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A few commenters have been pretty rude by saying how dumb we were for paying for repair work that didn’t fix the problem. None of those commenters took the time to ask intelligent questions about our situation. They just hurled insults. Long story short is that we chose to pay the bill versus having some long, drawn out argument with the shop which most likely would have led to them holding our coach hostage. We chose to fight the battle a different way by filing a dispute with our credit card company. Thanks to those of you who actually care enough to make positive, supportive comments!
Lyf Uninterrupted don't know about American law but I'm pretty sure that here in the u.k you can't hold onto someone else's property as I know of mechanics who haven't been paid and tried holding the car until they got paid and the police said that they had to release the car as it would have been classed as theft even though they still wouldn't pay the repair bill the police sided reluctantly with the car owners and said to pursue it through the courts as it was a civil case, the law is a ass as a famous author wrote, authorities siding with the ones stealing from the mechanic
We chose to handle this situation with the least amount of stress as possible. Laws vary by state here In the US and recourse is all over the place. Thanks for watching!
To all the idiots who said they should have never paid the repairs....this is how smart people handle their problems. Great win for you guys....happy it worked out for you.
Thanks for your entertaining, and informative, videos. We have full-timed for 7 years now. Our class C, V10, has just passed 105,000 miles. I do oil changes, most top side repairs based on engine codes etc. We have been very lucky, with only three roadside issues. Two flat tires, fixed by mobile repair companies, and a mass airflow problem, which I fixed. I do a lot of preventative things when we are in longer term camp situations. (Alternator, starter, serpentine belt, spark plugs…) Now I’m thinking about water pump, fuel pump, and the like. You are so right about emergency funds, even though we have not used ours. Based on your experiences, we are going to up the amount, and the insurance suggestions are appreciated. My point is to stay ahead of problems as much as possible. And you’re right, stay calm!!
Hi Del! Sounds like your well versed and mechanically inclined. These are important skills to have when faced with major issues while on the road. Thanks for tuning in!
I sure feel for your guys, wow this has been a test of patience and keeping your cool under extremely stressful conditions. I sold my trailer and bought a 24' Mercedes B+ Motorhome because I didn't want to have to deal with the towing aspect. I can sure see how having a Motorhome can be a "negative" when you have engine troubles as there goes your home! I'm not from the U.S. but think it is awesome that you both are sharing pertinent information that may help others. All the best to you both, hopefully you will get this problem figured out soon and be back on the road with peace of mind and safely!
We have be RVING for 15 years, not full time, but most of the time. Just can't seem to let go of the garden. We had an amazing fifth wheel with all the bells and whistles but felt the need to down size and bought a class C. My biggest fear was the dreaded break down where we would find ourselves homeless with our dogs while our RV was in for repair. You two have helped to ease that fear. Love your videos, they are so true to the RVING experience. You have a new fan!
i see a lot where the pvc piece under the valve cover came on glue that on the inside of the valve cover that falls down on the rocker arms making it so like u have a rod knock or a piston knock ford should recall this they took u for a ride i have seen 6 of this problem
Simply put the RV community is some of the greatest people I’ve met in your situation my Rexall has a V 10 as well and I have been extremely fortunate running with the same miles 47,000 no problems to date I hope things now are going much better for you and that you enjoy your lives
UPDATE! We made to from Jacksonville to Arizona in one piece. The engine is still knocking but running just fine otherwise. We are taking it to an shop this Friday that specializes in these V10! Stay tuned for more updates.
Haveing several years of automotive and heavy equipment repair experience knowing how far you drove with the knock I would be very surprised that you would have a serious engine problem if it was a terminal problem I doubt you would have driven that far without a catastrophic failure.
Bestia13 Unfortunately it isn’t a lifter problem as this engine doesn’t have lifters. It has lash adjusters, which were replaced but the knocking remains.
@Zooman X i agree and why buy a vehicle you plan on driving for hundreds of thousands of miles with a gas motor, diesel motor's just getting broken in around those miles lol.
Yep.. this is why I tow a trailer.. Toyota breaks down, take the trailer to the nearest RV park and have the truck fixed and I still have my home... if I have problems with the trailer, I still have my tow... But I feel for ya.. because I only have so much money in savings too. Not enough for a 10k motor.
Thx LYF U for informative video sorry to hear of your misfortune. HM2CW on why I have a TV and trlr which I hope never has a similar experience but Mr. Murphy has a way of showing up at the most inopertune moment. While working at a So Cal Cat dlr and Onan distributor I saw the impact of breakdowns on owners who's travel plans were interrupted when their house on wheels had to go in for repairs. Any GM dealership knows how and has tools/parts to repair my Sierra 3500 and most tow vehicles can get it there. YMMV Happy Camping
I know it's already a difficult situation. Try to ignore the bs you find in the comments. Unless someone's been there they don't know how stressful it is to have your home and vehicle crap out out all at once. Remember, these jokers are at home doing NOTHING...anyone who participates in online harassment is sick. Their lives are SO uncomfortable that they have to insult you to feel better. Really sorry all this happened. At least ppl are watching your experience and you're getting your content out there. Thanks for the video and good luck, stay safe!😊🇺🇸🏞✌
thanks for your vid.i just subscribed i have a 2000 f53 with v10 with 67k no problems so far. we are also full timers for the past year I'll be watching to see how things go for you.GOD bless
So sorry to hear commenters are so rude, bless you for sharing your wonderful adventure and mishaps .. hope you find the good comments , and just read those ignore the rudeness ..they are just jealous …or not really educated in this thing we called life ……..wonderful people … thank you. For sharing
Thank you both for your honesty, you have Helped so Many with sharing your real experiences with such openness. Much Respect and wishing you both All the Best from Australia
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I feel your pain. Been there, done that! The silver lining was that I got a much newer, updated RV. But my heart still sinks when it makes a sound I don't recognize.
I recently purchased a 2004 coachmen class a rv with an F550 chassis, same triton v10 motor. I don't plan on driving cross country, but if you haven't purchased one already, get an odb-ii bluetooth adapter and use an app called torque with your smartphone. You can troubleshoot lots of issues with one of these. Sounds like you checked everything that could cause that knocking. Maybe it was bad gas, I've had a similar issue in the past with bad gas on my F150 truck. Could also check the main bearings if they are worn out.
I did see a v10 with a broken valve spring in a bucket truck also caused the tapping sound...with 160000 miles..also just to make sure we are on the same page...v8 engines have phasers..v10 engine have a balance shaft-on the left bank only...checking all cam followers and roller arms is time consuming..it only takes one to fail to make that noise...hope this helps
Good advice! We had tranission trouble with a prior MH while travelling 3000 miles from home. We were fortunate to find a good shop that got us back on the road within a couple of days. Staying calm and having resources for such things is essential, including roadside service.
I'm very sorry you had to endure that episode. We live in Phoenix and had we known of your predicament, wold have offered any assistance to make your stay here as smooth as possible. I'm happy that you are still able to wander and wish your Life Uninterrupted for the foreseeable future.
Very disheartening to hear no one can assist you. It is ridiculous that no one out there can service your equipment. That is my biggest fear owning a motor home . My hat is off to you for not losing it !
I have a 2004 Triton V10 in my F250 with 210,000 miles (Wyoming ex oil field) and it runs perfect. Your hoses look terrible compared to my originals. I have never replaced the serpentine belt or any hoses. Never been to the shop for anything. I consider the V10 an incredible engine
Thanks for watching. I agree! The Triton V10 is a very good engine. I get a lot of people think otherwise, but most don’t own them but just want to rag on Ford. Glad yours is serving you well. The hoses are all good. I think what you’re referring to is the outer protective cover on the PCV valve hose that is beginning to deteriorate.
Yupp! I too had a 2003 f250 with the V10 and the only problem I had was that the spark plug was spitting up from the valve. Although, it can be a simple repair.
Thank you so much for ur insights on repair shops since I'm having an electrical ignition issue w the E-450 chassis on my Thor Four Winds motorhome< Luck has it I did make it back home after 9 months away from my MN home first yr retired, but the last few nights away before arriving home the alternator didn't seem to be charging the deep cycle house batteries or run anything while driving, so I replace those deep cycles after getting home, still NO 12V power worked w/o being plugged into shore power @ my house>>> But here is where some luck came in, when I tried starting up the engine up here @ home, it ran rough & then wires by the battery started to smoke!!!! This is definitely a E450 FORD issue? After replacing the deep cycle batteries & the main disconnect switch & smoke coming off the wires on the chassis battery, I even used my fire extinguisher to be safe there was that much electrical smoke, no flames though, but WHEW if this woulda happened while on the ROAD, ouch! Camping World I bought it @ recommended a repair shop but my 30ft motorhome will need to be towed there from outta my driveway< Thanks again for ur insights, I was planning on selling my house going full timer, but my old employer of nearly 40 years, an injection molding company, & they'd like this molding engineer to come back to work for a few years if I could, I am still only 60 years old :) Thanks for the making this video & ur repair shop insights 💯
Good news, BTW, my son has a2006 F150 that's been ticking like that for the last 100000 miles, still runs great just ticking. He didn't want to spend money on it. Good luck.
I just checked with wholesale warranties and they do not cover 2004 and older. So we’ll have to look someplace else. But FMC does and for our motorhome it will be $85 a year. So that is not bad at all. Thank you for your video. Very informative.
So glad you ended up be ok. Staying calm about the engine getting fixed or not worked out good. Sorry to hear about your Rv. Good thing it lasted after going a lot of miles. I see that there’s a part 2 of the engine I will watch it. Till next time stay safe. Safe travels.
I have heard stories like this before. One couple had to have their rig towed from North Western Montana to Wyoming ($$$) That is why I chose a 5th wheel. Good luck to you both.
Thanks for sharing. On all of our travels throughout the US we’ve seen far more trailers and 5th wheels broken down on the side of the road than any other type of RV. Not sure why. Perhaps because there are more of those on the road than any other type of RV?? Every type of RV has its issues thats for sure.
I had what I believe was the same problem (or at least the noise sounds the same) they replaced the manifold gasket and no more noise. $350 It will be interesting to see what they come up with. All the best to both of you and wishing many trouble free miles.
Captain Fatty what you explained sounds like you had a exhaust leak that does sound sorta like theirs but theirs has a metal tick to it . I had one make this tick before and it was the wrist pin ( the rod that holds the piston rod to the piston)It had worn out and created a tick but it still ran. There was small specks of metal in the oil so it wouldn’t have ran much longer. I would suggest to them to change the oil and look for any metal if any is found you will need a new motor. Good luck guys 👍👍
Yikes!! Significant engine troubles.....definitely one of the biggest concerns on the road! Thank you for covering some of the many things to mitigate concerns while traveling!! Stay healthy!!
