Is George Clooney Batman Now? - New DCU Batman and Flash Ending Explained
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The claims that the Flash will be the first entry in DCU were never clear.
James Gunn confirmed that the movie will reboot the DC universe, but everyone was very ambiguous about what it actually means for the future of Flash.
Ezra Miller will most likely not return as the Flash.
And considering the box office numbers of and how the movie is being received, it’s highly unlikely that this version of the Flash will continue.
And if that’s the case, then it means that Clooney won’t be returning to the DCU as Batman.
Doug: Wait I’m confused now, is he Batman or not?
Well, I guess this depends on what James Gunn will announce about the ending.
I wouldn’t discount the possibility of Clooney returning, and I have some ideas on how that could even work.
But more than likely, this was just a fun cameo for the Flash, just like they had Nicolas Cage appear as Superman.
Doug: But what about Jason Mamoa?
Right, Jason Mamoa is in the credit scene, confirming that Aquaman is still part of this timeline.
But I bet DC Studios didn’t make a choice on Aquaman’s future yet, and they’re waiting to see how the sequel performs before deciding on how to proceed with Mamoa.
So to make this all easier to understand, the ending of the Flash exists in a separate continuity from the upcoming DCU. A continuity that will be brand new without the baggage of the DCEU or any other previous movies.
Now what’s interesting is that according to the reports, the ending we got is one of the three alternative endings that Warner Brothers were planning.
One of these endings included Michael Keaton becoming the DCEU’s Batman. There are set photos that show Keaton’s Batman alongside Barry Allen outside the courthouse at the end of the movie.
And Supergirl is there as well.
This would have meant that after Flash reset the timeline, the Batman and the Supergirl from the other universe would have entered the disjointed continuity of the DCEU. Meaning Barry’s actions royally messed up the timeline.
This ending makes sense since Keaton was supposed to appear as Batman in the canceled Batgirl movie.
The second ending was going to be mostly the same as the first, but on top of Keaton and Sasha Calle, the ending would have included Henry Cavill as Superman and Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman. However, this ending wasn’t filmed.
There was also a scrapped post-credit scene that was going to include Ben Affleck, and apparently Barry’s actions sent him to another universe and now he needs saving.
In the end, they chose to use the ending with Clooney.
So yeah, it’s a giant mess. The Flash is a byproduct of countless course corrections and seismic changes in Warner Brothers. So I guess it’s a miracle that the movie was actually not bad at all. I personally like it.
Anyways, all of this means that once the DCU actually begins, there will be a completely different actor playing Batman.
While the Flash won’t have anything to do with the DCU, he did mess with the multiverse a lot in this movie. So in theory his actions created James Gunn’s universe.
Now could Clooney work as the DCU’s Batman….? Maybe. I personally would prefer a Batman who isn’t in their 60s.
But like I said before, Clooney is a great actor, so if he is the DCU’s Batman that could still work.
So if the plan is to keep Clooney as Batman, I’m sure that they will make it work with a bit of cinema magic.
And there are multiple versions of old man Batman in the comics which could serve as an inspiration for Clooney’s Batman.
There’s The Dark Knight Returns, which was done to death at this point. Batman v Superman is a very loose adaptation of that iconic story. Same as the Dark Knight Rises.
Then there’s Batman Beyond, which explored a retired Bruce Wayne who’s mentoring a new and younger Batman in the future.
As well as Kingdom Come, in that story Batman was still active in his old age.
But not to sound redundant, I don’t believe Cloney is returning. The nature of the cameo, the beard, the tone of the ending of Flash, it all gives me strong vibes that it’s just a gag. And we shouldn’t take this too seriously.
Again, I think the best thing to do is to cast a new actor as the DCU’s Batman.
Honestly, Ben Affleck would have been a perfect fit for this particular Batman story but sadly it's highly unlikely they'd want him or that he'd want to. Affleck as Batman, Cavil as Superman and Garfield as Spiderman all have something in common. They were all perfect fits for the characters they were cast to play but were also victims of being perfect casting but for the wrong films
Tobey Maguire was a perfect casting of Spider-Man
@@filmnationstudios389 no doubt. Both can be true though. Tobey was great casting and he got to be in 2 spiderman films that are all time classics. Garfield was the perfect guy to take on the character when the franchise was starting fresh again.... He didn't get to be in a Sam Raimi level film. His films were average at best then the second one was dog shit. Garfield was wasted. Just like Affleck as Batman. He was an awesome Batman, in pretty bad movies overall
@@filmnationstudios389i agree Tobey was a perfect casting choice and even he didn’t fall victim to what Andrew went thru
100% agreed
@@filmnationstudios389I agree with you there
Clooney was used as a throw away, in essence so the studio could wash it's hands of Ezra. And also to close out the DCEU era with a wink. I can see Clooney agreeing to that, as opposed to a full outing as Batman due to his well know back issues.
Exactly. It was WB way of saying "say goodbye to the DCEU with this joke which will make no one laugh and everybody terribly confused and quite angry" ;)
Exactly, Ezra's The Flash is now stuck in the Clooneyverse of Batman. Any new Flash will be in the DCUverse. What a good way to write Miller out of The Flash.
