Once again a huge thanks to John Zhu for help with research and narration! If you want to learn more about the period you can check out his awesome show here: www.3kingdomspodcast.com/
I started the podcast 3 days ago before finding this video and its really really good. Its very hard for me to keep track of all the character names but I really really recommend it. Also check out the 2010 tv series.
I find it very fascinating that both Rome and China suffered crisis at roughly the same time (Rome's Crisis of the Third Century and China's Three Kingdoms).
@@0000-z4z Yep. There were lots of reasons they happened, but climate disruption & famine were the root cause of the instability. It's fascinating just how much of human history & warfare is tied to food supply - even many of the war zones going today erupted because of severe drought caused by warming trends.
Ole Fredrik Skjegstad it was caused by the plague that brought not only the end of the Han also the Parthians empire the one in India and vast depleted the Romans by killing huge numbers of people and killed forty per cent of the Han and Roman army, along with famine
Ghost Except for the (somewhat) awkward English. Can’t tell if he’s a native speaker or not, but even native speakers can be unduly influenced by their parents’ idiosyncrasies, failing to adopt the general speech of the people around them in a like manner to non-immigrants. I’d certainly prefer it the other way round, i.e. no fidelity to the Chinese for smooth, enjoyable narration in English if necessary, of course there are those who could pull off both if necessary, though I doubt it’s necessary; I’m never going to discuss Chinese history in Chinese and don’t need to know how the Chinese would pronounce the words and names for any of my purposes in watching this kind of video. Therefore, I submit this entire native tribute (?) is poorly contrived and unwise. Plus, the script is apparently by Invicta anyway, notwithstanding the research credits.
It's not correct if you speak Cantonese. Which is the main language of the the Guangdong region in Southern China. No matter how hard China tries to get rid of Cantonese. Cantonese speakers still exist.
I wanna share this video. It's a pretty good TV series about Cao Cao when he was younger if you're interested. It has English sub and I'm binge watching. I'm currently on ep 10. I get to see how corrupted the Han emperor really is. I think it's mainly the bad influence of a eunuch. The Emperor never care about the common people. Then the yellow turban rebellion make thing interesting. Give this drama a swirl if you haven't. I love how they reveal Liu Bei darker side. New Chinese Drama | Cao Cao 01 Eng Sub 曹操 | Romance of The Three Kingdoms 1080P ua-cam.com/video/zznk6i7uvwE/v-deo.html
Cao Cao is so famous in Vietnam that we created a way of saying "I'm having diarrhea" Is to say "I'm being chased by Cao Cao" instead, meaning you're so blindly running toward the toilet that not even bother about anything around you. Which originally took place in The battle of Changban, where Liu Bei was so in hurry running from Cao Cao that he left his wife and son behind.
Apperently when lu bu took over liu bei's territory he returned his wife and son unharmed. Liu bei has a trsck record of leaving his family behind it seems.
@Lord Voldemort Twynn doesn't even come close lol. Cao Cao's historic achievements are crazy, especially on the administration side. He revamped the entire civil examination system, had amazing agriculture reforms and allowed peasants to hold high positions at court. His son and grandson also did similar reforms such as allowing females to join the court as actual civil servants etc..
From other point of view, Cao Mengde is a true pragmatist hero of the Han, protecting the last vestiges of the dying Han from usurpers like Liu Bei, Yuan Shao, and Yuan Shu (and later Sun Quan) despite multiple occasions that he could usurp the han
Especially when you look at the histories of Europe and the greatest battles on English soil a thousand years later has troops on both sides combing to 40k
@@rondkrows9100 and China has historical been better at administration than the Romans and Medieval Europe, with much higher population densities. The higher numbers makes sense
Actually it includes the people supporting the army like medical teams, people carrying food or weapons, builders etc. So it may only be 50-60k soldiers.
@@Renaldo015 No it is not. In the Xiongnu campaigns the two 60k Han armies were supported by 300k men. These were front line troops. The support troops were many times their number
Just one thing with your comment. Warring States period actually refers to the later half of the Eastern Zhou dynasty. So your statement would be wrong because Cao Cao is not of that period which is couple of hundred years before him.
While history book said 3 Kingdom, Wei kingdom accounted for 6 out of 9 provinces of the late Han Empire. Civil war and unrested might have killed many but the population of Wei was > Shu + Wu. The Wei army needed rebuilding but they were in much stronger position particularly when Shu was no longer allied to Wu. Cao Cao's sun Cao Pei should/could have done the re-unification job if not because of dying young.
One of my personal favorite warlord of the Three Kingdoms. I do admire of his brilliance on military, governance, and even the arts. Sure, he wasn’t perfect but he was good what he did. I do call Cao Cao as Julius Caesar of Three Kingdoms.
Agreed. Despite being treated literally as the devil of Chinese culture there is no doubt he was a very accomplished administrator, poet and general who revived Sun Tzu's The Art of War and made it popular again. As a guy who understood the importance of having enough food to feed your army from the get-go, he instituted beneficial agricultural reforms to make sure his military granaries always had sufficient supply and this ended up ensuring civilians under his rule had enough to eat as well. Plus he also made public education accessible to all levels of society to ensure his government would have the most talented men running it instead of just the most well connected and mostly eliminated the corruption that brought down the Han court.
Republic Empire I think in terms of military prowess and political prowess he and Caesar are very similar. But I think Caesar genuinely wanted to save lives where Cao Cao would let his emotions get the better of him and routinely slaughtered innocents even many of his own men and didn't seem to have any remorse. I wonder if Cao Cao knew about Caesar
@@christopherthrobbin7951 You should watch Historia Civilis' videos - he does an entire career follow-through about Julius Caesar that's broken up into several videos. You'll learn that, actually, Caesar was quite prone to emotional tantrums as well and it further illustrates the similarities between the two. Also Caesar, like any political figure during the roman republic's period of rapid expansion, really was about attaining more power rather than some virtuous ideal such as "saving people". It was all about his career in the end, and establishing a legacy, just like Cao Cao.
@@raeaugustus586 In traditional Chinese cluture, a men normally have several names. When a noble men reach 20 years old, a courtesy name will be given. Mengde is Cao Cao's courtesy name, and Cao is his given name. Traditional, call someone with his given name is really rude and disrespectful. But don't worry, those courtesy names no longer exist in modern China in case you have some Chinese friends.
@@raeaugustus586 His another name given by himself. Many Chinese nobles have name like this at that time. His friends like to use this name rather than Cao in respect.
