ShockStop Suspension Seatpost by Redshift, long term test and review
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- Long term test and review of the ShockStop suspension seatpost by Redshift Sports. I have since been given the seatpost free of charge by Redshift Sports.
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thank you so very much for adding the camera filming how it interects with the saddle bag, this was a big question if had. great quality!
i just received my carbon stem today, its sick, it suits my cannondale topstone well.
Thx for taking the time to review the products, as an older, heavier rider prioritizing upgrades was extremely helpful.
I'm glad it was useful Matt. I think I mentioned it was the stem which attracted me most - the seatpost they just sent along with it. I was suprised how useful it was. There's a longer term test video of the latter here ua-cam.com/video/z6l7eyBDLGA/v-deo.html
What amazing scenery you have there! The products reviews were great too.
Yep - so lucky. Video about this great ride coming soon.
Thank you for the well thought out and detailed review. You hit all the important parts in a way that answered the most pressing questions. I have been interested in both products and I believe you have pushed me over the edge.
Hi Dave - I'm glad it was helpful. I'm quite skeptical when it comes to dramatically different bits of kit and took some convincing, so I hope you'll find the same as I did. Take your time judging the seatpost though, because it needs a few rides to find the right setting.
Well done review & I appreciated the time you took to think up & answer our questions. I'm looking forward to getting back to biking just as soon as I get back home!
Thanks Stephen - just what I wanted to hear.
Awesome review, I’ve got the stem and think I’m going to upgrade to the seatpost too now. My concern was the bikepacking bags so glad you brought that up!
I just love your cinematography. Really unique and nice. Keep it up!
Thanks Kilroy. It's a bit weird shooting video selfies!
I appreciate your honesty and a good review and I loved your beautiful country , my grandmother on my mother's side was Keith , I'm told I have Ancient ancestors from Scotland
Great progressive video review series. Thank you! Interestingly, I upgraded the exact same items as you in the same order. (Pathfinder Pros, stem and post) However, like you I immediately loved the stem. Loved it even more just a little softer than the recommended elastomers for my weight. One month later I decided to buy the post. Headed out for a 25 mile gravel ride and was 100% sure I loved the post before I was through my bumpy backyard.(recommended setting seems perfect for me) My love for the post was greater and more immediate than the stem. In fact the seat post made me love the stem even more. Can no longer imagine one without the other. As to the concern of possible power loss, my opinion is that the kit with their settings are a constant where my body’s strength and ability varies from day to day. Some days you can conquer the world and then some. Other days may feel sluggish. Having said that, my first ride with both devices was 25 miles in 95° heat and extremely high humidity. My workout numbers were all higher than my average. Was it just a good day or was it the devices? I don’t know, but right out the gate I know they didn’t hinder me. My rear definitely stayed in the seat more than ever on the climbs and the comfort is outstanding. Thanks again for an absolutely unbiased progressive review and all the wonderful insights observed. Your area is absolutely stunning. Happy Riding!
Thanks very much for taking the time to write Joey - Im sure other folk will find this helpful.
Always informative and full of interest. Many thanks Simon
Thanks Simon
Great review Simon. Love your content and that location is gorgeous. I am planning on starting with the stem as I don't do rough stuff very often just rail trails and rough roads
Great place to start. I hope it works for you.
A good, honest review. I hope you do more of these things with the same approach. I'm less convinced by so many of the industry reviewers as you know they depend on advertisers so are unlikely to slate things. I know, in the end, that you do recommend the seatpost (so I hope you get one for free!) but you didn't rush into it and gave it a thorough try out. Cheers.
Thanks Hugh
Good day from Canada. Excellent video, your reviews are thorough and very professional, thank you for posting.
Glad you like them, thanks
Thanks for the video. I'm based in Glasgow and only got a bike quite recently. I got the Shockstop stem, partly after seeing your first review and was very impressed when I tried it yesterday. The seatpost looks good and I might have to consider it if I can make my way onto some gravel eventually!
I'm glad the video was useful, but don't rush into the seatpost. Get to ride some trails further afield once we're into Phase 3 and see if there's anything else yo should be spending on your bike first. It's nice, but not a must-have.