I lived in Alaska for two winters, 2001-03, in Fairbanks. Lots of RVs lumber up the Alcan every year, and the mechanic I took my old Chevy s-10 to also had the heavy stuff to work on these - they said that RVs were tough to work on, not because of the mechanical stuff, but because it’s basically someone’s HOME. It make sense too.
First of all, I wish you well in your travels. I am on my fourth year living in an RV, on a very limited disability pension. I am a retired Heavy Vehicle mechanic Buses and Trucks as well as passenger vehicles. My first action would have been to pull the Valve cover and check the valve train with the engine running, compressing rockers and inspecting springs, pushrods, and lifters. after which, this would give me a better understanding of the problem, or source of the tapping, [the valve cover echoes too much to determine problem] If I didn't find the problem at the top end, then I'd pull the oil pan and check bottom end bearing and Con Rods. All of which I would do myself with my on-board tool kit. [sorry but I'm old school] at whatever place I could, parking lot, or side of the highway. As others have said, the noise over the video is always difficult to use to diagnose the problem. That is why it is a must to do as much of the diagnostics as you can [if you have the expertise] In know nothing about the V10 engines, but all engines are fundamentally the same. As a further note, In your case with such a vehicle, I would take it to a shop that works on Buses and trucks, as they would have the equipment to service your Coach. I wish you good fortune.
Very sorry to hear of your engine issues ,the related costs and hassles. The Ford V10 is still used in 2021 Motorhomes a busses , but not in their pickups ?? I have one in a F250 4x4 , 180000 miles and love it. It has seldom had to work hard. You guys are doing a great job, of candid, honest advice, although I need to study on that composting toilet a bit more. I just bought a new 29 ft travel trailer. We will not be living in it , but traveling, camping etc, I am thankful to hear, and learn from your videos. Thank you.
This is an important consideration when buying an RV. I like having a truck and trailer. You break down and you can still stay in your trailer when your vehicle is in the shop. If something is wrong with my trailer, I still have the truck besides I can choose to buy a diesel truck to pull it. I’m not a fan of the 454 and 460 engines in those motorhomes besides when you buy a used one you always want to find out how long they’ve been sitting which can be a guessing game. At least a truck I drive it daily and a trailer can sit for a long time. I’m someone who works a lot and likes to camp once in a while and do a bit of RVing and my trailer does sit in indoor storage in the winter to protect from damage
I just renewed my FMCA Roadside Rescue great to know it works, we travel full time in our 2007 National Sea Breeze no V-10 problems going on 8 years and 60,000 miles knock on wood:)
Best wishes on your engine. Be sure to do regular oil changes and use the Ford specified oil & filter. Ours had regular oil changes and maintenance but something still failed.
@@LyfUninterrupted I agree, yes I have used Motorcraft oil and filters from the beginning, usually every 3,000 miles 4,000 at the most.....safe travels!
I’ve got a diesel pusher as well. Who do you recommend for warranty or towing? We have AAA RV but that’s it. We threw a driveshaft leaving the desert one day. Luckily I’m mechanically inclined and got it handled in an hour. Then a manifold cracked and the bolts broke off. Did that one myself as well. But if we ever have a major issues I’d love a recommendation for when the poo hits the fan. Best of luck to you both. New follower.
My wife and I had a couple of RV's over the years. Did not go full time. These "big ticket" RV's will cost a fortune to fix, in most cases. We had to opt out of the system. Was fun, but we didn't want to end up stranded. Thanks for your video - was very interesting. Thanks.
Not a piston slap, but my guess is a bad rod bearing. Take a stethoscope to bottom side of running engine. This should give you your answer. Your good friend Vinny in good old Fla.
Thank you for the feedback. The rig is currently in the shop undergoing repairs. We can't wait to update the video with the diagnoses. So many guesses. Thank you for watching!
Are you guys still full time? Sorry about your V10 engine problem. We had an Rv with over 140,000 miles and it ran great. We live in Mesa Az & want another RV. GOOD LUCK & BE SAFE. 👍🙏👋🏻
Hard to diag exact on a video, but 100% that is not a exhaust manifold leak or lifter/tappet based on the speed of the noise. I'm a master tech and have over 15 years experience 8 years of RV experience in NY. If your dipstick is clean and doesn't look metalic at all I would check your flexplate/flywheel being cracked. If that had a bad bearing after a couple hundred miles of rv duty that motor would be toast. I have diagnosed plenty of other misdiagnosis of engine knocks due to being a cracked flywheel. I can think of over a dozen people I have saved over the years from not doing a engine replacement. There is a access cover on the lower part of the transmission for the torque converter bolts, I use a scope/flex camera to inspect the area where the flywheel bolts to the crankshaft.
This is great information. I was thinking about checking the flexplate but dismissed it. I’ll see if I can take a look at it. I did drain a bit of oil from drain pan valve and it appears to be fine. No metallic look to it or shiny bits of metal. We just got into Arizona and engine is running fine apart from the knock. Did 65-70 mph the entire way from Jacksonville to Arizona with no problems. I did notice that the tranny did have a couple of shifting issues but nothing alarming.
@@LyfUninterrupted To make that trip with a bad rod, main bearing or loose wrist pin is like 99.9% unlikely unless you have the worlds best broken engine!! I would be willing to bet alot that you have a cracked flywheel around the crank flange or loose torque converter nuts. On the bright side that repair should be under $1500 and 1 full day down at any desent repair shop with a large 4 post lift.
I am retired master technician, the cracked flex plate is a very likely result. This can be determined with limited disassembly. The biggest cause of failed repair attempts is the person attempting to make the repairs simply doesn't know how to make a proper inspection before work is started. The places that change more are often cheaper because they know what they are about. A repair that is not guaranteed to correct the problem is of no value. While I was working if I failed to solve the problem first attempt working in a Dealership. I was required to solve the problem for free. So I always did everything possible to determine exactly what was wrong before I spend any money beyond change for inspection. In my home state the vehicle must be returned to the owner in similar condition as it was received if repair estimated was not accepted. So I was the person with the highest risk every day not the customers.
This is the best advice I have seen...I too note that the modulation of the ticking does not change ruling out internal failure...I had a similar ticking on a 5.3L Chevy having to replace lifters...although it was easier to diagnose as modulation changed with rpm...I would check for vacuum leaks or air intake pumps as well
Man you mentioned Orlando and then a few miles up and then you ended it with Bainbridge ga... I always go up the road to Bainbridge once a year around this time for sweet corn season 6 weeks of a different scenery, but this year they put me on a different task and I couldn't go hopefully next year I can go to good ole Bainbridge ga
I learn the hard way too...No gas engine class A had same problem no ford dealership could work on the Class A I just traded mine on a used Pusher class A with a cat engine and freightliner chassis If I had any problems with the drive train I can take to any freightliner dealer and they can fix it and boy I'm I glad, Had a fuel injector go bad and just got lucky to find a dealer in Greensboro NC to fix it. I was told that any freightliner dealership could fix any drive train or chassis problem coast to coast.
The V-10 is can overall good engine. I had one in my class C and it worked great. We brought a 40' Class A this year and I went with the Cummins diesel. Mostly because I spent most of my life owning and fixing them in semis. I can fix, cobble, jury-rig, anything on my engine and am thankful for being able to. I feel your pain with finding shops on the road and being let down time and again. I know I'm not there and haven't looked at your rig but I'm betting the fellow who mentioned the intake gasket is right on the money. I know the v-10's have some issues with the intake? My fingers are crossed for you. Good luck and safe travels!
FWIW As a retired truck driver I have seen some horrible repair bills for Diesels. When I bought our Class A I chose to stick with gas and I too have the F53 chassis with the Triton V10 and, I'm like you, I do most of the repairs myself. I have the ZF Parking brake system on my bench right now rebuilding it while the Coach sits over the winter. Please keep us updated as to what actually happened FWI ....B.C. to Arizona and back twice.---> B.C. to Saskatchewan and back twice --->B.C. to Alaska and back----> many shorter trips around B.C. and the coach has never been to a shop since I bought it. Good luck!!
So sorry for your troubles. If you had a diesel, like we do, it would be a $30k replacement. Will you try to find a good shop when you get to Phoenix? You bought the coach to save money so if you are satisfied with it get the engine repaired/replaced, you are still ahead compared to buying new.
You're probably helping out others with your progress reports on this. Excellent pros commenting on here - I can tell they are trying their best to help out. I have been putting a nano oil additive in my suv to get rid of a jingling sound and it worked - old car. I checked on the product to see if it would work for your Class A, but don't think it will. Darn! Wish you all the best!
Hope the engine issues are resolved without too much more difficulty. I have the V8 Triton in my class C and it’s kind of a noisy engine, but it runs a lot quieter on premium. Safe travels.
Just treat the engine well and it will serve you well. Do Regular oil changes and don’t forget that according to Ford, the V10s can burn up to a quart of oil every 1000 miles, so be sure to check it regularly.
One thing I learned being a former Class A owner is that you have to have a pretty deep wallet to own one. I don't care if it is a gasser or a pusher, the cost of ownership is pretty steep and the company's that can work on these rigs are not as prevalent. Brakes, Engine work, tire replacement, batteries are all things that will need repair and they are expensive. I am sorry for your issues and you did the best you could with the resources you had available. Unless you are a certified and experienced Ford Truck Technician, you have now way of knowing that was wrong with that engine and apparently the shop you went to was as equally perplexed. My first question was did they check your oil pressure and was it in specification (an external pressure gauge tool and not the inaccurate gauge that is on the rig)? Did they drain the oil and look at it for metallic flakes or even small metallic shavings? Did they drop the pan before they pulled the heads to inspect the lower end? Does the knock get louder, disappear or otherwise change when you raise the RPM's. Someone mentioned, and I have heard, that a flywheel can provide the same noise, but I have only heard of this and never experienced it. It is for sure not valve or exhaust header gasket noise (I could tell that from the audio via youtube). I guess the upside is this is cheaper than replacing an HVAC system, Roof or septic system on a Bricks and Sticks :-). I agree that a crate motor at this point with a factory warranty may be a better choice than a rebuild at a local shop. You don't know what you are getting and getting any kind of warranty work once you leave the area is next to impossible. Some local shops refresh and only replace the parts that are damages and do not necessarily re-machine the crank surfaces, etc. At least a crate motor should be like or better than new.
