I agree with the loss of family. I lost my father my senior year of high school, and my mother a year and a half later. I was homeless at nineteen and it's not easy getting back on your feet when you literally have nothing.
A Hubert that’s why it’s better to get it in your early 20s so it can be like $20-30 /mo vs waiting till your 30s where it will only guy up exponentially and most can’t afford or just don’t want to pay that much
Very true. In my experience, bad/insufficient credit keeps more people from finding housing than lack of funds. Beyond that, the requirement that you make 3 times your rent is a little extreme (imho), especially in cities where rent is skyrocketing.
Agreed. 3x your income, means that only the very upper and middle class can even begin to afford anything on their own. I literally had to move in with a stranger to afford rent. In a city that was super affordable less than 10 years ago.... this shit is going to catch up with society some day... and with these greedy asses that go on about the market, it sucks. But in reality theres no changing it, we just have to deal with it until it gets too bad, then maybe one of these shitty politicians might do something about it
@@moriallen643 Denver, by chance? That's where I was for years, but can't afford it anymore. The rent on the place in was living increased about 50% in a couple years. See ya. Before that I had a foreclosure so my credit was screwed for years. It's good now but man, I was definitely experiencing "housing insecurity" during those years, basically had to find people willing to rent a room or basement to me AND 2 kitties. I still have regular nightmares about it.
@@annetreacy2437 Charlotte NC. A ton of people moving in from NYC, so the prices have to "adjust" to those people comming in. Its to the point where there are more people from NYC than from Charlotte.. in Charlotte. I've only met a few dozen or so people from Charlotte in my entire life here. Everyone else is a proud New Yorker, so prices hace been skyrocketing my entire life here... and still rising. Average rent for a studio is now 900-1000. If you want a room or, god forbid 2 rooms, youre looking at 1500 minimum a month
@Mice Elf okay New York in general, the point still remains. It's a much more expensive state than NC. And in my "anecdotal survey" I've only met a handful of people NOT from out of state living in CHARLOTTE, not the areas around Charlotte. I am born and raised in Charlotte, so I've had thousands of encounters. And in my experience, most people from Charlotte actually end up having to move to Gastonia or Mathews or Harrisburg or wherever, because the city of Charlotte is just too expensive. Myself included. I live on the boarder of Charlotte (some 20-25 miles away from the city center) , because nowhere else is affordable. And those who are thriving in Charlotte tend to be from new England in general, whether that be Delaware, NY, Philadelphia or the likes. Thus demand is through the roof, and those comming in will often tell me that 1200/mo is cheap, compared to up north. But not if you were used to the prices of Charlotte housing just 10-15 years ago (which were well under 800/mo on average, from my memory )
Having been homeless for two years, I can tell you that from my observation of the community, the number one and two reasons for homelessness is mental illness and drug dependency. Fortunately I escaped that trap, but its pervasive. I've seen organizations set people up in nice apartments, but the people just walk out of them and go back on the streets. Unfortunately a large part of the community can't be helped with just housing.
The issue with that is that tracking down the cause/effect is really hard, is mental illness that causes homelessness or are homeless people often prey to mental illness? Same goes for drug abuse, people self medicate to try to escape their anxieties and overall feeling horrible all the time. The main driver of homelessness is poverty, people feel hopeless, are in a poverty trap and can't get out of it, then mental illness sets in and you have a self-feeding cycle of crapness nobody can get out by themselves.
@@Koroistro I believe you're right on both counts. But I've seen so many abandoned family members just dropped off like puppies, because the family couldnt cope with their mental illness. Or cope with their drug dependency. I volunteer at a rescue mission, and 80% of our overnights are people like this. Its heartbreaking to see. Some of these are men with dementia and incontinence, and the families dont want them back. So we are the only resourse left. Unfortunately it will always be like this. But good people manage to find a way to help.
This is absolutely true and no one wants to admit it. Giving most of these people free everything will not work. You have to get the addicts sober and that will be so hard. As long as they are in the addict mind frame they will take advantage of every thing you do to help to continue their addiction. Lack of cheap homes is not the problem. That will help only a small handful of the homeless.
@@popdefender460 Cruing people of addiction isn't a trivial task, you have to give them hope in the future (drugs are the "short term relief"), reliable sources of basic necessities, and of resources to become independent are key.
Austin is my home and seeing Californians transform it in my life time is one of the worst tragedies. The city used to have so much personality and now it's just nu-SanFran.
I'm born and raised in SF and I've seen it change, very similar to how you are explaining it. The people who came in 20 years ago, took it over, changed it to their liking, then moved on to cheaper places like Austin to do it there is a shame. It's Tech, though, not San Francisco or San Franciscans that are to blame. It's like the college town mindset where you go somewhere new for 4 years on mommy/daddy's dime and use it like your playground and move on, with no care for people who call that place home
It’s conversations like this that make me such a huge fan of Joe Rogan’s podcast. We (the public) need to hear these conversations. I’ve personally lived through a catastrophic loss of family & been homeless. It wasn’t easy getting back on my feet. I didn’t realize until I watched this just how to conceptualize what happened. Thank you Joe 🙏
I’m homeless now, been living out of my car for 8 months. It’s been a struggle but I know I’ll get through it. Moved across the country twice which totally messed me up financially to where I’ve never been late on bills to trying to catch up on my credit card payments. There’s so much more to the story but with rent being outrageously high and all these stipulations, it’s makes it difficult. I make pretty good money but with insurance, 401k, taxes, and other things taken out of my paycheck, makes it difficult which is why I’m looking to find a second job to fit my schedule. So basically, like he said, there’s all different types of homelessness people. It can happen to anyone. But I’m not asking for sympathy or anything, just telling my story. It sucks but I’m doing this all for my Daughter and I hate being away from her. I want her to have a great education and if this means that I’m homeless for a while, so be it. She’s my world!! Yes, it’s not a healthy situation to be in as in in not having a proper place..yet...but it gives me, us, time together on weekends instead of being 2700mi away.
I stumbled across a podcast that claimed they are bigger than JR, and they are. I listened and watched some clips for about 20 minutes and it's just...lame. You get dumber by watching that crap. So yea, JR often has quality, you might not like some guests, but there are plenty that you will like.
@@victorantonio6131 Not sure why something so personal could make you very curious, especially loss of family. There are some things you don't ask strangers about that you simply don't need or deserve to know. Loss of family is one of those things. Please think about that in future before you ask that question as it would be just as far outside the of the social norm or acceptable in person as it would be online and I think you know that. That's not a question you would ask to a stranger in person. Don't do it online either.
"Catastrophic loss of family". That is deep, and not only in the sense that he used it. That is the practical origin to so many societal ills. Even if you have a family, if it's not serving it's purpose, one can still suffer the effects of a "catastrophic loss of family". A lot of support issues require the motivation of love. No institution is designed to love you. If it does, it's considered another type of...family.
I was raised by my Grandmother. She was my Mom and my Dad. When she passed away, my whole family seemed to scatter to the winds. It was really hard adjusting as a young man. I was never homeless honestly but I drove a razors edge with that forr awhile. I just mention this because I see how it could bring a person to live such a life. Thankfully I decided that was not the life for me, now I have my own place, a decent job, a band as my hobby, about finally get a car... I had to really pull myself up by the boot straps and it was really hard without her guidance. I feel the pain. Destroys me how many people are so lost.
@MrWagman11 the hard decisions that you speak of is bringing back the Salem witch trials and sending these devil worshippers into a society like George Orwells 1984.
@@hellman5820 seem extra cold behind that screen there buddy. All talk. But 100% if i put a gun in your hand, you ain't shootin' a damn thing. Dunno if ya realize it or not, but those are people you talkin bout. If there is a firing squad, lets line people like you up first to be "taken care of."
He is 100% correct about local Austin politicians. I attended the first town hall after the camping ban lift. 4 members of city council and the mayor spoke as well as a professor . Each spoke for about ten minutes, each one said the word “housing” about 15 times and none of them ever mentioned addiction or mental health. They did mention that these people are your neighbors a bunch. These people were not there to solve a problem l, they were there to tell us about their progressive ideas and how they would be implemented
I was homeless for about 6 months. He is absolutely correct when he says it is often times due to cartographic loss of family and the sense of need to be a part of a community. I most definitely found that in the homeless camp I was at. I still have yet to find anything like that. Regardless of the race, age, gender, mental state, or issue anyone may have had... COMMUNITY. FAMILY REALLY! We cared for one another. We didn’t discriminate or demoralize each other. We worked together and even held weekly meetings. I honestly miss so much about that. Now, don’t get me wrong, it’s by no means easy. I am fortunate to have gotten on my feet again. Had it not been for the support, love , and respect I received there, I may have just given up on life all together! I am beyond grateful for the experience! It was humbling. It was a necessary part of my growth! Love really IS the answer!💚✌🏼🙏
It's his fucking money you envious fuck.. he can spend it however he wants. We dont bother you spending money on weed right... maybe give that 20 dollars to the next junkie.
I lived in Austin for quite some time, and I see it's kind of like this. Austin used to be a great city. Then all of a sudden the technology companies started moving in, along with the yuppies. The city, and surrounding areas started building more, and the cost of living started going up. So basically, Austin has become just like any other city. It has grown so much, and the cost of living has become unaffordable; which helps create more of a homeless problem.
atrain132 - It isn’t a cost of living issue. It’s the acceptance of letting people live on the streets. Case in point, Seattle has a huge “homeless” issue, yet right next to Seattle is Bellevue that does not have an issue. Bellevue is more expensive housing than Seattle so it should have more of a problem based on your statement. Bellevue doesn’t tolerate it, that is why there isn’t a problem there.
@@montestu5502 yeah lol, I didn't say that's the only factor to it all. There are more like drug / alcohol addictions, ect. Your also comparing a small town with a population of about 150k, versus major cities with populations of 2-3 million. A hell of a lot easier to control.
@@montestu5502 So what they go over to Seattle then? Really fixed the problem for Washington didn't they? I am 100% for having the Mental Institution infrastructure Carter created we had before Reagan closed them all down. www.nytimes.com/1984/10/30/science/how-release-of-mental-patients-began.html www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/04/timeline-mental-health-america/ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_Health_Systems_Act_of_1980 www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4364434/ sites.psu.edu/psy533wheeler/2017/02/08/u01-ronald-reagan-and-the-federal-deinstitutionalization-of-mentally-ill-patients/comment-page-1/ "The Mental Health Systems Act of 1980 (MHSA) was United States legislation signed by President Jimmy Carter which provided grants to community mental health centers. In 1981 President Ronald Reagan and the U.S. Congress repealed most of the law." "President John F. Kennedy signs the Community Mental Health Act to provide federal funding for the construction of community-based preventive care and treatment facilities. Between the Vietnam War and an economic crisis, the program was never adequately funded." "Under President Ronald Reagan, the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act repeals Carter’s community health legislation and establishes block grants for the states, ending the federal government’s role in providing services to the mentally ill. Federal mental-health spending decreases by 30 percent." Seems pretty obvious to me. We cut Federal Mental Health services in 1981. One Generation later in the year 2000 we all ready have beginnings of massive homeless and drug addiction problems. In 2020 its full blown. And we aren't even saving money because instead of Mental Institutes we are jailing people at a higher rate then ever.
In my country, there are so many laws that make homelessness illegal. Once that happens you are unable to prove your identity with enough points of ID and therefore unable to hold a bank account, unable to be legally employed, and unable to rent a property, etc. It is a legal spiral... that spirals out of control.
@Indra Guillory Australia. There are a lot of laws that require holding an address so that fines can be posted to you. Those laws are circular and stop you from being able to re-enter society. For example, rental lease laws require proof of identity, and proof of identity requires a residential address history. Same for holding a bank account, a drivers license, a medicare card, and the ability to qualify for welfare payments. We also have loitering laws that make it illegal to be anywhere in public without enough money on your person and residential and camping laws that make sleeping outside illegal.
