shall not be named die, give birth to Nahida, also give Nahida the gnosis and Nahida was locked away for 500 years And the hydro Archon put the gnosis inside the Oratrice to stored power for the last 500 years All we know now is that the Pyro gnosis is still somewhere in Natlan that's why The Captain is there (still not much lore there) So by process of elimination the only possible way that Skirk could have seen a gnosis is with the Cryo gnosis ( Or maybe Surtalogi is in possession of an entirely different gnosis with new element who knows)
Forgot one more Theory 4 Surtalogi will most likely be revealed as a Fatui harbinger Zanni (Aka Giovanni) from italian commedia dell'arte If you are curious why I think that look up " Fatui constellations" and look at the mask on top Then search up " Star Rail Giovanni " Put those two masks side by side and you'll see what I mean Considering the fact that Skirk is incredibly similar to Jingliu and both Jingliu and Giovanni was introduced in the same version...yeah there's definitely something going on there
Just a fun discussion, and if you don't have time, no worries! I'm still not convinced with your timeline of events. You mentioned that Childe met Skirk when he first arrived at the Primordial Sea, and then she left to do something. While it's a possible interpretation, she never explicitly said that, right? So, what quotes from her lead you to believe this is the case? She mentioned, 'It was just supposed to be a short private training session for me... I didn't think that my disciple and my master's pet would start brawling in the meantime.' Let's examine how her statement connects with what we know. From Skirk: 1.Her master raised the Narwhal in Teyvat's Primordial Sea. 2.It was supposed to be her short private training session. 3.She didn't know that Childe and the Narwhal were fighting each other in the meantime. From what we know: 1.The Narwhal already consumed all of Primordial Sea's water, so its next target is the people of Fontaine who have Primordial water within them. 2.Childe held back the Narwhal for a long time. The assumption that makes sense from their words is that Skirk's master raised the Narwhal in the Primordial Sea for her training. She intended to wait until it consumed all the primordial water before fighting it. Unfortunately, she noticed too late that the Narwhal had already consumed all of the Primordial Sea and was about to attack the Fontaine people. If it weren't for Childe stopping it for 40+ days. And this is why what you said hasn't convinced me. If she was there when the Narwhal had consumed all of the Primordial Sea's water, she would have fought the whale for her training right then and stopped the Narwhal before it went on to attack Fontaine. You could argue that when she was there with Childe, the whale had not finished consuming the whole sea yet. However, I doubt that's the case as well, because why would she not have noticed that the Narwhal was about to finish eating? So, my assumption is that she only arrives when we've already beaten the whale. That's why she said, "Thank you for helping with the 'cleanup.' It should've been my job, but... Oh well," when we first met her.
@@bluesnow7004 Ok here you go Skirk: "That kind of power is wasted on it. It's not cooperative, it's eat too much...even my disciple has more important things to do with his time than pet-sitting. The only thing that creature has going for it is its looks." ( Someone's jealous) " That the All-Devouring Narwhal used up all its strength fighting you." "Such roiling hydro energy will prove difficult for the planet's deep seas to digest" Roil: make a liquid turbid or muddy by disturbing the sediment "As such, the Fontaine back on the surface has most likely been thrown into chaos" As for the whale eating all of the primordial sea then moving to the surface to eat the people of Fontaine: When we enter the portal we are literally standing on mountains of that stuff so the space whale got no reason to eat the people of Fontaine, what's even more surprising is that during the second Archon quest there were too much Primordial sea water even with the whale eating it all for the last 400 / 500 or so years. (Info about how long the whale have been eating primordial sea water for I got from the Fontaine institute quest. It might even be longer than that who knows) Oh and this is just my personal thoughts but I think that the plan to fool Celestia was created by Focalor and Surtalogi to "stall" the punishment from Celestia. The reason why I said stall: Even after everything that happened, you could only fool them for so long, sooner or later they will realise what's going on. When that happens an even worse punishment than the primordial sea will come. Navia: " It feels like someone left these slates and these words here for a purpose. But does HE mean that Fontaine should be destroyed?" I think it is also worth pointing out that Focalor herself never said she created the Oratrice. Not once did I hear her say that she created the thing. Focalor: "MY work over these five hundred years...has been to constantly accumulate Indemnitium within the Oratrice."
While you are in the Express in Star Rail, if you hear the News, they talk about a newly found simulated universe that is inside a cave (I don't remember other details). Just a thought. Btw, Skirk is almost certainly from Teyvat. She said that has been in the Abyss for many years, and she has not "gone up to the surface". Her many years may be decades if not centuries with the way she talked. But she never mentioned visiting other worlds, at least I didn't notice anything like that. Also, the Heavenly Principles are focused too much as the bad guys right now, and it makes me feel there are more things behind this.
Irminsul has been said to have its roots on the Abyss, and its also been hinted at being upside down. If a tree usually has its roots on the ground, an upside down tree would have its roots... on the sky. So by connecting the dots, one could infer that the Abyss is, in fact, in the sky of Teyvat. And it would explain the "skies are fake", because it could be a barrier separating Teyvat from the Abyss. Also much of the Fontaine lore call abyssal beasts like Elynas as "Star Beasts", and the Narwhal is literally called "Visitor from the far side of the Sea of Stars". So yeah, the Abyss is the Cosmos beyond the sky. And people that come from other worlds in the cosmos could be considered "Abyss Dwellers", like Skirk, Surtalogi and Rhinnedotir.
Just make abyss run - and you come from down to top - in the end the moon got bigger and so on - that make sense in this case. Than you go to the correct sky not the false sky.
Considering Surtalogi's obsession with "power from beyond" he might be another extremely powerful Khaenri'ahn. Also taking into account that he taught Skirk the way of the sword we can deduce that he might have been part of one of the many Knights Order in Khaenri'ah like Schwanenritter which Marshall Anfortas was the leader of or the Black Serpant Knights which Dainsleif was the leader of. But he is also compared to Rhinedottir so he could very well be part of the Royal Mages of Khaenri'ah. Also if we really go into crack theory he can be the sinner as Surtr was destined to cause Ragnarok (Doomsday) but was defeated by Thor wielding the power of Odin and banished him to the Sea of Eternal Night. In Genshin's terms, Sutalogi might have been the one to start a war with the Heavenly Principles but the Sustainer wielding the powers of the Primordial One defeated him and banished him to the Abyss.
@@GhostEmblem Dainslief is the captain of the Black Serpents but that particular group was the head of the Royal Guard. There was likely several groups leading the royal army of Khaenri'ah and the general Royal Guard wer emore similar to militiamen like the Fontaine Garde or the Inazuman Shogunate Samurais.
I am pretty sure Skirk is from Teyvat. She said that she has not surfaced since she was a young girl, I understand it as she saying she is from Teyvat. And they don’t seem do wanna get into Teyvat like you said, they already have the power to go any where and “The Foul” knows things about Teyvat.
At this point IDK what to think, We know that Tayvat has a barrier around it somehow that seals it off. the Sustainer of Heavenly Principles defeated the Primordial One & the 4 Shades. Then used the 3rd descender to make the Ginoses and create the 7 Archons to rule the 7 nations. Then Khaenriah was experimenting with the Abyss creating monsters and through the Abyss both visitors and creatures from outside Tayvat was breaking through the Barrier and entering Tayvat, Then The Sustainer of Heavenly Principles destroys Khaenriah and now we have alot of outside attention being drawn to Tayvat. It seems like the Sustainer want to put a stop to People & Things Entering and leaving Tayvat. We know in HSR people are aloud to travel from World to World on the Star Rail Express. Expect for Tayvat. So ether because Genshin is a prequel to HSR where the Star Rail Express isn’t been created yet or because Tayvat is not technologically advanced enough to handle other worldly threats. Fontaine is most technologically advanced place in Tayvat, and that is still just “Steampunk Era”. Nothing like the technology we see in HSR.
