I would definitely watch more of these! Class A, Class B, and Class C comparisons. Ike Gauntlets, Fuel loops, and Performance comparisons. Towing tests would also be appreciated!!! The real world testing you guys do would be awesome: dry camping tests of batteries and tank capacities would be great to see. Dry camping does involve some off road so you guys would be all set to try some of that as well. Thanks very much for what you guys do. Love the channel and variety!!!
I follow a few RV channels on UA-cam, and none of them do any testing like this. I really think you have found something here. It is one thing to know what features and equipment is in an RV, but how does it perform? No one that I know of is doing that. I think the Ike Gauntlet test is the perfect test to help buyers select the RV that suits their needs. I vote for TFLRV. Keep up the great videos.
I agree doing a RVing / towing side show on the TFLT channel. I'm RV trailer owner. Two points on towing, Mph really effects MPG's and at what sweet spot does the tranny stay in over-drive while towing. That is why the eco-boost gets poor gas mileage with towing a heavy load because it has to stay at a higher rpm.
This episode is awesome and I've never seen any publication test and dyno a mobile home. I'm not interested in one, but it's interesting and good to know you can mod a mobile home.
Especially a motorhome! I modify everything from Corvettes and tire-shredding Duramax diesels to sportbikes and even a bicycle that I installed a weed-wacker engine on that could do 48mph! My motorhome is a Chevy Vortec 454 V8- and while not car-fast, would destroy this V10 motorhome in a drag race, uphill, and in MPG with my modifications. I havent even tuned it yet, there is lots more that I still have planned for it. You can't have too much power in these buildings on wheels! As evidenced by this video, motorhomes lose over 100HP from the crank to the wheels from a restrictive intake and exhaust, etc. Then losing even more power to turn a huge driveshaft, differential and axle, and extremely heavy dually wheels. My 'Big Bertha' is 21 years old and worked hard weekly, still running perfect with the mods too. I wouldnt drive a motorhome without modifications!
I’ve got a 2014 Tiffin Allegro and the main reason people get the tune is drivability. In stock form the transmission is wonky with shifts that don’t always make sense. For this reason I usually drive mine in tow/haul mode which helps a lot. The 5-Star Tune completely fixes the issue. I give it 5 stars.
The tow/haul locks the torque in every gear except first. By doing this it lowers the fluid temperatures by not using the fluid coupling of the torque converter. The reason the hp and torque numbers are so low, is the testing they show you is in Colorado. The mass of the drive line really saps the "power" not to mention the commercial tires(height) causes loses to the dyno. 31" tire vs 35"tire will show very different results on the same vehicle and day
The only thing you could compare that V10 to is a house with a lawnmower engine (31seconds to 60, and sounding like its gonna blow)! That LS Winnie is pretty quick though. Itll lay the smack down on my Vortec 454 motorhome, while my old '98 technology (modified😉) will walk all over this new Ford V10. I laugh all the way to the bank, every time I go 'tour' these new RVs, then go back to mine!
Also all of you bitching about how your motor home is faster if it even is I would bet there not has heavy as this one plus I have driven many bucket trucks with vortec era 454s and fords with v10s the v10 pulls a lot better plus it has 2more gears so you people must be high or something now if your talking about chevys 8.1 that’s a different story and as far as the turbo wino it would come apart running up the Ike running wide open
Thank you for doing this to all the gas rv owners out there who knew about the 5 star tuning and was curious to know what difference would it make now we know thanks to this channel .. im sharing this video !!!
You should do a ike gauntlet with RVs take 2 or 3 of the most popular from each category of RV and put them against each other and include Class B, Class C, Gas class A, diesel class A, super C, Truck conversions(renegade, showhauler etc), bus conversions(prevost, newell, foretravel etc) and do towing tests etc. You can't find this sort of info anywhere so it would be pretty interesting and valuable.
Mines a Chevy Powertrain ('98 Vortec 454 with mods- much quicker than this Ford) but with Ford headlights. I had to change them because they were slowing it down!
@@bmcdonald7303 You can still get the Banks kits for the 460. The headers are great, and stock 460 exhaust manifolds often get leaks in them and can crack pretty easily. The stainless headers and exhaust are a huge improvement over factory exhaust, if not for power, than for overall reliability. You don't have to get the transmission electronics from Banks when you get the 460 kit, however, you get better shift performance from the Banks transmission electronics. They claim that their shift timing and the increased fluid pressures that the transmission runs during certain engine output conditions helps to reduce wear in the transmission by changing the shift points and increasing the positivity of clutch pack actions during shifts.