Thanks! We appreciate your advice. I did drain some oil and it looks fine to me. No metallic appearance of material that I could see. The shop didn’t remove the head they just replaced the valve lash adjusters. Taking it to an engine shop next week.
In 2018 the valve spring for the #2 valve in the #7 cylinder failed. The engine ran but we had the dreaded restricted acceleration. It was towed to a Ford dealer, and although they couldn’t work on it they confirmed the engine was “blown.” We then had it towed to a Ford commercial vehicle service center and the engine was replaced (it took about a week). After getting the coach back, we were on a trip and the cabin filled with radiator steam. Ford sent out a mobile mechanic and fixed the problem. Turns out we got a new engine but the mechanic used the old hose clamps, which failed. Fortunately, the engine replacement was under warranty.
Hi guys it dumb that people make rude comments about paying for repair work that didn't fix the problem. You were a long way from home and at the mercy of mechanics that say they know what they are doing. I would fight the charge card as it sounds like you are doing. Best wishes. I hope the mechanic will compromise somehow with a fair figure.
So sorry for your problem. Years ago I had the dream to travel full-time, selling the house. We ended-up just taking long vacations and returning home. Had a gas class A with no problems. If we did go full-time, I would have traded up for a diesel pusher for sure.
Thanks, John. Something we've learned after being on the road for over 3 years now is that there are pros and cons to having any type or RV. We have many friends with DP's and the common theme expressed by everyone is that they VERY costly to repair and maintain properly. Also, gas mileage is about the same as our V10.
Sorry guys. Vehicle problems or worries are no fun! Can you have a Tiffin dealer check it out? We are south of DFW 60 miles if you find yourself stranded....
@LyfUninterrupted lol that stuff is a easy fix but I understand people don't like touching engines but there's millions of videos on UA-cam how too fix it
I had a family member who had an RV with that V10, the unit eventually gave out and he went on to swap a Cummins 6.7 Diesel into it (i believe it was out of a crashed RAM truck), not an issue since then, and it's got plenty of power for the RV it's in.
I had a friend about to buy a class A with a Ford V-10 in it that had once upon a time been a rental. I drove it and shot it down two blocks from the dealership. Problem being a main bearing noise that would come on in the power band at the time of shift (Around 2200-3000 RPM) or so. The problem with a Motorhome of any kind is that at the start and end of every day, they're a fully loaded truck. The Drive trains have to be babied as much as possible. Don't try to drive them like an indy car. People do and that puts far too much wear and tear on them and they'll fail prematurely. I have a 460 Ford in my Class C and I just putt it around from place to place and fortunately it's still rock solid. Whatever you do, DO NOT REBUILD that engine and put it back in, replace it with a crate motor from Ford, then baby it.
Thanks for this info! We usually drive it 55-60 mph max and try to not load it too heavily. That said, one would expect to be able to drive the coach as it was intended to be driven.
Good advice, “stay calm”. Good to see you received the necessary support yet most unfortunate you spent a good pile of $ with no resolution. Hopefully you will find an economical & timely resolution.
My wife and I spent the summer in a gas v 10 triton visiting the capitols...loved our engine performance and feel your pain. We pay and trust the Lord to cause things to work for good. Praying for your situation as you deal with each day...it is awesome to feel free enough to go where we want when we want...best wishes as you get through this
Had my brand new Catalina Puma burn out a wheel bearing. We'd only been full timers for a few weeks. Turned out the manufacturer, LCI, didn't bother putting more than a drab of grease in any of the 4 hubs. They sent out a new axle, and paid the cost of our stay, but we were marooned at a crappy Kansas rural RV park for 20 days while they shipped the axle to us. So far, the biggest problem we've experienced.
Even brand new rigs can have significant problems. This is what we tell people all the time when they say we should get rid of our 2008 coach and buy a new one.
Hope you find the problem. Stuff like this is no fun. Having complete systems in one unit is why I have stayed away from Class A’s or C’s although I know there are many rolling with no problems. I am by myself so a small TT like a. Cherokee Wolf Pup suits me fine pulled by a small Dodge truck with a big V8. However I certainly see the advantages and comforts of what you have. Sounds like you will get this figured out soon and be back on the adventure road with the rest of us. You are earning your RV stripes for sure. Wishing you good fortune!!!
Well I hear that Motorhomes are quite similar to yachts and that means it's always being tinkered with, but, as things get repaired the history is logged and the coach becomes more like home. I think this happens quite a bit with new/used RV's. Hopefully it's better this year!
WOW!!! that was very good information but it began to sound like a commercial. You never mention what was wrong with the engine and that is why I watched the video.
Thanks for watching. We never mentioned what is wrong because we don’t know yet. It’s in the shop being torn down to find out what the problem is. Stay tuned for an update next week.
Really great videos of your RV life! And so sorry you had the engine problems you had with the motorhome. That’s one of the reasons I have always preferred a truck and fifth wheel because any dealer can work on my truck engine and they’re everywhere. But a motorhome is really nice and convenient too. I just came across your channel I look forward to watching some more of your great videos. Thanks.
Consider checking with Sanderson Ford in Glendale, AZ (Northwest Phoenix Valley). They sell large Ford commercial vehicles so they may be able to work on yours or at least recommend a shop. Sorry to hear of your problem. My two biggest concerns with a travel trailer are getting in severe weather (hail and high winds) and having some texter hitting me! Thanks for the tips. Does the FMCA coverage also apply to a tow vehicle? I understand you are no longer required to own a motorhome to join.
Correct! FMCA now welcomes members with towables! Our understanding is that the roadside rescue covers the RV and tow vehicle, but we recommend you double check with FMCA.
We were very pleased with Sanderson Ford Commercial Truck repair. On I-10 in AZ, we blew the High Pressure Air Conditioner line for the engine A/C. We found out that "ONLY" the Ford Commercial Truck Dealers will or have the capabilities to work on the Class A. We have a V-10, 3 valve. Our issue was a rub through on the HP Line from the hose rubbing against a "reversed" rivet on the passenger side. Look for this rascal so you don't go through the same headache. Anyway, we have been very pleased with the Ford V-10, we have driven over 25,000 miles with no issues (fingers crossed and knock on wood), When we head out of Florida at Christmas, heading to San Diego, we will have almost 70,000 great miles on our unit. Great to hear that you are back on the road but i want to hear what caused the tapping as "I" to would have called a tow truck.
I am considering going on the road and this was very helpful. I think i am going to go with a trailer or 5th wheel. It sounds easier to service or replace a tow vehicle over the entire rig.
Prior to watching this video - I watched one of gas vs diesel pusher RV. That owner went with the Ford Triton because of being able to easily find a mechanic, that he could go to any Ford dealer and get assistance. Well you proved that wrong. My biggest concern is not getting an engine with enough power for mtns. Our daughter has moved to Pueblo CO and son lives in Schenectady NY - both require going over and thru mtns. I think a DP because of the road engine noise. Thoughts? Look forward to watching your next video that it was fixed. We currently own a 2002 Workhorse winnebago Brave 30' - love love love this layout, BUT it has been in the shop for 3 mo with Reduced Engine Power (possible throttle pin, not sure) only has 11500 mi on it, interior is like new like the 30' we will flat tow a Jeep. THx
They all have their issue for sure. One thing we’ve learned is to not be in a hurry. Not a big deal for us to take it slow and easy up steep grades. We have friends with diesel coaches. One had to replace the engine at a cost of $20K and another had a fuel pump replaced at a cost of $8K. New gas coaches are starting to get the new Ford 8 cylinder engine which is supposedly much better option than the V10.
We had our excursion catch on fire pulling our brand new MPG 3100bh travel trailer. Like you say you have to keep calm and not lose your mind lol. 4k later and 6 days back on the road home. You'll get it sorted out. Be safe out there
Chris Ludwig We had a small fire in our Jeep due to overheated brakes. Put it out on the side of the road quickly but the damage was done. $1000 repair bill. We carry extinguishers in all vehicles as well.
Ford is replacing the V10 with a new design OHV v8.. it is 7.3 liter ...however...don’t jump on it the first year they are introduced..give it a year or so ..let them work the bugs out....
I don't care what anybody else says and should you all. My wife and I talked about having an RV selling out and just traveling. I used to be a racecar driver and builder for 45 years when I heard your motor and what it was doing the two things that came to my mind either collapsed lifter or that side part of the engine wasn't getting the lubricant of the oil. Or a slight push rod with those something like that out of adjustment or collapsed valve spring. Any of those things can go wrong even on my race car the motor. Build I've had that same sound after racing. I have found out mostly that's collapsed lifter collapsed valve spring or slight bent pushrod. I hope you all and I prayed I hope you guys got it fixed and found out what it is please let me know how curious, I subscribe the follow up on you all see how things go God bless you enjoy your trips Merry Christmas
Did the shop in Jacksonville drop the oil pan and inspect the crank bearing s ??? Sounds like they just worked on the top end. God Bless in the future. Good luck.
Brings back similar memories where had a knock like this that turned out to be a bad exhaust manifold gasket. The leak on just that cylinder sounded just like a knock and had we not found a mechanic who really knew what he was doing, we would have been out what the others wanted to charge with 1000's in repairs.
That’s the first thing I looked for. Had a Ram pickup that had a broken manifold bolt and the tick, tick, tick. This was much more pronounced and metallic. Check out our follow up video called “It’s Done” to see what the issue was.
@@LyfUninterrupted I have been looking into maybe going with a used cruise America unit I figure the price is good enough that it wont hurt the pocketbook as much as buying new or if I buy a used unit that literally falls apart on me
A quick trip to Colorado turned into a two week stay in Colorado, over heated thinking something small and it turned out to be the engine threw a rod , lucky we were still under the Ford warranty with the V10 engine @ 11000 miles ! New valves and a bunch of other stuff as well as the trip interruption coverage , I had hotel points accumulated and that alone covered our stay in a hotel ! Feel your pain brother !
They did reduce the labor and parts cost. We just wanted to get our motorhome back. We’ll fight the battle with the shop after the fact. Otherwise we might not have gotten our rig back until we paid. Thanks for watching!
