Roland System-8 - Mysticism Soundset
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2020
- Welcome to Mysticism!
A new and abstract sound bank for the Roland System-8, proudly designed by Soundsauca. Diverging from the well trodden path of analog emulations and 80’s retro remakes, Mysticism takes your System-8 on a left field journey deep into Roland’s ACB synth engine. Utilising its refined oscillator algorithms, iridescent filters and effects, and immersing them into a mystical world of swirling sonic adventure!
The System-8 is already packed full of vintage Jupiter Juno & JX tones, and that’s where this sound bank’s possibilities only begin!
Individual demos are available here:
www.soundsauca.com/sounds/mys...
A rundown of the Roland System-8 and some of it's features:
www.soundsauca.com/roland-sys...
No external effects used. Limiter on the output due to resonant peaks etc - hope that's ok!
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- Sideband Sensation
Without a doubt the sideband filter types are my favourite System-8 feature. With it, colourful glassy fragments smear downwards in sounds like “Forest Glade”, whilst the distant undulation of the title preset - “Mysticism” softly absorbs your sonic senses. “Lost Sailors” conjures aquatic memories of times gone by, whereas “Space Tapestry” sews together newer sci-fi arpeggios.
- Formant Fondant
Another sweet feature with the System-8 is the formant filters, which enable vowel like textures to be imparted on the synths oscillators. I’m palpably (sad I know!) proud of the preset “Sith Lord” with it’s deep and sinister whispers that Emperor Palpatine might hold a light sabre to, and “Formant Fairies” which might fit nicely into some EDM genre or other. Whilst another highlight is “Ahh 1080”, but steady on man… leave that JV alone!
- Frequenting FM
FM on the System-8 is FM for the rest of us. It’s refreshing to be able to get many of the best FM timbres and process them through the S-8’s filters and FX. Beautiful EPs like “Much is Clear” and “Ellie Scolding” hold up next to deep ambiences such as “Ionospheres” and “Stella Sails”.
There’s more to discover, with a JD-990 sound or two creeping in! But I will shut up with my superlative laden prose and let you decide below with the audio demos.
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Great and wonderful work you've done here! Truly incredible soundscapes. And yes, the Roland System 8 is a true synthesizer monster. I've loved Roland Sounds since the beginning. I have the Roland System-8 and many others love it and will certainly not give it up again. Thank you for these wonderful sounds, you can listen to them for hours!!! Sometimes I got goosebumps but also tears in my eyes :-) If I didn't have a System-8 yet, I would buy one now at the latest😀
This Soundset is really inspiring, I ended up buying a System-8 and it's been huge fun jamming with this patch bank in particular - well worth the money, thanks!
I’m really glad to hear that! The System-8 is a truly wonderful sounding instrument. Mysticism has been well received albeit quite unconventional compared with other sound banks. It’s one of my favourites though and I still load it up and dream away playing!
The System 8 is Wonderland. Thank you
Very nice soundset !
Just bought this. Excited to play with these sounds.
Ah thank you 😊 I really hope you like them. One of my favourite banks.
Amazing work. Thank you for making those available for purchase.
It's a pleasure Steingrímur. Really pleased you're happy with them!
Beautiful! Thanks for sharing and for also sharing your views re the synth
Glad you found the info on it, I must add it up on the description actually.
Are you kidding me. How come i missed this - i like it a lot. Really nice mate :)
Hey man! How you doing! Mysticism is a special bank for me. Back when I had my Mojo! Thanks alot!
These are all beautiful. I'm very impressed with your work! Regards.
Thanks Peter. System-8 has some quite unique qualities beyond its excellent analog modelling abilities. Best wishes:)
Really beautiful patches, excellent work!! Hope you upload some more videos soon
I’m really glad you like them. I appreciate that very much. Recently I’ve become a bit sad and had a few problems with depression. I’m really hoping to overcome this and get back to some sound design 🤞
Super impressive and mystical sound set! Huge like & subscribe!!! 👍
Really appreciate the support. All the best to you!! 👍
These sound amazing
Thank you 😊
Inspired me , great stuff
Thank you v much 👍
Amazing sounds! They show the true capabilities of the System-8, more than the factory presets could do. Mysticism should be a must-have for every System-8 owner!
