I think stems and seatposts like these and the Redshift alternatives are the best way to go for gravel bikes. Just enough suspension for the capabilities of the bikes and they're reasonably affordable and low maintenance.
That is an interesting look with the saddle going up and down with each pedal stroke. Looks kind of unsetteling from just looking at it but then my full suspension mt. bike does do a lot of moving I just don't see it work. Will have to try one sometime as I am getting a hard tail for bike paths and roads soon.
Very cool review. Not asthetically pleasing but it looks like it works well. I'm shopping for a mostly road and bad road shock damper on my stiff road bikes for when I'm all healed so your review & other UA-cam reviews help a lot! Thanks Mike.
I have a ShockStop stem and find I need to regularly clean it as it starts to make creaking/squeaky noises from debris (water, dust?) getting in between the elastomers. Would the kinect suspension stem have a similar problem?
I'm curious if you think it's worth adding the suspension stem to a Trek Marlin with front shocks? I'm older and have somewhat sensitive wrists. I'm still dialing in the bike with tire pressures and adjusting the KINEKT 2.1, but I'm always interested in dampening out the bigger bumps on packed dirt trails and bumpy paved streets/paths. Thanks for the great video.
Nice review. I like the seat post a lot, but sadly this don’t come with a lock out. Between this and the Redshift, which one can I set up more stiffest or rigid?
On cirrus cycles website They have mentioned that 50 angle stem is less effective on more Back sweep Handlebar. You have shown 90mm length . What’s your views on this ? Because I have Ritchey Kyote bar too. I have ordered 90mm from USA for 115 dollars .
Really depends, I have a video on if suspension is worth it, I think they work best together. If you have to only start with one , get whatever helps what hurts you worst. So if your ass and lower back or shoulders and wrists hurt more go with that
How do you compare it against the Redshift suspension stem? I have 2 scenarios where I want to get a stem like this for: occasional parts of asphalt roads that are broken and lead to unavoidable big uncomfortable shocks, and cobble roads that take away some enjoyment of rides that are otherwise great (no cars, great view). My bike is of the MTB type, modified for touring. I've installed a handle bar raiser and my current stem is angled to 50 degrees up.
I wonder how will that sus-seatpost and sus-stem combo work on a full suspension fat bike? Will it be "too much plush"? Or will fat tires, front/rear shocks, stem and seatpost movement cancel each other out?
I'm curious how it would perform under a heavier rider. What you said about the stiffest springs still being easy to bottom out. How would it be for 275+ riders? You said you used the stiff springs and you don't appear to be that heavy. I feel like the stiffest springs won't be enough. I tend to like my suspension stiff for my full suspension bikes.
Will this stem work with setback handlebars, will you feel the suspension being that the grip on say a Jones bar which is 45 degree is behind and not on the same axis as the handlebar clamp?
If you have time: "I check my comments every single day". It's why I left a comment as I figured I'd get a reply. Anyway, appreciate the review. You can see my question in a previous comment. Looking to buy the redshift or kinekt. Maybe I should just order both and try them for myself to see which I like best and is best suited for my riding.
Sorry I dunno how I missed the last comment but I’m a fan of the red shift parts I have a full review for both items, the seatposts are very different in feel. I’d watch my thoughts back to back to see what fits your needs best. Stem wise I would say red shift.
@@PaulVoorberg I had both the redshift and kinekt seatpost . Hands down for the average riding we do on Gravel Bikes the Redshift just works better . It seems to shall we say ride with you . Where the Kinekt bounces you. If you really hit a deep pothole the Kinekt would absorb that better . I notice on the electricbikereview forum 90% of those guys use the kinekt . But the average age rider is probably 55 . Although I noticed when the Vado SL came out . They were going with Redshift . Don't buy both . Buy the redshift first . If you don't feel it does the job then buy the other brand . To buy them together is sorta wasting money intentionally
@@cramerlong2276 Yeah I got the Redshift and liking it. At first I was like hmm, barely noticing it, but I like that about it. It works behind the scenes rather than giving you that bouncy feeling. I didn't try the kinekt but I did try a spring seatpost and didn't like it. Made my bike feel like a skippy ball, not a lean mean machine anymore so returned that one and it convinced me to go for the Redshift elastomer stem
@@LockedinCycling installed mine a few days ago. Still adjusting height and tension on springs. So they redesigned it so you can tune it on a ride if you wish. A tool is no longer needed. No more tools needed to fine tune spring tension. The carbon fiber post now comes with the cover included.
@@LockedinCycling Actually, in checking the Cirrus/Kinekt website today, I see that they do have a 25.4mm size. For myself, I just ordered the 27.2 with a shim to make it 30.4.
How is that at all ugly? It looks awesome. Most suspension looks pretty awesome. Too heavy? Compared to what? An entire front suspension? Full squish? Did it suck 0.02 from your watt average buddy? Y’all say you can really feel the inefficiencies, I’m sure it has nothing to do with a placebo effect of any kind…
I work in a shop and a customer had that seat post. Im not sure how, but the seat post pinched/ cut open his leg. I feel like that protective cover should come standard.
