Video Games That Stole Their Music

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  • Опубліковано 17 тра 2023
  • Who knew theft could be so easy? Today we talk about Video Game music and the many types of 'inspirations' composers have taken. It's easy to call something stolen, but what actually qualifies as plagarism? That's what we'll be looking at today!
    find me live over on @alsoalax
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    thank you to ditchu for the wonderful thumbnail art!
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    resources:
    thomas game docs - • The Pop song that Nint...
    the dpad on mj in sonic 3 - • A Brief History of Mic...
    mother series plagarized - • All Known Musical Refe...
    whole article on a ton - www.gamesradar.com/soundtrack...
    the rest were made popular on tiktok/twitter so i can't remember where i first saw them sorre
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  • @paperpopper2586
    @paperpopper2586 Рік тому +6460

    One of my worst fears is (eventually) making a song then finding out i unconsciously copied a melody or something from an existing song

    • @BinglesP
      @BinglesP Рік тому +543

      SAME SO MUCH especially people not believing it's a coincidence

    • @klaibefhuoaiuwehjklbdfsnxnik
      @klaibefhuoaiuwehjklbdfsnxnik Рік тому +465

      Fun fact: Every day you're slightly more likely to copy something, as new things are made every day.

    • @FuranA7x
      @FuranA7x Рік тому +323

      Seriously, don't worry about it. That's how music is created. No one "invented" anything. Unless you recreate the exact same song (melody, rythm, harmony, etc), you are making new music like every other human ever. People that say you are "copying" music because your song resemble another is simply ignorant on the topic.

    • @Blanktester685
      @Blanktester685 Рік тому +40

      @@FuranA7x someone had to have invented it at some point in history.

    • @FuranA7x
      @FuranA7x Рік тому +103

      @@Blanktester685 Yes, but even if you create a "similar" song, you are creating something new.

  • @TimesChu
    @TimesChu Рік тому +1661

    Let's be real: the idea that a chord progression or basic rhythm can be "stolen" is an invention of record labels who would copyright whole instruments if they could.

    • @Barakon
      @Barakon Рік тому +1

      Or basically, COPYRIGHT IS A BITCH

    • @justsomewheel9379
      @justsomewheel9379 Рік тому +144

      Eventually we're gonna run out of cord progressions and every new song will be copyright striked
      Brands have already copyrighted literal colours so the copyright industry is clearly doomed

    • @yeildishere
      @yeildishere Рік тому +83

      ​@@justsomewheel9379honestly it just shows that copyright in it's current form need sto be scaled back a fuck ton to avoid this kinda shit from happening and preventing the greedy masters of entertainment from hogging everything to themselves

    • @MrGamelover23
      @MrGamelover23 Рік тому

      And that's why the Marvin Gaye estate should kill themselves.

    • @dannickfausse3312
      @dannickfausse3312 Рік тому +17

      @@justsomewheel9379That’s just not true though, there’s so much more that goes into making a song than just the chord progression and besides even if you have the same progression your song can still sound completely different

  • @aritherecluse2927
    @aritherecluse2927 Рік тому +307

    Japanese city pop being the inspiration for the songs I grew up with explains why I get "nostalgia I never had" from them, being not alive when those songs came out

    • @Johnnybomb1
      @Johnnybomb1 4 місяці тому +2

      Yeah, as it turns out, most of these "genius" Japanese video games composers of the 80s and 90s, heavily plagiarized popular Japanese songs at the time, in addition to West Pop, Funk, Jazz, etc...

    • @Blitz_Spencer
      @Blitz_Spencer 3 місяці тому +6

      @@Johnnybomb1heavily inspired =/= plagiarized

  • @brisayman
    @brisayman Рік тому +76

    The fact is, you can’t base a plagiarism argument on three notes, a popular cord progression nor a common drum beat. Artist don’t create out of nothing, we have influences and the creation process usually come down to mixing multiple already existing ideas and influence to create something fresher. Thanks for having a nuanced opinion 🙏

  • @brebeaa
    @brebeaa Рік тому +1393

    As an illustrator, I can relate. Artists take the best bits of things we love from other artists and turn them into ingredients for our own art. Hopefully, with enough ingredients from enough sources we can create a fresh dish, with hints of what made it, but having a taste all its own. That’s all of art in a nutshell.

    • @killmii8473
      @killmii8473 Рік тому +29

      ​@Don't Read My Profile Picture ok

    • @SuspiciousScout
      @SuspiciousScout Рік тому +57

      Definitely. Nothing people create is ever truly, wholly "original". We all take inspiration from something, and that's the whole point, to then meld it into something of your own creation.

    • @beanoptodon
      @beanoptodon Рік тому +9

      ​@Don't Read My Profile Picture okay, I won't. Thanks for warning me to not look at your account.

    • @cheesyanimationstudios6023
      @cheesyanimationstudios6023 Рік тому +7

      Once I made a character that looks too much like Bill cipher, because he had giant eyes and literally had powers to end the universe

    • @brebeaa
      @brebeaa Рік тому +15

      @@cheesyanimationstudios6023 I once made a character that had black hair with red streaks, and a long lost love named Maria. It took my friend pointing out that I had just created a human Shadow the Hedgehog for me to realize what I had done! 😂

  • @jebdeb5181
    @jebdeb5181 Рік тому +1164

    I’m just loving the reoccurring gag of alax entering the room in different weird ass ways everytime.

