There's no way they'd allow Victory Dance to be as OP as in Legends: Arceus. Still, being a physical equivalent of Quiver Dance isn't shabby at all. If there's a move that got the short end of the stick outta these, it's definitely Shelter - it's just Iron Defense now, but with less PP.
I'm pissed about Shelter. They really couldn't come up with ANYTHING? They might as well have deleted the move if they're going to make it the exact same thing as Iron Defense but with kess PP 😭😡 The _least_ they could've done is have it boost Defense by three stages, or have it boost Defense by one/two stages and Special Defense by one stage. But ideally, it should've acted like Protect while also boosting Defense by one stage.
@@Moss_Dude That's true but they also could've made it worse while making it distinct in some way. That makes me feel like they just didn't give it enough thought.
In Legends Arceus, the moves were more spectacular, larger and more violent. They really gave the feeling that they were going to destroy you. How disappointing they are now. It doesn't even change the animation of Giratina in its origin forme.
I mean in fairness, that was kind of the point of Legends Arceus where everything was on a much higher scale. Plus, it was the ancient past and everything was trying to kill you. There's kind of a difference in terms of tone and scale. Also the animation style is totally different.
@@SorenFE93 They are just lazy and didn't want to make the animations vien, just look at scarlet and violet and you will realize that the game is incomplete
@@redangel002 Incomplete? Perhaps. But still playable and I appreciate what they did. Arceus was a different kind of game and a wildly different aesthetic. I wouldn't call them lazy in that regard. Arceus is its own unique thing in a wide open space. So of course everything is going to be grandiose and over-the-top. When translating that into a more condensed battle system, you're not going to get too over the top. This is par for the course. Even in Sword and Shield.
@@ULTIMATZEKROM Just a bit of warning, do not send Arceus in until you got all the items for the other legendaries. Otherwise you'll be sitting there buying all of Arceus plates.
Kinda bummed that special move effects and animations that differ between user & form are gone. -Mystical Power no longer boosts based on wether the users’ offenses or defenses are higher -Bitter Malice no longer causes a status condition (cmon, why no frostbite?) -Shelter is now just worse Iron Defense -Roar of Time & Spacial Rend no longer form an Arceus energy ring around Dialga & Palkia when used in their origin forms (idk if the moves still get the power boosts or not, probably not 😑) -Shadow Force no longer has Giratina’s claws ripping through the void when used in its origin form -Springtide Storm no longer boosts Enamorous when used in its therian form In terms of model animations, it personally hurts to see Sneasler lose its jumping cross slash when it uses Dire Claw
@@JanusHoW they don't? Why would they when the galarian Meowth you get in game still evolves into perrserker, hisuian sneasel doesn't even evolve the same way as regular sneasel because they only evolve in the day instead of night
Enamorus' Hidden Ability is Contrary - which turns any stat boosts you get into stat drops, and vice versa. Also, it can learn Superpower. I am almost certain it's going to freaking wreck in multiplayer.
That “different animation” is literally just the cinematic camera which you can toggle on with the L button as long as the terrain won’t obstruct the fixed view
Just imagine if Shelter had priority so unlike Iron Defence, Shelter would basically always go first. Like seriously, Shelter is currently, *LITERALLY* Iron Defence, so atleast giving it priority would've made it different enough.
i feel like they changed the side effect of hisuian zoroark bitter malice so it's not anymore a copy of hisuian typhlosion's move, becaus in legend, apart from what effect they give, it was kinda the same move
@@darklord-uz1rm And it is a crime for devs to make it a different secondary effect compared to sandsear and wildbolt storms, as they can electrocute and burn respectively if successful
WAIT. There's a bug/issue with changed abilities from older games! And other minor problems...why can't they just leave us alone and avoid changing everything every damn time. Be careful before the update and transferring!
Hey, how do you obtain any of the Arceus plates? Also, I transferred in a Hisuian Qwilfish and Hisuian Basculin, do you know how I'd go about evolving them?!
@@jakobywardwardjakoby9507 Also they removed the "style" requirement since there's no styles in SV So just like Annihilape, you just have to use a set move 20 times - Psyshield Bash for Stantler and Barb Barrage for Hisuian Qwilfish
@@slow_mk8 no you are very very very wrong. Maybe look on serebii before spreading misinformation. Hisuian Qwilfish AND Stantler CANNOT EVOLVE IN SV. WHITE BASCULIN CAN.
