We Bought the CHEAPEST OLED TV… How Bad Could It Be? - Skyworth XC9000

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  • @EposVox
    @EposVox 3 роки тому +3501

    Echoing the request for more supply chain insights

    • @tippitytop
      @tippitytop 3 роки тому

      🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

    • @lexecomplexe4083
      @lexecomplexe4083 3 роки тому

      Would love to hear your thoughts on this as well

    • @iTouch4444
      @iTouch4444 3 роки тому +7

      Oh epos Clown again

    • @christophersonawane
      @christophersonawane 3 роки тому +6

      I learn't more about logistics from this video than i did at college during my entire semester.

    • @glueplay
      @glueplay 3 роки тому +5

      @@iTouch4444 coming from Mr itouch44 lmao

  • @TheBritishPatriot
    @TheBritishPatriot 3 роки тому +2558

    I like that we got a bit of “Business 101” at the start, Linus does a really great job at explaining that stuff simply!

    • @robertkennion9020
      @robertkennion9020 3 роки тому +15

      A british patriot wouldnt support Trump or his facists policies.

    • @Kyle496
      @Kyle496 3 роки тому +3

      @@robertkennion9020
      Well, you do know fascists are everywhere right? Every dictator has had some form of a fanatical base or the other.

    • @heyjohnsmith
      @heyjohnsmith 3 роки тому +1

      Exactly, was about to comment the same, learned a lot on this type of market manipulation

    • @reyluna0
      @reyluna0 3 роки тому +3

      You mean the writters

    • @TKIvanov
      @TKIvanov 3 роки тому +1

      Linus does a great job explaining PERIOD

  • @keshansingh6805
    @keshansingh6805 3 роки тому +4063

    I love hearing Linus's Supply chain insights. They give me a different lens to view the decisions businesses make.

    • @barrettready1713
      @barrettready1713 3 роки тому +81

      Many people don't understand how business work at all it really should be taught more in school. My favorite is business taxes but that's a whole nothing issue.

    • @sirchewiee
      @sirchewiee 3 роки тому +50

      Makes me a lot more patient in different retail scenarios. I'm definitely one of those people who will not buy something unless its close to the historical lowest price lol. No point in paying full price if it was cheaper before!

    • @trikshotz2955
      @trikshotz2955 3 роки тому +1

      @@barrettready1713 my high school has 2 different business classes

    • @basshead.
      @basshead. 3 роки тому +6

      Linus doesn't know what he's talking about. He doesn't even know the difference between "manufacturer" and "retailer".

    • @mika2666
      @mika2666 3 роки тому +25

      @@basshead. false

  • @Ttarler
    @Ttarler 3 роки тому +32

    The business /economics perspective here is huge. I work in product management (data scientist) and I deal with very talented tech all day who simply don’t understand the economics behind certain decisions. We need better education across the board but really pleased to see LTT stepping up on it.

  • @peterxiao6217
    @peterxiao6217 2 роки тому +65

    I love how after so many years in tech, hitting the remote is still the first thing Linus does

  • @LMacNeill
    @LMacNeill 3 роки тому +437

    I was today years old when I learned that LG is really the Lucky Goldstar brand from the '80s and '90s! Seriously?! I had a Goldstar monitor back in the early '90s. Kept that thing for many years.

    • @D3M3NT3Dstrang3r
      @D3M3NT3Dstrang3r 3 роки тому +37

      Lol now you know what the L and G in LG stand for, or did.

    • @SStarlight9614
      @SStarlight9614 3 роки тому +98

      @@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r ngl always thought it stood for life's good like they used to show in their commercials a long time ago

    • @engineerinie
      @engineerinie 3 роки тому +7

      @@SStarlight9614 ha ha me too!

    • @marshinz5696
      @marshinz5696 3 роки тому +1

      @@SStarlight9614 Same.

    • @firesurfer
      @firesurfer 3 роки тому +10

      Goldstar was the worst pos, even worse than Craig. Electrophonic was the bottom of the barrel but they never made Tvs in my memory.

  • @ThorsShadow
    @ThorsShadow 3 роки тому +739

    Absolutely loved the "Linus Business Tips" part of the video. I always love it, when Linus gives us some insight and here it was also really well-made in the video.

