Kia EV9 350 kW DC Fast Charging Test with Charging Curve!
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- Опубліковано 21 бер 2024
- Kia EV9 Land AWD 99.8 kWh DC fast charging test on a 350 kW Electrify America charger. Can it really do 10% to 80% in 24 minutes? Let's see! 😀
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Jeff: Will the 2024 EV9 have the same ICCU issues as the EV6? Hard to consider spending $60k plus for a known/potential recall.
It shouldn't. It's my understanding it's a different part and software.
Thank you for this!
Glad it was helpful!
Nice! I think we're gonna get the GT-Line EV9 once the EV6 is paid off in 3 years!
Sweet! The EV9 is really nice man
EV9 is the best for now but after 3 years there will be stronger competitors
There may be. Not many 3 rows in the price range on the horizon though.
Great charging speeds . What obd2 reader/ scanner and app are you using?
I agree! I'm using an old adapter but I recommend this one - amzn.to/3UnDToq - It works with iPhones and Android and has great reviews. The app is called car scanner and has a lot of data.
I really like the new dashboard. I wish EV6 can get updated to this one but I doubt it would happen.
Same here. I like a lot about it honestly.
Great video Jeff. Can you show us where the OBD port has moved to please. I had the EV9 for a day and only had 30 minutes left to do my Carscanner thing and could not find it.
Thanks Brian! Honestly I didn't look for it. It was in the same place as my EV6 when I felt under the dash so I just plugged in my adapter. I wonder if the port in yours was loose and hidden up under the dash.
@@TechnicallyJeff hi Jeff great vid. Btw evodessey is in the UK with right hand drive. 🇬🇧😂 So it might be in the same spot behind a cover. At least he gets the charge port on the drivers side. 😂😂
Thanks! Yeah I was thinking that might be the case, potentially
@@TechnicallyJeffit wasn't where I expected it. But I had limited time. Will have another one to play with next month hopefully
I look forward to seeing more content!
What ev9 trim do you have? What trim gets 311 miles at 100% charge?
This was the land awd. The rwd I think is rated for that.
Question: Does it cost more per KW to charge on a 350 KW charger? I normally pay 36 cents per KW on the road at EA and I charge my Kia Niro EV at home for about 11 to 13 cents per KW with a 64KW battery and get a range of 200 miles at 90% charge. In this video, the total cost of 97.3 KW delivered was $54.32 (at 56 cents per KW) so that means a person could buy 15.4 gallons of gas at $3.50 per gallon for the same $54.32. He added 275 miles range (he finished with 285 and started with 10) so if 275 miles are divided by 15.4 gallons of gas, to beat this for the dollar, you just need a vehicle that gets at least 17.8 MPG. My old 2008 Highlander hybrid AWD with 210,000 miles still gets 22.2 MPG and “charges” in 4 minutes at a gas pump. My 2010 Prius gets 43 MPG even if you beat the daylights out of it and has a range of 440 miles (even while punching it at every stop sign). My point is: unless we as a society can get charging costs “on the road” under control, it will kill an otherwise great invention. The average person will not pay $75,000 for a car that gets the cost equivalent of 17.8 MPG.
Math sounds about right. Keep in mind there are different plans that make it cost less per kWh. And the vast majority of charging also happens at home where it's much cheaper. And a lot of vehicles come with a certain amount of public charging included with the purchase of the vehicle. Kia EVs come with 1,000 kWh for example. Others come with 2 or 3 years unlimited.
I'm pretty sure just a quick glance at the EA app shows it's a flat $.56/kwh no matter what the charging speeds are...
Yeah it is the same rate in most states no matter the speed. But if you pay extra you can join their plan that gives lower rates.
Did you precondition the battery before you pulled up to the charger? If so, for how long? A warm battery can make a big difference in charging speed
No it was already warm. But yes that's definitely important.
You can't precondition the battery below 20% which is a shame. The charging rate differs at every single station even the one next to it. I've been at a 350kW station that was only providing 60kW max and then I moved to the one next to it and it was giving me around 200kW max instead. The max that I've seen is 233kW after precondition for around 15 mins and it was around 65°F. Not sure what battery temp was on arrival but it was still preconditioning prior to charging tho.
Interesting, I haven't seen 220+ for the EV9 anywhere yet. But yes definitely lots of variables. Mine was basically ideal conditions.
@@volcalstone In EV9 you can. Navi-bades preconditionin stops at 20% Manual preconditioning is all they way down to 10% SoC
oh good to know
is the 350kw EA charger a 400V System only? or could it also work as 800V system?
350 kW is achieved with higher voltage vehicles. The vehicles themselves need to be able to accept a high amperage as well though. The EV9 has higher voltage (500-600ish volts) but doesn't accept a high amperage. The new Silverado EV can do 350 kW though using it's 800v architecture.
@@TechnicallyJeff Thats interesting. The charging station supports 800V but Ev9 not. Im wondering why, bcs ev6 does on the same platform
It's just a different pack voltage.
That’s funny because i see more Cybertrucks than EV9s in my area 😅
The EV9 needs to drop the price to be very attractive for the mass.
The are some hefty rebates!