    • @HDGamerofficial
      @HDGamerofficial Рік тому +47

      I do love that too but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t miss:
      WOW WAHOO GUH-HUH HOO HA HOO HUH COME ON BEEUTCH ITS SONIC SPEED

    • @Hugo-yz1vb
      @Hugo-yz1vb Рік тому +10

      ​@@HDGamerofficial IT'S SONIC SPEED solos

    • @user-eh2vi6lk7n
      @user-eh2vi6lk7n Рік тому +1

      In this one it seems like just an hawaian shirt...
      Not a direct reference to something.

    • @criticalhit07
      @criticalhit07 Рік тому +1

      ​@@user-eh2vi6lk7n it was instant transmission

  • @lux3239
    @lux3239 Рік тому +94

    Honestly, I think its cool that there is so much video game music that is "stolen" from real world songs. In a way, its just a neat little reminder that everything we make intentionally or not is still inspired by our surroundings. I just think thats neat.

  • @Ninjacat25
    @Ninjacat25 Рік тому +186

    Y'know, game music taking heavy inspiration from other tunes, can kind of feel like a cool little easter egg and perhaps even give some insight into the composer's music taste.

  • @Yuti640
    @Yuti640 Рік тому +794

    I love it when people reference old YTPs

    • @BinglesP
      @BinglesP Рік тому +35

      Same!!!
      I quote cs188, DaThings, and even my own YTPs way too often irl

    • @wezerd
      @wezerd Рік тому +17

      my boy

    • @Beanman745
      @Beanman745 Рік тому +15

      All toasters toast toast

    • @clamdeity
      @clamdeity Рік тому +23

      ive gotten saying "die" in a CDI ganon voice down to a science

    • @Sophilautia
      @Sophilautia Рік тому +2

      I feel like it's a common language that instantly connects so many of us lmao

  • @_clout
    @_clout Рік тому +364

    i love how ever since he found that clip of dk falling off the minecart and posted it on twitter he’s had it in every video since his return

  • @cardinalhamneggs5253
    @cardinalhamneggs5253 Рік тому +96

    _Super Mario World’s_ copying of “Green, Green” was unintentional, and Koji Kondo wasn’t aware he was doing it until after the fact.

    • @uh3610
      @uh3610 9 місяців тому +1

      @@harrybest2041use the * symbol

    • @jan_Eten
      @jan_Eten 8 місяців тому +1

      yeah i know

    • @frkm3rt708
      @frkm3rt708 8 місяців тому

      Instead of green green

    • @williamshakespeare8723
      @williamshakespeare8723 7 місяців тому

      Bullshit, given the fact that others were also stolen how can this be not, I think all were stolen intentionally. How are you gonna defend the other songs of mario, huh?

  • @MONSTAboyGaming
    @MONSTAboyGaming Рік тому +46

    Finding out the entire sonic 1 soundtrack was a whole bunch of songs I didn’t know was heartbreaking to me

    • @caucasoidape8838
      @caucasoidape8838 Рік тому +2

      He skipped the regular boss, Scrap Brain Zone, and special stage music.

    • @MONSTAboyGaming
      @MONSTAboyGaming 10 місяців тому +4

      @@caucasoidape8838oh also green hill zone, game over, zone clear, title, ending, & credits. But otherwise…

    • @ironmaster6496
      @ironmaster6496 10 місяців тому +5

      I feel you buddy, i'm honestly really depressed right now because I found the same about another franchise I really love

    • @Diogo85
      @Diogo85 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@caucasoidape8838Scrap Brain Zone sounds similar to the Blade Runner end titles by Vangelis.

    • @jan_Eten
      @jan_Eten 8 місяців тому +2

      I clicked because Sonic being a Smooth Criminal.

  • @Murnjendoof_too
    @Murnjendoof_too Рік тому +731

    I am shocked, SHOCKED, that despite having Spamton in the thumbnail, you didn't mention that the main beat for NOW'S YOUR CHANCE TO BE A is virtually identical to the one seen in the Vile/Sigma Fortress Boss theme from Megaman X.

    • @picante403
      @picante403 Рік тому +13

      I second this

    • @FirstnameLastname-sb3hj
      @FirstnameLastname-sb3hj Рік тому +18

      [Big Shot!]

    • @Ablayw
      @Ablayw Рік тому +64

      Ironically Spamton in the thumbnail catched my attention first to click this video

    • @caucasoidape8838
      @caucasoidape8838 Рік тому +17

      The Devil boss music in Cuphead is inspired by the Sigma fight in Mega Man X.

    • @camera2178
      @camera2178 Рік тому +13

      Similar segment of the song, but not enough to be a full copy.

  • @justcallmezudo
    @justcallmezudo Рік тому +575

    I always like it when you talk about video game music or music in general in the channel, even if I comprehend nothing about music, the video still feels very informational while keeping the comedy top notch

  • @Hal_142
    @Hal_142 Рік тому +71

    for the sonic 1 stuff. I remember hearing the composer was a pop musician and he liked adding a pop style opening to the songs. which is why they sound like that and why the sonic soundtrack is so memorable.