Isn't the battling is, like, the MAIN feature of the game?? Why don't make a proper animation for the moves when 90% of the game is about Pokémon battles?
@ultmewtwo No??? At those levels max IVs (31) decidueye-hisui gets outsped by Lycanroc with only 20 ivs in speed if there are no other factors like evs or natures. Decidueye with 133 speed, Lycanroc with 134
@@dwightdeisenhower53 Forme is a French word, so u are right about being fancy. They are legendary anyway, even their forms are better distinct from the normal one.
Just goes to show that we pay too much money for too little. At least give us some custom animations. But no. Two games later. Two DLCs later. Waiting in Pokemon HOME later. Pokemon is STEALING our money at this point, why do we accept these blatantly bad practices.
Fun fact: before the game updated you could actually use these moves by using metronome (of course it’s a very small chance)
Victory Dance got robbed
There's no way they'd allow Victory Dance to be as OP as in Legends: Arceus.
Still, being a physical equivalent of Quiver Dance isn't shabby at all.
If there's a move that got the short end of the stick outta these, it's definitely Shelter - it's just Iron Defense now, but with less PP.
Yeah the animation sucks ass now lol
@@togechicku4997 I'm pretty sure it has priority
WHAT IS GAMEFREAK'S OBSSESION WITH THOSE DUMB HOPS??????
They ruined so many moves
I knew shelter wasn't going to retain its awesomeness. Defense boost plus evasion would be nuts. It's ok Goodra we'll get em' next time.
They done did my boy kleavor dirty. It's so lazy. I loved it when he put his two hand axes together
I'm pissed about Shelter. They really couldn't come up with ANYTHING? They might as well have deleted the move if they're going to make it the exact same thing as Iron Defense but with kess PP 😭😡
The _least_ they could've done is have it boost Defense by three stages, or have it boost Defense by one/two stages and Special Defense by one stage. But ideally, it should've acted like Protect while also boosting Defense by one stage.
Maybe it was intentionally made to be worse, since Hisuian Goodra is already extremely strong defensively
@@Moss_Dude That's true but they also could've made it worse while making it distinct in some way. That makes me feel like they just didn't give it enough thought.
Bro the one stage defense protect sounds brilliant damn missed opportunity
@@Blessedheathan Noooooo that would be broken as all hell
Or 2 def boost and healing from status effects like burn, para
In Legends Arceus, the moves were more spectacular, larger and more violent. They really gave the feeling that they were going to destroy you. How disappointing they are now. It doesn't even change the animation of Giratina in its origin forme.
100%
It's Scarlet and Violet, a incomplete game
I mean in fairness, that was kind of the point of Legends Arceus where everything was on a much higher scale. Plus, it was the ancient past and everything was trying to kill you. There's kind of a difference in terms of tone and scale. Also the animation style is totally different.
@@SorenFE93 They are just lazy and didn't want to make the animations vien, just look at scarlet and violet and you will realize that the game is incomplete
@@redangel002 Incomplete? Perhaps. But still playable and I appreciate what they did. Arceus was a different kind of game and a wildly different aesthetic. I wouldn't call them lazy in that regard. Arceus is its own unique thing in a wide open space. So of course everything is going to be grandiose and over-the-top. When translating that into a more condensed battle system, you're not going to get too over the top. This is par for the course. Even in Sword and Shield.
They did the Creation Trio dirty by removing the difference between Altered and Origin Formes for their signature moves 💀
Really nice to see them all in this game. Damn can't wait for dlc now so execited.
They've really gotta put an option in the settings to turn on longer move animations so they can go back to their superior form
I really love Legend Samurott's special move
Judgment is different, but it’s still a very cool move!
Can't help but wonder how we're gonna be able to turn Palkia and Dialga into their Origins forms
You get the items from a special bidder in Porto Marinada.
@@MikeTheEnforcer gotcha thanks
@@ULTIMATZEKROM Just a bit of warning, do not send Arceus in until you got all the items for the other legendaries. Otherwise you'll be sitting there buying all of Arceus plates.
@@MikeTheEnforcer how many plates are there? 17 or 18?.
As if they were the most iconic and unforgettable forms...please XD
I really like the signature moves of the ancient starters because their moves have various effects all at once
Perfect music choice.