Cao Cao: "i would rather betray the world that have the world betray me" By the way that line was completely apocryphal or at least taken out of context. The translation got muddied but more accurately what Cao Cao actually said was, “I would rather betray men before they betray me.” You see he said men. He didn't say all men, not even the whole world either. He just wanted himself be alerted and aware of the people surrounding him. If you betray the whole world, who will follow you? Cao Cao knew that far more better than most people.
The whole occurrence in actual history was dubious at best. The first actual instance of this in historical text was from Weishu, and he never said this.
let me show you guys one of cao's poetry,by the way he's one of my favourate character in chinese history. Though the Tortoise Lives Long Cao Cao Though the tortoise blessed with magic powers lives long, Its days have their allotted span; Though winged serpents ride high on the mist, They turn to dust and ashes at the last; An old war-horse may be stabled, Yet still it longs to gallop a thousand miles; And a noble-hearted man though advanced in years Never abandons his proud aspirations. Man's span of life , whether long or short, Depends not on Heaven alone; One who eats well and keeps cheerful Can live to a great old age. And so , with joy in my heart, I hum this song.
In eastern side of things, Cao Cao wasnt seen as the “Darth Vader” of chinese history but rather a rational, strict and unethical but treats his generals like his own family. Cao Cao is more of an anti hero rather than a villain. He had his unethical side of things but he is only human, his skills greatly accommodates his imperfections
I think he exemplifies the Machiavellan Prince perfectly, the fact that people still discuss his personality and decisions is a testament to his complex character.
Good video, though I was a little disappointed to see no mention of Cao Cao's expedition against the Wuhuan. It's one of the most interesting campaigns from the period, as he ventured beyond China's borders on a risky expedition to defeat a potential future threat. It's also probably the closest he really came to losing, as the forced marches through winter and drought-starved land nearly killed him, and did kill Guo Jia. It was so dangerous that upon returning, Cao Cao rewarded the counselors who had advised against the expedition, as only good fortune had saved him.
@@arthurfisher1857 I meant losing the entire war. Red Cliffs was a loss for sure, but it just stopped Cao Cao from conquering the other kingdoms right away. His holdings were still fine and he didn't suffer that much for it - most of his forces were from the newly-acquired Jing province and most of his losses were from disease. Modern scholarship asserts that the actual losses from the battle have been vastly overstated as part of a tradition of storytelling that venerates the Shu side of things. Rafe de Crespigny goes so far as to claim it was more of an armed reconnaissance than an invasion, and that Red Cliffs was more of a skirmish than the epic battle of folklore. Cao Cao's expedition to the Wuhuan was much riskier. He encountered a much larger army, but won because he stumbled into them before they were prepared for battle. The harsh environmental conditions killed two of his prominent generals, and nearly killed him while he was stuck beyond China's borders in the winter, in a drought. He admitted afterwards that the entire thing had only worked by chance.
@@brettd2308 I could only guess, the lack of mention on the Wuhuan expedition is probably one of the way to make Cao Cao more of a villain in the novel. The battle of White wolf mountain was indeed one of the remarkable achievement he did
My god, had George RR Martin based his franchise on the Three Kingdoms instead of the War of Roses, he wouldn't even be a quarter done with all former's betrayals and dramas. It's like the Red Wedding on steroids.
Lol guess Guan Yu's death would be the red wedding. he had the greatest reputation out of the three kingdoms even wu the ones who betrayed him wanted him. Btw the sengoku jidai would be even worse if George RR Martin went with that.
No need, a thousand year later someone already wrote the famous book Romance of the 3 Kingdoms, which influenced the entire nation, including Japan, to date. Just look at the video games 20 years ago and now internet game.
The thing is Cao Cao chose the path of conquest. He could've just stayed quiet and strengthened the defenses in his territory after he gained enough and took control of the Emperor, then waited if the other regional lords would act against him. It makes perfect sense that he's considered a villain considering that he did do a lot of unsavory things throughout his path of conquest. Sure, he tried to re-stabilize the government, but his inability to persuade other regional lords to work together to rebuild the land and him choosing to just attack and try to conquer them didn't do good for the land in the long run. Even his descendants' reign eventually only last for few generations.
I've watched the drama War of Three Kingdoms 2010, it's truly a masterpiece, i've never seen such unique character like Cao Cao, he's nature is ruthless but effective, he's always planned a evil crafty tricks and scheme yet he was able to to pacify his domains. The warlords call him a crafty villain yet Cao Cao was succesful on campaigning on his own ways. I cant say he was a good guy but he has an ambition to unite and brought peace to the realm
@@minuteman3317 book worms think that it is a little bit more accurate, but the characters in 1994 one, their costumes, video quality and making is not good. the characters in 2010 one, make up etc are top notched
No, the acting from the 2010 version by some of the main characters are trash compared to to the 1994 version. CaoCao in 1994 version is more badass and much more interesting. The guy in 2010 version have goofy fake laughs.
It's rather fitting that the Warriors series portrays Cao Cao and Nobunaga very similarly. Both are generally perceived as evil by those who haven't looked much into the history... but, while they could be rather ruthless, they were less evil and instead were incredibly brilliant, ambitious, and immanently practical.
Nobunaga burned mount Hiei temple and everyone on it to the ground hence he was called evil - although at the time the monks were dangerously armed warriors who opposed Nobunaga and fought him for years and continued to do so after -
Dynasty Warriors taught me the names and battles and stories, Romance of the Three Kingdoms taught me the legend, it's nice to learn more about the real history.
It's important to mention that Cao Cao is not just a great statesman and military strategist, he is also a poet and leading writer at the time, together with his sons. Constant wars wiped out majority of Chinese population, China descends into chaos despite short lived Ji dynasty.
CA did their best to buy some coverage of its shoddy game on literally all history channels. I don't mind it though, that period of Chinese history is awesome.
The saying of "Speak of the Devil and he shall come..." refers back to Cao Cao. The saying or phrase has been heard by many but not many know where it came from.
This is incorrect. Yuan Shao was more like it. A better family name, 3 generations of prime ministers. Cao Cao was more like Little Finger (bad family name) or Jon Snow (raised an army from scratch)
@CXVII 117 R Cao Cao always had this splitting headache, so the physician recommended to cut open his skull. In 3rd century China. Not to mention the physician, Hua Tuo, was previously known to helped Guan Yu, one of his enemies.
