They should have bought stardust plug-in, updated it a bit, and made it native. Or simply made a plug-in that is a web browser window that runs Spline 3D… which is far faster than this awful old slow ugly 3D implementation…. What are we paying for exactly?
I have a question, i would like a video with the same content but with a window with performance, how much processor and memory it is using, why here on my machine it always consumes everything it has, it remains at 99% processor and 99% memory when I open 3d within after. Thanks very much, nice video!
Man, thank you for donating your time to share knowledge, you are a friend. That said, I have to say that AE is a bad joke when we talk about 3D. In the middle of 2024 and importing OBJ and HDRI is something new in AE? E3D has been doing this for years and even though it is outdated, it manages to be better than AE. When you use any other 3D Software, you notice that AE is lagging behind 3D. The correct thing is for Adobe to create 3D manipulation software from scratch, modern, running in GPU, with AI tools, and import some post-production tools from AE such as tracking, rotoscopy, shape layers and visual effects. Inserting 3D tools in after, which is old and runs on slow CPU previews, is a mistake in my opinion. Much wasted and little result.
Thanks for the comment. I agree with what you're saying. This is just version 1 of 3D native experience in Ae. I can only assume it will get better. You should definitely voice your great advice on the beta forum. I know Adobe is listening. I'll just mention that Ae is not a 3D app and Adobe is trying to catch up and has a long way to go. It also has 30 years of bad luck when it comes to 3D (look at 3D in Photoshop for example). So, one can only hope that (with the Substance technology) they will make the necessary adjustments and make it more efficient, modern and faster. As the song says: The road is long (a long, long road)
My only wish for AE 3D is that they stopped distorting the XYZ axis tool when at the edge of the cameras perspective. Like why can't it just be normal always?
Totally agree, you can workaround this by creating your own camera without distortion and use it instead of the custom ones. That's actually a great short tip tutorial idea, so watch this space....
Thưa ngài tôi có laptop với cpu amd 7735hs + 4050 khi preview nó chỉ sử dụng dưới 20%gpu và cpu cũng chỉ sử dụng 75 đến 80% điều đó là bình thường hay tôi đã setting sai cách 😢
@@tfarfolini9742 I personally don’t feel like they have too much current direct competition but there are programs that do everything it does better in certain categories. For example Nuke is better for compositing as far as I’ve heard. Rive or Cavalry is better for vector animation. Moho or similar is better for 2d character rigging. The thing is that AE though it’s not as good as all of those programs for what they do, AE has all that stuff wrapped up in one package and it works well with other adobe apps. People are pretty eager to try out Avalanche in Unreal which is going to be motion graphics inside a legit 3d engine. Anyhow, this is my understanding of it all.
@@danfilipradu well for compositing Nuke is no doubt better, if the fact that it’s a Hollywood industry standard says anything. In regard to motion graphics it seems that Rive and Cavalry are making waves. Outside of that the upcoming Avalanche in Unreal looks really promising. AE’s strength and weakness is that it does it all but everything it does it’s just ok at.
I created effects in After Effects for 15 years until I finally moved to Fusion. AE is terribly slow, especially with EXR, and buggy. Fusion costs much less and it also includes Resolve, which also replaces Premiere Pro. In fusion I have plugins that are paid for AE or are not available at all. It's great that AE is still developing, but the best idea would be to throw everything in the trash and start over. Of course it should also cost much less...
Really? This isn't even a catch up to the most basic of features in Element3D yet. I'm happy that they are finally starting to implement 3D (15 years too late), but to release it in such a featureless way is so embarrassing. They should have waited until they could at least release it with some close to modern features. This would barely fly in 2010 as a feature release. I don't even know what I would use 3D in this state for.
@@michaelritchie888 We still need to consider whether it will read multichannel EXR files containing multiple render passes. I was unsure if this version does this natively. (Something Nuke has done since he was born)
Ok guys, I know that the gentleman wants to make a video and explain the update, but truth be told, he has very little material to talk about because there's nothing new. Obj import is supposed to be a revolution in 2024? When AE has neglected it's 3d space for decades. Is as much as an improvement as native mp4 export 🤣🤣🤣. Btw, if you are waiting for AE to get into 3D you need to rethink your career.