@snoboy5898 wow...old post from me. No real increase in noise. The benefit is in the shifting. Less hunting for the right gear. Not as sluggish.....but its still a motorhome. I pulled a c-max, still got 12 mpg, Imperial....so...10 USA...overall. worth the cost if you're doing a lot of miles. You may want to get a tuner, too.......not for increased power, but to avoid MANY check engine lights.....computer needs to know about the increased airflow . Otherwise, too many false alerts regarding airflow sensor failure. (Cost me a bundle before I figured that out). Better than cheating by using a cheap OBD reading to just cancel the false alert.
There is no wonder why you guys have so many subscribers - straight forward information from knowledgeable journalists with entertainment to boot! I had a 38' Class A with the 6.8 Ford and found it to be a capable engine, I just wasn't comfortable with the noise from the high rpm when pulling hills. I believe, like you guys showed, that the tuner would have made a big difference for me. Thanks for another great video!
When I drove a Uhual to help my Brother move the Uhual actually done better through Pennsylvania after I turned tow haul mode off.I got where I would build up speed on the way down hill to help me maintain speed going up the next hill.
Yeah that would be a very interesting comparison, particularly if they got one of a similar length and weight. As someone who may be buying a Class A in a few years I would love to see that. I already know I would prefer a diesel but there is huge price difference.
Really not that big of an improvement, which is understandable for this NA engine. Need to go with a turbodiesel in this application if it's available. I appreciate the sponsor allowing you to test this anyways, and their EcoBoost tunes look great.
To get any performance increase the cost easily triple or quadruple from the factory. Meaning an L9 the B6.7 do not produce pickup type hp and torque numbers.
So, I have one of these. You didn't mention what went into the tune and how much it costs for the upgrade. That's a big factor when trying to decide whether to make the investment.
Yes I would also watch it and I think it could provide a lot of very valuable info to someone looking to buy a RV especially if they do towing test etc because it might make someone realise they don't need to spend another 100k on a RV to get a bigger engine so they can tow.
Oh, the possibilities with TFLRV. You could pit the Coachmen Crossfit/Beyond with the 3.7 against the 3.5 EcoBoost. Get with LTV and put a Sprinter with diesel against a Transit with diesel. Or see if there are any differences between Class A and Class C with V-10.
I occasionally drive a 2005 Chevy C8500 at work, and fully loaded at 33,000 lbs, I get a solid 75 second 0-60. (Almost completely flat at about 100ft above sea level.)
Thanks for posting your very through review. Results were less performance & gas mileage improvement than I would have expected with your 5 star tune up .
Wow guys perfect timing. Thinking about going from our diesel pusher to a gas RV with a V10. I know performance is going to be dramatically different and glad to see the possibility of improving it. Maybe a mileage test on your 100 mile loop would be interesting? Also subscribe to many RV mags and websites and TFL is the first I've seen that did "Real world testing" on an RV! Keep up the great work you guys do and I'm ordering a T shirt!
Watched this video. Bought the tuner for my 2019 Tiffin V10 gas, which struggled to maintain 70MPH on the highway and wanted to run at 67-68. After installation today, the RV runs comfortably at 73-75 MPH with the lightest press of the gas pedal. This tuner is fabulous. Acceleration off the line is so much improved. I disliked the V10 enough that I considered trading my 2019 for the new 2021 Tiffin (same model, 38 foot or the 36UA model), for the new 7.3L Ford V8. Dealer wants my coach plus $55,000.00 just to gain 30HP on the new V8. Well, I am so glad I tried the 5-Star tuner, as it made this RV more of a driver's machine. I won't be opting for the new 7.3L V8....this upgrade on the 6.8L V10 is good enough to be happy. BTW, this review is dead-on accurate and factual. It's exactly what you will obtain for the price of this tuner. Highly recommend.
TFL I would love for you take one truck i.e. F150 and tow 3 different types of travel trailers all about the same weight and size but of the different styles a teardrop, a rounded nose, and a square nose and find out what, if any fuel saving these designs effect the truck's gas mileage. Thanks for your great work
I don’t have a motorhome yet but hope to in a year. I’ve been thinking of a shot of nitrous for hills and passing. Cheapest and easiest means of boosting power. Nitrous isn’t a “fuel”, by the way. It’s an oxidizer. Using a “wet” nitrous system includes an additional shot of gasoline along with the extra oxygen. The nozzles are on a plate that is inserted under the carb or behind the throttle body in EFI. A simple nitrous metering nozzle change gives you the added power for your needs in measured steps. Much simpler than a turbo or a Procharger.
