Can You Softlock Luigi's Mansion with Boos?
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- Опубліковано 3 гру 2022
- Is there a way to softlock Luigi's Mansion with Boos? I received an interesting email one night with a perplexing question in it about Luigi's Mansion... And so the hunt began.
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Normally when I think of getting stuck in Luigi's Mansion I think of people getting pushed out of bounds by Chauncey's treasure chest. But this was really interesting to put to the test!
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Awesome video
What if you swapped the rooms in luigis mansion? Like, chaunceys room becomes something else.
Would it still be beatable?
Luigi’s eternal dalmation
I heard about another softlock involving Vincent Van Gore, where if you DON'T immediately collect his key after beating him, but instead, find the Boo in the room and chase it into the hallway, when you return to the room, they key is despawned.
Yep I’ve had that happen to me a few times. It isn’t a softlock though because you can make the key reload by exiting the area.
@@somemaskedguy9445 From what I recall simply saving the game and restarting it was enough to get the key to respawn in Van Gore's room as well, but that came with the caveat of making the room never be lit up. So if you hadn't caught the boo in it pre-reload then it would remain unobtainable.
You just gotta leave the area and come back in or even just walk over to the chest painting and sometimes it'll pop back out
You can actually get it to glitch out sometimes and spawn multiple keys
This was fun to watch! Glad to see my theory lit a spark in your curiosity as well. Sad that the myth was a bust but still was interesting to think about! This video gave me a smile, thanks for checking it out!
You are in the video, a real star.
It’s the person in the video
Yeah it's you omg
I think there is a way to still do it…
I know it’s been a while, but I do remember getting a boo to go through the nursery into the twin’s room. Not sure how I did it…
@@elderliddle2733 hmm
Mario was trying to jumpscare me in the email 😂
Oh that was Mario
When you take Mario's spaghetti
haha I had to slow it down and pause it a few times to figure out what it was supposed to be
I knew it was him the moment I saw the overall flash on the emails; there was just enough of his red shirt to tell.
I thought I was falling asleep
I used to fear as a child, that if you let the Boos go through walls into other rooms to often, they'd dissappear forever. Wasn't there one case where one specific Boo could in fact get lost if you're unlucky, making 100% runs impossible in that case? I think something with the Attic? Probably I'm misremembering something?
I can't help but wonder though, can the Boos escape to the Twin room once it has been unlocked? (Of course, that wouldn't help the softlock idea, but still interesting to me)
Boos can't ever actually get stuck in another room, give it enough time and the boo will eventually respawn in the original room.
It's possible what you're thinking of in the attic is in relation to the Vincent Van Gore key glitch. The one where if you leave the room, without getting the key, the key will disappear. Saving the game and restarting it will cause the key to respawn, but the room will remain dark rendering that last boo unobtainable if you didn't catch him before the restart.
@@Robbie_Haruna Ah! So that was what I was thinking of! Thanks!
And I think that stuck prevention mechanic is exactly what made me think they would be gone in the first place lol. I had chased one into a room, couldn't find him in the objects, left the room, returned back later and the room was blue on the radar. I concluded the Boo has left the game haha...
Although this is something that is highly doubtful that any casual player would be able to accidentally accomplish, you *can* softlock by getting multiple Boos in one room. If you have 4, then suck up the 5th and 6th at the same, the dialog about going to wash up never triggers as it only shows up after collecting the 5th Boo and talking to E. Gadd, and cause we never trigger that event, the washroom remains locked forever. Believe me, speedrunners tried. Technically if you decided to ignore Chauncey's key and go out of bounds, you can still clip into the washroom to get the key from the toilet, though that's the only way around it that we know of right now, so if you have that key, your adventure is as good as done.
This actually makes sense, because in my experience I would always try to capture each Boo in its respective room. But the Twins' Room was one of the few rooms that I always struggled with, because the Boo in there, Booris, has 100 hp. Boos that have this much hp can be a bear to suck up in one shot. And the reason why you had to suck up Booris in one shot is because, once he leaves the Twins' Room, he never goes back in. I never knew why before, so it always irritated me. But now that I've seen this video, it makes perfect sense. The developers clearly put it in themselves to make some walls passable for Boos and others not so no softlock of this sort ends up happening. As such, the walls separating the Twins' Room from the Nursery and the hallway are passable one way for Boos, but never passable the other way, and apparently the devs didn't see it necessary to revert this for Booris. Therefore, a challenge to get all the Boos in their respective room is, as much as it might not sound like one, a real one.