Does this mean there is no flash in the DCEU now
@@Arnsteel634 You could interpret that Clooney became part of the DCEU as part of Flash actions or that the Flash ended up in a Clooney verse (?). Either way it doesn't matter. What we as an audience know as the DCEU is something we will never revisit. It's like asking what happened to George Reeve's Superman. Who knows? We will never get go see that universe develop.
@@victorlazo238well it got a laugh. He could be a great choice for a funnier version of Batman like the Adam West version.
I had always dreamed of the elder Batman that mentored Terry Mcginnis to be Keaton, but I grew up in a house in the 90’s with a single mother that was a nurse that loved ER… If the gods determine Clooney should take that role then i’ll just sit and grin like a happy little boy 😂
The only old Batman I want is for a Batman Beyond movie mentoring Terry McGinnis
Yes please
Exactly
No thank you
Christian Bale mentoring Joseph Gordon-Levitt
we were supposed to get one with Keaton, but DC scrapped it.
Clooney always was the best physical match for Bruce Wayne, as he's been drawn for most of his existence. And it's not Clooney's fault that his particular Batman movie was made by a director and screenwriter who thought they were remaking the Adam West version. But I could see Clooney actually playing an aged Bruce Wayne in a live-action version of Batman Beyond.
He looks awful in a Batman costume
@@delmarfrazier2727tbh, his batman costume was horrible
Clooney intentionally played Bruce Wayne/Batman as gay because he thought of him as gay, Clooney is awful
What do you mean, Christian Bale was an unknown before Batman?
I was thinking the same thing since Bale was a well known child actor before Batman
He absolutely was not an unknown by the time 2005 came around. He was in : Mio in the Land of Faraway(1987), Empire of the Sun(1987), Henry V(1989), Newsies(1992), Swing Kids(1993), Prince of Jutland(1993), Little Women(1994), Pocahontas(1995), A Midsummer Nights Dream(1999), American Psycho(2000), Shaft(2000), Captain Corelli's Mandolin(2001), Reign of Fire(2002), Equilibrium(2002), The Machinist(2004), Howl's Moving Castle(2004), all before appearing Batman Begins in 2005 and was still only 31 at the time.
You just spoiled one of the best jokes in the thumb.
Having Affleck in another universe & figuring how to come back to hid universe sounds like a cool idea. We can finally have Ben his own movie but In a unique way.
Yeahhh it’s not going to happen tho
Having Affleck arrive outside the courthouse with Jason Todd as Robin and having him be the main Batman going into Brave and Bold would have been the best possible scenario.
@Byronic19134 having Affleck's "Fat"man out of the DCEU is already the best decision by far. The only way the Snyder-verse would've made any sort of sense is if the introduced Affleck's character as Thomas Wayne.
@@Autumnssslove fs less likely chance, nonetheless cool idea but excited for brave & the bold!!
@@Byronic19134 I rather them cut to Bruce's feet walking & barry's reaction like at the Flash movie screenings they showed. Not revealing too much about the new rebooted DCU
The important question is: Will the bat-nipples come back?
More importantly will the bat credit card make a come back
@@thecunninlynguist it will cuz its forever
@@sireynavicera4685I c wut u did dere
I hope his cod piece returns.😜
That's why Superman works alone 😛
ANGRY COMMENT!!
CHRISTIAN BALE WAS NOT AN UNKNOWN BEFORE BATMAN BEGINS!!! HE HAD ABOUT 20 FILM CREDITS BEFORE THAT, INCLUDING AMERICAN PSYCHO AND EMPIRE OF THE SUN. AND HE LENT HIS VOICE FOR THE 1995 POCAHONTAS.
Agree!!!
Plus the lead in Newsies and an important supporting role in Kenneth Branagh's Henry V
Clooney would have been cool and I would accept him. But I do think Jensen Ackles would be the safe move assuming he can screen test well. He's voiced Batman already, he already bulked up to play Soldier Boy, and being 45 I think he's just the right age to have the Bat family already championed and Damian come into the picture. IMO.
He would be a good Batman.
i would love to see him as batman with probably Jared Padalecki as any character in his movie
No matter what happened in The Flash, it introduced the reality that there are multiple timelines. The DCU going forward may end up being a completely different one than any of the ones we have seen so far. It gives them the chance to start with a clean slate while keeping everything else that has happened as cannon as well.
*canon
Agree. I think going forward... DCU will be a new thing. New cast. New timeline. Etc.
@@darrinwebber4077no he is going to keep his favourite ones and recast the rest
I know it won't happen, but I'd be willing to give George Clooney another chance as Batman as long as he was playing a more serious take on the character. Because I actually think he could portray a Batman who's been weathered by age and trauma with nothing but the cowl to live for.