I never had that issue or see how that coulda happened unless he fell onto it some how, but from someone who worked at a shop we’ve heard crazier things 😂
Good review. Just why O why do they have to make the springs a grey color and the rest black???? Nevertheless, I stick to my SR Suntour NCX...it is better, nicer, and stronger saddle clamps. So....bye bye Kinekt, for not taking style serious. Your grey...is so ugly on this stem. My feedback. This is why I use the NCX by Suntour, and the Kinekt I sold second hand, for cheap. I don't use any stem suspensions, since I use them all on MTB with suspension forks. For the ones I use for gravel and riding they all have a SR Senior NCX. Since I like it looks and feel better, and I used and tested many suspension seat posts, this SR one came out best for me. Good luck!
@@LockedinCycling You couldn't have been more efficient and to the point. Great review for sure. Just I'm 72 here so fast talking causes me to have to go back and hear what you have to say over again which is fine cuz the videos allow me to make that happen. Keep up the great work! Really enjoyed that.
I use the Kinekt suspension stem on my Trek 1120. It and the 3” dhf tires really smooth out the ride on a ridged frame n fork setup. Love it !
Most outstanding evaluation! Thank you for your thoughts, for your effort in testing and evaluating these systems!!
Lots of information in a very reasonable presentation. I learned a lot, so thanks!
Good stuff. My commute looks like it was strafed by a bomber. So I'm studying seat posts. Thanks a bunch.
I think stems and seatposts like these and the Redshift alternatives are the best way to go for gravel bikes. Just enough suspension for the capabilities of the bikes and they're reasonably affordable and low maintenance.
I used to have a Girvin Flex stem on my old Raleigh Apex years ago. Worked pretty well.
Great comments! Please take a look at BySchulz G2 seatpost suspension!
When you increase the preload tension on the seat post, do you lose a bit of suspension travel?
I never noticed it feeling like I lost a range of travel.
That is an interesting look with the saddle going up and down with each pedal stroke. Looks kind of unsetteling from just looking at it but then my full suspension mt. bike does do a lot of moving I just don't see it work. Will have to try one sometime as I am getting a hard tail for bike paths and roads soon.
Very cool review. Not asthetically pleasing but it looks like it works well. I'm shopping for a mostly road and bad road shock damper on my stiff road bikes for when I'm all healed so your review & other UA-cam reviews help a lot! Thanks Mike.
I have a ShockStop stem and find I need to regularly clean it as it starts to make creaking/squeaky noises from debris (water, dust?) getting in between the elastomers. Would the kinect suspension stem have a similar problem?
I never had that issue with my shock stop stem but this would have similar issue I’d assume with the spring but mine never made noise
@@LockedinCycling I wonder if my problem is a manufacturing defect or specific to the ShockStop Pro...
I'm curious if you think it's worth adding the suspension stem to a Trek Marlin with front shocks? I'm older and have somewhat sensitive wrists. I'm still dialing in the bike with tire pressures and adjusting the KINEKT 2.1, but I'm always interested in dampening out the bigger bumps on packed dirt trails and bumpy paved streets/paths. Thanks for the great video.
If your having wrist pain I think it help , it’s very supple.
@@LockedinCycling Thanks!
Nice review. I like the seat post a lot, but sadly this don’t come with a lock out. Between this and the Redshift, which one can I set up more stiffest or rigid?
For Kinekt stem their is knocking version in the market brand meroca stem from China . What’s your view on that ?
@@chandrashekarmudhol I haven’t seen or tested it out, I’ve had the best luck with the red shift stems so far
On cirrus cycles website They have mentioned that 50 angle stem is less effective on more Back sweep Handlebar. You have shown 90mm length . What’s your views on this ? Because I have Ritchey Kyote bar too. I have ordered 90mm from USA for 115 dollars .
Waiting for your reply
How do you install the damper kit?
Thanks for the review.... If you had to choose between the suspension seatpost and the suspension stem, which one would you go with?
Really depends, I have a video on if suspension is worth it, I think they work best together. If you have to only start with one , get whatever helps what hurts you worst. So if your ass and lower back or shoulders and wrists hurt more go with that
How do you compare it against the Redshift suspension stem? I have 2 scenarios where I want to get a stem like this for: occasional parts of asphalt roads that are broken and lead to unavoidable big uncomfortable shocks, and cobble roads that take away some enjoyment of rides that are otherwise great (no cars, great view).
My bike is of the MTB type, modified for touring. I've installed a handle bar raiser and my current stem is angled to 50 degrees up.
From what I gather the Kinekt version is squishier.
I wonder how will that sus-seatpost and sus-stem combo work on a full suspension fat bike? Will it be "too much plush"? Or will fat tires, front/rear shocks, stem and seatpost movement cancel each other out?
I’ve never ridden a fat bike so I’m not sure but I’d check out my redshift shock top reviews those are more tuneable so that may work better
would the stem do any harm on hydraulic brake line, maybe loosen connection on handlebar from constant movement
I wouldn’t see why since mountain bikes have suspension forks with hydro brakes and are fine
So turning clockwise makes it firmer - right?
Hello there… love your review! 🎉. What T handle ratcheting tool is that your using please?