Thank you so much for your support @matt one. System-8 is such a versatile synthesizer that goes far beyond the analog modelling it’s known for. All the best 👍
I suspect you also programmed several patches for the Waldorf iridium and those videos convinced me to buy the iridium keyboard.
Now I am checking out this system 8 video and I’m convinced I want a system 8.
These companies owe you a percentage of each synth they sell.
And your presentations of these sounds are by far the best I’ve seen. Too many fools trying to show off their hands instead of the sounds.
Thank You! Tasty, juicy, understated, and fresh sounds that transport the listener. I will be buying this sound set for damn sure!
I owned a system 8 back in 2017 and sold it to buy another synth. Clearly the system 8 has been augmented quite a bit in the last 6 years. It may be Roland’s best yet.
I own a jd-xa and it’s going to get lonely after I get the system 8
Hi Brian. Thanks for your post. Actually I've never touched an Iridium! I'd love to but it's a bit pricey for me. "Companies" - I've had dealings with a few now. Some have been very open & friendly (the sort of open mindedness that can make things happen) & others that have taken an obvious dislike for me!
I'm not averse to working with anyone, however I've decided to keep doing things as I do as I don't see it as purely sound design. It's also an auditory/visual presentation of a synth. I guess that makes me a "hobbyist" and not a "pro". I can live with that moniker! I've never fitted in and, having considered it a few times recently I've decided not to. That's not to say I don't/won't beta test/sound design for anyone, but getting onboard the corporate Choo Choo ain't gonna work for me.
System-8 is a great synth for sure with some esoteric features that IMHO are often overlooked. With this bank I tried unearthing some of that. V-Synth is another you should check, some of the System-8 algorithms started life there, albeit more lo-fi.
Great sounds from the System-8 well done :)
Thanks James!
Suppa nice sounds!
Glad you like!
Good sound. You feel it. Great. System 8 , as it should sounding.
Thanks Beloyar. Bit of a slow burner this bank. Maybe too abstract...Who knows!
@strangerhythm Why not try the Roland Cloud plugin first? Good way to see if you like it and cheap!
Very nice patches! Its the style what I want in a synthesizer, pads, atmosphere, ambient, abstract, and so on that way.
I was always a fan of Roland, most of my synths are Roland and they will always be... sound and price, a nice combination as Roland always did. Even my first synth I bought a very long time ago was an ARP Omni2 and a Korg MS20. Unfortunately i dont have both anymore, the ARP stll doesnt go out of my memory. Later I had a Jupiter 4 and a SH-09 and a SH 101... the Jupiter was great but limited, I sold it long time ago. In fact I am a guitar player, and I did spend all the money in pedals and effect racks etc, for guitar. I bought the latest Roland guitar synthesizer GR 55, but after one year using it I sold it... the cable and the pick up on my Strato were to much for my mobility. Was a great guitar synth, but I was sick of the cable, and honestly wasnt my thing talking about freedom to play the guitar.
Years before I bought a D-50 was a famous synth that time... I still have it. The memory cards were expensive, and sometimes the battery was over, and data lost. I bought a JD-800 when it came out, the best synth I ever had... I think was the best synth Roland did... after the Jupiter 8. A tragedy happened some years after when a red brown liquid started to come out under the keys, and metal pieces falling from... its well know world wide this big mistake in the glue under the keys for those metal pieces to give some weight to them. the glue falling did enter in the contacts and some keys didnt work anymore. I was so sad about, I wrote an email to Roland, but no answer. Still can use it with MIDI. I bought some months after a JD990, and the expansion "Vintage Synths" for it... it is till now the main synth I use, and still alive...even the cards (I have 20 of them... more money for batteries, etc). For bass lines, when I need it, I use a Roland alpha Juno1, I love it... even I play bass guitar in my songs most. Curiosity; I have also a Yamaha CS1X... not bad. Well... sorry that I wrote too much lol... you know how musicians are. Hugs! I did follow you at Soudcloud and insta by the way! I also have a cat... cat lover are nice ppl! 😹
Wow! Love the enthusiasm here! No problem, you can write away! I get it! It's always nice to talk synth shop. I could talk for hours about it. I've heard of the JD-800 glue issue. Mate of mine has one with that problem. D-50 never owned but D-110 was my second synth (what a baptism of fire that was!). Still it taught me a lot and it still works:) Had a JP-6 I had to sell due to young family and needed money. Big mistake as they're now worth stupid money. Still I don't think they're worth the ridiculous sums they fetch. It's a nice synth but y'know! Anyway nice to speak. All the best:)
@@Soundsauca Thank you very much for the reply at Soundcloud, and for all atention! yeah a JP-6 costs a lot now but a JP-8 well... its like a used Ferrari at the moment, but if you think about a Yamaha CS80, its almost a Buggatti lol. The JD800 still have also an high price in second hand... We arent milionaires lol, if so I would buy me a MiniMoog D... but that dream is too far away. Once again, your JD990 patches are amazing good! I did spend lots of time doing my own patches to, most of my songs use it, its still my prefered Synth like the CS1X is also.