You literally just described Afflecks batman
@@nitromoist2248 That's true and I actually think that Affleck's Batman was very cool and underutilized in the DCEU as a whole. There's no reason for why he never got a solo film because there's still so much story left to tell with his version of the character. Just like how I sometimes wonder if there's not an interesting story to tell with Clooney's Batman set decades after the events of Batman and Robin. Because then you could explore how this Batman who existed in this colorful silly world in his youth; now operates in this dark and cruel world in his later years. And maybe it's just me, but there's something about that premise that just seems appealing to me.
He is too old for Action movie.
Except they use stuntman and CGIs cloney face on it
I am seeing the movie this weekend. Avoided watching g spoiler reviews but hoped people wouldn't feel it necessary to slap spoilers on the UA-cam thumbnails. Man I hope not to see Clooney come in at the end and realise that Screen Crush felt it necessary to ruin it for people. I will be very disappointed. 😞
Did see the movie, but thought the same thing. It is a very bad move of Screencrush to spoil something that could easily be avoided.
@@Down01986 It is completely unneeded and unfair. I am unsubbing this dude after years of watching his videos.
Agreed, they've done this a few times with recent releases. Not everyone is able to see the latest movie right away. Heavy Spoilers has been doing this too. Shame, because both have great content and insight. May have to start dropping them.
This was obviously done to isolate the problem they have with Ezra, leaving that Flash in a dead universe, and bring the fan favorite TV Flash into the DCU.
Maaaaan… don’t do that…. Don’t give me hope lol kinda pissed when CW Barry didn’t show up in the DC Montage at the end.
TV flash is the most dogshit thing ever. That’s never happening.
Grant wasn't even invited to the premier of Flash, he is not going to be playing him in the DCU.
@@Byronic19134 so Clooney was at the premier? Nope. So why spoil your future plans by inviting him?
@@cchhaadd33Grant Gustin is perfect
Anyone that thought Clooney was gonna be the DCU new Bats is out of their minds. They were telling the audience that the Snyderverse has been relegated to the Schumacher-verse where things go to die.
Mann I hope so
I don't know. Batman has cycles of dark to light and back to dark again.. you had Adam West, then Keaton, then Clooney, then Bale, then Affleck's "I'm rich" powered Bats. Notice the pattern?
The question is, was Clooney's second appearance meant to counter Keaton's dark Batman second appearance?
@@younghan3573 We're pattern recognizing beings. Its all about the $$$ with these takes on Bats IP
I've always been a Marvel guy (old guy, so I'm talking comics), but the big draw of this particular storyline, is that it made a CONCERTED effort to distinguish itself from the (tiring) multiverse Marvel barrage, by making it strictly about time travel. DC was never known, to this point, for taking part in long-term, philosophical morality in it's properties - Which was actually kind of refreshing after a couple solid decades of Marvel's constant (but important) social/individual critique. The Flash time travel gave DC that opportunity without stepping in Marvel's many well-worn philosophical storylines. They did a GREAT job with it, too!
Aside from the horrific state of CGI affairs after about a quarter BILLION dollars of investment, this installment decided to avert the ONE distinguishing and well-received aspect of The Flash storyline. What's different about time-travel vs multiverse? Well, everything. It's reminiscent of atheist philosophy vs incarnation theory. Atheist philosophy is MUCH more dramatic because, at it's core, it hinges on ONE chance to live out Campbell's "Heroes Journey" - as opposed to the reincarnation philosophy, which generously allows nearly unlimited blunders and the righting of those wrongs. Atheist philosophy gives only a handful of decades to "get it right" - one shot within one timeline and with one action that inflicts it's repercussions immediately upon the participant. The Flash time travel storyline WAS that "one shot" perspective, which not only ushered in a whole other set of moral and philosophical implications, but also really amped up the drama in an organic, interesting way.
I can identify the older from younger criticisms because, in addition to the obvious and confusing final product aesthetics, the old fogies are far more annoyed by this gold mine which was not only already in existence with massive success, but also set the DC franchise apart from the Marvel's increasingly convoluted multiverse in a respectable and substantial way. If this were truly an effort to reboot the DCU, the time travel storyline was the perfect way to do it; the only way, in some respects. This seems more like a controlled demolition than a reboot.
Very well said. On one hand, it’s a celebration of DC, yet on the other it feels as if they sabotaged the film (via editing/cgi/story) purposefully after seeing the writing on the wall, to stoke the audience’s desire to reboot completely. Perhaps the unavoidable studio climate just makes it appear that way. Such a shame.
I loved the retro causality explanation of time travel. Which is not being talked about enough in the press, the way that Nolan got astrophysicists to talk about Black Holes during the Interstellar press run. The audience is not used to this type of time travel story-telling.
Long term philosophical morality is a huge part of DC. It seems like you're not very familiar with DC Comics. Superman has always been a morally aspirational character. He straight up tells the reader what the moral was in many, many stories. Batman did the same. Often moralizing to Robin and/or Commissioner Gordon. The Green Lantern and Green Arrow comics, both individually and the team-up series, were and are almost exclusively based on social commentary. The Green Arrow is literally a Democrat who got elected as same. Hawk and Dove was a treatise on war, policing, and class dynamics, and I could go on. Wonder Woman is a feminist icon, Swamp Thing is the ultimate environmentalist, The Martian Manhunter is essentially always about xenophobia... Your impression of what DC Comics is just doesn't square with reality
Hello, Hezekiah - You are absolutely right about many of those comics, but please note that I said "to this point" about DC not often partaking in social/individual critique. The Flash time travel storyline was introduced in 1961.