    • @LAIDAN22
      @LAIDAN22 3 роки тому +5

      It's always nice to see, i never really knew the whole neuance behind businesses
      (also screw the fake comments above)

  • @00kidney
    @00kidney 3 роки тому +3226

    So when are we gonna get Linus new channel "Linus Business Tips"???

    • @nekohacker591
      @nekohacker591 3 роки тому +33

      YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @arminabdi
      @arminabdi 3 роки тому +48

      It’s called WAN show.

    • @Rabolisk
      @Rabolisk 3 роки тому +8

      "Linus Biz Tips"

    • @soroushjm1011
      @soroushjm1011 3 роки тому +6

      @@ElectricityTaster you know that a thing right?

    • @akena4454
      @akena4454 3 роки тому

      Did I ask

  • @techiteasyaus
    @techiteasyaus 3 роки тому +103

    As much as I like technology, this class is WAY more interesting than how you can gain or lose 20 fps from a 100 fps base. More of this please!!!

  • @wolfdragonhorse
    @wolfdragonhorse 3 роки тому +15

    Yeah, this is why at the retailer I work for as a buyer, we just price everything at MAP or near MAP when those prices are available from the vendor. Why stress over all that BS?! Granted we are a family owned independent and therefore don't have big box executives making BS calls perpetuating the 'sale' BS.

  • @MatthewMahony
    @MatthewMahony 3 роки тому +637

    From someone who’s worked with many retailers… that analysis at the beginning was spot on. Definitely loved this segment!

  • @DurvalLacerda
    @DurvalLacerda 3 роки тому +2991

    Came here expecting Linus to roast a cheap horrible OLED TV
    Didn't expect the retailer and supply chain class.
    I love this.

  • @stefans6658
    @stefans6658 3 роки тому +131

    This statement about seeing lower price, will make you wait for a good deal is so true. last year I saw kitchenaid stand mixer for 199$ missed the deal and refused to pay 375$, even though I spend money on things I don't need all the time. I just bought one this week for 219$ :)

  • @mulhatton
    @mulhatton 3 роки тому +25

    I'm watching this on my
    Skyworth
    55 inch
    4K OLED
    Model 55S9A
    The screen is sooo bright that I have my backlight setting at 5/100.
    It is better than any Samsung panel that I have seen.
    At a cost of around ZAR 20,000.00 it is probably the cheapest 55" OLED TV panel in South Africa.
    And I love it!!

  • @HendrayatnaTafianoto
    @HendrayatnaTafianoto 3 роки тому +11

    A similar thing happened almost a decade ago. Remember the brand Qnix, Catleap, or Crossover? In 2012 and 2013, people started buying "Korean monitors" that have 27 inch IPS panel at 2560 x 1440 resolution, priced at around $300. These monitors presumably have the same IPS panel used by Apple Display at a fraction of the cost. Although your mileage may vary if you bought one (I read some horror stories regarding these monitors), I can say that I am a happy customer. Bought one in March 2012 and I'm still using it now.

    • @bushwacker8278
      @bushwacker8278 3 роки тому

      Likewise. Currently viewing this content on my Crossover 2795qhd (admittedly with a single stuck pixel) from 2014

    • @HendrayatnaTafianoto
      @HendrayatnaTafianoto 3 роки тому

      @@bushwacker8278 oh yeah, now I remembered! I also have a stuck pixel, in the prominent middle part of the screen too, but I have forgotten about it and have to really search to find it.

  • @Segmaster01
    @Segmaster01 3 роки тому +302

    Huge props for the business/manufacturing/supply chain lesson at the beginning. So many people have no idea how this works and that was a brief yet wonderfully worded explanation of how it all works. Well done guys.

    • @YavNe
      @YavNe 2 роки тому

      @@desmasic Good for you. Then don't buy a game for 10 years or NEVER. lmao.

    • @zergling2621
      @zergling2621 Рік тому

      @@YavNe ? Steam sales happen so often that I doubt it takes too long

  • @SaladHate
    @SaladHate 3 роки тому +686

    "customers if they see the price once - they re gonna hold off to see the price again" - shows bunch of RTX boxes on these words. Exactly!