Today was the day I took the plunge and bought the redshift seat post. I have the redshift stem and impressed with it.
Expensive, but worth it. Buy cheap buy twice!
Great review.
Thank you
Rich
I hope you’ll be really happy with it. Reserve too much judgement until you’ve ridden a while and got the ‘bounce’ right for your weight, riding and terrain.
Excellent comprehensive review.
I've had the stems for several years on both my gravel and road bikes. Was one of the first to get the seatpost, put it on and the combo works perfectly on my Salsa Warbird. Your comment of them taking the sting out of gravel was spot on. Just found your channel, subscribed and enjoying so far. Keep up the good work.
Thanks David - I'm pleased you like what you're seeing.
Thanks for this review! I really wanted to hear the most honest review on the Redshift stem vs seatpost...that settles it...im buying the stem first..road buzz is quite harsh on my arms.
Sold! Thank you
I currently have the canyon (Ergon) twin blade seat post but this has caught my eye!
There’s an updated video about the Pro version which is lighter although less adjustable.
Sore backside cycling fix - Shockstop Seatpost Pro by Redshift Sports
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Thank you yes I saw this! The pro version is your preferred- seems to me the pro version leans towards more my current ergon post. Great at reducing the buzz and gravel trails… not quite as bouncy as the original. My gravel bike is now my only bike so it’s trying to find the balance of comfort on gravel vs use on the road… this is where the canyon VCLS / ergon is very good
Superbly presented 👏
A brilliant review, thank you!
My pleasure Smilyan!
Great review and beautiful country... Just got both the stem and seat post, hopefully get them on tomorrow and give it a try...
I really hope they work for you Dave
@@alwaysanotheradventure I am sure they will... at 73 really enjoying my e-bike by Aventon Adventure. Have fun out there...
Firstly great honest review thanks Simon. The cost is the main aspect that puts me off this but as some of the other comments above or below me (which ever way) it’s an upgrade I will be seriously considering. If I buy one, I will miss my dropper post though. On the Marin headlands this has been a very useful tool when you stop for a quick breather or some other reason, you don’t have to sit across the top tube particularly if you have bags strapped to it.
It might be worth you delaying David. I don't have any details, but Erik at Redshiuft did tell me they were working on a new seatpost and I'd get to try it when ready. I suppose it could be a dropper / shockstop?
Thank you, sir! Based on you excellent reviews I am going to give both of these a try. Hopefully, they will help with wrists and bum on my multi-day gravel rides.
Hi Mike - is there anyone local to you whose seatpost you could try? Perhaps ask on facebook? I'd hate you to shell out the cash and find it's not for you.
@@alwaysanotheradventure That's is a good suggestion and I appreciate you making it. Unfortunately, I do not know anyone with either of these. If I order them on the redshift web site they offer a 30-day money-back guarantee (minus the shipping). I don't have much natural padding on my butt so I need to do something to take the hurt out of the bumps lol. Thanks!
@@MikeLyncheski Ah, sounds good.
I don't know about the stem, but wow, what lovely scenery! Looks like a fantastic route.
Hi Marion - it really is exceptional. I went back and shot another video a few days later, turning the route into a loop. When lockdown eases a little more in Scotland, and people can travel, I'll put that one live too.
Had the stem for a year and love it. It just works. Borrowed the seat post from a friend for a 100k gravel sportive last month and that sold it to me. 6 hours of forestry and tracks round reservoirs (from Ruthin - fab) and I ordered one. Sure, it's a bit of an outlay, but as Simon points out it's a long term investment and just makes the whole thing more comfortable. (10% off offer from Redshift as well made a bit of a difference.) . Next up is a new saddle - a bit lighter than the one I have, which will help to make up some of the weight gain...
Thanks Andy - good info.
The scenery is amazing !
Thanks for the update 👍
Glad it was useful Paul
I rode this route back in 2013. It was beautiful.
I just mentioned this ride to you in a different comment reply. It's a long standing right of way, and you can feel that when you ride it. I first did it in 2004.