Well, sitting here in my PJ at the table, I can say that you made some mistakes! Sad to hear someone having issues with their Motor Home! Happy to hear you made it worked! When you are in the juice, you do what you can with what you have! Love picking up from other people experience and put it in our bank! Thanks for all your info!😎😎😎
Had a number of years as an auto mechanic (ASE certified master technician) with BMW, Volvo Master Tech, Nissan, and Saturn Certified Tech. You didn't post what was the final diagnosis that found the failed component, so I'm gonna throw out my 'best guess' as to what's going on with that lovely tapping noise in the left cylinder head. Since the valve lifters ride directly on the camshafts in the cylinder head, I'm betting on a failed hydraulic lifter or perhaps a broken valve spring, leaning towards the lifter because of the age of the engine and that up until you decided to go full time, the engine sat unused for periods of time. Sitting idle is not good for modern engines. Some commenters think a cracked flexplate / flywheel. I'm disagreeing on that, because of where the noise is originating and that the interval between 'taps' is too long for the flywheel idea which would be more of a continuous or more rapid tapping as it goes as fast as the crankshaft rotates which is way faster than your tapping rate which is in sync with when a single cylinder fires as the engine runs. Also, a bad lifter would have allowed you to drive all that distance without the engine having a catastrophic failure. And with a cracked flywheel / flexplate, I suspect that when cranking the engine, there would have been some unusual noises because of the starter causing that supposed crack to flex as the stress of cranking the engine worked on it.
Sorry to hear about your problem, I have a V10 , it's considered a tough engine, you need to look around for a good engine rebuilder, $10.000 seems a little pricey, you can get a V10 long block from Ford for around $3.000. Good luck. That's just the block not the parts.
If Ford is not gonna work on these things at their dealership then they should not sell it to the camping industry. I also have a Triton v10 motor in my motor home and I wonder what would happen if it was to break down on road. I used to work on heavy equipment mostly Detroit's ,Cummins ,Cats. Any Ford dealership could work on these things they just don't want to. I've had to crawl on my belly like a reptile to work on diesels in the back of buses. Ford just wants to sell they just don't want to work on them.
Agreed! This is a world of diagnosis by “part swapping” due to the growing complexity of vehicles. Not sure mechanics are even taught how to troubleshoot these days.
Lyf Uninterrupted ahh yes especially in the rv world because they sit so much. Diesel need to be worked and they are sensitive to their fuel And as you’ve found out triton 3 valves are garbage motors.
Kevin Tanner Hmmm...is it because RVs sit so much or that Triton motors are garbage? I think the issue is that we mostly hear about the negatives when it comes to things like this. We’ve had far more people reach out that have had a great experience with the Triton V10 than not. You can’t simply focus on the failures, discount all the engines that never have had problems, then come to the conclusion that the Triton V10s are garbage.
Lyf Uninterrupted gasoline motors are better for rvs because of the amount of time they sit. Every 3 valve triton engine I’ve been around died an untimely death. Maybe you’ll have better luck but I doubt it. I’ve know roughly 12 of them and all had total engine failure. We had a 550 that got two motors from ford in 120,00. That to me is garbage. The 2 valve ones are fine we have a fleet of them at work other than they make no power. Personally I prefer the Ls style GM engine because they have push rods Just my opinion
Kevin Tanner Duly noted. Thanks for your Input. We’re taking our rig to a V10 specialist in Phoenix next week. BTW.:. we drove our rig from Jacksonville to Arizona with no problems. The engine still knocks to the same degree it did in Florida. That would tell me it’s nothing too serious. Rod bearings or something in the bottom end of the engine would probably have let loose we’ll before now.
Ah hah! We don't know yet. The rig is in the shop and we'll do an update video once the problem's diagnosed and we get the rig fixed. Thank you for watching!
Oh geez. As the saying goes, it can always be worse, though, at the time, it doesn't always help. Great advice! Hoping for a quick repair and a safe return to Phx! Keep up posted how it went!
Thanks Dean! Yeah, the thought of such an expensive repair is not easy to wrap our heads around. With such low mileage on the engine it just never was much of a concern. Even though it was a fear of ours, we never really thought it would be realized.
V10 in both 3 valve and 2valve dont have cam phasers. The 5.4 has vvt, ergo cam phasers. Ive worked on several v10s and just recently did an engine replacement on a 2000 excursion. No cam phasers on it. If you go to rock auto and look at 5.4 timing kit they have phasers, but the v10s dont.
Thank you. Great info. I'm full timing in my 6th year in my 99 35' Class A Georgie boy. It's one of those V10's with the short threads in aluminum heads for the spark plugs. One common issue on these was the plug blowing out of the hole, steel plug body, and aluminum head with only 3 or 4 threads. What happens is the aluminum threads seize to the steel plug and every plug Change removes a little bit of aluminum until finally there aren't any threads left hold the plug and it blows out violently. Ok, so here I am, in remote northern New mexico, about 100 miles out of Albuquerque when suddenly I'm startled buy a very loud BANG! bang, bang, bang.....on and on. I Got to the side of the highway ok and at idle this bang is bad. Pulling the dog house, I couldn't see an issue with just a glance, but in starting up, it was obvious with this spark plug bouncing up and down, destroying the plug and the coil over it. It absolutely could not be run this way. Lucky to be towing my Ford Ranger..... Looked up the closest auto parts store, 40 miles south as it turned out, drove in to pick up a coil and plug. I got very lucky (this time), the new plug held with the remaining threads, and I made it to my destination in Sun Valley. 9 months go by. I kinda forgot about it somehow, I'm heading east on US 60 approaching Show Low AZ, on a steep, high torque hill when thar BANG reminded me I had a bad plug hole I forgot to address, only this time it won't stay in. The threads were completely gone from the head, I'm on a hill and can't disconnect my truck because the tow bar is in a bind. I started calling every shop I can get Google to show me, one said they could do it but wouldn't, no room to do it, but gave me a phone number to a mobile tech, who passed it off to yet another fella that came out on my 2nd day stranded and put in a cheap steel sleeve. This sleeve was set in too deep in the cylinder, and the plug kept getting tapped by the piston just hard enough to close the gap and make it misfire.. ..foe the next 1600 miles I fought with a poorly running engine. A very rough and exhausting trip. Ok, that was enough of that crap! I researched and found what is the best insert for this problem, thankful for it being so common that somebody created a permanent fix, the CalVan inserts kit is perfect. It has a shoulder preventing it from installing too deep and sets the plug at the proper depth. The kit for all plugs was only about $230 and I proceeded to sleeve all 10. Never a worry about that again. The coach is still running great, 3 years later. Sometime I might describe my 4 blowouts in a month issue, they went so fast I couldn't keep up with it ....warnings in there about tires over 5 years old, even if treads a good and they look fine.
OK...FYI that is NOT ticking. That is a full on knock... as in knocking on the door of a new or rebuilt engine. If its getting better it only because the material being knocked against has been beat into submission. The place that did the top end work completely ripped you off. I hate seeing people being taken advantage of, unfortunately it happens way too often. Hope everything works out in the end and your able to continue down the road. We have a 1995 Beaver Marquis with a Cat diesel engine. Should we be faced with the same dilemma our plan is to scrap the motorhome. We do all our own maintenance on the coach but a rebuild of a diesel engine is beyond our capabilities and cost prohibitive given what the coach is worth. So our plan is to enjoy it for as long as it lasts then move on😂 Good luck with your adventures👍
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A few commenters have been pretty rude by saying how dumb we were for paying for repair work that didn’t fix the problem. None of those commenters took the time to ask intelligent questions about our situation. They just hurled insults. Long story short is that we chose to pay the bill versus having some long, drawn out argument with the shop which most likely would have led to them holding our coach hostage. We chose to fight the battle a different way by filing a dispute with our credit card company. Thanks to those of you who actually care enough to make positive, supportive comments!
Lyf Uninterrupted don't know about American law but I'm pretty sure that here in the u.k you can't hold onto someone else's property as I know of mechanics who haven't been paid and tried holding the car until they got paid and the police said that they had to release the car as it would have been classed as theft even though they still wouldn't pay the repair bill the police sided reluctantly with the car owners and said to pursue it through the courts as it was a civil case, the law is a ass as a famous author wrote, authorities siding with the ones stealing from the mechanic
Great solution! Do you! Lol keep chugging!
We chose to handle this situation with the least amount of stress as possible. Laws vary by state here In the US and recourse is all over the place. Thanks for watching!
Thanks!
Yeah, credit card dispute is the easiest way to handle that one. Good thinking. I still say you should put their name out there.
UPDATE: Our credit card company settled the dispute in our favor and refunded the amount we paid the shop!
Lyf Uninterrupted awesome!!!!!!
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To all the idiots who said they should have never paid the repairs....this is how smart people handle their problems. Great win for you guys....happy it worked out for you.
Fight smarter... not harder. Well-played
You beat the man! Yahh! Was it a smooth process to get the refund or lot's of speed bumps?
Thanks for your entertaining, and informative, videos. We have full-timed for 7 years now. Our class C, V10, has just passed 105,000 miles. I do oil changes, most top side repairs based on engine codes etc. We have been very lucky, with only three roadside issues. Two flat tires, fixed by mobile repair companies, and a mass airflow problem, which I fixed. I do a lot of preventative things when we are in longer term camp situations. (Alternator, starter, serpentine belt, spark plugs…) Now I’m thinking about water pump, fuel pump, and the like. You are so right about emergency funds, even though we have not used ours. Based on your experiences, we are going to up the amount, and the insurance suggestions are appreciated. My point is to stay ahead of problems as much as possible. And you’re right, stay calm!!
Hi Del! Sounds like your well versed and mechanically inclined. These are important skills to have when faced with major issues while on the road.
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I sure feel for your guys, wow this has been a test of patience and keeping your cool under extremely stressful conditions. I sold my trailer and bought a 24' Mercedes B+ Motorhome because I didn't want to have to deal with the towing aspect. I can sure see how having a Motorhome can be a "negative" when you have engine troubles as there goes your home! I'm not from the U.S. but think it is awesome that you both are sharing pertinent information that may help others.
All the best to you both, hopefully you will get this problem figured out soon and be back on the road with peace of mind and safely!
Thank you! We made it safely from Florida to Arizona. Over 2000 miles with no problems! The B+ units are so nice these days.
We have be RVING for 15 years, not full time, but most of the time. Just can't seem to let go of the garden. We had an amazing fifth wheel with all the bells and whistles but felt the need to down size and bought a class C. My biggest fear was the dreaded break down where we would find ourselves homeless with our dogs while our RV was in for repair. You two have helped to ease that fear. Love your videos, they are so true to the RVING experience. You have a new fan!
Hi Sandra! Your compliment is so very much appreciated! This is exactly why we put ourselves out there! Thank you!
i see a lot where the pvc piece under the valve cover came on glue that on the inside of the valve cover that falls down on the rocker arms making it so like u have a rod knock or a piston knock ford should recall this they took u for a ride i have seen 6 of this problem
@isthisbetterwell9958Ds is it pvc type gasket you're referring to?