(Whole country of homeless people start homesteading and stop being homeless, same country surprised when homesteading ends and the homeless come back.)
This guy is a fucking idiot... Number one cause of homelessness he says is loss of family! You could lose your family all you want if you're totally Rich you won't be homeless! has nothing to do with family it's 100% financial and this Rich piece of shit acts like he knows better than everyone else!!!
It's a nightmare in LA. There are random tents in bushes. Freeway overpasses have entire communities living under them. The crazy thing is people act like its not even a thing. People are buying expensive condos in downtown LA while being a couple of blocks over from entire homeless settlements. It's mind boggling.
@Alan Jensen we've been a "me" society for quite a while now. I'm old enough to remember the 1980's (maybe you are too). We were very much a "me" society then. And homelessness in LA was not nearly has bad then.
Jett Slappy It’s more that the city has been so against expanding infrastructure to meet a growing population (while still bringing Silicon Valley business in) that they ended up making cost of living insane for locals. Austin tried for years not to be a big, sprawling city, so now it’s crowded, full of homeless camps, and too expensive for the people who made Austin so special in the first place.
Like he said catastrophic loss of family. When my mother passed 7 years ago the group of friends I had offered whatever help I needed at the time. I tried to stand alone and face my own issues without having to lean on anyone. Within 6 months I noticed those that offered had started pulling away stating that I had changed. That statement didn't miss any mark. The experience changed me. Fortunately I am not homeless but I also am not far from it. The thing we need to understand a teach our youth is that no matter what you believe there is no normal. And politicians don't resolve issues they create them. As far as my view on homeless if they are there by choice fuckem the rest that were forced into the situation need help. I myself try to talk to those I meet and if they fit my definition I will give whatever I can. The rest get told what's up.
I live in San Diego and the scooters originated here in California. They were EVERYWHERE. On peoples lawns, all over the streets and corners. Our city eventually mandated a law that designated areas for them to be placed. It’s not so bad anymore.
I went to California for the first time in my life last year and well I dont really see the change you're talking about. Maybe it was worse before but when I went to visit there was a scooter on the ground maybe every 3 or 4 blocks apart and in the way. Sometimes I would see like 5 scooters thrown in front of someones store or lawn lol. I Live in New York so the only thing I ever see is CITI Bank bikes you can rent at designated areas.
I went to SD for the first last summer and saw an insane amount of scooters. So if that’s not so bad anymore, I’d love to see how it was before😂 every time I saw one I’d yell to my girl “I’m a BIRD motherfucker I’m a BIRD!!” Because they’re all Bird scooters
It’s sad that at 23 years old, after finishing high school, going to college for 2 years, working from the time I was 17 and with a partner to support me- I’ve been faced with homelessness on multiple occasions. Had it not been for family members (provinces away) who were willing to take me in, or for the 80 year old couple that said ‘we started with nothing and someone gave us a chance’, or for the fact that I was born musically talented and could busk for money everyday on the sidewalk- if it weren’t for these things I would have been homeless a long time ago.
No one seems willing to accept that young people today have it rough compared to Boomers and older Gen. Xers. Stagnant wages, taxes, and declining purchasing power of the dollar are not doing us any favors. These ships have sailed, though. I try to do what I can and enjoy what I can. Hopefully your situation improves as well.
@@bertrathkin4298 I almost forgot the 12 thousand dollars of student loan debt, and the 8 thousand dollars of CERB that I will more then likely have to pay back. On a higher note, I have successfully managed to live alone (barely) and know I am capable of getting work due to my past experiences. So I dont have to live in fear of being completely screwed if my partner jumped ship, because at the least I know i'm capable. That doesnt exactly mean that my attitude and actions in real life will exhibit those capabilities in the event of a break up or death (depression isnt a great motivator obviously) and thats half the reason things go down hill. We arent as willing, capable, motivated, or efficient when faced with the worst and thats exactly when we need to be those things in order to stop the landslide.
You had some brave and enlightened souls that wrote your constitution. While it is a document written by mortals, it is what will carry your democracy. Great chat, positive.
I live in a medium-sized city 45 minutes north of Austin and we have a huge homeless problem as well. In my job I interact with them very frequently, and anecdotally, most of them want to live the way they do. There are definitely homeless who have mental illness and haven’t been able to receive appropriate help, but those are not the majority. I talk to them and most tell me they like living as a vagrant with nothing tying them down. They network with each other to see which cities are the best to camp out in as far as enforcement of laws, ordinances and codes by the municipalities and gravitate to the lax ones. It’s taught me to not automatically feel sorry for every homeless person I see because they’re not all just down on their luck - a lot of times they’re actively choosing it as a lifestyle.
Rogan hit the nail on the head when he said mental illness is in high part to blame. I work with this demographic eavy day and based on what i see, severe mental illness is to blame in at least 50 percent of homeless cases.
So very true ive lost 4 family members in the past 2 nd s half years and ive duffered immensely have become homeless and lost everything... its not easy im glad you touched on this topic. Were not all drug abusers or alcoholics.. thanks
@@uniform1313 it's not a "Lefty Democrat" issue. It's a human issue. And if you haven't noticed, it's happening in red states just as much blue ones. If it were the Dems' fault, why the fuck hasn't Donald tried to fix it? He has barely mentioned it, let alone tried to improve the situation!
This guy is a fucking idiot... Number one cause of homelessness he says is loss of family! You could lose your family all you want if you're totally Rich you won't be homeless! has nothing to do with family it's 100% financial and this Rich piece of shit acts like he knows better than everyone else!!!
All you people who have a hard time stay strong, stay together. Every life ends, the hardness of life cant beat the fact that every life ends. The afterlife is unending, please consider this multiple times a day.
@@Ididntaskforahandleyoutube We will live a second time after death. Like we were created in the womb and God gave us a soul, we will again be resurrected (and held accountable) after death. You see, there is a world which we can see and have formulas for and predictions, and we can not deny a world we can not see... Nobody understands sleep, nobody knows where our soul is located and how it is located. Nobody understands why and how biology works. Sure, there are some fragments which we understand, but we never reach the level to create life. I don't know where you are coming from but I will keep it at this.
California: we’re the richest state! We pay the most in taxes and without us the us would fall! Also California: we need more federal money to clean up the homeless people’s shit!
Well CA is dealing with homeless people from all over the country, and city specific solutions haven’t helped at all. I think the Fed gov does need to step in and offer help, we need to work together.
@@wifine1951 I'd say Frisco and LA are shit hole's but I guess people also forget how big California is. Just so you know not all of Cali has a homeless problem just the big nasty city's.
@@wifine1951 also one of the few states that puts in more money in taxes than it takes out. I dont hear conservatives whining about handouts when they're taking em from californias economic prosperity
Wow! Haven't seen Adam Curry since the 80s-90s? With the impeccable rock star hair and the pretty-boy face - I thought he faded away into mimbo Hollywood (male bimbo) when the MTV checks ran dry, but he has surely surprised me. He seems to be a bright man with a mountain of compassion - the rarest emotion in L.A., especially for the homeless. The world needs more people like Adam Curry, with fresh ideas that work for everyone - most of all the people with very little to help themselves and living on the edge of society in a place we won't live but don't want them living there either (just go jump in the river so we don't have to help you or be reminded daily of your plight). God bless Adam Curry!
Is it possible for someone making minimum wage to afford a legal apartment with utilities etc.? If not, then how are they supposed to live if they aren't allowed to camp? When I was in my 20's I had a minimum wage job at a factory. That $3.25/hour allowed me to rent an apartment, pay utilities, get food, have a car; all of it and I had a little left over each month. Now the minimum wage is more than twice as high as when I made that wage yet there is no place where a person can even afford the rattiest apartment not to mention food, utlities etc. Paying a livable wage as the minimum wage would mostly eliminate homelessness. Instead we see them as the problem and basically just want them to go away and die. Our governments make it illegal to sleep in cars, or on benches or in alley ways, yet offer no alternatives. Its not their fault that the only wage they can get won't pay them enough to afford a home. Its the banks who created lots of inflation, its the government for printing money to pay for wars it didn't need to get into. Its also because of increasingly complex regulations which make housing twice as expensive but only a small fraction of a percent safer. Inflation will make most of us homeless in the end if our wages don't keep pace with that inflation. I think that instead of blaming the victims of our predatory economy, maybe we should fix it by either allowing for lower cost housing or rasing the minimum wage to a level high enough to allow a person to live in this world of ever rising prices.
@@RYSEAmato notv evry one who does drugs is doing them because of some deeper issue. I did drugs because i liked feeling better. Even if u alrady feel good, drugs make it better.
@@sgtshard8280 sure, but why the need to feel better? If already whole, content, fulfilled drugs are far less likely to become addictive to the point of life ruining.
@@RYSEAmato have you ever done drugs? People since the dawn of time like to get high. And addiction can be a problem but it isn't just a specific reason that u get that way. You cant lay a blanket statement about someones intentions when it cones to that.
Homeless guy broke into our mailbox a few years back so we called the sheriff. First thing the deputy told us was “It’s not against the law to be homeless” and basically shrugged his shoulders. Said they knew the guy who was stealing mail, he had been arrested multiple times and placed into shelters, but most shelters don’t allow drug addicts so this guy always ended up back on the streets to repeat the whole process again and again.
Going through someone's mailbox is a federal crime. Cop should have done something about it, what the hell. You should complain to your post office. They have their own little police, they'll come looking!
Manic Hispanic Local police in urban areas have bigger issues to deal with than a little mail theft. Just how it goes today. We have a more secure mailbox now.
Last time I was in Hollywood, Florida we had to walk down the roads because the sidewalks were packed with the homeless. Some bars had gone out of business because patrons didn't want to brave the streets they were on. The vast majority of homeless people just minded their business as we did with ours. What scares people are the hustlers who come out with a bullshit story to plead for a few bucks, they stand a little too close and you can see the hunger in their eyes as if they'll jump on you to get what they want. It's just a horrible situation with no end in sight.
I was homeless for multiple years, this dude has no idea what the hell he is talking about. You what the main issue was, what allowed me to not by homeless? Having a home! I know it is mundane to alot of people, but having shelter and no worries of losing it is a huge boost towards a productive and quality life.
@@TheRiiiight "right winger" here .. Housing with all the necessary accommodations wouldn't be a thing, yet cheap small living spaces with minimum accommodations would perhaps work. The biggest issue is the people's issues .. personal and mental
Did you listen to him? Tiny homes with real buy in creates ownership and community. Projects create neither of those things. Nobody gives a shit about a government built project and people quickly destroy it. Paying a small amount and owning your little shack is still ownership and fosters a sense of pride which translates to a lot of people living together with pride. Are you daft?
Hi. NYC resident here for 38 years and counting. There hasn’t been a squegee guy here in decades. They were rampant in the 90s I remember. They are gone
Dude! They're back. Not rampant (yet) as before but back. I've seen two squeegee guys in the past few months in NYC. I say, as long as they don't badger anyone or get violent, no big deal.
Lisa Barri 2 isn’t a lot of anything tho. I understand what you’re trying to say but they’re not back at all. Giuliani and Bloomberg brought down the hammer
@@PowerUsr1 Dude! I'm telling you I've seen a few. I'm not giving you a theoretical opinion! So are you saying I'm lying, or you don't get first hand knowledge?
@@bikesqump Not Guilliani. DE BLASIO! 2019! UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE! GROSS! DESPICABLE! nypost-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/nypost.com/2019/10/26/nyc-homeless-initiative-sends-people-across-us-without-telling-receiving-cities/amp/?amp_js_v=a3&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15835235724104&_ct=1583523661438&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fnypost.com%2F2019%2F10%2F26%2Fnyc-homeless-initiative-sends-people-across-us-without-telling-receiving-cities%2F
@ambidextrousfapper A broken money hungry capitalist focused society that believes that it's not only OK, but expected that they dislike "the poors" regardless of how they got in that situation -- Honestly if you can't figure out what 'the problem' is that causes homelessness on a global scale then idk how you're still drawing breath without someone explaining how to do it.
