Suntour XCM Fork Service - Disassemble/Clean/Lube/Re-assemble

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  • Опубліковано 12 тра 2019
  • I show how to tear down, clean, lubricate and rebuild Suntour XCM (SF11-XCM-V3) forks/shocks. Periodic maintenance will help prolong the life of the fork and maintain performance. Basic service to keep your suspension working and from becoming stiff or frozen. I bought this fork on craigslist for $20. The XCM fork models have varied over the years. This fork is a SF11-XCM-V3-DS-PM-26-120.
    There are different versions of XCM forks. This is an SF11. If yours has a lockout, you have a different version. You might check out my video overhauling an XCR fork that has a lockout:
    • Suntour XCR Fork Servi...
    Suntour XCT Fork Service:
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    * Use grease made for forks. I use Slickoleum which is also sold under the name Slick Honey. You can also use SRAM Butter or Judy Butter. If the fork uses oil, use the proper fork oil. Use of a grease/oil not made specifically for forks can damage the plastic/polyurethane parts, or otherwise leave the fork not working properly.
    Slickoleum 15oz:
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    Slickoleum 4oz:
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    Suntour fork cap tools:
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  • @finnrachul3529
    @finnrachul3529 3 роки тому +87

    This channel single-handedly keeps mechanic grease companies in business

    • @s.sradon9782
      @s.sradon9782 2 роки тому +3

      The family heirloom lube can is still mostly full.

    • @Startekselva
      @Startekselva 2 роки тому

      True words

  • @jasonhorsman1436
    @jasonhorsman1436 2 роки тому +3

    ... The bike shop says they are disposable forks, but so long as you can get the parts - they will ride again! Looks much easier than I expected too. Thank you

  • @donhoe100
    @donhoe100 4 місяці тому +1

    Good job describing how to do this job! Even someone who has never touched a wrench would understand this!

  • @r.davies2702
    @r.davies2702 4 роки тому +58

    Probably the best, most concise, informative vid there is on stripping these forks. Thanks 👌

    • @smielyface0258
      @smielyface0258 2 роки тому +2

      Definitely.

    • @josephforcino8099
      @josephforcino8099 2 роки тому

      Are there adjustments on those forks. I got a bike with mozo m30 forks and there dosen't seem to be any adjustments.

    • @r.davies2702
      @r.davies2702 2 роки тому +1

      @@josephforcino8099 No, not really. You can adjust the preload, but in reality it makes very little difference. These are a cheap, made for purpose fork. They'll hold your front wheel on but don't expect any more than that.

    • @davidbea3711
      @davidbea3711 Рік тому +2

      @@r.davies2702 more like 'made for looks'... unless 'deception' was the purpose 🙉

  • @pfendi
    @pfendi 4 роки тому +50

    Thank you RJ! Fixed my choppy action and leaky seals myself with this tutorial! Keep doing what you are doing, it truly helps!!

  • @4plum
    @4plum 3 роки тому +10

    Had a different fork, but the principles contained here helped a lot in doing a full service, and getting some movement back in my previously stuck fork.

  • @jiaqint961
    @jiaqint961 5 років тому +42

    Just happen I need this video today, and you've uploaded on the same day, Amazing.

  • @Brat0077n
    @Brat0077n 3 роки тому +5

    Thanks so much!!! I ordered the repair kit from Suntour and everything I needed except your instruction was in the package. Dang! I forgot what suspension was supposed to feel like!! Much appreciated.

  • @simonbailey2151
    @simonbailey2151 4 роки тому +7

    Cracking video, as always, many thanks RJ. Your attention to detail and excellent editing are very much appreciated. I‘ll be tackling my forks tomorrow! Cheers, Simon

  • @bikestrike3246
    @bikestrike3246 4 роки тому +1

    Best suntour fork service I've ever seen. Love your work RJ

  • @dalebest7842
    @dalebest7842 4 роки тому +2

    BIG THANKS RJ done overhaul on suntour xcm, from total seized fully striped down to fully working and lockout fixed (p.s vinegarr soaking rush over night worked a dream)

  • @ipso9141
    @ipso9141 2 роки тому +1

    Straight too the basics. No thrills... Loving it!

  • @adrianjosecortidor5835
    @adrianjosecortidor5835 2 роки тому

    Now all I need is that tool to take off the adjustment caps and a proper stand. Always wanted to do self service, thankfully I bumped into this vid. You made it look so easy and it's not a hassle to learn. Thank you!