Note: if you're going for this challenge, Booris is not the only problem Boo like this. Kung Boo from the Mirror Room is another one, though he's only got 40 hp, so he's easier to clear in one shot. And another one is Boonita from the Guest Room. To my recollection, I think I might have succeeded this challenge before, but I never kept track in a log, just my memory. If you guys want to make this challenge extra-real, though, try going without saves and see what happens. Anytime you save and exit the game, as Swanky hints at but never explicitly says, any uncaptured Boos will return to their respective rooms, with whatever amount of hp leftover on them from previous attempts. Have fun on floor three and the basement! And good luck!
I still remember a boo leaving the mansion in a playthrough. In the armory, in the attic, the boo left through the left wall, which if you know the map, there is no room there. I traveled to all the different rooms trying to find it, but it was completely gone.
That being said, it happened when I was young, and I can't remember what happened after that. Idk if I found it in a room I hadn't entered yet, or if reseting the game worked, or if I was locked out of 100%. I cannot remember for the life of me
there's a softlock that can occur in the bogmire battle if you vacuum multiple shadows at a time at a certain position or while taking damage that will cause the bubbling effect to persist in the middle of the arena. this bubbling effect being stuck there disallows luigi from using shadows to attack bogmire, thusly soft locking the game. i can't remember the exact things that happened, but i experienced this in a playthrough i recently did without saving that scuffed my run.
This is a little unrelated but rarely, the boos will linger in the border between rooms, the void, and when it happens they cause Luigi to vacuum towards the wall almost aggressively until the R button is released or Luigi gets too far away. The boo won't move out either way and stays in the void. There was one time it stayed for a solid five minutes out of reach. So theoretically, if the boos linger like that and don't transition, it could potentially softlock the boo hunt portion after getting the Boo Radar. The problem is that it's inconsistent and after a few minutes they just force themselves into either room and hide. This seems to happen in rooms bordering halls since it happened to me in the Safari Room, Parlor, and the Telephone Room. The tricky part is that if the boos are in a different place, they eventually return to their original room either after loading different areas over elapsed time or by resetting the game. They each seem to have specific paths that they will strictly follow, so breaking their waypoints is tricky. But if they didn't warp or reset, getting them stuck in the void could potentially make them inaccessible, and if Luigi stays against the wall to vacuum the boo he might even clip through into the void. It's certainly an idea at the very least.
Well although it turns out that this soft lock doesn’t work it was still a fun video to watch, thanks for making amazing content Swanky!
I have a thing with accidentally discovering glitches in games. I remember during one of my playthroughs of Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga when getting the purple chuckcola fruit and when I went on the lifts, Luigi fell off the lifts but it functioned like he was still on it. However, Luigi remained on the floor while I progressed. After I finished the lift section, Luigi ran up to Mario and he fell off. I'm not sure how this glitch occurred but I managed to record it on my 2DS. I want to know what happened and I was playing this on my GBA SP.
Love a good SwankyBox video especially a Luigi’s Mansion one
Ah, a new swanky vid on a nice evening
Fascinating. I wonder if there’s any legitimate way to soft lock the game.
And that's why overrunning my mansion with ghosts in order to break reality will always be one of my Pixel Portals.
Sorry for the wait, been on vacation.
Reminds me of when I first got a gamecube too and didn't have a memory card, luckily Luigi's Mansion is short enough and I was able to beat it without dying XD
i wonder, for experimentation sake, could you check the behavior of the Boo in the twins' room on another safe file? another thing to try is trying one of the early Boos once you do have access to the twins' room to see if they can access it at all.
i bring this up because i wonder if maybe the walls in the twins' room are one-way for Boos to prevent this exact softlock, or if they are just inactive during this first part of the game?
great video as always!
You can chase a boo from the anteroom to the area 3 hallway where you wouldnt be able to get to yet. The wall on rhe right of the anteroom leads to the hall with the Astral hall
One of the best things about SwankyBox is that he can take on a challenge and have it fall through, but still make a great video made completely out of the pure logic behind the experience. You don’t have to win spectacularly to make some great content, and that means that you’re honest about what happens and accepted for it. It’s pretty remarkable to me.
Tank a drink every time Swanky says booze.
just don't drink any boos
Neat little easter eggs in the video! Very enjoyable! And I always love to see more Luigi's Mansion (1) content!
I love the Luigi’s mansion videos, keep up the good videos swankyBox
We can relate to not having a memory card and having turn the tv on all day so that we don’t lose anything
I don’t think Nintendo is dumb enough to make such an obvious soft lock.