This is one of the prettiest videos I ever seen😂
Big Facts lol
I am on the verge of getting a system 8. This patch bank will be my next purchase.
System-8 is a great synth. Very versatile.
@@Soundsauca it has some limitations compared with the later generation of Roland synths, like the Juno X and Jupiter X, but it just sounds so good.
Indeed it does. I look at them as quite different propositions. Juno/Jupiter X are vast in their capabilities in every way. However there's no denying the System-8 aims for a more accurate rendition of certain classic synths.
For typical classic synth stuff, Zen based instruments hold their own. With more esoteric stuff, S8 can pull ahead. Both are valid!
@@Soundsauca where can you even buy this patch bank?
Hi there. Head over to soundsauca.com and you’ll find it there!
Purchased and installed tonight, definitely some amazing sounds, really shows off some of the capabilities of the System-8. I do have one suggestion: it doesn't look like any of the patches map key velocity to anything. Particularly on the plucky or percussive sounds, you might want to at the very least map velocity to amplitude, to give the player some more control over expressivity. Perhaps on the pads you could map it to filter cutoff offsets.
Hi Scott, thanks very much! I appreciate your feedback. Definitely room for improvement on my part. I’ll keep listening and learning.
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That Greenland patch literally sounds AMAZING! I own a System 8, but this sounds way better than anything I've ever made with it!!!
Question, if I purchase this pack, can I use it on my System 8 or only with the vst?
Thanks Fabian! Yes some of the pads the System-8 can do are really special. It works with the hardware and vst actually. You can send to the synth via the plugin or load individual patches directly from an SD card. Hope this helps!
@@Soundsauca I am late with this XD, I finally descided to buy the patches, these are still the best!!! Thanks for these cool sounds!
Hey @@fabimawn! Thanks so much, I really hope you like them. It's still one of my favourite sound sets I've made. Best, Michael.
Beautiful sounds. Does this sound pack need the latest System 8 OS to work?
Hi there, thank you v much! The sounds were created with the plugin version. I know quite a few people that have got them running on the hardware. It's not so straightforward but is possible. It works with the latest Roland Cloud version so I'd assume it does yes. If you need any help though drop me a line on my website and I'll get back with more details!
Also what program did u use to make the graphics with? Cause this shit sexy as hell lol
Hey @Tragic Beatzs, thanks man - graphics are a mix of things. Images are filters and come from my bloated photo library. Mograph stuff is Adobe After Effects and put together in Final Cut Pro. I wanted to get Cinema 4D and try some 3d stuff, but I can't afford the subscription atm. Blender's another thing but... in time, maybe!
If you do a version for System 1, I'll definitely be all over it!
Hi Mark, If I could I would! Unfortunately the System-1 doesn't have the DSP functions to recreate these sounds. Best idea is to get a S-8 or maybe the Roland Cloud? Thanks.
Amazing as always my friend! You really pushed the System 8 to the limit.
Are these all single patches with no external effects? Sometimes it sounds layered with multiple things going on. :)
Also, where do you get your cool abstract video graphics?
Hello @synth4ever thanks a lot for stopping by! These are all single patches and no external effects. I only have the cloud version. There's a few overlaps between 2 sounds but they're quite distinct - so no performance patches. It might be the sideband filters - they can often make it seem more is going on. I used the mod wheel on a few sounds and tweaked the filter etc on some as well. Hope that's still legit?!
The graphics are me fiddling around. Some are filters and after effects, others just pictures. I did a little less of it this time as it roasts my laptop on rendering and takes so much time which would be better spent making sounds ;)
@@Soundsauca you can make sounds on the system-8 for hours whilst your laptop renders the most complex eye-candy, no?