    • @caucasoidape8838
      @caucasoidape8838 Рік тому +7

      I prefer Sonic 1 and 2 music over what came later.

    • @MayomeSanz
      @MayomeSanz Рік тому +6

      @@caucasoidape8838 you clearly have never heard the Sonic 3k ost

    • @Outta-hz1ej
      @Outta-hz1ej 11 місяців тому +11

      Dreams Come True was a popular J-pop band and they did the soundtrack for Sonic 1 and 2. Green Hill Zone was based on one of their songs called Sweet Sweet Sweet.

  • @remix7345
    @remix7345 Рік тому +15

    12:16 to be fair every rockabilly song in a video game sounds like this

  • @Modtro64
    @Modtro64 Рік тому +254

    I love this sort of musical nonsense. Its so cool seeing songs that define so many fun memories and there are the cases where it's blantant plagarism, but the others feel more like these composers are putting bits of the music they grew up with, into these games and giving them a new sort of identity and something future generations can take inspiration from.

  • @tylerhurst1046
    @tylerhurst1046 Рік тому +173

    The clip of DK falling never fails to get a laugh out of me no matter how many times I see it

  • @ProjectFrenzy
    @ProjectFrenzy Рік тому +38

    It's so cool to me that the actual main drum groove from the original Knuckles theme is hidden inside the final version of Blood On The Dancefloor, in the chorus. It's used more as an accent in the final track but for Knux, it's the entire song base. It's cool to see it utilised in different ways based on the context

  • @bootlegbison3758
    @bootlegbison3758 Рік тому +10

    I've been studying music for the past 2 years so far because I love video game music. Accidentally plagiarising music is something that scares me sooo much. I once had a song idea that I let sit in my head for a while, until I wrote it down and immediately realised I was literally copying the melody to "The Clock Tower" from dead cell without even remembering that's where it came from. I really wanna make some bops but I have so many inspirations I'm a bit scared of just straight up ripping off a song.

  • @extremmefan7305
    @extremmefan7305 Рік тому +143

    Apparently music is literally the main thing holding back Mother 3 from being localized; not dissimilar to how rarely Sonic 3 got rereleased (or its music referenced).
    And that's because one of the causes for it is the same. Japan can get away with ITS Mother 3 rereleases because the copyright laws on music are much more lenient apparently, but the game has several key compositions taken from western pop culture; INCLUDING the man, MJ himself, with M3's Natural Killer Robot sounding like the hit title Beat It (one of my personal childhood favorite).
    And that's without counting all the other songs it likely "stole" from (we don't know if it's an actual steal for any of them but apparently there's strong similarities). The Mother/EarthBound series in general did that quite a lot, but because the first two games were in an era where you couldn't really tell whether it was direct samplings or just inspirations, they're given more of a pass because most of them are transformative shorter snippets. Mother 3 does not have that luxury, as it does it for several kinds of songs, short or not, transformed or not, with NKR being the icing on the cake (it's a battle theme for a boss fight; it's clearly neither short nor transformative).

    • @juanrodriguez9971
      @juanrodriguez9971 Рік тому +11

      I love how despite having less than 100k views (not even 90k) feels like everyone watched the same video, kind of tells how small and concentrated the community actually is for it to seemingly feel like everyone knows about this now.

    • @NikolasN64
      @NikolasN64 Рік тому +6

      Yea, just saw a video about this on “Moon Channel”’s account. Crazy bruh I thought it was the other suspicious things about the game

    • @crittr
      @crittr Рік тому +5

      A large portion of Sanctuary Guardian from Mother 2 sounds incredibly similar to the intro theme of Fresh Prince of Bel-Air

  • @CysmaWinheim
    @CysmaWinheim Рік тому +191

    Thanks to Koji Kondo "borrowing" a few notes, I now enjoy listening to Japanese jazz-fusion.

    • @scottythegreat1
      @scottythegreat1 Рік тому +8

      That's how I got started with T-Square. The Adventures album and the New-S album are full of video game inspirations.

    • @CysmaWinheim
      @CysmaWinheim Рік тому +4

      @@scottythegreat1 Truth is another great album of theirs.

    • @RobinsMusic
      @RobinsMusic 8 місяців тому +4

      Casiopea is amazing

  • @nicco7955
    @nicco7955 Рік тому +368

    There’s really no such thing as plagiarism in music. Its one of the things that people in the popular eye get horribly wrong

    • @ZaCloud-Animations___she-her
      @ZaCloud-Animations___she-her Рік тому +35

      Um, no, there is. 😐
      Sometimes it's just overextended.

    • @the-NightStar
      @the-NightStar 11 місяців тому +45

      Except when it was the guy who did the soundtrack for Dragon Ball Z Kai. That guy was an out-and-out thief.