@@TechnicallyJeff yes some but not yet enough to give up on my Pacifica 😅. Some analysts predict a price reduction by the end of the year.
Also very curious to try the Lucid Gravity.
Yeah I agree. And yeah the Lucid Gravity looks REALLY nice.
Yeah, lots of EV9s sitting on my dealer lot... even with some models going for under MSRP. Agree, Kia needs to drop their MRSP for normal people to get these...
Yeah. They did just up the rebate to $7500.
What was the ambient/outside temperature?
It was 77 degrees - you can see it on the gauges at about 2:35
I don’t understand setting a DC charge limit. Even if it does slow down, either you’re at the car and able to unplug, or you’re still in the bathroom or whatever and might as well get whatever juice you can before you leave, even if it’s slower. Only exception is if you’re at a per-minute charger somewhere.
Yeah I get that. I think the biggest thing for me is with the EV route planner. If you have a DC charge limit set then the route planner will go based off of only charging to whatever percent you have set.
@@TechnicallyJeffI totally get that. I generally do the actual planning with ABRP and let the route planner pretend to go to 100%. I’ve just gone past 80% so many times at stops and bathroom breaks etc.
Tag I use ABRP too, but ideally I'd want it to match the vehicle. But yeah I have too haha
I always tap "stop" on the screen before unplug. The high current is no joke to stop immediately.
When you press the button on the CCS connector to disconnect from the vehicle, power is immediately turned off.
The button on the plug does not physically disconnect the current, as the plug is locked by a pin on the car side.
Pressing the button does the same thing as pressing the button on the screen. It sends a signal to the car to unlock, and only then can you pull it out.
It doesn't physically disconnect the power, correct. But like you said, doing so disconnects the power.
It’s crazy how that EV9 charges faster at 80% than my 7 year old Model S75 at 20%. I love my car, but it might be time for an upgrade.
Yeah that's crazy haha. Definitely time for an upgrade 👍
No its not tesla just sucks
Why do you say that?
@@lilpeppa117G That’s an older Tesla with older hardware. It doesn’t compare to today’s models.
But then you have to drive a Kia 😂
Have you experienced any paint chipping or cracking on the front grill area? I've been seeing a few complain abou that lately, and replacement costs around $9,000
I only had it as a press car for a week, but I didn't have any paint chipping. Lots of bugs though lol.
Warranty covers paint chips for 36 months
What? Really??
It’s a Kia people have you all lost your mind.
What do you drive?
Why did it not go up to 350kw
350 kW is just the maximum that the charger can put out. The EV9 and other EVs have limits on what they can actually accept.
Watching this video while sitting in a bolt EUV that maxes at 50kw
So slooooow lol
@TechnicallyJeff I've resorted to parking it at a free lvl 2 charger then using uber when i need to charge it. 😭
that's awful lol
Not a bad charging rate at all, but not Kia's/Hyundai's best either. If you noticed, it never got all that close to 800 volts. For a much larger battery than the EV6 or Ioniq 6, it needs to reach that 240kW at minimum.
However, the most disappointing thing is its 400v charging which I hear is as bad, or worse, than the EV6. For a vehicle 2 years younger, you'd thought they would have reengineered something better than using it's rear motor inverter (basically regening) on 400v chargers. 97kW or less is very bad for such a large battery. Especial bad considering all the unreliable 800v chargers out there right now, and their vastly lower numbers in all.
Yeah that's something I mentioned in the video. The EV9 runs at a much lower voltage than the EV6 or other E-GMP vehicles. Very interesting. I haven't tested 400v charging, but it should be capable of faster speeds than the EV6 since it has a higher power rear motor.
@@TechnicallyJeff 400 volt charging is only an issue because of future access to Superchargers. Still likely better than charging at a 50 kW DCFC. 😂 I wonder if charging an 800 volt car is an issue in Europe where they have access to some superchargers?
Right exactly. And V4 superchargers should have 800v support.
@@JohnRoss1 The V4 stalls/dispensers are in place in quite a few locations now, however, the actual chargers (the cabinets in the background) are still V3's. I'm not aware of any site with V4 stalls in which the chargers have been upgraded yet to 800v, either in Europe or America.
Yeah I haven't seen any Tesla branded ones yet but I did see one licensed to another which had the cyber truck charging at > 300 kW
DC charging is a big problem as ıt selects and long trıps became ımpossıble....
What do you mean?
@@TechnicallyJeff AC charge ıs ok wıth EV 9 but DC charge ıs by hazard you can not go to long trıps unfortunately
My own became a cıty car as ı can nort charge ıt vıa DC chargers
Why is dc a problem?
@@TechnicallyJeff EV 9 ıs selectıng the chargıng statıon and does not accept all of them so ıt became useless on long trıps....
*277 miles of range is UNNACCEPTABLE for a decent road trip, and 40 minutes is WORSE.*
NO EVs for me, I don't have time for that nonsense. Technology is suppose to be better, not worse. Smh...
Charging time has always been the only real downside for EVs. That said, 10% - 80% in 24 minutes isn't bad. That's roughly 150-200 miles in 15-20 minutes. That's solid. And ONLY something experienced during road trips. The other 98% of the time for most people it's charged at home while you sleep which is much more convenient than gas stations.