Classic Chevy Power Steering Box | Borgeson | 1968-1986 C10 Install

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  • Опубліковано 3 жов 2024

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  • @noampitlik2332
    @noampitlik2332 3 місяці тому +1

    Kept rocking out to that sweet music that came back over and over.

  • @RichyN25
    @RichyN25 Рік тому +9

    I'm about to do this on my 1986 C10, this looks super easy, but as working on old cars usually goes for me I'm sure I'll find a way to turn it into a multiple day job lol

    • @rnxpx
      @rnxpx Місяць тому

      How'd it go?
      I'm where you were a year ago! 😂

    • @JollySpace_Camera
      @JollySpace_Camera 26 днів тому +1

      ​@rnxpx Hey same here, any luck with you? Just got a pitman arm puller so about to do it tomorrow hopefully just gotta go pick up more fluid

  • @yamahaxs6501
    @yamahaxs6501 3 роки тому +2

    quite the mechanic I am....I wrestled with the column forever trying to loosen it so I could get the steering box out....when all I needed to do was remove the bumper bracket and it would slide right out! This was when I rebuilt my stock box. Buying one of these quick ratio boxes, so at least now it will be easier this time. Great video for that bit of knowledge alone.

  • @matt_1969ChevyC1o
    @matt_1969ChevyC1o 4 роки тому +14

    I really wish the video included you using a torque wrench to finish the pitman arm nut. We both know that's a big deal to tighten that properly. Otherwise great video, I just did this job on my 60 C10 🍻👍🏻

    • @86hyperstang
      @86hyperstang 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah I had to wait for the socket to come in to torque it down
      Thank you for watching

    • @colbylange9282
      @colbylange9282 3 роки тому +1

      @@86hyperstang what is the torque for the pitman arm nut?

    • @colbylange9282
      @colbylange9282 3 роки тому +2

      So....what is the torque for the pitman arm nut? I'm about to do this on my C10

    • @deankay4434
      @deankay4434 2 роки тому +1

      The torque is not as important as the tapered cut splines with a spring steel lock washer. Use a light application of anti-seize so it will come off 50 years from now and reduce the factory torque by 30%. Use a standard length breaker bar and call it a day! I have never had one come loose on a school bus, 2 ton farm truck, passenger car or pickup. Math = Load X Stretch.
      Look it up and quit stretching the bolt to the yield point we’re it breaks!
      No one owns “Crows” feet sets or “Flare Nut Crows” feet spanners and a torque wrench because they never use them in the videos! Why? I own 4 sets of SnapOn both Imperial and Metric. Do you? The load in these is tightening the hard to reach fasteners or seating the pipe end like a gasket! These are way more important than pitman arm torque if you have removed one.
      DK. ASE Master Tech since 1978.

  • @mark97213
    @mark97213 Рік тому +4

    How precise does the position of the pitman need to be to achieve a straight steering wheel? I assume the new box output shaft is centered, yes?

  • @mashooga
    @mashooga 3 роки тому +4

    Awesome, thanks for the quick video, I'm off to change mine out in my 1980 chevy k5 in the morning, wish me luck!!...lol small job but never know with these rigs..lol

    • @CJClassicTrucks
      @CJClassicTrucks  3 роки тому +2

      You can do it!

    • @mashooga
      @mashooga 3 роки тому +1

      @@CJClassicTrucks All done, also added another shim to starter since
      I was already getting dirty.....lol my pitman arm pissed me off a bit, but I won!.....

  • @arnoldrodriguez3803
    @arnoldrodriguez3803 Рік тому +1

    You mentioned it will fit 68-86, what about 1967?

  • @MacStrengthCo
    @MacStrengthCo Рік тому

    Great informative video! Thanks

  • @rustybumperclassics6342
    @rustybumperclassics6342 2 місяці тому

    Good video

  • @JonnyBlazeTCB
    @JonnyBlazeTCB Місяць тому

    Does set screw go on flat part of input shaft?

  • @clouseau3779
    @clouseau3779 10 місяців тому

    What else can I do to improve my steering setup in terms of spares quality and functionality? Best

  • @Everything817
    @Everything817 3 роки тому +1

    Just a note.. My 85 High Sierra had a 12mm 12 point pinch bolt holding the steering coupler. I damn near rounded it off using a regular socket. Was too caked with years of crap to see.

