I’d say the way that the functionality derailed towards the end, including the lack of dual compatibility on certain actions (correct me if I’m wrong, but it looked like a lot of the final floor portrait ghosts didn’t require using both Luigi’s to accomplish a task) sort of implies where the multiplayer eventually had to be scrapped during the development. Either due to lack of time or the inability to resolve these problems during testing.
to Be honest I think one of the main reason's it got scrapped at a certain point was well think about it for a second if Mario is trapped who else would have went to the mansion with Luigi? yeah you could say some different colored Toad or something or Daisy but we all know Nintendo would have never done that so yeah to be honest that to me is the biggest reason that is my opinion though
In order from best to least best but still great, the top five GameCube essentials are: Metroid Prime 2 Echoes, Metroid Prime, TLoZ Twilight Princess, TLoZ Wind Waker and Luigi's Mansion and, yep, Luigi's Mansion is on that list, so this checks out! Edit: However, Prime and Prime 2 are 500% better on the Wii.
player 2 can actually enter doors fast you need to be lined up with the doorknob in the front and the seam between the door frame and the door you can go through quickly the side is harder and almost impossible to get through the door by winging it. Hope this helped - TRM of the luigis mansion speedrunning community
A quote from Dark Moon Co-Supervisor Yoshihito Ikebata: "Actually, multiplayer was investigated with the first one, but due to various reasons, it wasn't materialized"
@@morgankasper5227 No. At least, I don't think it is. I haven't watched/read any of the JoJo stuff. The joke I was making was that Jarvis is a ghost, therefore, he's dead.
At my work we have the Luigi’s Mansion arcade game. It’s a full immersive black box you sit in and use actual real poltergusts. It even has feedback you feel in your hands and you get a first person perspective inside the mansion. It even has 2 player mode. No modding needed. It’s incredibly fun having grown up with Mario and even thoroughly completing Luigi’s Mansion 3. If you ever get the chance you HAVE to play it. It’s a completely new experience
"...due to this mode being unfinished..." Modders. You know what to do. Seriously, this needs to exist. It looks and sounds fun. I'd watch a Swanky co-op video of two Luigis going around doing things like a proper co-op game.
@@LMFinish Say someone started the project tomorrow like a legit dedicated modder working on this. I can see this being a project that's going to be finished in late 2021 If anything I can see it taking a year to finish and get everything right maybe quicker if they worked on it everyday.
@@LMFinishHuh. Guess that’s why Luigi’s Mansion doesn’t have an SM64 Star Road style hack either (I actually found one once, but couldn’t get it to work).
ShadowDragonGamer 476 Specifically, each ‘green Mario’ heretic will be placed in stasis, have their body’s full supply of hemoglobin replaced with sulfhemoglobin, rendering their blood green and functionless. They will then have a couple of seconds to reflect on their mistake.
The door glitch can be solved by adding the Unlock All Doors action replay code. Just gotta be careful to do things in exact order otherwise the game breaks (boos will despawn after being found). Also, when P2 is low on heath, exit the game and reload as player 1 only and get health. Save and Reload the game again with 2 players and P2’s health is restored!
This entire discovery has been so exciting! I know modding for GameCube games is still in it's infancy, but considering that fantastic multiplayer modes that have been modded from scratch into Games like Mario 64 & Sunshine, it's really exciting to see what modders will do with this since they already have a pretty strong frame to build on top of!
13:51 Bonus points for using the Smithy final boss music from Super Mario RPG Legend of the 7 Stars on the SNES! That is SUCH and underrated game. With KILLER music too! Sad it never got a real sequel
i love this its so fascinating to find out that this could have easily been a co op game at some point in development. thanks for this fun and cool video!
Two player for such a game would've been a big feat in that time tbh. So not surprised it wasn't finished. The fact they at least tried implementing it shows the lengths the devs went to into making the game.
Hey swanky I just wanted to let you know I absolutely love all the content you create and thumb up everything you create. You deserve so much more for the effort you put in! Keep it man! :)
Hey swanky, I think I know why the second Luigi can't open doors very well. Since the objects in the room unload, the door doesn't work properly if player one leaves due to being partially unloaded. This is why it works fine if player 2 enters first and then player one follows, as the objects are still loaded.