Since you mentioned Superman, do you know the inspiration for the character? It came from Jerry Siegel who was an avid fan of the philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche's book, "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" and his notion of an "Ubermensch" (later translated to Superman). This wasn't initially a character, but a philosophy which states that God is dead, and to overcome this tragedy, men must follow someone who is near to perfection. This philosophy was the core from which much genetic experimentation was inflicted upon peoples in 1920-1930s era Germany, because like the Superman narrative, most humans were genetically flawed and required either death (purification), or upgrading. This philosophy of eugenics and human genetic modification would later become the inspiration for Julian Huxley (brother of Aldous, interestingly) in 1957, when he coined the term "transhumanism." The idea is that despite ourselves, we are not capable of reaching our higher potential by the handing of ever-refining ideals generation-to- generation (the way we did for tens-of-thousands of years), but that in light of the industrial revolution (and future technologies), we must emulate someone superior, from a superior place, with superior technology who, by their very existence, could provide salvation from our sorrows....if we would only agree to become something else and emulate this superior example.
In fact, it was Marvel's ideas about differences being our power, that caught my eye those many years ago. Marvel introduced storylines that reduced complicated philosophy down into narratives that anyone could understand, at any age. Ideas such as that our lives are made from a series of good and bad choices, and it's within those moments that we may build our character; character acting as the support beams of self-esteem and societal contributions, while also making our differences irrelevant because every single person, from any place, at any time, and with any technology, must build themselves and their community upon those same choices. Most of Marvel's heroes (especially the earlier ones) weren't from "over there" with "those genetics" or with "that technology" - they were just people who strived every day to understand what makes goodness good, by dealing with what makes badness bad and, thereby, coming to know the infinite number of forms both can take when chosen. You are entitled to your views of the Caped Crusader, but in my eyes it seems little more than "Seeking External Validation through Societal Saviors and Minimizing Your Power to Build a Better World" for third-graders. Sure, there were many simple, Aesop-fable-like "good-ol values" stashed within the pages of Superman, but the same can be said about Garfield, for example.
Wonder Woman is feminist? Wonder Woman became a symbol for numbing sexism in a puerile forum - a woman in hot pants, written and drawn by men, for a medium aimed at boys. You can see more about inverted-feminism in superheroines in a great documentary I did research for entitled, "Wonder Women! The Untold Stories of American Superheroines."
I take issue with three other ethics you've attributed to DC characters, but it's 3:33 A.M., and I have class in a few hours.
If you would like citations of any references, and/or a recommended reading list of these foundational philosophies (of either ilk), I'll be glad to oblige. Unfortunately, YT won't allow me to paste links to these citations, or my edu email address, so feel free to send your inquiry to:
Brian Kierland
- Associate Professor of Meta-ethics and Probabilistic Epistemology
Boise State University
1910 W. University Dr.,
Boise, ID 83725
Take care, Hezekiah.
@@TheTanman412 Sorry for just seeing your reply! I totally agree. Have you watched the Special Features disc of the Blu-Ray release interviewing some of those astrophysicists? It's nearly as long as the movie, itself, and I've watched it many times more than the film, itself! lol. It must have been a selling point for the Blu-Ray because it's not on the DVD, and it worked in spades - I bought my first BR player after hearing from a co-worker how awesome it is. That damn player was $300 and I've bought a whole 4 BR movies since. Game point: Interstellar :/
He'll either be an elder like batman beyond and/or dealing with his son Dameon etc.
If it's anything more than just a cameo, maybe. Makes the most sense I guess.
Honestly, seeing Clooney confused me too lmao But, James Gunn is wiping the slate clean anyway so it was a cool Easter egg I guess
I jumped out of my seat when I saw George Clooney on the screen. This is all he needed a chance to be in a movie with a more serious tone to it. Given the chance I think he’ll crush it and now with his age, he will be a good mentor for Robin. Plus, the MAN doesn’t age.
I loved the flash movie, Solid 9/10
I’m 33 in 7 days; i got the Batman Begins symbol tatted on my spine the very day I turned 18 which is as early as legally possible here in Texas: I just need James Gunn and his crew to take our guy seriously. Had a terrible childhood, feels like I was half raised by Keaton. Batman means so much to a lot of us.
I enjoyed Keaton's return, limited as it was. I really hope they do a Batman Beyond, featuring him, even if it's just a standalone elseworlds story.
The first mistake is assuming Gunn actually knows what he is doing in terms of running an entire cinema verse.