You should definitely continue to do RV reviews. Especially with the new 7.3 l Ford coming with new TVs starting 2020. This video came at the time I was considering to buy one. Great job.
its always cool to me that even ford trucks that were discontinued 15 plus years ago parts are still manufactured and used in modern day rvs and f650 plus size trucks, the dash is from a 2005 super duty in this rv even though it's a 2016 rv. I know demand is still there for old replacement parts for older trucks but a lot of parts used on new rv and f650 trucks can be found even from 2000 model trucks lol.
Roman really set us up like something was going to happen... and then nothing happened lol. I used to have a motor home and the gas pump would max out at 80-100 dollars before the tank would fill up!!
This was great! Can you please do the same thing with the F53 with a 7.3 when one becomes available? Love to see if the Godzilla really would be worth the wait over the tried and true 6.8!
No wonder the Ford V10 has sucked in my first RV we had. It was either bogging down in low rpms or pissing and screaming at near redline to get anywhere.
Okay, so Cool video. Enjoyed. :) I wasn't impressed with the tune... I mean only a few seconds at best, and a few tenth's of a gallon per mile gained... I don't know.. Maybe my expectations were to high.
Agreed I hope to see bigger improvements! Gotta wonder if daily none mountain driving would be improved. A lotta money for small improvement is it worth it??
Do you plan on doing a test run with the new 7.3 engine in the F53 chassis that will be showing up on the dealer lots soon if not already. Word is Ford engineers finally got off the pot and redesigned some things on the chassis and a bigger engine, it only took about 24 years!! Well lets hope it works out for them. I like my 6.8 and plan to put a tune in it sometime in the future.
They probably leaned out the fuel at highway cruising rpms which would cause more heat and wear in the cylinders and made the transmission gear changes more aggressive adding more reliability concerns. That being said they are just concerns, it could be so minuscule that it never matters or the opposite. No one for sure knows until its too late.
I have 5 star tune on my vehicle and love it. It has made my truck more reliable, better performing, improved mileage, and much more comfortable to drive. I would never hesitate to recommend 5 star for anything.
Want and need are 2 different things. For ocassional use (not daily) gas is superior in terms of running cost and maintenance. Very DIY friendly and lower fuel costs
In case anyone is wondering what a stock one is like. My v10 class c E450 32ft gets about 6.5 mpg with my lead foot. No more than 7 anytime. It’s loud because it’s right next to you. They rev high a lot. On a flat highway it’ll do 75-80 but you should probably keep it lower than 70. Have done the same mountain as I’m in CO. When to the floor your going about 45 max. Then some ass in a piece of crap will get in front of you and you loose all momentum and you can’t pass because you can’t! I do like the Torqshift transmission though, especially on downhill. In tow/haul it senses that your going down and will downshift automatically to keep your speed down. I’m sure the 7.3 gas will be a little better for power but not much.
Someone I know had a diesel city bus converted to an RV and it weighed twice as much had 370 hp and not sure of the torque but I'd guess 1200 maybe and it would do rings around this thing... this thing get worse MPG than a loaded semi truck loaded with goods... that thing should be set on fire... that would be all it would be good for.
Murdoch that's the way to go. A fully loaded bus full of passengers has zero issues moving. It makes the perfect platform for an RV. It can haul ass full of people, that's a lot of weight
problem is all that comparison testing was done at the top of the power band where that tune doesnt do any good. That v10 runs like a dog at full throttle, it loves to be in the 2000-4000 range. used the same tuner on my f350 with v10. It hates full rpm towing. loves the 3000 rpm mark.
I'd love to know if over a long trip if there is a tangible increase in MPG, I'm getting it simply for the better acceleration down low, 100 lbft improvement at 2100 rpm is significant, thanks for the video on this guys, bring us more like perhaps with a CAI even though I don't see that improving things much.
Curious how the tune would take advantage of a Banks full header back exhaust including high flow cat and some type of fully enclosed CAI. Sound difference as well? There are a lot of V10's in the world that sound awesome at full song.
As those wonder if the hit of the test of a class A RV built on a F53 chassis with the triton V10 as the test unit was provided by the coach builder on the F53 chassis when the coach builder was using Silverado headlights and taillights. As those were onto something when they believe the hit of TFLRV was with help from five star tuning was to wake up the performance of the V10 and torq-shift when the company was to have files going as far back as 1997 when the triton family of engines first came out.
Manufacturers power ratings are at the crank not rear wheels but holy crap that's a huge difference in stock form between advertised and real world dyno.
