That's what a fire alarm should sound like, not those "squawkers"! This is what most of the schools in Dade County, Florida, used. My high school had to use a code 5 signal, the alternate signal, because we had an elementary school within earshot of the high school's bells. The elementary school used code 3, so the high school used code 5 to avoid confusion. There were no pull-station fire alarms; the bells were manually rung from the office. Since then, the schools have been refitted with pull-station alarms.
Thought of you today Nic...when I was getting off the ferry at the terminal I saw an MB-24 with a label someone had stuck on it which said "Bruh I'm broken" (which is almost all the time 50% true of MB-24s til they...well break) Interesting tidbit also about the Edwards vibratory bells. The original bells they made up until the release of the 439D in 84 were bolted on in such a way that you couldn't remove their gongs easily plus they also stated on the front label "do not remove gong". Edwards at the time claimed that "the self adjusting feature compensates for wear" and that "your new Edwards bell is of a precision movement design" in any case the 439D actually requires you to remove the gong upon install and made such an action easy. I guess the good folks at Edwards realized that was a much better method than what the old Durabel/Adaptabels required. Cool van also Nic...you work so well at what you do that I hope you can have one of your own someday soon. Good job on-site there...the system is all ready for the BIG fire drill in early October.
Sweet! I like the long form videos. For some reason I thought the 6500 systems were from the late 60s but could've been earlier/later +/- 10 years so I'm not sure. Back when I went to middle school, they had just replaced an old 6500 and that place was built mid 1960s in Alberta so not sure. Interesting either way
What I will never understand is how other countries, city’s etc have such slow reacting bells. The ones at my grandparents activate in about half a second! I don’t understand it. The locks there work well too. They don’t need to be slammed… The ones in my building work well…. Those need to be slammed tho…. It’s weird to me…….. every place except the ones is here I live has horrible alarm pulls. In my opinion the cheap one is MS401. Bad pull station.
I agree with the fact the Quickstart is Trash. The whole thing is basically held together with duct tape and glue, figuratively speaking. Its not as bad as the EST 2 or 3 though. Those systems suck really really bad. My middle school had a faulty EST 3 system that just false alarmed all the time. Eventually the school just waited for the system to trip itself for monthly fire drills. Also, to add insult to injury, when the school did pull for drills, the system would take at least 30 seconds to trip. All in all, EST products following the EST 1 are beyond disposable (excluding the iO, genesis, or SIGA pull series).
The schools I went to didn’t have portables. I can see them definitely benefiting off of them. As for the strobes on the outside, why did they go with blue beacon looking ones instead of integrity strobes?
14:48 Why did you steal a cookie from that teacher? That reminds me of when I was younger and I was with my friend and we ate all of the cookies out of a break room, this was at my Grandpa's old work place before he retired and he was helping my friend's Dad 🤣🤣🤣
@ 18:54 in my gym, in the men’s locker room, there is a bell that was loose somewhat the gong, so what all I do is I would go up to the wall. Kick it and the bell would ring two or three times and so many kids got suspended for it. That was in my old middle school, but anyways keep up the good content.
@@nics-systems-electric Well i did not since the administration loved me, and they knew i was into alarms and all this. but they didn’t care that i did it since i was on there good side lol
He explained in a video, and the explanation was the bell cards (I don’t know how to explain bell cards) don’t activate at the same time so they don’t all sync up
Our schools fire alarm system in Pickering Ontario north of finch avenue was replaced in March of 2022 i'm wondering when are you planning to system test that fire alarm
Based on the exit signage, is this in Canada? The exit signage looks similar to that used in the UK (the green "running man" sort) as opposed to the red on white signage found in the US (and I think Canada until about 10 years ago, when I know they switched to European style exit signage). Most fire alarms in the UK make a constant noise. I believe the same used to be true in the US/Canada until the late 1990s when temporal code 3 became standard. As someone with noise sensitivity issues, I'd personally rather hear a constant two-tone sound (which is common in newer buildings in the UK) than one of the ear piercing temporal code 3 buzzers commonly found in the US, but I'd rather have an electric bell producing the temporal code 3 pattern like in this school than a constant electric bell (these are still the norm in older UK buildings built about 25+ years ago). I don't think there is any law in the UK or Europe prohibiting temporal code 3, rather there is simply no law requiring it and so alarms generally remain the same in this regard to how they were in North America prior to 1996. Some newer home smoke detectors in the UK produce the pattern if they sound, although my home smoke detectors produce a constant beeping noise. Assuming that this was filmed in Canada, do you know roughly how often this school has a fire drill? In the UK where I live they typically happen about 1-3 times a year, but I know some US states require them once a month.