Don't be too sure of that, look at all the glitches found in BOTW & TOTK, preeety sure they coulda messed up somewhere
@@zxuiji Yeah tbh sometimes I give devs more credit than they probably deserve lol. Luigis mansion is a launch title so it possibly was rushed too.
Awesome upload ! Thank you 🙏❤️👻
"I learned a lot about boos in the process"
Swanky I hope you know how that can sound if heard out of context...
😅 i can see Waluigi in the hallway painting great addition to luigi's mansion 👌
Lol that seems like a mod to the files not a video edit 😂
@@Adam-jm5un ok? I was just pointing out i can see him in a painting nothing too crazy. no need to point out the obvious just takes the fun out of it
@@DeathsTyrant I agree it’s fun, I was just surprised when it wasn’t an edit (like other things in the video)
Whats with the frame perfect creepy pasta
always nice to see swanky cover this game in anyway
Great video! Very interesting. Because you can make a documentary-type of video, hack, and experiment with this those video's are really interesting!
Guy eating watermelon
I do know about one glitch where if you're doing the twins and you accidentally suck one up in a particular spot in the room the other twin will vanish and you'll be unable to get the painting in the 3ds game
You make really good videos
Very cool investigation!
We're about to find out!
Time for another fun video!
Very good video! ^^
I actually genuinely didn't realize that Boos have attack animations. I never gave them the chance to hit me.
there is actually a way to change the routes certain boos take as in making a boo go from chauncey's room to twins room
how so?
@@mr.werb15md90 well the boos have certain rooms they are told to go into and you can change or add rooms for them to go into i've done this in one of my luigi's mansion mods
Splain it to me lucy
@@pumkin610 you can just change it with a tool it's pretty simple
@@memeproductions5638 Well with mods, anything is possible. The point of this video was to softlock without altering the game through mods or cheating.
Please never stop using cinematic shots in your videos. They make my brain do the big happy
I remember a run I had where a boo from the nursery went into the twins room and I couldn’t follow yet but I think it’s just like super rare. And without going to decode the game files and check the routing I will never know. I might just be misremembering.
Cool video; at the very least it seems very hard to soft lock this part of the game, so thats good.
5:52 I had one point in the 3DS remake where a Boo went into the other hallway which was gated off until Area 3 was open (Which I obviously did not record) and when that occurred he would not go back into Area 1 until some time passed or I reset the game. So Nintendo seems to know about how easy it is to soft lock the Gamecube version and patched out ANY possible soft lock method for the 3DS remaster.
Funny that people give so little credit to the designers for not thinking of this situation when introducing this as a gameplay requirement to continue. This happened once in my gameplay too, I just came back later to find the Boo back in the correspondent room.
At 1:06, did anyone notice teaposing Mario flashing on the screen? Anyway, great video
teaposing? is mario british now?
@@dooplon5083 it’s Mario if spiffing Brit took over Nintendo
@@netherwarrior6113 if he was in charge we'd have cookie clicker on switch the next day
It's was at 1:10 and 1:12
Softlock videos are cool I wanna see more
Interesting. I’ve played Luigi’s Mansion and I’ve personally never knew about this potential softlock.
Mario in his T pose flashing when swankybox was reading the email. Jeez I thought it was an issue with yt until I slowed the video down and actually saw what it was
I don’t know if it’s because I own the 3ds version, but when I went into the room with vases (I can’t remember the name) the boo left and went to the other part of floor 2
I was remembering this one glitch back in the day were the key from Van Gore disappeared when I played as a kid. I couldn't get to King Boo and I didn't have a memory card.
So about the boos with the Twins' Room, I'm wondering if maybe it's something to do with how the game checks what area you're in and the developers forgot to update the flag for that one since it's in the area 1 hallway? There are checks for that if you glitch out of bounds in the Nursery. For example, if you do that glitch and go on to beat Bogmire early, the door in the Foyer will not open, softlocking you in area 1. Even if you go back and grab the key from Chauncey, it still will not let you in, as the game registers that Bogmire was defeated and thinks you're in area 3. I'm wondering if there's any other area specific checks and if it would be possible to trick the game into thinking you're in a later area? Boolossus also has a check where the ice elemental ghosts will not spawn if you don't have the ice medallion, making it impossible to defeat him. This is odd since there's no possible way you would ever see this unless you used glitches or cheats.
8:51 when you go to your first college party
More OG Luigi's Mansion vids!