Surtalogi is a play word on Surtr-Loki. A fusion of Surtr the firy giant demon that would end existence starting by the destruction of Asgard (Realm of the Gods), he is the ruler of the world of Fire (muspelheim) and Loki god of mieschief whom 3 children will anable the start of Ragnarok : Jormungandr the world water serpent that grew so much that he encircled the world and bite his own tail (like Ouroboros), Fenrir aka Fenrisurflr the giant wolf messenger of misfortune and Hel or Hella the goddess of Death who rules the underworld. So this is pretty big, kinda implies his overall importance. His title The Foul hint something about Skirk and Ajax. Basically using the Foul Legacy is like utilsing The will/power of Surtalogi. Verdrfolnir in north myth is NOT the eagle. Actually Verdrfolnir is an awk perched between the 2 eyes of the Giant bird living at the top of Yggdrasil the World tree, perched on the highest branch. There is many theory on what Verdrfolnir represent. The wisdom of the eagle ? (Like Odin/Irmin with his ravens), a messenger ? (Tho that is already Ratatoskr job) we dont know. In genshin they are named The Visionary so much like Barbeloth or Nicole they are a prophet/ess, capable of divination, astrology on a worldwide scale Anyway Surtalogi The Foul Verdrfolnir The Visionary Rhinedottir Gold Scandinavian names ? Seems like they are Khaenri'han to me but I could be wrong(tho the only scandinavian people in Genshin are all related to Khaenri'ha like Alberich Dainsleif Skirk or Kær Anyway I love your videos and this one is no exception 🎉🎉
Surtalogi is directly referenced in the Nibelungenlied; It's specifically the fire Surtr used to burn the world during Ragnarok. Nothing to do with Loki.
It's been clear for a while that names of mythology that have a negative reference are given to Companions. If he is a reference to Surtur, he will likely represent the opposite of the bringer of ragnarok and be trying to prevent it.
While a lot of lore does pertain to Norse mythology, Childe and Skirk are very likely at least somewhat inspired by Irish mythology, Childe is based off of Cú Chulain, with Skirk being based on his master, Scáthach
It's all linked to Norse Mythology because Khaenri'ah is heavily inspired by norse mythology; just as Mondstadt is to Germany, Liyue to China, Inazuma to Japan, etc... Khaenri'ah is most likely Nordic/Norse. The ruins, the names of the black serpent nights and everything else heavily implies Norse mythology.
the one thing i’m rlly looking forward to in the end of the game is how the intermingling of all the factions ends up playing out. we’ve got the archons, fatui, dragons, celestia, hexenzirkle, abyss order, seelies and now surtalogi etc. it’s becoming harder and harder to understand who’s antagonistic and who’s not. the traveller’s choice will be gut wrenchingly hard. at first i thought celestia would be the big evil bosses but the invasion of this otherwordly narwhal, which itself is the plaything of this otherwordly faction of beings like skirk and surt, means there could deff be an argument to be made about celestia not being as bad as they’ve been presented - well on an intergalactic scale. imagine if celestia and the HP are really just trying to defend teyvat from the higher-order threats, no matter the method? perspective is key in this game and N opened up that door for us. not only did perspective allow fontaine to be saved by focalors looking beyond fate, but it looks like it will be a HUGE deal going forward. early in the game, our limited perspective made us think the tsaritsa was an antagonist and her plan was probably to fuck over the other gods for whatever reason. over time we’ce realised her plan likely has to do with overhtrowing celestia instead, and now here i am looming over the possibility that celestia has a plan to destroy something else too. truthfully, i didnt expect skirk to be revealed so soon - as she has been, i genuinely expect us to meet someone from celestia relatively soon - a representative of sorts. i hope at least, cause that would add another piece into this ever-growing puzzle of who the bag guys really are. or maybe there are no bad guys? or maybe the bad guys are fate itself? or maybe, like the progenitor of hoyo games, the legend of saha does, we can never save the day until teyvat itself is annihilated.
the Cryo archon and the hexenzirkel are plotting to overthrown the Usurper, The second who Came. maybe some character and member of this group are the remnant of the primodial one, the shades.
Ine thing I realized watching this video is that Skirk is probably named after a Norse being as well. When I looked it up (and specified Norse Mythology), I got two results: Nixies, which are Germanic water spirits, and Skírnir, who's name means "Bright One" and who was a messenger of the god Freyr. The weirdest part is that both cases suggest that Skirk should be male.
Okay so theory/speculation that skirks masters gonna be Otto apocalypse's counterpart cause she (1) shares the same Jp va as Durandal and her master was Otto (2) durandal was a valkyrie just like her (3) at the end Otto managed to become a sort of fake god so maybe that'll reflect on surtalogi?
If they wanted to destroy Teyvat, they probably could have already. here's what i think.... 1. The first Descender is the Primordial One aka Thanes aka the Heavenly Principals aka Paimon (yes... that's not a typo. She did a dendro archon move and lost her memories and became a child). 2. The Sustainer of Heavenly Principals is the 2nd Descender. 3. The Third descender is the exiled Dragon King who returned with powers from outside the world, and was chopped up into the Gnosis after he lost a second time.
yeah I dunno if it's just me , but Fontaine really brought the story back to the front for me. It's completely shattered the existing paradigm and added sooo many new big threads. Shattered almost the entirety of UA-cam genshin theory craft. The one thing I'm confused about is , all this activity outside of and around the teyvat world seems busier than I assumed Im thinking it's definitely heading towards so he type of coalition against something but at this pt ? fk if I know lol
It feels like there's a priceless treasure on teyvat or the teyvat itself is the treasure and thats why so many people including beings from other universes are interested in it
also hoyoverse loooovesss to make puns with their characters, so “the foul” (fowl) representing the crow would make sense. love the content keep it up 🫶🫶
Surtalogi's power is same as the foul legacy transformation. So basically it's the will of surtalogi. @_@ is this surtalogi even alive? I guess not damn.
@@masternoob7859well we have seen people being able to communicate with beings that have passed on. Pervases, Rukkadevata,Makoto and so on being examples
@@nothmm8582These are particular and a one time thing while Skirk seems to talk/live with her Master on the daily basis + she said her Master was RAISING the stellavore narwal
I have an outlandish theory. In the Caribart quest, the Primordial refers to himself as a sinner, and creating life without Celestia's permission is a sin in Teyvat. Perhaps he was referring to becoming a sinner after the second one who took the throne. The Hillichurls were praying to him, and they are people of Khaenri'ah. He also possesses an insane power that could restore Caribert's mind. He is linked to the Abyss, which suggests that he might be hiding there beyond Celestia's reach. His power is likely similar to what Skrik called "power from beyond this world," which may have given him enough strength to bring back Caribart's mind.
Its even more interesting, since Hilichurism (and "The Curse of the Wilderness") by the records seems existed way before the Khaenri'ah incident, not to mention being native to Tayvat (with its most nations), and likely directly linked to the Tayvat Curses Systems of Celestia.
The entity we met in the Caribert quest refers to themselves as a 'sinner, but why are you calling them Primordial and saying their sin was to create life? As I understand it, the Primordial One who created humanity doesn't need Celestia's permission to create life. The Primordial One is Celestia's ruler. The Sinner's 'sin' is more likely related to forbidden knowledge than the creation of life.
Also, nobody so far, neither in lore or in in-game, ever said that the Sinner in Caribert was ever the Primordial one. The play right now is to actually get to know who the Sinner is, and why Dainsleif is actually worried that it took notice of the Traveler
skirk, her master and the hexzenzirkle have fucked the power scaling lmao Traveller has a lot of ascending to do if he wants to beat the heavenly principals
1) Surtalogi is referenced by name in Wagner's Nibelungenlied, and is specifically the flame used by Surtr to burn the world during Ragnarok. 2) Skirk's name is most likely an alternate romanization of Κίρκη, or Circe. Another possibility is that she's a reference to Skuld of Norse mythology, the goddess of the past (along with Verdandi and Urdr, the Norse version of the Greek Fates).
But Dainsleif himself doesn't agree with Khainreah. This means Khainreah is indeed doing a bad thing. Dainsleif hates Khainreah because they do bad things and need punishment. Dainsleif hates Celestia because they also punish innocent people.