Interesting. In the U.S, at least in Washington State (I live in Seattle), we only do fire drills about 2x per year, but we have to do an emergency drill every month. Those can be, Fire, Earthquake, Lockdown, or Shelter in place. Also, the majority of fire alarm devices installed here are horns, not bells. My elementary school was an old historic wood frame structure built in 1905. An addition was added in 2001, and sprinklers and an EST system were installed. (This remodel was attempted on another identical building across the city, but the building burned during the remodel!) The panel is unknown, but it has uncommon edwards integrity power saver horn strobes in red, and the “traffic cone” style smoke detectors. Pull stations are the 278 series. My middle school was a brick building built in 1966, and had a fairly recent Notifier NFS320 panel with fsp851 smokes, bg12 pull stations, and Spectralert advance white ceiling mount horn strobes. The building has no sprinklers! My current (high) school is another old historic wood frame structure from 1902, the oldest building in our school district, and an addition and sprinklers were added in 2015. The panel is an EST3 and uses the genesis series EG1-HDVM white horn strobes. the current siga smokes, and the 278 series pulls
56:58 ah as always at my high school there are the notifier bells everywhere but there is always the odd outside mircom bell that sounds just like that.
I can't speak for where you're from, but here in Minnesota its illegal to block pull stations with objects of any kind. Pull stations MUST be accessible at all times. I hope you said something to the school.
53:20 how loud are the bells in the gym i always had a fear of the bells ringing in my school gym. I was never there when it happened because I didn’t have gym class at that blocks
Not that loud at all they should probably have two bells for the size of the room it’s probably the quietest spot in the school if you’re far away from the bell
been there done that my grade 6 year and yes it would definitely startle you it was worse if you knew it was coming and we're just waiting to get a jump scare at any moment
@@nics-systems-electricthat happened to me at my school. We have est genesis horn strobes, and The principal went on the PA and said “attention patriots, we are going to do a quick test of the fire alarms inside the school, please disregard the alarms and continue working”.. And I was writing a science test… so I couldn’t go in the hall. And I was eager to hear the alarms go. And when it finally went off (just then I got focused on the test). Freaked me out man.
Wouldn't make a difference as it is zoned the same way as the sprinkler system anyways there is more than one flow switch in a building like this it's broken up into zones
Maybe I’ve never seen them in Canada though i’m thinking it was still Edward‘s as there were those old Edwards durabells and pull stations but I’m not sure what they had out in the 1960s
The siren is for the security intrusion alarm system they are very loud learned that the hard way and the lights are just showing up weird on camera they don’t actually do that
I would not be able to do good at school at all if there was some day fire alarm testing planned may be I just went home right after I founded out there is gonna be fire alarm testing but I hope no fire alarm testing today
@@VOLTRONDEFENDER4440 Of course the school has an annunciator that wouldn’t be legal if it didn’t I just don’t get what you’re saying about old systems not having them
Let me say, as much as the bells sound amazing! I have to say that this is probably the worst system ever, also like the way it is setup as well, it's terrible!
To be honest... for a stupid piece of garbage system like this, I think the best way to silence the system if it goes into alarm is to smash the panel with a sludge hammer 🤣🤣🤣
I wish bells were more common these days instead of being replaced with other horns. I love the classic sound. Nice videos! 😊
Same and thanks
18:45 I remember when people in middle school did that. In high school, the bells ring from the speakers.
@NIC'S - SYSTEM & ELECTRIC that bell in the portable is actually vibrating the exterior wall too
Yes they do that
@@nics-systems-electric it sounds a bit funny when it does that
I love the bells. Wish they were more common nowadays.