@@CriticoolHit If you're so simple to think capitalism causes homelessness, you haven't read a fuckin book. Capitalism is not close to perfect. But to pretend that socialism or any other idiot strategy of 'affordable housing' (read: all the places with those programs have the most homeless population per capita) is a fanciful delusion. The problem is more complicated than that. And solutions have costs. Just because you aren't aware of what those costs are doesn't change the reality.
I'm homeless now and it's been a year now. It all started after my grandmother died she raised me. I have a daughter that's 8 and I have only been able to see her a few times in the last year and Its so hard because I know being stuck carless and homeless is affecting her so much its really really hard
Been volunteering at the Springs Mission in Colorado springs for a couple years. The homeless population is made up of mentally challenged, PTSD veterans, addicts, lazy and unlucky. In equal parts. there is no one solution, but 40 years of supply side is coming home to roost. Mostly people just complain or vilify. Why not help just a little?
George Barnes III gas powered scooters? most definitely, before electric scooters came to my area a few years ago those and dirt bikes were all the rage
Ive seen crazy fast scooters!!!! In Texas, as long as you get a license plate, you can fly down city streets. I saw people with fancy custom built scooters when i visited San Antonio 2 years ago.
Mental health, drug abuse, abuse during their youth, catastrophic loss of families, sense of meaninglessness. These are all the aspects you need to fix if you want to see a change in homeless culture. One aspect changing will not fix the problem sadly and that’s from multiple first hand experiences.
Not really because those problems exist even in the non homeless. The main reason is rent and home prices are too high for poor people in CA WA NY however in poor states theres all those societal problems you mentioned but not nearly the homeless population because poor people have access to homes they can afford to rent or buy.
airhab airhab Do you work at homeless shelters? You ever had friends that are homeless? I’m just wondering because you are definitely talking out your ass. While it does affect normal people it’s the mix of all of those that lead people to the streets.
@@airhabairhab It's hard to get somebody who thinks life is meaningless, to get a job and pay rent regardless of cost. Cheaper housing would certainly help for some of them but not alot. Shame and a lack of self worth, no matter the cause of it, will make it so many wont even try to fix their lives. No single idea or program would work for everyone. You would have to do the hard work of seeing them as individuals and work with them to fix their individual problems. Too costly and time consuming for any level of government to take part in unfortunately. It wouldn't be a good return on investment even though they are human beings. This role is much better suited to a nonprofit who are not stewards of tax payer dollars and are not trying to make money, just a positive difference in peoples lives.
money printing and debt have jacked asset prices beyond affordable. Combine that with globalization and outsourcing good jobs. why are the results shocking?
Exactly, so much money has been printed that today you need $800K to buy a house that was $40K in 1965. Unfortunately, salaries haven't increased as quickly.
This guy is right on with the loss of family aspect. So many people down on their luck like that have been estranged from family, probably because of addiction, but that doesn't remove the need for some kind of community.
@Matt Houser well having proper medication would be a huge step in the right direction, then you'd also need a good support system around them to ensure they don't harm themselves or others and are actually taking their medication. I'm saying this from experience working with differently abled adults
It started with Regan getting rid of the state funded mental hospitals. Just medication isn't good enough. They need nurses, doctors and daily support meetings, just like in the old state funded mental hospitals. They would be even more effective now that we have an even better understanding of mental health.
Here's the knowledge... 90% of the folks on the street, are there because of addiction. Plain and simple. I WAS THERE, in Portland. Lived it. I was strung out on heroin and meth for 7 years, less then a year after starting I had NOTHING. I slept anywhere I could. DUMPSTERS, RECYCLERS, PORTA POTTIES... Tent city... All of it. 7 years. And I can say with total confidence the homeless crisis is Directly related to addiction and the mental illnesses associated with it. I am proud to say I've been clean over 2 years. Have a job. And getting better. It's really unbelievable.
"Affordable housing" isn't always affordable. They still base rent on a percentage of the average local rent and median wages. It should be based on what a single minimum wage earner can afford. If rent is supposed to be 25% of your wages, the rent should be the equivalent of a week's wages at a minimum wage job.
@@hillbilly4895 Good idea! Let some random move into your home with you and your family. 👏👏👏You must be one of those people who thinks the poors don't deserve to have kids either. 🙄
@@user-xd6nc6rg7b "Poors" have kids? When did this happen? Anyway, "minimum" wage implies "minimum" everything else: Options, luxuries and yes, privacy. (see: roommates above) But this is not the same as "zero" wage which implies zero all the above. This is probably why minimum and zero are different words. But hey, I'll just let you solve this pervasive social problem. Go gettem sport! You got this...I believe in you.
Minimum wage jobs = minimum skills. Minimum wage jobs are for kids just getting into the work force (part time after school job) they are not supposed to be a career. If you want a minimum wage job your whole life you need to raise the bar.
@@chrismarch6644 why dont you do some research on what minimum wage is ACTUALLY supposed to be instead of talking from your ass. images.app.goo.gl/izyrec4LnSDiYt9z6
I was hard hit with the reality of how important a sense of community was when my boyfriend and I moved to Vancouver in Canada and lived there for a year. I fell deeply depressed being away from my old place of work. Because there, everybody knew my name. And not just that, they knew me and I could be me and was respected and loved, not to mention hilarious. But in the new canadian place of work, they didn't know me, obviously, and when I tried to be me, I was looked at as odd and not funny. My community was gone and I felt it. Also, the sun was gone and I felt the heck outa that too. When I came back to Georgia, it was like a title wave of dopamine overcame me and lasted for many months.
I understand people go through rough times but my parents came to this country barely speak any English and had literally $10 in their pocket and my mom was pregnant with my older brother and they are very well off now. And I can name hundreds of more stories exactly like that one so it’s not just a one off.
I'm living in my car for 2 years now going on 3. By choice. I have managed to save thousands a year and in 5 or 6 years I'll have enough to buy some land and build my own house. Rent is a waste of money. You pay extra for the convenience and in the long run you lose out on a bunch of money. Don't judge all homeless but people like me aren't easy to spot. We are clean and move around constantly. We have jobs and look normal. There are many tiers of unhoused. I tend to think I'm God tier because in the long-run I'll be able to retire sooner and better then most just because I sacrifice creature comforts when I'm young.
"There's a lot of people with mental illness who have houses." There're also a lot of people who have suffered "catastrophic loss of family" who have houses. It's likely a combination of these two and/or other factors. Would be nice to have the numbers, if they exist.
I wouldn't read to much into the idea that most people who are homeless are mentally ill. The definition of a mental illness is defined based off of the ability of people to live their lives in a functional manner. If you're homeless there's a high likelihood you meet that definition not just because your "inability to function," but also because a large measure of how we define people's ability to function in life is whether or not they're homeless. This is a separate (but I'd argue related) issue, but our mental health system has a huge problem with being objective and avoiding circular logic.
It's probably exist in homeless shelters but it's not that accurate. It will be great also have a data of the vets, unemployment and life choices of homelessness.
Yea I noticed he was driving hard at the notion that the #1 reason people are homeless is because if that and my first thought was I'd have to see the numbers. Mental illness and drug abuse seem to be at the top of the homeless list. If you figure out those two the vast majority of homelessness would be solved.
diypictures catastrophic loss of family is what typically leads to mental illness and drug use. Things like deaths in the family, divorce, etc. Did you know children of divorce whose parents talk negatively about each other in front of them are far more detrimentally impacted than children who are sexually abused? So if you really root cause anything, it all leads back to that. The dude it right.
Really? You were expecting nuanced thoughts? From these two? Well ... you got the mindless entertainment part right, it's just not true for this particular episode.
The presidential debate is no debate. Just pre-scripted lines read of a teleprompter saying "im for all the good things and they are for all the bad things".
I live literally right there behind an on the corner and have 0 ideas what this means. I think you mean they're are homeless located there. Along with every other intersection in ATX. But yea lotsa homeless fer sherrrr.
Z Teezy i mean one of the "homeless" there is completely faking it....at the end of the day, they come back to the house across the street from me on 183/Anderson mill
ATA 2012 ohhhh gotcha. Yeah unfortunately that’s like 70% of the homeless people. They are homeless they just collect Social Security and get a couple extra hundred a week. The sad thing is when they start getting pimped out not for sex but for times on the corners just to give almost 90% of their wage to some random person that they don’t know taking advantage of their disabilities mentally. That is where it gets crazy and very dark. But to your boy this is easily or I should say this area is easily top five worst in Austin so you wanna star there you gonna see it. Next time you go up north check out the freaking Woodstock reunion that is Howard Lane. And I love Woodstock I just wasn’t alive so
There's this lack. When I lived in LA, I worked at different libraries (for my degree) but I primarily worked worked out of Pasadena-Central Public Library. They had free movies every week on Wednesday afternoon that I ran for the hearing impaired but so many homeless people with serious mental illnesses came in weekly. There were regulars to the library which would read or use the computers or whatever all day long there. And part of my training was to never get yourself into a corner because libraries ARE full of hidden spaces. Some of the homeless told us that they traveled up from skid row daily. That lady had a serious situation with her schizophrenia... she talked to herself about the people watching her.
This makes me feel like crap because I'm realizing how used to the problem I've gotten to the point where I don't even notice it anymore. I live in LA, Santa Monica to be specific, and homelessness is beyond out of control here in LA and as Joe said, it started being a "thing" a few years back. I recently went to Austin and saw some homelessness, but I wasn't really paying attention, so I'm sure it's as bad as it's being described. Going to have to move to Montana or somewhere to get away from it.
@@kekboy5127 dealing with life, when society turns it's back on humans how do you expect them to deal with it ? Also no one mention the pharmacuticals companies that pushed fentanyl on the American public causing alot of this problem the 2008 crashes which had record homes repoed (how many lost faith in the system thanks to 2008?) It's seems most people think we live in bubble that are isolated from each other with no tie into how society is invested into.... We don't live in bubbles we live in a society just like the cronavirus shows we are all interconnected
@@randyozaeta1026 like drugs? I mean, food is what? $15 a day if you are homeless eating at mcdonalds ? Less than $15 provided they don't throw away food and overeat?! Besides, it was hypothetical, but still. Why pay $$ per day to ride a scouter when you can buy one for $300? It's the same Xiaomi scooter...
True, a lot of homeless do choose to be on the street, but people seem to forget about the LARGE group of folks who are living in the rooms at the back of motels. They are stuck because they usually don't qualify for the types of aid that the homeless do, but they have no way to save and move into an actual home. Yes it's a roof, but its also a trap that is damn near impossible to get out of.
No mention of fentanyl? I live in SF, the homeless explosion coincided with the arrival of fentanyl. We'd been told it was coming for a little while, then all the sudden it was here, and what a change.
Fentanyl and the precursors for meth come from China They were trying to elimnate heroin and coke so they could take over the global drug trade the trouble started when drug dealers were not familiar with the tiny doses required.Many overdoses resulted.China is at war with the west and we better deal with it.
@@johndelong5574 I wonder. Its my understanding that most of the fentanyl is smuggled in by Mexican cartels. Who get the supplies from Mexico, but sounds like that's changing. But man, I live at ground zero for fentanyl / opiate addicts, in Soma in Sam Francisco. We were all told fentanyl was coming, and when it arrived it was a serious shitshow. And the way everyone keeps politicizing it definitely isn't helping.
The- potato-warrior yes it’s true for some! Drew Barrymore whose wealthy tried to help her dad bought him a house and shit and he kept going back to the streets he wanted to stay homeless. Like you have a rich daughter trying to help you and you rather be homeless?!!