    • @elmarakovideo
      @elmarakovideo 11 місяців тому +4

      @@the-NightStar It was cool when the US dub had to finally use the 1989 Shunsuke Kikuchi music, but the placement was lazy & repetitive! Kai music sounds great yet it was stolen.🙄

    • @ironmaster6496
      @ironmaster6496 10 місяців тому +4

      ​@@ZaCloud-Animations___she-hercan we say there's a difference between for example, using almost the same 3 seconds of another song while the actual rest of song sounds different, and stuff like Challengers from DBZ budokai where it's literally just an instrumental version of a real song, right?

    • @ZaCloud-Animations___she-her
      @ZaCloud-Animations___she-her 10 місяців тому +1

      @@ironmaster6496 Absolutely. Pretty much exemplifies my point.

  • @czmmpower3005
    @czmmpower3005 Рік тому +17

    12:51 HOW DARE YOU! RUIN THE MARBLE ZONE THEME FOR ME! WHHYYYYYYYY!?

  • @The_Metal_Mechanic
    @The_Metal_Mechanic Рік тому +138

    Thank you for mentioning Yamamoto. I discovered Stratovarius indirectly because of Budokai. I fell in love with Hunting High and Low in my teen years and it always felt super familiar to me. It wasn't until I heard about Yamamoto's plagarism scandal that I went through and found out that not only was that track stolen for Budokai, but 2 more songs from the same album were also stolen for Budokai. Finding out was somehow felt rewarding and hollow at the same time.

    • @MastaGambit
      @MastaGambit Рік тому +5

      it aggravates me that alax only focused on September in the video lmao

    • @Deliveredmean42
      @Deliveredmean42 11 місяців тому +1

      @@MastaGambit The ending tho.

  • @EpsilonZolton
    @EpsilonZolton Рік тому +154

    i knew about green greens , sonic 3 and dooms music but just seeing the expanse of it across the entire video game library is astounding
    however songs like these are the reason that sillva gunner exists

  • @Sean_Bird
    @Sean_Bird Рік тому +15

    One of my favorite examples of this is from Garou: Mark of the Wolves, where Rock Howard's theme, Spread the Wings, has part of Robert Miles' song Children in it, and it's pretty blatant too. It's likely why the song hasn't ever been reused for Rock in his later appearances, giving him new original themes instead.

  • @ThisisTheUltimate
    @ThisisTheUltimate Рік тому +20

    I actually have seen already a lot of Sonic songs that are inspired or have the same melody as other songs, I have created a private playlist just for that actually, lol, some of those in the video I already knew, but I found some new ones too, cool!
    The ones that I already had on my playlist, here just to share, are these:
    Peter Piper (Run DMC) - Launch Base Zone (Sonic 3) (both melody and "Go!" samples)
    Americana (The Offspring) - Won't Stop, Just Go!/Green Forest (Sonic Adventure 2)
    Ghetto Red Hot (Super Cat, especifically the Hip Hop Mix) - Red Mountain (inside part)/Red Hot Skull (Sonic Adventure)
    Push The Feeling On (Nightcrawlers) - Reactive Factory/Work it Out (Sonic R)
    Step Daughter (Casiopea) - Bridge Zone (Sonic 1 GG and SMS)/Believe in Myself (Sonic Adventure) (that already sounds like Bridge Zone)
    Music Sounds Better With You (Stardust) - Dreams of an Absolution (Silver's theme, Sonic 06)
    I also got some tracks that are just samples used in Sonic Songs instead of melodies, like used in Sonic CD or Sonic Rush ("Work that Sucker to Death" and "Feeling Hot, hot, hot", just some examples)
    Also, I already knew some of the Nintendo ones too, and discovered some news as well, also pretty nice

  • @yuikitsuneko
    @yuikitsuneko Рік тому +93

    One example I really like is the Touhou Project series. A lot of the songs ZUN makes, especially the older ones, sound like they are nods to other songs. My favorite example the theme of Momiji Inubashiri(the awoo meme girl) and how it sounds just like a song called Song in Blue! There's a lot of other similar examples in the series and I really recommend you check them out!

    • @BinglesP
      @BinglesP Рік тому +6

      I always wondered why he managed to make so many different melodies. I guess that's why.

    • @somefries3101
      @somefries3101 Рік тому +2

      Remilia's theme

    • @yuikitsuneko
      @yuikitsuneko Рік тому +1

      @@somefries3101 Context?

    • @somefries3101
      @somefries3101 Рік тому +3

      @@yuikitsuneko beethoven

    • @marx4538
      @marx4538 Рік тому

      Song in blue for a primarily red-colored character

  • @gribblegrape6496
    @gribblegrape6496 Рік тому +69

    A recent example of this I personally really like is the similarities between the intros to, orb of dreamers from 2008’s Littlebigplanet. And chirp from 2011’s Minecraft. There was some talk about c418, the composer of Minecraft plagiarizing from ( I believe his name was Daniel Pemberton ) the composer of lbp. But the truth is that they both just ripped a sound loop from apple’s garage band app and called it a day. lol
    As someone who adores both series, and came to the conclusion that one copied the other long before I ever heard anything online about it, that’s a very funny end to that story.

    • @tahutoa
      @tahutoa Рік тому +4

      I think the loop might come from the mellotron

  • @Da_Boeh7312
    @Da_Boeh7312 Рік тому +19

    I love your coverage of such a wide variety of music genres and groups, I'd love to see this formatt of video on the channel more frequently

  • @Plaston_
    @Plaston_ Рік тому +14

    Taking "inspirations" is a thing every composers tend to do and i think it quite beneficial when you need some help to get more creative.