Yes they do sound nice
Extremely common in Canada
My school got horns then switched back to bells lol
That's what a fire alarm should sound like, not those "squawkers"! This is what most of the schools in Dade County, Florida, used. My high school had to use a code 5 signal, the alternate signal, because we had an elementary school within earshot of the high school's bells. The elementary school used code 3, so the high school used code 5 to avoid confusion. There were no pull-station fire alarms; the bells were manually rung from the office. Since then, the schools have been refitted with pull-station alarms.
Those bells in the portables sound really nice!
📠
Thought of you today Nic...when I was getting off the ferry at the terminal I saw an MB-24 with a label someone had stuck on it which said "Bruh I'm broken" (which is almost all the time 50% true of MB-24s til they...well break) Interesting tidbit also about the Edwards vibratory bells. The original bells they made up until the release of the 439D in 84 were bolted on in such a way that you couldn't remove their gongs easily plus they also stated on the front label "do not remove gong". Edwards at the time claimed that "the self adjusting feature compensates for wear" and that "your new Edwards bell is of a precision movement design" in any case the 439D actually requires you to remove the gong upon install and made such an action easy. I guess the good folks at Edwards realized that was a much better method than what the old Durabel/Adaptabels required. Cool van also Nic...you work so well at what you do that I hope you can have one of your own someday soon. Good job on-site there...the system is all ready for the BIG fire drill in early October.
Sweet! I like the long form videos.
For some reason I thought the 6500 systems were from the late 60s but could've been earlier/later +/- 10 years so I'm not sure. Back when I went to middle school, they had just replaced an old 6500 and that place was built mid 1960s in Alberta so not sure. Interesting either way
The pull station screw locks always have the issue of not spring back to lock properly, it’s a cheap pull station anyways
What I will never understand is how other countries, city’s etc have such slow reacting bells. The ones at my grandparents activate in about half a second! I don’t understand it. The locks there work well too. They don’t need to be slammed… The ones in my building work well…. Those need to be slammed tho…. It’s weird to me…….. every place except the ones is here I live has horrible alarm pulls. In my opinion the cheap one is MS401. Bad pull station.
Are the Mb10-24s a rebrand of the KMS-10-24? In this vid IDK which bell it is
System Sensor SSM24-10
I agree with the fact the Quickstart is Trash. The whole thing is basically held together with duct tape and glue, figuratively speaking. Its not as bad as the EST 2 or 3 though. Those systems suck really really bad. My middle school had a faulty EST 3 system that just false alarmed all the time. Eventually the school just waited for the system to trip itself for monthly fire drills. Also, to add insult to injury, when the school did pull for drills, the system would take at least 30 seconds to trip. All in all, EST products following the EST 1 are beyond disposable (excluding the iO, genesis, or SIGA pull series).
The schools I went to didn’t have portables. I can see them definitely benefiting off of them. As for the strobes on the outside, why did they go with blue beacon looking ones instead of integrity strobes?
The blue strobes are supposed to indicate what building the alarm originated from. They have to be blue
Your one of my favorite UA-camrs now
Great 1 hour long test inspection video :)
14:48 Why did you steal a cookie from that teacher? That reminds me of when I was younger and I was with my friend and we ate all of the cookies out of a break room, this was at my Grandpa's old work place before he retired and he was helping my friend's Dad 🤣🤣🤣
I think the teacher must have left them there for me
56:26 those burst of bells scared me so much
@ 18:54 in my gym, in the men’s locker room, there is a bell that was loose somewhat the gong, so what all I do is I would go up to the wall. Kick it and the bell would ring two or three times and so many kids got suspended for it. That was in my old middle school, but anyways keep up the good content.
lol how do you get suspended for that
@@nics-systems-electric Well i did not since the administration loved me, and they knew i was into alarms and all this. but they didn’t care that i did it since i was on there good side lol
@@nics-systems-electric Also check insta
@@MRIDNETGUY2004 I hate insta
@@nics-systems-electric Okay,
Are you gonna do a another fire alarm collection soon also should Canada’s fire alarms sound like UK’s
This is the longest fire alarm testing video that you've ever published
Yes it is I got a even longer one
I love the fire bell
56:27 weird bell noises
He explained in a video, and the explanation was the bell cards (I don’t know how to explain bell cards) don’t activate at the same time so they don’t all sync up
Keep up the awesome content.