Seems like with how the game keeps track of Boos, it's precise enough to remember rooms, boo name, etc. From this we know Boos have their own ID of sorts. My theory on why the boos refuse to go to the Twins Room, is possibly the difference in Area? Noting the first attempt with the ballroom and the dining room, both are included within the same 'area', so despite the locked door, the boo will still go in, since the act matches. The other one however, despite the twins room being in the same hallway as the other Area 1 doors, the Twins room is treated as a Area (I want to say, 3?), So the boos will resist going into those rooms, since the areas mismatch. Wonder if it's possible to do this challenge, but let's think more down the road. Boolossous also has a similar "You need # Boos to advance forward!". Wonder if it's possible to achieve a similar softlock, but at this point? I may do some personal experimentation to see if anything comes into fruition. Awesome video as always Swanky, take care!
One main killer of this being a true softlock, is that boos that are not caught, reset to their proper rooms after a save&quit. They do not stay in the room they were in prior to the quitting of the game. Also one thing of interest is that I attempted to experiment with the balcony on the second floor, the one with the toad. Either due to the nature of the balcony being un-named, or because of the presence of Toad, Boos do not go into this area. I'm going to try to attempt to get a boo into the washroom to see if Toad has anything to do with Boos. Also noted is that if you leave a room while a Boo is active in it, it will still move around and even escape to other rooms with Luigi not being there. I'll continue commenting the more I discover
Another thing I just thought of. Locked rooms aren't the only thing that can prevent us from catching Boos. Unlit rooms do this as well. Rooms have to be cleared in order for the Boo Radar to work. Possible way of trapping boos is the Fortune Teller room, since you need 5 of Mario's items to clear the room, and you don't get some of Mario's things until Area 3. Though this proves useless to the first challenge, it may be something of interest to the Boolossous one, I'm gonna rest for tonight, but I'll continue this thread of theories, tests, and discoveries
Area Theory Tweaked: Just had a Boo (Booregard) from Biff Atlas' room (Area 3) enter into the Conservatory (Area 2), so they can go between Areas, but most likely ones you've already completed. I'm curious to glitch OoB on a fresh save and go directly to Biffs room, just to see if the boo chooses to go anywhere at all
Alright, interesting discovery: I did as I stated, started a new game with an OoB cheat, and immediately went to Storage Room (Where the boos are held). I then went to Biffs and beat him to be able to get the boo. The Boo Radar worked, and I was able to spawn the Boo, but after it's dialogue, it immediately despawned and went back to hiding. Really strange, I'll upload a video clip on my channel showing what this was soon.
More discoveries: I tested the 'disappearing' boo thing again, but found inconsistencies between Areas. The Boo in Atlas's Rec Room was able to be spawned in when I was at Area 2 in progression (Just freshly beat Chauncey). This shouldn't work, since Biff is an Area 3 Area. I tested this again with Nana (Since she doesn't require any elements to beat), and her Boo did the same as before, spawns in then immediately disappears. Maybe some Boos have a special tag, and they can cover more than one area? Maybe Biffs Boo, since they're so close to Area 2, decided to put it as allowed to access Area 2 AND Area 3 so it can actually escape. Nana's boo, on the other hand, has no other Area differences around her, so the boo might be set to just Area 3, so since I'm at Area 2 Progress, hers doesn't stick around and immediately goes back into hiding. Very very weird!
I've had a strange occurrence happen before the last time I played Luigi's Mansion on Gamecube. So normally when you collect all the boos the player is awarded the "Golden Diamond" for 100% em, but the playthrough I did had a weird thing happen. Basically one of the boo's on the 2nd floor (I can't remember which one it is in granny's room) would jump between area 1 and area 3 (since they're on the same floor).. but when it got away and went through a wall in the back in Granny's room it just became "unfindable". I went back and forth, up and down and couldn't find it at all until i reset the game.
Has anyone else had this happen before? It's like it went somewhere that didn't exist.
this makes me want to know how many max boos you can have in a room, even just theoretically
I love these dumb deep dives into very specific things
When I was younger I lost a boo in the mansion. I checked literally every room, including the secret and hidden room. And the boo radar never went off. I just couldn't ever catch the last one.
Day one fan, reply back would be amazing! Love everything you do dude
HANDSOME Swanky 🥵🥵😍😍😍
I think there’s a ghost in the new Mario plus rabbids game
Up until this moment I had never heard anyone say "foy-ur"
T pose Mario appears at 1:07
How did you freefly move the camera in super Mario 64 ds?
You can soft lock doing a glitch I discovered which causes the player to touch king boos crowns hit box ultimately ending the final fight but it doesn’t load credits thus making the file un finishable
Could you cover the ghosts of LM3? I’d love to hear how you think they died!
