Hi Kyle Thank you for your video so I can adjust my durolux. Btw I have an issue, after I made my durolux become 150 mm there is some slightly little movement up&down on the stanchion & the lower and it can pull with my hand. Do you have any experience how to fix that issue? Thanks
It was interesting that you release the air pressure after taking the lower legs off while Suntour's video guide us otherwise.. Was there any reason behind it?
No not really any reason. You can do it either way. I am just trained to do it that way because I will regularly clean and lube my lowers during the race season and I just leave the air pressure in tact when i do that.
The bike I just purchased came with a SR Suntour XCM HLO DS, 100mm Travel fork. The Suntour website says the fork has 80/100/120mm travel. Norco states that it has "100mm of adjustable travel". My question is, can I adjust my travel to 120mm, or is the 120mm version a completely different fork?
Very helpful tut, thx! Kyle, I would appreciate it if you maybe could advise something on my matter- could it be that I somehow damage the rebound while unscrewing this rebound fixing nut (on the lower part), on my fork it was so tight - I've barely managed to unscrew it. And now for some reason lockout doesn't work and rebound also not good. The fork is new and I was doing zero ts right out of the box, so doesn't test it beforehand. And now I'm wondering - is it my fault, or maybe there is no oil in the rebound chamber... so is there any oil to begin with? How on earth could I broke something by unscrewing some external nut ...
Dima Kustov man! That is a bummer, the only thing I could think is that maybe the oil needs to get recirculated in the damper so maybe just cycle it a few more times? I’m sure you’ve probably tried everything at this point but that’s all I can think of. Is it an 8mm style Allen or a 10mm wrench style bottom but?
Wouldn't you know I would run into Kyle and April while trying to install and dial in my new Suntour suspension. Hi Kyle and April! 😁 I just received the new Durolux 36 and Triair shock after a long wait. Apparently the forks have been on backorder thanks to the COVID thing going on. Any suggestions or tips for getting the suspension super dialed and keeping it well maintained? My first experience with the new Pcs systems but long time user of Suntour product line. Any trick to the grease and air vent pipcocks or how and when to use them? Sounds like the making of another video maybe. I look forward to seeing April getting greasy. 😉 Appreciate your input. Later guys.
My Aion says it can go from 150 to 140 or 160. I assume there is a spacer in there that I would remove to go to 160? Thanks for any info you can provide.
Hi Kyle, thanks for your video! Seems like an easy procedure. Is it possible to lower the travel of a SF18Durolux36 Boost R2C2 PCS to 130-140mm with 3 to 4 spacers? I really like the idea of having a mid travel fork with the stiffness of the Durolux on my 29er Banshee Phantom. Thanks for you help!
@@AprilRideMTB Cool,thanks for your reply! Travel is now at 130 with 4 spacers. Really looking forward to ride that thing. Stancions measure approx. 145mm, wondering if the difference is completely the bottom out?
Hey holger, on the Durolux stock with zero spacers is 180 mm so with four spacers you would be at 1:40 mm, if you had five spacers you would be at 1:30 mm
Hi Kyle just wanna ask if the stance 29 2 2022 can use the SR Suntour Durolux. and if my bike frame will be safe specially the headtube. or do I need to lower the fork to 150mm? Thanks,
Great work! So after that, I can replace the fork on the bike where is 150mm travel. Does the fork becomes "smaller"? Or you'll just bottom out the fork sooner?
When you install the travel reducing spacers it does shorten the axle to crown measurement. If you put 20mm of spacers in the fork will be 20mm shorter axle to crown height as well. So yeah it does become smaller
Hey! So all you would need is a total of 20mm or 30mm of spacers to reduce the travel. I just filmed a full service video that should be uploaded next week!
Instead of reducing the the travel, why not just increase the pressure in the fork to run it at the correct sag for a 150mm fork? That way the extra travel would still be available in the event you were to use 150mm, but the fork would still behave like a 150mm fork otherwise. Am I missing something here? I don’t understand the purpose of decreasing the travel when you could just do this.