Thanks
Tbh edwards makes the best bells and horns
Our schools fire alarm system in Pickering Ontario north of finch avenue was replaced in March of 2022 i'm wondering when are you planning to system test that fire alarm
don’t think that would be in my school district
First time I've seen a pull station in a restroom I'm used to seeing RSS's or NAs in a bathroom but not both a pull station and a bell
When the bathroom has a door right to outside you have to
Have you done anything else to the UPS that you installed a while ago?
No it’s still there
Nice
NICE!
Based on the exit signage, is this in Canada? The exit signage looks similar to that used in the UK (the green "running man" sort) as opposed to the red on white signage found in the US (and I think Canada until about 10 years ago, when I know they switched to European style exit signage).
Most fire alarms in the UK make a constant noise. I believe the same used to be true in the US/Canada until the late 1990s when temporal code 3 became standard. As someone with noise sensitivity issues, I'd personally rather hear a constant two-tone sound (which is common in newer buildings in the UK) than one of the ear piercing temporal code 3 buzzers commonly found in the US, but I'd rather have an electric bell producing the temporal code 3 pattern like in this school than a constant electric bell (these are still the norm in older UK buildings built about 25+ years ago). I don't think there is any law in the UK or Europe prohibiting temporal code 3, rather there is simply no law requiring it and so alarms generally remain the same in this regard to how they were in North America prior to 1996. Some newer home smoke detectors in the UK produce the pattern if they sound, although my home smoke detectors produce a constant beeping noise.
Assuming that this was filmed in Canada, do you know roughly how often this school has a fire drill? In the UK where I live they typically happen about 1-3 times a year, but I know some US states require them once a month.
Yes in Canada and minimum six drills per year
Interesting. In the U.S, at least in Washington State (I live in Seattle), we only do fire drills about 2x per year, but we have to do an emergency drill every month. Those can be, Fire, Earthquake, Lockdown, or Shelter in place. Also, the majority of fire alarm devices installed here are horns, not bells.
My elementary school was an old historic wood frame structure built in 1905. An addition was added in 2001, and sprinklers and an EST system were installed. (This remodel was attempted on another identical building across the city, but the building burned during the remodel!) The panel is unknown, but it has uncommon edwards integrity power saver horn strobes in red, and the “traffic cone” style smoke detectors. Pull stations are the 278 series.
My middle school was a brick building built in 1966, and had a fairly recent Notifier NFS320 panel with fsp851 smokes, bg12 pull stations, and Spectralert advance white ceiling mount horn strobes. The building has no sprinklers!
My current (high) school is another old historic wood frame structure from 1902, the oldest building in our school district, and an addition and sprinklers were added in 2015. The panel is an EST3 and uses the genesis series EG1-HDVM white horn strobes. the current siga smokes, and the 278 series pulls
nice video keep up the work
Thanks
What are the bells in the portables
MB 10-24 and 439D and Simplex bells of some kind
58:23 does edwards still make the durabels or no
No
@@nics-systems-electric ok
56:58 ah as always at my high school there are the notifier bells everywhere but there is always the odd outside mircom bell that sounds just like that.
I see, this one is Simplex in that specific room
I can't speak for where you're from, but here in Minnesota its illegal to block pull stations with objects of any kind. Pull stations MUST be accessible at all times. I hope you said something to the school.
Yes that is the same everywhere but you’ve got a pick your battles and they probably wouldn’t do anything about it
I'm going into high school next year :(
Nothing wrong with that
53:20 how loud are the bells in the gym i always had a fear of the bells ringing in my school gym. I was never there when it happened because I didn’t have gym class at that blocks
Not that loud at all they should probably have two bells for the size of the room it’s probably the quietest spot in the school if you’re far away from the bell
Imagine being inside a school portable when those bells go off for a fire drill. 😅
been there done that my grade 6 year and yes it would definitely startle you it was worse if you knew it was coming and we're just waiting to get a jump scare at any moment
@@nics-systems-electric yeah exactly! Scared me every time. 😂
@@nics-systems-electricthat happened to me at my school. We have est genesis horn strobes, and The principal went on the PA and said “attention patriots, we are going to do a quick test of the fire alarms inside the school, please disregard the alarms and continue working”..
And I was writing a science test… so I couldn’t go in the hall. And I was eager to hear the alarms go. And when it finally went off (just then I got focused on the test).