    • @Diogo85
      @Diogo85 9 місяців тому +1

      And some people think that's plagiarism.

  • @abicto
    @abicto Рік тому +50

    surprised that you didn't mention pretty much the entire mother 3 ost considering people theorize that its why it wasn't ported

  • @dooki51
    @dooki51 Рік тому +52

    I think my favorite example of really weird blantant style rip-offs is Mujoe’s theme in the Bomberman Jetters anime. It’s very similar to a certain comedy show about nothing.

  • @Shattered_Spirit
    @Shattered_Spirit Рік тому +12

    8:16 you can't run forever..

  • @ivanguajardomunoz940
    @ivanguajardomunoz940 11 місяців тому +8

    8:56 The part where he collapsed absolutely made me laugh xD

  • @glowkirby
    @glowkirby Рік тому +11

    13:32 The name of the song is “Love Won’t Wait”, earlier in the same album.

  • @Chubby_Bub
    @Chubby_Bub Рік тому +19

    please keep making videos like this I need to inject them straight into my mind like it's chicken soup. Which means it's time for me to go on a rant (well, at the end of the video, you asked for it). Here is some of what I can offer in this regards:
    I can tell you while K.K. Slider's songs obviously have inspiration because they're meant to represent different genres as a whole, probably like half of them are blatantly inspired by or directly quoting a famous song from that genre. Toru Minegishi and Kazumi Totaka well knew what they were doing. Some examples:
    - K.K. Faire and Tancha Mebushi (Okinawan folk song)
    - K.K. Condor and Carnavalito (Chilean folk song, these are basically the exact same)
    - Rockin' K.K. and "Johnny B. Goode", again
    - Steep Hill and "Ichigo Hakusho o Mōichido"/"The Strawberry Statement Once Again" (Japanese folk rock song by BanBan)
    - K.K. Moody (aka K.K. Bolero) and "Sabor a Mí" (bolero by Álvaro Carillo)
    - K.K. Chorinho and "Tico Tico no Fubá" (choro by Zequinha de Abreu, these are also near identical)
    - Hazure02 (invalid song #2) and "Sparkle" (city pop by Tatsuro Yamashita)
    Not to mention lots of other general references, like "Two Days Ago" and the Beatles.
    Aside from that I also like how Mario Maker's edit themes get a bit cheeky, SMB1 Underground resembles "Take Five" (even though it's in 6/4) and SMB1 Underwater quotes Juventino Rosa's waltz "Sobre las Olas" so well I can't help but wonder if it originally inspired Kondo, especially given the meaning…

  • @coolguy5133
    @coolguy5133 Рік тому +20

    I am no music genius nor lawyer, but I am pretty sure copy cord progression is not plagiarism.

    • @jmurray1110
      @jmurray1110 4 місяці тому

      It should be be but ever since blurred lines music copyright suits have tightened the restrictions
      Ed did end up winning his case bjf it took a lot of fighting

  • @dilflover69x97
    @dilflover69x97 Рік тому +11

    10:01 this part was in Henry Stickmin series somewhere too one of the endings I think

    • @ChannelIsNotInUse
      @ChannelIsNotInUse 9 місяців тому +1

      And now I suddenly hear Ghost Inmate when I listen to this. I cannot believe it was influenced/plagiarized

    • @MusicianNrd
      @MusicianNrd 6 місяців тому

      @@ChannelIsNotInUseIt was actually remixed by 3lation on Newgrounds and UA-cam

  • @Wooly4
    @Wooly4 Рік тому +41

    One I’m really surprised you didn’t mention is the Mario Bros. game start jingle just straight up being Mozart’s Eine Kleine Nachtmusik. Although with a name like that…

    • @Chubby_Bub
      @Chubby_Bub Рік тому +23

      I mean that one's just _supposed_ to be that piece, it's not even a nod or anything.

    • @BinglesP
      @BinglesP Рік тому +8

      The composer making that jingle and showing it to quality assurance like: "Keep it down, so I can win the loot!" (/ref)

  • @expandulardongus360
    @expandulardongus360 Рік тому +13

    10:08 An AD cut off the fart with reverb which made it funnier

  • @DaThingy
    @DaThingy Рік тому +9

    I like the way that they changed Sonic 3 & Knuckles' music in most compilations while Sonic 1 has more songs that actually sound like their original song lol.

  • @jdh9419
    @jdh9419 Рік тому +12

    12:11 Wrong game. You meant to show a cartridge of Super Mario Bros. 2 USA

    • @kurokoro
      @kurokoro Рік тому +8

      Lol thats earthbound and in japan is known as mother.

  • @ARDIZsq
    @ARDIZsq Рік тому +32

    Video Game OSTs having inspiration from existing songs is always a fascinating topic, and it's more than likely THE thing keeping MOTHER 3 from being released in the West. MOTHER 2 and 3 have SO many songs that take from existing songs, it's almost baffling how they got away with it all. I think it's something to do with international copyright laws, but man does it suck that MOTHER 3 will be stuck in Japan thanks to it. (Yes, there are other smaller factors as well, but it's likely that the music is the main thing keeping it in Japan)

  • @chi-wind8593
    @chi-wind8593 Рік тому +11

    13:21:My same reaction, I listened to that many times. I can’t believe that I did not make that connection.