Let me fix Adobe's press release on this.... "The new 24.2 version of After Effects will import SOME materials not ALL materials so good luck!" It still won't import glass and other materials even from it's own Substance 3D suite. The fun part is you can import your scene and see if you win the materials lottery!
These are very controversial innovations. It cannot be perceived as a full-fledged 3D, but it's a good way for children to play... It's not even up to Element 3D, and it was created more than 10 years ago.
I always try to find the child in me and have some fun. I'm sure it will improve in the future, this is v1 of the 3D engine. The beta already offers more options. Thanks for the comment!
@SternFX This is not a reproach to you. I wanted to say that there are many more necessary things in AE than 3D, tracking, robot brushes, removetool...
First of all, I really like your tutorials on LinkedIn and this channel. Do you have a tutorial here or on Linkedin Learning, which is about the use of the camera/3D camera in AE. As I would like to get better in that part of AE. Thank you.
Thanks for the warm feedback :-) There are many tips for Camera animation in the videos on this playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLvsD3COCWbkphAtZ8h9Bu4sMsXGt0z_38.html&si=fH6GGECfLShiysMw
Are there any performance differences that would make you choose to use obj models instead of glb? Or the other way around? Just curious... I model my own objects, so I could export in either format.
Adobe Premiere 2024 has bugs. They are mainly associated with the Program Monitor window 1) It is not possible to select several mask points at once in the Program Monitor window using a rectangular selection with the mouse. 2) In the Program Monitor window, when you change the transformation Scale, Position, Rotation, Anchor point... with the mouse, the movements lag a lot and slow down, which is very annoying. 3) Key frames on the Adjustment Layer do not work and animation does not occur. The animation takes on the static value of one of the keyframes. This is especially true with third-party plugins
Thank you for the information! Do you think this is a good quality for 2024? I don't know how to deliver such a schedule to the customer)) Kramer offered us an excellent solution for 3D in AE about 15 years ago. It would be better if they solved the problem with optimizing the program, because even on 128 GB of RAM it is hard to work. There is not enough and everything slows down.
Yes, If you use a high settings the quality is good enough, but it can be slow. E3D plugin is faster and in most cases render a better image. However I'm certain the Advanced 3D Render engine will improve over time and I'm glad to see that Adobe is investing in it.
Is ae 2024 support file from cinema4d 2023?.because when I'm using c4d 2023, Ae 2022 can't support file from c4d 23,and I need to upgrade ae cc 22 to 23 to make integration between c4d 2023 and ae 23 smooth and readable
Thanks for the review. I've exported from Blender an obj file with two materials. The model has a black outline made via the solidify modifier and Backface Culling enabled. However when I import this model into AE the entire model is solid black, rather than just an outline. Do you know how to fix this issue? Thanks!
Hi, is it possible to add a shadow catcher to subtitles to use them for example in tracking in the new 3d engine ? I haven't seen such a tutorial anywhere, after AE update
You can use EXR multi-pass files for compositing (there's a tutorial on my channel that go through that). This uses EXR for another purpose as an IBL file.
Unreal engine with multiple meshes, procedural effects landscape, complex lighting, textures : 144 FPS Realtime After effects with one footage and one effect : 0.5 FPS Realtime
AE 24.0.0 till 24.1 is the most unstable and buggiest AE update ever. Crashing and UI glitching everywhere. This latest version seems to fix it. I hope...
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They should have bought stardust plug-in, updated it a bit, and made it native. Or simply made a plug-in that is a web browser window that runs Spline 3D… which is far faster than this awful old slow ugly 3D implementation…. What are we paying for exactly?
You can make all of this in Blender, and it’s free open source.
I have a question, i would like a video with the same content but with a window with performance, how much processor and memory it is using, why here on my machine it always consumes everything it has, it remains at 99% processor and 99% memory when I open 3d within after.
Thanks very much, nice video!
There is already a bar on each layer telling you how long it takes to calculate, toggle it on.
I wonder if the rendering with HDR/EXR lighting is faster with Nvidia RTX GPUs. Because what you get here is horrible in terms of speed.