What about king boo and boolosus since you also need a specific amount of boos for those
King Boo would not be able to work because by area 4 you will have access to every room without a Boo restriction. Boolosus has more potential but there are 24 boos up to Area 3's boss and not enough Area 4 locked rooms to chase any into. The 1st floor would have every room open and the 2nd floor would only have the Sitting Room and Guest Room closed off. Boos can not pass between floors and can not go into the Hidden room on the 2nd floor and its most likely not possible to chase 5 boos on the 2nd floor into the Guest Room
The only time I got soft locked is when I caught a boo in Sue Pea’s room and somehow when I caught it, I got pushed behind a chair and got stuck. Me, also not having a memory card, had to start over
Haha I love how noone's parents ever bought a memory card.
i remember that when I was little, the anteroom boo went into the hallway.
A few Years ago i lost my 8th NG+ Run of the Mirror Mansion because a Key i got after a Bossfight despawned when i had to go out of the Room because of a Boo...
Bankyswox
BonkySwax
The funny thing is there's an infinitely easier softlock that can be caused by boos.
When my parents bought me Luigi's Mansion we didn't even have a Gamecube...
This actually happened to me!!
5:04 Bootha?! BOOTHA?!?!
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Hey Swanky what boo(s) do you think I'm missing. Whenever I complete Luigi's mansion I'm always missing 1 boo and I check every room in the game even the secret ones but the boo counter says 1 is still missing is there a boo only accessable during the blackout like that one ghost or is king boo counted. The blackout I kinda chicken out of it, (not actually scared) for some reason like I just head to turn the power on instead of checking the entire mansion (maybe I felt like it wasn't worth going through again)
Have you found the hidden room, I forgot what it's name is? The one with all the gold in it? There's a Boo in there that I missed originally.
I actually had the same issue as you as a kid. I only had a wii, so I didn't know GameCubes used memory cards. I got luigis mansion and I had to leave my wii on when I stopped playing. I was hoping i could leave my wii on long enough for the memory card we ordered to get there so I could save. And I actually did encounter a softlock via a glitch. I got to the bogmire fight, and I sucked up one of his shadows. It got stuck mid animation from when it changes from the shadow to the black ball. All of the other shadows disappeared and so did bogmire. So I was stuck there with this floating transparent black ball with a particle effect applied to it. I tried for hours to get something to happen. I tried EVERYTHING to get the ball unstuck. I couldn't suck up bogmire, so I was stuck in his battle arena. Nothing worked and I had to reset the game, and I lost all my progress. I've never had this happen since. I've also never head of this happening to anyone else.
I see that waluigi picture in the hallway.
Also there is a soft lock that is kinda precise.
I can’t really explain it but search the video: son of a glitch Luigi’s mansion
You can never know. I once got softlocked in my bedroom cause of the good old boos.
1:09 mario jumpscare 💀
1:09 mario jumpscare
Yea of course you can you just gotta pour the booze on the device you’re playing on
I noticed multiple t-posing luigis Disappearing and appearing During The Time The Email is on screen
1:09 Hello Tario
Don't even get me started on getting soft locked on Luigi's Mansion.
I played Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon. I was playing the Scarescraper on Endless mode to get a high score. There was a locked door and I was trying to find a key. The key was in the room I was in, but I revealed every furniture with my Dark-Light and investigated them, but there was no key, so I lost through pure bull shit.
"I learned quite a lot about booze in the process."
@@chrislecount4801 I was making a joke.
@@AwkwardSegway95 Ah.
Yes.
Someone needs to look into the code to see if this is actually impossible, or just very improbable
Please make a video. Why do the coins in the laundry room bucket and secret altar fall out of bounds when spawned?
2:37 weird.
Why is Waluigi on the wall at 3:06 @SwankyBox ?
If you mess up in an attempt to mess up so badly you're screwed, did you do good?
I misread the title at first and was very confused.
Omg what if nintendo made a first person luigi's mansion game???👻😱
1:09
mar jump scare
If you play the 3ds version if you save and quit the boos reset!
7:37 Was that the walk through walls cheat? I saw you just casually waltz into the table lmao.
What were the flickering T posing Mario’s for in the email?
Spookyness
You can softlock this section if you do e gadd text skip on the 5th boo.
This is probably a silly question and is most likely a no. But is it possible to softlock yourself in later parts of the game? There's 2 instances in the game where you're stopped by a Boo and King Boo if you haven't gotten a certain amount of them yet.