Gunn is ruining it
I think hindsight googles is an unfair tool to analyse this. 1st, Gunn didnt write, directed or produced this movie, which was filmed between 21-22. 2nd, Gunn only opined that it was the greatest or something like that, and that he'd use it to justify a reboot and recast of the universe. 3rd, this and aquaman 2 are the final productions for the dceu, and people are opting for being apathetic, which Gunn cant help but accept. Lets see if he "knows what he's doing" after we see his product out, and not before.
The honesty should have let The Rock take over, he was going to bring back Henry Cavill’s Superman as the DCEU lead character
@filmnationstudios389 it's hard to ruin a franchise that imo has 1 MAYBE 2 decent movies, not great just fine in a sea of, lackluster scripts, horrible character development and unremarkable cinematography. And it hurts to say as a huge dc fan. They need to just put the animated universe team in charge of the live action.
@@filmnationstudios389 He hasn't made a single DC movie within the new DCU. What exactly is he "ruining"?
Spoilers!!!!!!!!!! 👎
If they introduce the Bat Family, then they need to do Under the Red Hood to introduce Red Hood and Killing Joke to set up Birds of Prey.
the new Batman! but actually i'd wouldn't mind seeing Clooney return in a cameo, Batman from his universe 🙂
Clooney was used as a throwaway, in essence, so the studio could wash its hands of Ezra. And also to close out the DCEU era with a wink. I can see Clooney agreeing to that, as opposed to a full outing as Batman due to his well know back issues. No matter what happened in The Flash, it introduced the reality that there are multiple timelines. The DCU going forward may end up being a completely different one than any of the ones we have seen so far. It gives them the chance to start with a clean slate while keeping everything else that has happened as canon as well. I had always dreamed of the elder Batman that mentored Terry Mcginnis to be Keaton, but I grew up in a house in the 90’s with a single mother that was a nurse that loved ER… If the gods determine Clooney should take that role then I’ll just sit and grin like a happy little boy as Chad Clooney always was the best physical match for Bruce Wayne, as he's been drawn for most of his existence. And it's not Clooney's fault that his particular Batman movie was made by a director and screenwriter who thought they were remaking the Adam West version. But I could see Clooney actually playing an aged Bruce Wayne in a live-action version of Batman Beyond. Honestly, Ben Affleck would have been a perfect fit for this particular Batman story but sadly it's highly unlikely they'd want him or that he'd want to. Affleck as Batman, Cavil as Superman, and Garfield as Spiderman all have something in common. They were all perfect fits for the characters they were cast to play but were also victims of being perfect casting but for the wrong films Clooney would have been cool and I would accept him. But I do think Jensen Ackles would be the safe move assuming he can screen-test well. He's voiced Batman already, he already bulked up to play Soldier Boy, and being 45 I think he's just the right age to have the Bat family already championed and Damian is a Chad come into the picture. IMO. Having Affleck in another universe & figuring out how to come back to his universe sounds like a cool idea. We can finally have Ben in his own movie but In a unique way. I've always been a Marvel guy (old guy, so I'm talking comics), but the big draw of this particular storyline, is that it made a CONCERTED effort to distinguish itself from the (tiring) multiverse Marvel barrage, by making it strictly about time travel. DC was never known, to this point, for taking part in long-term, philosophical morality in its properties - Which was actually kind of refreshing after a couple solid decades of Marvel's constant (but important) social/individual critique. The Flash time travel gave DC that opportunity without stepping into Marvel's many well-worn philosophical storylines. They did a GREAT job with it, too!
Aside from the horrific state of CGI affairs after about a quarter BILLION dollars of investment, this installment decided to avert the ONE distinguishing and well-received aspect of The Flash storyline. What's different about time travel vs multiverse? Well, everything. It's reminiscent of atheist philosophy vs incarnation theory. Atheist philosophy is MUCH more dramatic because, at its core, it hinges on ONE chance to live out Campbell's "Heroes Journey" - as opposed to the reincarnation philosophy, which generously allows nearly unlimited blunders and the righting of those wrongs. Atheist philosophy gives only a handful of decades to "get it right" - one shot within one timeline and with one action that inflicts its repercussions immediately upon the participant. The Flash time travel storyline WAS that "one shot" perspective, which not only ushered in a whole other set of moral and philosophical implications but also really amped up the drama in an organic, interesting way. I can identify the older from younger criticisms because, in addition to the obvious and confusing final product aesthetics, the old fogies are far more annoyed by this gold mine which was not only already in existence with massive success but also set the DC franchise apart from Marvel's increasingly convoluted multiverse in a respectable and substantial way. If this were truly an effort to reboot the DCU, the time travel storyline was the perfect way to do it; the only way, in some respects. This seems more like a controlled demolition than a reboot. My pick for Batman might be a bit out there but it would give you the room to have at least two Batman movies where he can still really go but also transition into the teacher role from Batman Beyond. Also, I think they need an actual Martial Artist in the