Dain could be wrong. Don't forgot the curse of Erosion is erasing his memories. So it may be he started out agreeing with Khaenri'ah but centuries of memory loss plus the Nations demonizing Khaenri'ah as the ones who caused the Cataclysm, could have him internalizing the negativity Teyvat has about his homeland and thinking Khaenri'ah was doing something wrong. The curse of Erosion means Dain is incapable of being an reliable source. That said, even if Khaenri'ah as a whole is more or less innocent, I do think that Gold and any supporters she had were up to something shady. That there were at least someone who were up to no good, whether they were actively malicious or too obsessed with their research to think things through and wound up crossing the line.
Surtalogi, (Nordic pagan here) is the weapon SURTR used to burn away the earth and kill it. So when I heard this name I assumed the person is using the abyss to try and burn away or drown Teyvat in the abyss. It’s not a fire it’s the weapon well the weapon is made of fire so yes it’s a fire but it’s mainly a weapon.
Skirk😍😍😍😋😋😋...all i can say is behind her beautiful appearance will be dangerous and yet powerful character...i hope Hoyoverse make her as a available character to buy...
Quick fun fact if people didn’t know, genshin impact, honkai impact, and honkai star rail are all connected tg but the imaginary tree and we realize this when Welt from honkai impact travels into honkai star rail through a random portal. Hopefully we get a game after all of them ends and the imaginary tree is just something like a toy for the gods that u have to fight
I bet there would be another descender in the future of the Archon Quests maybe in Khaenri’ah? But it’s not going to be called “Archon Quest” specifically
I kinda always thought that Skirk and Childe were bit like Scathach and Cuchulain, especially the Fate version where Scathach is elevated to this otherwordly being. Training in "Abyss" of sorts. They both even share a sea monster theme, since Cu got his cursed sea monster bone spear from Scat.
'A mysterious and gargantuan creature from another world. Poets often liken the starry sky to the ocean. They've seen or dreamt of countless bioluminescent plankton floating on a moonless sea, resembling a galaxy, or the moonlight ripped apart by waves on the sea's surface, like shimmering stars. In the most fantastical stories or outrageous lies, the stars found in the depths of the cosmos might be teeming with life, much like Teyvat, and the universe itself is akin to an ocean. Realistically speaking, however, if a profound universe full of life exists, why hasn't any of that life made contact with Teyvat? Maybe the universe has been constantly trying to infiltrate Teyvat, or maybe a higher power created borders to protect this world.' quoted from the discription of the all devouring narwhal. this makes me think that when dettore told nahida about the "skys are fake" and stuff the fatui might have the info on who actually is PROTECTING or ISOLATING teyvat from the "sae of stars".. just my little speculation lol
Celeatia = Asgard Realm of the gods Monstat = Midgard Land of the humans and fairy tale first region you get to explore Leyie = Svartálfaheim Mainly put this one here because of the chasm and all the forging that comes with ore Inazuma = Jotunheim This was the last one that just kinda matched it together, but with it being a realm of chaos and tatarasuna exists as well ass that damn Sakura blessings quest, I think It fits. Sumeru = Alfheim Land of fairy's and elf's and other mystical creatures, kinda fits the hole sumeru vibe Natlan = Muspelheim Nation of war and pyro vs the land of the fire giants? Not to far off Snezhnaya = Niflheim Same as above nation of cryo and the ice giants realm Abyss = Helhiem Kinda self explanatory but basically hell Idk if anyone else thought of this of has spoken about this at all, but I just wanted to share the thoughts I had from this video.
Here is my theory We are playing genshin impact phase #1 I suspect that phase #2 will be a prequel, it's gonna be about the first decender or primordial one AKA paimon. I suspect we'll play as one of paimon's shades or angels. Either the God of life, death, time or space. And we'll fight the Elemental Dragons from the primordial age, and we'll witness paimon being dethroned by the unknown God. Genshin impact Phase #3 I suspect we'll understand more about were the decenders actually come from, and I suspect the witches know the answer cause they are astrologists, they deal with things in outer space. So I suspect our key powers there would be celestial Energy and abbysal energy. Which will link us to hokai impact.
Well we do know rhine. Or R, the creator of albedo. She's called gold. Rhine comes from rhinemaidens from norse mythology, aka the three water nymphs. And guess what: they protected the rhine gold, which could be stolen by saying no to love. They have many stories, but u know one guy who tried to steal that gold? Alberich. And... do u know how these water nymphs are also called? Oceanids. In greek mythos
Albedo's clone has a vision. Does that mean there are many ways to bypass the acquisition of visions or could it be things in teyvat has already occurred and one can take a character out from the scene and go back at a certain point in time. Hence why we see a clone.
..But Skirks master is Rhinedottr, it was clearly said that Albedo's creator is skirks master. Along with that, with the context that Rhinedottr release the riftwolves and the golden wolflord into teyvat, it makes sense that Rhinedottr has the whale as a pet.
No... Here's is the exact lines from the scene: Skirk: Still nothing? Well, how about "The Visionary," Vedrfolnir then? Or "Gold," Rhinedottir? Paimon: Ooh, that one we've heard! Rhinedottir's part of the Hexenzirkel - she's Albedo's mom, right? Skirk: Ah, so you do know that name. To be honest, I also heard all of those names and titles from my Master. Skirk: But I suppose you understand now, yes? - they are both "pursuing some form of perfection."
Rhinedottr was an analogy to her master, not the same person. Since the traveler didnt know who skirk was talking about, they needed someone to compare them to so skirk choose rhinedottr
The Chinese titles of all 3 skirk mentioned are Foul "the evil knight/dark knight" (depends on your understanding) Gold "the breeder" Vidrfolnir "the prophet" Also you said sustainer is not a good person tbf sustainer work is not to sit and see how the world is going to be destroyed sustainer is the one who sustaine the heavenly order this is the same order that primordial one established as the gnosis were given to archons The previous order has been malfunctioning if u interpret neuvillette about vision lines the past order has been running wild for a long time and therefore no indications as if it has came in control again According to nahida heavenly principles is the overseeing the matters of teyvat not primordial one "The sustainer is dying the master of heaven has yet to arrive" now this line makes more sense as if primordial one is missing/have gone somewhere or is doing something (most likely trying to stop the world's resentment,loathing from going out of control Note: the plot of 7 nations is to make celestia looks like an enemy while celestia have done nothing wrong but stopping people from creating humans clones and when civilizations were almost destroyed teyvat Teyvat is already in a pinch after the war of vengeance and pierro talking about destroying the old world as if he wants to establish a new order Jakob says the pheasants have no right to sit on throne just like this world Dainsleif says the throne in the sky is not for you But in the midst of everything the momento quest item whale drops says the new shining star and darkness cornering the world hinting towards the fate of twins
I have a question , why skirk made childe her disciple among all people of Teyvat ? He was chased by wolves and bears, and while running for his life the earth opened up beneath him , he fell into the abyss Who is Childe exactly .. And why is he very similar to Surtalogi , are they related ? Maybe the stories his father told him about the adventurer were surtalogi's That's the question Fontain quets left in my head
If Skirk and her master, and the witches are not from this world then like Traveler, they all are "Descenders", right? Even the Narwhale is a descender.
Skirk, Gold, Alice and other powerful witch might be trying to protect Teyvet's border from the Abyss realm and beyond. Surtalogi might be their leader like Shadow to the 7 shade in Eminence in the Shadows. Surtalogic might also be Klee's father. This is just my theory any way. I mean if this proves to be true Surtalogi might be our main harem protagonist. Edit: This comment is meant to be a joke so don't feel offended.
The foul i thinks its more like Loki, loki had 3 monster children ,hel, fenrir and jormungand, jourmungand was described has a jiant snake or worm that dwell in the world sea sounds oddly familiar, since in norse mythology there was no whale monster including leviathan(this one is from the bible not norse originally), but mosts sea monsters were whale or sea serpent also jormungand its a foody serpent that wants to eat all to the point that it bites its own tail.