I am still amazed that so much of the multiplayer in Luigi's Mansion 3DS Remake was already there in the very first game. Similar goes for LM3, especially the "two player vacuum". So gud we have peebs like u documenting it. :3
Shouldn't the 2nd Luigi be the unused upscaled Mario character that was found in the files? Granted, it would be weird when he can still call for Mario, but maybe the actual game where you can hear Mario calling back from the well would've been used for a call/response thing?
Seems like there needs to be a little extra programming in addition to giving P2 his gear so it's assigned to the total count, but this reinforces the idea that they were probably intending to have Mario as the second character so each player would see how much they collected/etc. but for the training room and total cash acquired it would probably be tallied separately then compiled into a total.
Some of the issues with room loading and the other issues is likely why it was removed, but it's rather sad since it looks like it would've been a lot of fun.
There should be a mod that makes multiplayer work perfectly in this game! I know the 3DS remake has multiplayer but it would be really cool to see it in the original
If you were able to use hacks to force-equip the poltergust onto the second luigi, couldn't you have just set his health or location to whatever you needed instead of needing to have him constantly play it safe?
Unlike the flag for the Equipment on/off state, which is global (affects all loaded player objects), using health codes we already have doesn't affect P2. Although it's no impossible task to make a code for that at all, so maybe we'll have that in no time. I'll try digging his health in RAM soon.
Nintendo makes Luigi look like some kind of scaredy cat and pokes fun at it but literally any sane person in the world would be scared if they had to rely on a vacuum to defeat ghosts inside of a creepy haunted mansion. The dude needs more props.
So you found a way to make the 3DS remake play on the original. That's the power of doing what you want kids! Now Luigi can face his fears with the help of the mythical "Twowegiee!"
2P mode in this game = Luigi loses by doing absolutely everything
This is why he does nothing
he was always meant to do nothing
@@flanfrfx its a meme
wow that one feels old
LOL, didn't expect to see you here.
*"We basically ripped the baby in half..."*
Ah, yes. Of course.
Whatever you do,, don't take that out of context.
😂😂
Ah yes enslaved baby
NAW! NAT DA BABY
Ah, yes. Of course we killed it
17:29 i like it how both the luigis ran for the exit of the room together, i dont know why but it was really funny for me
This and in the very last scene where he flickers with the flashlight while luigi crying of laughter had it for me
Luigi one: uh oh, the BooLice are here
Luigi two: let’s-a-skedaddle before they get here
Gooigi: *am i a joke to you?*
Me;Yes you are
Edit:OMG thanks for the likes
Me:don't worry! we're just doing this in the first game,not the third! ;)
What about the different colored Luigi”s in Dark moon
@@unitedsocialiststatesofame624 we don't talk about those
Wasn't gooigi in the ds version?
Before E. Gadd created Gooigi, he created a clone of Luigi: Two-igi
I don't know why, but my brain just went 'Heh, it's Tweegee'.
Mew clone: Mewtwo
Luigi clone: Luigitwo
hehehe nice one
Unfortunately, Two-igi is very unstable and was sadly killed and his remains were recycled for something else.
@@wantedbird55srandomchannel28 Pretty morbid
Luigi 2 is such an underrated mario character.
But he's probably more likely to be added to smash than Waluigi is.
Super Mario Galaxy anyone?
But we already have Luigi in smash
@@Jarryy yeh, we need luigi 2 now
Luigi's Echo Fighter
Luigi 2. Is the same, but does absolutely nothing
Blue cap Luigi is the most underrated character in the Mario series.
I’d say the way that the functionality derailed towards the end, including the lack of dual compatibility on certain actions (correct me if I’m wrong, but it looked like a lot of the final floor portrait ghosts didn’t require using both Luigi’s to accomplish a task) sort of implies where the multiplayer eventually had to be scrapped during the development. Either due to lack of time or the inability to resolve these problems during testing.
Totally agree
to Be honest I think one of the main reason's it got scrapped at a certain point was well think about it for a second if Mario is trapped who else would have went to the mansion with Luigi? yeah you could say some different colored Toad or something or Daisy but we all know Nintendo would have never done that so yeah to be honest that to me is the biggest reason that is my opinion though
So he’s a Cluigi.