It should be faster but not realtime
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Man, thank you for donating your time to share knowledge, you are a friend. That said, I have to say that AE is a bad joke when we talk about 3D. In the middle of 2024 and importing OBJ and HDRI is something new in AE? E3D has been doing this for years and even though it is outdated, it manages to be better than AE.
When you use any other 3D Software, you notice that AE is lagging behind 3D. The correct thing is for Adobe to create 3D manipulation software from scratch, modern, running in GPU, with AI tools, and import some post-production tools from AE such as tracking, rotoscopy, shape layers and visual effects.
Inserting 3D tools in after, which is old and runs on slow CPU previews, is a mistake in my opinion. Much wasted and little result.
Thanks for the comment. I agree with what you're saying. This is just version 1 of 3D native experience in Ae. I can only assume it will get better. You should definitely voice your great advice on the beta forum. I know Adobe is listening.
I'll just mention that Ae is not a 3D app and Adobe is trying to catch up and has a long way to go. It also has 30 years of bad luck when it comes to 3D (look at 3D in Photoshop for example). So, one can only hope that (with the Substance technology) they will make the necessary adjustments and make it more efficient, modern and faster.
As the song says: The road is long (a long, long road)
My only wish for AE 3D is that they stopped distorting the XYZ axis tool when at the edge of the cameras perspective. Like why can't it just be normal always?
Totally agree, you can workaround this by creating your own camera without distortion and use it instead of the custom ones. That's actually a great short tip tutorial idea, so watch this space....
5:46 the early 2000’s called and asked for their 3D graphics back….
haha, that was on purpose. But noted and will try to improve in the future. Thanks!
Thưa ngài tôi có laptop với cpu amd 7735hs + 4050 khi preview nó chỉ sử dụng dưới 20%gpu và cpu cũng chỉ sử dụng 75 đến 80% điều đó là bình thường hay tôi đã setting sai cách 😢
Sorry to hear that it doesn't work as expected, I suggest to open a support ticket with Adobe.
It's a shame that after effects has fallen behind the competition, these "new releases" should have come out 10 years ago
What is AE's competition?
@@tfarfolini9742 I personally don’t feel like they have too much current direct competition but there are programs that do everything it does better in certain categories. For example Nuke is better for compositing as far as I’ve heard. Rive or Cavalry is better for vector animation. Moho or similar is better for 2d character rigging.
The thing is that AE though it’s not as good as all of those programs for what they do, AE has all that stuff wrapped up in one package and it works well with other adobe apps.
People are pretty eager to try out Avalanche in Unreal which is going to be motion graphics inside a legit 3d engine.
Anyhow, this is my understanding of it all.
@csnzlatino - agree - but what is the AE's competition ? pls don't say Nuke
@@danfilipradu well for compositing Nuke is no doubt better, if the fact that it’s a Hollywood industry standard says anything. In regard to motion graphics it seems that Rive and Cavalry are making waves. Outside of that the upcoming Avalanche in Unreal looks really promising.
AE’s strength and weakness is that it does it all but everything it does it’s just ok at.
@@galaga00 after effects engine is beyond slow it sits on a very old un-updated architecture.... on these days video cards should be real time
I created effects in After Effects for 15 years until I finally moved to Fusion. AE is terribly slow, especially with EXR, and buggy. Fusion costs much less and it also includes Resolve, which also replaces Premiere Pro. In fusion I have plugins that are paid for AE or are not available at all. It's great that AE is still developing, but the best idea would be to throw everything in the trash and start over. Of course it should also cost much less...
congrats, they've finally caught up to fusion and nuke after 20 years.
Really? This isn't even a catch up to the most basic of features in Element3D yet. I'm happy that they are finally starting to implement 3D (15 years too late), but to release it in such a featureless way is so embarrassing. They should have waited until they could at least release it with some close to modern features. This would barely fly in 2010 as a feature release. I don't even know what I would use 3D in this state for.
@@michaelritchie888 was thinking the same thing, this is 2001 Spy Kids level 3D
@@michaelritchie888 We still need to consider whether it will read multichannel EXR files containing multiple render passes.
I was unsure if this version does this natively.