This is the way that you should do all of the Ike gauntlet mpg measurements. Relying on the dash “lie-o-meter” for mpg does not give an accurate pic. Also , ideally a dyno test should be done to make sure that the OEMs aren’t giving “tuned” trucks for the test (btw I really suspect that the Silverado 2.7L turbo was an OEM tuned truck .... especially with the low mpgs)
this was an awesome but random video, something that has been missing since the beginning TFL video's and has been slowly coming back during the past year or so. still love the channel, keep up with out there things like this. i would have to mention that the fuel mileage in something like this isint far off of the so called "eco" mpg's. i believe a 3.3ish towing and the brick is getting in the 4's, though up and down, dont see much "eco" in those new motors.
I think a more moderate road trip would really go a long way. No pun intended. This test was somewhat extreme for showing the tune improvements. Let's try a 30 mile loop over moderate interstate or highway!
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First time I’ve ever seen a big class A rv on a dyno and dragstrip!! 😆😄
I would definitely watch more of these! Class A, Class B, and Class C comparisons. Ike Gauntlets, Fuel loops, and Performance comparisons. Towing tests would also be appreciated!!! The real world testing you guys do would be awesome: dry camping tests of batteries and tank capacities would be great to see. Dry camping does involve some off road so you guys would be all set to try some of that as well. Thanks very much for what you guys do. Love the channel and variety!!!
Maybe a "TFL RV" channel dedicated to testing and reviewing RVs.
Try gold mine Hill lol
Agreed. Let’s do it!
TFLRV would be huge! Do it!
I follow a few RV channels on UA-cam, and none of them do any testing like this. I really think you have found something here. It is one thing to know what features and equipment is in an RV, but how does it perform? No one that I know of is doing that. I think the Ike Gauntlet test is the perfect test to help buyers select the RV that suits their needs. I vote for TFLRV. Keep up the great videos.
100% agree, I also for a TFLRV channel.
problem with it is ALL the new gas class a's use the v10 right now only the smaller class c's and b's have other $$$$$$ options
I agree doing a RVing / towing side show on the TFLT channel. I'm RV trailer owner. Two points on towing, Mph really effects MPG's and at what sweet spot does the tranny stay in over-drive while towing. That is why the eco-boost gets poor gas mileage with towing a heavy load because it has to stay at a higher rpm.
This episode is awesome and I've never seen any publication test and dyno a mobile home. I'm not interested in one, but it's interesting and good to know you can mod a mobile home.
Especially a motorhome! I modify everything from Corvettes and tire-shredding Duramax diesels to sportbikes and even a bicycle that I installed a weed-wacker engine on that could do 48mph! My motorhome is a Chevy Vortec 454 V8- and while not car-fast, would destroy this V10 motorhome in a drag race, uphill, and in MPG with my modifications. I havent even tuned it yet, there is lots more that I still have planned for it. You can't have too much power in these buildings on wheels! As evidenced by this video, motorhomes lose over 100HP from the crank to the wheels from a restrictive intake and exhaust, etc. Then losing even more power to turn a huge driveshaft, differential and axle, and extremely heavy dually wheels. My 'Big Bertha' is 21 years old and worked hard weekly, still running perfect with the mods too. I wouldnt drive a motorhome without modifications!
I’ve got a 2014 Tiffin Allegro and the main reason people get the tune is drivability. In stock form the transmission is wonky with shifts that don’t always make sense. For this reason I usually drive mine in tow/haul mode which helps a lot. The 5-Star Tune completely fixes the issue. I give it 5 stars.
The tow/haul locks the torque in every gear except first. By doing this it lowers the fluid temperatures by not using the fluid coupling of the torque converter. The reason the hp and torque numbers are so low, is the testing they show you is in Colorado. The mass of the drive line really saps the "power" not to mention the commercial tires(height) causes loses to the dyno. 31" tire vs 35"tire will show very different results on the same vehicle and day
18:00 "I have nothing to compare it against"
How about a good old UA-cam call-out vs the sloppy mechanic turbo LS Winnebago?
The only thing you could compare that V10 to is a house with a lawnmower engine (31seconds to 60, and sounding like its gonna blow)! That LS Winnie is pretty quick though. Itll lay the smack down on my Vortec 454 motorhome, while my old '98 technology (modified😉) will walk all over this new Ford V10. I laugh all the way to the bank, every time I go 'tour' these new RVs, then go back to mine!
That floppy noodle of a V10 is no match against the turbo LS Bago
Also all of you bitching about how your motor home is faster if it even is I would bet there not has heavy as this one plus I have driven many bucket trucks with vortec era 454s and fords with v10s the v10 pulls a lot better plus it has 2more gears so you people must be high or something now if your talking about chevys 8.1 that’s a different story and as far as the turbo wino it would come apart running up the Ike running wide open
Thank you for doing this to all the gas rv owners out there who knew about the 5 star tuning and was curious to know what difference would it make now we know thanks to this channel .. im sharing this video !!!