I was homeless in NYC and LA. In nyc I slept in time square and the R, F, and Q trains. In LA there is a building with offices and motel rooms with some locks missing on the doors
Terrance Richardson if you think that’s brave you’ve gotta raise your standards, you realize being homeless In cites is like forgetting your tent but not sleeping bag in a clear summer day you just deal with it lol
@@mrbanyuwangistorytime633 notice my eyes rolling emoji, its sarcasm. Being homeless isn't a goal, skill, or accomplishment. Not brave just lazy and wont look for a job.
I'd say 90% those buildings are not suitable for living in. And beond a simple renovation. House in the north dont last long with out heat in the winter. Just a couple years and an abandoned house goes to shit.
@Frank Arrietta Oh yes, I'm talking about all the homeless heading to Nantucket and move into the summer homes. Come on man, I'm talking about abandoned, derelict houses. Let's hear your solution?
There's plenty of mental health care available, at least here in Ca. Most just don't want help. They want to be able to still drink, use drugs and not take their medications.
Homeless don't work and go to where the free money is. They can't live in a small town in mid states and be productive members of society at menial jobs. They rather be homeless in LA than bored in Utah
In my neck of the woods there are resources that could get people integrated back into society. Many people refer to them as " shelters" but they are much more then that. They are staffed with trained ( highly trained) case managers. I have lived it from the inside. So why do seemingly able bodied young men ( and woman) continue to remain homeless? For a significant portion of those folks, the rules and expectations that come with those resources are not something those individuals are willing to comply with. Apparently when these folks compare the resources/expectations/shelter vs. thier " street lifestyle, they are not compelled to change. I witnessed it first hand. I say, as a start and speaking as someone once homeless, do NOT give your money and time haphazardly to a homeless person. If you want to give, give to a centralized and properly managed homeless resource center. The center will have rules and expectations that are in place to set the individual on the most ideal path. The street living needs to become more uncomfortable then the much better alternative, the shelter etc. That is not the challenge and solutions of homelessness summed up in one UA-cam post but it is a portion of the problem. I am very very confident that the behavior I just suggested of all of us would improve a bad situation. And conversations of autonomy aside....homelessness is a bad situation for EVERYONE involved.
Sadly the result of ending panhandling would be an increase in crime and not an increase in shelter attendance. People need money for their addictions, if we don't give it they'll take it, one way or another.
airhab airhab Too late as transients are already breaking into homes. California is being bombarded with the rise of home break ins and when some of them are caught it’s linked to drug addiction as the culprit.
The shelters are lottery and fill up every night here in Austin. It's a simple problem of more homeless than beds. Yes, more funding needed but there are not empty shelters or soup kitchens here. They are full.
@@juliand2709it is a complex problem. What you point out underscores that. Many things to consider. One of those things is prioritizing the resource to the individuals most likely to succeed. What does that mean? Well that is complex and needs much input from well trained and experienced professionals. The resources are limited so there needs to be measurement of success or failure and then appropriate adjustment. In healthcare, in a facility, if there is a fire, you get those most mobile / healthy out the door first. The goal is the most saved possible before the fire consumes. It is complex. Also, drugs are bad, mmm k. Just stating the obvious to no one in particular.
The homeless problem in Austin is nuts. I visit about 4 times a year and it seems like there's more and more homeless in downtown every time I come back
This is a poor question. It's akin to a prosecutor saying to a suspect, "Well if you didn't do it, then who did?" The one has nothing to do with the other.
Cause a portion of them are choosing this lifestyle. If you make it hard on them they will find a better way to live. They don't want to go to a shelter cause they can't drink and party. It's not all homeless, but it is a good portion of what I see locally.
I don't think people see stopping people from camping as the solution, just a part of the overall solution, whatever it may be. The answer definitely isn't to just keep letting them camp everywhere
I lived just outside of Austin back in the eighties and saw what was coming with the tech companies moving in and moved back home. I went through there in the late nineties and couldn’t believe how overcrowded it had become. I’ve never been back. Sure miss the bar-b-que though.
Some people owning massive pieces of lands with forests, rivers etc. are completely powerless if people decide to just camp there. The police in most cases will not intervene if the squatters are not violent and if you take matters into your own hands and kick them out you'll get in trouble with the law. It's becoming a real issue in Ohio.
Why won't someone think of the people who own massive pieces of land lol y'all are like the dudes with the powdered wigs telling people to stop being poor
@@MatthiasVargas owning 100 acres of land in the country is cheaper than a single bedroom starter home in a major city. These people aren't normally rich
In Europe in most cities you'll find some small, regular room in a shared apartment to live for 200 bucks. No need for a program. Rents in the US are insane.
I agree with the loss of family. I lost my father my senior year of high school, and my mother a year and a half later. I was homeless at nineteen and it's not easy getting back on your feet when you literally have nothing.
Thomas Saunders my parents died in a car accident when I was 12. I can relate.
I'm sorry you had to go through so much loss at a young age and I hope you have built a life that is rewarding since then.
This is why life insurance is a HUGE deal when you have a kid. Anyone under 25 needs to get life insurance if they want it to be relatively cheap.
Syn Stilo sadly most people even parents don’t have life insurance.
A Hubert that’s why it’s better to get it in your early 20s so it can be like $20-30 /mo vs waiting till your 30s where it will only guy up exponentially and most can’t afford or just don’t want to pay that much
There's more to affording a house than paying the rent.
Politicians are so incredibly in denial about this.
Very true. In my experience, bad/insufficient credit keeps more people from finding housing than lack of funds. Beyond that, the requirement that you make 3 times your rent is a little extreme (imho), especially in cities where rent is skyrocketing.
Agreed. 3x your income, means that only the very upper and middle class can even begin to afford anything on their own. I literally had to move in with a stranger to afford rent. In a city that was super affordable less than 10 years ago.... this shit is going to catch up with society some day... and with these greedy asses that go on about the market, it sucks. But in reality theres no changing it, we just have to deal with it until it gets too bad, then maybe one of these shitty politicians might do something about it
@@moriallen643 Denver, by chance? That's where I was for years, but can't afford it anymore. The rent on the place in was living increased about 50% in a couple years. See ya. Before that I had a foreclosure so my credit was screwed for years. It's good now but man, I was definitely experiencing "housing insecurity" during those years, basically had to find people willing to rent a room or basement to me AND 2 kitties. I still have regular nightmares about it.
@@annetreacy2437 Charlotte NC. A ton of people moving in from NYC, so the prices have to "adjust" to those people comming in. Its to the point where there are more people from NYC than from Charlotte.. in Charlotte. I've only met a few dozen or so people from Charlotte in my entire life here. Everyone else is a proud New Yorker, so prices hace been skyrocketing my entire life here... and still rising.
Average rent for a studio is now 900-1000. If you want a room or, god forbid 2 rooms, youre looking at 1500 minimum a month
@Mice Elf okay New York in general, the point still remains. It's a much more expensive state than NC. And in my "anecdotal survey" I've only met a handful of people NOT from out of state living in CHARLOTTE, not the areas around Charlotte.
I am born and raised in Charlotte, so I've had thousands of encounters. And in my experience, most people from Charlotte actually end up having to move to Gastonia or Mathews or Harrisburg or wherever, because the city of Charlotte is just too expensive. Myself included.
I live on the boarder of Charlotte (some 20-25 miles away from the city center) , because nowhere else is affordable. And those who are thriving in Charlotte tend to be from new England in general, whether that be Delaware, NY, Philadelphia or the likes. Thus demand is through the roof, and those comming in will often tell me that 1200/mo is cheap, compared to up north. But not if you were used to the prices of Charlotte housing just 10-15 years ago (which were well under 800/mo on average, from my memory )
Having been homeless for two years, I can tell you that from my observation of the community, the number one and two reasons for homelessness is mental illness and drug dependency. Fortunately I escaped that trap, but its pervasive. I've seen organizations set people up in nice apartments, but the people just walk out of them and go back on the streets. Unfortunately a large part of the community can't be helped with just housing.
The issue with that is that tracking down the cause/effect is really hard, is mental illness that causes homelessness or are homeless people often prey to mental illness? Same goes for drug abuse, people self medicate to try to escape their anxieties and overall feeling horrible all the time.
The main driver of homelessness is poverty, people feel hopeless, are in a poverty trap and can't get out of it, then mental illness sets in and you have a self-feeding cycle of crapness nobody can get out by themselves.
@@Koroistro I believe you're right on both counts. But I've seen so many abandoned family members just dropped off like puppies, because the family couldnt cope with their mental illness. Or cope with their drug dependency. I volunteer at a rescue mission, and 80% of our overnights are people like this. Its heartbreaking to see. Some of these are men with dementia and incontinence, and the families dont want them back. So we are the only resourse left. Unfortunately it will always be like this. But good people manage to find a way to help.
This is absolutely true and no one wants to admit it. Giving most of these people free everything will not work. You have to get the addicts sober and that will be so hard. As long as they are in the addict mind frame they will take advantage of every thing you do to help to continue their addiction. Lack of cheap homes is not the problem. That will help only a small handful of the homeless.
@@popdefender460 Cruing people of addiction isn't a trivial task, you have to give them hope in the future (drugs are the "short term relief"), reliable sources of basic necessities, and of resources to become independent are key.
Thank you ! Exactly what I believe in
Loaves and fish, started by a guy in construction. Hmm. Reminds me of a story I heard as a kid
Wow, when did Adam Curry go from rocker MTV VJ to such an uptight old guy who complains about poor people? Sad.
Damn, only 12 people caught that smh
Stay Woke lol
Cmon Jesus
Shout out to Sacramento Loaves and fish! They are #1 in Sac❤
Punching down at the poor!? Did MTVs capitalust Delilah cut off those beautiful blonde curls and cut out his 3rd eye with it!
Texan here. This guy isn't using hyperbole. Austin went to shit very, very fast. Texas has an immigration problem and it isn't coming from the South.
Texas will eventually flip Blue because of the filth from CA moving there over the years. Once Texas flips blue it's fuckin over
It's most because demographic change from 3rd world birth rates.
Nick what’s Blue? & what’s hyperbole? Hyperbole like seatbelt & brake light law?
Those damn californians are worse the the okies! Lol
@@landonic81 LMFAO white people are scared
0:27 when he says it started with the scooters am I the only one who thought of the South Park episode when the scooter just appeared overnight.😂😂😂
Its the SouthPark era my friend
yeah that episode was literally based on a true story. which is why it was so hilarious
@@Hawtload really that's even more funny omg lol
Same with the homeless episode
Yes lol. I immediately went into the comments to see if anyone made the connection. So glad you did.
Austin is my home and seeing Californians transform it in my life time is one of the worst tragedies. The city used to have so much personality and now it's just nu-SanFran.
I'm born and raised in SF and I've seen it change, very similar to how you are explaining it. The people who came in 20 years ago, took it over, changed it to their liking, then moved on to cheaper places like Austin to do it there is a shame. It's Tech, though, not San Francisco or San Franciscans that are to blame. It's like the college town mindset where you go somewhere new for 4 years on mommy/daddy's dime and use it like your playground and move on, with no care for people who call that place home
Austin has lost its soul. Like every awesome place that goes mainstream and gets too big, there is no character left.
Dumb. Most of the people moving to Austin are coming from other parts of Texas.
you really think the housing crisis is caused by california/californians? it's a systemic problem that's been going on for decades.
welcome to gentrification
half the reason people are depressed and anxious today is because of a lack of community
I wouldn’t disagree. I see it in myself.
It’s conversations like this that make me such a huge fan of Joe Rogan’s podcast. We (the public) need to hear these conversations. I’ve personally lived through a catastrophic loss of family & been homeless. It wasn’t easy getting back on my feet. I didn’t realize until I watched this just how to conceptualize what happened. Thank you Joe 🙏
Very curious. How exactly did the loss of family cause you to be homeless?