role to really allow him to do some of the fightings we haven’t really seen from Batman yet. If it were me, I’d try to get Jason Statham. It would be a very different type of fighting style but would bring a harder attitude than most and someone who really knows how to fight. Maybe that’s an out-there pick, but I think he’d be excellent. Just my opinion. I enjoyed Keaton's return, limited as it was. I really hope they do a Batman Beyond, featuring him, even if it's just a standalone Elseworlds story. I think Clooney is Alfred. He never answered the question "Are you Batman." He responded, "Are you ok?" I surprisingly enjoyed this movie a lot…and absolutely loved Keaton back as Batman For me, It's Jensen Ackles. He already voices Batman in animation. And he is passionate enough for the character. I’m 33 in 7 days; I got the Batman Begins symbol tatted on my spine the very day I turned 18 which is as early as legally possible here in Texas: I just need James Gunn and his crew to take our guy seriously. Had a terrible childhood, feels like I was half-raised by Keaton. Batman means so much to a lot of us. I want the DCU Batman to be introduced in a Halloween special in 2025. A Special from the criminals/citizens of Gotham POV or following a reporter (Clark or Lois???), with some similarities to Batman: Gotham Knight, treated as a horror movie (maybe directed by Sam Raimi). Then in 2026, we get “The Brave and the Bold” (something similar to Leon: The Professional). My fan castings for Batman/Bruce are Matt Bomer, Wes Bentley, Ben Barnes, Jon Hamm, and Andrew Koji. I think Clooney is Alfred. He never answered the question "Are you Batman." He responded, "Are you ok?" I like Ezra as Flash. I like the JL suit. It’s as if Flash existed in the real world. Like Nolan’s Batman trilogy. A fabric suit would be almost crazy if his character isn’t developed, I say Flash needs 2 solo movies & 1.5 (gets destroyed) team-up movie before a futuristic-type upgrade from his future self, then does a Flashpoint. I’m torn abt the movie, bc Keaton is back as Batman & I want to see how they do that but I want to see Negan (Thomas in BvS) as Batman & them going with the Snyderverse. I feel like everything with Ezra, some things are being played up bc of some ppl or one person if he’s doing all these crazy things whose gonna double check if someone lied? I feel like after all the stuff Joss did during the reshoots/rewrites & the same with the Flash movie, it broke him, making him a victim of WB/Joss too And that helmet makes him look slow… mentally. Not slow as in speed 😂😬 it’s just like when CW first did a fabric suit, the helmet made it look like he belonged in the slower class. My theory of what happened at the end of the Flash movie: in the process of Dark Flash trying to restore the timeline to his liking for all those years while having all those universes collapse onto each other when Barry Allen finally gets it right to let his mom die to preserve to HIS liking and runs back to the timeline he thought he was going to (his own), he inadvertently ends up in the Clooney-verse by mistake. Clooney-Batman is a Batman that WB will never ever dare revisit. Ezra Miller being in a universe with that Batman, ie. a Flash that WB will never ever dare revisit with reject Batman - yeah. WB locked those two versions of those characters in a far far away dimension and threw away the key. Gunn did well. However, I must say, it’ll be a shame if this is the case. I really liked The Flash, and Ezra Miller was fantastic in it. No one can replace ben affleck ❤ Damn… Hearing Kevin Conroy's voice made me cry a bit. RIP one of the best Batmen. I would LOVE Oscar Isaac as Harvey Dent/Two-Face in either the DCU or the Reeves rims but I would actually like Jon Bernthal to play him in the Reeves films. I know it sounds weird at first, but if you think about it, it could be perfect oop's did it again.
the dog was right just now.
I think the ending was for Gunn to get rid of Ezra from his new DCEU and have him be stuck in the Clooney verse. Considering what Ezra has done and with the plans to move forward, it’s not that hard to see why 😂
Clooney is clearly not the DCU Batman cmon man, this scene's sole intention was to write Ezra's Flash out of Gunn's DCU
I think Clooney is Alfred. He never answered the question of "are you Batman." He responded "Are you ok?"
his name was bruce wayne on the phone tho
@@rockkoutt3653 They didn't show him otp. Barry definitely spoke to Bruce.
@@SuperMannyD oooooh
On The Flash cast list on IMDb it says George Clooney is Bruce Wayne
Of course he would answer "No". Batman's indenity is secret.
For me, It's Jensen Ackles. He already voices Batman in animation. And he is passionate enough for the character.
Someone tag James Gunn I fw that worldwide Batman vibe
Terrible title. I expected better from you.
Jensen Ackles... I feel he's the perfect age to have a teen son... and have you seen his Halloween pics?
I just wish they sign these actors for 8-10 movies, as apposed to negotiating for every freaking movie!
The problem with Damien since his first adventures as Robin is that Grayson was Batman at that time. That first Batman and Robin run was so awesome because you had the role reversal of Robin being the curmudgeon and Batman being lighthearted and optimistic. Bruce and Damien don’t work as well as Dick and Damien. In my opinion. (Plus Damien was an orphan at that time and now isn’t and that’s a “canon” trait.)
A globetrotting batman is something that i have allways wanted. Imagine it having the tone and style of both the recent mission impossible movies and the fighting style of John wick. It would be awesome and different from the usual gritty and realistic take.
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We NEED a live action Nightwing guys
Your nuts. When Clooney stepped out, the audience laughed so hard, then cheered. It was awesone!