Why do I have this stupid idea that genshin impact is a VR game in HSR and the game is locked like sword art online and the player can’t get out. The abyss is the area between reality and virtual reality and is stopping and interference between the 2.
the assumption that khaenri'ah was attacking the other nations is false. They were likewise trying to beat back monsters of the abyss, and its those abyss monsters that took down the archons. overall good video tho
narwal was Interfering with child Constellation as we can see in narwal boss fight thats why traveler got Vision from child vision and thats why He couldn't use his vision
ties perfectly to the theme of Curses in Fontain, which is connected to how Constalation and Celestia Tayvat system work
@@lostangaming4011 😂
Narwal is not from teyvat also
I like her quote when she said communication with humans is hard because otherworldly beings will have a different form of common sense.
Using Dubsteb when Abbyss monster appear is prove that Abbyss power is not from Teyvat world
literally explained our new society in 1 line.
It's also shown when Skirk missed the point of Paimon's question about her master's pet.
@@syarifairlangga4608you xan say im not human from the earth because my talk and understanding is different from all normal human.
@@Ashleycolorful more like explaining human in difference continent in the world.
Asian people just cant understand why sometime western people do their thing and vice versa
Childe's relation to the Narwhale is that he encountered it during his time in the Abyss and Skirk never told him what it really was. It left a huge imprint on him and is the reason he has a vision as a copy of it manifests in his burst. He's been seeking that whale to kill it but he's just not strong enough (yet)
This was the 'personal business' he was on in Fontaine.
As a honkai player, your theory might not be so far fetch
Skirk and her power compared to the rest of teyvat really make her seems like she come straight from honkai impact 3
She definitely looks like jingliu from star rail
No, she looks like Bella from Honkai Impact@@doctordifficult2709
@@doctordifficult2709 Nah, google Durandal Palatinus Equinox, that's who she actually is, they have the same VA as well. Durandal is one of the major characters of HI3rd, and Skirk's design is basically a "abyss" version of her Palatinus Equinox suit.
@@GuyWithAnAmazingHattbh she looks like benares
power scale suddenly jump from sword & magic to Cosmic being 😅
Shits crazy bro. Straight jumped from fantasy to sci-fi. Fontaine really upped the powerscaling like crazy
Skirt fine as hell I’m not even mad about her design anymore
Idk much about Honkai, but all this lore about Skirk gives me alotta vibes that she's not from the Genshin bubble universe
Also she just looks a lot like a character from Honkai compared to Genshin
Yea google Durandal Palatinus Equinox, that's who she actually is, they have the same VA as well. Durandal is one of the major characters of HI3rd, and Skirk's design is basically a "abyss" version of her Palatinus Equinox suit.
@@GuyWithAnAmazingHat that's sick, thanks for the info.
If I recall correctly 3 years passed for childe when he came back to teyvat it was only a few days, his family was shocked that he came back older and stronger
I think it was 3 months in abyss time as he was missing for 3 days in teyvat time
Abyss is basically the hyperbolic time chamber from DBZ
@@fullyf2p40ive always called him the goku of genshin so this sticks
No. 3 months in the Abyss = 3 days in Teyvat. He didnt came back older.
Where do all this misconception/mischaracterization comes from?
Surtalogi, Skirk and Childe might have connection with Alice and her magic cabal in some form or another, I'm not surprised if Klee and Kaeya will have interesting interactions with Skirk in the future regarding personal and worldbuilding lore that would bring great implications of Khaenri'ah as a whole, knowing how Surtalogi, Childe, Alice and Kaeya more than often have way more knowledge than they supposed to be
If Genshin will do awakened characters' release akin to both Honkai Impact and Honkai Star Rail does, Kaeya would be very likely to be the first among 4* while Klee would be also logical to be the first among 5* to have their hypothetical awakened characters' releases during 7th region if not after 7 Nations being opened (as it would go beyond the 7 Nations of Teyvat into uncharted dreams which also something Khaenri'ah envisioned for the future of humanity in Teyvat), both of them are released as earliest characters afterall so there could be thematic to these, as Honkai Impact also have a lot of awakened characters from loli body to adult-sized body characters to show their growth in-game lore and character (well, most of the time at least, Crimson Vow is still quite childish compared to most other characters in Honkai Impact despite having powers rivalling among the strongest in Honkai Impact's power-scaled characters alone)
Your not far offer honestly.
the way she effortlessly folded that whale into a black hole was the highlight of this story ngl. also i need them to show a cutscene of teyvat from space bc that would be interesting
notice how childe's 3rd phase, the foul legacy, has similar moves & fx with that visitor from far, far away (whale phase 2). that's why childe is the weakiest harbingers. his vision & delusion skills are kind of mid, then his 3rd phase is not reliable enough for longer battles.
"THE FOUL" legacy... I think it's safe to assume that Childe's transformation in an interior version of Surt's battle form. I think he can use multiple weapons at once
Childe is noted to be one of the strongest harbingers in a physical fight, I don't think his vision/delusion skills are lacking, I just think the fatui values economic/political/commercial strength over physical strength, shown by Pantalone being ranked higher than him.
@@Twag7childe also had no previous standing. These other characters already had established places and powers. Ajax was just some kid that joined. Also the rankings may not be based on power in the first place. Probably is though.
@@Waffle-dogIts not based on only power.
Its based on their overall contributiom to the tsaritsa's cause.
Take note that the 11 harbingers are identified as the most powerful among the fatui and added the terms political influence, fame, wealth, etc.
So its kinda obvious that harbinger ranking is based on more than just power in terms of battle because if its just based on power/ hard hitters, Childe should be at top 7 or 8 (Wanderer timeline).
Plus if they changed the rankings, it would just create another discourse and drama and we all know that the harbingers dont get along with one another. Heck, they havent even updated who will the new 6th and 8th harbinger since wanderer changed the original timeline and signora died.
If he finds a way to stabilise the foul legacy then he's definitely going to go up in the harbinger ladder
Fun thing about Ragnarok is that it's not "the end", it is "a ending". The majority of gods, giants, humans etc die, but, afterwards the world and the survivors rise again, cleansed and renewed.
One interesting note, Odin, while concealing his true powers, wandered all around in order to learn the secret truths of the world. In English, he is called "The Wanderer.".
I won't be surprised if Genshin introduced jumping from one world to another
I'm Polish and the only reason these new characters are so mysterious and don't want to spill any secret is because there's not a single bottle of vodka when any important conversation happens. I hope it changes when Снежная/Snezhnaya is released.
For your hope of her playability, my expectation is that if she's playable, she'll make her playable debut in the Khaenri'ah chapter scheduled to come after Snezhneya. So, yeah, enjoy waiting until 2026.
Yeah, pretty sure Dainsleif will be released before her, likely in the first few versions. Gotta wait for the Archon Quest series to come to a close after meeting the Tsaritsa though.
god all the best characters we gotta wait uuugggghhh
@@sidlarson8374 Yeah I legit think genshin will peak in khaenriah just off the possible characters that could be playable in that chapter.
she doesnt look like she comes from genshin so i doubt she'll be playable
Rheindottr refers to the daughters of the river rhein, basically water nymphs whose river possessed gold and great fortune. Alberich the king of the dwarves (and Khanreiah) steals the rhein daughters' gold to fashion a magic ring. Skirk may refer to Circe--pronounced 'surs'--a goddess of sorcery from Greek mythos. She is known for turning her enemies to animals, most notably Scylla, who in the Genshin world, is the dragon prince who fights Remus. Also, Skirk's master Surtalogi may refer both to Surtr, the King of the flame giants and Loki, the norse god of chaos and mischief. Either way he's definitely an antagonist, which in the world of Teyvat probably means he's one of the biggest heroes.
Don't forget that the Foul in CN is called "Knight of Extreme Evil" and Childe's transformation is called "Demon Lord Armor". I think Genshin is going for typical Asian subversion of "evil" heavens(Celestia) vs "good" Demon Lord/Maou(Surtalogi being named after the weapon of the *big bad* of North mythology)
It's been said the only way to actually fight against Celestia is with "power from beyond this world" which is Abyssal power as well as whatever powers the Descenders have when they arrive.
The Bloodstained Knight? Dain? Irmin? I think it's gonna be someone related to Dain rather than the Bloodstained Knight but you never know.