Hey Francis, Sorry for the delay, they can be set at 140mm but i dont think the spacers come in the box with the fork. I have found small plastic tubes at my local hardware store that will fit though. I will try to find the best link to buy them
@@AprilRideMTB Hey Kyle, no need to apologize. Appreciate the feedback. Yeah, please do let us know if there are good alternatives to the spacers; it's tough to source them locally.
I have sr axon 120mm. im planning to adjust it to 100mm. do I need a spacer to adjust it on that model? and where can I purchase those spacers? thanks.
Hey Marco, Yeah if you want to adjust it to 100mm all you will need is a 20mm spacer. You can either call your countries SR Suntour service center and order two 10mm spacers. If you have a hard time tracking them down let me know and I will get you sorted! I have also made some spacers in the past with the correct sized plastic spacers from my local hardware store. Send me a message if you need more help
PM racing it depends if the fork has been worked on before. If it’s stock then you shouldn’t have to but a lot of shops and home mechanics will add 5-10cc of oil that you may have to look out for
Please, do the videos without the stupid background music. I could barely hear what you were saying in the first 20-30 seconds. It makes it too hard to bother with, which I'm sure wasn't your intention.
Those are spacers direct from SR Suntour but I have found alternatives at my local hardware store using some plastic washers with a cut just big enough to go over the rod.
@@AprilRideMTB hey bro I couldn't find any spacers here in my area, what type of plastic washers did you buy on your local hardware? also if i can use a water tubing if i couldn't find what you'll be suggesting to me. Thankssss broo
Yeah you are totally right on most forks, however the SR Suntour forks use a teflon coated bushing which allows you to run less or no oil. usually I will put 5ccs in each leg just to have something but it isn't necessary for the fork to function properly
Hey Kyle, I have a Suntour Auron 34 fork, have also seen another video doing the exact same as you, mine is 140mm and I want to increase it to 160mm! My concern is that i have read somewhere that their fork used to lose air and some weird mumbo jumbo, do I have any danger of having this issue? (imo this isnt a probability cause you dont mess with the air stuff you just remove two spacers and put it back on it has nothing to do with the piston assembly for example) here is the link: forums.mtbr.com/shocks-suspension/suntour-auron-trouble-after-travel-adjustment-1115219.html
Yeah you should be fine, I would just remove the spacers, re assemble the negative spring assembly and then put like 10 psi in the air chamber. That piston has a designated seat for the travel rod and you will get it to kind of click into place when it’s centered. Chances are that person has it crooked and was pushing the piston at an angle
@@AprilRideMTB After a bit I did it! The fork is holding air, but I have some concerns and want some more technical opinions! My Auron had some ccs of oil in it but f.e yours didnt... I added some lighter oi inside and some ccs (very little) of normal olive oil🤣🤣 will not corrode as oil doesnt corrode and it was little so no concerns there. Next up how much pressure should I put? I have a crapped up wrist from a crash atm so cant really cycle it but the 70 psi i had before need to be increased as it sogs the fork bag to 140mm again! I have 120psi right now in but is that too high/low? Im close to 70kg or 150ish lbs and I mainly ride enduro/downhilly trails, whats you opinion?
@@FotisVoutsas what i would do is let the air out, take the top cap off with a 27mm socket, take all of the volume spacers out aside from 1, then reinflate to around 85 psi and see how that feels. Any more than 90 on that fork and you will get a really annoying top out noise
@@AprilRideMTB hmmm ok I will try that, I will see if there are any in there, but the thing could be just because (if you read the first comment) from a 140 fork i increased it to a 160 so the same air pressure probably wouldnt support the 160 and it dives right back in... on the other hand I could see when my hand allows it to wear my gear and check for 20 to 30 percent sag as right now the fork feels too firm, yes 100-120 feels too much for enduro🤣🤣 Havent messed with the volume spacers though, I only removed two chips from the left spring... maybe could check how much it sags with my weight around 90psi and move from there... its just that 90 psi would support 140mm but in the same setup a 160 would just not have enough air... idk I might be wrong
www.srsuntour.us/collections/fork-parts/products/air-fork-travel-spacer
I really like how easy that fork is to work on, maintain, and the travel options are a bonus. I might have to switch up my fork now
Hope you have been good colby!