@@alexanderchristopher6237 Having part of your skull opened was a fairly normal treatment for that type of sickness back in the day - trepanning. It could kill you but it could be performed safely - there are many skulls of people from history who had trepanned skulls, with the skull showing growth after the hole was bored, meaning the people in question did survive
All the youtubers I've seen, have tried their best to pronounce Chinese names correctly, but they can't because they are not a Chinese native. It's just like how this narrator isn't pronouncing most of his English words correctly, because he wasn't born in an English speaking country. Nothing's ever good enough for enthocentrists.
@@SBN89 Its not like that, those UA-camrs are just so far off its not even remotely in the range of "good enough", imagine someone pronounce "Dave" as "Bill", or "Alex" as "Ellen", its very similar to that effect, its just a lazy excuse for not doing a 5 seconds google pronunciation search.
@@TheRealIronMan I've heard Chinese immigrants pronounce English names/words waaaaay off, to the point where it sounded like another name/word. This is how accents work. Damn you East Asians for not doing a 5 second google pronunciation search!
With characters playing that big of a part in the novel / total war three kingdoms, I was hoping you guys will touch more on his management style and people under his command. Anyway, still a good intro video ! Keep it up.
Damn I've been hit by so many Three Kingdoms history videos this whole year (sponsor money seems infinite), I'm not complaining though since they are very interesting
Just got here from Extra Credits channel. So relieved to hear proper mandarin pronunciation after that rollercoaster of a video about the Three kingdoms. I had learned to forgive Cow Cow from dynasty warriors but Tao Tao?
Yes He’d even lose respect in Guan Yu if he ditched his sworn brothers, just as how he dropped his relations with Yu Jin for him slaying his rebellious brother-in-arm
when playing DW always found myself siding with wei and later jin, shu always seemed to self rightious to get anything done and wu seemed too indecisive
Cao Cao ws the best candidate to unite the 3K, all Red Cliff did was delay the inevitable unification of China under an ambitious figure who had the will and thrust to do the job. Looking at how poorly the Sima clan fared after they took over China and how the north was invaded by northern steppe people after Jin's internal wars it might be best had Cao Cao simply united China, at least then it will be under competent leadership. Say what you will about the so called Darth Vader of China, but the enemies of Westeros feared Tywin Lannister, and the enemies of the Galactic Empire- such as the Yuuzhan Vong directly stated that they feared a unified and militariestic regime under Emperor Palpatine.
I don't know, even if he did manage to unite China alive, remember that he never try to take the throne or laid claim to it, willing to remain a bureaucrat of han empire. It was his son who bestowed the emperor name to him. So it remain unsure whether he would remove emperor Xian and become the emperor. Given the importance of face people took at the time, its possible he would remain the prime minister until his death, and his son would then force abdication of emperor Xian, just like history. Also, the kingdom of Wei did pretty well in the defense of the northern border against the nomadic tribes even when the are fighting with the two other kingdoms. So this simply show how bad the Simas's ruled their empire.
I'm not sure if reuniting China would have prevented what happened later on. The problem with Wei was dynastic instability. Their first two emperors Cao Pi and Cao Rui though they were passable rulers didn't sit on the throne for very long before dying shortly after. This in effect left a child on the throne and left turmoil in the imperial court which Sima Yi and his family exploited to take power for themselves. Remember the Jin Dynasty did reunite China and for a time the country was stable and backed by a strong military. But things went awry due to family infighting and mediocre leadership. You see before his death, Jin's first emperor Sima Yan (Sima Yi's grandson) invested too many people from his clan into high military posts and governorships. He thought putting trusted family members into high positions would stabilize his dynasty more than the former ones which could have worked if his family wasn't so quarrelsome. Now that might not have matter had he left the empire in the hands of a competent leader, however for reasons only known to him, he left his throne to a mentally challenged son who was wholly unsuited to the business of ruling and had to be put under a regency. So as expected when he kicked the bucket things quickly deteriorated as his high ranking family members started fighting each other over who should be Sima Zhong's regent. This of course brought great instability and weakened the country and gave minority groups the opportunity to rise up and rebel against Han rule, which led to the Uprising of the Five Barbarians and that plunged China into a dark age which lasted for centuries.
@@muic4880 the problem was that there were many Han loyalists in his court and outside his court. Assuming the throne will give him more trouble than its worth. By the time Cao Pi came to the throne, the number of Han loyalists within Wei had been reduced to a small number. It doesn't mean Cao Cao doesn't want the throne, however. He had the emperor appointed him king of Wei. As someone not from the Liu family, he cannot be a feudal king of the empire. This is him basically giving the empire a big middle finger.
Cao Cao: One of the few people who couldn't forgive Kong Rong for his sharp tongue, despite being a great humanitarian and an otherwise bright spot in the dark era of the Three Kingdoms Period.
I played as Gongsun Zan and took a big portion of the north east and took out Cao Cao, it wasn’t until after that I watched videos like this one and realized I really changed history and replaced Cao Cao as one of the three kingdoms
Cao Cao always reminds me a lot of a combination between Julius Caesar and Augustus Caesar. The he knew how to capitalise on millitary success and turn it into political sucess as well.
I love this video! Sadly I don't have a computer powerful enough to play three kingdoms. Question: if I were to save up money for a few months, what would people recommend for the most reliable gaming set-up for Total War gaming?
My favorite character. Creative destruction Will u be doing profiles for generals like ma chao and guan yu too? Or is this only for warlord level characters?
I recommend reading the book Romance of the Three Kingdoms and watching the show Three Kingdoms. To better understand these larger than life characters.
There is an error in the map shown in your video. The Han did not dominate the Hangang(or Han river) area. At that time, the Hangang area was the territory of Baekje, the ancient kingdom of Korea. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baekje
If Chinese history interests you then i cannot recommend the movie Red Cliff enough to you. Some creative liberties taken of course but personally i find it to be one of the greatest movies China has ever made and that's saying a lot ;)
@10:38, this was the map roughly at the initial stages? There was still some minor consolidation and expansion of territory right? Like defeating other minor warlords and or them submitting and getting annexed to not get defeated?
Cao Cao will always be a personal hero to me. Villain my ass. He was a product of his time, and generally leaned towards legalist(ewww) policy... He wouldn't have been the only one. But he was probably the most just of them. No one was safe... Even family was subject to the law.