@keithX303, great idea! Unfortunately I only have the plugin version for now. Maybe one day!
Do these patches also work for the System 8 VST-version ?
Hi there, yes they work with the hardware and software version. The hardware can be challenging to load due to the procedures Roland implemented with backup/restore.
Loading in the plugin is as easy as loading a file! Hope that helps:)
@@Soundsauca Thx.
Since I always prefer any hardware version over a VST, I will be saving my money to buy the System8 next year !
Hopefully soon and I will certainly buy your soundset !
Where can we get the sound bank?
Hello. Sorry, I may need to make it clearer: here’s the link:
www.soundsauca.com/sounds/mysticism
Thanks!
These patches are terrific!! Thinking about selling my system 1 and microkorg to get a system 8! the sequencer, double layers and fx are really calling my attention. Do you think its worth it?
Thanks! That's a hard one and really depends on your usage. The System-1 holds a special place for me and does sound ever so slightly different to the System-8. The S1 has a rawer tone with more modulation in the osc section. The S8 sounds more refined/classic and obviously has polyphony/fx advantages. Why not try the Roland Cloud plugin version?!
@@Soundsauca thanks!
Great tip!!!
Its funny that I... like it raw! 🤘
Yes, that's what I think too, and System-1 will be a great controller for System-8 Cloud VST as I asked in another thread? Very cool demo and presentation by the way!
Indeed, there are some differences, but I'm sure you can get to most of the important parameters that way.
@@fishtage Just giving you my penny's worth , I have both the system 1 which I mainly use for basses as it is a nasty little bastard. The system 8 I use for all those classic Roland lead and pad sounds and together they sound fantastic.
If you can my advise would be to keep your system 1 and keep looking out for a great deal on a used system 8.
Hope this helps if a bit late.
Will these patches import to zenology pro/roland cloud/Z-Core? thx
Hi there. Yes they work fine with the Roland Cloud System-8 plugin. Zenology is a separate engine but all good on the other. Thanks!
@@Soundsauca Yes and No. You can load it from System 8 (s8p) within Roland Cloud but you can not import it to Zenology Pro. Your response was a bit vague. Thing about loading RC System 8 or any other synths is it is CPU HUNGRY. TBD
Hi Garry. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough, I said it will work fine with the Roland Cloud System-8 plugin which is true. The Zenology/Pro is a separate engine altogether and I thought I said as much. If I can help you more, drop me a line here and I'll try and help! Many thanks.
www.soundsauca.com/contact
@@Soundsauca Okay loading: it's a bit "old school" but nice schtuff! I'll be messing with it for a while, awesome out of the "box"!
Haha! Yes I like a bit of the old stuff still. Sign of my age I guess! Well I hope you get on well with it but I'm always here ;)
Hey mate, hope you are well! Have you considered doing any more work on the System-8 or Zencore?
This is still one of my go-to banks for jamming or inspiration! Absolutely love it!
Hey @SchubertDipDab nice to hear from you! Zencore is certainly one I’d like to work on. Nothing as yet but am currently working on some new stuff. I’d like to do more with System-8 but there’s just too many synths!
Great to hear you’re still enjoying Mysticism 👍
This or prologue? I feel the sound of prologue is tard more sad while system8 more dreamy .trancey in a way? If i might say.
This demo is stunning..awesome job
Well I’d say the System-8 is more versatile, but there’s something to be said for real analog too. Prologue does have that great digital engine too. Thanks a lot!
I think this sound is much more pleasing to the ear than the prologue, also I hear it has a lot of tuning issues
@@kiko1935 i hear you took the s8 home . Is a lot of fun. Thinking combo it with its bigger brother the jdxa
@@noobslayerr9732 whoa you did?? Not yet, gonna hopefully pick it up this week. I'm not too sure about the jdxa, do you like it?