Foul Legacy..
Plot twist: Teyvat was a mid B minus project made by herta
I'm guessing The Abyss is going to turn out to be the typical "by all means possible" villain. Basically, good intentions, but going about it the wrong way.
Bit of a prediction: After beating the Abyss we choose to carry on their mission and storm Celestia, where after a climactic battle we rip open the sky Shadowlands style and challenge The Heavenly Principles directly.
Hard to say where Snezhnaya fits into all of this, if they are against The Abyss or The Heavenly Principles. Though maybe I'm forgetting some interaction between them and The Abyss at some point.
Scaramouche went to the abyss for Pierro.
I personally think the abyss is split into factions. From what we see of it they appear more chaotic or organized at many points in the story. This is even true when Heralds are present.
Yes they need to make skirk playable❤
Fun fact:
Surtalogi Skirk's master, he is very similar to Dainsleif, they are both named after swords
Surtalogi is the sword of the fire giant Surtr in Norse mythology . With this the fire giant set the world on fire at Ragnarök.
Dainsleif belonged to king Högni who was a legendary king in Viking mythology. The Dainsleif sword was made by the dwarf Dain who was among the most famous and talented craftsmen in the cosmos. The word "Dainsleif" meant "Dain's legacy".
(similar to how Childe transformation is called Foul legacy)
Also according to both Furina and Focalor the prophecy/punishment was send by Celestia . So the rising primordial sea level wasn't the whale doing but Celestia, Surtalogi just send the whale there to eat primordial sea water (Skirk confirm this). He most likely did this to stall Celestia punishment on Fontaine .
According to Skirk dialogue she let Childe petsitting the whale. So basically:
-Childe escape prison
-go into primordial sea
-meet whale
-swim up to the surface
-meet Skirk
-Skirk ask Childe to watch over the whale while she go do something
-Skirk leave
-Childe fight whale
-whale swim up to opera house and start attacking peoples
... honestly sounds like something he would do
Theory:
1 .
Gold might be infertile (or can't get pregnant) you see it is a common myth or belief that witches cannot get pregnant, yes Alice is Klee's mom but what if the same cannot be said for everyone else like say Gold (where am I going with this? You'll see in a moment) .
So with this in mind, Gold one of the royal of Khaenriah, with a desire for a child to called her own, use Khemia and started practicing her craft in creating life.
This would explain why one of her first creation, the rift hound lack intelligence unlike her later creations like Durin,Elynas,etc... but until this point she have only created monsters and dragons. What she want is a human son so she created her first human Surtalogi, Surtalogi might have impurity, but with her emotional attachment to her first son, she didn't dispose of him ( unlike what she did with Albedo's half digested brother, favoritism).
Much like Durin, Surtalogi also wanted to see the world outside of Khaenriah, Gold agree to let him leave the same way she did with Durin . While exploring Teyvat he might have caught the attention of the Archons or Celestia itself, they later found out what Surtalogi is and What Gold have done. So they carry out punishment on Khaenriah ( similar to Fontaine) .
Debunking
Why I called Gold a royal?
-According to Dainsleif Albedo title back in Khaenriah was Kreideprinz translate to English means chalk prince and Gold is Albedo's mom so...yeah.
Why did I say that Surtalogi have impurity?
-Surtalogi title is The Foul.
Dirty, filthy, foul, nasty, squalid mean conspicuously unclean or impure.
Why did I say Gold have emotional attachment to Surtalogi?
-because unlike Albedo's brother (susbedo) he is still walking around, either that or he just run away from Gold
Why did I say he was a creation of Gold and is the cause of Khaenriah demise?
- according to Dainsleif, Khaenriah was destroyed because of the use of Khemia/ alchemy/ the art of creating life. With the Fontaine Archon quests and Surtalogi name I think most people can put 2 and 2 together.
Surtalogi was the sword and not the wielder or craftsman. He was the sword that started the flame, burning Khaenriah like what we saw in the we will be reunited trailer.
Theory 2:
Skirk might not be a decender (emphasis on might), Skirk said she no longer return to the surface/ Teyvat especially after finding out the truth about the gnosis. She also said that she have been training under Surtalogi ever since she was small (most likely sometime 500 years ago after Khaenriah got destroyed) so...yeah.
Theory 3
Surtalogi might be in possession of a gnosis. Skirk said she have seen a gnosis before . Given that for the past 500 years we know where all the gnosis are
Anemo in Venti body
same for Zhongli
Makoto die,Ei become the Archon and give the gnosis to Yae Miko sometime 500 years ago
The one who shall not be named die, give birth to Nahida, also give Nahida the gnosis and Nahida was locked away for 500 years
And the hydro Archon put the gnosis inside the Oratrice to stored power for the last 500 years
All we know now is that the Pyro gnosis is still somewhere in Natlan that's why The Captain is there (still not much lore there)
So by process of elimination the only possible way that Skirk could have seen a gnosis is with the Cryo gnosis
( Or maybe Surtalogi is in possession of an entirely different gnosis with new element who knows)
Forgot one more
Theory 4
Surtalogi will most likely be revealed as a Fatui harbinger
Zanni (Aka Giovanni) from italian commedia dell'arte
If you are curious why I think that look up " Fatui constellations" and look at the mask on top
Then search up " Star Rail Giovanni "
Put those two masks side by side and you'll see what I mean
Considering the fact that Skirk is incredibly similar to Jingliu and both Jingliu and Giovanni was introduced in the same version...yeah there's definitely something going on there
Just a fun discussion, and if you don't have time, no worries!
I'm still not convinced with your timeline of events. You mentioned that Childe met Skirk when he first arrived at the Primordial Sea, and then she left to do something. While it's a possible interpretation, she never explicitly said that, right? So, what quotes from her lead you to believe this is the case?
She mentioned, 'It was just supposed to be a short private training session for me... I didn't think that my disciple and my master's pet would start brawling in the meantime.' Let's examine how her statement connects with what we know.
From Skirk:
1.Her master raised the Narwhal in Teyvat's Primordial Sea.
2.It was supposed to be her short private training session.
3.She didn't know that Childe and the Narwhal were fighting each other in the meantime.
From what we know:
1.The Narwhal already consumed all of Primordial Sea's water, so its next target is the people of Fontaine who have Primordial water within them.
2.Childe held back the Narwhal for a long time.
The assumption that makes sense from their words is that Skirk's master raised the Narwhal in the Primordial Sea for her training. She intended to wait until it consumed all the primordial water before fighting it. Unfortunately, she noticed too late that the Narwhal had already consumed all of the Primordial Sea and was about to attack the Fontaine people. If it weren't for Childe stopping it for 40+ days.
And this is why what you said hasn't convinced me. If she was there when the Narwhal had consumed all of the Primordial Sea's water, she would have fought the whale for her training right then and stopped the Narwhal before it went on to attack Fontaine. You could argue that when she was there with Childe, the whale had not finished consuming the whole sea yet. However, I doubt that's the case as well, because why would she not have noticed that the Narwhal was about to finish eating?
So, my assumption is that she only arrives when we've already beaten the whale. That's why she said, "Thank you for helping with the 'cleanup.' It should've been my job, but... Oh well," when we first met her.
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Ok here you go
Skirk:
"That kind of power is wasted on it. It's not cooperative, it's eat too much...even my disciple has more important things to do with his time than pet-sitting. The only thing that creature has going for it is its looks."
( Someone's jealous)
" That the All-Devouring Narwhal used up all its strength fighting you."
"Such roiling hydro energy will prove difficult for the planet's deep seas to digest"
Roil: make a liquid turbid or muddy by disturbing the sediment
"As such, the Fontaine back on the surface has most likely been thrown into chaos"
As for the whale eating all of the primordial sea then moving to the surface to eat the people of Fontaine:
When we enter the portal we are literally standing on mountains of that stuff so the space whale got no reason to eat the people of Fontaine, what's even more surprising is that during the second Archon quest there were too much Primordial sea water even with the whale eating it all for the last 400 / 500 or so years.