Gooigi: (anger)
Cloigi
@@TestPlayer5 wahwigi: * confusion *
gooigi
Twoigi
This was definitely one of the top games of the GameCube.
Soul Alpha hell yeah. Sunshine, Mario party 4/6, and this one are some of my favorite games of all time actually
This, Sunshine, and Eternal Darkness are my essentials on the GameCube 😊
Such a goddamn classic. Luigi was the superior Italian plumber during the GameCube generation.
Luigis mansion and sunshine are my fav
In order from best to least best but still great, the top five GameCube essentials are: Metroid Prime 2 Echoes, Metroid Prime, TLoZ Twilight Princess, TLoZ Wind Waker and Luigi's Mansion and, yep, Luigi's Mansion is on that list, so this checks out!
Edit: However, Prime and Prime 2 are 500% better on the Wii.
player 2 can actually enter doors fast you need to be lined up with the doorknob in the front and the seam between the door frame and the door you can go through quickly the side is harder and almost impossible to get through the door by winging it. Hope this helped
- TRM of the luigis mansion speedrunning community
A quote from Dark Moon Co-Supervisor Yoshihito Ikebata: "Actually, multiplayer was investigated with the first one, but due to various reasons, it wasn't materialized"
And now we know the various reasons
The reasons: DOOR
15:05 "I'm not sure what caused Jarvis to still be alive,"
I've got some bad news for you, buddy...
I got the joke
I don't get it...
Is This A Jojo Refrence?
@@morgankasper5227 No. At least, I don't think it is. I haven't watched/read any of the JoJo stuff. The joke I was making was that Jarvis is a ghost, therefore, he's dead.
At my work we have the Luigi’s Mansion arcade game. It’s a full immersive black box you sit in and use actual real poltergusts. It even has feedback you feel in your hands and you get a first person perspective inside the mansion. It even has 2 player mode. No modding needed. It’s incredibly fun having grown up with Mario and even thoroughly completing Luigi’s Mansion 3. If you ever get the chance you HAVE to play it. It’s a completely new experience
OHHH, SO HERE'S WHERE THE SECOND LUIGI FROM MARIO GALAXY CAME FROM
..oh. Yeah, this was probably how they came up with the decision to keep Green Star Luigi instead of making Mario be the second-in-command.
Or Gooigi
OH MY GOD YEAH XD
Comicsario Geez dude calm it with the caps lock
"...due to this mode being unfinished..." Modders. You know what to do. Seriously, this needs to exist. It looks and sounds fun. I'd watch a Swanky co-op video of two Luigis going around doing things like a proper co-op game.
Surely, we might. However, you can't forget modding for this game isn't and has never been an easy or quick task. Especially code modifying.
@@LMFinish Say someone started the project tomorrow like a legit dedicated modder working on this. I can see this being a project that's going to be finished in late 2021 If anything I can see it taking a year to finish and get everything right maybe quicker if they worked on it everyday.
@@LMFinishHuh. Guess that’s why Luigi’s Mansion doesn’t have an SM64 Star Road style hack either (I actually found one once, but couldn’t get it to work).
forgot this comment existed
Ah yes my favorite brothers, the Luigi brothers
@Captain C.
Luigi who’s that? I only know Green Mario Brothers
TyConrel
Anyone who calls Luigi “Green Mario” must pay with their blood
ShadowDragonGamer 476 Specifically, each ‘green Mario’ heretic will be placed in stasis, have their body’s full supply of hemoglobin replaced with sulfhemoglobin, rendering their blood green and functionless. They will then have a couple of seconds to reflect on their mistake.
Nah, that’s just Ernest.
@@Void_Echoes r/whoosh
Luigi, when you were in our mother, we had another brother...
His name was Ernest, and you took him with you.
BUT NOT IN THE RIGHT WAY! LUIGI!
Bowser went in time to stomp baby mario
This Golden Gem of a comment.
"We basically ripped the baby in half-"
Yeah. That's one Hell of a sentence to hear, and even with context, it sounds terrifying.
The door glitch can be solved by adding the Unlock All Doors action replay code. Just gotta be careful to do things in exact order otherwise the game breaks (boos will despawn after being found). Also, when P2 is low on heath, exit the game and reload as player 1 only and get health. Save and Reload the game again with 2 players and P2’s health is restored!