Thank's Sir , Very helpful to me this video , new biker from Philippines
Good to hear from you Arturo - hope you like the playlist of tips - Stuff Cyclists Don’t Tell You
My first purchase when my back started hurting was the seatpost. OMG it's good! Now it seems I should get the stem. This is on my 1996 Bike Friday New World Tourist, with an electric upgrade.
A lot of people with back issues rate that seatpost highly. The stem is just good for anyone riding rougher roads or off-road.
i ride with the redshift stem, and i am a fan of this part. So after your vid i will also try out the seatpost.
See if you can try one first. the stem made a huge difference to my riding. the seatpost, well, not so much.
Another excellent informative video and that Scottish scenery!!!! Can’t wait until we can travel back up there even though I know at that point it’ll tip it down for weeks 😉
I was lucky when I did this Graham. I'll do another longer video in a few weeks about riding this as a loop, because the whole thing (65ml) is probably the most popular gravel route in these parts.
always another adventure Look forward to that!!! Had the OS map out earlier looking at the loch side track and fitting it into a loop. Looks like a few steep road hills !!! Excited to give it a go when things open up 😀
@@gcsScotland TBH I rode and filmed it a couple of days after this, but can't put it live yet 'cos it might encourage folk to come before we're allowed. I shot it starting at Corran and going anti-clockwise, because that's the way many people from FW ride it, and in normal times, you get two well spaced coffee stops at Glenfinnan and Strontian. But actually, it's best done clockwise to get the big Polloch hill over with early. Trying to outpace the midges on that was hard!
always another adventure Hopefully get up in September - hopefully less midges and an Indian summer!!! Think you could be swamped by tourists when restrictions are lifted. Down here in the Lakes it’s been very busy and that’s before people can stay. Unfortunately not all have left no trace!!!! Cycling has been great though if you know the quieter routes. Cheers for the advice
great review
got the seat post after considerable research and not regretted a single second (didnt like elastomer seatpost shapes and also heard they go harder in cold like -6 sometimes i cycle in - made sense to me) - my needs are different and i like softer ride due to back ache - short of a true suspension this is excellent - it is also aesthetically one of the best seat posts and looks very non prominent but techno at the same time -
one thing i quickly figured was that seat post softeness/hardness setting is individual and depends on terrain you are riding on too - i usually am on road and only a part gravel so mine is at road settings (whcih are not perfect for gravel) - hope makes sense
many thanks for helping me make the decision
So pleased to hear it's working for you. Thanks for the comment.
100% agree on the stem. So much so I have one on all my bikes (3) gravel and road.
Do you notice is much on the road bike Stevvie?
@@alwaysanotheradventure So Sorry about the delay, I don't get many messages on here. So yeah the Stem soaked up almost ALL the road buzz. I already had a Specialized Cobble Gobbler so that stops the road Buzz traveling up my back.
I tried it on my road bike with 25mm tires as a cheaper (than changing bike) solution to my back problem, and after first 1000km I wasn't convinced - even if my setup was stiffer than Redshift recommendation (I setup it for weight 10kg higher), on quick uphills with high cadence seatpost bounces a lot which was annoying. But after adding more stiffness (+20kg to recommend setup) everything works almost perfect - bounce is reduced to minimum, and I don't feel that I sacrificed comfort much.
Now I have more than 2000km on my wheels with this seatpost and I love it. Everything works great, quality is very good, I don't hear any creaks or strange sounds.
That's SO good to hear Pawel, thank you. I hope you can let the team at redshift know.
wouldn't ride without mine especially as I have three prolapsed disc's
Great video. 👍🏻
Thanks 👍Giles
Brilliant video, I must go to that place for a ride. After finishing my 2hour canal ride of different surfaces on my Giant roam 3 hybrid bike, I said to my daughter about buying one of these and wonder if it would be handy on my bike. I would be interested in buying both.
In my experience Redshift are very helpful and responsive if you have questions. I’m completely sold on the stem.