@@kiko1935 well ive never played with one as where i come from is only ytube haha but. I like the roland 'everything layered infront of you' since jupiter 8😂 i also like the idea of having 8 track parts. You can write a whole album using just the jdxa as u gonna fire up all the parts together. I also like the fact is supenatural with q strong sequencer is kinda like what the access virus should have been ..but jdxa its got many haters for a weird reason .maybe because roland released at a time the world passed that supernatural long time ago and only 4 voice analog poly..funny nowdays it seems that kind of tech is coming back😂 but vs a flagship 2.6-3k pounds instrument the half price and million more features alone plus that 'nasty' good sound of the jdxa put it extremely high in my 'sell a kidney' list😂
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Startlingly beautiful patches. Indeed. Query: What is your opinion in comparing the ACB vs the Zencore engine?
If I had to choose one I would go Zen as it covers so so much. The emulations are pretty good but the synth engine to me is more interesting and is vast. If it's purely to emulate that "classic" Roland sound then ACB is probably the right choice. If you just want a synth to play and tweak, the S-8 is hard to beat.
I've not spent that long with Zencore (although I know the JV/JD/XV line quite well) but Zencore is better in almost every way. The main reason I haven't is there's so much content out for ZC from Roland I see little point in adding to it at this stage. I might change my mind one day! Also the Zen VA engine appears to pluck bits from the V-Synth so that's a possible expansion too. Hope that helps!
@@Soundsauca Thanks for your in depth feedback. I think I will try the Zen Core as it does sound impressive as much as the ACB.
Financial restrictions is guiding me to go with the former especially since I'm wanting to get my hands on the Newer Sp2400 Emu Sampler emulation box.
I listened to the JD-800 Zen & was floored to hear how realistic its sounds are depicted considering I own an original. I just wished they wouldve added a "drift" algorithm function like in Modal's Cobalt8 to really get that unique sense of older analog circuits
@@pentacle9783 For what my opinion might be worth, the system 8 sounds better than the Jupiter X, which has AMB instead of ACB. The X's engine is the Zen Core, and it can do wonderful things. As a complete unit, it beats the system 8 in terms of sheer capability and function. However, if you just want sound, and nothing else really matters, the ACB on the 8 is just incredible. AMB works by replicating the tonal sounds of analogue. ACB works by replicating the process by which analogue sounds were/are made. That's why the System 8, despite being a digital synth, is indistinguishable from a true analogue synth in the vast majority of its sounds
System 8 or jd-xa?
It depends. In a nutshell the S8 is a 2 part 8 voice poly dedicated to vintage emulation. These emulations are first class. Along with this, the S8 engine has extras like FM, sideband filters etc.
The JD-XA has a 4 voice analog engine coupled to a 64 voice supernatural synth similar to the one in the Integra7 module. It’s VA element is arguably a sophisticated sample based synth but with more Lfos & effects. The analog side I’m not so sure but I’d side with the S8.
The JD is a better choice for bigger layers and textures, in my bank I hoped to illustrate that the S8 can also achieve exotic sounds unique to the synth.
In terms of sound quality I think the S8 has the Jd beat. The Jd has a larger but on the whole more traditional sound sculpting abilities.
S8 negatives - single lfo, less polyphony and FX.
Tough decision... hopefully someone else chimes in with other opinions.
@@Soundsauca thank you very much for your professional reply 🙂
I went for the JD-XA in the end given I wanted more layers to play with, but this sounds simply amazing. May have to get a System-8 down the line. It's definitely a completely different world - choosing one or the other doesn't really seem fair.
@@SchubertDipDab Both are totally valid choices, depending on your preferences. Hope the JD provides you with much enjoyment;)
There is only one correct answer.
Both.
Based on this video I bought my Roland system 8. I read review after review criticizing it’s plastic build and green lights. I LOVE how very light it is and how it LIGHTS. I use it with my Maschine Plus and Akai force at gigs and it always gets attention.
The lame argument about analog and digital gets more lame all the time and the system 8 should put that tired stuff to bed! It’s like the argument over Digital and Vinyl. Vinyl is LAME. It degrades into gases and once the needle does it’s course, all that warmth and clearing is GONE. System 8 is easy to carry, and relatively inexpensive. It’s a great synth and I’ve been using them since 1987
Totally agree Brian. The digital/analog debate is for the most part moot. I certainly wouldn't turn down a Moog One or something:)!! But I never feel wanting with the options I have. System-8 is a very good machine on any level. The engine is extremely versatile and can replicate a great number of "classics" whilst going far beyond their capabilities. Add into the mix reliability, gigability etc and it's a keeper for sure! Best, Michael.