(Info about how long the whale have been eating primordial sea water for I got from the Fontaine institute quest. It might even be longer than that who knows)
Oh and this is just my personal thoughts but I think that the plan to fool Celestia was created by Focalor and Surtalogi to "stall" the punishment from Celestia.
The reason why I said stall:
Even after everything that happened, you could only fool them for so long, sooner or later they will realise what's going on.
When that happens an even worse punishment than the primordial sea will come.
Navia:
" It feels like someone left these slates and these words here for a purpose. But does HE mean that Fontaine should be destroyed?"
I think it is also worth pointing out that Focalor herself never said she created the Oratrice. Not once did I hear her say that she created the thing.
Focalor:
"MY work over these five hundred years...has been to constantly accumulate Indemnitium within the Oratrice."
In HSR terms:
Surtalogi - The Destruction
Skirk - The Finality
Etc, interesting right
While you are in the Express in Star Rail, if you hear the News, they talk about a newly found simulated universe that is inside a cave (I don't remember other details). Just a thought.
Btw, Skirk is almost certainly from Teyvat. She said that has been in the Abyss for many years, and she has not "gone up to the surface". Her many years may be decades if not centuries with the way she talked. But she never mentioned visiting other worlds, at least I didn't notice anything like that.
Also, the Heavenly Principles are focused too much as the bad guys right now, and it makes me feel there are more things behind this.
Irminsul has been said to have its roots on the Abyss, and its also been hinted at being upside down. If a tree usually has its roots on the ground, an upside down tree would have its roots... on the sky. So by connecting the dots, one could infer that the Abyss is, in fact, in the sky of Teyvat. And it would explain the "skies are fake", because it could be a barrier separating Teyvat from the Abyss. Also much of the Fontaine lore call abyssal beasts like Elynas as "Star Beasts", and the Narwhal is literally called "Visitor from the far side of the Sea of Stars".
So yeah, the Abyss is the Cosmos beyond the sky. And people that come from other worlds in the cosmos could be considered "Abyss Dwellers", like Skirk, Surtalogi and Rhinnedotir.
I like this take, make more sense.
Just make abyss run - and you come from down to top - in the end the moon got bigger and so on - that make sense in this case. Than you go to the correct sky not the false sky.
Considering Surtalogi's obsession with "power from beyond" he might be another extremely powerful Khaenri'ahn. Also taking into account that he taught Skirk the way of the sword we can deduce that he might have been part of one of the many Knights Order in Khaenri'ah like Schwanenritter which Marshall Anfortas was the leader of or the Black Serpant Knights which Dainsleif was the leader of. But he is also compared to Rhinedottir so he could very well be part of the Royal Mages of Khaenri'ah.
Also if we really go into crack theory he can be the sinner as Surtr was destined to cause Ragnarok (Doomsday) but was defeated by Thor wielding the power of Odin and banished him to the Sea of Eternal Night. In Genshin's terms, Sutalogi might have been the one to start a war with the Heavenly Principles but the Sustainer wielding the powers of the Primordial One defeated him and banished him to the Abyss.
Wait are the black serpent knights and royal guard confirmed to be the same?
@@GhostEmblemno and yes
@@PelonStar could you elaborate on the yes part. What makes you say yes or partially yes?
@@GhostEmblemthey are related in some way
@@GhostEmblem Dainslief is the captain of the Black Serpents but that particular group was the head of the Royal Guard.
There was likely several groups leading the royal army of Khaenri'ah and the general Royal Guard wer emore similar to militiamen like the Fontaine Garde or the Inazuman Shogunate Samurais.
I am pretty sure Skirk is from Teyvat. She said that she has not surfaced since she was a young girl, I understand it as she saying she is from Teyvat. And they don’t seem do wanna get into Teyvat like you said, they already have the power to go any where and “The Foul” knows things about Teyvat.
At this point IDK what to think, We know that Tayvat has a barrier around it somehow that seals it off. the Sustainer of Heavenly Principles defeated the Primordial One & the 4 Shades. Then used the 3rd descender to make the Ginoses and create the 7 Archons to rule the 7 nations. Then Khaenriah was experimenting with the Abyss creating monsters and through the Abyss both visitors and creatures from outside Tayvat was breaking through the Barrier and entering Tayvat, Then The Sustainer of Heavenly Principles destroys Khaenriah and now we have alot of outside attention being drawn to Tayvat. It seems like the Sustainer want to put a stop to People & Things Entering and leaving Tayvat.
We know in HSR people are aloud to travel from World to World on the Star Rail Express. Expect for Tayvat. So ether because Genshin is a prequel to HSR where the Star Rail Express isn’t been created yet or because Tayvat is not technologically advanced enough to handle other worldly threats. Fontaine is most technologically advanced place in Tayvat, and that is still just “Steampunk Era”. Nothing like the technology we see in HSR.
Surtalogi is a play word on Surtr-Loki. A fusion of Surtr the firy giant demon that would end existence starting by the destruction of Asgard (Realm of the Gods), he is the ruler of the world of Fire (muspelheim) and Loki god of mieschief whom 3 children will anable the start of Ragnarok : Jormungandr the world water serpent that grew so much that he encircled the world and bite his own tail (like Ouroboros), Fenrir aka Fenrisurflr the giant wolf messenger of misfortune and Hel or Hella the goddess of Death who rules the underworld.
So this is pretty big, kinda implies his overall importance.
His title The Foul hint something about Skirk and Ajax. Basically using the Foul Legacy is like utilsing The will/power of Surtalogi.
Verdrfolnir in north myth is NOT the eagle. Actually Verdrfolnir is an awk perched between the 2 eyes of the Giant bird living at the top of Yggdrasil the World tree, perched on the highest branch.
There is many theory on what Verdrfolnir represent. The wisdom of the eagle ? (Like Odin/Irmin with his ravens), a messenger ? (Tho that is already Ratatoskr job) we dont know.
In genshin they are named The Visionary so much like Barbeloth or Nicole they are a prophet/ess, capable of divination, astrology on a worldwide scale
Anyway
Surtalogi The Foul
Verdrfolnir The Visionary
Rhinedottir Gold
Scandinavian names ? Seems like they are Khaenri'han to me but I could be wrong(tho the only scandinavian people in Genshin are all related to Khaenri'ha like
Alberich
Dainsleif
Skirk or Kær
Anyway I love your videos and this one is no exception 🎉🎉
but the word logi itself means fire so i don't think loki is involved there
Surtalogi is directly referenced in the Nibelungenlied; It's specifically the fire Surtr used to burn the world during Ragnarok. Nothing to do with Loki.
It's been clear for a while that names of mythology that have a negative reference are given to Companions. If he is a reference to Surtur, he will likely represent the opposite of the bringer of ragnarok and be trying to prevent it.
While a lot of lore does pertain to Norse mythology, Childe and Skirk are very likely at least somewhat inspired by Irish mythology, Childe is based off of Cú Chulain, with Skirk being based on his master, Scáthach
Yeah, you're on the money with that comment
Skirk jp voice is literally the same as scathach voice in fgo
It's all linked to Norse Mythology because Khaenri'ah is heavily inspired by norse mythology; just as Mondstadt is to Germany, Liyue to China, Inazuma to Japan, etc... Khaenri'ah is most likely Nordic/Norse. The ruins, the names of the black serpent nights and everything else heavily implies Norse mythology.
Skirk looks like Bella from HI 3 and I'm all for it
the one thing i’m rlly looking forward to in the end of the game is how the intermingling of all the factions ends up playing out. we’ve got the archons, fatui, dragons, celestia, hexenzirkle, abyss order, seelies and now surtalogi etc. it’s becoming harder and harder to understand who’s antagonistic and who’s not. the traveller’s choice will be gut wrenchingly hard.
at first i thought celestia would be the big evil bosses but the invasion of this otherwordly narwhal, which itself is the plaything of this otherwordly faction of beings like skirk and surt, means there could deff be an argument to be made about celestia not being as bad as they’ve been presented - well on an intergalactic scale. imagine if celestia and the HP are really just trying to defend teyvat from the higher-order threats, no matter the method?
perspective is key in this game and N opened up that door for us. not only did perspective allow fontaine to be saved by focalors looking beyond fate, but it looks like it will be a HUGE deal going forward. early in the game, our limited perspective made us think the tsaritsa was an antagonist and her plan was probably to fuck over the other gods for whatever reason. over time we’ce realised her plan likely has to do with overhtrowing celestia instead, and now here i am looming over the possibility that celestia has a plan to destroy something else too.
truthfully, i didnt expect skirk to be revealed so soon - as she has been, i genuinely expect us to meet someone from celestia relatively soon - a representative of sorts. i hope at least, cause that would add another piece into this ever-growing puzzle of who the bag guys really are.
or maybe there are no bad guys? or maybe the bad guys are fate itself? or maybe, like the progenitor of hoyo games, the legend of saha does, we can never save the day until teyvat itself is annihilated.