I’m using the ShockStop stem and plan to put them on all my bikes, they are that good 😊
That's interesting - would you put it on a road bike too?
always another adventure The condition of roads at the moment make me want to put it on a bike that’s used on the road, yes
I have already done that haha. My road, gravel and flat bar commuter have one each!
Great video and review
Thanks!
Wow-what a view.
I stumbled upon your channel and this review, it was very well done, thank you. I hit the like button and subscribed because I felt you were more honest in your review without having to be more positive because you have a deal with some company.
I have a question, sorry! LOL!! I'm 66 years old and I'm doing some road loaded touring with panniers and handlebar bag on a modern steel touring bike. The handle bar bag is the largest one made by Topeak stuffed with about 6 pounds of stuff. The only saddle bag I carry is a standard one that fits small stuff and tire repair stuff, so not a big one where a person crams in sleeping bag, etc.
I'm looking to take some of the vibration and minor road shock off my body, so I think the Redshift stem is definitely my next stem from what I've been reading and other videos as well as your high liking of it.
But it's the seat post I'm confused over because there are many with different philosophies of controlling shock, I think I leaning toward the Redshift but maybe the Cane Creek eeSilk though it is more expensive.
What your thoughts on this stuff for using on a fully loaded touring bike to be used mostly on paved roads, and a rare occasion on gravel if there is no paved road to use?
Thanks
Ok a few things. Firstly, I’m pleased you found the channel and like the video. I’m confident you’ll like the stem.
Seatpost - a week on Sunday I have a review of the new Pro seatpost going live (11th) and that might be what you want, although is you’re mostly on road I’m not sure.
Do you have a problem to solve? Sore backside? General wear-and-tear on your body? That’s what the seatposts are great at tackling.
Some serious gravel racers use them to reduce that battering on their body. For that they’re great, especially the new Pro.
Buy for the road with no other issues I don’t really see the point. But then, I wouldn’t use the stem on a road bike on smooth roads.
I’m not sure that’s helpful or not - sorry.
@@alwaysanotheradventure Thanks for the response.
I'm older guy like I said at 66, long riding 40 miles and more in a day now causes problems with my hands from the vibration, tried vibration-dampening handlebar tape to no avail, so now I was looking at the suspension stem.
I have lower back fusion, so I'm trying to take some of the vibrations off my back as much as possible.
This is all in an effort that when I do a tour across America I can do it in as much comfort as possible. The first couple of days won't be so bad, it's the long day after day for about 90 days, and the accumulating effect I'm concerned with. The touring bike is made of steel, and it has 38c tires which I run at around 60 psi when the bike is fully loaded with about 60 pounds of gear.
I have a regular non-touring road bike, but that one is made of Ti, that bike is comfortable due to the nature of the frame material, and the geometry is not as compact as a racing frame, plus I'm not on it for 90 days in a row. So I'm not so concerned at this point in my age to reduce the vibration on it.
thanks
@@frozerekmeyata4091 Definitely grab the stem - there's a 20% sale at Redshift right now.
I've had my suspension seatpost about 3 or 4 weeks (from Amazon UK) on my road bike. I'm very pleased with it.
I haven't noticed the extra weight or any bobbing when pedalling. I have noticed that I don't bounce out of the saddle on fast bumpy descents, like I used to with a regular seatpost.
Another bonus is I can now ride over pot holes/canyons, where before I'd have to go into the middle of the road to avoid them.
I had to set it an extra 1 and a bit over the recommended setting for my weight, to achieve the correct "sag".
The only thing I don't like about it, is the bolt positions to tighten up the saddle. It's difficult to use a torque wrench, so I just guess with a long 4mm hex key.
I don't think I'll buy the suspension stem though. But if someone wants to send me one, I'll try it out ;-)
That 1.5 over recommended setting sounds about right. I agree the bolts are a bit fiddly. I have a thing called an exorail which stabilises a rear bikepacking bag, and I'm not looking forward to trying to fit that onto this seatpost. If you're not getting any vibration through your wrists then fine, but I was suffering a bit and the stem made a huge difference.