  • @chugalug
    @chugalug 8 місяців тому

    Straight to the point, and easy to listen to, Best video I've seen so far. Have to transfer parts from one fork to another and couldn't work out the best order to strip them.

  • @nomit4hd552
    @nomit4hd552 Місяць тому +6

    "its for cleaning shotguns, picked it up at a local garage sell" is such an american thing to say

  • @martinmbae2688
    @martinmbae2688 Рік тому +1

    Thanks a lot mate. I finally serviced a fork that I had dreaded the very thought for months because I couldn't find a detailed guide

  • @ErichVonCartmann
    @ErichVonCartmann 5 років тому +4

    Good Video man, the world needs more videos like this and people like you!

  • @desmond5593
    @desmond5593 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much for making this video easy to understand. Looking forward to maintaining my fork of 20 years.

  • @armmargret1970
    @armmargret1970 3 роки тому +2

    Really helpful video, all steps well explained in detail.
    I have one of these forks and now I am prepared in case I need to service it.

  • @seanworsdell2058
    @seanworsdell2058 3 роки тому +2

    Now I know why I have to get rid of my XCMs ASAP! Great vid.

  • @duncandee2514
    @duncandee2514 3 роки тому

    every time I need video for a bike repair you provide every time ,thank you RJ 🙏😀,,🇬🇧

  • @dermotgilmartin1818
    @dermotgilmartin1818 3 роки тому

    Again one ofvyour videos a great help , just finished my first service on my XCM lowers till my tool for uppers arrived, thanks dude 😎☘

  • @sblackdragon
    @sblackdragon 5 років тому

    I have a bike given to me which was painted black all over seat tyres wheels chain the lot so i am building it up from scratch with all new parts and personalising it your videos have been a great help as the ladt time i built a bike was when i was a kid and there are alot of new parts out there now. Ty for these vids

  • @inuktittussen2164
    @inuktittussen2164 4 роки тому +11

    You, sir, got another like here. I needed this video, so yet again, thank you, you are helping me alot.

  • @justino359
    @justino359 10 місяців тому

    Thank you. Fixed my son's forks after a wet muddy day at the bike park!

  • @longislandcerealkiller6385
    @longislandcerealkiller6385 5 років тому +7

    Always just when pouring a cup of coffee ☕thx man 👌

  • @horusgarcia1
    @horusgarcia1 4 роки тому +11

    Great detailed video. My shocks are making funny sounds, so I will take them apart using this video. Thanks.

  • @chrisfinch5910
    @chrisfinch5910 4 роки тому +9

    You made it look so easy! Hope it’s that easy when I service my forks! Thanks for the great video!

    • @alimantado373
      @alimantado373 4 роки тому +1

      not that easy... wish real life had editing :)

    • @PapaLeguasCOD
      @PapaLeguasCOD 3 роки тому

      @@alimantado373 true

  • @justinholmes5614
    @justinholmes5614 4 роки тому +8

    I’ve always wondered what these horrible things look like inside. Thank you :)

  • @robdude1969
    @robdude1969 2 роки тому +1

    oh man, you just confirmed my thoughts... I did get a springy shock on my new to me bike. Now I know I will be looking for upgraded shocks. Great video!

  • @ZehnGen
    @ZehnGen 4 роки тому +3

    Thank you so much for this tear down/assembly, super helpful!
    Will find out if the overall saves my old fork when the Suntour tool arrives.
    I found it easiest to order the tool directly from suntour.

  • @Bikeops2021
    @Bikeops2021 5 років тому

    Another great video to add to your already fairly health library, excellent work RJ

  • @jsteele2923
    @jsteele2923 2 роки тому

    Dude. You are a superhero to us in the field on the front.lines.. amazing!!

  • @RJTheBikeGuy
    @RJTheBikeGuy  5 років тому +4

    For more bike repair videos hit the subscribe button 🛑 and click the notification bell ► bit.ly/SubRJTheBikeGuy

    • @Eng586
      @Eng586 5 років тому +1

      I needed this ! Thanks man

  • @egolfandenmatten5813
    @egolfandenmatten5813 2 роки тому

    Wow, I am from Switzerland and you habe helpt me so much with this video, you have a very good flair to show and explain each step ....I just love it.....Many thanks for your time, work and presenting to us....👍👍👏👏❤

  • @tedoyle61
    @tedoyle61 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the video. Cant tell you how much I appreciate all that you do!!!

  • @s.sradon9782
    @s.sradon9782 2 роки тому +1

    This was very helpful, more so than other videos. I have water and rust in mine because i thought you never had to take these apart, going to print myself the tool and fix it forst thing in the morning.