Freaked me out man.
It seams like maybe the panel is managed by fire lite
Huh?
@@nics-systems-electric I saw the tag on the panel but that might just be the security control
@@VOLTRONDEFENDER4440 Definitely wouldn’t be fire lite
Great I
1 hour video???????? Holy! How long did you it take to upload or edit?
Took a good couple hours to edit can’t remember about uploading I’ve got an even longer one just waiting
How could I get a job like yours?
Not sure
ok
58:23 there is a building near my school that has the same durabells let’s hope they are very durable
They seem to last pretty good
Can you do a video of all your fire alarms and your security system going off? At the same time
You wouldn’t hear anything other than the security alarm
Wow
1:8:59 its so the fireman know where it is instead of just saying flow switch
Wouldn't make a difference as it is zoned the same way as the sprinkler system anyways there is more than one flow switch in a building like this it's broken up into zones
Omg give this man life in prison he stole a cookie! 14:48 xD
Very old Middle School.
54:30 you should have replaced the whole pull station after all I really want a vintage pull station.
There’s nothing wrong with the pull station just needs a new break glass rod
@@nics-systems-electric oh ok that’s easy
How do you run the light at 18:27?
Powered off of the batteries in the backpack
@@nics-systems-electric oh, i thought it was just a regular bulb. sorry
@@J19_vlogger74 all good
What strobe is that
Which one
@@nics-systems-electricprobably the blue one
1:54 probably an autocall system or maybe IBM but probably autocall.
Maybe I’ve never seen them in Canada though i’m thinking it was still Edward‘s as there were those old Edwards durabells and pull stations but I’m not sure what they had out in the 1960s
48:58 why is there A siren in the hallway? great vid by the way and at 51:27 why was the lights having a stroke?
The siren is for the security intrusion alarm system they are very loud learned that the hard way and the lights are just showing up weird on camera they don’t actually do that
@@nics-systems-electric oh. Ok
@@nics-systems-electric wait. Is it where you got your security siren?
@@nics-systems-electric the lights flickering like that is due to the refresh rate of your camera not matching that of the LEDs on the annuacatior.
Hey Nic, what year was your last year at this school?
I’ve been gone for a few years
@@nics-systems-electric okay, so your high school doesn’t have Bells then?
@@kashtonklein4608 no i’m sure you’ve probably seen the videos of fire drills and false alarms and testing at my high school before
@@nics-systems-electric yes I have
@@kashtonklein4608 I think my last school year there was the 2019/20 year
We have code 3 Edward’s or simplex bells
cool video why the school update the fire alarm
Thanks it would have been updated when they did that renovation that I talked about to be able to add sprinkler system
I would not be able to do good at school at all if there was some day fire alarm testing planned may be I just went home right after I founded out there is gonna be fire alarm testing but I hope no fire alarm testing today
how it is code 3
show me in the video
Yes it’s code 3
@@nics-systems-electric but how did it do code 3 show me in a video fire alarm panel?
you just finished grade 11?
No going into 11
49:56 what happened to the gong
2:20
@@nics-systems-electric oh, that’s why
Slave panel silences slower than the latest announciator(I believe because old systems didn’t have announciators)
the system is only seven years old
@@nics-systems-electric but it’s old enough that announciators are not supported
@@VOLTRONDEFENDER4440 sorry I really don’t know what you’re talking about it’s a pretty new system
@@nics-systems-electric you don't know about fire alarm annunciators????
@@VOLTRONDEFENDER4440 Of course the school has an annunciator that wouldn’t be legal if it didn’t I just don’t get what you’re saying about old systems not having them
Let me say, as much as the bells sound amazing! I have to say that this is probably the worst system ever, also like the way it is setup as well, it's terrible!
Yeah the bells get the job done but that’s kinda the whole system it works barely gets the job done technically it’s all legal but cheap
Horn for class change, bell for fire alarm. Canadians... 🙄😉
The horns are all disconnected
My school uses e bells but the tech high school in my district does
🧯🔊🔥
To be honest... for a stupid piece of garbage system like this, I think the best way to silence the system if it goes into alarm is to smash the panel with a sludge hammer 🤣🤣🤣
That works too