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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2021
- I had never heard of the Redshift Shockstop system until a few weeks ago. Had I been missing something special or is this just another cycling fad? I took the Redshift Shockstop stem and seatpost for a mixed surface Ribble CGR gravel bike ride in the beautiful New Forest and an 87 mile Triban RC520 road bike test. The results were unexpected.
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Cheers Roy..I have an expensive decision to make🙄
Hi Roy, thanks for the mention in review, I watched it Saturday, day of review. I had watched other reviews I think they were American and some had said go for stem 1st, but when I watched your one you thought seatpost 1st. On Sunday 9pm I ordered the seat post on Amazon and it was here 4,30pm Monday , it was easy to fit, I have been fine tuning since, it’s brilliant, I have been along a rough tarmac path beside a local sports field that would shake teeth out, it is much smoother. I have had 4 rotator cuff operations, plus my 2 broken pelvis bones last year, in summary it is like riding a magic carpet now, faster and doesn’t upset the handling of bike
My goodness, Alastair. That has worked out well. You suggested the review and got some benefit as well, so a perfect outcome. I just rode 100k and my buddy was asking me to slow down so, like you, I am noticing greater speed over distance.
Excellent review Roy thanks
Bought them and now installed on my own CGRe , great products, thanks Roy
After you mentioned this in a previous video I was really hoping for a review - and as I was thinking it, you dropped this lovely video! Thank you!
You think it and I’ll make it, Matt 😂
Anyone remember the Girvin FlexStem from the eighties? I got into mountain biking in the late eighties and I still have my first custom built MTB by a Bristol bike builder (Overbury's - they're long gone I think) and it still has the Flexstem... had a couple of different coloured elastomers to interchange - the thing weighed a ton though!!!!
I had the Red Shift seatpost on a Riese & Muller Ebike that I hired for a month (subsidised for NHS staff) in February & I found it to be extremely comfortable. Plus it was most certainly needed on a bike that weighed over 24kg.
Yes! Just ordered my stem & seatpost. I'm recovering from being struck by a vehicle back in April 2021, while going to a group ride early morning. But when doctors clear me again to bike ride. I'm using these to ease into riding my roadbikes again, since my arm and leg can't handle road shock just yet since I had titaniumin in my arm and a bone graft in fractured leg. Really appreciate redshift team made these and right when I need them to recover the most! Many thanks!
Sorry to hear about your injury. That must have been really serious to need that level of medical intervention. I sincerely hope you can get back on your bikes again without too much trauma.
@@RideWithRoy thank you Roy. I now have the shockstop post and stem on my belt driven single speed e-bike. I have ridden it 3 times with a friend and although my leg muscle is still weak and healing, I was able to put in 15-20 miles without pains. The seat post is amazing for smoothing the roads here, I just put the stem on this week and haven't gone out to try it yet. I'm mostly riding local sidewalks while I heal, and nothing too difficult. I rode my mountain bike one time and that was my first ride back, but it was more challenging without electric power. I hope to be stronger by one years time since my final surgery, and that would make it June time for me.
Hi Roy. Thanks for your detailed review. Just bought the redshift seatpost to deal with the rough, pot holed roads in London. I’ve got a lovely road bike sitting in my hall but unfortunately that’s where it sits most of the time because I can face the harsh ride in the morning. Hopefully this does the trick 👍
Thanks for commenting, seano. It’s always difficult reviewing as other’s experience may differ. However, comments here from other users suggest you will be very satisfied with your purchase 👍
Wow, you have had a few interesting comments, I have been tweaking the settings again but not so happy, I have had another look at the instructions and they have stated that upon taking the seatpost out of package I should dismantle it all and grease all the innards and smear the tube. I did this earlier and have just been out for a short spin on my rougher local tracks and road, I really think greasing has taken seat post to another level. You are not usually asked to dismantle a brand new product and grease and reassemble, so I suggest we all do it if not already done. I am now looking for bumps instead of opposite.