You should do a ike gauntlet with RVs take 2 or 3 of the most popular from each category of RV and put them against each other and include Class B, Class C, Gas class A, diesel class A, super C, Truck conversions(renegade, showhauler etc), bus conversions(prevost, newell, foretravel etc) and do towing tests etc. You can't find this sort of info anywhere so it would be pretty interesting and valuable.
TheDestroyer32 this would be fun to watch
Ford power train, Chevy head and tail lights lol.
2nd generation chevy lights
LumpyCraft they are 07-13 Silverado lights.
lol stole it
Mines a Chevy Powertrain ('98 Vortec 454 with mods- much quicker than this Ford) but with Ford headlights. I had to change them because they were slowing it down!
Those old vortecs were some thirsty sob's!!! What are you getting...1.5 mpg?!🤔🤨😅🤣😂
I liked watching Andre do the drag runs. His reactions were hilarious. It's as though he was about to surpass ludicrous speed and go plaid. 😄
In 50,000 miles, the difference in gas mileage would save 559 gallons, which is $1347 assuming the gas stays the same price you paid that day.
Which is almost nothing! I wouldn't tune to save on gas
I wonder how much it saves on normal roads as opposed to going over the Rockies, something most people spend very little time doing.
Ford chassis, ford engine and transmission, ford gauge cluster, Chevy headlights, and Chevy taillights
Ford builds the chassis, the motor home company builds the coach.
Finally an RV episode. You guys should do more RV episodes since its a huge industry and there is a lot of interest in it.
A Banks power pack(headers and larger exhaust pipes) really does make a huge difference....sure did on my Tiifin MH.
I have a ‘95 Bounder 35 with a 460 and the Banks power kit and Banks transmission kit. It makes a huge difference.
@@jeromep I may need to look into this for my 99 National tropical.
@@bmcdonald7303 You can still get the Banks kits for the 460. The headers are great, and stock 460 exhaust manifolds often get leaks in them and can crack pretty easily. The stainless headers and exhaust are a huge improvement over factory exhaust, if not for power, than for overall reliability. You don't have to get the transmission electronics from Banks when you get the 460 kit, however, you get better shift performance from the Banks transmission electronics. They claim that their shift timing and the increased fluid pressures that the transmission runs during certain engine output conditions helps to reduce wear in the transmission by changing the shift points and increasing the positivity of clutch pack actions during shifts.
How much louder did the banks headers make the Motor home?
@snoboy5898 wow...old post from me. No real increase in noise. The benefit is in the shifting. Less hunting for the right gear. Not as sluggish.....but its still a motorhome. I pulled a c-max, still got 12 mpg, Imperial....so...10 USA...overall. worth the cost if you're doing a lot of miles. You may want to get a tuner, too.......not for increased power, but to avoid MANY check engine lights.....computer needs to know about the increased airflow . Otherwise, too many false alerts regarding airflow sensor failure. (Cost me a bundle before I figured that out). Better than cheating by using a cheap OBD reading to just cancel the false alert.
You should DEFINITELY DO MORE RV REVIEWS. Great video
no, they shouldn't
I LOVE that you guys did this RV testing. Please please more RV turning/testing!! I'm a full time rver and there's a lot of us!!
There is no wonder why you guys have so many subscribers - straight forward information from knowledgeable journalists with entertainment to boot! I had a 38' Class A with the 6.8 Ford and found it to be a capable engine, I just wasn't comfortable with the noise from the high rpm when pulling hills. I believe, like you guys showed, that the tuner would have made a big difference for me. Thanks for another great video!
That exhaust actually sounds pretty damn good.
Why? Because, ‘Merica! This is an awesome video!!! 🤘🏻
I would love to see you guys do this exact test with a diesel pusher model! More RV Tests!
When I drove a Uhual to help my Brother move the Uhual actually done better through Pennsylvania after I turned tow haul mode off.I got where I would build up speed on the way down hill to help me maintain speed going up the next hill.
This is something I'd like to see more of. I will be in the market for a gas class A in a few years.
This is very relevant to me.
This is awesome!
Tuning an RV, then running it on the dyno- Only Fast Lane Truck!
now you have to do a diesel pusher
Yeah that would be a very interesting comparison, particularly if they got one of a similar length and weight. As someone who may be buying a Class A in a few years I would love to see that. I already know I would prefer a diesel but there is huge price difference.
@@davva360 we rip passed gassers in our diesel pusher through the mountains. It's worth it
@@MW-gh3lt what engine/trans do you have?
can't wait for the new 7.3 RVs
Really not that big of an improvement, which is understandable for this NA engine. Need to go with a turbodiesel in this application if it's available. I appreciate the sponsor allowing you to test this anyways, and their EcoBoost tunes look great.