  • @weman5390
    @weman5390 5 місяців тому

    My steering column is too long to install on my new gear box any suggestions?

  • @deankay4434
    @deankay4434 2 роки тому

    What about the 1967 C10? Will your tiny piston diameter work on the frame using grade 8 pipe spacers and really long grade 8 bolts? At least place the gearbox in place, install shims or washers to get the correct alignment with the intermediate shaft on the vertical axis as the frame holes actually line up the 800 series Saginaw gear box on the horizontal axis.
    I would not use the 500 series because it is smaller piston diameter, thinner case and less frame to bolt thread engagement. It is 11 pounds less of a long lasting 800 series, which has way more parts, torsion bar selections and heavier case for a pickup use and lateral impact forces it see’s when transmitted to the pitman arms case. The case will oblong and create looseness that has to be machined and new bearing installed 40-50 more often than the larger diameter contact found in the 800 series. I don’t understand unless it is an patent or intellectual properties legal issue.
    DK. ASE Master Tech since 78. Former instructor for UTI and ACDelco.

  • @manuelnajera1521
    @manuelnajera1521 3 місяці тому

    Which way do you seat the adapters?

  • @mrmidnight32
    @mrmidnight32 4 місяці тому

    Does anyone know what size and style fittings the steering box has for those 2 lines? I want to convert mine to AN lines but don’t know the size or style fittings for the inlet and outlet

  • @Alexdonald2629
    @Alexdonald2629 Рік тому

    Just curious as to why this wouldn’t work on a 1967? Seems like it would bolt right up.

  • @randyperfecto7468
    @randyperfecto7468 3 роки тому

    Good stuff

  • @larryfly2761
    @larryfly2761 3 роки тому +4

    How much attention should I pay to the position of the pitman (splines) so I don't change the steering - or is this not an issue? Also, same with the rag joint. It's splined too. Just don't want to get in the truck and see my steering wheel is 1 o'clock or something.

    • @CJClassicTrucks
      @CJClassicTrucks  3 роки тому +1

      Both the pitman and rag are keyed they are supposed to fit in only one spot. For the rag joint you are looking to line the set screw on the flat part of the splines

    • @deankay4434
      @deankay4434 2 роки тому

      Larry, With the flexible coupler installation even with the pitman arms splines lined up, it still can be off by one tooth either direction. The steering wheel mount can be moved very easy and should be expected, as nothing is perfect but one tooth is easily corrected. Besides, an alignment is highly recommended after installing a new steering part especially if moving from a manual to power steering gear box. 68 and up have a indention in the frame for gear box housing clearance where the 67 did not. 66 and down have a different frame in front of the steering and have no indention which was common for tooling at the Fremont, CA plant were 70% were built.
      Best of luck but no big deal. Try using a bungee cord from the steering wheel to the brake pedal. This too can help.

  • @nickgrant343
    @nickgrant343 2 роки тому +1

    What was the part number on the steering coupler you used?

  • @martindelgado7685
    @martindelgado7685 3 роки тому +1

    Would this upgrade work on a 63 c10???

  • @colbylange9282
    @colbylange9282 3 роки тому +1

    What is the torque for the pitman arm bolt?

  • @chevybrat
    @chevybrat 2 роки тому

    Why will this steering box not work on an 87 year model?

  • @fuen10s
    @fuen10s 3 роки тому +2

    Is the same pitman arm used or would I need to purchase a separate one?

  • @ChrisOlausen-sx7hh
    @ChrisOlausen-sx7hh 10 місяців тому

    I need aleftside cross shaft for bus

  • @fasteddie4145
    @fasteddie4145 3 роки тому +1

    I can't to put a Borgeson 800 on my '71 Chevelle.....

  • @meza5207
    @meza5207 Рік тому

    What size are the bolts connected to frame

  • @8luggarage
    @8luggarage 11 місяців тому

    Will this same box work on a 72 K20 4x4?