    • @Juanguar
      @Juanguar 3 роки тому +54

      It’s exactly what most people I know are doing
      No one is buying PC parts because of the jacked up prices

    • @vaughn1804
      @vaughn1804 3 роки тому +21

      If I can't give my money to NVIDIA... no money for AMD, SAMSUNG, MSI, CORSAIR, SEASONIC... u get the picture.

    • @Lerppunen
      @Lerppunen 3 роки тому +34

      @@Juanguar Prices are jacked up precisely because people are willing to pay that much.

    • @Juanguar
      @Juanguar 3 роки тому +22

      @@Lerppunen isnt it a minority of poeple that are willing to pay that much though ?

    • @Lerppunen
      @Lerppunen 3 роки тому +14

      @@Juanguar Sellers pick the highest price they are able to sell their inventory at. So enough people are willing to pay high prices.

  • @jmporkbob
    @jmporkbob 3 роки тому +880

    RCA as a company is actually completely dead, and has been since the 80s. It's just a name that was bought by other companies and is dangled haphazardly around. Basically like Atari.

    • @kaylons
      @kaylons 3 роки тому +4

      Seems like a shame

    • @jmporkbob
      @jmporkbob 3 роки тому +92

      @@kaylons It is a shame, but also pretty fascinating. They were a very early pioneer in doing cutting edge research to design their products, but as a result they had their research wing being more pure science focused instead of consumer product focused. This created a lot of internal politics and different heads pulling in different directions.
      Ultimately after decades of this and certain products taking arguably a decade longer to come out than they should have in order to do well in the market (namely the CED, which was a way to put video on a vinyl record... which didn't come out until after VHS and Laserdisc, due to politics and management issues), they ultimately collapsed under all the sunk costs and lack of remarkable products.

    • @paulocardoso9605
      @paulocardoso9605 3 роки тому +54

      Technology Connections has a 5-part series on the history of CED, which explains in part the fall of RCA.

    • @jmporkbob
      @jmporkbob 3 роки тому +16

      @@paulocardoso9605 Yep, I actually watched it within the past couple weeks, which is why it was so fresh on the brain. 😄

    • @samiraperi467
      @samiraperi467 3 роки тому +6

      And Commodore. Except CBM went bust in mid-90s.

  • @HeistFTW
    @HeistFTW 2 роки тому +12

    Idk if Linus just got a bad tv but my skyworth Oled is absolutely gorgeous of a tv. It actually gets real bright and the remote is super responsive. I got the xc9000 65 inch. Definitely worth it imo

    • @sweetsurrender815
      @sweetsurrender815 2 роки тому

      Idk man, once you experience a Sony/LG TV you'd not wanna go back

    • @blackbolt57
      @blackbolt57 Рік тому

      I agree,as a matter of fact the only complaints I have are sometimes getting into streaming apps have hiccups and I can't get my 5.1 receiver to work with it,other than that..🤷🏿‍♂️

  • @Humtog
    @Humtog 3 роки тому +4

    Like how LG mobiles failed due to over-discounts. By the end, everyone including reviewers doing the first review were saying "The price is $900 now, but it will be $300 in two-three months, so hold off your purchases". And thus no one was purchasing at their intended prices anymore.

  • @Mengmoshu
    @Mengmoshu 3 роки тому +281

    I like that a lot of these "we bought the cheapest X" videos LTT does have squeezed in some sort of more informational bit, like Linus' retail electronics pricing explanation in this one. It's a really great bonus on top of the basic subject and answering the question "should you buy this".

  • @nintendoatarikiller
    @nintendoatarikiller 3 роки тому +142

    I like the bit where you talked about how the retail business worked when you were at NCIX

  • @Probly
    @Probly 3 роки тому +61

    I really enjoyed that section where you talked about the reason for a minimum price. Very insightful

  • @jonathanpusar5931
    @jonathanpusar5931 Рік тому +1

    Damn…as someone who has worked both in eComm retail and currently in Brand Marketing….this is incredibly succinct in explaining how complex the relationship is.
    B School professors - show this video in your marketing classes.