Child training room was the chamber of space and time 🤣
Its now known that her master is one of the sinners.
Childe 's FOULS LEGACY is related to THE FOUL. Wow now i can relate
If Skirk is a valkyrie, she may actually be supposed to be Skuld.
the Cryo archon and the hexenzirkel are plotting to overthrown the Usurper, The second who Came. maybe some character and member of this group are the remnant of the primodial one, the shades.
I don't know why but it's so funny when she threw childe into the portal 😂 like nothing.
When skirk says -A- worlds primordial waters, do you think that that could mean that multiple worlds have primordial waters?
i have a feeling when skirk , alice and other witch banners are coming there will be huge power creep and im okay with that
When I hear "The Foul" I think two things, one, it's got to be one of the Harbingers, and two, may this is where we get the term "Foul Legacy".
Ine thing I realized watching this video is that Skirk is probably named after a Norse being as well. When I looked it up (and specified Norse Mythology), I got two results: Nixies, which are Germanic water spirits, and Skírnir, who's name means "Bright One" and who was a messenger of the god Freyr. The weirdest part is that both cases suggest that Skirk should be male.
Okay so theory/speculation that skirks masters gonna be Otto apocalypse's counterpart cause she (1) shares the same Jp va as Durandal and her master was Otto (2) durandal was a valkyrie just like her (3) at the end Otto managed to become a sort of fake god so maybe that'll reflect on surtalogi?
If they wanted to destroy Teyvat, they probably could have already.
here's what i think....
1. The first Descender is the Primordial One aka Thanes aka the Heavenly Principals aka Paimon (yes... that's not a typo. She did a dendro archon move and lost her memories and became a child).
2. The Sustainer of Heavenly Principals is the 2nd Descender.
3. The Third descender is the exiled Dragon King who returned with powers from outside the world, and was chopped up into the Gnosis after he lost a second time.
yeah I dunno if it's just me , but Fontaine really brought the story back to the front for me. It's completely shattered the existing paradigm and added sooo many new big threads. Shattered almost the entirety of UA-cam genshin theory craft.
The one thing I'm confused about is , all this activity outside of and around the teyvat world seems busier than I assumed
Im thinking it's definitely heading towards so he type of coalition against something but at this pt ? fk if I know lol
It feels like there's a priceless treasure on teyvat or the teyvat itself is the treasure and thats why so many people including beings from other universes are interested in it
also hoyoverse loooovesss to make puns with their characters, so “the foul” (fowl) representing the crow would make sense. love the content keep it up 🫶🫶
my 2 braincell at the mention of valkyrie.. "eeeyy honkai reference pooog"
Surtalogi's power is same as the foul legacy transformation.
So basically it's the will of surtalogi.
@_@ is this surtalogi even alive? I guess not damn.
Skirk said she will ask her master Surtalogi more about the 3rd descender, just to pass the info onto Neuvillette through Childe.
@@masternoob7859well we have seen people being able to communicate with beings that have passed on. Pervases, Rukkadevata,Makoto and so on being examples
@@nothmm8582These are particular and a one time thing while Skirk seems to talk/live with her Master on the daily basis + she said her Master was RAISING the stellavore narwal
I have an outlandish theory. In the Caribart quest, the Primordial refers to himself as a sinner, and creating life without Celestia's permission is a sin in Teyvat. Perhaps he was referring to becoming a sinner after the second one who took the throne. The Hillichurls were praying to him, and they are people of Khaenri'ah. He also possesses an insane power that could restore Caribert's mind. He is linked to the Abyss, which suggests that he might be hiding there beyond Celestia's reach. His power is likely similar to what Skrik called "power from beyond this world," which may have given him enough strength to bring back Caribart's mind.
Its even more interesting, since Hilichurism (and "The Curse of the Wilderness") by the records seems existed way before the Khaenri'ah incident, not to mention being native to Tayvat (with its most nations), and likely directly linked to the Tayvat Curses Systems of Celestia.
The entity we met in the Caribert quest refers to themselves as a 'sinner, but why are you calling them Primordial and saying their sin was to create life? As I understand it, the Primordial One who created humanity doesn't need Celestia's permission to create life. The Primordial One is Celestia's ruler. The Sinner's 'sin' is more likely related to forbidden knowledge than the creation of life.
Also, nobody so far, neither in lore or in in-game, ever said that the Sinner in Caribert was ever the Primordial one. The play right now is to actually get to know who the Sinner is, and why Dainsleif is actually worried that it took notice of the Traveler
skirk, her master and the hexzenzirkle have fucked the power scaling lmao
Traveller has a lot of ascending to do if he wants to beat the heavenly principals
1) Surtalogi is referenced by name in Wagner's Nibelungenlied, and is specifically the flame used by Surtr to burn the world during Ragnarok.
2) Skirk's name is most likely an alternate romanization of Κίρκη, or Circe. Another possibility is that she's a reference to Skuld of Norse mythology, the goddess of the past (along with Verdandi and Urdr, the Norse version of the Greek Fates).
hyrule warriors music at the start of the video 😮
But Dainsleif himself doesn't agree with Khainreah. This means Khainreah is indeed doing a bad thing.
Dainsleif hates Khainreah because they do bad things and need punishment.
Dainsleif hates Celestia because they also punish innocent people.
Dain could be wrong. Don't forgot the curse of Erosion is erasing his memories. So it may be he started out agreeing with Khaenri'ah but centuries of memory loss plus the Nations demonizing Khaenri'ah as the ones who caused the Cataclysm, could have him internalizing the negativity Teyvat has about his homeland and thinking Khaenri'ah was doing something wrong. The curse of Erosion means Dain is incapable of being an reliable source.
That said, even if Khaenri'ah as a whole is more or less innocent, I do think that Gold and any supporters she had were up to something shady. That there were at least someone who were up to no good, whether they were actively malicious or too obsessed with their research to think things through and wound up crossing the line.
dainsleif hate everyone except human and sovereign
Surtalogi, (Nordic pagan here) is the weapon SURTR used to burn away the earth and kill it. So when I heard this name I assumed the person is using the abyss to try and burn away or drown Teyvat in the abyss. It’s not a fire it’s the weapon well the weapon is made of fire so yes it’s a fire but it’s mainly a weapon.
Skirk😍😍😍😋😋😋...all i can say is behind her beautiful appearance will be dangerous and yet powerful character...i hope Hoyoverse make her as a available character to buy...
Quick fun fact if people didn’t know, genshin impact, honkai impact, and honkai star rail are all connected tg but the imaginary tree and we realize this when Welt from honkai impact travels into honkai star rail through a random portal. Hopefully we get a game after all of them ends and the imaginary tree is just something like a toy for the gods that u have to fight
theres only one thing i care about, is she going to be playable?
I bet there would be another descender in the future of the Archon Quests maybe in Khaenri’ah? But it’s not going to be called “Archon Quest” specifically
I kinda always thought that Skirk and Childe were bit like Scathach and Cuchulain, especially the Fate version where Scathach is elevated to this otherwordly being. Training in "Abyss" of sorts. They both even share a sea monster theme, since Cu got his cursed sea monster bone spear from Scat.
'A mysterious and gargantuan creature from another world.