I didn’t need to grease mine, Alastair. I had it apart to fit the second spring and it seemed greased enough. I’m pleased you are happy now as it was you that started all this 😂
Ty for the in depth review.
I’ve just come up with another justification for the cost. I am having to replace both of my Selle Italia seats as the front housing where the rails fit has cracked and they are creaking badly. With the Shockstop system I expect the lack of vibration will extend the life of the saddle.
I miss the new forest thanks for sharing.
If you have a look at ‘Wheelers at Large’ Mike and Julie make a lot of video in the New Forest.
@@RideWithRoy i have. Fantastic!
I bought the stem a couple of years ago for my GT Grade and it was quite good but bought a Specialized Creo 18 months ago which came with an adjustable stem which is even better as you just turn a knob to adjust which you can do whilst riding. Bought the suspension seat post 6 months ago and it is fantastic. Had to make a little stiffer than recommended but that is a personal choice. With an electric bike weight is not really an issue I use 38mm Marathon Plus tyres which aid comfort and roll very well but 800g each. Because they are a potential problem to remove if I ever have a puncture, none to date after 14,000 miles, I made sure I bought inner tubes with removable valves so if I do get a puncture I can pump in some “Stans” tyre sealant which hopefully will keep me mobile till I get back to a warm garage. I read your review on the Ribble AL and it does seem good value which has resulted in an order backlog till May 22. The thing that did strike me was the archaic method of changing assistance levels compared to the Creo which now has satellite buttons on the bars, one to move up and the other to move down. When one buys an electric bike, one will almost invariably cycle more miles so I think one of the most fundamental issues irrespective of make, is buy one that has an extender battery facility
Thanks, Mike. Oddly, and counter intuitively, even though the seat post adds weight it has genuinely made me faster on the Triban - not that I’m looking for speed. Like you, I adjusted much firmer than advised. I can see how a ‘live’ adjustment would be useful. Good tips on the tyres too, thanks. I’m just making the leap into Tubeless for my new build - more about how that went in an upcoming edition. With regard to the iWoc button, I like it. It keeps the bike looking sleek and does the job well when you’re used to it. Ebikmotion do offer the bar mounted option for those that prefer it. Thanks again for taking the time to contribute 👍
@@RideWithRoy I tied tubeless on 2 bikes and did not find them satisfactory because even though they do self repair, the moment you go at speed over a bump they pop. It occurs to me that the tyres are not particularly puncture proof because in theory they self repair. My understanding is they are more suited to mountain bike tyres. Going Back to the electric bike I have found it multiplied my enjoyment many fold. I ride with lots of guys in their 70’s who struggle like mad especially on hills but somehow think it will be a reflection on their manhood if they go ev
They don’t seem to realise that you do not need to get to the stage where you can’t ride manual and I bet there only regret when they do buy one is that they waited so long
Your comment about elderly riders pushing it is timely. I’m currently in safety discussions with a UK police force who told me that they’ve had three cyclist deaths as a result of cardiac arrest while cycling. There was no data on age, so may not have been elderly.
I have a Thudbuster ST seat post on my Surly LHT and would hate to be without it now. I've had spinal fusion surgery and I've also had rotor cuff injuries so a suspension seat post makes a huge difference to me. I think the Redshift Shockstop has more travel than the Thudbuster ST and is much more suited to gravel and trail riding. Ideal for the conditions you tested it in. For more touring orientated riding the Thubbuster ST is a good option. Nice review. JP
Thanks JP. Good to know that I wasn’t imagining the arm improvement.