To get any performance increase the cost easily triple or quadruple from the factory. Meaning an L9 the B6.7 do not produce pickup type hp and torque numbers.
So, I have one of these. You didn't mention what went into the tune and how much it costs for the upgrade. That's a big factor when trying to decide whether to make the investment.
Are you thinking of a new channel "TFL RV". … I would watch it ;O)
Hell Yeah!
Yes I would also watch it and I think it could provide a lot of very valuable info to someone looking to buy a RV especially if they do towing test etc because it might make someone realise they don't need to spend another 100k on a RV to get a bigger engine so they can tow.
You picked the right Motorhome a Tiffin 36 LA great manufacture and the best floor plan in the gas lineup.
To bad the Quality is typical for today's employees, look at when they focused on the v 10 badge and the panel gap. 4:10 ish time
Oh, the possibilities with TFLRV. You could pit the Coachmen Crossfit/Beyond with the 3.7 against the 3.5 EcoBoost. Get with LTV and put a Sprinter with diesel against a Transit with diesel. Or see if there are any differences between Class A and Class C with V-10.
I occasionally drive a 2005 Chevy C8500 at work, and fully loaded at 33,000 lbs, I get a solid 75 second 0-60. (Almost completely flat at about 100ft above sea level.)
Thanks for posting your very through review. Results were less performance & gas mileage improvement than I would have expected with your 5 star tune up .
1996 Chevy 7.4L Fleetwood Flair, w/ 4.56:1 gears 0-60 stock 29.49 seconds. Banks Power Pack install, 0-60 22.58 seconds.
This is how you guys should test every truck. Towing Ike gauntlet, mpg, tuning, drag race in one video. I love it
This video is amazing. Doing tow tests and mpg testing would be great for all the racers who haul to the track.
The sheer amount of mass produced off the shelf parts is both hilarious and genuinely genius
I would love TFL RV, there's no channel like it out there
That stock run is nearly as bad as my school bus with a Cummins 6.7 turbo diesel, 0-60
This rv is still faster in the 1/4 mile then my 90 stock camaro tbi 5.0
Wow guys perfect timing. Thinking about going from our diesel pusher to a gas RV with a V10. I know performance is going to be dramatically different and glad to see the possibility of improving it. Maybe a mileage test on your 100 mile loop would be interesting? Also subscribe to many RV mags and websites and TFL is the first I've seen that did "Real world testing" on an RV! Keep up the great work you guys do and I'm ordering a T shirt!
Should have added another 3000lbs for water/gear/people when you're loaded up.
Watched this video. Bought the tuner for my 2019 Tiffin V10 gas, which struggled to maintain 70MPH on the highway and wanted to run at 67-68. After installation today, the RV runs comfortably at 73-75 MPH with the lightest press of the gas pedal. This tuner is fabulous. Acceleration off the line is so much improved. I disliked the V10 enough that I considered trading my 2019 for the new 2021 Tiffin (same model, 38 foot or the 36UA model), for the new 7.3L Ford V8. Dealer wants my coach plus $55,000.00 just to gain 30HP on the new V8. Well, I am so glad I tried the 5-Star tuner, as it made this RV more of a driver's machine. I won't be opting for the new 7.3L V8....this upgrade on the 6.8L V10 is good enough to be happy. BTW, this review is dead-on accurate and factual. It's exactly what you will obtain for the price of this tuner. Highly recommend.
What’s the price??
TFL I would love for you take one truck i.e. F150 and tow 3 different types of travel trailers all about the same weight and size but of the different styles a teardrop, a rounded nose, and a square nose and find out what, if any fuel saving these designs effect the truck's gas mileage. Thanks for your great work
I don’t have a motorhome yet but hope to in a year. I’ve been thinking of a shot of nitrous for hills and passing. Cheapest and easiest means of boosting power. Nitrous isn’t a “fuel”, by the way. It’s an oxidizer. Using a “wet” nitrous system includes an additional shot of gasoline along with the extra oxygen. The nozzles are on a plate that is inserted under the carb or behind the throttle body in EFI. A simple nitrous metering nozzle change gives you the added power for your needs in measured steps. Much simpler than a turbo or a Procharger.
Class A motorhomes are going to be beating 18-wheelers up the ike now
You should definitely continue to do RV reviews. Especially with the new 7.3 l Ford coming with new TVs starting 2020. This video came at the time I was considering to buy one. Great job.
its always cool to me that even ford trucks that were discontinued 15 plus years ago parts are still manufactured and used in modern day rvs and f650 plus size trucks, the dash is from a 2005 super duty in this rv even though it's a 2016 rv. I know demand is still there for old replacement parts for older trucks but a lot of parts used on new rv and f650 trucks can be found even from 2000 model trucks lol.