I guess that was the "big, spoiler cameo" that I avoided until just now? ...thanks 🤦🏾♂️
Just imagine how crazy it would be if it was Christian bale Batman
Screencrush just pulled the ultimate trolololol card with this title. 😢
I'm really surprised to hear you say that the Bat Family hasn't been explored on film before since Titans included an older Batman, Dick Grayson becoming Nightwing, Barbara Gordon as former Batgirl/now Oracle, Jason Todd becoming Red Hood, Tim Drake becoming Robin, etc etc.
Film. That's a tv show.
@@derekgray9774 It's all pixels to me
@BretMogilefsky it isn't to him though, so you can't be surprised lol
Surprised you made such a stupid comment. It's ridiculously obvious what he means by "hasn't been explored on film".
As a huge nightwing fan should I watch that? Is it good?
One thing that popped in my head:
When you're talking about "Brave and the Bold", you mention that, at some point, the comics make Batman teaming up with other heroes.
If my memory doesn't fail, the whole plot for Zack Snyder wanted all the DC movies revolve around Superman: He appears in Man of Steel, it brings Batman to the plot in Batman v Superman, it should be dead in the end of Justice League and it would show the ramifications around all the other heroes till Superman comes back.
So it looks like James Gunn want to do something like that, using Batman as the spine for the universe. By teaming Batman with other heroes, they could bring all the heroes and see if Batman + "Hero of the hour" works and then branch into the "Hero of the hour" solo movies.
But bringing Damian would also be fun 'cause, if they want, they can branch into Titans, as in some stories, Batman sends Damian to join the Titans to learn how to play in a team.
favourite part for me was the 'come on barbie... lets go party' just love that bit for many reasons
0:25 Great work with the background check guys!!!
This is an big spoiler, please be mindful of your titles and pictures, just got spoiled by browsing YT...
He was only kidding....
No you didn’t.
@ScreenCrush One of my biggest disappointments was Barry didn't learn anything from the movie. He STILL messed with the time line, even though the whole point of the movie was, "Learn to let go"
Jenson Ackles would make a good Batman to be fair. Jared Padelecki could make a good Hal Jordan, but I want to see the John Stewart Green Lantern.
That first second "Boom" should be lowered....there are dogs in the house
DC needs to stop thinking "universe" and start thinking "stand-alone". Remember those?
IF there's a good reason to connect 2 or more movies down the line, go ahead, but don't make it the primary directive. FOCUS ON GOOD, SINGLE MOVIES FIRST!
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Christian Bale was unknown before Batman Begins!? The disrespect! 😂
I dont know why they wouldnt just bring in Robert Pattinson. The Batman was a huge hit and it would seriously help the fledgling DCU get off the ground.
Could you imagine thinking any of this were important or intentional beyond 'yeah put whoever in it'
The "Im the eldest boy" made me literally spill my water
So until we get a new Batman actor, technically George Clooney is the current Batman.
They explained how in the multiverse some people will always look the same while others can look like an entirely different person. Theoretically the new DCEU will have some of the same actors but will probably take place in a different universe.
Batman Beyond with all 5 recent live action Batman’s (Keaton, Clooney, Kilmon, Bale, Affleck and Pattinson. A DC No Way Home with a good directors, writers and some returning or new villains.
The 2017 film American Assassin, starring Michael Keaton and Dylan O'Brian, was essentially Batman Beyond.
Are you serious, Ryan? The movie has been out for 4 days. Wtf
It makes perfect sense to sell that "OH shit I REALLY fucked up" joke. Clooney - the consumate practical joker himself - would have eaten it up.
I like to think that Batman is different each time because he is adopted. Every time Barry went back to change the past, the Waynes chose a different child and named him Bruce.
Honestly would still love to see Jensen Ackles as the dcu batman
Man I’d love to see a “Batman Beyond” movie on the big screen animated/live action, whatever. Either with George Clooney or Ben Affleck.
Maybe one day…
Are spoilers in the title now? New screw ups and the lack of common decency explained.
DC will never catch up to itself. They remake movies 10x more than any other universe, ONTOP of having a series with completely different actors and versions of the characters to disconnect themselves even further.
This is a huge spoiler for a movie that just came out. Not even 2 weeks ago.
I usually unsub to channels that do this... This one is getting close! If I hadn't seent he movie yet I would be pissed at that title.
Ish. The way it happens these days it'll be out of the box office in two more weeks 😢. I thought the movie was good, but I guess it's not doing as well as expected
If you havent seen it yet
That’s on you
UA-cam ain’t safe
You get 48 hours. Stop crying. And it’s not even a spoiler cuz it means nothing. This timeline will never be seen again
The movie was mid so blah
How about James Gunn's Batman isn't the first Batman in his rebooted DCEU. There's a new Batman, mentored by Clooney.
I really enjoyed the film and I wish the alternate endings and some extras are gonna be included on the digital and physical releases 🤞🏻🙏🏻
Damn… Hearing Kevin Conroys voice made me cry a bit. RIP one of the best Batmen.