(Something Nuke has done since he was born)
so stupid update as always
Adobe has never implemented 3D well. I don’t think that’s going to change.
As a Blender user this is laughable.
a good laugh is important for a successful day
One of these days I'm still hoping Adobe will let us see wtf is outside the comp area. My god add it already.
it's already there since 2022, just enable the extended viewer. Have a look here: ua-cam.com/video/caCngS_6Yu4/v-deo.html
Короче, ничего интересного и нужного не появилось.
Thanks
Nothing, adobe has added nothing of value. And it took you 16 minutes to say nothing
Thanks for the lovely comment
If you have a beef with Adobe, that’s fine. But don’t take it out on people trying to teach us and keep us up to date.
Exactly don't be upset because Adobe doesn't work for you 😊. I love After Effects and every update that's been put out
Added nothing….. 1st feature: you can natively import .OBJs, that’s a huge update. Do you even edit bro?
Ok guys, I know that the gentleman wants to make a video and explain the update, but truth be told, he has very little material to talk about because there's nothing new. Obj import is supposed to be a revolution in 2024? When AE has neglected it's 3d space for decades. Is as much as an improvement as native mp4 export 🤣🤣🤣.
Btw, if you are waiting for AE to get into 3D you need to rethink your career.
i have card Quadro k4200, after effect 2024 not Enable GPU Acceleration. Please, Help me!
You should contact Adobe support (it's included with your membership) they will be able to help you remotely. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Hmm it doesnt look even a bit as good as Element3D.. obj? Srsly? Where is Allembic or at least fbx? Adobe did nothing special here.. its ridicoulus
Agreed, this is not E3D level. But it's a move in the right direction. Thanks for watching!
Let me fix Adobe's press release on this.... "The new 24.2 version of After Effects will import SOME materials not ALL materials so good luck!" It still won't import glass and other materials even from it's own Substance 3D suite. The fun part is you can import your scene and see if you win the materials lottery!
Thanks for the effort! let's hope they are reading this comment and will fix it in the future.
Nothing new but I am sure now AE needs INTEL i88 to run and 1TB Ram
Thank you, Eran! Impressive updates, especially the CC plugins. Is it possible to edit the external texture file after importing the obj file?
Thanks Michael! CC Ball action has tons of potential.
Yes, you can edit the external texture after importing and it should update automatically.
Waiting for Alembic support
Its really helpful information
Glad to hear that
Thanks for the info brother! Good luck with the channel! 🙏
Thank you too!
These are very controversial innovations. It cannot be perceived as a full-fledged 3D, but it's a good way for children to play... It's not even up to Element 3D, and it was created more than 10 years ago.
I always try to find the child in me and have some fun. I'm sure it will improve in the future, this is v1 of the 3D engine. The beta already offers more options. Thanks for the comment!
@SternFX This is not a reproach to you. I wanted to say that there are many more necessary things in AE than 3D, tracking, robot brushes, removetool...
First of all, I really like your tutorials on LinkedIn and this channel. Do you have a tutorial here or on Linkedin Learning, which is about the use of the camera/3D camera in AE. As I would like to get better in that part of AE. Thank you.
Thanks for the warm feedback :-) There are many tips for Camera animation in the videos on this playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLvsD3COCWbkphAtZ8h9Bu4sMsXGt0z_38.html&si=fH6GGECfLShiysMw
Are there any performance differences that would make you choose to use obj models instead of glb? Or the other way around? Just curious... I model my own objects, so I could export in either format.
No noticeable speed difference, I rather use GLB as it's easy to manage
Bro, are you an ai? Cause you move weirdly-_-
Yes I am the T1000 from 2029 to be accurate.
Great overview!!Thank you :)
My pleasure!
Adobe Premiere 2024 has bugs. They are mainly associated with the Program Monitor window
1) It is not possible to select several mask points at once in the Program Monitor window using a rectangular selection with the mouse.
2) In the Program Monitor window, when you change the transformation Scale, Position, Rotation, Anchor point... with the mouse, the movements lag a lot and slow down, which is very annoying.