Fix it sticks I have a review on my channel
I'm curious how it would perform under a heavier rider. What you said about the stiffest springs still being easy to bottom out. How would it be for 275+ riders? You said you used the stiff springs and you don't appear to be that heavy. I feel like the stiffest springs won't be enough. I tend to like my suspension stiff for my full suspension bikes.
Great review, thanks!
Will this stem work with setback handlebars, will you feel the suspension being that the grip on say a Jones bar which is 45 degree is behind and not on the same axis as the handlebar clamp?
It should since it's not a pivot suspension system but a parallelogram one. 😉
I have to wonder if the width of the handlebar will affect the amount of force it takes to move the stem
Well since its a flat bat i have less weight over the stem, if it was a drop bar ur wait is more forward so it be more active
Ok funny video idea. Put these on a full sus mountain bike. All the squish!
Double squish
If you have time: "I check my comments every single day". It's why I left a comment as I figured I'd get a reply. Anyway, appreciate the review. You can see my question in a previous comment. Looking to buy the redshift or kinekt. Maybe I should just order both and try them for myself to see which I like best and is best suited for my riding.
Sorry I dunno how I missed the last comment but I’m a fan of the red shift parts I have a full review for both items, the seatposts are very different in feel. I’d watch my thoughts back to back to see what fits your needs best. Stem wise I would say red shift.
@@LockedinCycling Thanks for your reply and thoughts on this. Good to know which you prefer having used them both.
@@PaulVoorberg I had both the redshift and kinekt seatpost . Hands down for the average riding we do on Gravel Bikes the Redshift just works better . It seems to shall we say ride with you . Where the Kinekt bounces you. If you really hit a deep pothole the Kinekt would absorb that better . I notice on the electricbikereview forum 90% of those guys use the kinekt . But the average age rider is probably 55 . Although I noticed when the Vado SL came out . They were going with Redshift . Don't buy both . Buy the redshift first . If you don't feel it does the job then buy the other brand . To buy them together is sorta wasting money intentionally
@@cramerlong2276 Yeah I got the Redshift and liking it. At first I was like hmm, barely noticing it, but I like that about it. It works behind the scenes rather than giving you that bouncy feeling. I didn't try the kinekt but I did try a spring seatpost and didn't like it. Made my bike feel like a skippy ball, not a lean mean machine anymore so returned that one and it convinced me to go for the Redshift elastomer stem
Have you seen the carbon version?
I have. On the site but not in person
@@LockedinCycling installed mine a few days ago. Still adjusting height and tension on springs. So they redesigned it so you can tune it on a ride if you wish. A tool is no longer needed. No more tools needed to fine tune spring tension. The carbon fiber post now comes with the cover included.
Unfortunately, it doesn't come in the tiny seatpost diameter of my 90s Hardtail MTB.
Yea 27.2 is the smallest
@@LockedinCycling Actually, in checking the Cirrus/Kinekt website today, I see that they do have a 25.4mm size. For myself, I just ordered the 27.2 with a shim to make it 30.4.
Hey dude! Do you know if anyone offers a suspension seatpost that uses the D-Fuse shape?
Not that I’m aware of I know the newest models you get a wedge to swap between d fuse and standard shape
Thanks @@LockedinCycling ! Will look into it.
Is it possible to fully lock the suspension seatpost when riding on smooth roads for more efficiency?
No it doesn’t have that feature
How is that at all ugly? It looks awesome. Most suspension looks pretty awesome. Too heavy? Compared to what? An entire front suspension? Full squish? Did it suck 0.02 from your watt average buddy? Y’all say you can really feel the inefficiencies, I’m sure it has nothing to do with a placebo effect of any kind…
Deberían ofrecer en grados negativos la Potencia, algo así como -7° ó -10°. 🤤
I work in a shop and a customer had that seat post. Im not sure how, but the seat post pinched/ cut open his leg. I feel like that protective cover should come standard.
I never had that issue or see how that coulda happened unless he fell onto it some how, but from someone who worked at a shop we’ve heard crazier things 😂
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Your saddle is also a couple mils too high
Good review. Just why O why do they have to make the springs a grey color and the rest black???? Nevertheless, I stick to my SR Suntour NCX...it is better, nicer, and stronger saddle clamps. So....bye bye Kinekt, for not taking style serious. Your grey...is so ugly on this stem. My feedback. This is why I use the NCX by Suntour, and the Kinekt I sold second hand, for cheap. I don't use any stem suspensions, since I use them all on MTB with suspension forks. For the ones I use for gravel and riding they all have a SR Senior NCX. Since I like it looks and feel better, and I used and tested many suspension seat posts, this SR one came out best for me. Good luck!
Con is the amount of money it cost 😑
Great review however why are you talking so fast? Sounds like ya trying to get the review over so you can go get ice cream or something?
Cause I try to be efficient with my videos I cut out all the dead air so u can watch it, get the info you need, and go get that ice cream
@@LockedinCycling You couldn't have been more efficient and to the point. Great review for sure. Just I'm 72 here so fast talking causes me to have to go back and hear what you have to say over again which is fine cuz the videos allow me to make that happen. Keep up the great work! Really enjoyed that.