This was exactly the video I was looking for. I want to make this with mine.
Awesome! Glad to help!
Thanks for this.
Hi Kyle
Thank you for your video so I can adjust my durolux.
Btw I have an issue, after I made my durolux become 150 mm there is some slightly little movement up&down on the stanchion & the lower and it can pull with my hand. Do you have any experience how to fix that issue?
Thanks
It was interesting that you release the air pressure after taking the lower legs off while Suntour's video guide us otherwise.. Was there any reason behind it?
No not really any reason. You can do it either way. I am just trained to do it that way because I will regularly clean and lube my lowers during the race season and I just leave the air pressure in tact when i do that.
@@AprilRideMTB thanks for the explanation.. but how about when adding/removing volume spacers? Does the same principle also apply?
The bike I just purchased came with a SR Suntour XCM HLO DS, 100mm Travel fork. The Suntour website says the fork has 80/100/120mm travel. Norco states that it has "100mm of adjustable travel". My question is, can I adjust my travel to 120mm, or is the 120mm version a completely different fork?
You should be able to adjust it but if you call Envelo - www.envelo.cc/ they should be able to run your serial number and tell you for sure!
@@AprilRideMTB Awsome thanks!
Very helpful tut, thx!
Kyle, I would appreciate it if you maybe could advise something on my matter- could it be that I somehow damage the rebound while unscrewing this rebound fixing nut (on the lower part), on my fork it was so tight - I've barely managed to unscrew it. And now for some reason lockout doesn't work and rebound also not good. The fork is new and I was doing zero ts right out of the box, so doesn't test it beforehand. And now I'm wondering - is it my fault, or maybe there is no oil in the rebound chamber... so is there any oil to begin with? How on earth could I broke something by unscrewing some external nut ...
Dima Kustov man! That is a bummer, the only thing I could think is that maybe the oil needs to get recirculated in the damper so maybe just cycle it a few more times? I’m sure you’ve probably tried everything at this point but that’s all I can think of. Is it an 8mm style Allen or a 10mm wrench style bottom but?
@@AprilRideMTB it's 10mm wrench side, under the rebound cap. Well, the only thing I didn't try yet is disassembling the rebound mechanism itself, ((
Hey there quick question. I have the Radion with 120mm can I extend it to 140mm?
Hey Sorry for the delay! if you call or email Envelo - ( www.envelo.cc/ ) they should be able to run your serial number and tell you for sure!
Wouldn't you know I would run into Kyle and April while trying to install and dial in my new Suntour suspension. Hi Kyle and April! 😁 I just received the new Durolux 36 and Triair shock after a long wait. Apparently the forks have been on backorder thanks to the COVID thing going on. Any suggestions or tips for getting the suspension super dialed and keeping it well maintained? My first experience with the new Pcs systems but long time user of Suntour product line. Any trick to the grease and air vent pipcocks or how and when to use them? Sounds like the making of another video maybe. I look forward to seeing April getting greasy. 😉 Appreciate your input. Later guys.
My Aion says it can go from 150 to 140 or 160. I assume there is a spacer in there that I would remove to go to 160? Thanks for any info you can provide.
Yeah that is correct. You will have a spacer in there and once you remove it the fork will be at 160mm.
Nice tutorial bro. Is that spacer also can use to Auron? Could you provide us the link where to buy spacers online?
Hey I am so sorry I missed this reply. Yeah they work across the auron, aion, durolux, and rux.
You should be able to get them at SRSUNTOUR.us
На моей вилке штанга толщиной 10мм, а спейсеры с внутренним диаметром 8мм. Пришлось использовать спейсеры от вилки manitou mattoc
Hi Kyle, thanks for your video! Seems like an easy procedure. Is it possible to lower the travel of a SF18Durolux36 Boost R2C2 PCS to 130-140mm with 3 to 4 spacers? I really like the idea of having a mid travel fork with the stiffness of the Durolux on my 29er Banshee Phantom. Thanks for you help!