  • @TheCrystalGlow
    @TheCrystalGlow 3 роки тому +16

    If you want to experiment and not worried about voiding the warranty, you can always take the output resistors on the driver circuit and just put a lower value resistor on the board. In theory it will provide more power and increase peak brightness

    • @yrly59e
      @yrly59e 2 роки тому +5

      It can probably be unlocked via firmware or service menus. My guess is Skyworth caps it to prevent burn in and save warranty claims. The Sony A8H is harder to burn in than the LG C8 despite the same panel. Sony capped the peak brighness where LG drives theirs super bright. On the plus side it will likely last a long time.

    • @carldrogo9492
      @carldrogo9492 Рік тому +2

      That will definitely void warranty. 🤦‍♂️

    • @stevepanosian9485
      @stevepanosian9485 Рік тому

      no

  • @speedyink
    @speedyink 3 роки тому +298

    I literally deal with MAP prices everyday at work. They are definitely important, and help big box stores from trampling over smaller retailers. I fortunately have a very decent relationship with my main company, but I can see how even with MAP prices it's a small margin for smaller then us retailers, but they at least make things mostly manageable. There's definitely a certain point where a small retailer could just say screw, why even stock your products if big box stores can sell for less then even the small retailer can pay for it.

    • @jesseg7757
      @jesseg7757 3 роки тому +15

      Most get around the MAP price by doing a cheesy “Click to see price in cart” scam. It’s all a load of crap, and allows big retailers to throw money in the form of loss-leaders to get all the knock-on hardware purchases like sound bars and such. (While I don’t THINK TV’s tend to be loss-leaders, it wouldn’t surprise me if the margin was enough higher on the accessories to make it worth it to them.)

    • @poiu477
      @poiu477 3 роки тому +9

      @@jesseg7757 How the fuck is it a scam lmao? Capitalism as a whole needs to go the way of the dodo, including all those smaller retailers

    • @poiu477
      @poiu477 3 роки тому +12

      @@jesseg7757 It would be better for the environment and people if there weren't so many businesses doing the same things, all trying to extract value from workers.

    • @chaitanyamore8786
      @chaitanyamore8786 3 роки тому

      Every marginal addition over purchase of each unit can be liable for indirect taxes so it's not only about retailer it's about management to avoid as much as u can because u maybe have small area to sell ur product than other

    • @LOTR_BTTF
      @LOTR_BTTF 3 роки тому +1

      I don't deal with them every day, but I do have to deal with them occasionally. Sometimes get a customer upset they can't use a coupon, membership discount, etc. on a certain product and it because it's already selling at the MAP price. Can tell them that we contractually can't discount that product any further than it's already selling at, but they usually don't want to hear it LOL

  • @TheDorianTube
    @TheDorianTube 3 роки тому +62

    This type of info is what I like to hear. I never understand how businesses work, and sometimes their decision feel weird af. Stuff like this supply chain speech is extremely interesting. More please.

    • @FlameRat_YehLon
      @FlameRat_YehLon 3 роки тому +1

      It's actually so common that sometimes if you ask the seller they would give you a secret discount that's lower than MAP. They just can't mark the price like so.

    • @vegetable215
      @vegetable215 3 роки тому +2

      well, what linus did not mention is that Skyworth is the top1 company for buying OLED panels from LGD(aside from LGE). It takes up to 50% of OLED TV market share in China and both Xiaomi and HUAWEI's OLED TV are manufactured by Skyworth. Moreover, Skyworth is the only company aside from LGE to offer 8K OLED(about $30000 in China) and 48' 4K OLED(about $2000 in China).

  • @kevincy75
    @kevincy75 3 роки тому +111

    That ‘Business Tip’ Linus mentioned kinda illustrates the GPU debate I’ve seen. People have seen GPU prices cratered to absolutely nothing in the past. Some now are waiting for GPU prices to drop, which is totally reasonable, but some are waiting for the price level to be around the same level as that in 2018, which is just absurd given the MSRP is higher than the crash price.

    • @duckpotat9818
      @duckpotat9818 3 роки тому +16

      Not to mention the insane inflation due to money printers going brrr

    • @kirathekillernote2173
      @kirathekillernote2173 3 роки тому +5

      @@duckpotat9818 We call it “social spending”, although it never sees light of the day to society

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 3 роки тому

      @@duckpotat9818 perfectly coinciding with the other "money printers" (crypto mining) going full-tilt right now. Ethereum and Bitcoin hit another all-time high the other day. 💀

  • @finraziel
    @finraziel 3 роки тому +12

    Meanwhile, a few months ago LG A1 was only €650 here in the Netherlands... Not sure what it's now, but over here LG seems to have this strategy where they forbid retailers from officially stunting too much with their prices, but if you call around a few stores you can usually get a very good price.
    € may be a little stronger than $, but due to taxes, import fees and the like you can usually just do €=$ for electronics.