Video: *two Luigi's will break the game*
Gooigi: *crying in goo in the basement*
This entire discovery has been so exciting!
I know modding for GameCube games is still in it's infancy, but considering that fantastic multiplayer modes that have been modded from scratch into Games like Mario 64 & Sunshine, it's really exciting to see what modders will do with this since they already have a pretty strong frame to build on top of!
13:51 Bonus points for using the Smithy final boss music from Super Mario RPG Legend of the 7 Stars on the SNES! That is SUCH and underrated game. With KILLER music too! Sad it never got a real sequel
11:07
Twoigi: w-what do we do!?
Luigi: MY EYES!
"I was low on health."
The gravestones spawn huge hearts.
The discord made it. They gave the second luigi the mario skin. Next project will probably be, adding voice lines and amplifying new code.
REALLY! SHOW ME THE LINK PLEASE!
@@masonbraun3734 don't have it right now
@@mitschcrafter6766 But still, that is soooo cool!
That is hilarious seeing the second player move around in the cutscenes. 🤣
Imagine being such an underdog that in your first titled solo outing, you almost played second fiddle to yourself.
"This Turns Into A Luigi Wins By Doing Absolutely Nothing Challenge."
I'm dead lol! 😂😂😂
Videos like this make me wonder how many speed running categories you've inspired.
Jarvis: YOU THOUGHT I WAS DEAD BOYO, BUT I LIVED
i love this
its so fascinating to find out that this could have easily been a co op game at some point in development. thanks for this fun and cool video!
P2 doesn’t have a vacuum: Luigi loses by doing absolutely everything and absolutely nothing at the same time
As a Luigi fan, I feel bad for this joke, but...
Luigi: "Now I see why Mario doesn't bring me on adventures; I'm a pain to work with."
Luigi when he forgets to take his schizophrenia pills.
Can't wait for this mod to get updated so we can all enjoy Luigi's Mansion as it was meant to be.
When you and a friend beat the game in co-op so you know it’s actually possible.
I would have loved to play as another character in any Luigi's Mansion game, but well...
With some modification it would likely work pretty well (given it would take a lot of effort)
Ahh yes my favorite character, Green Mario 2
I would love for someone to properly patch the two player mode, and make it fully functional.
Why call it Luigi's mansion if you can play as Mario?
Is mario trying to over throne Luigi again?
Mario: I only want the throne for Spagehettie
"We Basically Ripped The Baby In Half After We Crossed The Streams."
Damn lol! 😂😂😂
*_YOUR NOT SUPPOSED TO CROSS THE STREAMS_*
Morgan Kasper Maybe that's what happens when you cross the streams, it multiplies you! 😀
I can confirm that it’s possible to beat the game with 2 Players. Me and my friend are doing a play through on my channel.
Two player for such a game would've been a big feat in that time tbh. So not surprised it wasn't finished. The fact they at least tried implementing it shows the lengths the devs went to into making the game.
I really liked it when player 1 walked away with Mario’s portrait with player 2 following behind.
Hey swanky I just wanted to let you know I absolutely love all the content you create and thumb up everything you create. You deserve so much more for the effort you put in! Keep it man! :)
15:26 maybe the game wants player 2 Luigi not to die in the ice room? I don’t know
Hey swanky, I think I know why the second Luigi can't open doors very well. Since the objects in the room unload, the door doesn't work properly if player one leaves due to being partially unloaded. This is why it works fine if player 2 enters first and then player one follows, as the objects are still loaded.
Are you planning on uploading part 2 of the Luigi's Mansion 2-P Hack on SwankyZone? I would love to see that and great work on your videos!
**Gooigi would like to have a word with you.**
I would love to see someone polish this up and make it actually fun.
Luigi: This place is kinda scary.
Gooigi: Now that I'm here, it's a nightmare.
I’d like to see what the mansion looks like from a first person perspective. We only ever see it as if we’re looking into a doll house
8:31
Left Luigi: Karen draining a McDonalds employee's sanity meter
Right Luigi: Karen when exposed/called a Karen
5:04 Luigi what is your hair doing
Aw man, Luigi’s Mansion 3 looks TIGHT!
2:00 Rest of video
I am still amazed that so much of the multiplayer in Luigi's Mansion 3DS Remake was already there in the very first game. Similar goes for LM3, especially the "two player vacuum".