Simply put the RV community is some of the greatest people I’ve met in your situation my Rexall has a V 10 as well and I have been extremely fortunate running with the same miles 47,000 no problems to date I hope things now are going much better for you and that you enjoy your lives
UPDATE! We made to from Jacksonville to Arizona in one piece. The engine is still knocking but running just fine otherwise. We are taking it to an shop this Friday that specializes in these V10! Stay tuned for more updates.
Haveing several years of automotive and heavy equipment repair experience knowing how far you drove with the knock I would be very surprised that you would have a serious engine problem if it was a terminal problem I doubt you would have driven that far without a catastrophic failure.
Fingers crossed it's something simple!
Bestia13 Unfortunately it isn’t a lifter problem as this engine doesn’t have lifters. It has lash adjusters, which were replaced but the knocking remains.
@Bestia13 No worries. Thank you!
@Zooman X i agree and why buy a vehicle you plan on driving for hundreds of thousands of miles with a gas motor, diesel motor's just getting broken in around those miles lol.
Yep.. this is why I tow a trailer.. Toyota breaks down, take the trailer to the nearest RV park and have the truck fixed and I still have my home... if I have problems with the trailer, I still have my tow... But I feel for ya.. because I only have so much money in savings too. Not enough for a 10k motor.
Keeping an emergency fund is definitely important. Sounds like you’re doing the right things in that respect. Thanks for watching!
And anybody can work on the tow vehicle, NO Specialty shops! I tow with a Ranger 4X4 with towing package! 👨🏼🔧
Thx LYF U for informative video sorry to hear of your misfortune. HM2CW on why I have a TV and trlr which I hope never has a similar experience but Mr. Murphy has a way of showing up at the most inopertune moment. While working at a So Cal Cat dlr and Onan distributor I saw the impact of breakdowns on owners who's travel plans were interrupted when their house on wheels had to go in for repairs. Any GM dealership knows how and has tools/parts to repair my Sierra 3500 and most tow vehicles can get it there. YMMV Happy Camping
Bill Dennis Thanks for watching and for the good advice!
You have a Toyota not a Ford.... you'll be ok
I know it's already a difficult situation. Try to ignore the bs you find in the comments. Unless someone's been there they don't know how stressful it is to have your home and vehicle crap out out all at once. Remember, these jokers are at home doing NOTHING...anyone who participates in online harassment is sick. Their lives are SO uncomfortable that they have to insult you to feel better. Really sorry all this happened. At least ppl are watching your experience and you're getting your content out there. Thanks for the video and good luck, stay safe!😊🇺🇸🏞✌
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thanks for your vid.i just subscribed i have a 2000 f53 with v10 with 67k no problems so far. we are also full timers for the past year I'll be watching to see how things go for you.GOD bless
Thank you! We appreciate people like you who are positive and helpful!
So sorry to hear commenters are so rude, bless you for sharing your wonderful adventure and mishaps .. hope you find the good comments , and just read those ignore the rudeness ..they are just jealous …or not really educated in this thing we called life ……..wonderful people … thank you. For sharing
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Eye opening! So much education about RVs and RVing. I thank you both.
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Right, keep calm ... when you have your health you've got it all!
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I had a 1972 Datsun 510 made the same noise. There was a chunk of metal missing from one of the cam lobes. Replaced camshaft. No problem.
Check out our update video. It shows what happened to the engine. Thanks for watching!
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I feel your pain. Been there, done that! The silver lining was that I got a much newer, updated RV. But my heart still sinks when it makes a sound I don't recognize.
Funny how your ears tune in to those kinds of things, isn’t it. Thanks for watching!
I recently purchased a 2004 coachmen class a rv with an F550 chassis, same triton v10 motor. I don't plan on driving cross country, but if you haven't purchased one already, get an odb-ii bluetooth adapter and use an app called torque with your smartphone. You can troubleshoot lots of issues with one of these.
Sounds like you checked everything that could cause that knocking. Maybe it was bad gas, I've had a similar issue in the past with bad gas on my F150 truck. Could also check the main bearings if they are worn out.
Thanks for watching. The engine rebuild included all new rod bearings.
I did see a v10 with a broken valve spring in a bucket truck also caused the tapping sound...with 160000 miles..also just to make sure we are on the same page...v8 engines have phasers..v10 engine have a balance shaft-on the left bank only...checking all cam followers and roller arms is time consuming..it only takes one to fail to make that noise...hope this helps
Thanks! Mechanic said he checked all of the followers, cam and balance shaft. All looked fine so he replaced 15 lifters, which didn’t fix the issue.
Good advice! We had tranission trouble with a prior MH while travelling 3000 miles from home. We were fortunate to find a good shop that got us back on the road within a couple of days. Staying calm and having resources for such things is essential, including roadside service.
Thanks! We’re glad everything worked out for you. It’s tough when your on the road. You just don’t know who to trust when you’re in that position.
I'm very sorry you had to endure that episode. We live in Phoenix and had we known of your predicament, wold have offered any assistance to make your stay here as smooth as possible. I'm happy that you are still able to wander and wish your Life Uninterrupted for the foreseeable future.
Mike Tomas Very nice of you! Thanks for the support and well wishes. If all goes well with the coach we’ll be in Phoenix December 12th!
Very disheartening to hear no one can assist you. It is ridiculous that no one out there can service your equipment. That is my biggest fear owning a motor home . My hat is off to you for not losing it !
I have a 2004 Triton V10 in my F250 with 210,000 miles (Wyoming ex oil field) and it runs perfect. Your hoses look terrible compared to my originals. I have never replaced the serpentine belt or any hoses. Never been to the shop for anything. I consider the V10 an incredible engine
Thanks for watching. I agree! The Triton V10 is a very good engine. I get a lot of people think otherwise, but most don’t own them but just want to rag on Ford. Glad yours is serving you well. The hoses are all good. I think what you’re referring to is the outer protective cover on the PCV valve hose that is beginning to deteriorate.
Yupp! I too had a 2003 f250 with the V10 and the only problem I had was that the spark plug was spitting up from the valve. Although, it can be a simple repair.
Thank you so much for ur insights on repair shops since I'm having an electrical ignition issue w the E-450 chassis on my Thor Four Winds motorhome< Luck has it I did make it back home after 9 months away from my MN home first yr retired, but the last few nights away before arriving home the alternator didn't seem to be charging the deep cycle house batteries or run anything while driving, so I replace those deep cycles after getting home, still NO 12V power worked w/o being plugged into shore power @ my house>>> But here is where some luck came in, when I tried starting up the engine up here @ home, it ran rough & then wires by the battery started to smoke!!!! This is definitely a E450 FORD issue? After replacing the deep cycle batteries & the main disconnect switch & smoke coming off the wires on the chassis battery, I even used my fire extinguisher to be safe there was that much electrical smoke, no flames though, but WHEW if this woulda happened while on the ROAD, ouch!
Camping World I bought it @ recommended a repair shop but my 30ft motorhome will need to be towed there from outta my driveway< Thanks again for ur insights, I was planning on selling my house going full timer, but my old employer of nearly 40 years, an injection molding company, & they'd like this molding engineer to come back to work for a few years if I could, I am still only 60 years old :) Thanks for the making this video & ur repair shop insights 💯
Good news, BTW, my son has a2006 F150 that's been ticking like that for the last 100000 miles, still runs great just ticking. He didn't want to spend money on it. Good luck.
Thank you! We've made it almost 700 miles so far!
I just checked with wholesale warranties and they do not cover 2004 and older. So we’ll have to look someplace else. But FMC does and for our motorhome it will be $85 a year. So that is not bad at all. Thank you for your video. Very informative.
Sorry about HW not covering your RV. FMCA is great. You’ll love having all the benefits. Thanks for watching!
This is very good information. You two are an awesome team. Thanks for sharing and God bless you both. Safe travels...
Thank you!
So glad you ended up be ok. Staying calm about the engine getting fixed or not worked out good. Sorry to hear about your Rv.
Good thing it lasted after going a lot of miles. I see that there’s a part 2 of the engine I will watch it. Till next time stay safe. Safe travels.
Thanks Sherri!
Thanks for not sugar-coating these incidents!
Thanks for watching David!
I have heard stories like this before. One couple had to have their rig towed from North Western Montana to Wyoming ($$$) That is why I chose a 5th wheel. Good luck to you both.
Thanks for sharing. On all of our travels throughout the US we’ve seen far more trailers and 5th wheels broken down on the side of the road than any other type of RV. Not sure why. Perhaps because there are more of those on the road than any other type of RV?? Every type of RV has its issues thats for sure.
I had what I believe was the same problem (or at least the noise sounds the same) they replaced the manifold gasket and no more noise. $350 It will be interesting to see what they come up with. All the best to both of you and wishing many trouble free miles.
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Captain Fatty what you explained sounds like you had a exhaust leak that does sound sorta like theirs but theirs has a metal tick to it . I had one make this tick before and it was the wrist pin ( the rod that holds the piston rod to the piston)It had worn out and created a tick but it still ran. There was small specks of metal in the oil so it wouldn’t have ran much longer. I would suggest to them to change the oil and look for any metal if any is found you will need a new motor. Good luck guys 👍👍
Yikes!! Significant engine troubles.....definitely one of the biggest concerns on the road! Thank you for covering some of the many things to mitigate concerns while traveling!! Stay healthy!!
You bet!. Thanks for watching!
We had our share of breakdowns. It not a matter of if it’s when. Great advice thanks for sharing
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I lived in Alaska for two winters, 2001-03, in Fairbanks. Lots of RVs lumber up the Alcan every year, and the mechanic I took my old Chevy s-10 to also had the heavy stuff to work on these - they said that RVs were tough to work on, not because of the mechanical stuff, but because it’s basically someone’s HOME. It make sense too.
First of all, I wish you well in your travels. I am on my fourth year living in an RV, on a very limited disability pension.
I am a retired Heavy Vehicle mechanic Buses and Trucks as well as passenger vehicles.
My first action would have been to pull the Valve cover and check the valve train with the engine running, compressing rockers and inspecting springs, pushrods, and lifters. after which, this would give me a better understanding of the problem, or source of the tapping, [the valve cover echoes too much to determine problem]
If I didn't find the problem at the top end, then I'd pull the oil pan and check bottom end bearing and Con Rods. All of which I would do myself with my on-board tool kit. [sorry but I'm old school] at whatever place I could, parking lot, or side of the highway. As others have said, the noise over the video is always difficult to use to diagnose the problem. That is why it is a must to do as much of the diagnostics as you can [if you have the expertise] In know nothing about the V10 engines, but all engines are fundamentally the same.