Kinda bummed that special move effects and animations that differ between user & form are gone.
-Mystical Power no longer boosts based on wether the users’ offenses or defenses are higher
-Bitter Malice no longer causes a status condition (cmon, why no frostbite?)
-Shelter is now just worse Iron Defense
-Roar of Time & Spacial Rend no longer form an Arceus energy ring around Dialga & Palkia when used in their origin forms (idk if the moves still get the power boosts or not, probably not 😑)
-Shadow Force no longer has Giratina’s claws ripping through the void when used in its origin form
-Springtide Storm no longer boosts Enamorous when used in its therian form
In terms of model animations, it personally hurts to see Sneasler lose its jumping cross slash when it uses Dire Claw
triple arrows do be OP
The fact many legendaries that never got signatures move now has is making me so happy, though in Scarlet Violet they are tone down, sad.
The animation in Legends arceus is really better😔
Sneasler waa my unexpected mvp in legends arceus so ill definitely transfer it and a few hisuian sneasel over
@@JanusHoW they don't? Why would they when the galarian Meowth you get in game still evolves into perrserker, hisuian sneasel doesn't even evolve the same way as regular sneasel because they only evolve in the day instead of night
@@JanusHoW how? That’s like if an Alolan Rattata evolved into Kantonian Raticate just because it’s not in Alola anymore lmao
@@JanusHoW me when I spread obvious misinformation
Enamorus' Hidden Ability is Contrary - which turns any stat boosts you get into stat drops, and vice versa. Also, it can learn Superpower.
I am almost certain it's going to freaking wreck in multiplayer.
I wish it got more moves to abuse contrary
Maybe make its signature move the fairy equivalent of leaf storm
Add in that it's slow too making it nice on trick room teams
@@jamesgiles4517 That would be Magearna's signature move. LOL
@@notshockwavedemon7543 oh right I forgot
Maybe the fairy equivalent of make it rain?
Doesn't it only work once when it comes to using moves to buff your mons.
Shelter got robbed. It's now just Acid Armor but with less PP.
What makes it worse, Hgoodra also gets Acid Armor
If you think about it, aren’t these the real paradox Pokémon?
To some extent
You should show them in proper trainer battles since some moves have different animations for wild and trainer battles, like Aqua Step.
If u push the L Button u van set the câmera to " trainer câmera "
That “different animation” is literally just the cinematic camera which you can toggle on with the L button as long as the terrain won’t obstruct the fixed view
Esper Wing can be devastating.
Roar of time and spacial rend are not new or "ancient" moves. They have been around since gen 4.
Just imagine if Shelter had priority so unlike Iron Defence, Shelter would basically always go first.
Like seriously, Shelter is currently, *LITERALLY* Iron Defence, so atleast giving it priority would've made it different enough.
or act as a protect with a 1-stage defense buff
I think that the moves look way cooler on their respective game
Doesn’t deciduye I have an ability where can hit ghost types
Yup, hisuian one gets scrappy.
Yup, great for dealing with Gholdengo
0:40 the best starter for last
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i feel like they changed the side effect of hisuian zoroark bitter malice so it's not anymore a copy of hisuian typhlosion's move, becaus in legend, apart from what effect they give, it was kinda the same move
Same thing with Qwilfish's signature move, innit?
Raging Fury
Basically Fire Type Outrage
Another reminder to go back to playing Legends Arceus instead
Bleakwind Storm gets a lower speed makes no sense, freezing condition would have been a better secondary effect for this novel this is illegal
Lowering speed is actually nice due to freeze being most if not all 10% while lowering speed can be higher chances of happening
@@darklord-uz1rm And it is a crime for devs to make it a different secondary effect compared to sandsear and wildbolt storms, as they can electrocute and burn respectively if successful
Freeze is unfair condition tbh compared to burn and paralyzed Unless they change how it works like in PLA
But i get your point
@@rizkidary837 they should just replace freeze with frostbite
Guys my palkia and dialga have those moves in BD but as i took them to violet they didnt have their signature moves anymore how do i get them back?
Giratina could’ve used an animation lol
Victory dance and bitter malice got robbed
All of the genies I transferred over except e amour us didn’t lead their storm moves
The first pokémon I sent to Paldea was my favorite Hisuian form, Arcanine.
Mine was Eternatus.