I don't understand why people portray him as a villain. In the context of the times, he wasn't more brutal or violent than the norm. He's not like Lu Bu, Mr "I'll betray anything with two legs and backstab people for the pettiest of petty reasons because I am worthless man child"
Because Chinese historians have a bias towards loyalists and restorationists. Liu Bei wanted to restore the Han unlike Cao Cao, therefore Cao Cao is considered to be morally wrong
@@hamzaferoz6162 Yeah I simplified a lot, but you can look up into it. Historians today, especially on youtube, tell you the history, but don't tell you how the history is written. Some people who record history are part of certain factions and have different interests, thus there's a bias.
the author of the famous book " Romance of the Three Kingdoms" was a subject lived under Liubei's rule, so he would portrait his lord better than the rest. Therefore, when Shu fell under the hand of Jin - the successor of the Wei Dynasty, he had a particular clear bias against the Jin and Wei kingdom.
@@vanlao6367 I am sorry but you are wrong, the author of the "Romance of the Three Kingdom" Luo Guanzhong lived in the Ming Dynasty era. The author of the "Record of the Three Kingdom" historical record, Chen Shou lived in Jin Dynasty and spent some time under Shu. Historically the record was about Wei, Jin, and Shu with Wu rather ignored, the novel changed it to be bias against Cao Cao cause Ming dynasty was under attack from the North, where Cao Cao was from.
I just realized that Chairman Mao is so similar to Cao cao. Literature, war and strategy, ambition, and their personality (which also leads to death of a large number of people). And they are both founders of a new country.
I think it means to represent Shanyue (山越), here is a wiki link for it en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanyue for it. Basically, they are a bunch of outlaws mixed up with local indigenous tribes, who would refuse the rule of central authority and commit brigandry along the way.
3:44 get's Lu Bu flash backs at Hu Lao Gate in DW4 *Shivers* IT'S LOO BOO LOO BOO HAS COME TO DESTROY US *get's flung off screen by his massive spear* AUHHHH
Once again a huge thanks to John Zhu for help with research and narration! If you want to learn more about the period you can check out his awesome show here: www.3kingdomspodcast.com/
so mao is chinas palpatine? is this is darthvader?
Invicta are you Chinese you sound Chinese
I started the podcast 3 days ago before finding this video and its really really good. Its very hard for me to keep track of all the character names but I really really recommend it. Also check out the 2010 tv series.
I was so surprised to click on an Invicta video and hear the voice of one of my favorite podcasts!!
Please use the original narrator
I find it very fascinating that both Rome and China suffered crisis at roughly the same time (Rome's Crisis of the Third Century and China's Three Kingdoms).
There was a cooling down of climate and thus less food.
Not to mention the collapse of the Parthian Empire as well.
@@0000-z4z Yep. There were lots of reasons they happened, but climate disruption & famine were the root cause of the instability. It's fascinating just how much of human history & warfare is tied to food supply - even many of the war zones going today erupted because of severe drought caused by warming trends.
@@brettd2308 It's interesting to see how corruption becomes worse during these periods as well, leading to the downfall of these empires as well.
Ole Fredrik Skjegstad it was caused by the plague that brought not only the end of the Han also the Parthians empire the one in India and vast depleted the Romans by killing huge numbers of people and killed forty per cent of the Han and Roman army, along with famine
Absolutely love the correct pronunciation
thanks! This was narrated by John Zhu who actually runs a show on the period called the Romance of the Three Kingdoms podcast.
I can't thank you enough, either. It was very good.
Agree. It's the simple things like that which other promoters overlook.
Ghost Except for the (somewhat) awkward English. Can’t tell if he’s a native speaker or not, but even native speakers can be unduly influenced by their parents’ idiosyncrasies, failing to adopt the general speech of the people around them in a like manner to non-immigrants. I’d certainly prefer it the other way round, i.e. no fidelity to the Chinese for smooth, enjoyable narration in English if necessary, of course there are those who could pull off both if necessary, though I doubt it’s necessary; I’m never going to discuss Chinese history in Chinese and don’t need to know how the Chinese would pronounce the words and names for any of my purposes in watching this kind of video. Therefore, I submit this entire native tribute (?) is poorly contrived and unwise. Plus, the script is apparently by Invicta anyway, notwithstanding the research credits.
It's not correct if you speak Cantonese. Which is the main language of the the Guangdong region in Southern China. No matter how hard China tries to get rid of Cantonese. Cantonese speakers still exist.
Cao Cao wasn't adopted by the Eunuch Cao Teng, his father Cao Song was.
ah, thanks for that correction!
@@InvictaHistory He was an adopted grandson of Eunuch.
It's the same concept.
I wanna share this video. It's a pretty good TV series about Cao Cao when he was younger if you're interested.
It has English sub and I'm binge watching. I'm currently on ep 10.
I get to see how corrupted the Han emperor really is. I think it's mainly the bad influence of a eunuch. The Emperor never care about the common people. Then the yellow turban rebellion make thing interesting.
Give this drama a swirl if you haven't.
I love how they reveal Liu Bei darker side.
New Chinese Drama | Cao Cao 01 Eng Sub 曹操 | Romance of The Three Kingdoms 1080P
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Cao Cao is so famous in Vietnam that we created a way of saying "I'm having diarrhea"
Is to say "I'm being chased by Cao Cao" instead, meaning you're so blindly running toward the toilet that not even bother about anything around you.
Which originally took place in The battle of Changban, where Liu Bei was so in hurry running from Cao Cao that he left his wife and son behind.
Thats hilarious 😂
Brilliant ! And we all have had that moment in our lives ! xD
Dang... lol
Apperently when lu bu took over liu bei's territory he returned his wife and son unharmed. Liu bei has a trsck record of leaving his family behind it seems.
And as Dynasty Warriors 5 stated, Zhao Yun, a vassal serving under Liu Bei, risked his life going back to rescue the warlord's family in Changban.
Cao Cao = *The Glorious name of a worthy OP Villain of the Historical Anime Session*
All hail Cow Cow
Or a badass lawful neutral/lawful evil protagonist
@Lord Voldemort Twynn doesn't even come close lol. Cao Cao's historic achievements are crazy, especially on the administration side. He revamped the entire civil examination system, had amazing agriculture reforms and allowed peasants to hold high positions at court. His son and grandson also did similar reforms such as allowing females to join the court as actual civil servants etc..
Nobunaga v Cao Cao
Two ruthless conquerors
Only one will prevail
From other point of view, Cao Mengde is a true pragmatist hero of the Han, protecting the last vestiges of the dying Han from usurpers like Liu Bei, Yuan Shao, and Yuan Shu (and later Sun Quan) despite multiple occasions that he could usurp the han
Love how 80,000 strong army in China is "only 80k".
Considering the Xiongnu can easily amass an army of similar size, yeah, 80k is quite pathetic.