I’m homeless now, been living out of my car for 8 months. It’s been a struggle but I know I’ll get through it. Moved across the country twice which totally messed me up financially to where I’ve never been late on bills to trying to catch up on my credit card payments. There’s so much more to the story but with rent being outrageously high and all these stipulations, it’s makes it difficult. I make pretty good money but with insurance, 401k, taxes, and other things taken out of my paycheck, makes it difficult which is why I’m looking to find a second job to fit my schedule. So basically, like he said, there’s all different types of homelessness people. It can happen to anyone. But I’m not asking for sympathy or anything, just telling my story. It sucks but I’m doing this all for my Daughter and I hate being away from her. I want her to have a great education and if this means that I’m homeless for a while, so be it. She’s my world!! Yes, it’s not a healthy situation to be in as in in not having a proper place..yet...but it gives me, us, time together on weekends instead of being 2700mi away.
I stumbled across a podcast that claimed they are bigger than JR, and they are. I listened and watched some clips for about 20 minutes and it's just...lame. You get dumber by watching that crap. So yea, JR often has quality, you might not like some guests, but there are plenty that you will like.
@@victorantonio6131 Not sure why something so personal could make you very curious, especially loss of family. There are some things you don't ask strangers about that you simply don't need or deserve to know. Loss of family is one of those things. Please think about that in future before you ask that question as it would be just as far outside the of the social norm or acceptable in person as it would be online and I think you know that. That's not a question you would ask to a stranger in person. Don't do it online either.
Not to say it's not a reason but I worked in homeless services for years and never was (catastrophic) loss of family the main factor in homelessness.
"Catastrophic loss of family". That is deep, and not only in the sense that he used it. That is the practical origin to so many societal ills. Even if you have a family, if it's not serving it's purpose, one can still suffer the effects of a "catastrophic loss of family". A lot of support issues require the motivation of love. No institution is designed to love you. If it does, it's considered another type of...family.
I was raised by my Grandmother. She was my Mom and my Dad. When she passed away, my whole family seemed to scatter to the winds. It was really hard adjusting as a young man. I was never homeless honestly but I drove a razors edge with that forr awhile. I just mention this because I see how it could bring a person to live such a life. Thankfully I decided that was not the life for me, now I have my own place, a decent job, a band as my hobby, about finally get a car... I had to really pull myself up by the boot straps and it was really hard without her guidance. I feel the pain. Destroys me how many people are so lost.
He is wrong. The vast majority of homeless people are addicts and/or mentally ill.
@@andrewreisinger6860 You are an addict, are you homeless?, wait probably still living with mommy and daddy.
Yep!
I had to get away from my family. They were bringing me down.
Joe needs to have the guy who organized that community on the show.
My mother was brain-damaged and paralyzed when I was 3 years old. I was homeless off and on for years.
Now u have a laptop or smartphone with internet!! Yay
@@davidrabbit8868 Ya. A laptop a flat screen TV a smartphone and my own apartment. Thanks.
@@alcam14 glad you are doing well stay positive snd stay active!!! you are one in a million and here for a reason
@@GetBusyDrift Thanks!
There's cruelty in fixing it, there's cruelty in not fixing it.
@I Coroa firing squads.
@@hellman5820 yes, firing squad for the owners of this plantation that we call earth.
@MrWagman11 the hard decisions that you speak of is bringing back the Salem witch trials and sending these devil worshippers into a society like George Orwells 1984.
@MrWagman11 We seriously need to do something like that. Please do it in DC.
@@hellman5820 seem extra cold behind that screen there buddy. All talk. But 100% if i put a gun in your hand, you ain't shootin' a damn thing. Dunno if ya realize it or not, but those are people you talkin bout. If there is a firing squad, lets line people like you up first to be "taken care of."
He is 100% correct about local Austin politicians. I attended the first town hall after the camping ban lift. 4 members of city council and the mayor spoke as well as a professor . Each spoke for about ten minutes, each one said the word “housing” about 15 times and none of them ever mentioned addiction or mental health. They did mention that these people are your neighbors a bunch. These people were not there to solve a problem l, they were there to tell us about their progressive ideas and how they would be implemented
I was homeless for about 6 months. He is absolutely correct when he says it is often times due to cartographic loss of family and the sense of need to be a part of a community. I most definitely found that in the homeless camp I was at. I still have yet to find anything like that. Regardless of the race, age, gender, mental state, or issue anyone may have had... COMMUNITY. FAMILY REALLY! We cared for one another. We didn’t discriminate or demoralize each other. We worked together and even held weekly meetings. I honestly miss so much about that. Now, don’t get me wrong, it’s by no means easy. I am fortunate to have gotten on my feet again. Had it not been for the support, love , and respect I received there, I may have just given up on life all together! I am beyond grateful for the experience! It was humbling. It was a necessary part of my growth! Love really IS the answer!💚✌🏼🙏
This dude complaining about skooters reminds me of the Southpark episode lol
Imagine if Bloomberg invested in this small hike community instead of spending 600 million on TV ads
Yea it seems like a waste of money but idk what the future holds
Or if amazon payed taxes.
@@mvpdjwcc6844 , Amazon employees 10s of thousands of people and they pay taxes. Dont use Amazon if you disagree with their position in business.
It's his fucking money you envious fuck.. he can spend it however he wants. We dont bother you spending money on weed right... maybe give that 20 dollars to the next junkie.
Carmine DAuria-Gupta and how would you suggest he invest in the homeless?
It’s an incredibly complicated problem!
I lived in Austin for quite some time, and I see it's kind of like this. Austin used to be a great city. Then all of a sudden the technology companies started moving in, along with the yuppies. The city, and surrounding areas started building more, and the cost of living started going up. So basically, Austin has become just like any other city. It has grown so much, and the cost of living has become unaffordable; which helps create more of a homeless problem.
atrain132 - It isn’t a cost of living issue. It’s the acceptance of letting people live on the streets. Case in point, Seattle has a huge “homeless” issue, yet right next to Seattle is Bellevue that does not have an issue. Bellevue is more expensive housing than Seattle so it should have more of a problem based on your statement. Bellevue doesn’t tolerate it, that is why there isn’t a problem there.
@@montestu5502 yeah lol, I didn't say that's the only factor to it all. There are more like drug / alcohol addictions, ect. Your also comparing a small town with a population of about 150k, versus major cities with populations of 2-3 million. A hell of a lot easier to control.
@@montestu5502 Oh wow Bellevue pushes them out and makes them someone else's problem. What a great solution!
@@montestu5502 So what they go over to Seattle then? Really fixed the problem for Washington didn't they? I am 100% for having the Mental Institution infrastructure Carter created we had before Reagan closed them all down.
www.nytimes.com/1984/10/30/science/how-release-of-mental-patients-began.html
www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/04/timeline-mental-health-america/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_Health_Systems_Act_of_1980
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4364434/
sites.psu.edu/psy533wheeler/2017/02/08/u01-ronald-reagan-and-the-federal-deinstitutionalization-of-mentally-ill-patients/comment-page-1/
"The Mental Health Systems Act of 1980 (MHSA) was United States legislation signed by President Jimmy Carter which provided grants to community mental health centers. In 1981 President Ronald Reagan and the U.S. Congress repealed most of the law."
"President John F. Kennedy signs the Community Mental Health Act to provide federal funding for the construction of community-based preventive care and treatment facilities. Between the Vietnam War and an economic crisis, the program was never adequately funded."
"Under President Ronald Reagan, the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act repeals Carter’s community health legislation and establishes block grants for the states, ending the federal government’s role in providing services to the mentally ill. Federal mental-health spending decreases by 30 percent."
Seems pretty obvious to me. We cut Federal Mental Health services in 1981. One Generation later in the year 2000 we all ready have beginnings of massive homeless and drug addiction problems. In 2020 its full blown. And we aren't even saving money because instead of Mental Institutes we are jailing people at a higher rate then ever.
You should see what happened to Seattle. It went from being the prettiest city in America to a fucking dump. Its criminal.
Here in mesquite tx, it's literally illegal to be homeless.
In my country, there are so many laws that make homelessness illegal. Once that happens you are unable to prove your identity with enough points of ID and therefore unable to hold a bank account, unable to be legally employed, and unable to rent a property, etc. It is a legal spiral... that spirals out of control.
@Indra Guillory Australia. There are a lot of laws that require holding an address so that fines can be posted to you. Those laws are circular and stop you from being able to re-enter society. For example, rental lease laws require proof of identity, and proof of identity requires a residential address history. Same for holding a bank account, a drivers license, a medicare card, and the ability to qualify for welfare payments. We also have loitering laws that make it illegal to be anywhere in public without enough money on your person and residential and camping laws that make sleeping outside illegal.
@@orioleaszme3415 damn that sucks
I'm no fan of anarchism, but I'd take anarchy over tyranny any day.
(Whole country of homeless people start homesteading and stop being homeless, same country surprised when homesteading ends and the homeless come back.)
Skid Row looks like an 80's Detroit dystopian movie. You almost expect to see RoboCop
If only
Soon these streets will be clean.
@@azteacher26 A rain is gonna come....
Nuke is a tough drug to quit.
This guy is a fucking idiot... Number one cause of homelessness he says is loss of family! You could lose your family all you want if you're totally Rich you won't be homeless! has nothing to do with family it's 100% financial and this Rich piece of shit acts like he knows better than everyone else!!!
I’m in San Diego. Homelessness not only exploded in the last 5 years it mushroomed cloud.
Andrew Stevens more like shit on the side walk dirty bomb 😂
It's a nightmare in LA. There are random tents in bushes. Freeway overpasses have entire communities living under them. The crazy thing is people act like its not even a thing. People are buying expensive condos in downtown LA while being a couple of blocks over from entire homeless settlements. It's mind boggling.
@Alan Jensen we've been a "me" society for quite a while now. I'm old enough to remember the 1980's (maybe you are too). We were very much a "me" society then. And homelessness in LA was not nearly has bad then.
@@bluewave3417 And the population has increased by ~106 million since 1980 whereas the number of employees has increased by ~68 million. Hmmmm.
Y’all tried so hard with “Don’t Dallas My Austin” that you turned it into San Francisco instead.
>_
And now San Antonio is headed in that direction
😆
So they succeeded in their goal. And you characterize that as "try hard"...
Jett Slappy It’s more that the city has been so against expanding infrastructure to meet a growing population (while still bringing Silicon Valley business in) that they ended up making cost of living insane for locals.
Austin tried for years not to be a big, sprawling city, so now it’s crowded, full of homeless camps, and too expensive for the people who made Austin so special in the first place.
Like he said catastrophic loss of family. When my mother passed 7 years ago the group of friends I had offered whatever help I needed at the time. I tried to stand alone and face my own issues without having to lean on anyone. Within 6 months I noticed those that offered had started pulling away stating that I had changed. That statement didn't miss any mark. The experience changed me. Fortunately I am not homeless but I also am not far from it. The thing we need to understand a teach our youth is that no matter what you believe there is no normal. And politicians don't resolve issues they create them. As far as my view on homeless if they are there by choice fuckem the rest that were forced into the situation need help. I myself try to talk to those I meet and if they fit my definition I will give whatever I can. The rest get told what's up.
I slept out of my car for years while working fulltime for iHeartRadio...tough in LA
What were you doing for them?
Jacking off in the parking lot is not work
For all those commenting on Adam's blinking: he has tourette's syndrome. It doesnt always manifest as verbal tic.
I hope he doesn’t give it to joe
@@daddybadbad lmfao
Nicholas Black still gonna make fun of him, I happen to have Down syndrome
Does that make him talk over people too?
Lol yall are morons.