@@RideWithRoy Definitely not. The suspension seat post has been a bit of a game-changer for me as I've had far fewer back issues because of it. I hope you'll do a long-term review a few months down the line. It would be interesting to hear your opinions at that point. JP
FYI..Re RS seat post..very successful indeed👍have used double spring and set at 3 like yours..although have not been on any off road yet most of the roads around my area are just like off road🤨so certainly has the desired effect👍now considering the stem🙄😊cheers😊
That good to hear, Keith. Your’s and Alastair’s comments support my experience. As has been said, it’s not cheap but one of those items that really does make a difference. 👍
@@RideWithRoy
Did the stem fit OK on your e?
I’ve put a ShockStop stem now on 3 of my bikes. Even on my long distance Ti road bike. With the state of the roads, the stem reduces fatigue and I believe I keep a higher average speed over a longer distance.
Also, you can buy from Amazon in the U.K. which is supplied by redshift so you can actually get them the next day if you can’t wait 😏😉
I also find I go faster. Yes, Amazon is the best way to order in the UK. There’s a link to it in the description.
Very interesting review and you have really given me something to think about! I’m still running the original Marathons on my e and find the ride quite hard even after deflating the tyres to 65psi and considered changing them to something else, however the seat post may be a better alternative. It is available through Amazon…expensive but the reviews look good and combined with your own video looks just the job🤔watch this space👍😊
I am amazed by it, Keith. This is the Amazon link, amzn.to/3BljUeT
Just realised Red shift make a Kitchen Sink handlebars I'm thinking of getting as a upgrade to my gravel bike, for touring.
Hi Roy - another great video, thanks; your channel is becoming an extensive back catalogue of very useful advice for owners of the Ribble CGR! Quick question - I have the ALe, and bouncing around on off-road tracks and bridleways is beginning to take its toll on hands and wrists. It seems the Redshift stem could be the perfect solution. Wanted to check - is the steerer tube size the 28.6mm (taking the view my Ribble CGR is exactly the same as yours)? Many thanks...
Yes, Andrew, it fits the Ribble and I often swap the stem between my other bikes. I know it’s all a lot of money, but the seat-post also makes a huge difference on bumpy surfaces.
Expensive items but how much do we spend on all the other bits and bobs trying to make a bike comfortable..on my wish list too!
For this testing you should have tried road tyres @ 100psi.. no stem and seat… then with the stem and seat..
Then tried it with gravel tyres no seat and stem.. and then with stem.
In my experience…I have the stem myself. It’s great. It def reduces road buzz on road tyres… on gravel tyres I find the tyres remove a lot of buzz… but it add extra comfort…
In terms of perceived suspension, I think it’s about the same as going from road to gravel tyres.
And I also had arm issues with the vibration
I paid U.K. full price… it’s cheaper then the physio I would have needed having not bought it.
I’d never ride a road bike with out it !!
I mainly ride a mix of gravel and road on 35mm tyres so wanted to test how these would improve the ride on that setup. I no longer have a pure road bike and tyres so couldn’t go the to extent you suggest. However, your explanation of your experience has bridged that gap well and covered all the bases. Thanks 👍
OK, no mention of tripods or bipods this time! I have a USB sus seat post that worked amazingly well, but I've always thought the Redshift post looks a much better design, due to the parallelogram that goes backwards when it goes down. Must get one 😕
Needed one (or both) of these when I last did Dirty Reiver, as had terrible fatigue & only completed the 130
No, she’s around, so being extra careful 😀
I have the same Ribble cgr e. What size and length post did you fit? Thanks
Hello Christopher. The seat post is supplied with the unit and size 27.2mm dia fits the CGR. I haven’t measured it but it’s plenty long enough.
I miss the shock absorption of 531 forks of my old 80s dawes super galaxy, but that stem might help, although at the moment a bit expensive,
Had I seen the price before I tried it I would have been put off, Michael. Redshift have offered to extend the loan of the demo unit so you are welcome to meet up and try it on your Dawes.
@@RideWithRoy unfortunately, I'm working in Sheffield, not sure how long for, done 2 weeks and now another 2 weeks possibly more. and next Saturday going over to Cosby in Leicestershire for the Victory show a massive WW2 re- enactment
Holy smokes you weren't kidding on the price. Bit out of my price range, but that stem looks really interesting.