Bro Conroy isn't one of... he is the best Batman.
It's hilarious how they really do a great job ignoring fans Batman Beyond is all over the DNA Of Keaton. George and the other guys can kick rocks other than Bale and The Batman
My guess would be Clooney remains as the Batman of the DCEU universe but will never see him again. Aquaman 2 will be the last movie set in that universe and Gunn will be free to create whatever kind of universe he wants with the DCU.
Very bold to call Christian Bale unknown after having been in American Psycho
6:10 Jon Hamm could actually be an AMAZING choice for Batman. Gosling, maybe, he was great in 2049. 6:22 Don't diversify OG Batman! It's just like Spider-Man, you don't need to diversify the OG characters because there are already OUTSTANDING, DIVERSE characters like Miles Morales. Don't water-down diversity by forcing it. A black Iron Man? No, Black Panther. Captain Marvel, Ms. Marvel. Give diversity the respect of their own characters!
MICHAEL KEATON IS 71??? WTF I THOUGHT HE WAS LIKE IN HIS LATE 50'S EARLY- MID 60'S
This poster really likes that Succession show... 😆
I imagine somewhere within (DC U.) there is a realm, that the (GEORGE CLOONEY) Batman, exists in it.
But I imagine that GEORGE CLOONEY’S version of Batman, he exist’s in the Earth-94 Realm, and I imagine Bruce is retired as Batman.
The movie was meant to be a comedy. And the ending was just a throwaway gag. Much the way the original ending of Back to the Future was a gag and the creators never imagined they'd ever film a sequel. I didn't mind the Cloony gag cuz it was a fun acknowledgement that with all the wait, Batman looks different in this universe, that this were many other variations in-between. I'm sure they tried to get Christian Bale as well--but that wouldn't read as much as a "WHOOPS! We messed up ala Back to the Future"
Clint Eastwood as old Batman, pedro pascal and young Batman, Dylan mulvaney as robin
If this was Christian Bale walking out of the car, what would the reaction be??
I’ll always be for keeping Keaton as Batman
What if Clooney is Bruce Wayne but on his last legs, and we finally get the intro to Terry McGinnis
I saw "The Flash". I liked it. It was good. I wasn't confused at the end with George Clooney.
I grew up with VHS copies of Batman '89 along with Batman & Robin, so for years without context I just simply enjoyed both movies straight faced. I didn't tho, really think that both movies where tied together in continuity. When I saw, Batman Forever, I really enjoyed the balanced tone between seeing Batman, then Batman and Robin.
IF Clooney returns, I still want a Schumacher style Bat suit. The Roman, Greek God stylization I think can still work. Bat nipples and all.
Honestly in a few years there needs to be a documentary about the DCEU with all the behind the scènes décisions. It would be so entertaining 😅
Man, you cannot resist putting a spoiler in the thumbnail and title huh?
In all honesty, as a kid, I loved the cheesy Clooney Batman movies. I've not watched them since because there are some memories that need to be left behind. But I would be completely in on Clooney doing a serious Batman.
Clooney only did one
It’s definitely not a bad film. They were good for their times
"What killed the dinosaurs, the ice age!!" 😂😂
@@christophercleary6780apologies that my memory isn't as well as it was lol.
Keaton Batman is bad azz loved his fighting style in this movie.
He died 😂
TBH speaking from my heart. I wouldn't be a BATMAN Fan if it wasn't for Michael and George
I saw the movie last week thank God. Because if I waited until this weekend you would’ve spoiled the big surprise at the end. Did you have to announce it in the title?!? Please stop.
I want the DCU Batman to be introduced in a Halloween special in 2025. A Special from the criminals/citizens of Gotham POV or following a reporter (Clark or Lois???), with some similarities to Batman: Gotham Knight, treated as a horror movie (maybe directed by Sam Raimi). Then in 2026 we get “The Brave and the Bold” (something similar to Leon: The Professional).
My fan castings for Batman/Bruce are Matt Bomer, Wes Bentley, Ben Barnes, Jon Hamm and Andrew Koji.
Gunn has said Batman is still to be recast since Flash came out so this seems like it’s just a funny cameo.
Exciting times being a bat family fan.
One thing everyone should do is to not have expectations like a story to be exactly what we see in comics, animated movies or tv show. They are made in cinematic universe so that we get a new take. There is no point for them to just copy paste the story. People have to be more open minded and relate to the story as if its a fresh take. Even batman games have had a unique storyline.
affleck's batsuit and clooney's wayne suit are matching colors
Batman Beyond adaptation with Clooney as elderly retired Bruce Wayne.... watch this space.
BATMAN & ROBIN was meant for the youth at that time, that's why SOME of us LOVED it!!!!
George Clooney ALL THE WAY 100%!!!
Glad I've already seen the movie but COME ON with the spoilers! Don't be asshats, change that thumbnail and title to something a bit more vague.
There should have been two Barry’s at the end if they were truly in a “Clooneyverse”
Always cast unknown actors, something new. New faces just make them badass
6:37 is the voice in the animated world.