As a further note, In your case with such a vehicle, I would take it to a shop that works on Buses and trucks, as they would have the equipment to service your Coach.
I wish you good fortune.
Good info! Thank you!
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Very sorry to hear of your engine issues ,the related costs and hassles. The Ford V10 is still used in 2021 Motorhomes a busses , but not in their pickups ?? I have one in a F250 4x4 , 180000 miles and love it. It has seldom had to work hard. You guys are doing a great job, of candid, honest advice, although I need to study on that composting toilet a bit more. I just bought a new 29 ft travel trailer. We will not be living in it , but traveling, camping etc, I am thankful to hear, and learn from your videos. Thank you.
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This is an important consideration when buying an RV. I like having a truck and trailer. You break down and you can still stay in your trailer when your vehicle is in the shop. If something is wrong with my trailer, I still have the truck besides I can choose to buy a diesel truck to pull it. I’m not a fan of the 454 and 460 engines in those motorhomes besides when you buy a used one you always want to find out how long they’ve been sitting which can be a guessing game. At least a truck I drive it daily and a trailer can sit for a long time. I’m someone who works a lot and likes to camp once in a while and do a bit of RVing and my trailer does sit in indoor storage in the winter to protect from damage
Thanks for watching!
I just renewed my FMCA Roadside Rescue great to know it works, we travel full time in our 2007 National Sea Breeze no V-10 problems going on 8 years and 60,000 miles knock on wood:)
Best wishes on your engine. Be sure to do regular oil changes and use the Ford specified oil & filter. Ours had regular oil changes and maintenance but something still failed.
@@LyfUninterrupted I agree, yes I have used Motorcraft oil and filters from the beginning, usually every 3,000 miles 4,000 at the most.....safe travels!
I’ve got a diesel pusher as well. Who do you recommend for warranty or towing? We have AAA RV but that’s it. We threw a driveshaft leaving the desert one day. Luckily I’m mechanically inclined and got it handled in an hour. Then a manifold cracked and the bolts broke off. Did that one myself as well. But if we ever have a major issues I’d love a recommendation for when the poo hits the fan.
Best of luck to you both. New follower.
@@RaceMentally FMCA has a couple of options Roadside Rescue is one.
Race Mentally Check out FMCA Roadside Rescue. We’ve used it and it’s excellent! join.fmca.com/lyf19/
Oh man! That was a crazy time for you two. We love FMCA and so glad you had it! Safe travels to Phx!
Briggs on the Road Yeah, we’re still on the road! Stopped in West Texas near Sonora at a rest stop for the night. Keep your fingers crossed!
My wife and I had a couple of RV's over the years. Did not go full time. These "big ticket" RV's will cost a fortune to fix, in most cases. We had to opt out of the system. Was fun, but we didn't want to end up stranded. Thanks for your video - was very interesting. Thanks.
Not a piston slap, but my guess is a bad rod bearing. Take a stethoscope to bottom side of running engine. This should give you your answer.
Your good friend Vinny in good old Fla.
Thank you for the feedback. The rig is currently in the shop undergoing repairs. We can't wait to update the video with the diagnoses. So many guesses. Thank you for watching!
Are you guys still full time? Sorry about your V10 engine problem. We had an Rv with over 140,000 miles and it ran great. We live in Mesa Az & want another RV. GOOD LUCK & BE SAFE. 👍🙏👋🏻
Hard to diag exact on a video, but 100% that is not a exhaust manifold leak or lifter/tappet based on the speed of the noise. I'm a master tech and have over 15 years experience 8 years of RV experience in NY. If your dipstick is clean and doesn't look metalic at all I would check your flexplate/flywheel being cracked. If that had a bad bearing after a couple hundred miles of rv duty that motor would be toast. I have diagnosed plenty of other misdiagnosis of engine knocks due to being a cracked flywheel. I can think of over a dozen people I have saved over the years from not doing a engine replacement. There is a access cover on the lower part of the transmission for the torque converter bolts, I use a scope/flex camera to inspect the area where the flywheel bolts to the crankshaft.
This is great information. I was thinking about checking the flexplate but dismissed it. I’ll see if I can take a look at it. I did drain a bit of oil from drain pan valve and it appears to be fine. No metallic look to it or shiny bits of metal. We just got into Arizona and engine is running fine apart from the knock. Did 65-70 mph the entire way from Jacksonville to Arizona with no problems. I did notice that the tranny did have a couple of shifting issues but nothing alarming.
@@LyfUninterrupted To make that trip with a bad rod, main bearing or loose wrist pin is like 99.9% unlikely unless you have the worlds best broken engine!! I would be willing to bet alot that you have a cracked flywheel around the crank flange or loose torque converter nuts. On the bright side that repair should be under $1500 and 1 full day down at any desent repair shop with a large 4 post lift.
That’s encouraging news! Thank you!
I am retired master technician, the cracked flex plate is a very likely result. This can be determined with limited disassembly.
The biggest cause of failed repair attempts is the person attempting to make the repairs simply doesn't know how to make a proper inspection before work is started.
The places that change more are often cheaper because they know what they are about. A repair that is not guaranteed to correct the problem is of no value. While I was working if I failed to solve the problem first attempt working in a Dealership. I was required to solve the problem for free. So I always did everything possible to determine exactly what was wrong before I spend any money beyond change for inspection. In my home state the vehicle must be returned to the owner in similar condition as it was received if repair estimated was not accepted. So I was the person with the highest risk every day not the customers.
This is the best advice I have seen...I too note that the modulation of the ticking does not change ruling out internal failure...I had a similar ticking on a 5.3L Chevy having to replace lifters...although it was easier to diagnose as modulation changed with rpm...I would check for vacuum leaks or air intake pumps as well
Man you mentioned Orlando and then a few miles up and then you ended it with Bainbridge ga... I always go up the road to Bainbridge once a year around this time for sweet corn season 6 weeks of a different scenery, but this year they put me on a different task and I couldn't go hopefully next year I can go to good ole Bainbridge ga
New subscriber! Love your videos. So real and down to earth. Husband and I thinking of doing the RV life. Thank u! 🚙
Thank you! If you do decide to live this lifestyle, when would you start and what type of RV would you get?
I learn the hard way too...No gas engine class A had same problem no ford dealership could work on the Class A I just traded mine on a used Pusher class A with a cat engine and freightliner chassis If I had any problems with the drive train I can take to any freightliner dealer and they can fix it and boy I'm I glad, Had a fuel injector go bad and just got lucky to find a dealer in Greensboro NC to fix it. I was told that any freightliner dealership could fix any drive train or chassis problem coast to coast.
It’s challenging no matter which RV you have. Living in one full time adds another layer of complexity for sure. Good luck with your rig!
The V-10 is can overall good engine. I had one in my class C and it worked great. We brought a 40' Class A this year and I went with the Cummins diesel. Mostly because I spent most of my life owning and fixing them in semis. I can fix, cobble, jury-rig, anything on my engine and am thankful for being able to. I feel your pain with finding shops on the road and being let down time and again. I know I'm not there and haven't looked at your rig but I'm betting the fellow who mentioned the intake gasket is right on the money. I know the v-10's have some issues with the intake? My fingers are crossed for you. Good luck and safe travels!
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FWIW As a retired truck driver I have seen some horrible repair bills for Diesels. When I bought our Class A I chose to stick with gas and I too have the F53 chassis with the Triton V10 and, I'm like you, I do most of the repairs myself. I have the ZF Parking brake system on my bench right now rebuilding it while the Coach sits over the winter. Please keep us updated as to what actually happened FWI ....B.C. to Arizona and back twice.---> B.C. to Saskatchewan and back twice --->B.C. to Alaska and back----> many shorter trips around B.C. and the coach has never been to a shop since I bought it. Good luck!!
That’s great! Sounds like you know your way around an RV. Thanks for your support!
So sorry for your troubles. If you had a diesel, like we do, it would be a $30k replacement. Will you try to find a good shop when you get to Phoenix? You bought the coach to save money so if you are satisfied with it get the engine repaired/replaced, you are still ahead compared to buying new.
Yes, the plan is to get it repaired in Phoenix.
You're probably helping out others with your progress reports on this. Excellent pros commenting on here - I can tell they are trying their best to help out.
I have been putting a nano oil additive in my suv to get rid of a jingling sound and it worked - old car. I checked on the product to see if it would work for your Class A, but don't think it will. Darn! Wish you all the best!
Thanks for the info. I’m always cautious about putting any additives into the crankcase.
Waiting to find out what happened, We have a V10 two-valve.
We’re going to take it to a en engine specialist in Phoenix next week. Will put out an update when we know more.
2 valve engine's are way more reliable.
Hope the engine issues are resolved without too much more difficulty. I have the V8 Triton in my class C and it’s kind of a noisy engine, but it runs a lot quieter on premium. Safe travels.
Thank you!
Thank you for sharing that i just recently purchased a 08 v10 rv hope i dont run to issues.
Just treat the engine well and it will serve you well. Do Regular oil changes and don’t forget that according to Ford, the V10s can burn up to a quart of oil every 1000 miles, so be sure to check it regularly.
Great video, sorry you are having problems with the engine. I am interested to know what the noise is when they tear it down for repair.
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Hey I watch vids like this to learn! Appreciate folks like you willing to share!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
One thing I learned being a former Class A owner is that you have to have a pretty deep wallet to own one. I don't care if it is a gasser or a pusher, the cost of ownership is pretty steep and the company's that can work on these rigs are not as prevalent. Brakes, Engine work, tire replacement, batteries are all things that will need repair and they are expensive. I am sorry for your issues and you did the best you could with the resources you had available. Unless you are a certified and experienced Ford Truck Technician, you have now way of knowing that was wrong with that engine and apparently the shop you went to was as equally perplexed.
My first question was did they check your oil pressure and was it in specification (an external pressure gauge tool and not the inaccurate gauge that is on the rig)? Did they drain the oil and look at it for metallic flakes or even small metallic shavings? Did they drop the pan before they pulled the heads to inspect the lower end? Does the knock get louder, disappear or otherwise change when you raise the RPM's. Someone mentioned, and I have heard, that a flywheel can provide the same noise, but I have only heard of this and never experienced it. It is for sure not valve or exhaust header gasket noise (I could tell that from the audio via youtube).
I guess the upside is this is cheaper than replacing an HVAC system, Roof or septic system on a Bricks and Sticks :-).
I agree that a crate motor at this point with a factory warranty may be a better choice than a rebuild at a local shop. You don't know what you are getting and getting any kind of warranty work once you leave the area is next to impossible. Some local shops refresh and only replace the parts that are damages and do not necessarily re-machine the crank surfaces, etc. At least a crate motor should be like or better than new.