As I said in the video, Rob, I really resist spending money where I can. I’ve also done well enough so far without this kit. In some ways I wish Redshift hadn’t sent the seatpost and then I wouldn’t have known how good it is 😀. The way I am trying to justify it to myself is that if I was choosing between two new bikes and one was more expensive by the same amount as the cost of these, but included this system, the decision to go for the more expensive bike would be easier.
Look for used ones. Often cost 30 - 50% less but are still good.
I watched this video with great interest when you first released it as I have always experienced numb hands after only +/-45 minutes of riding. Yes, I have had a professional bike fit with a really experienced fitter but to no avail. I am now starting to experience meaningful lower back pain that has kept me off the bike for a few months.
My question is, after many months of use, do you feel that the Redshift products would be a good addition to an older Specialized Tarmac?
I never suffered from back pain, Don, so difficult to comment, but I have suffered numb hands. Far be it from me to argue against bike fitting, but I know others who have even developed discomfort after bike fit, where they never had pain before. I do occasionally suffer from numb hands, and it’s always after a change of saddle position. I know the law says we have to have a perfectly horizontal saddle, but I need to have a slightly nose up angle. If not I get numb hands - even with the Redshift stem. I’m pretty sure a fitter would set my saddle up horizontally. I know a couple of people that have tweaked their position AFTER spending money on a professional fit. The only time I couldn’t solve numb hands was when I bought a bike that was too large for me, and no bike fitter would overcome that. After saying all that, I would not recommend the Redshift stem for your situation as I doubt it would solve it alone. What I would do is experiment with saddle position, including height and fore and aft. The Redshift products are excellent components that I would still heartily recommend to improve overall comfort, but basic comfort has to be there first.
@@RideWithRoy Thank you very much Roy for the detailed response to this complicated problem. I was hoping that a simple addition of some components would assist but your point that "basic comfort has to be there first" clearly answers my question.
You mention saddles. I have tried three different ones this past year with little, if any, change. Perhaps that is due to my setting each new one up in precisely the same manner as the bike fitter had.
As you have suggested, it's time to start experimenting with fore/aft and height adjustments.
Thank you again for your honest answer. It's refreshing to have an on-line support such as yourself who isn't just interested in selling product if it has no reasonable hope of correcting an issue.
Please feel free to email me on ridingwithroy@gmail.com to discuss some more if you wish.
I have the stem I’ll have to save up for the seat post now
I love the seatpost.
Thank you! Can I ask, what setting do you use and your weight?
I’m 83 kg and I set the tension to the Redshift chart, which is included. Is easily adjustable, so, depending on the surfaces I’m riding, I do change the tension accordingly.
Thank you Roy! I’m 93kg and I’m on setting 4 just to set up the 20% sag… I fear I may be too heavy! Hopefully a test ride today!
Great videos, thank you
@matthewreeves5843 if you have a problem, Redshift can supply a heavier duty spring.
Probably not for me. Suspension systems keep cropping up on the Paris- Roubex, but none have really gained any following. A better alternative might be a mtb with suspension. You can often get smooth faster treaded tires for them. Hardtail mtb would be a good compromise.
I do have a Cube hardtail MTB, David, and have run it on smoother tyres in the summer, as I’m not into difficult trails. It may be that there are lighter versions, but I do find it heavy and the gearing doesn’t lend itself to faster speeds on Tarmac. I rode 100k in Spain on a Scott MTB, mainly on tarmac, and really knew about it the next morning. I could certainly do without the Redshift suspension kit, but I’m pleased I don’t have to. As I think I said in the video, rather than slowing me due to the extra weight, strangely, it seems to have increased my average speed. I’ve since heard this from others.
Good for london roads?
If they are as bad as most roads in the UK, yes 😀
I’d love one, but too big..(seat post )