I’ve had the seatpost a while now - was a backer on kickstarter. Agree about the bolts, complete pita - unlike the post itself 😜
Bought a stem about a month ago and my god... my bike just feels so comfortable now!! Obviously you don’t want either of things on your ‘fast’ bike but for gravel/long distance/touring both of these are in the ‘essential’ category for me now. I’ve got mine set to the recommended settings even with handlebar bags and backpacks and they’re still fine.
If you have back problems, or shoulder problems, or both, get one. A suspension seatpost have enabled me to ride a bike again, very slow of cause, but Im able to do it. (have have a Kato Ghost 27,5+ ebike hardtail). Get one its really great for commuting and trips to nature. I wouldn't know about rough riding, I cant do that.
That's quite an endorsement Rune. Thanks for the comment.
That scenery is sensational. Hope there are no midges to ruin it. Your Torm jersey piqued my interest too (merino wool?) and looks like quality gear from their site. Definitely worth a review if you haven’t done so already.
Thanks Del. The drone shot of me at the start was just one too many and the little bas****s found me. By the time it landed I was being swarmed. My legs look like pin cushions.
I like the Torm stuff, so thanks for your suggestions, I'll see what I can sort out.
For a commuter, I think I'm sold. Thank you for your review
I was using it again yesterday on a longer rougher ride and was pleased I had it
Great Video as usual. which end of loch Shiel is the bench I have to find that spot next time I'm up. Thanks
Hi Stuart, it's at the south western end in a picnic area off the main track pop these coordinates into Google and you should find it. 56.760936, -5.632814
I have reduced intervertebral space in the lumbar region (God knows how since I am relatively young and weight only 120 pounds with gear) but I think something like this will be my next upgrade to protect my lumbar discs.
It could be a good idea. The team at Redshift are very approachable so if you had any specific questions they'd be worth an email.
I have both and would happily have the seat post on both road and gravel bikes. The post softens all the little choppy bumps and the bike with the stem doesn't give me numb fingers.
I don't race so weight is secondary to comfort for the long rides.
That's a great point Rick. I can get a little too obsessed with the weight of my road bike 😁
@@alwaysanotheradventure I still keep an eye on weight though. I didn't think much at all until I rode my wife's 26Kg electric bike without assistance. On the flat it was ok-ish but every little rise felt like the brakes went on. Made me think twice.
On long brevets 300k plus I tend to carry more for the fear of break downs but my maintenance is always good and never had a bad issue. I've seen plenty with other riders though to make me more vigilant.
Happy rides to you.
What is the name of the Loch that you can see from the seat you were sat on. Looked absolutely beautiful.
Hi John - That's Loch Shiel, although strangely, GLEN Shiel is nowhere near! I'll do a route map on Komoot and link in the description.
Thanks for the video, it was quite informative.
I have a back problem and I'm looking to put these on a road bike. Do you have to have the stem or can the seat post work independently? Also, how do you choose which stem? Excuse me being a bike newbie.
Glad you liked the video, thanks. Stem and seatpost are sold separately and work separately. I think the stem is more about reducing vibration from your wrists, and I think the seatpost is more what you might need. But check with Redshift because I’ve found them hugely helpful over email.
Stems come in different lengths and angles. They’re a principle method of changing the fit of a bike. If you’re happy with your fit, then somewhere on it the stem ought to say it’s angle - they can be ‘flipped’ into a less aggressive rising position like mine. The length you can just measure. If you’re in doubt, can you take it to your local bike shop and ask them “what length and angle stem is on this?” And they’ll show you. Then order the nearest Redshift make. But I suspect the seatpost would be the best starting point.
What does the "top-out" feel like? That is, does it return to it's top position with some kind of buffering / dampening, like a mountain bike fork does for instance, or does it 'hard-stop' at the top of it's travel? Tnx. Andrew
There’s no hard stop, and the new version (this is an older video) I hardly notice working at all. Check this video for the latest Pro version.
Sore backside cycling fix - Shockstop Seatpost Pro by Redshift Sports
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I haven't tested mine yet as my knee is injured, but to handle the Redshift seatpost does feel like a "brick", quite weighty. I slightly regret not buying the Cane Creek eeSilk which uses elastomers similar to the Redshift stem. The eeSilk is 295g, around 250g lighter.