Holger Bredehorst hey holger! Yeah you can go all the way down to 120 in my experience!
@@AprilRideMTB Cool,thanks for your reply! Travel is now at 130 with 4 spacers. Really looking forward to ride that thing. Stancions measure approx. 145mm, wondering if the difference is completely the bottom out?
Hey holger, on the Durolux stock with zero spacers is 180 mm so with four spacers you would be at 1:40 mm, if you had five spacers you would be at 1:30 mm
Hi Kyle just wanna ask if the stance 29 2 2022 can use the SR Suntour Durolux. and if my bike frame will be safe specially the headtube. or do I need to lower the fork to 150mm? Thanks,
Hi Kyle, thanks for the video, do you know if this method will work on a Sr Suntour Nex P-700C with 63mm travel?
Hey! I believe that since the NEX fork is a coil fork instead of air, this will not work the same.
Great video thanks but background music is to loud.
Great work! So after that, I can replace the fork on the bike where is 150mm travel. Does the fork becomes "smaller"? Or you'll just bottom out the fork sooner?
When you install the travel reducing spacers it does shorten the axle to crown measurement. If you put 20mm of spacers in the fork will be 20mm shorter axle to crown height as well. So yeah it does become smaller
@@AprilRideMTB Thank you very much Kyle. That's what I thought but, I wanted to be sure before a buy.
Hello @Kyle from Honduras, we have a raideon, and we are look to set fro 120mm to 90 or 100, how we can do and what we need?
Hey! So all you would need is a total of 20mm or 30mm of spacers to reduce the travel. I just filmed a full service video that should be uploaded next week!
Instead of reducing the the travel, why not just increase the pressure in the fork to run it at the correct sag for a 150mm fork? That way the extra travel would still be available in the event you were to use 150mm, but the fork would still behave like a 150mm fork otherwise. Am I missing something here? I don’t understand the purpose of decreasing the travel when you could just do this.
Just wondering what travel do you have for your durolux on your marin dj bike? How many travel adjuster did u use?
Hey Kyle. Would you know if the newer Durolux forks can be set at 140mm? Do the spacers come in the box with the fork?
Hey Francis, Sorry for the delay, they can be set at 140mm but i dont think the spacers come in the box with the fork. I have found small plastic tubes at my local hardware store that will fit though. I will try to find the best link to buy them
@@AprilRideMTB Hi Kyles please post those hardware alternative clips/spacers. It's quite hard to look for those spacers.
@@AprilRideMTB Hey Kyle, no need to apologize. Appreciate the feedback. Yeah, please do let us know if there are good alternatives to the spacers; it's tough to source them locally.
Just want to ask if where to get that spacer for adjusting the travel..? I want to make mine a little bit ahorter too..
I have sr axon 120mm. im planning to adjust it to 100mm. do I need a spacer to adjust it on that model? and where can I purchase those spacers? thanks.
Hey Marco, Yeah if you want to adjust it to 100mm all you will need is a 20mm spacer. You can either call your countries SR Suntour service center and order two 10mm spacers. If you have a hard time tracking them down let me know and I will get you sorted! I have also made some spacers in the past with the correct sized plastic spacers from my local hardware store. Send me a message if you need more help
I have a 32 mm sr suntour 120mm travel can i convert 120mm to 140mm or 150mm ?
Hey Wang! check the suntour website in our description and it should tell you based on the model of the fork!
So i dont have to release oil from lowers ?
PM racing it depends if the fork has been worked on before. If it’s stock then you shouldn’t have to but a lot of shops and home mechanics will add 5-10cc of oil that you may have to look out for
is there any way to adjust travel on a single spring xcm fork?
Hey Kaleb, Honestly I am not 100% sure but if you reach out to the SRSuntour customer service line they are usually really helpful!