  • @jameswilkins288
    @jameswilkins288 2 роки тому

    will this box work if you are converting over from a manual steering

  • @Billy-bm8hj
    @Billy-bm8hj 2 роки тому

    Will this work on a 4 wd, 72 k5 blazer if I change the pitman arm to the nut and washer style (like it is on 2wd)? I believe that is the only difference

  • @joryhaggerty5380
    @joryhaggerty5380 2 роки тому

    What is the part number for the steering linkage

  • @TylerPinkney
    @TylerPinkney 3 роки тому +1

    How different is the steering feel? Borgeson says this box is faster, but has a firmer feel than stock. Is this true? I think the stock is much too over-boosted and too light.

    • @CJClassicTrucks
      @CJClassicTrucks  3 роки тому

      I have driven the truck for a few hundred miles the new box feels great

  • @Mike-xt2ot
    @Mike-xt2ot 9 місяців тому

    For 100 bucks total cost i decided to install toyota or Hyundai electric power steering ( both are dirt cheap)

  • @josephhughes2651
    @josephhughes2651 3 роки тому

    Great video. Where can I get the compression fittings for the hoses?

  • @ElViejoNL
    @ElViejoNL 3 роки тому +1

    Did you have to remove the steering wheel and or listen it to allow the shaft to be hammered up? Thank you. About to do this on my 68 c10.

    • @CJClassicTrucks
      @CJClassicTrucks  3 роки тому +5

      I did not have to remove the steering wheel all you have to do is unbolt at the box the the steering shaft will collapse so you can take the box out.

    • @ElViejoNL
      @ElViejoNL 3 роки тому +1

      @@CJClassicTrucks perfect. Thanks bud. Appreciate it.

  • @tonyg2859
    @tonyg2859 10 місяців тому

    You lost me at pounding/prying on the old rag joint to remove it. Surely loosened something up top, partially evidenced by all the clearance you have for the new box and rag.

  • @elcrazy8017
    @elcrazy8017 3 роки тому

    I’m paying a shop to do this? Too bad I’m not mechanically inclined

  • @micahbright5510
    @micahbright5510 3 роки тому

    You forgot to put the bumper bracket back on

  • @howtoguroo2686
    @howtoguroo2686 3 роки тому

    why won't it work for the '67 c10 ?

    • @CJClassicTrucks
      @CJClassicTrucks  3 роки тому +1

      it will work for 67

    • @deankay4434
      @deankay4434 2 роки тому

      The 67 frame is flat and the box will crush on the frame without angled pipe like spaces inside and out. Plus the bolts are much longer and will hit the steering gear box. I took photos of mine when off, then measured the spacers to cut at an angle to be straight with the intermediate shaft were the rag joint connects. The 66 and 68 are different with raised bolt holes and an indentation in the frame to clear the cross shaft / housing of the gear box. It is completely different.

  • @ljpadilla564
    @ljpadilla564 3 роки тому

    why wont this fit a 67?

    • @deankay4434
      @deankay4434 2 роки тому

      @LJ Padilla. - 1967 frame is flat where the steering box mounts. It comes with manual only and held away from the frame with pipe like spacers. The spacers would have to cut at an angle about 3/8” off the rear cab side and 5/16” off front spacers at front near bumper. This places the box at an angle with the frame but straight to the input shaft. Use the cut part inside the frame to keep the bolts fully flat to the frame.
      In the video, when the box is off, look at the bolt holes that are raised while the frame is dished inward. Careful measurements and cutting will keep the box from touching the frame except at the bolt mount pads.
      Basically, the 1967 is different from either a 66 or 68. This is why there are no listings for a 1967 C10. The bolts are much longer because of the spacers but can be done.

  • @kiarapalacios4803
    @kiarapalacios4803 3 роки тому

    500$ for that box?? Thats too steep for my pocket

    • @yamahaxs6501
      @yamahaxs6501 3 роки тому +1

      I thought it was pretty expensive, too, but I'm hoping it's worth it to get rid of the vague steering feel of the old style boxes. They weren't built to have a performance feel

    • @CJClassicTrucks
      @CJClassicTrucks  3 роки тому +1

      The box works great i like the quicker ratio.

    • @Everything817
      @Everything817 3 роки тому

      You can get a quick ratio from LMC Truck for $300.

  • @markdelphy3767
    @markdelphy3767 2 роки тому

    Ogxpa

  • @markdelphy3767
    @markdelphy3767 2 роки тому

    Ogxpau