Thanks! We appreciate your advice. I did drain some oil and it looks fine to me. No metallic appearance of material that I could see. The shop didn’t remove the head they just replaced the valve lash adjusters. Taking it to an engine shop next week.
@@LyfUninterrupted Good luck! I hope it all works out.
"you have to have a pretty deep wallet to own one" AMEN!
In 2018 the valve spring for the #2 valve in the #7 cylinder failed. The engine ran but we had the dreaded restricted acceleration. It was towed to a Ford dealer, and although they couldn’t work on it they confirmed the engine was “blown.” We then had it towed to a Ford commercial vehicle service center and the engine was replaced (it took about a week). After getting the coach back, we were on a trip and the cabin filled with radiator steam. Ford sent out a mobile mechanic and fixed the problem. Turns out we got a new engine but the mechanic used the old hose clamps, which failed. Fortunately, the engine replacement was under warranty.
Hi guys it dumb that people make rude comments about paying for repair work that didn't fix the problem. You were a long way from home and at the mercy of mechanics that say they know what they are doing. I would fight the charge card as it sounds like you are doing. Best wishes. I hope the mechanic will compromise somehow with a fair figure.
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So sorry for your problem. Years ago I had the dream to travel full-time, selling the house. We ended-up just taking long vacations and returning home. Had a gas class A with no problems. If we did go full-time, I would have traded up for a diesel pusher for sure.
Thanks, John. Something we've learned after being on the road for over 3 years now is that there are pros and cons to having any type or RV. We have many friends with DP's and the common theme expressed by everyone is that they VERY costly to repair and maintain properly. Also, gas mileage is about the same as our V10.
Sorry guys. Vehicle problems or worries are no fun! Can you have a Tiffin dealer check it out? We are south of DFW 60 miles if you find yourself stranded....
Thank you! Very gracious indeed! We made it to West Texas area of I-10 between Junction and Sonora.
Thanks, ive got a 5.4 f150 that i had for 4 months and had to rebuild the engine, its set my plan back also! Keep on pushin!
I watched so many videos on the 5.4 Triton. How much did it cost to rebuild?
$4800, lots of new things like block, heads, manifold, mounts, bearings etc. took about 5 weeks.
Just say no.....to Ford
The old "You need a new engine because we can't figure out what is wrong with the engine so we will just replace the whole thing " ploy.
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sounds like manifold leak or cam phasers .
Neither. The 3 valve V10 doesn’t have cam phasers. Check out the update video for more info.
@LyfUninterrupted lol that stuff is a easy fix but I understand people don't like touching engines but there's millions of videos on UA-cam how too fix it
@@davem5333 it needed a new engine
I had a family member who had an RV with that V10, the unit eventually gave out and he went on to swap a Cummins 6.7 Diesel into it (i believe it was out of a crashed RAM truck), not an issue since then, and it's got plenty of power for the RV it's in.
I had a friend about to buy a class A with a Ford V-10 in it that had once upon a time been a rental. I drove it and shot it down two blocks from the dealership. Problem being a main bearing noise that would come on in the power band at the time of shift (Around 2200-3000 RPM) or so. The problem with a Motorhome of any kind is that at the start and end of every day, they're a fully loaded truck. The Drive trains have to be babied as much as possible. Don't try to drive them like an indy car. People do and that puts far too much wear and tear on them and they'll fail prematurely. I have a 460 Ford in my Class C and I just putt it around from place to place and fortunately it's still rock solid. Whatever you do, DO NOT REBUILD that engine and put it back in, replace it with a crate motor from Ford, then baby it.
Thanks for this info! We usually drive it 55-60 mph max and try to not load it too heavily. That said, one would expect to be able to drive the coach as it was intended to be driven.
Good advice, “stay calm”. Good to see you received the necessary support yet most unfortunate you spent a good pile of $ with no resolution. Hopefully you will find an economical & timely resolution.
Jim 6100 A. in Phoenix Thanks for the kind words of encouragement and support! It’s nice to see people in our community like you!
My wife and I spent the summer in a gas v 10 triton visiting the capitols...loved our engine performance and feel your pain. We pay and trust the Lord to cause things to work for good. Praying for your situation as you deal with each day...it is awesome to feel free enough to go where we want when we want...best wishes as you get through this
Thank you!
Had my brand new Catalina Puma burn out a wheel bearing. We'd only been full timers for a few weeks. Turned out the manufacturer, LCI, didn't bother putting more than a drab of grease in any of the 4 hubs. They sent out a new axle, and paid the cost of our stay, but we were marooned at a crappy Kansas rural RV park for 20 days while they shipped the axle to us. So far, the biggest problem we've experienced.
Even brand new rigs can have significant problems. This is what we tell people all the time when they say we should get rid of our 2008 coach and buy a new one.
Hope you find the problem. Stuff like this is no fun. Having complete systems in one unit is why I have stayed away from Class A’s or C’s although I know there are many rolling with no problems. I am by myself so a small TT like a. Cherokee Wolf Pup suits me fine pulled by a small Dodge truck with a big V8. However I certainly see the advantages and comforts of what you have. Sounds like you will get this figured out soon and be back on the adventure road with the rest of us. You are earning your RV stripes for sure. Wishing you good fortune!!!
Thank you! Each type of RV certainly have their pros & cons.
Well I hear that Motorhomes are quite similar to yachts and that means it's always being tinkered with, but, as things get repaired the history is logged and the coach becomes more like home. I think this happens quite a bit with new/used RV's. Hopefully it's better this year!
So true!
WOW!!! that was very good information but it began to sound like a commercial. You never mention what was wrong with the engine and that is why I watched the video.
Thanks for watching. We never mentioned what is wrong because we don’t know yet. It’s in the shop being torn down to find out what the problem is. Stay tuned for an update next week.
@@LyfUninterrupted thank you for the update
Really great videos of your RV life! And so sorry you had the engine problems you had with the motorhome. That’s one of the reasons I have always preferred a truck and fifth wheel because any dealer can work on my truck engine and they’re everywhere. But a motorhome is really nice and convenient too. I just came across your channel I look forward to watching some more of your great videos. Thanks.
Hi Larry! We appreciate you tuning in. Every RV has Pros and Cons.
Consider checking with Sanderson Ford in Glendale, AZ (Northwest Phoenix Valley). They sell large Ford commercial vehicles so they may be able to work on yours or at least recommend a shop.
Sorry to hear of your problem. My two biggest concerns with a travel trailer are getting in severe weather (hail and high winds) and having some texter hitting me!
Thanks for the tips. Does the FMCA coverage also apply to a tow vehicle? I understand you are no longer required to own a motorhome to join.
Correct! FMCA now welcomes members with towables! Our understanding is that the roadside rescue covers the RV and tow vehicle, but we recommend you double check with FMCA.
We were very pleased with Sanderson Ford Commercial Truck repair. On I-10 in AZ, we blew the High Pressure Air Conditioner line for the engine A/C. We found out that "ONLY" the Ford Commercial Truck Dealers will or have the capabilities to work on the Class A. We have a V-10, 3 valve. Our issue was a rub through on the HP Line from the hose rubbing against a "reversed" rivet on the passenger side. Look for this rascal so you don't go through the same headache. Anyway, we have been very pleased with the Ford V-10, we have driven over 25,000 miles with no issues (fingers crossed and knock on wood), When we head out of Florida at Christmas, heading to San Diego, we will have almost 70,000 great miles on our unit. Great to hear that you are back on the road but i want to hear what caused the tapping as "I" to would have called a tow truck.
I am considering going on the road and this was very helpful. I think i am going to go with a trailer or 5th wheel. It sounds easier to service or replace a tow vehicle over the entire rig.
Love you guys! thank you for the videos!
Thank you!
Prior to watching this video - I watched one of gas vs diesel pusher RV. That owner went with the Ford Triton because of being able to easily find a mechanic, that he could go to any Ford dealer and get assistance. Well you proved that wrong. My biggest concern is not getting an engine with enough power for mtns. Our daughter has moved to Pueblo CO and son lives in Schenectady NY - both require going over and thru mtns. I think a DP because of the road engine noise. Thoughts? Look forward to watching your next video that it was fixed. We currently own a 2002 Workhorse winnebago Brave 30' - love love love this layout, BUT it has been in the shop for 3 mo with Reduced Engine Power (possible throttle pin, not sure) only has 11500 mi on it, interior is like new like the 30' we will flat tow a Jeep. THx
They all have their issue for sure. One thing we’ve learned is to not be in a hurry. Not a big deal for us to take it slow and easy up steep grades. We have friends with diesel coaches. One had to replace the engine at a cost of $20K and another had a fuel pump replaced at a cost of $8K. New gas coaches are starting to get the new Ford 8 cylinder engine which is supposedly much better option than the V10.
My biggest fear as well. Thanks for sharing.
George Levasseur Thanks George! We’ll get through it!
We had our excursion catch on fire pulling our brand new MPG 3100bh travel trailer. Like you say you have to keep calm and not lose your mind lol. 4k later and 6 days back on the road home. You'll get it sorted out. Be safe out there
WOW! That must have scary. Glad it all worked out for you. Thanks for your support!
@@LyfUninterrupted ya it was rough. I put the fire out with the extinguisher in the new camper. Now we carry extinguishers in all our cars
Chris Ludwig We had a small fire in our Jeep due to overheated brakes. Put it out on the side of the road quickly but the damage was done. $1000 repair bill. We carry extinguishers in all vehicles as well.
Ford is replacing the V10 with a new design OHV v8.. it is 7.3 liter ...however...don’t jump on it the first year they are introduced..give it a year or so ..let them work the bugs out....
Thanks for this info. If we could, we’d wait to see if we could retrofit the 7.3 into our rig.
Just say no
I don't care what anybody else says and should you all. My wife and I talked about having an RV selling out and just traveling. I used to be a racecar driver and builder for 45 years when I heard your motor and what it was doing the two things that came to my mind either collapsed lifter or that side part of the engine wasn't getting the lubricant of the oil. Or a slight push rod with those something like that out of adjustment or collapsed valve spring. Any of those things can go wrong even on my race car the motor. Build I've had that same sound after racing. I have found out mostly that's collapsed lifter collapsed valve spring or slight bent pushrod. I hope you all and I prayed I hope you guys got it fixed and found out what it is please let me know how curious, I subscribe the follow up on you all see how things go God bless you enjoy your trips Merry Christmas
Thank you! Will update the video after we take it to an engine specialist in Phoenix next week.