Interesting - I haven't seen the Cane Creek one, but you're right, the Redshift is somewhat 'substantial'
I am currently injured recovering from a fractured leg and arm happened when a car hit me on my way to a morning group ride. I am considering this post & stem combo on my road bike for when I recover and am ready to bike again. This might take the road sting out when I begin again. What's your take?
My goodness that sounds awful and I hope you recover. I feel I don't know enough to give you a meaningful response. The team at Redshift probably will, and they're very approachable, so just head to their website and use the contact details to ask them. I'm not just trying to put you off, I sincerely think this is the best way to get a knowledgeable reply. Good luck and best wishes for the recovery.
Morning Simon . Just stumbled upon this great video. As a matter of interest how much did you allow for sag and set back ?
Honestly I’m not that precise! I just fiddled a bit until it felt right. Hardly the bike-fitters’ approach I know.
@@alwaysanotheradventure thanks ! The go by feel rule trumps most others.
Interesting video as always. Off topic but where did you get your cycling glasses? Like you I need varifocals and you seem to have yours underneath your tinted ones? Did your optician make them?
Hi Mark - I'm going to have to make a separate video about these, because I have been asked about them a few times (I don't mind though!). They're made by Sunwise and the model is 'Austin'. Yes, they're varifocals, so I can see my Garmin and cameras. The optical bit clips in the frame first (I have a white frame too), then a 'visor' clips on top. The visor is interchangeable and comes in dark, orange, yellow and clear. It flips up if you go indoors with the sunglasses one in place. The clip that hold the visor in place is a little weak - I've broken two - but a new full set of visors costs £50 which isn't too bad.
@@alwaysanotheradventure Thanks for your reply, I've been in contact with my optician and described what you said and they knew exactly what I was trying to describe and I have an appointment on Monday where they will show me their similar types. I've been wearing my varifocals sun glasses but they are too narrow and let too much wind into my eyes.
I wonder how robust the pivots are on this post and if they can be removed for maintainance ? I have had half a dozen thudbuster LT seat posts over 10k miles on different bikes. Every one I have had to eventually disasemble to lubricate the pivots, as they dry out and the parallelogram mechanism starts to make a noise. I am tempted to try the redshift post for a couple of thousand miles though to see how it goes.
This might be something to check with Redshift - Ive found them very good to deal with
I still think it’s a solution for an overly stiff frame and perhaps stiff carbon wheel and tire combo. I think a well fitting custom or select frame and custom build that includes 650b or 700c tires on wider rims with nice 120tpi thin casing tires tubeless with a concern for not running a too high tire pressure
It's a good argument if your bike has the clearances, and the post is being used successfully in longer gravel races. There's a new one about to come out too and it's lighter.
@@alwaysanotheradventure I also think that wide aluminum rims with internal width 26mm and wider laced up with thin double butted or triple butted spokes on a custom wheel set that fit your riding needs has a big influence on the way your bike feels. Obviously not an economical approach to have a custom wheel set but honestly I truly value the results when I get wheels custom built for my bikes.
Can the bottom of the seat post be shortened if necessary... I mean, with a hacksaw?
No it can't - that's where the control point sits for adjusting the level of bounce.
wonder if they do a Giant d-fuse post version
You can always ask...
Regarding the handlebar stem application, ! want to sit upright as possible because of a bad back and using it on a Ebike. There are different models for different handlebars but my application would be to use straight handlebars. Could you use it turned upside down to raise handle bars a little? I'm from Canada but have some Cameron blood in me.
Hi Gerry - yes you can flip the stem. In fact, if you look carefully, mine is flipped to give me a more upright position. The angle isn't very steep on mine, so the flip doesn't do a lot, but makes a slight difference. Redshift might make other angles now.
@@alwaysanotheradventure thanks, I intend to install on non suspension Ebike and it looks like it will work.
@@pgerry9400 Great, but remember it's not a substitute for front suspension, it's more of a damper to take the trail buzz out of your wrists.