I live in San Diego and the scooters originated here in California. They were EVERYWHERE. On peoples lawns, all over the streets and corners. Our city eventually mandated a law that designated areas for them to be placed. It’s not so bad anymore.
lol yeah south park did a bit about this exact problem
I went to California for the first time in my life last year and well I dont really see the change you're talking about. Maybe it was worse before but when I went to visit there was a scooter on the ground maybe every 3 or 4 blocks apart and in the way. Sometimes I would see like 5 scooters thrown in front of someones store or lawn lol. I Live in New York so the only thing I ever see is CITI Bank bikes you can rent at designated areas.
@R0cK GoD Youre on the internet champ.
I went to SD for the first last summer and saw an insane amount of scooters. So if that’s not so bad anymore, I’d love to see how it was before😂 every time I saw one I’d yell to my girl “I’m a BIRD motherfucker I’m a BIRD!!” Because they’re all Bird scooters
Same problem here in Phoenix.
It’s sad that at 23 years old, after finishing high school, going to college for 2 years, working from the time I was 17 and with a partner to support me- I’ve been faced with homelessness on multiple occasions. Had it not been for family members (provinces away) who were willing to take me in, or for the 80 year old couple that said ‘we started with nothing and someone gave us a chance’, or for the fact that I was born musically talented and could busk for money everyday on the sidewalk- if it weren’t for these things I would have been homeless a long time ago.
Find a guy with money. You’re cute. They are everywhere.
@@mineralt unfortunately they all have children to pay child support for so that moneys only on paper 😂
No one seems willing to accept that young people today have it rough compared to Boomers and older Gen. Xers. Stagnant wages, taxes, and declining purchasing power of the dollar are not doing us any favors. These ships have sailed, though. I try to do what I can and enjoy what I can. Hopefully your situation improves as well.
@@bertrathkin4298 I almost forgot the 12 thousand dollars of student loan debt, and the 8 thousand dollars of CERB that I will more then likely have to pay back. On a higher note, I have successfully managed to live alone (barely) and know I am capable of getting work due to my past experiences. So I dont have to live in fear of being completely screwed if my partner jumped ship, because at the least I know i'm capable. That doesnt exactly mean that my attitude and actions in real life will exhibit those capabilities in the event of a break up or death (depression isnt a great motivator obviously) and thats half the reason things go down hill. We arent as willing, capable, motivated, or efficient when faced with the worst and thats exactly when we need to be those things in order to stop the landslide.
Depression is tough to cope with and shaking it off is an uphill battle. cehelsky@hush.com if you want someone to talk to.
You had some brave and enlightened souls that wrote your constitution. While it is a document written by mortals, it is what will carry your democracy. Great chat, positive.
"Everybody needs community." This is absolute.
not me
@@fanoboss loner boners are the best
@@timazbill7746 if you use the term "loner boner" you are not the best
@@harmondraws No u
@Maitland Austin idiot
I live in a medium-sized city 45 minutes north of Austin and we have a huge homeless problem as well. In my job I interact with them very frequently, and anecdotally, most of them want to live the way they do. There are definitely homeless who have mental illness and haven’t been able to receive appropriate help, but those are not the majority. I talk to them and most tell me they like living as a vagrant with nothing tying them down. They network with each other to see which cities are the best to camp out in as far as enforcement of laws, ordinances and codes by the municipalities and gravitate to the lax ones. It’s taught me to not automatically feel sorry for every homeless person I see because they’re not all just down on their luck - a lot of times they’re actively choosing it as a lifestyle.
Rogan hit the nail on the head when he said mental illness is in high part to blame. I work with this demographic eavy day and based on what i see, severe mental illness is to blame in at least 50 percent of homeless cases.
So very true ive lost 4 family members in the past 2 nd s half years and ive duffered immensely have become homeless and lost everything... its not easy im glad you touched on this topic. Were not all drug abusers or alcoholics.. thanks
Everyone told me Austin was great but when I went the homeless problem was out of control.
It used to be great...now its Lefty Democrat fucked up ruined..douchebags.
@@uniform1313 it's not a "Lefty Democrat" issue. It's a human issue. And if you haven't noticed, it's happening in red states just as much blue ones.
If it were the Dems' fault, why the fuck hasn't Donald tried to fix it? He has barely mentioned it, let alone tried to improve the situation!
@@uniform1313 yes most city's are both of better education quality and more left than rural present societies at the same time
Uniform13 there’s homelessness everywhere dumb fuck, but yes blame it of the Democrats, you uneducated fuck
@@aiwash2766 You have no idea about the laws passed by the cancerous Democrat progressives that make it 10x worse...YOU are the uneducated moron.
The 500 million Bloomberg spent on his failed campaign would of cleared several blocks of tents
A bulldozer could do the same thing.
How? And for how long? Throwing money at systemic problems never solves the problems.
@@Tufarock I agree. Money can solve the issue but blindly throwing money at it without a real long term plan is a recipe for disaster.
They tried giving lumps of cash to homeless. They blew it instantly on a drug and fuck-fest.
Mini mike spent all that money for nothin, who would have guessed it?! 😂
Joe was today years old when he learned a standard 50cc scooter does 50 mph. He likes muscle cars. Never turned a wrench outside of News Radio.
They're referring to electric scooters ya fuckin boomer
This guy is a fucking idiot... Number one cause of homelessness he says is loss of family! You could lose your family all you want if you're totally Rich you won't be homeless! has nothing to do with family it's 100% financial and this Rich piece of shit acts like he knows better than everyone else!!!
All you people who have a hard time stay strong, stay together. Every life ends, the hardness of life cant beat the fact that every life ends. The afterlife is unending, please consider this multiple times a day.
Do you have any evidence of this afterlife? Thanks.
@@Ididntaskforahandleyoutube We will live a second time after death. Like we were created in the womb and God gave us a soul, we will again be resurrected (and held accountable) after death. You see, there is a world which we can see and have formulas for and predictions, and we can not deny a world we can not see... Nobody understands sleep, nobody knows where our soul is located and how it is located. Nobody understands why and how biology works. Sure, there are some fragments which we understand, but we never reach the level to create life. I don't know where you are coming from but I will keep it at this.
California: we’re the richest state! We pay the most in taxes and without us the us would fall!
Also California: we need more federal money to clean up the homeless people’s shit!
You know what’s funny? California, alone as a state, has the 5th hugest GDP in the world! But yet, it’s a shit hole.
Well CA is dealing with homeless people from all over the country, and city specific solutions haven’t helped at all. I think the Fed gov does need to step in and offer help, we need to work together.
@@wifine1951 Money stolen is money easily spent.
@@wifine1951 I'd say Frisco and LA are shit hole's but I guess people also forget how big California is. Just so you know not all of Cali has a homeless problem just the big nasty city's.
@@wifine1951 also one of the few states that puts in more money in taxes than it takes out. I dont hear conservatives whining about handouts when they're taking em from californias economic prosperity
Wow! Haven't seen Adam Curry since the 80s-90s? With the impeccable rock star hair and the pretty-boy face - I thought he faded away into mimbo Hollywood (male bimbo) when the MTV checks ran dry, but he has surely surprised me. He seems to be a bright man with a mountain of compassion - the rarest emotion in L.A., especially for the homeless. The world needs more people like Adam Curry, with fresh ideas that work for everyone - most of all the people with very little to help themselves and living on the edge of society in a place we won't live but don't want them living there either (just go jump in the river so we don't have to help you or be reminded daily of your plight). God bless Adam Curry!
Joe “His is Juicy” Rogan
Adam “Blinky” Curry
Is it possible for someone making minimum wage to afford a legal apartment with utilities etc.? If not, then how are they supposed to live if they aren't allowed to camp?
When I was in my 20's I had a minimum wage job at a factory. That $3.25/hour allowed me to rent an apartment, pay utilities, get food, have a car; all of it and I had a little left over each month. Now the minimum wage is more than twice as high as when I made that wage yet there is no place where a person can even afford the rattiest apartment not to mention food, utlities etc.
Paying a livable wage as the minimum wage would mostly eliminate homelessness. Instead we see them as the problem and basically just want them to go away and die. Our governments make it illegal to sleep in cars, or on benches or in alley ways, yet offer no alternatives. Its not their fault that the only wage they can get won't pay them enough to afford a home. Its the banks who created lots of inflation, its the government for printing money to pay for wars it didn't need to get into. Its also because of increasingly complex regulations which make housing twice as expensive but only a small fraction of a percent safer. Inflation will make most of us homeless in the end if our wages don't keep pace with that inflation. I think that instead of blaming the victims of our predatory economy, maybe we should fix it by either allowing for lower cost housing or rasing the minimum wage to a level high enough to allow a person to live in this world of ever rising prices.
Great explanation of the homeless problem. Family/economic/mental health issues with no support from the community and negativive connotations.
@Gonz Wouldgo the family, economic, mental health issues tend to preceded the drugs. Drugs are mainly an attempt to ease deep emotional pain.
Jake Hawkins is wise enough to know that it is not always drugs...
@@RYSEAmato notv evry one who does drugs is doing them because of some deeper issue. I did drugs because i liked feeling better. Even if u alrady feel good, drugs make it better.
@@sgtshard8280 sure, but why the need to feel better? If already whole, content, fulfilled drugs are far less likely to become addictive to the point of life ruining.
@@RYSEAmato have you ever done drugs? People since the dawn of time like to get high. And addiction can be a problem but it isn't just a specific reason that u get that way. You cant lay a blanket statement about someones intentions when it cones to that.
Homeless guy broke into our mailbox a few years back so we called the sheriff. First thing the deputy told us was “It’s not against the law to be homeless” and basically shrugged his shoulders. Said they knew the guy who was stealing mail, he had been arrested multiple times and placed into shelters, but most shelters don’t allow drug addicts so this guy always ended up back on the streets to repeat the whole process again and again.
Going through someone's mailbox is a federal crime. Cop should have done something about it, what the hell. You should complain to your post office. They have their own little police, they'll come looking!
Manic Hispanic Local police in urban areas have bigger issues to deal with than a little mail theft. Just how it goes today. We have a more secure mailbox now.
Last time I was in Hollywood, Florida we had to walk down the roads because the sidewalks were packed with the homeless. Some bars had gone out of business because patrons didn't want to brave the streets they were on. The vast majority of homeless people just minded their business as we did with ours. What scares people are the hustlers who come out with a bullshit story to plead for a few bucks, they stand a little too close and you can see the hunger in their eyes as if they'll jump on you to get what they want. It's just a horrible situation with no end in sight.
I was homeless for multiple years, this dude has no idea what the hell he is talking about. You what the main issue was, what allowed me to not by homeless? Having a home! I know it is mundane to alot of people, but having shelter and no worries of losing it is a huge boost towards a productive and quality life.
The plan is simple: give scooters to the homeless
Landin Lewis
They steal them, jailbreak them, and then resell them for a profit. It’s a cottage industry in some cities.
Have you seen the documentary of the homeless guys who race shopping carts.
Ethan king
Have you ever seen the documentary about a wild evening with a couple fun gals and a cup?
@@ethanking4954 Yeah, what city was that? They race down that huge hill
I've been saying that for years. Why shouldn't they be beboppin around as the homeful do?
It’s great when someone comes up with something
Joe Rogan
Socrates eat your heart out right.
Why are you hating?
"Affordable housing is bullshit. What we need is tiny homes with really low rent.". um.
Yeah right wingers aren't the sharpest tools.
yea it's definitely not the 200$ rent, its the ComMuniTy
TheRiiiight you should see left wingers.
@@TheRiiiight "right winger" here ..
Housing with all the necessary accommodations wouldn't be a thing, yet cheap small living spaces with minimum accommodations would perhaps work.
The biggest issue is the people's issues .. personal and mental
Did you listen to him? Tiny homes with real buy in creates ownership and community. Projects create neither of those things. Nobody gives a shit about a government built project and people quickly destroy it. Paying a small amount and owning your little shack is still ownership and fosters a sense of pride which translates to a lot of people living together with pride. Are you daft?