3) Key frames on the Adjustment Layer do not work and animation does not occur. The animation takes on the static value of one of the keyframes. This is especially true with third-party plugins
Thanks for the feedback. Consider notifying Adobe www.adobe.com/products/wishform.html
Thank you for the information! Do you think this is a good quality for 2024? I don't know how to deliver such a schedule to the customer)) Kramer offered us an excellent solution for 3D in AE about 15 years ago. It would be better if they solved the problem with optimizing the program, because even on 128 GB of RAM it is hard to work. There is not enough and everything slows down.
Yes, If you use a high settings the quality is good enough, but it can be slow. E3D plugin is faster and in most cases render a better image. However I'm certain the Advanced 3D Render engine will improve over time and I'm glad to see that Adobe is investing in it.
But can I actually import an animated .obj in AE? Or do we still need E3D for that? Thank you
As I mentioned in tutorial, currently not. But this may change in the future
thanks bro , great as always
Always welcome
Is ae 2024 support file from cinema4d 2023?.because when I'm using c4d 2023, Ae 2022 can't support file from c4d 23,and I need to upgrade ae cc 22 to 23 to make integration between c4d 2023 and ae 23 smooth and readable
yes, the CINEWARE effect was updated and it works as expected. Read more here: helpx.adobe.com/uk/after-effects/kb/fixed-issues.html
Why can’t I use the 3D objects I created in Illustrator I After Effects? Am I doing something wrong?
You can. Just export them as GLTF or OBJ using the assets panel.
I will cover it in another video soon.
Thanks for the review. I've exported from Blender an obj file with two materials. The model has a black outline made via the solidify modifier and Backface Culling enabled. However when I import this model into AE the entire model is solid black, rather than just an outline. Do you know how to fix this issue? Thanks!
Sorry I don't but you can open a ticket with adobe or ask in the beta forum. Thanks for the comment!
But this in after effects beta ??
Because i don't have beta and don't work 3d
this video is about the official 24.2 release, the beta has additional new stuff.
@SternFX thank you
I have this new 24.2
But when I try to use 3d obji only a box empty not showing the obj
@@wansharisI suggest to open a support ticket with Adobe
Hi, is it possible to add a shadow catcher to subtitles to use them for example in tracking in the new 3d engine ?
I haven't seen such a tutorial anywhere, after AE update
Sure, watch this tutorial: ua-cam.com/video/LAmyH1WaXqc/v-deo.htmlsi=QFe1LqGiXSFpDJvm
im still in shock that they havent implemented animated fbx support yet, Element3d by video copilot is in dire need of a major update as well.
I hope FBX will be supported in the future, and I agree about E3D but I also think the future for it is very bright.
Thanks for this pro review!
My pleasure!
Great video!
Thanks!
this AI audio treatment is too weird. you voice is not that deep. looks like batman talking.
its even out of sync.
It's not AI treated. I'll change my eq settings. Thanks!
Hello please say what macbook you use ? maybe m3 pro 32ram ?
I'm using Mac Studio M1 Ultra 64ram
thanks@@SternFX
Needs more AI features
Regarding EXR files, I don't understand if AE will read it natively when it is EXR multichannel. (all passes of a 3D render)
You can use EXR multi-pass files for compositing (there's a tutorial on my channel that go through that). This uses EXR for another purpose as an IBL file.
Would be great if Adobe focused on smooth playback of multichannel EXR. Had comping project files that take 10-20 seconds to preview a single frame.
Agreed@@ryanelliott197
performance of that 3d grid is just atrocious
There's always room for improvement
Amazing! Thank you for the tutorial
My pleasure!
אחלה 👍
מה נותן השיפט יחד עם הפיק וויפ?
It jumps the layer to the null position, instead of copy the position of the null to the (child) layer
@@SternFX תודה!
Unreal engine with multiple meshes, procedural effects landscape, complex lighting, textures : 144 FPS Realtime
After effects with one footage and one effect : 0.5 FPS Realtime
Thanks for the comparison
AE 24.0.0 till 24.1 is the most unstable and buggiest AE update ever. Crashing and UI glitching everywhere. This latest version seems to fix it. I hope...
Let's hope so
This is what we pay Adobe for.... so over it.