@@alwaysanotheradventure I have a motorcycle and I used to after a long ride I would just barely grip the handlebars to get rid of the buzz. My hands would sorta get that feeling of going to sleep.I think if they had them for motorcycles too would be good.
On a side note I would be interested in your weight ( if you don't mind) and what you dialed the settings into and why. still fiddling with mine but think a bit stiffer than they say is the way to go.
Hi Nic - when I started testing these I was 74kg but lockdown plus an injury (not recovered) meant I added 2kg, the heaviest I've been for a while. I think started at around 3.5 but there was a lot of sag, which might be nice on a level, really rough route. I'm now at just a shade under 5 and if anything it's a little stiff. I rode the route again with 700c wheels and 35mm tyres (this video was 650b wheels and 42mm tyres) and it felt a whole lot rougher. Riding with prolapsed disc's I suspect you'd want it quite a bit softer, but again, it depends on terrain and tyres too. This took me quite a while to sort and I'm still not completely there.
always another adventure . Thanks for the info. I’ve just got some 700x 45 Hutchinson Torareg tyres so going to have another play. Unfortunately I’m not 74 kg lol I’m hovering around 90kg although that’s a lot better than the 104kg I was 2 years ago 🤷♂️
I was thinking of transferring a titanium stem from my Moots onto my gravel bike and wondering if you think that would be a better option than buying one of these suspension seat post in terms of compliance, weight, less complexity, costs etc.
I’m not sure I understand - how would a stem help with a seatpost? Sorry if I misunderstood. Certainly the shock stop stem is excellent. The seatpost has been upgraded and I have a review of the new simpler Pro seatpost coming soon. Nothing to dial in - just fit. Redshift will in time do switchable elastomers for the new seatpost as they do for the stem.
@@alwaysanotheradventure thanks for responding and sorry, I mistyped. I was curious about swapping my moots titanium seat post vs the redshift seat post you reviewed.
I’d save money and weigh for sure but not sure how the compliance/comfort would matchup.
@@pgreenx I just wrote a long reply and hit the wrong button!
The old seatpost is a little too heavy for my liking and takes a lot of work to get the bounce right. You had to be a hard core racer doing a long gravel race to get the benefit (in my view).
The new Pro version is lighter and works better in that I didn't notice it doing its thing - just like the stem. I'm 75kg and even with a bikepacking bag (I'm using it in the Fitter in 30s or 60s video and the Strangest Glen videos) which you'd think would upset the bounce, it stayed spot on. I notice some good racers have been using it, including Josh Ibbett in the Morocco Atlas race. What about people of different weight? Redshift tell me the elastomers are changeable and they can supply stiffer or lighter versions, so if you're interested maybe give them a call / email. I'll be posting that review early in 2023.
And Moots... very nice!
@@alwaysanotheradventure thanks. I think I’ll swap the stem for my summer tour since it won’t cost me anything and it’s easy.
Have the pivots developed any play since you started riding this post?
Do you know if that's user serviceable? It appears to be a pretty simple mechanism.
No play in any direction I'm pleased to say. I'm not sure what would need servicing - maybe lube the pivots and/or replace the spring, both of which can be done. I can't really imagine anything else, so if you want to know more, you'd probably be best dropping an email to Redshift Sports - I've found them super helpful.
@@alwaysanotheradventure Thanks for the reply!
I was thinking about the bushings in the parallelogram. Being a mechanic all my life, I know nothing lasts forever. Ive owned similar posts in the past.
Mainly I want be able to fix everything myself. I dont want to need to return it for service. I'm also curious as to what material is used for bushings.
@@rollinrat4850 To be brutally honest, I'm not certain what a 'bushing' is 🙄😁 sorry. I reckon an email to the team at Redshift Sports is in order. I'm not trying to dodge, it's just the best way to get the info you need.
@@alwaysanotheradventure A bushing is also known as a plain bearing. Its a cylinder of metal or plastic that a shaft turns in. Its as simple as a bearing gets. Its generally used where there's slow rotation speed or the shaft is making just a partial rotation.
can you lock out this contraption?
No and that’s a drawback. You’d have to remove the seatpost and tighten the spring.