  • @threepot900
    @threepot900 4 місяці тому

    Just pulled an old Scott YZ15 out of the garage and need to do the brakes. Fork has oil on the outside so wasn’t sure if the seals had gone. This was the first vid when I typed xcm fork strip into the search. Nice to see they are about as advanced as my 1966 Triumph Tiger Cub forks.😅 At least I now know it’s not oil leaking out of the forks.
    I’ll have a mooch and see if you’ve done a brake service on Shimano BLM hydraulic system.
    I’ve liked this vid and subscribed, as you seem to have struck a happy balance between explanation and showing the process. Not so complicated you’d frighten a newcomer, and not so simple that someone with some mechanical knowledge is left wanting. Nice job!

  • @waydejaynes1291
    @waydejaynes1291 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome video thanks. Worked on cars all my life but now I have to learn bikes.

  • @Hondanissanman
    @Hondanissanman 2 роки тому

    My first time dealing with xcm forks. Thank you for the video great help 👍.

  • @mikehardy7287
    @mikehardy7287 Рік тому

    Good job. You give me the confidence to tackle the job myself.

  • @Astro-zf6xi
    @Astro-zf6xi 11 місяців тому

    Just got a pair of these forks for my late 90s diamondback apex this vid is perfect

  • @kataryvergara4850
    @kataryvergara4850 5 років тому +2

    Bless from Chile.. Never stop making videos please.. Never forget

  • @mikeljhonson8959
    @mikeljhonson8959 5 років тому +13

    Nice video and very helpful for your newbie home mechanic fans. Since suntour is the first choice for almost all the bike manufacturer's entry level segment, chances are xct, xcm, xcr forks are their one and only way to go. almost all of their super cheap to mid level hardtails got these models and sometimes rockshox xc 28, xc 30 coil varients can be seen. Again thanks for your tutorial. Watching this before disassembly, is really assuring for anyone. Want this type of tutorials even more.

  • @owzdevil
    @owzdevil Місяць тому

    Thanks man. This cured a creak that I thought was terminal for the fork

  • @richardcleasby1105
    @richardcleasby1105 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the advise as the only video found explaning on the fork sleeve and movement thanks again.

  • @dmandhelen
    @dmandhelen 4 роки тому +3

    Great explanation.. and practical demonstration... you didn’t try and confuse with too many technical terms ..!!!👌👌👌👌thats just what a beginner needs !!! Well done and thank you for your time and effort!!!👍👍😁😁😁😁😁

  • @karlfischer1820
    @karlfischer1820 3 місяці тому

    thank you for this service instructions. also well spoken english. so i can understand almost 100%. thanks from germany

  • @thebikespot9177
    @thebikespot9177 3 роки тому

    I learned from you so many things, thank you for these awesome videos. You rock!

  • @gustavomallmann2620
    @gustavomallmann2620 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks for sharing this detailed video... I have to service my fork from my Cannondale and now I know exactly what I will face and what to do... :>))

  • @ptok48
    @ptok48 3 роки тому +1

    Wow! Concise, easy to follow video. Excellent!

  • @swylok8380
    @swylok8380 2 роки тому

    Excellent vidio chuffed i found this as i thought all forks services were expensive and time consuming . Didnt even know these had springs inside.

  • @SuperJerot
    @SuperJerot 5 років тому +82

    Now that's a useful video! Servicing an entry level fork at home. Most people pay for the service almost as much as getting a used fork, why not doing it yourself. It would be awesome if you could do the same with RockShox Dart 3 fork. I think Dart lineup is about the same for servicing but that's just a wild estimation.

    • @paul-stefandutoit8990
      @paul-stefandutoit8990 4 роки тому

      Is there even a reason to service forks like these? I mean I can see no benifit to doing so. There are no seals that can leak or real performance increase afterwards. Perhaps all reason I can think is if a part is badly worn out or damaged

    • @gryyta9617
      @gryyta9617 4 роки тому +5

      @@paul-stefandutoit8990 worn bushings, hardened grease and bad seals that are letting dirt in.

    • @schriebeschriebs7501
      @schriebeschriebs7501 3 роки тому +5

      Water pools in the bottom, rust

    • @nikolajovic8497
      @nikolajovic8497 3 роки тому

      @@gryyta9617 soo they dont need to be serviced on working hours like air ? On every 120 Hours new sels and stuff .