Can I convert my 140mm suntour aion to 150mm or 160mm?
yeah you should be able too by just removing spacers
Kyle & April - Ride Mtb cool thanks!
My aion came set at 160mm. Should be a-ok to extend it
Those spacers came with the fork or you got them after market?
They didnt come with the fork but they should be available through a local dealer or directly through SR Suntour!
@@AprilRideMTB ohh good! Finally I bought one and decided to keep the 18mm of travel, it's great so far!
is it the same procedure for the last 29 "boost model?
Yeah! Exactly the same steps!
@@AprilRideMTB thx 🤘
Please, do the videos without the stupid background music. I could barely hear what you were saying in the first 20-30 seconds. It makes it too hard to bother with, which I'm sure wasn't your intention.
Yeah this was very early on in me learning how to make videos. I have learned a lot over the years and try to do it a little better know haha
hi, I was wondering if the whole process you just did would be the same for a radion fork 34mm.
Where to buy travel adjusters?
They should be available directly through SR Suntour or through a local dealer contacting them
@@AprilRideMTB thanks
What type of spacers are those?
Those are spacers direct from SR Suntour but I have found alternatives at my local hardware store using some plastic washers with a cut just big enough to go over the rod.
@@AprilRideMTB hey bro I couldn't find any spacers here in my area, what type of plastic washers did you buy on your local hardware? also if i can use a water tubing if i couldn't find what you'll be suggesting to me. Thankssss broo
I think so you have to add oil...
Yeah you are totally right on most forks, however the SR Suntour forks use a teflon coated bushing which allows you to run less or no oil. usually I will put 5ccs in each leg just to have something but it isn't necessary for the fork to function properly
Hey Kyle, I have a Suntour Auron 34 fork, have also seen another video doing the exact same as you, mine is 140mm and I want to increase it to 160mm! My concern is that i have read somewhere that their fork used to lose air and some weird mumbo jumbo, do I have any danger of having this issue? (imo this isnt a probability cause you dont mess with the air stuff you just remove two spacers and put it back on it has nothing to do with the piston assembly for example)
here is the link: forums.mtbr.com/shocks-suspension/suntour-auron-trouble-after-travel-adjustment-1115219.html
Yeah you should be fine, I would just remove the spacers, re assemble the negative spring assembly and then put like 10 psi in the air chamber. That piston has a designated seat for the travel rod and you will get it to kind of click into place when it’s centered. Chances are that person has it crooked and was pushing the piston at an angle
@@AprilRideMTB Thank you very much! I will move forward and try the adjustemnt then!
@@AprilRideMTB After a bit I did it! The fork is holding air, but I have some concerns and want some more technical opinions! My Auron had some ccs of oil in it but f.e yours didnt... I added some lighter oi inside and some ccs (very little) of normal olive oil🤣🤣 will not corrode as oil doesnt corrode and it was little so no concerns there. Next up how much pressure should I put? I have a crapped up wrist from a crash atm so cant really cycle it but the 70 psi i had before need to be increased as it sogs the fork bag to 140mm again! I have 120psi right now in but is that too high/low? Im close to 70kg or 150ish lbs and I mainly ride enduro/downhilly trails, whats you opinion?
@@FotisVoutsas what i would do is let the air out, take the top cap off with a 27mm socket, take all of the volume spacers out aside from 1, then reinflate to around 85 psi and see how that feels. Any more than 90 on that fork and you will get a really annoying top out noise
@@AprilRideMTB hmmm ok I will try that, I will see if there are any in there, but the thing could be just because (if you read the first comment) from a 140 fork i increased it to a 160 so the same air pressure probably wouldnt support the 160 and it dives right back in... on the other hand I could see when my hand allows it to wear my gear and check for 20 to 30 percent sag as right now the fork feels too firm, yes 100-120 feels too much for enduro🤣🤣
Havent messed with the volume spacers though, I only removed two chips from the left spring... maybe could check how much it sags with my weight around 90psi and move from there... its just that 90 psi would support 140mm but in the same setup a 160 would just not have enough air... idk I might be wrong