  • @R6ex
    @R6ex 3 роки тому +6

    A well-balanced piece of advice for this budget OLED. Certainly more positive than the one by ... erm, FOMO or HDTV Test, I think. If available here in SG, I'll certainly get one.

  • @simpletimes2819
    @simpletimes2819 3 роки тому +474

    the "and who's our sponser" had me dying lmao

    • @imSomebody-m4c
      @imSomebody-m4c 3 роки тому +1

      @GiNa RoSe Sᴇx Cʜᴀɴɴᴇʟ 21 hello bot

    • @ripper4092
      @ripper4092 3 роки тому +2

      😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @astedroid
      @astedroid 3 роки тому +1

      same lmfaooo

    • @__Mr.White__
      @__Mr.White__ 3 роки тому

      Why? Pelase explain.

    • @MichaelVanBladel
      @MichaelVanBladel 3 роки тому +5

      You know it's coming, still gets you every time tho

  • @stevenson720
    @stevenson720 3 роки тому +55

    Thanks Linus, these budget friendly, "Its cheap but is it crap videos?" are really helpful for an average Joe like me.

  • @mimimose4311
    @mimimose4311 3 роки тому +952

    Linus opened my eyes. Honestly I just bought my television for the price itself (less then 200€) and never ever thought of its quality again. But seeing how Linus has actual electronic and retail knowledge to give out to us, I realize what a piece of shit my television actually is. Thank you Linus, for making life miserable again. 😂😂

    • @LinusTechTips
      @LinusTechTips  3 роки тому +509

      Sorreee

    • @Formedras
      @Formedras 3 роки тому +68

      If it's a smart TV (especially with Android/Google TV), the TV itself would have been making your life miserable all on its own before too long. Budget smart TVs just don't have the processing power to actually run both the OS and the display at acceptable quality.

    • @elzafir
      @elzafir 3 роки тому +39

      @@Formedras Acceptable is a relative term. I can live with a little bit of lag on the Google TV interface in a $300 55 4K LCD TV as long as the movies itself is smooth, as opposed to spending an extra $500 for something high end. That $500 is PlayStation 5 money.

    • @Formedras
      @Formedras 3 роки тому +3

      @@elzafir At that price point, you can expect streaming apps to crash half the time. "Acceptable" ceases to be relative.

    • @elzafir
      @elzafir 3 роки тому +26

      @@Formedras haha no dummy. I have one, a $300 TCL 55A8 4K Android TV. Streaming apps like Netflix, Prime, HBO, Disney+, Spotify, UA-cam never crashed on me. What's your source?

  • @miss_inputs
    @miss_inputs 3 роки тому +6

    Just wanted to say, I don't usually bother watching the TV related videos anymore, they all tend to feel a bit out of touch with anyone except rich people, but I gave this one a shot. I'm glad I did, it's good that Linus admits that it's not the most terrible TV even if it has flaws and not up to his standards, and he's trying a bit more to actually think about the viewpoint of a normal viewer who doesn't have a kazillion dollars and a large house to put big fancy TVs in. Would have liked to see a comparison at the end towards just whatever other TV you can get at that price point, not just to a more expensive OLED.
    Anyway I did appreciate the Linus Business Tips too, it's a good insight into how the business model of retail works (or how it doesn't), and I like that it's not trying to tell me "and this is why you should think how things work this way is good and fine", it's just an explanation.

  • @phoat
    @phoat 3 роки тому +2

    I own a distillery and faced this exact same problem. Fantastic breakdown.

  • @JMUDoc
    @JMUDoc 3 роки тому +135

    You should definitely calibrate your review TVs with the X-Rite and give an "after" result - you've got the gear, and it's a service that people have access to; some of the money saved on the initial layout could be spent on calibration.