Well this nailed it for me. When I get an RV, it will be a converted city bus
Good oil, high flow air filter, archoil in fuel and oil and proper tire pressure is what you should do without modifications.
The torque improvement is pretty impressive. 👍🏽
Man you guys can make a video of any vehicle entertaining.
Was that almost a 50% drivetrain loss?
Yes, it’s pretty crazy.
@@TFLtruck part of that was altitude losses, correct?
That’s wild, chevy head lights and tail lights with a Ford powertrain
You are telling me Ford left efficiency on the table for some genius to find and market ?
I have a class C with the Trident V10 so I found this video very interesting. But, why don't you include what the Tuner cost?
I've been looking for this for my class A! I need this performed on my rig.
What is the cost of the tune? With a.3 mpg improvement how many miles would it take to pay for it? 🤔
Roman really set us up like something was going to happen... and then nothing happened lol. I used to have a motor home and the gas pump would max out at 80-100 dollars before the tank would fill up!!
Do it! TFL RV would be great!
Great vid! More RV videos! Also include travel trailers with tfltruck (not just cargo and horse trailers) as they tow fairly different.
I love how you too stood for a minute when you got out of the RV lol🤣🤣🤣🤣
Drove an e350 motor home with the v10 from Texas to Alabama loaded down. Dang good engine but thirsty all the time no matter what unless it’s off 😂
This was great! Can you please do the same thing with the F53 with a 7.3 when one becomes available? Love to see if the Godzilla really would be worth the wait over the tried and true 6.8!
175whp, 233 lb-ft from 6.8 v10 good job.
No wonder the Ford V10 has sucked in my first RV we had. It was either bogging down in low rpms or pissing and screaming at near redline to get anywhere.
Look at all the weight that motor is pushing though. That’s why it’s only getting that whp.
The Drive line lose on these chassis are nuts, most of it is the shitty torque convertor Ford loves to use.
It's a truck engine designed for longevity. As long as it can move that weight at a decent clip, it's a great engine choice (for a gasser).
Okay, so Cool video. Enjoyed. :)
I wasn't impressed with the tune... I mean only a few seconds at best, and a few tenth's of a gallon per mile gained... I don't know.. Maybe my expectations were to high.
I am not impressed at all by the tune .... at the best savings on gas $20 on 1k miles isn't worth at all in my opinion.
Agreed I hope to see bigger improvements! Gotta wonder if daily none mountain driving would be improved. A lotta money for small improvement is it worth it??
Do you plan on doing a test run with the new 7.3 engine in the F53 chassis that will be showing up on the dealer lots soon if not already. Word is Ford engineers finally got off the pot and redesigned some things on the chassis and a bigger engine, it only took about 24 years!! Well lets hope it works out for them. I like my 6.8 and plan to put a tune in it sometime in the future.
This makes you wonder why the engine doesn’t come from the factory with this state of tune. Could reliability/longevity be affected?
the new v10 has no knock sensor
They probably leaned out the fuel at highway cruising rpms which would cause more heat and wear in the cylinders and made the transmission gear changes more aggressive adding more reliability concerns. That being said they are just concerns, it could be so minuscule that it never matters or the opposite. No one for sure knows until its too late.
ECU isnt programmed for power but for emissions
I have 5 star tune on my vehicle and love it. It has made my truck more reliable, better performing, improved mileage, and much more comfortable to drive. I would never hesitate to recommend 5 star for anything.
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Does it shift better in the lower gears? My f53 doesn't shift well till I get to 3rd gear.
Banks makes a performance kit with headers, larger exhaust and intake. Install that and go faster still.
If I am going to operate something that size, I would want a diesel, no question about it.
Want and need are 2 different things. For ocassional use (not daily) gas is superior in terms of running cost and maintenance. Very DIY friendly and lower fuel costs
In case anyone is wondering what a stock one is like. My v10 class c E450 32ft gets about 6.5 mpg with my lead foot. No more than 7 anytime. It’s loud because it’s right next to you. They rev high a lot. On a flat highway it’ll do 75-80 but you should probably keep it lower than 70. Have done the same mountain as I’m in CO. When to the floor your going about 45 max. Then some ass in a piece of crap will get in front of you and you loose all momentum and you can’t pass because you can’t! I do like the Torqshift transmission though, especially on downhill. In tow/haul it senses that your going down and will downshift automatically to keep your speed down.