  • @20035079
    @20035079 Рік тому +7

    3:00 this was so clean tho

  • @UltraNurture
    @UltraNurture Рік тому +4

    I learned a lot from this video and I'm a huge fan of the music content you've been making. It's very interesting to what songs some video game tracks used as inspiration.

  • @souptaels
    @souptaels Рік тому +6

    Local man finds out nothing is original
    New title: "Video Game Music Inspirations", but I guess it's more "UA-cam" to say they "stole" music lol

  • @austinreed5805
    @austinreed5805 Рік тому +13

    14:00
    Oh boy!
    Now we’re into Sonic and Michael Jackson.

  • @Jader47
    @Jader47 Рік тому +11

    3:10 Peppino scream meme

  • @danilosVEVO
    @danilosVEVO Рік тому +8

    this video was such a rollercoaster of emotions for me, I've been listening to this songs for my whole life and never knew anything of this, I'm so glad I clicked on this video, excellent work my guy I'm totally suscribing

  • @xProErax
    @xProErax Рік тому +69

    0:14 I can now confirm that this is now the "thanks 5 watching" of Alax's new era of content

  • @RyderMK
    @RyderMK Рік тому +17

    7:12
    Now I just wanna hear the two mixed together

  • @myrigatoni
    @myrigatoni Рік тому

    This is such a good video, my favorite one you’ve made so far. Would love a part 2!

  • @GardenCelluloids
    @GardenCelluloids Рік тому +6

    3:35 that is objectively a great song

  • @militariuspcgamer3856
    @militariuspcgamer3856 Рік тому +42

    new thumb-man vid!!11!!!

  • @JenukiDa
    @JenukiDa Рік тому +45

    i love how you recreate the songs with the respect game’s soundfont it’s super duper charming

    • @HalfBreadOrder
      @HalfBreadOrder Рік тому +1

      ?

    • @MrGamelover23
      @MrGamelover23 Рік тому +5

      ​@@HalfBreadOrderI believe they meant to say the game's respective sound font, so like if it's a Mario song, they use the instruments from the Mario game.

  • @a-bombmori7393
    @a-bombmori7393 Рік тому +1

    This is a great video, because it not only brings attention to a very real problem that many people might not be aware of, but also explains how some examples of it have been overblown. It's nice to have that kind of nuance.

  • @TheAdvertisement
    @TheAdvertisement Рік тому +30

    Toby Fox stealing musical motifs is proof that he's the spirit of Spamton.

    • @scatcat8371
      @scatcat8371 Рік тому +3

      Toby has two forms.
      1) Dog
      2) [[Big Shot]]

    • @Diogo85
      @Diogo85 9 місяців тому

      He didn't steal.

    • @TheAdvertisement
      @TheAdvertisement 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Diogo85 Does Spamton steal?

    • @Diogo85
      @Diogo85 9 місяців тому

      @@TheAdvertisement I haven't played Snowgrave route so I wouldn't know.

    • @TheAdvertisement
      @TheAdvertisement 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Diogo85 💀

  • @actone4822
    @actone4822 Рік тому +11

    One similarity that I know between two games is a brief musical phrase in Sonic R's "Living in the City" which is also in Persona 3's "When Moon's Reaching Out Stars". You can find this in the former in the phrase "you have to keep the dream alive" and in the latter in the phrase "Wonder how look in your eyes". Not exact, but close enough for conedy

    • @azurestone
      @azurestone Рік тому

      Forgive me if I'm wrong but this case may make sense due to how if I remember correctly Persona is made by SEGA. Which would explain that LOL! That is pretty cool act one and thanks for pointing that out!

    • @LonelyNumber
      @LonelyNumber Рік тому

      @@azurestone I don't think atlus had been aquired by sega yet at that point.

  • @CyberYeast75
    @CyberYeast75 Рік тому +21

    Still can’t wait for Alax to make a Pizza Tower video

  • @holgerlarsson7531
    @holgerlarsson7531 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic video! Like your “videogame samples” video, it quite an unexplored topic and on fascinating to delve into. Now I have a bunch of new music to explore that remind me of thing i already like, thank you!

  • @9Tensai9
    @9Tensai9 10 місяців тому

    8:12 Nichojou mentioned!!
    I was thinking about that exactly. That was my introduction to that song. I love you Alax.
    I also loooove this kind of videos talking about music inspiration and crossrefferencing and all that.
    I'm so happy to have you back Alax

  • @BinglesP
    @BinglesP Рік тому +10

    This is my #1 fear with composing in my music side-hobby. My first album ended up having some of the worst, most melodically-unsatisfying songs I've ever heard because I was so paranoid with people accusing me of stealing other songs, and prioritizing originality over actually sounding good.
    I used a(n unadjusted, might I add,) clarinet as a bass in one of them, and the mix was awful. The song was mainly on string instruments, but somehow the layer that shares a name with the string category specialized to it was just _too_ cliché for me at the time of making it.
    Not complaining about the video itself though, it only proves my current opinion. Awesome video as always.