Thank you, can I please ask what settings you use for your weight?
I’m sorry Matthew I don’t know - this video was made a few years ago and I’ve moved on to the pro seatpost now. I followed the guideline weight suggested by Redshift and then experimented which is easy to do - just take an Allen key with you when riding.
Thank you! I’m 93kg and found myself setting 4 just for the 20% sag set up - worried I might be bobbing in the real world and potentially moving to 5 on a ride….
Is the pro a nicer set up or is it the weight aspect you prefer?
@@matthewreeves5843 The pro is not as easily adjustable but seemed spot on for my 75kg out of the box. Redshift told me new versions would be workshop adjustable, in that the ‘bounce’ is regulated by elastomers (like the stem) which could be changed. Easily done but not trailside.
I seem to recall this post came with two springs to cover a wide weight range, and I used the less hefty of the two.
If you’re in any doubt, I found Redshift easy to deal with so I’d suggest dropping them an email and mentioning what you’ve seen in the video. Things might have changed and my info could be dated.
@@matthewreeves5843 Found it - ua-cam.com/video/Z0-hdUrgY-w/v-deo.htmlsi=97fj_Yk6l72GmQtW Comparison of the two posts. Sorry I’m on a bus pecking at my phone.
Thank you very kind!
I do long rides occassionally like centuries /doubles, n the first thing that gives is my bum. I'll try on a longish ride (mostly tarmac).
If you’re riding road double centuries, which is far longer than me, then it’s no wonder you get a sore backside! I genuinely don’t think this would help much on tarmac as you’ll still have the same duration of contact between backside and saddle, and it’s that which causes the pain (plus sweat, friction etc). Spare clean, different shorts (different pattern, stitching etc) might be worth trying. Double century- wow.
Hi again after a 1 year of riding the redshift suspension stem and seat-post I can say they did help on the road bike (Orbea 2006 Opal). My bum wasn’t sore like before, after a recent 7 hour -70 mile-7k feet ride.
How long is your stem boss?
80mm (+/- 6deg) and now I'm using their 'pro' version. It doesn't give a huge weight saving at this length.
4:59 I need to do more like you. I carry way too much sometimes.
It's like a 1500lbs Silverback Gorilla riding on my shoulders.
I just had the most bizarre mental image of you giving a ride to a HUGE hairy ape
LOL. By the way, I did buy the RSSS largely based on your previous video. It just came in last night. I got it installed and went out on a short ride before it got too dark. Today I will be out for no less than 2 hours to really try it out. Cheers.
Seems like it probably work best for off-road and gravel.
Oh absolutely Jason. I think it would only be useful on road for someone with a back problem, but judging by the comments here, there are quite a few of them.
Its a trip bouncing up n down while i pedal 🤣
£230 for the suspension seat post and £150 for the shock stem!!! O M G I'm shocked. Far too expensive. I have an old Post Moderne suspension seat post which was probably about £15 years ago which has been brilliant. Also the stem they do only appears to be a long 100mm can't get shorter ones.
Hi Alex - they're not cheap are they? But then, I have yet to find a modern bike component that's sensibly priced. There's a wheelset reviewed in Off-Road magazine that cost £3050. I suppose it comes down to how much value you place on the component and how much you can afford. I'd certainly buy the Stem because it has helped my wrist ache a lot.
I considered this seat post till i saw the $300 price tag
The new Pro one is better. Review coming soon. For the price of some bike components (ie wheels) it’s not badly priced.
Not sure about the present time, but there have been lots of different suspension seatposts, at various price points, over the years. It's not a unique product.
Sounds a lot like Tiff Needell
That’s a first. Usually it’s John Craven! 😁
Love my zoom shock post.All the bounce fun for only £18
I got a in-line cheap seatpost off one of the bigger bike parts companies here in Europe, and it is "good enough" to save my back from aching (compressed disc). Paid something along the lines of €25 for it, which means I can get another 9 pairs of the same before I have paid one Redshift.
I have no doubt the Redshift is a neat seatpost, but yo can get away with a lot less paid for almost the same function.