You see that the budget didn't go for the moves animation.
Is it just me or does hisuian Braviary look like he’s been doing drugs? His colors r kinda distorted if u look closely enough
Cool
Are Alpha Pokémon still big are are they all the same general size?
I'm asking the same question lol because I have an Alpha Ursaluna that I want to transfer over.
I think theyre the max size in game and get the ex alpha mark so js transfer it my guy
@@xx0qCool, thanks for the info!
@@abivalentin8331 👍
Alphas are not as big in sc as they are in legends, but they have their size set to the max that their species can be in the game
WAIT. There's a bug/issue with changed abilities from older games! And other minor problems...why can't they just leave us alone and avoid changing everything every damn time. Be careful before the update and transferring!
Is the legend Plat and the red a blue orbs in scvt ?
The animation downgrade makes me disappointed
What is that music background?
These fps burns my eyes
Hey, how do you obtain any of the Arceus plates?
Also, I transferred in a Hisuian Qwilfish and Hisuian Basculin, do you know how I'd go about evolving them?!
You get the arcues plates from the biddings
I don’t think you can evolve thoses Pokémon in SV. But idk never tried it.
@@MrChREAL the evolution requirment for them still stands, so i think you use barb barrage 20 times and hisuian basculin should take 294 damage still
@@jakobywardwardjakoby9507 hisuian basculin can't faint at all either
@@jakobywardwardjakoby9507 Also they removed the "style" requirement since there's no styles in SV
So just like Annihilape, you just have to use a set move 20 times - Psyshield Bash for Stantler and Barb Barrage for Hisuian Qwilfish
@@slow_mk8 no you are very very very wrong. Maybe look on serebii before spreading misinformation.
Hisuian Qwilfish AND Stantler CANNOT EVOLVE IN SV. WHITE BASCULIN CAN.
“What if we brought the moves over but did them worse”
What happened to Judgement 😂😂
How come battle revolution had better animations?
Because it was made by a different team/company
Preach it
Isn't the battling is, like, the MAIN feature of the game?? Why don't make a proper animation for the moves when 90% of the game is about Pokémon battles?
What's the name of the song playing in the second part of the video
elite 4 theme
👍
How did you change the battle music while playing?
He's Mixeli. He can modify the music when showcasing things. Like the secret Prof. Oak battle via glitch in RBY, he made custom music for that.
Lucky
Why did the gen 7 grass starter get out speed bye a pokemon who's level is in the 30s?
Did you get bad speed IVS
Lycanroc has almost double base speed
@@o-poppoo5117 level also matter to I can't see it out speed it unless his pokemon got bad base speed IV
@ultmewtwo No??? At those levels max IVs (31) decidueye-hisui gets outsped by Lycanroc with only 20 ivs in speed if there are no other factors like evs or natures.
Decidueye with 133 speed, Lycanroc with 134
Wait you can get the Lord pokemon?
Im still confused as to why slither wings dosent get victory dance
It would be so powerful
@@notshockwavedemon7543 it would be in ou at most. besides that's what I want
These animations are...lazy....Arceus had more life than this...
Do they still have ALPHA height ? Or just regular height ?
They just get their species' max height when transfered over, but they get a "alpha" mark to show they were originally alphas
Legends Arceus moves animation did it better.
why do they call em formes instead of forms anyway
Form is used for normal mon's, while Forme is used for the legendary mon.
@@ruscygunche so basically they make it sound fancy by adding an e (like bri*ish)
@@dwightdeisenhower53 Forme is a French word, so u are right about being fancy. They are legendary anyway, even their forms are better distinct from the normal one.
Scarlet and Violet wants to be a better version of Legends but they aren't
Calling them ancient moves goes hard
Damn dialga got the worst animation out of the three 😢😢
Shelter. Look how thew massacred my boy
I thought they changed judgement animation... It looks so disappointing in SV
Just goes to show that we pay too much money for too little. At least give us some custom animations. But no.
Two games later.
Two DLCs later.
Waiting in Pokemon HOME later.
Pokemon is STEALING our money at this point, why do we accept these blatantly bad practices.
I love how they ruined the Decidueyes' animations. Decidai????? What the hell is the plural for them XD?
So many delta pokemon
Why does the game look this beautiful in this video ?
This game
Is so bad I’m sorry
These animations look so lazy