We have the same camping and scooter problem here in Albuquerque, NM
Hi. NYC resident here for 38 years and counting. There hasn’t been a squegee guy here in decades. They were rampant in the 90s I remember. They are gone
Dude! They're back. Not rampant (yet) as before but back. I've seen two squeegee guys in the past few months in NYC. I say, as long as they don't badger anyone or get violent, no big deal.
which NYC mayor was it that sent the busloads of homeless to California? Giuliani? weird this isn't mentioned when talking about the crisis...
Lisa Barri 2 isn’t a lot of anything tho. I understand what you’re trying to say but they’re not back at all. Giuliani and Bloomberg brought down the hammer
@@PowerUsr1 Dude! I'm telling you I've seen a few. I'm not giving you a theoretical opinion! So are you saying I'm lying, or you don't get first hand knowledge?
@@bikesqump
Not Guilliani. DE BLASIO! 2019! UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE! GROSS! DESPICABLE!
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Terrible name for this segment. The legal 'loophole' doesn't explain the problem at all.
Sudden loss of family... legal solution, build a community.
It makes it seem like the vagrants are the problem, which is bullshit. They are a symptom of the problem, not the cause of it.
@ambidextrousfapper A broken money hungry capitalist focused society that believes that it's not only OK, but expected that they dislike "the poors" regardless of how they got in that situation -- Honestly if you can't figure out what 'the problem' is that causes homelessness on a global scale then idk how you're still drawing breath without someone explaining how to do it.
@@CriticoolHit If you're so simple to think capitalism causes homelessness, you haven't read a fuckin book. Capitalism is not close to perfect. But to pretend that socialism or any other idiot strategy of 'affordable housing' (read: all the places with those programs have the most homeless population per capita) is a fanciful delusion. The problem is more complicated than that. And solutions have costs. Just because you aren't aware of what those costs are doesn't change the reality.
5:28 ...THANK YOU for bringing this bit of reality to light!
I'm homeless now and it's been a year now. It all started after my grandmother died she raised me. I have a daughter that's 8 and I have only been able to see her a few times in the last year and Its so hard because I know being stuck carless and homeless is affecting her so much its really really hard
Doing all the work I can find and yes I keep a phone so I can talk to my daughter
I live in a small town been doing yards with a old guy I know but I got called about a job this morning washing dishes two days a week
Been volunteering at the Springs Mission in Colorado springs for a couple years.
The homeless population is made up of mentally challenged, PTSD veterans, addicts, lazy and unlucky.
In equal parts.
there is no one solution, but 40 years of supply side is coming home to roost.
Mostly people just complain or vilify.
Why not help just a little?
100% truth. Thank you for volunteering 🙏
Thanks for your servitude Larry. I respect you.
One of the major factors also include increasing housing prices. Housing prices not keeping up with wages.
This dude ain’t seen no one go 50 on a scooter bro lol
I’ve seen people riding them that fast in Hawaii. It’s possible.
😂🤣😂🤣
He definitely didn’t see that shit lol
George Barnes III gas powered scooters? most definitely, before electric scooters came to my area a few years ago those and dirt bikes were all the rage
Ive seen crazy fast scooters!!!! In Texas, as long as you get a license plate, you can fly down city streets. I saw people with fancy custom built scooters when i visited San Antonio 2 years ago.
lol Austin is turning into Downtown LA. Have fun guys!
Self inflicted
"Omg the scooters" lolololol
Mental health, drug abuse, abuse during their youth, catastrophic loss of families, sense of meaninglessness. These are all the aspects you need to fix if you want to see a change in homeless culture. One aspect changing will not fix the problem sadly and that’s from multiple first hand experiences.
Not really because those problems exist even in the non homeless. The main reason is rent and home prices are too high for poor people in CA WA NY however in poor states theres all those societal problems you mentioned but not nearly the homeless population because poor people have access to homes they can afford to rent or buy.
airhab airhab Do you work at homeless shelters? You ever had friends that are homeless? I’m just wondering because you are definitely talking out your ass. While it does affect normal people it’s the mix of all of those that lead people to the streets.
Finally someone without the openness of a cardboard box
@@airhabairhab It's hard to get somebody who thinks life is meaningless, to get a job and pay rent regardless of cost. Cheaper housing would certainly help for some of them but not alot. Shame and a lack of self worth, no matter the cause of it, will make it so many wont even try to fix their lives. No single idea or program would work for everyone. You would have to do the hard work of seeing them as individuals and work with them to fix their individual problems. Too costly and time consuming for any level of government to take part in unfortunately. It wouldn't be a good return on investment even though they are human beings. This role is much better suited to a nonprofit who are not stewards of tax payer dollars and are not trying to make money, just a positive difference in peoples lives.
money printing and debt have jacked asset prices beyond affordable. Combine that with globalization and outsourcing good jobs. why are the results shocking?
Wutzis well we’re about to see a decline in that arent we with the “covid19 system reset”
@@moonahmed7834 the fed just printed more money than ever before and lots of pople cant pay rent and dont have work, so nah not rly.. we fucked tbh
huge impact of this in ~2014
Exactly, so much money has been printed that today you need $800K to buy a house that was $40K in 1965. Unfortunately, salaries haven't increased as quickly.
Max Taylor printing the money was fine, the problem is they gave it to corporations instead of the workers who keep the country going.......
Ive lived in a place like this in Seattle. It really was an awesome place. Helped me get on my feet
This guy is right on with the loss of family aspect. So many people down on their luck like that have been estranged from family, probably because of addiction, but that doesn't remove the need for some kind of community.
Hey you guys need to have dr drew on to talk about the homeless situation in LA and Cali. He will drop knowledge.
"Out here the shift was about four or five years ago..."
Hmmmm.... prop 47 and 57 ring a bell.
"Dr"
@Matt Houser well having proper medication would be a huge step in the right direction, then you'd also need a good support system around them to ensure they don't harm themselves or others and are actually taking their medication. I'm saying this from experience working with differently abled adults
It started with Regan getting rid of the state funded mental hospitals. Just medication isn't good enough. They need nurses, doctors and daily support meetings, just like in the old state funded mental hospitals. They would be even more effective now that we have an even better understanding of mental health.
Here's the knowledge...
90% of the folks on the street, are there because of addiction. Plain and simple. I WAS THERE, in Portland. Lived it. I was strung out on heroin and meth for 7 years, less then a year after starting I had NOTHING. I slept anywhere I could. DUMPSTERS, RECYCLERS, PORTA POTTIES... Tent city... All of it. 7 years. And I can say with total confidence the homeless crisis is Directly related to addiction and the mental illnesses associated with it.
I am proud to say I've been clean over 2 years. Have a job. And getting better. It's really unbelievable.
"Affordable housing" isn't always affordable. They still base rent on a percentage of the average local rent and median wages. It should be based on what a single minimum wage earner can afford. If rent is supposed to be 25% of your wages, the rent should be the equivalent of a week's wages at a minimum wage job.
It is...and they're called "roommates". There, problem solved...and you're welcome.
@@hillbilly4895 Good idea! Let some random move into your home with you and your family. 👏👏👏You must be one of those people who thinks the poors don't deserve to have kids either. 🙄
@@user-xd6nc6rg7b "Poors" have kids? When did this happen? Anyway, "minimum" wage implies "minimum" everything else: Options, luxuries and yes, privacy. (see: roommates above) But this is not the same as "zero" wage which implies zero all the above. This is probably why minimum and zero are different words. But hey, I'll just let you solve this pervasive social problem. Go gettem sport! You got this...I believe in you.
Minimum wage jobs = minimum skills. Minimum wage jobs are for kids just getting into the work force (part time after school job) they are not supposed to be a career. If you want a minimum wage job your whole life you need to raise the bar.
@@chrismarch6644 why dont you do some research on what minimum wage is ACTUALLY supposed to be instead of talking from your ass. images.app.goo.gl/izyrec4LnSDiYt9z6
I was hard hit with the reality of how important a sense of community was when my boyfriend and I moved to Vancouver in Canada and lived there for a year. I fell deeply depressed being away from my old place of work. Because there, everybody knew my name. And not just that, they knew me and I could be me and was respected and loved, not to mention hilarious. But in the new canadian place of work, they didn't know me, obviously, and when I tried to be me, I was looked at as odd and not funny. My community was gone and I felt it. Also, the sun was gone and I felt the heck outa that too. When I came back to Georgia, it was like a title wave of dopamine overcame me and lasted for many months.
The problem with affordable housing is that 1 person can’t pay for a house you need like 2-4 people depending on where you live.
@@MrTeetec same effect/ smaller circumstance
If one person can't pay for it, then it's not affordable housing, dumbass.
Finally joe has a good guest on this week
I understand people go through rough times but my parents came to this country barely speak any English and had literally $10 in their pocket and my mom was pregnant with my older brother and they are very well off now. And I can name hundreds of more stories exactly like that one so it’s not just a one off.
I'm living in my car for 2 years now going on 3. By choice. I have managed to save thousands a year and in 5 or 6 years I'll have enough to buy some land and build my own house. Rent is a waste of money. You pay extra for the convenience and in the long run you lose out on a bunch of money. Don't judge all homeless but people like me aren't easy to spot. We are clean and move around constantly. We have jobs and look normal. There are many tiers of unhoused. I tend to think I'm God tier because in the long-run I'll be able to retire sooner and better then most just because I sacrifice creature comforts when I'm young.
Can you keep that up for 5 or 6 years though
Me too I work and am homeless. I don't pay over 500 month so I be outside alot
@@brandonbaran1197 no problem tourist areas you can't live in car but city's no problem
You make this sound Easy?? Really?
I love you
Scooters: the modern day scapegoat for everything.
yeah bro. just like with anything new, old people cant get with the times and then pretend it's new things fault
It takes 50 years to be able to check for bikes before turning according to him
Or, a sign that your city is overrun with Liberals.
Екатерина Геннадиевна cool point.
scooters are perfectly fine, and even great. Scooter riders however, are one notch above tape worm
"There's a lot of people with mental illness who have houses."
There're also a lot of people who have suffered "catastrophic loss of family" who have houses. It's likely a combination of these two and/or other factors.
Would be nice to have the numbers, if they exist.
I wouldn't read to much into the idea that most people who are homeless are mentally ill. The definition of a mental illness is defined based off of the ability of people to live their lives in a functional manner. If you're homeless there's a high likelihood you meet that definition not just because your "inability to function," but also because a large measure of how we define people's ability to function in life is whether or not they're homeless.
This is a separate (but I'd argue related) issue, but our mental health system has a huge problem with being objective and avoiding circular logic.
It's probably exist in homeless shelters but it's not that accurate. It will be great also have a data of the vets, unemployment and life choices of homelessness.
The catastrophic loss of family is typically when the bread winner dies, disowns, or cut offs a dependent. That is the number 1 cause of homelessness.
Yea I noticed he was driving hard at the notion that the #1 reason people are homeless is because if that and my first thought was I'd have to see the numbers. Mental illness and drug abuse seem to be at the top of the homeless list. If you figure out those two the vast majority of homelessness would be solved.
diypictures catastrophic loss of family is what typically leads to mental illness and drug use. Things like deaths in the family, divorce, etc. Did you know children of divorce whose parents talk negatively about each other in front of them are far more detrimentally impacted than children who are sexually abused? So if you really root cause anything, it all leads back to that. The dude it right.
Adam “all these people are moving to Austin, but I’m originally from Virginia” Curry
People from Austin don’t care if you move here as long as your not from California
He's Dutch actually
Congrats on Spotify. keep A Jones on as a regular if u move to TX please Joe. big fan from KY here!
I miss the Austin of the late 90s
2020 watching a stoner podcast for nuance thoughts concerning the social issues of our time and presidential debate for mindless entertainment
oh no.... not a STONER podcast!??😱😱
Really? You were expecting nuanced thoughts? From these two? Well ... you got the mindless entertainment part right, it's just not true for this particular episode.