Especially when you look at the histories of Europe and the greatest battles on English soil a thousand years later has troops on both sides combing to 40k
@@rondkrows9100 and China has historical been better at administration than the Romans and Medieval Europe, with much higher population densities. The higher numbers makes sense
Actually it includes the people supporting the army like medical teams, people carrying food or weapons, builders etc. So it may only be 50-60k soldiers.
@@Renaldo015 No it is not. In the Xiongnu campaigns the two 60k Han armies were supported by 300k men. These were front line troops. The support troops were many times their number
Out of all the great warlords of the warring states period, Cao Cao stands head and shoulders above the rest, since he led the Wei in forming China.
He is indeed my favorite and I love all the little stories that exist about him such as the one with the grain officer.
Is no one going to appreciate that Wei pun? Intentional or not
@@InvictaHistory Agreed. He was in essence the Julius Caesar of Ancient Imperial China.
Just one thing with your comment. Warring States period actually refers to the later half of the Eastern Zhou dynasty. So your statement would be wrong because Cao Cao is not of that period which is couple of hundred years before him.
While history book said 3 Kingdom, Wei kingdom accounted for 6 out of 9 provinces of the late Han Empire. Civil war and unrested might have killed many but the population of Wei was > Shu + Wu. The Wei army needed rebuilding but they were in much stronger position particularly when Shu was no longer allied to Wu. Cao Cao's sun Cao Pei should/could have done the re-unification job if not because of dying young.
One of my personal favorite warlord of the Three Kingdoms. I do admire of his brilliance on military, governance, and even the arts. Sure, he wasn’t perfect but he was good what he did. I do call Cao Cao as Julius Caesar of Three Kingdoms.
Agreed. Despite being treated literally as the devil of Chinese culture there is no doubt he was a very accomplished administrator, poet and general who revived Sun Tzu's The Art of War and made it popular again. As a guy who understood the importance of having enough food to feed your army from the get-go, he instituted beneficial agricultural reforms to make sure his military granaries always had sufficient supply and this ended up ensuring civilians under his rule had enough to eat as well. Plus he also made public education accessible to all levels of society to ensure his government would have the most talented men running it instead of just the most well connected and mostly eliminated the corruption that brought down the Han court.
@@barbiquearea I see him as a practical man. He simply do what he must do like any good general would. I don't know why people see him as villain.
Republic Empire I think in terms of military prowess and political prowess he and Caesar are very similar. But I think Caesar genuinely wanted to save lives where Cao Cao would let his emotions get the better of him and routinely slaughtered innocents even many of his own men and didn't seem to have any remorse. I wonder if Cao Cao knew about Caesar
Christopher Throbbin that’s a excellent good point.
@@christopherthrobbin7951 You should watch Historia Civilis' videos - he does an entire career follow-through about Julius Caesar that's broken up into several videos. You'll learn that, actually, Caesar was quite prone to emotional tantrums as well and it further illustrates the similarities between the two. Also Caesar, like any political figure during the roman republic's period of rapid expansion, really was about attaining more power rather than some virtuous ideal such as "saving people". It was all about his career in the end, and establishing a legacy, just like Cao Cao.
Cao Mengde, Cao Mengde. An Able Statesman in times of peace, and a Hero of Chaos in times of war.
A question: Is it not Cao Cao? How is it then styled Mengde? His real name? I don't understand..
@@raeaugustus586 In traditional Chinese cluture, a men normally have several names. When a noble men reach 20 years old, a courtesy name will be given. Mengde is Cao Cao's courtesy name, and Cao is his given name. Traditional, call someone with his given name is really rude and disrespectful. But don't worry, those courtesy names no longer exist in modern China in case you have some Chinese friends.
@@raeaugustus586 His another name given by himself. Many Chinese nobles have name like this at that time. His friends like to use this name rather than Cao in respect.
Cao Ah Man
@@Adam0Yahya That's his baby name
Cao Cao: "i would rather betray the world that have the world betray me"
By the way that line was completely apocryphal or at least taken out of context. The translation got muddied but more accurately what Cao Cao actually said was, “I would rather betray men before they betray me.” You see he said men. He didn't say all men, not even the whole world either. He just wanted himself be alerted and aware of the people surrounding him. If you betray the whole world, who will follow you? Cao Cao knew that far more better than most people.
The "I'd rather betray the world" version is more memorable though. Not to mention best Cao Mengde from the Three Kingdoms 2010 tv show said it.
The whole occurrence in actual history was dubious at best. The first actual instance of this in historical text was from Weishu, and he never said this.
My favorite. Clever, resourceful and talented administrator and leader.
let me show you guys one of cao's poetry,by the way he's one of my favourate character in chinese history.
Though the Tortoise Lives Long
Cao Cao
Though the tortoise blessed with magic powers lives long,
Its days have their allotted span;
Though winged serpents ride high on the mist,
They turn to dust and ashes at the last;
An old war-horse may be stabled,
Yet still it longs to gallop a thousand miles;
And a noble-hearted man though advanced in years
Never abandons his proud aspirations.
Man's span of life , whether long or short,
Depends not on Heaven alone;
One who eats well and keeps cheerful
Can live to a great old age.
And so , with joy in my heart,
I hum this song.
In eastern side of things, Cao Cao wasnt seen as the “Darth Vader” of chinese history but rather a rational, strict and unethical but treats his generals like his own family.
Cao Cao is more of an anti hero rather than a villain. He had his unethical side of things but he is only human, his skills greatly accommodates his imperfections
I think he exemplifies the Machiavellan Prince perfectly, the fact that people still discuss his personality and decisions is a testament to his complex character.
I would compare him to Julius Caesar, using pragmatic means in war and ruling.
I think Villain in political is meaning idiot Tyrant who make own state fall and Civilians get trouble
Good video, though I was a little disappointed to see no mention of Cao Cao's expedition against the Wuhuan. It's one of the most interesting campaigns from the period, as he ventured beyond China's borders on a risky expedition to defeat a potential future threat. It's also probably the closest he really came to losing, as the forced marches through winter and drought-starved land nearly killed him, and did kill Guo Jia. It was so dangerous that upon returning, Cao Cao rewarded the counselors who had advised against the expedition, as only good fortune had saved him.
Closest he ever came to losing? He lost big at Red Cliffs
@@arthurfisher1857 I guess that was a Pyrrhic victory in some sense.