    • @ehhorve857
      @ehhorve857 Рік тому +2

      YOU should look- I mean listen to cruelty squad and the Quake musics, they both do this thing, squad more-so, where they make melodically unsatisfying song that you WANT to listen to, like, pharmakinetics, it just goes BEE-da-da-DE-DE be-DEE-BEE-de de BAAAAAAGERRRRGEEEEBEEEEE tunununun TUNUNUNUN *TUNUNUNUN*
      (10 seconds of silence)
      *BWANANANA* BWANANANA *BWAAAAAAAA*
      seriously, people say that making music is a gift? making tonally HARSH and dissonant skreeching that people WILLINGLY listen to is a bountiful BLESSING.

  • @jordy_de-zee
    @jordy_de-zee Рік тому +15

    1:13 "WA-HAT?" that was my reaction

  • @deklin90thegod
    @deklin90thegod Рік тому +4

    4:32 Is so inspiring i am going to make a whole paragraph on it

  • @PhilTruthborne
    @PhilTruthborne Рік тому +3

    In my eyes and as a creator myself i see copying people (to a reasonable extent) more as a form of admiration. There is a **huge** difference in taking someone's work and using it to make things easier for yourself compared to taking inspiration from something, remixing it or hell, ever covering it. Making something that sounds similar to something already existing but that still has had conciderable work put into it is a tribute more than anything else. In this world of media we are all inspired by eachother.
    Now i got to add tho that intentions matter a lot here and there are very real and blatant examples of plagiarism out there and that's not okay. If it's not an act of passion, but of laziness, then there's not much to appreciate more than someone copying your homework back in the school days.
    Tho to make things clear, i don't do these things myself in my works but i do support it as long as it's done in good faith and doesn't cause any real problems or harm.
    Modern copyright laws are a disgrace to art.

  • @Wahooski
    @Wahooski Рік тому +11

    One of my favorite games, Pikuniku, for its ending, uses a slower version of “Here comes the sun” my the Beatles. This is probably by favorite uses of the song ever. It makes the ending seem so wholesome, almost like the robots are leaving from the sky and opening it up to see the blue skies shine down

    • @supercamborg4218
      @supercamborg4218 Рік тому +1

      I need to replay that game

    • @Hulderkall
      @Hulderkall Рік тому

      YES THIS ONE
      Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed it

  • @analog_mart
    @analog_mart Рік тому +36

    a few songs also fall under the same umbrella as "Hard Times" due to Masato Nakamura being both the composer for the first two sonic games, as well as part of a band called "Dreams Come True". the credits theme from sonic 2 is the same as a song called "Sweet Sweet Sweet" or "Sweet Dream" in english, which was updated for the credits of sonic 06 (featuring Akon, funnily enough)

    • @caucasoidape8838
      @caucasoidape8838 Рік тому +2

      It sucks that Sonic Team can't use the title, or zone complete music that the first two games had.

    • @PKSuperStar256
      @PKSuperStar256 11 місяців тому +6

      @@caucasoidape8838, or basically any music from Sonic 1 and 2 except the drowning theme since it was created by an in-house sound designer from Sega.

  • @CrisisMoon7
    @CrisisMoon7 Рік тому +4

    14:53 Hard Times is un ironically one of my favorite songs

  • @devilord3271
    @devilord3271 Рік тому +3

    Honestly the Dragon Ball thing has always bothered me, like most of the songs that are accused of being "stolen" are huge stretches, like how the shop theme in one of the games is accused being stolen from daft punk's "harder better faster stronger" when the only similarity they have is that theyre both techno songs, and a lot of the songs in general just feel more inspired than just straight up stolen

  • @abetternamethanthat6273
    @abetternamethanthat6273 Рік тому +19

    9:54 Hi, weirdos. Here's another prank, but this one involves Ice Cube instead of Bubble. Just take the Ice Cube Recovery Center, and just carry over the edge of a cliff, maybe, with a tree, yeah, yeah, definitely, yeah. That's mandatory. And attach a spring from the tree to the Ice Cube Recovery Center, and then, melt Ice Cube. Melting kills her, right? (yeah) okay, good. Ice Cube is recreated, in the Ice Cube Recovery Center, she'll like weigh it down and the Ice Cube Recovery Center will tilt down off the cliff, and Ice Cube will fall out and she'll crash to the bottom of the cliff and Ice Cube is recreated in the Ice Cube Recovery Center, she'll like weigh it down and Ice Cube Recovery Center will tilt down off the cliff, and the cycle repeats! Yeah, isn't that cool? Pretty funny? (This program, was brought to you, by Blocky's Funny Doings International)

  • @Boostifer
    @Boostifer Рік тому +6

    this is easily like
    top 5 RelaxAlax videos, your love and attention to these sorta things is INFECTIOUS. Defs would be interested in hearing you talk about connecting details like this

  • @Solesteam
    @Solesteam Рік тому +4

    12:58
    Is this gonna explain why it always sounded so familia- o... okay then. I definitely never heard that before... Back to the drawing board then

  • @lilwater4718
    @lilwater4718 Рік тому +1

    I'm absolutely in love with the music content. Please keep making more

  • @matthulu
    @matthulu Рік тому +8

    Mor Ardain's theme from Xenoblade 2 takes from 3 completely different songs. The most prominent is the chorus to Thriller, but you can also hear a bit of Dancing Queen and Crab Rave in there too.