    • @gryyta9617
      @gryyta9617 3 роки тому +2

      @@nikolajovic8497 Not really, but they sure get worn. You can check the service manual for real h numbers or so.

  • @53glowe
    @53glowe 3 роки тому

    Great instructional service video...I have these forks on my Bianchi Kuma 5300 hardtail and found it very useful. Thanks very much indeed 👍😀

  • @junokamura3536
    @junokamura3536 3 роки тому

    Tnx so much for this kind of videos that just having ideas how to reconditioned of your fork,specially with my santour fork xcm...

  • @adamthomas1222
    @adamthomas1222 2 роки тому

    Thanks for this video! Love from Malaysia!

  • @rossross5620
    @rossross5620 4 роки тому +2

    Thank's a Lot for your video !! I used this video to disassemble other sr Suntour fork's ...and I ca say once you got the concept no Suntour fork's can resist to me !!! I already fix 2 of them and I'm going to fix another one soon...The sr Suntour tool was very useful !! And It easy to find on Ebay as you mentioned ....Thank's a lot gr8 job gr8 video !! :-0)

  • @OptimusBri22
    @OptimusBri22 4 роки тому +4

    This is great!! I got a mtb for free, but the forks are rusted and seized up. Being that its a cheaper bike, I didn't want to spend $$ on a new fork. I'd just have to get the tool to get the top caps out. Overall, a really great video. Thank you.

  • @jaysondocot1870
    @jaysondocot1870 4 роки тому

    thank you for helping us. more power to you RJ. keep it up! 🤙

  • @jkh977
    @jkh977 Рік тому

    Nice one saved me time and money on my giant Ltd mb, stripping bike down and servicing, ready for spring bike packing, changing rear cassette and front rings too.

  • @mjojrjr6231
    @mjojrjr6231 3 роки тому

    Nice guide Mate, mine is XCE 28 and would love to strip and grease it. This guide seems spot on apart from my drive side has the lock on and non drive side with the rebound adjustment.

  • @mirvanyousef7898
    @mirvanyousef7898 3 роки тому

    What a great video! I needed it, and it's perfectly explained.

  • @danieltindley3252
    @danieltindley3252 4 роки тому +5

    Instead of tapping the nuts on the bottom, we found its far quicker to take the nuts completely off and tap the brace with a mallet. We get a lot of these forks in my shop

  • @wesselrosheuvel7086
    @wesselrosheuvel7086 2 роки тому

    Great video and way of explaining

  • @VitorMadeira
    @VitorMadeira Рік тому

    Perfect. Thank you.
    Greetings from Portugal.

  • @jirisetlik385
    @jirisetlik385 3 роки тому

    Nice how you Are not only saying what are you doing, but also why. Thanks

  • @madeiraislander
    @madeiraislander 5 років тому

    Best bike channel around :)

  • @hectorperu28lima17
    @hectorperu28lima17 5 років тому +1

    Usted lo hace simple y excelente!

  • @worldgemlover
    @worldgemlover Рік тому +1

    Thank you very much, more than wonderful video, and the explanation is very excellent

  • @brenoakiy
    @brenoakiy Рік тому

    thank you for the video
    first time servicing a fork, all went well!

  • @that70sschwinn
    @that70sschwinn 5 років тому +1

    Very thorough demo 👍🔧

  • @lman22
    @lman22 3 роки тому

    Thanks heaps man I've always been cautious of working on suspension until now!!

    • @lman22
      @lman22 3 роки тому +1

      As soon as you liked I got my lowers off🤣 Still waiting on the tool!

  • @jomarcalang1229
    @jomarcalang1229 3 роки тому

    very helpful video.. thank you so much for making this. now i can repair my fpr without bringing it to bicycle shop.

  • @belanagy5595
    @belanagy5595 4 роки тому

    Brilliant video, easy to understand - thanks for posting. I have the same fork so I'll do the same disassembly on it to clean it up ;-)

  • @nimasku
    @nimasku 4 роки тому

    Terimakasih saya telah mencoba service dan hasilnya luar biasa...

  • @hcdangan
    @hcdangan 2 роки тому

    I subscribed because of this awesome video!

  • @cecelioadrias8382
    @cecelioadrias8382 3 роки тому

    NICE,COMPLETE DETAILS.BOSS GOOD JOB!!!

  • @theepimountainbiker6551
    @theepimountainbiker6551 3 роки тому

    You make it look easy, thanks.

  • @NguyenTran-eu1pw
    @NguyenTran-eu1pw Рік тому

    it's really nice job. Very impressive what you did.