Poets often liken the starry sky to the ocean. They've seen or dreamt of countless bioluminescent plankton floating on a moonless sea, resembling a galaxy, or the moonlight ripped apart by waves on the sea's surface, like shimmering stars. In the most fantastical stories or outrageous lies, the stars found in the depths of the cosmos might be teeming with life, much like Teyvat, and the universe itself is akin to an ocean. Realistically speaking, however, if a profound universe full of life exists, why hasn't any of that life made contact with Teyvat?
Maybe the universe has been constantly trying to infiltrate Teyvat, or maybe a higher power created borders to protect this world.'
quoted from the discription of the all devouring narwhal. this makes me think that when dettore told nahida about the "skys are fake" and stuff the fatui might have the info on who actually is PROTECTING or ISOLATING teyvat from the "sae of stars".. just my little speculation lol
Skirk is Scathach
Childe is Chu
Celeatia = Asgard
Realm of the gods
Monstat = Midgard
Land of the humans and fairy tale first region you get to explore
Leyie = Svartálfaheim
Mainly put this one here because of the chasm and all the forging that comes with ore
Inazuma = Jotunheim
This was the last one that just kinda matched it together, but with it being a realm of chaos and tatarasuna exists as well ass that damn Sakura blessings quest, I think It fits.
Sumeru = Alfheim
Land of fairy's and elf's and other mystical creatures, kinda fits the hole sumeru vibe
Natlan = Muspelheim
Nation of war and pyro vs the land of the fire giants? Not to far off
Snezhnaya = Niflheim
Same as above nation of cryo and the ice giants realm
Abyss = Helhiem
Kinda self explanatory but basically hell
Idk if anyone else thought of this of has spoken about this at all, but I just wanted to share the thoughts I had from this video.
About leviathan, neuvillette's constellation is called leviathan judicator, he's the leviathan
Right away, my friend and I thought and expressed that Skirk looks like an alien taken from Honkai Impact!
Skirk vs Captain? Take my money.
Also the visionary is kinda similar to heidall because he is the god of foresight and stuff but I highly doubt it
What if Skirk was one of 13 Valkyries mentioned in the book "Vera's Melancholy"?
I think will be having more story about child and the narwhal on the next patches
Thumbnail is looking hella fire 👀👀👀
Here is my theory
We are playing genshin impact phase #1
I suspect that phase #2 will be a prequel, it's gonna be about the first decender or primordial one AKA paimon. I suspect we'll play as one of paimon's shades or angels. Either the God of life, death, time or space. And we'll fight the Elemental Dragons from the primordial age, and we'll witness paimon being dethroned by the unknown God.
Genshin impact Phase #3
I suspect we'll understand more about were the decenders actually come from, and I suspect the witches know the answer cause they are astrologists, they deal with things in outer space. So I suspect our key powers there would be celestial Energy and abbysal energy. Which will link us to hokai impact.
I’m still hung up on her statement about beating the whale not using any “power from beyond this world”
Well we do know rhine. Or R, the creator of albedo. She's called gold. Rhine comes from rhinemaidens from norse mythology, aka the three water nymphs. And guess what: they protected the rhine gold, which could be stolen by saying no to love. They have many stories, but u know one guy who tried to steal that gold? Alberich. And... do u know how these water nymphs are also called? Oceanids. In greek mythos
She is the one who will connect honkai impact with genshin
11:56 so real i NEED her to be playable 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Albedo's clone has a vision. Does that mean there are many ways to bypass the acquisition of visions or could it be things in teyvat has already occurred and one can take a character out from the scene and go back at a certain point in time. Hence why we see a clone.
..But Skirks master is Rhinedottr, it was clearly said that Albedo's creator is skirks master. Along with that, with the context that Rhinedottr release the riftwolves and the golden wolflord into teyvat, it makes sense that Rhinedottr has the whale as a pet.
No... Here's is the exact lines from the scene:
Skirk: Still nothing? Well, how about "The Visionary," Vedrfolnir then? Or "Gold," Rhinedottir?
Paimon: Ooh, that one we've heard! Rhinedottir's part of the Hexenzirkel - she's Albedo's mom, right?
Skirk: Ah, so you do know that name. To be honest, I also heard all of those names and titles from my Master.
Skirk: But I suppose you understand now, yes? - they are both "pursuing some form of perfection."
Rhinedottr was an analogy to her master, not the same person. Since the traveler didnt know who skirk was talking about, they needed someone to compare them to so skirk choose rhinedottr
The Chinese titles of all 3 skirk mentioned are
Foul "the evil knight/dark knight" (depends on your understanding)
Gold "the breeder"
Vidrfolnir "the prophet"
Also you said sustainer is not a good person tbf sustainer work is not to sit and see how the world is going to be destroyed sustainer is the one who sustaine the heavenly order this is the same order that primordial one established as the gnosis were given to archons
The previous order has been malfunctioning if u interpret neuvillette about vision lines the past order has been running wild for a long time and therefore no indications as if it has came in control again
According to nahida heavenly principles is the overseeing the matters of teyvat not primordial one
"The sustainer is dying the master of heaven has yet to arrive" now this line makes more sense as if primordial one is missing/have gone somewhere or is doing something (most likely trying to stop the world's resentment,loathing from going out of control
Note: the plot of 7 nations is to make celestia looks like an enemy while celestia have done nothing wrong but stopping people from creating humans clones and when civilizations were almost destroyed teyvat
Teyvat is already in a pinch after the war of vengeance and pierro talking about destroying the old world as if he wants to establish a new order
Jakob says the pheasants have no right to sit on throne just like this world
Dainsleif says the throne in the sky is not for you
But in the midst of everything the momento quest item whale drops says the new shining star and darkness cornering the world hinting towards the fate of twins
I have a question , why skirk made childe her disciple among all people of Teyvat ?
He was chased by wolves and bears, and while running for his life the earth opened up beneath him , he fell into the abyss
Who is Childe exactly ..
And why is he very similar to Surtalogi , are they related ?
Maybe the stories his father told him about the adventurer were surtalogi's
That's the question Fontain quets left in my head
I realy love skirk design
Did anyone else notice that skirk has a fin on her back?
Here in fontainian people fighting for their life. And here Some otherworlders playing game and having whale as a pet.
Children deserves another story wurst after this
If Skirk and her master, and the witches are not from this world then like Traveler, they all are "Descenders", right? Even the Narwhale is a descender.
the fowl is what we get when killing timie's birdies 💀
Sustainer keeps getting bad mouthed. Poor Queen can’t catch a break.
Maybe teyvat is a cosmic chessboard and the traveler is a rogue peice that doesn't belong on the board?
Skirk, Gold, Alice and other powerful witch might be trying to protect Teyvet's border from the Abyss realm and beyond. Surtalogi might be their leader like Shadow to the 7 shade in Eminence in the Shadows. Surtalogic might also be Klee's father. This is just my theory any way. I mean if this proves to be true Surtalogi might be our main harem protagonist.
Edit: This comment is meant to be a joke so don't feel offended.
The foul i thinks its more like Loki, loki had 3 monster children ,hel, fenrir and jormungand, jourmungand was described has a jiant snake or worm that dwell in the world sea sounds oddly familiar, since in norse mythology there was no whale monster including leviathan(this one is from the bible not norse originally), but mosts sea monsters were whale or sea serpent also jormungand its a foody serpent that wants to eat all to the point that it bites its own tail.
Why do I have this stupid idea that genshin impact is a VR game in HSR and the game is locked like sword art online and the player can’t get out.
The abyss is the area between reality and virtual reality and is stopping and interference between the 2.
All I know is skirk will take all my primos if needed currently have 408 fates saved with 8k primos
I suspect she'll be made playable.... in HSR.
I like how she thew childe in the vortex like....get away from me heathen 😂😂😂😂
Skirk, the Hoyo version of Scatach and (or) Skuld or other Valkery.
I think surtoligi might be a Herscher
when u say childe is powerful, I keep rolling under my table
the assumption that khaenri'ah was attacking the other nations is false. They were likewise trying to beat back monsters of the abyss, and its those abyss monsters that took down the archons. overall good video tho
I bet almost all of you click the video Bacause of the thumbnail
So what we just met is kyogre 🗿 we still need to find the other two right? ,🗿