I’m sure the 7.3 gas will be a little better for power but not much.
my 6.7 Cummins turbodiesel diesel pusher gets 12 mpg and 8 mpg uphill and can comfortably cruise 70 mph on the highway
Someone I know had a diesel city bus converted to an RV and it weighed twice as much had 370 hp and not sure of the torque but I'd guess 1200 maybe and it would do rings around this thing... this thing get worse MPG than a loaded semi truck loaded with goods... that thing should be set on fire... that would be all it would be good for.
Murdoch that's the way to go. A fully loaded bus full of passengers has zero issues moving. It makes the perfect platform for an RV. It can haul ass full of people, that's a lot of weight
I love it! New Channel, Fast Lane RV. Let see it.
problem is all that comparison testing was done at the top of the power band where that tune doesnt do any good. That v10 runs like a dog at full throttle, it loves to be in the 2000-4000 range. used the same tuner on my f350 with v10. It hates full rpm towing. loves the 3000 rpm mark.
I would like to see a tune-up video on a diesel pusher preferably Cummins, I would like to see how much MPG can someone get out of a 40-footer lol.
What would be the MPG on your 98 miles loop ? i am adding my vote to TFL RV channel... or at least an Ike gaunlet test drive of the Class A, B and Cs.
I'd love to know if over a long trip if there is a tangible increase in MPG, I'm getting it simply for the better acceleration down low, 100 lbft improvement at 2100 rpm is significant, thanks for the video on this guys, bring us more like perhaps with a CAI even though I don't see that improving things much.
Curious how the tune would take advantage of a Banks full header back exhaust including high flow cat and some type of fully enclosed CAI. Sound difference as well? There are a lot of V10's in the world that sound awesome at full song.
Awesome video. I have a v10 and worried about what was needed.
Please test one with the GM 8.1 liter!
This video was Super exciting for me, thank you.
Great vid fellas👍who needs car n caravan when got boosted RV! Smoking
Wasn't expecting to see something like this. Nice. How about doing some mods and add some boost
I would so drag race a motor home. I couldn't help but think "I have lived"
You probably have a cramp in your right calf holding that tank on the carpet so long!!!! But what a great video. Nobody does these videos ever.
You have to turn the current vehicle back to stock to use the SCT on another vehicle. Also, for warranty. The dealer want's it stock.
I would watch TFLRV... just sayin
As those wonder if the hit of the test of a class A RV built on a F53 chassis with the triton V10 as the test unit was provided by the coach builder on the F53 chassis when the coach builder was using Silverado headlights and taillights. As those were onto something when they believe the hit of TFLRV was with help from five star tuning was to wake up the performance of the V10 and torq-shift when the company was to have files going as far back as 1997 when the triton family of engines first came out.
Daniel Libich uhh.....okay
What a great video! Thanks guys. I'll be buying the 5 Star tuner for my Class C Forest River with the V10.
Thanks for the very interesting review. I have virtually the same motorhome and this is really good.
Awesome, more RV testing please.
Manufacturers power ratings are at the crank not rear wheels but holy crap that's a huge difference in stock form between advertised and real world dyno.
I've heard class A's do not fair well in crashes.
Even a small car will tear one up. Class Cs are much safer if you ride up front.
The ones with back engine pusher motors are entertaining to watch catch fire when they overheat too.
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Can you do a review of a new F250 Lariat 6.2 gas 3.73 gear vs same truck with 4.30 gear?
In the market wanting your advice.
I started to liking your videos with that last big rig one and all that. Right on guys 👍
Looks like the SCT tuner I have for my F-250.
This is the way that you should do all of the Ike gauntlet mpg measurements. Relying on the dash “lie-o-meter” for mpg does not give an accurate pic. Also , ideally a dyno test should be done to make sure that the OEMs aren’t giving “tuned” trucks for the test (btw I really suspect that the Silverado 2.7L turbo was an OEM tuned truck .... especially with the low mpgs)
Seems like the improvement would be more for city driving starting and stoppin. And one thing I learned is if I get 1 of these it's gonna be a diesel
V10 Power train hmmmmmmm Hope the video changes my mind cummins or duramax would be much better or yes even a power stroke.
this was an awesome but random video, something that has been missing since the beginning TFL video's and has been slowly coming back during the past year or so. still love the channel, keep up with out there things like this. i would have to mention that the fuel mileage in something like this isint far off of the so called "eco" mpg's. i believe a 3.3ish towing and the brick is getting in the 4's, though up and down, dont see much "eco" in those new motors.
I think a more moderate road trip would really go a long way. No pun intended. This test was somewhat extreme for showing the tune improvements. Let's try a 30 mile loop over moderate interstate or highway!