  • @elmerbanta8507
    @elmerbanta8507 7 місяців тому

    Thank you sir for sharing your knowledge.

  • @limegreentv
    @limegreentv 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome
    Thanks so much for making it so easy 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @mirageycq
    @mirageycq 4 роки тому

    Thank you so much for this video. Very very informative. Will get those plastic tool for sure. Cheers

  • @waynelee9796
    @waynelee9796 3 роки тому

    Glad found this video , very helpful.

  • @jessethecarpenter
    @jessethecarpenter 5 років тому +106

    "Being dead is not fun" - classic RJ

    • @juzerlathiwala4843
      @juzerlathiwala4843 4 роки тому

      Hi sir I have watch your video ,I'm from India ,I have a bycycle having nrx 8000 suspension is not working can u help me to fix it

    • @kotlet2612
      @kotlet2612 3 роки тому

      Philosophy hour with sir rj

    • @ronielsuase7535
      @ronielsuase7535 3 роки тому

      pewede po pagawa ako na bike ko mangkano po kuya

    • @carloabis8301
      @carloabis8301 3 роки тому

      @@juzerlathiwala4843 z. Zee zz d

  • @howerk
    @howerk 3 роки тому

    Awesome video, really helpful. Thanks!

  • @wvaneekelen
    @wvaneekelen 3 роки тому

    Awesome vid. Gonna try next week.

  • @fabioleal4665
    @fabioleal4665 Рік тому +1

    Mine has 9 months in service now and started working incorrrectly, with its back travel getting slower like an airlplane landing gear shock. Again, bike forks should be capable of fast feedback, given the low mass of the cyclist + bike system. Dampers, especially viscous-type, like the hydraulic cartridges are intended to slow down the return travel on large mass systems to prevent them from bouncing for too long. That's taught on the basiscs of the mechanical engineering course, on vibration, and this is why car suspensions have a coil + fluid damper system. Back to my XCM 30, after these 9 months, it started to rub, making it sluggish on its back travel. When I opened it, I found the reason: The plastic caps at the end of the coil spings were too tight to the internal wall so as soon as they got some dirty and the ends of the coils got a bit rusty, they started to hold it back at the begining of the back travel, due the increased friction. After some finish sanding, it now works correctly, being promptly ready for the next obstacle as soon as it gets off the 1st. High frequency shock absorving function is back to mine now. I dare to say that under certain circumstances it works better than my Rockshox Judy from my 2nd bike, which is a fair comparison as it's also a coil spring fork. Althouh both are obviously not comparable to an air susp, Suntour has the advantages of being cheap and easy to maintain at home. The big problem I noticed is the rust on the chromed legs before 1 year in service, as these are parts that aren't worth to replace, epseciallly from the complexity and safety standpoints.

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      @fabioleal4665 Рік тому

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  • @ochenGsUp
    @ochenGsUp 3 роки тому

    Very nice video! Helped out a lot!

  • @Gabriela-jc4pt
    @Gabriela-jc4pt 4 роки тому

    I have a XCM 30 on my GT Avalanche Comp 2019, I just clicked the preload 4 clicks towards the frame and it's honestly good enough for some of the downhill trails i ride..

  • @naizelshorts
    @naizelshorts 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for the video....I'm very grateful to you

  • @TekTrikYanhari
    @TekTrikYanhari 2 роки тому

    Great detail guy👍

  • @jojo-dn7qb
    @jojo-dn7qb 4 роки тому +2

    great tutorial....i have that brand currently on my bike. it’s getting replaced asap. want something lite and more flexibility in its settings

  • @barryfrancis7899
    @barryfrancis7899 3 роки тому

    that was a great vid now i can do my forks with a bit more confidence

  • @Arthurdoar
    @Arthurdoar Рік тому

    Best Tutorial ever!

  • @albertoshernandez5251
    @albertoshernandez5251 Рік тому

    You did a Pretty good job dude!.,I like it 👍

  • @masterofdisaster7427
    @masterofdisaster7427 3 роки тому

    Thank's a lot for the video mate, well done.

  • @kamil.czuba81
    @kamil.czuba81 Рік тому

    Awesome video. Thank you very much.

  • @jukeli58
    @jukeli58 6 місяців тому +1

    thank you this videos, help me very very much

  • @EsaMononen
    @EsaMononen Рік тому

    this helped me a lot. thank you.

  • @chrisyoung3329
    @chrisyoung3329 2 роки тому

    That was very useful man, thank you for share.