@@arthurfisher1857 I meant losing the entire war. Red Cliffs was a loss for sure, but it just stopped Cao Cao from conquering the other kingdoms right away. His holdings were still fine and he didn't suffer that much for it - most of his forces were from the newly-acquired Jing province and most of his losses were from disease. Modern scholarship asserts that the actual losses from the battle have been vastly overstated as part of a tradition of storytelling that venerates the Shu side of things. Rafe de Crespigny goes so far as to claim it was more of an armed reconnaissance than an invasion, and that Red Cliffs was more of a skirmish than the epic battle of folklore.
Cao Cao's expedition to the Wuhuan was much riskier. He encountered a much larger army, but won because he stumbled into them before they were prepared for battle. The harsh environmental conditions killed two of his prominent generals, and nearly killed him while he was stuck beyond China's borders in the winter, in a drought. He admitted afterwards that the entire thing had only worked by chance.
@@brettd2308 I could only guess, the lack of mention on the Wuhuan expedition is probably one of the way to make Cao Cao more of a villain in the novel. The battle of White wolf mountain was indeed one of the remarkable achievement he did
Brett Devall got any RdC pdf? Would like to check this out for myself
Cao Cao is delicious. Especially with milk
I see what you did there, mate.
Dad, get off the internet.
best candy ever
Cow Cow
My god, had George RR Martin based his franchise on the Three Kingdoms instead of the War of Roses, he wouldn't even be a quarter done with all former's betrayals and dramas. It's like the Red Wedding on steroids.
Lol guess Guan Yu's death would be the red wedding. he had the greatest reputation out of the three kingdoms even wu the ones who betrayed him wanted him.
Btw the sengoku jidai would be even worse if George RR Martin went with that.
Who knows maybe he has read about the Three Kingdoms and is saving that material for an even bigger book series centered around Yi Ti.
No need, a thousand year later someone already wrote the famous book Romance of the 3 Kingdoms, which influenced the entire nation, including Japan, to date. Just look at the video games 20 years ago and now internet game.
Can GoT fans get any more obnoxious?
I think he might have included inspirations from 3Kingdom to be honest. There are quite some similarities, especially in character setup in season 1.
I’ve always admired him and haven’t thought of him as a “villain”.
He only murdered over 100,000 civilians when he invaded Xu province after all, as retribution for the death of his father.
@@someguy43210 is that true? Or another Luo Guanzhong's propaganda?
Max Johnson I admired him as he was an effective war lord. I’d still also say others were potentially more villainous. However you make a great point
The thing is Cao Cao chose the path of conquest. He could've just stayed quiet and strengthened the defenses in his territory after he gained enough and took control of the Emperor, then waited if the other regional lords would act against him.
It makes perfect sense that he's considered a villain considering that he did do a lot of unsavory things throughout his path of conquest. Sure, he tried to re-stabilize the government, but his inability to persuade other regional lords to work together to rebuild the land and him choosing to just attack and try to conquer them didn't do good for the land in the long run. Even his descendants' reign eventually only last for few generations.
Valeriyan that’s a fair evaluation
I've watched the drama War of Three Kingdoms 2010, it's truly a masterpiece, i've never seen such unique character like Cao Cao, he's nature is ruthless but effective, he's always planned a evil crafty tricks and scheme yet he was able to to pacify his domains. The warlords call him a crafty villain yet Cao Cao was succesful on campaigning on his own ways. I cant say he was a good guy but he has an ambition to unite and brought peace to the realm
Cao Ahman! Cao Mengde! Watch the series Three Kingdoms (2010). They've got great actors playing these key characters, especially Cao Cao and Liu Bei.
They are the absolute best
Agreed. That series was exceptional.
what about the 1994 version?
@@minuteman3317 book worms think that it is a little bit more accurate, but the characters in 1994 one, their costumes, video quality and making is not good.
the characters in 2010 one, make up etc are top notched
No, the acting from the 2010 version by some of the main characters are trash compared to to the 1994 version. CaoCao in 1994 version is more badass and much more interesting. The guy in 2010 version have goofy fake laughs.
Fortunately in China, they have many high grounds
Do you support Cao Cao? he reminds me of Napoleon.
remind me of jedi knight who won't achieve it lol.
It's rather fitting that the Warriors series portrays Cao Cao and Nobunaga very similarly. Both are generally perceived as evil by those who haven't looked much into the history... but, while they could be rather ruthless, they were less evil and instead were incredibly brilliant, ambitious, and immanently practical.
Nobunaga burned mount Hiei temple and everyone on it to the ground hence he was called evil - although at the time the monks were dangerously armed warriors who opposed Nobunaga and fought him for years and continued to do so after -
Dynasty Warriors taught me the names and battles and stories, Romance of the Three Kingdoms taught me the legend, it's nice to learn more about the real history.
Aww shit, I didn't realize John Zhu did work with Invicta. I needed this in my life. His ROTK Podcast is a frequent walking companion of mine.
It's important to mention that Cao Cao is not just a great statesman and military strategist, he is also a poet and leading writer at the time, together with his sons.
Constant wars wiped out majority of Chinese population, China descends into chaos despite short lived Ji dynasty.
Finally my favorite warlord
Im surprised historians call him the “Darth Vader” of Chinese history. I perceived him as the main hero guy that everyone wants to be like
Speak of Cao Cao, and I appear.
I've heard that that's the Chinese equivalent to "Speak of the Devil"
@@InvictaHistory Kind of, yes.
Every history channel is talking about the three kingdoms.
CA did their best to buy some coverage of its shoddy game on literally all history channels. I don't mind it though, that period of Chinese history is awesome.
It was a truly remarkable period in Chinese history.
Not even 10 seconds in and the pronunciation game is on point, instant thumbs up
Cao cao is my favorite, such a complicated dude a hero and a villain
Cao Cao made one blunder and he lost the opportunity to win in his lifetime.
His biggest mistake was not bringing a weather man with him to Red Cliffs.
No one concern about weather with such manpower
@@barbiquearea Pfft even Khong Ming get his tactics BTFO by a simple RAIN!
@@barbiquearea i always wonder had Guo Jia not die to his illness, would red cliff ended differently?
John Zhu has an amazing podcast on the Three Kingdoms. A suprise to be sure, but a welcome one seeing him on one of my favorite Roman history channels
Why no mention that Cao Cao was one of only two generals in the coalition to keep pursuing Dong Zhuo after he retreated from Luo Yang?
The saying of "Speak of the Devil and he shall come..." refers back to Cao Cao. The saying or phrase has been heard by many but not many know where it came from.