Did the shop in Jacksonville drop the oil pan and inspect
the crank bearing s ???
Sounds like they just worked on the top end.
God Bless in the future.
Good luck.
No, they didn’t drop the pan, so that’s something we’ll do when we get to Arizona next week. Thanks the support and well wishes!
Brings back similar memories where had a knock like this that turned out to be a bad exhaust manifold gasket. The leak on just that cylinder sounded just like a knock and had we not found a mechanic who really knew what he was doing, we would have been out what the others wanted to charge with 1000's in repairs.
That’s the first thing I looked for. Had a Ram pickup that had a broken manifold bolt and the tick, tick, tick. This was much more pronounced and metallic. Check out our follow up video called “It’s Done” to see what the issue was.
I'm leaning more toward a class c for this very reason but I do not plan on full timing it
Many nice class c’s out there. Good luck!
@@LyfUninterrupted I have been looking into maybe going with a used cruise America unit I figure the price is good enough that it wont hurt the pocketbook as much as buying new or if I buy a used unit that literally falls apart on me
A quick trip to Colorado turned into a two week stay in Colorado, over heated thinking something small and it turned out to be the engine threw a rod , lucky we were still under the Ford warranty with the V10 engine @ 11000 miles ! New valves and a bunch of other stuff as well as the trip interruption coverage , I had hotel points accumulated and that alone covered our stay in a hotel ! Feel your pain brother !
Sorry to hear that, but at least it was repaired un warranty! Did you watch our repair update video called It's Done?
Lyf Uninterrupted No , but I’ll look for it ASAP
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Why did you pay for the work to valve train if it didn't fix it? At least the shop should have discounted the price in my mind.
They did reduce the labor and parts cost. We just wanted to get our motorhome back. We’ll fight the battle with the shop after the fact. Otherwise we might not have gotten our rig back until we paid. Thanks for watching!
Well, sitting here in my PJ at the table, I can say that you made some mistakes! Sad to hear someone having issues with their Motor Home! Happy to hear you made it worked! When you are in the juice, you do what you can with what you have! Love picking up from other people experience and put it in our bank! Thanks for all your info!😎😎😎
Thanks for watching!
Had a number of years as an auto mechanic (ASE certified master technician) with BMW, Volvo Master Tech, Nissan, and Saturn Certified Tech. You didn't post what was the final diagnosis that found the failed component, so I'm gonna throw out my 'best guess' as to what's going on with that lovely tapping noise in the left cylinder head. Since the valve lifters ride directly on the camshafts in the cylinder head, I'm betting on a failed hydraulic lifter or perhaps a broken valve spring, leaning towards the lifter because of the age of the engine and that up until you decided to go full time, the engine sat unused for periods of time. Sitting idle is not good for modern engines. Some commenters think a cracked flexplate / flywheel. I'm disagreeing on that, because of where the noise is originating and that the interval between 'taps' is too long for the flywheel idea which would be more of a continuous or more rapid tapping as it goes as fast as the crankshaft rotates which is way faster than your tapping rate which is in sync with when a single cylinder fires as the engine runs. Also, a bad lifter would have allowed you to drive all that distance without the engine having a catastrophic failure. And with a cracked flywheel / flexplate, I suspect that when cranking the engine, there would have been some unusual noises because of the starter causing that supposed crack to flex as the stress of cranking the engine worked on it.
Thanks for the info. The original mechanic replaced all 15 lash adjusters on that side. He said all other parts in the valve train looked fine.
What about the cam followers?
Jacob G Original mechanic said they are all good. Will know more next week.
Sorry to hear about your problem, I have a V10 , it's considered a tough engine, you need to look around for a good engine rebuilder, $10.000 seems a little pricey, you can get a V10 long block from Ford for around $3.000. Good luck. That's just the block not the parts.
If Ford is not gonna work on these things at their dealership then they should not sell it to the camping industry. I also have a Triton v10 motor in my motor home and I wonder what would happen if it was to break down on road. I used to work on heavy equipment mostly Detroit's ,Cummins ,Cats. Any Ford dealership could work on these things they just don't want to. I've had to crawl on my belly like a reptile to work on diesels in the back of buses. Ford just wants to sell they just don't want to work on them.
Agreed! This is a world of diagnosis by “part swapping” due to the growing complexity of vehicles. Not sure mechanics are even taught how to troubleshoot these days.
I had the exact same problem on my F-53 chassis. Diagnosed correctly as a crack exhaust manifold. Cost about 2k to repair.
Ouch! Glad you got it fixed.
Dont feel bad a diesel pusher can cost $20,000 or more.
YIKES! Everything on a DP is more expensive, isn’t it?
Lyf Uninterrupted ahh yes especially in the rv world because they sit so much. Diesel need to be worked and they are sensitive to their fuel
And as you’ve found out triton 3 valves are garbage motors.
Kevin Tanner Hmmm...is it because RVs sit so much or that Triton motors are garbage? I think the issue is that we mostly hear about the negatives when it comes to things like this. We’ve had far more people reach out that have had a great experience with the Triton V10 than not. You can’t simply focus on the failures, discount all the engines that never have had problems, then come to the conclusion that the Triton V10s are garbage.
Lyf Uninterrupted gasoline motors are better for rvs because of the amount of time they sit.
Every 3 valve triton engine I’ve been around died an untimely death. Maybe you’ll have better luck but I doubt it. I’ve know roughly 12 of them and all had total engine failure. We had a 550 that got two motors from ford in 120,00. That to me is garbage.
The 2 valve ones are fine we have a fleet of them at work other than they make no power. Personally I prefer the Ls style GM engine because they have push rods
Just my opinion
Kevin Tanner Duly noted. Thanks for your Input. We’re taking our rig to a V10 specialist in Phoenix next week. BTW.:. we drove our rig from Jacksonville to Arizona with no problems. The engine still knocks to the same degree it did in Florida. That would tell me it’s nothing too serious. Rod bearings or something in the bottom end of the engine would probably have let loose we’ll before now.
I've had Good Sam for years, but I think for the cost I will be joining FMCA Roadside Rescue too
You should have told us what happened to the engine!
Ah hah! We don't know yet. The rig is in the shop and we'll do an update video once the problem's diagnosed and we get the rig fixed. Thank you for watching!
Oh geez. As the saying goes, it can always be worse, though, at the time, it doesn't always help. Great advice! Hoping for a quick repair and a safe return to Phx! Keep up posted how it went!
Thanks Dean! Yeah, the thought of such an expensive repair is not easy to wrap our heads around. With such low mileage on the engine it just never was much of a concern. Even though it was a fear of ours, we never really thought it would be realized.
Did anyone mention Cam Phasers? I know that some of the Ford engines do have problems with them.
Thanks for your input. No cam phasers in this engine. It’s a 3 valve variant.
@@LyfUninterrupted Mine has 3 valves and has cam phasers.
V10 in both 3 valve and 2valve dont have cam phasers. The 5.4 has vvt, ergo cam phasers. Ive worked on several v10s and just recently did an engine replacement on a 2000 excursion. No cam phasers on it. If you go to rock auto and look at 5.4 timing kit they have phasers, but the v10s dont.
Thank you. Great info.
I'm full timing in my 6th year in my 99 35' Class A Georgie boy. It's one of those V10's with the short threads in aluminum heads for the spark plugs. One common issue on these was the plug blowing out of the hole, steel plug body, and aluminum head with only 3 or 4 threads. What happens is the aluminum threads seize to the steel plug and every plug Change removes a little bit of aluminum until finally there aren't any threads left hold the plug and it blows out violently.
Ok, so here I am, in remote northern New mexico, about 100 miles out of Albuquerque when suddenly I'm startled buy a very loud BANG! bang, bang, bang.....on and on. I Got to the side of the highway ok and at idle this bang is bad. Pulling the dog house, I couldn't see an issue with just a glance, but in starting up, it was obvious with this spark plug bouncing up and down, destroying the plug and the coil over it. It absolutely could not be run this way. Lucky to be towing my Ford Ranger..... Looked up the closest auto parts store, 40 miles south as it turned out, drove in to pick up a coil and plug. I got very lucky (this time), the new plug held with the remaining threads, and I made it to my destination in Sun Valley. 9 months go by. I kinda forgot about it somehow, I'm heading east on US 60 approaching Show Low AZ, on a steep, high torque hill when thar BANG reminded me I had a bad plug hole I forgot to address, only this time it won't stay in. The threads were completely gone from the head, I'm on a hill and can't disconnect my truck because the tow bar is in a bind. I started calling every shop I can get Google to show me, one said they could do it but wouldn't, no room to do it, but gave me a phone number to a mobile tech, who passed it off to yet another fella that came out on my 2nd day stranded and put in a cheap steel sleeve. This sleeve was set in too deep in the cylinder, and the plug kept getting tapped by the piston just hard enough to close the gap and make it misfire.. ..foe the next 1600 miles I fought with a poorly running engine. A very rough and exhausting trip. Ok, that was enough of that crap! I researched and found what is the best insert for this problem, thankful for it being so common that somebody created a permanent fix, the CalVan inserts kit is perfect. It has a shoulder preventing it from installing too deep and sets the plug at the proper depth. The kit for all plugs was only about $230 and I proceeded to sleeve all 10. Never a worry about that again. The coach is still running great, 3 years later.
Sometime I might describe my 4 blowouts in a month issue, they went so fast I couldn't keep up with it ....warnings in there about tires over 5 years old, even if treads a good and they look fine.
So sorry you had to run into that bump in the road of your journey!
Where The Tail Leads - WTTL RV Yeah, it stinks, but there is a silver lining in everything. Sometimes ya just has to dig to find it.
@@LyfUninterrupted Yep turn lemons into to lemonade. I am a glass half full type of a person and hunt the good stuff as my husband always says. LOL!
I (Brian) tend to go to the dark side with stuff like this. Shawnna constantly reminds me of all the good things this life brings.
OK...FYI that is NOT ticking. That is a full on knock... as in knocking on the door of a new or rebuilt engine. If its getting better it only because the material being knocked against has been beat into submission. The place that did the top end work completely ripped you off. I hate seeing people being taken advantage of, unfortunately it happens way too often. Hope everything works out in the end and your able to continue down the road. We have a 1995 Beaver Marquis with a Cat diesel engine. Should we be faced with the same dilemma our plan is to scrap the motorhome. We do all our own maintenance on the coach but a rebuild of a diesel engine is beyond our capabilities and cost prohibitive given what the coach is worth. So our plan is to enjoy it for as long as it lasts then move on😂
Good luck with your adventures👍
thanks! We appreciate your support. Good luck with your coach too.