  • @cakeghoul
    @cakeghoul Рік тому +7

    Another example of this is Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines' menu theme is is extremely similar to Angel by Massive Attack. This is because during production they used the song as a placeholder menu theme and it fit the vibe of the game so well, the composer for the game was inspired by that song for the actual menu theme. This inspiration also carries over to the (as of now) unreleased sequel, which has had it's menu theme released on youtube.

  • @mikhaeldarriens3810
    @mikhaeldarriens3810 Рік тому +3

    As someone who spends a lot of time watching random video essays, I really took "in conclusion.. why does everything always come back to sonic" way too much to heart

  • @rickyquinteros7100
    @rickyquinteros7100 Рік тому +6

    5:37 That is oddly so accurate

  • @jevilplayer6335
    @jevilplayer6335 Рік тому +9

    11:11 another great example is how the original lavender town on 1.75 speed matches gaster's theme

    • @keithmorrison8373
      @keithmorrison8373 Місяць тому

      Probaly intetional toby fox interpolates song alot

  • @grimer1746
    @grimer1746 Рік тому +15

    The Mario underground theme led to me finding one of my new favorite albums

  • @superrupee
    @superrupee Рік тому +2

    Earthbound isn't surprising that game is full of references to popculture, but with all these others you are a walking playlist that can link song to other songs, the song encyclopedia

  • @LoraCoggins
    @LoraCoggins Рік тому +1

    “What do they want to do? Create a new key called H?” Germany: *looks off to the side*

  • @SupaRichieRich13
    @SupaRichieRich13 Рік тому +51

    Great job showing the samples back to back at the same tempo (8:25); really makes the connection clear to understand! Also noticed song you played at 13:32 is "Love Don't Wait" by Bobby Caldwell, not "What You Won't Do For Love."

    • @clichechad6623
      @clichechad6623 Рік тому +8

      Thats “Love Won’t Wait”*

    • @dddangerdick
      @dddangerdick 8 місяців тому

      THANK YOU! I was trying to figure out why I couldn't find the part he referenced.

  • @Fool_Bait
    @Fool_Bait Рік тому +16

    A great question is how did you find all these songs. Like this is an impressive amount of research.

  • @pez.emikazoo
    @pez.emikazoo Рік тому +2

    10:20 for your fix of Slot Machine, ladies, gents and the rest of y’all. I was jumping around until you finally mentioned Friendship’s Let’s Not Talk About It, it was inevitable and I love that group. Now we are really relaxalaxing babe.

  • @longjohn1987
    @longjohn1987 Рік тому +1

    Haha Alax, I just had to come say you are the only UA-camr I've come across that makes me laugh out loud, your video's are so entertaining and this one taught me alot! Keep it up mate

  • @davidvkimball
    @davidvkimball Рік тому +40

    Loving this regular content, man. Keep it coming. 🎉

  • @Frostflame
    @Frostflame Рік тому +9

    Gosh the edit at 0:34 is AMAZING, that slapped

  • @josiahtheawkward6008
    @josiahtheawkward6008 Рік тому +8

    12:00 NOOOOO

  • @PoggersGoblin
    @PoggersGoblin Рік тому +6

    The FF7 one made me think about the similarities between it and part of the opening of "for whom the bell tolls" by Metallica, specifically around 1:50 and further until the lyrics hit.

    • @PoggersGoblin
      @PoggersGoblin Рік тому

      I now realize this could be something that they took from because it came out 13 years before ff7

  • @caitlinabbott7895
    @caitlinabbott7895 Рік тому +9

    1:00
    "The Only time a month was copied was when Augustus Caesar copied July"

  • @trondordoesstuff
    @trondordoesstuff Рік тому +7

    11:20 On the subject, compare Final Fantasy's "Who Are You?" to "Gaster's Theme" and "ANOTHER HIM".

  • @fluffcake
    @fluffcake Рік тому +4

    Ever since I found out Budokai’s ost was full of plagiarized music my whole world was changed.

  • @andreworders7305
    @andreworders7305 Рік тому +5

    0:52 you think this would have been what made everyone realize he was a plagiarist, but nope.

  • @beanbean9364
    @beanbean9364 Рік тому +6

    This may be my favorite video of yours. My mind has been completely blown away by everything you showed

  • @redshyguynumber5567
    @redshyguynumber5567 Рік тому +13

    Did anyone else feel a sponsorship? 10:48

  • @dwightdeisenhower53
    @dwightdeisenhower53 Рік тому +2

    In Toby's defense, the scene with Oh My Love was a spoof of the opera scene from final fantasy VI

  • @crimsonchaos7224
    @crimsonchaos7224 7 місяців тому +1

    You missed out on the biggest Sonic example; Chaos 6's battle theme from Sonic Adventure straight up uses the Mission Impossible riff. It's not even REMOTELY subtle.