I really wish Total War bought the Three Kingdoms 2010 Cao Cao actor's likeness.
Kudos for the great pronunciation! Just a bit surprised Oakley didn't do it himself. His Nahuatl was, to my ears at least, pretty great.
Cao cao is my favorite.
Cao Cao was the Tywin Lannister of the Three Kingdoms period
Tywin meets Littlefinger.
And a bit of Stannis because promoted people based on merit and took upholding the law very seriously.
This is incorrect. Yuan Shao was more like it. A better family name, 3 generations of prime ministers. Cao Cao was more like Little Finger (bad family name) or Jon Snow (raised an army from scratch)
@@cyrilchui2811 but in terms of cunning and politicking they are similar
Cyril Chui Comparing a political and military genius to an idiot like Jon snow is short sighted.
Cao Cao was no villain. He always took the accurate actions to bring peace to the divided land.
@CXVII 117 R The physician did planned to kill him or so they say.
@CXVII 117 R Cao Cao always had this splitting headache, so the physician recommended to cut open his skull. In 3rd century China. Not to mention the physician, Hua Tuo, was previously known to helped Guan Yu, one of his enemies.
Anti Villain.
@@alexanderchristopher6237 Having part of your skull opened was a fairly normal treatment for that type of sickness back in the day - trepanning. It could kill you but it could be performed safely - there are many skulls of people from history who had trepanned skulls, with the skull showing growth after the hole was bored, meaning the people in question did survive
That correct pronunciation though
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Holy shit. First you tuber that pronounced Cao cao properly
Saved not only for the details and visuals it also for the pronunciation. Excellent work you guys
Every TW youtuber should watch this video at least once so they can know the real pronunciation of those Chinese names.
All the youtubers I've seen, have tried their best to pronounce Chinese names correctly, but they can't because they are not a Chinese native. It's just like how this narrator isn't pronouncing most of his English words correctly, because he wasn't born in an English speaking country. Nothing's ever good enough for enthocentrists.
@@SBN89 Its not like that, those UA-camrs are just so far off its not even remotely in the range of "good enough", imagine someone pronounce "Dave" as "Bill", or "Alex" as "Ellen", its very similar to that effect, its just a lazy excuse for not doing a 5 seconds google pronunciation search.
@@TheRealIronMan I've heard Chinese immigrants pronounce English names/words waaaaay off, to the point where it sounded like another name/word. This is how accents work.
Damn you East Asians for not doing a 5 second google pronunciation search!
I'm so glad this is continuing! Thank you
Cao Mengde - The Ruler China needed in the Ancient times. Sad to see that he is portrayed as a villain based on the novel
I'm a little surprised that you didn't mention his attempt at assassinating Dong Zhuo, and escaping with his life.
Much much better than Extra history's attempt. I got so confused by the middle of their part 2.
Dynasy Warriors made me fall in love with his period in history.
Cao Cao is more a Palpatine then a Vader.
“MY AMBITION CANNOT BE STOPPED!”
Interesting that both Cao Cao and Julius Caesar died the same day. (Although more violently for one)
Such flavorful narration. Real cool video.
Thanks. I enjoyed the video clip
John Zhu is a delight
I appreciate the effort put into correct pronounciation. Good job!
With characters playing that big of a part in the novel / total war three kingdoms, I was hoping you guys will touch more on his management style and people under his command.
Anyway, still a good intro video ! Keep it up.
Man, now I really want to play Total War: Three Kingdoms.
Cao cao was not adopted, his father was
Lmao I thought he was doing a Chinese accent 🤣😂
Wait, the narrator it is you. I listen to your TK narration repeatedly for entire covid.
Wtf
Damn I've been hit by so many Three Kingdoms history videos this whole year (sponsor money seems infinite), I'm not complaining though since they are very interesting
Just got here from Extra Credits channel. So relieved to hear proper mandarin pronunciation after that rollercoaster of a video about the Three kingdoms. I had learned to forgive Cow Cow from dynasty warriors but Tao Tao?
oo oo John Zhu I recognized his voice at once! I'm listening to his podcast atm for the Water Margin 100% recommended
I am chinese, and I will make a speech about Cao Cao
Video name: 谁是曹操
Cool to let him narrate, but I prefer your voice. you add weight, depth, and culture into the history.
Is it true that Cao Cao had massive respect for Guan Yu? I've read the biography, games, and seen some of the movies.
Yes
He’d even lose respect in Guan Yu if he ditched his sworn brothers, just as how he dropped his relations with Yu Jin for him slaying his rebellious brother-in-arm
when playing DW always found myself siding with wei and later jin, shu always seemed to self rightious to get anything done and wu seemed too indecisive
Cao Cao ws the best candidate to unite the 3K, all Red Cliff did was delay the inevitable unification of China under an ambitious figure who had the will and thrust to do the job.
Looking at how poorly the Sima clan fared after they took over China and how the north was invaded by northern steppe people after Jin's internal wars it might be best had Cao Cao simply united China, at least then it will be under competent leadership.
Say what you will about the so called Darth Vader of China, but the enemies of Westeros feared Tywin Lannister, and the enemies of the Galactic Empire- such as the Yuuzhan Vong directly stated that they feared a unified and militariestic regime under Emperor Palpatine.
I don't know, even if he did manage to unite China alive, remember that he never try to take the throne or laid claim to it, willing to remain a bureaucrat of han empire. It was his son who bestowed the emperor name to him. So it remain unsure whether he would remove emperor Xian and become the emperor.
Given the importance of face people took at the time, its possible he would remain the prime minister until his death, and his son would then force abdication of emperor Xian, just like history.
Also, the kingdom of Wei did pretty well in the defense of the northern border against the nomadic tribes even when the are fighting with the two other kingdoms. So this simply show how bad the Simas's ruled their empire.
I'm not sure if reuniting China would have prevented what happened later on. The problem with Wei was dynastic instability. Their first two emperors Cao Pi and Cao Rui though they were passable rulers didn't sit on the throne for very long before dying shortly after. This in effect left a child on the throne and left turmoil in the imperial court which Sima Yi and his family exploited to take power for themselves. Remember the Jin Dynasty did reunite China and for a time the country was stable and backed by a strong military. But things went awry due to family infighting and mediocre leadership. You see before his death, Jin's first emperor Sima Yan (Sima Yi's grandson) invested too many people from his clan into high military posts and governorships. He thought putting trusted family members into high positions would stabilize his dynasty more than the former ones which could have worked if his family wasn't so quarrelsome. Now that might not have matter had he left the empire in the hands of a competent leader, however for reasons only known to him, he left his throne to a mentally challenged son who was wholly unsuited to the business of ruling and had to be put under a regency. So as expected when he kicked the bucket things quickly deteriorated as his high ranking family members started fighting each other over who should be Sima Zhong's regent. This of course brought great instability and weakened the country and gave minority groups the opportunity to rise up and rebel against Han rule, which led to the Uprising of the Five Barbarians and that plunged China into a dark age which lasted for centuries.