Nuance like "stop being homeless", got it.
Anthony got it 100%. Unreal man
The presidential debate is no debate. Just pre-scripted lines read of a teleprompter saying "im for all the good things and they are for all the bad things".
I live in Austin and my neighbor in the house across the street is "homeless" under 183 & Burnet
He lives under the house? Like people under the stairs.
I live literally right there behind an on the corner and have 0 ideas what this means. I think you mean they're are homeless located there. Along with every other intersection in ATX. But yea lotsa homeless fer sherrrr.
Z Teezy i mean one of the "homeless" there is completely faking it....at the end of the day, they come back to the house across the street from me on 183/Anderson mill
ATA 2012 ohhhh gotcha. Yeah unfortunately that’s like 70% of the homeless people. They are homeless they just collect Social Security and get a couple extra hundred a week. The sad thing is when they start getting pimped out not for sex but for times on the corners just to give almost 90% of their wage to some random person that they don’t know taking advantage of their disabilities mentally. That is where it gets crazy and very dark. But to your boy this is easily or I should say this area is easily top five worst in Austin so you wanna star there you gonna see it. Next time you go up north check out the freaking Woodstock reunion that is Howard Lane. And I love Woodstock I just wasn’t alive so
blast the fucker away with your 300. Winchester...I mean it is Texas amirite?....
jk
It is getting very out of control in Phoenix now too. 3 empty lots I drive past to and from work have filled up with tents over the last month or so.
There's this lack. When I lived in LA, I worked at different libraries (for my degree) but I primarily worked worked out of Pasadena-Central Public Library. They had free movies every week on Wednesday afternoon that I ran for the hearing impaired but so many homeless people with serious mental illnesses came in weekly. There were regulars to the library which would read or use the computers or whatever all day long there. And part of my training was to never get yourself into a corner because libraries ARE full of hidden spaces. Some of the homeless told us that they traveled up from skid row daily. That lady had a serious situation with her schizophrenia... she talked to herself about the people watching her.
This makes me feel like crap because I'm realizing how used to the problem I've gotten to the point where I don't even notice it anymore. I live in LA, Santa Monica to be specific, and homelessness is beyond out of control here in LA and as Joe said, it started being a "thing" a few years back. I recently went to Austin and saw some homelessness, but I wasn't really paying attention, so I'm sure it's as bad as it's being described. Going to have to move to Montana or somewhere to get away from it.
In San Diego. I never seen homeless people on the scooters because it takes having a phone and debit card atleast to use
You can buy one for ~$300, that's what? 2-3 days of "give me a dollar I am homeless" ?
@@Ludak021 why would you waste that money on a scooter? I'm sure they have other priorities like dealing with life ....
Randy Ozaeta like using drugs.
@@kekboy5127 dealing with life, when society turns it's back on humans how do you expect them to deal with it ? Also no one mention the pharmacuticals companies that pushed fentanyl on the American public causing alot of this problem the 2008 crashes which had record homes repoed (how many lost faith in the system thanks to 2008?) It's seems most people think we live in bubble that are isolated from each other with no tie into how society is invested into.... We don't live in bubbles we live in a society just like the cronavirus shows we are all interconnected
@@randyozaeta1026 like drugs? I mean, food is what? $15 a day if you are homeless eating at mcdonalds ? Less than $15 provided they don't throw away food and overeat?!
Besides, it was hypothetical, but still. Why pay $$ per day to ride a scouter when you can buy one for $300? It's the same Xiaomi scooter...
True, a lot of homeless do choose to be on the street, but people seem to forget about the LARGE group of folks who are living in the rooms at the back of motels. They are stuck because they usually don't qualify for the types of aid that the homeless do, but they have no way to save and move into an actual home. Yes it's a roof, but its also a trap that is damn near impossible to get out of.
I used to have this 49 cc moped that would do 70 with no governor
That sounds dangerous.
No mention of fentanyl? I live in SF, the homeless explosion coincided with the arrival of fentanyl. We'd been told it was coming for a little while, then all the sudden it was here, and what a change.
Fentanyl and the precursors for meth come from China They were trying to elimnate heroin and coke so they could take over the global drug trade the trouble started when drug dealers were not familiar with the tiny doses required.Many overdoses resulted.China is at war with the west and we better deal with it.
@@johndelong5574 I wonder. Its my understanding that most of the fentanyl is smuggled in by Mexican cartels. Who get the supplies from Mexico, but sounds like that's changing. But man, I live at ground zero for fentanyl / opiate addicts, in Soma in Sam Francisco. We were all told fentanyl was coming, and when it arrived it was a serious shitshow. And the way everyone keeps politicizing it definitely isn't helping.
JOE ROGAN NEEDS TO DO A INTERVIEW WITH THE GUY WHO STARTED THE HOMELESS CAMP AND SHOW IT WORKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE.... PLEASE
You're definitely on to something there... Maybe just keep the volume down, no need to yell 😂
Fuck* homeless people, nothing but a nuisance and a drain on service programs
@@the-potato-warrior ok edge lord
King Mucho prove me wrong. I’ve seen countless video interviews where they say they prefer to be homeless.
Fuck them. Nothing but a tax burden
The- potato-warrior yes it’s true for some! Drew Barrymore whose wealthy tried to help her dad bought him a house and shit and he kept going back to the streets he wanted to stay homeless. Like you have a rich daughter trying to help you and you rather be homeless?!!
10:00 on the dot. I see you sneaky Joe😑
I was homeless in NYC and LA. In nyc I slept in time square and the R, F, and Q trains. In LA there is a building with offices and motel rooms with some locks missing on the doors
Omg you're so brave...🙄
Terrance Richardson if you think that’s brave you’ve gotta raise your standards, you realize being homeless In cites is like forgetting your tent but not sleeping bag in a clear summer day you just deal with it lol
@@mrbanyuwangistorytime633 notice my eyes rolling emoji, its sarcasm. Being homeless isn't a goal, skill, or accomplishment. Not brave just lazy and wont look for a job.
We got this guy hoping in the comments saying"i was homeless too"
On both coasts..... how are you traveling these distances, homeless man...???
Terrance Richardson I traveled with a plane, the same way I did when I went to Bali, Hong Kong, West Palm Beach, and Boise
They estimate there's 18 million vacant houses in America. There's no shortage of shelter, just shortage of mental health care.
I'd say 90% those buildings are not suitable for living in. And beond a simple renovation. House in the north dont last long with out heat in the winter. Just a couple years and an abandoned house goes to shit.
BigMug Bob AND PEOPLE BEING PAID LIVEABLE WAGES
@Frank Arrietta Oh yes, I'm talking about all the homeless heading to Nantucket and move into the summer homes. Come on man, I'm talking about abandoned, derelict houses. Let's hear your solution?
There's plenty of mental health care available, at least here in Ca. Most just don't want help. They want to be able to still drink, use drugs and not take their medications.
Homeless don't work and go to where the free money is. They can't live in a small town in mid states and be productive members of society at menial jobs. They rather be homeless in LA than bored in Utah
Joe "his is juicy" Rogan
🤣🤣🤣
When I heard him say it I knew this comment was coming hahaha
The quote comments aren't funny.
@@GreenGearMood I respectfully disagree.
@@AH-yu2pi I respectfully agree with you disagreeing with him
I live right next too community first village. Amazing place
Rogan talks about Austin - before moving to Austin. What a world
In my neck of the woods there are resources that could get people integrated back into society. Many people refer to them as " shelters" but they are much more then that. They are staffed with trained ( highly trained) case managers. I have lived it from the inside.
So why do seemingly able bodied young men ( and woman) continue to remain homeless? For a significant portion of those folks, the rules and expectations that come with those resources are not something those individuals are willing to comply with. Apparently when these folks compare the resources/expectations/shelter vs. thier " street lifestyle, they are not compelled to change. I witnessed it first hand.
I say, as a start and speaking as someone once homeless, do NOT give your money and time haphazardly to a homeless person. If you want to give, give to a centralized and properly managed homeless resource center. The center will have rules and expectations that are in place to set the individual on the most ideal path. The street living needs to become more uncomfortable then the much better alternative, the shelter etc.
That is not the challenge and solutions of homelessness summed up in one UA-cam post but it is a portion of the problem. I am very very confident that the behavior I just suggested of all of us would improve a bad situation. And conversations of autonomy aside....homelessness is a bad situation for EVERYONE involved.
Sadly the result of ending panhandling would be an increase in crime and not an increase in shelter attendance.
People need money for their addictions, if we don't give it they'll take it, one way or another.
There is money to be made in the "business "of poverty.
Just not for the poor.
airhab airhab Too late as transients are already breaking into homes. California is being bombarded with the rise of home break ins and when some of them are caught it’s linked to drug addiction as the culprit.
The shelters are lottery and fill up every night here in Austin. It's a simple problem of more homeless than beds. Yes, more funding needed but there are not empty shelters or soup kitchens here. They are full.
@@juliand2709it is a complex problem. What you point out underscores that. Many things to consider. One of those things is prioritizing the resource to the individuals most likely to succeed. What does that mean? Well that is complex and needs much input from well trained and experienced professionals. The resources are limited so there needs to be measurement of success or failure and then appropriate adjustment.
In healthcare, in a facility, if there is a fire, you get those most mobile / healthy out the door first. The goal is the most saved possible before the fire consumes.
It is complex.
Also, drugs are bad, mmm k. Just stating the obvious to no one in particular.
The homeless problem in Austin is nuts. I visit about 4 times a year and it seems like there's more and more homeless in downtown every time I come back
Austin reminds me of the midtown area in Houston on the corner of Hadley & Fannin. Can’t do anything about it will only get worse
2:17 care about the city? people don't care for each other.
So can anyone explain to me how stopping people from camping on the streets will somehow make those people no longer homeless?
Đick Butt
It makes the city less shitty.
it forces the city government to make actual decisions that work to improve the quality of life for the homeless
This is a poor question. It's akin to a prosecutor saying to a suspect, "Well if you didn't do it, then who did?" The one has nothing to do with the other.
Cause a portion of them are choosing this lifestyle. If you make it hard on them they will find a better way to live. They don't want to go to a shelter cause they can't drink and party. It's not all homeless, but it is a good portion of what I see locally.
I don't think people see stopping people from camping as the solution, just a part of the overall solution, whatever it may be. The answer definitely isn't to just keep letting them camp everywhere
His blinking is f’ing with me lol
He's got mild tourettes. The body ticks are weird, but some of his outbursts on his own show are downright hilarious.
Damn it! I knew you guys would bring up Idaho. I was wondering how what Idaho passed affected the rest of the country
I lived just outside of Austin back in the eighties and saw what was coming with the tech companies moving in and moved back home. I went through there in the late nineties and couldn’t believe how overcrowded it had become. I’ve never been back. Sure miss the bar-b-que though.
Some people owning massive pieces of lands with forests, rivers etc. are completely powerless if people decide to just camp there. The police in most cases will not intervene if the squatters are not violent and if you take matters into your own hands and kick them out you'll get in trouble with the law. It's becoming a real issue in Ohio.
Now that's about as ass backwards as it gets.
Why won't someone think of the people who own massive pieces of land lol y'all are like the dudes with the powdered wigs telling people to stop being poor
Good, people shouldnt be able to own massive amounts of land and rivers etc. Property rights arent rights.
@@MatthiasVargas owning 100 acres of land in the country is cheaper than a single bedroom starter home in a major city. These people aren't normally rich
There are plenty of plausible deniability ways to rid people of your property, just be somewhere where there is a witness and get it done.
I actually volunteered there with my job during the christmas season. & it was pretty cool. 🤞🏿🖤
In Europe in most cities you'll find some small, regular room in a shared apartment to live for 200 bucks. No need for a program. Rents in the US are insane.
OMG I remember the squeegeeing guys outside the Lincoln Tunnel!