So gud we have peebs like u documenting it. :3
5:19
This looks like some Movie\Cutscene stuff right here, Movie\cutscene worthy
5:03 This is Cursed...
Shouldn't the 2nd Luigi be the unused upscaled Mario character that was found in the files? Granted, it would be weird when he can still call for Mario, but maybe the actual game where you can hear Mario calling back from the well would've been used for a call/response thing?
Seems like there needs to be a little extra programming in addition to giving P2 his gear so it's assigned to the total count, but this reinforces the idea that they were probably intending to have Mario as the second character so each player would see how much they collected/etc. but for the training room and total cash acquired it would probably be tallied separately then compiled into a total.
Some of the issues with room loading and the other issues is likely why it was removed, but it's rather sad since it looks like it would've been a lot of fun.
The mario portrait being glitched doubly reinforces my theory that he was meant to be P2.
what's with the UA-cam logo flashing at 8:33? Some kinda poltergeist perhaps?
Luigi just finds E Gadd and another just opens the door and freely roams
I'd love to see this mod restored and polished up.
The day this mod drops and is re built from what's left of the code and works fine will be a big leap for this game hopefully we see it one day
i like how the 2 luigis are walking out of the mansion
There should be a mod that makes multiplayer work perfectly in this game! I know the 3DS remake has multiplayer but it would be really cool to see it in the original
Man if this is something that could be mod'ed on further, so you can play co op on netplay. That would be sick
Co-op on Netplay is most certainly viable at the moment.
The cutscenes are the best part😂
Gooigi: and that’s how I was made
My dudes got a cool bathroom.
I'm glad this idea was explored more in the 3ds port of this game
the bowser fight sounds fun
Pretty cool how they properly finished it for the 3ds version (or was it only in dark moon? I can’t remember but this is super similar to that mode.
Someone has to make this a ROM hack with the grass texture over the second Weegee
How do you make Luigi2 start with the poltergust?
As in what is the gecko/AR code
Possible, yes, but the hackers might wanna work on fixing it up, otherwise player 2 is essentially dead weight.
Next Up: Can you beat Mario 64 by doing absolutely nothing?
0:56 what the F*** does SHAVING have to do with gaming? SHAVING
"Just Like A Vacuum Full Of Spirits."
Lol! 😂😂😂
"It helps you with all your grooming needs"
onision: YEAAAAA
I think somebody should make a rom hack fixing all these issues
If you were able to use hacks to force-equip the poltergust onto the second luigi, couldn't you have just set his health or location to whatever you needed instead of needing to have him constantly play it safe?
Unlike the flag for the Equipment on/off state, which is global (affects all loaded player objects), using health codes we already have doesn't affect P2. Although it's no impossible task to make a code for that at all, so maybe we'll have that in no time. I'll try digging his health in RAM soon.
Nintendo makes Luigi look like some kind of scaredy cat and pokes fun at it but literally any sane person in the world would be scared if they had to rely on a vacuum to defeat ghosts inside of a creepy haunted mansion. The dude needs more props.
you can actually capture portrait ghosts with the player 2 luigi, but boos and bosses are a no no
that thumbnail definitely was not what I originally thought it was...
GASP!
This was basically their first thought of Gooigi
So you found a way to make the 3DS remake play on the original. That's the power of doing what you want kids! Now Luigi can face his fears with the help of the mythical "Twowegiee!"
Ok swanky your voice is so weird, but i love it and keep up the good work my dude!!
When arbitrary challenges meet gamebreaking glitches
5:10 looks like egadd is pissing.
I think Gooigi would be jealous! 🙃
The fact that you're doing this on the original Luigi's Mansion on the GameCube though is quite interesting! 😄😁👍
No one:
Swanky every 5 seconds: 1:06
Gooigi be like: Hold my goo
Why mario is playable in luigi's mansion?
Is mario trying to over throne luigi again?
Mario: I only want the throne for Spagehettie
Dsc: I'm about to fund this whole mansion carrier
I mean the second Luigi is canon in Super Mario Galaxy, so i think this is legit
You sure love your panning shots
So just luigi's mansion 3 in luigi's mansion 1.
nice
You should record a play though/lets play of this multiplayer. It would be fun to watch.