@@muic4880 the problem was that there were many Han loyalists in his court and outside his court. Assuming the throne will give him more trouble than its worth. By the time Cao Pi came to the throne, the number of Han loyalists within Wei had been reduced to a small number.
It doesn't mean Cao Cao doesn't want the throne, however. He had the emperor appointed him king of Wei. As someone not from the Liu family, he cannot be a feudal king of the empire. This is him basically giving the empire a big middle finger.
Cao Cao: One of the few people who couldn't forgive Kong Rong for his sharp tongue, despite being a great humanitarian and an otherwise bright spot in the dark era of the Three Kingdoms Period.
I played as Gongsun Zan and took a big portion of the north east and took out Cao Cao, it wasn’t until after that I watched videos like this one and realized I really changed history and replaced Cao Cao as one of the three kingdoms
You explain very good also you did a great job in Romance of The Three Kingdoms!!!
Cao Cao always reminds me a lot of a combination between Julius Caesar and Augustus Caesar.
The he knew how to capitalise on millitary success and turn it into political sucess as well.
Wonderfull, such a quality video, great job.
I love this video! Sadly I don't have a computer powerful enough to play three kingdoms. Question: if I were to save up money for a few months, what would people recommend for the most reliable gaming set-up for Total War gaming?
"The Darth Vader of Chinese Culture" is such a clean and accurate depiction of his romanticized figure...
Tons of stuff on the three kingdoms have been showing up on my feed lately. This video game must be sponsoring a ton of history channels.
My favorite character. Creative destruction
Will u be doing profiles for generals like ma chao and guan yu too? Or is this only for warlord level characters?
I recommend reading the book Romance of the Three Kingdoms and watching the show Three Kingdoms. To better understand these larger than life characters.
There is an error in the map shown in your video.
The Han did not dominate the Hangang(or Han river) area. At that time, the Hangang area was the territory of Baekje, the ancient kingdom of Korea.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baekje
Cao Cao wasn't adopted by Cao Teng. His father Cao Song was adopted by Cao Teng though. Cao Song was Cao Cao's real father.
Hey I know that voice! Romance of the Three Kingdoms podcast FTW!!!
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yup, thats John Zhu!
If Chinese history interests you then i cannot recommend the movie Red Cliff enough to you.
Some creative liberties taken of course but personally i find it to be one of the greatest movies China has ever made and that's saying a lot ;)
So excited for the game!
Cao Cao n Dong Zhuo are heroes
This is why killing off Cao Cao has always been my top to-do list whenever I'm playing the game. Mf is way too dangerous to be kept alive.
“It is better to be wronged than to do wrong.“ - Socrates
“Go eat shit assholes, I'm taking all of ya'll down with me!“ -Cao Cao
@10:38, this was the map roughly at the initial stages? There was still some minor consolidation and expansion of territory right? Like defeating other minor warlords and or them submitting and getting annexed to not get defeated?
Cao Cao will always be a personal hero to me. Villain my ass. He was a product of his time, and generally leaned towards legalist(ewww) policy... He wouldn't have been the only one. But he was probably the most just of them. No one was safe... Even family was subject to the law.
I don't understand why people portray him as a villain. In the context of the times, he wasn't more brutal or violent than the norm. He's not like Lu Bu, Mr "I'll betray anything with two legs and backstab people for the pettiest of petty reasons because I am worthless man child"
Cao Cao was also a Philosopher and master strategist. I don't know why he is seen as a villian
Because Chinese historians have a bias towards loyalists and restorationists. Liu Bei wanted to restore the Han unlike Cao Cao, therefore Cao Cao is considered to be morally wrong
@@xrli Quite Ironic considering China's entire history is full of rise and falls
@@hamzaferoz6162 Yeah I simplified a lot, but you can look up into it. Historians today, especially on youtube, tell you the history, but don't tell you how the history is written. Some people who record history are part of certain factions and have different interests, thus there's a bias.
the author of the famous book " Romance of the Three Kingdoms" was a subject lived under Liubei's rule, so he would portrait his lord better than the rest. Therefore, when Shu fell under the hand of Jin - the successor of the Wei Dynasty, he had a particular clear bias against the Jin and Wei kingdom.
@@vanlao6367 I am sorry but you are wrong, the author of the "Romance of the Three Kingdom" Luo Guanzhong lived in the Ming Dynasty era.
The author of the "Record of the Three Kingdom" historical record, Chen Shou lived in Jin Dynasty and spent some time under Shu.
Historically the record was about Wei, Jin, and Shu with Wu rather ignored, the novel changed it to be bias against Cao Cao cause Ming dynasty was under attack from the North, where Cao Cao was from.
@0:43 whats that cutout? Is that like a rebel independent region that said screw you empire
10:10 Cao Cao uses his unique Proxy War ability.
I just realized that Chairman Mao is so similar to Cao cao. Literature, war and strategy, ambition, and their personality (which also leads to death of a large number of people). And they are both founders of a new country.
Mao's economic plans were garbage compared to Cao.
Total war is really forcing everyone on this Three Kingdoms bandwagon. Not a bad thing l dig it
Can you make a video of those manga : Ad Astra (Hannibal barca vs Scipio) and Kingdom (Warring States period
) ?
I think you will enjoy them.
I don't hate Cao Cao at all. I respect the man. But if I lived in his era. I would also be wary of any potential scheme's he had in mind.
only if you're his enemies. he treated his subjects well. he even made sure commoners are fed and educated
0:35 I've been wondering for awhile now, along Wu's eastern coast, what seemingly neutral kingdom was there?
I think it means to represent Shanyue (山越), here is a wiki link for it en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanyue for it. Basically, they are a bunch of outlaws mixed up with local indigenous tribes, who would refuse the rule of central authority and commit brigandry along the way.
@@yimingliu7906 you sure it's not the Minyue 闽越?
3:44 get's Lu Bu flash backs at Hu Lao Gate in DW4 *Shivers* IT'S LOO BOO LOO BOO HAS COME TO DESTROY US *get's flung off screen by his massive spear* AUHHHH