    • @djayjp
      @djayjp 3 роки тому +5

      This definitely isn't HDTV test here for sure ha

    • @Numfuddle
      @Numfuddle 3 роки тому +16

      It would be interesting but also sort of misrepresenting the product because almost everyone who is buying those TVs wouldn’t even know that you can and/or need to calibrate those displays or have the time, knowledge or money to buy and use a colorimeter. In short everyone that is not a professional graphic designer or deep in the enthusiast hole uses the TVs with the factory calibration. Therefore the factory calibration should not suck

    • @JMUDoc
      @JMUDoc 3 роки тому +5

      @@Numfuddle I agree - the factory settings should not suck. But with not sucking comes expense...
      I don't see that adding the calibration info can possibly do any harm - if you are unaware of calibration you are not going to be watching _this_ review!

    • @Janken_Pro
      @Janken_Pro 3 роки тому +1

      @@Numfuddle there are services for color calibration. You don't have to do it on your own.

    • @KittyKatKya
      @KittyKatKya 3 роки тому +6

      @@Janken_Pro And for the sorts of people who would be aiming for this lower tier TV, those not who aren't reaaaaaally videophiles are either not going to be willing to spend for the labor of having someone run through it with a proper colorimeter/photo-spectrometer or wouldn't really be ones to notice in the first place.
      Having a serviceable factory calibration really should be a priority though. Even as somewhat of a "videophile" who does indeed have a colorimeter, the TCL I purchased some 6 or 7 months ago at this point while likely inaccurate, is inoffensive enough that I genuinely haven't bothered to bust out said equipment and go fiddling with the sliders on the app.

  • @sanlocrip
    @sanlocrip 3 роки тому +7

    As someone's working in consumer electronic market as well, this is an every day issue. Retailer like Amazon will match the price in a second but manufacturer are actually not allowed to influence pricing (at least in Europe). So what happened they will come angry saying the don't get profit with this low price and we should give them money to cover the margin.
    If this continues / refuses to give them the money. It will go CRAP (can't realize a profit) and Amazon will stop ordering from you and selling that product

  • @jameslaxamana4234
    @jameslaxamana4234 3 роки тому +62

    Linus. One of the few youtubers that can actually talk about business stuff and not be spewing out bs.

  • @renanmarcondess
    @renanmarcondess 3 роки тому +5

    It's crazy, I really don't know how LG do it, but here in brazil you can buy the LG 55C1 for the equivalent of 600 usd and the 55A1 for the equivalent of 500. I am not joking, it's the LG and I don't know how they pull it off as the prices of the panels supposedly are in USD. This and samsung devices are the only 2 electronics things that are cheaper in brazil than in the USA.

  • @chop3625
    @chop3625 2 роки тому +1

    Remember when the hardware was pricey. Who would of thought the price of content would be so outrageous. I admire the intelligence of the non viewer. Nice clip👍

  • @iceleon25
    @iceleon25 3 роки тому +61

    Thoroughly enjoyed that business lesson. Thanks, Linus

  • @psychoacer
    @psychoacer 3 роки тому +63

    Skyworth could also be getting lower binned panels that might have with color accuracy in general. Kind of like back in the day when Apple had their Thunderbolt display that and would only accept A+ panels from it's supplier (I think it was Sharp but it might have been LG). So any display that didn't pass with an A+ went into Korean branded monitors that were sold in America for cheap. Supposedly Apple also stipulated that they couldn't sell the panels to large companies or in large bulk so that they weren't competing with LG or Dell with their own panel.

    • @alice_agogo
      @alice_agogo 2 роки тому +3

      This reminds of that manufacturer that only made high end panko bread crumbs for big customers like restaurants. Their lower quality crumbs if they made one at all were supplied to retailers. In my country I've discovered fast food mayo tastes way better than grocery mayo. Even Heinz and Japanese mayo are crap.

  • @SpineShank7
    @SpineShank7 3 роки тому +53

    After 8 years, I finally replaced my old 1080p60hz, 42" LG. Since I primarily use it as a second PC monitor, I still really didn't want to go OLED. I'll end up keeping this long enough that burn-in would drive me mad.. I spent my $950 on an LG NANO90 (2021) for low latency, 4K120hz, G-Sync gaming. Probably not the TV you want if black levels and color accuracy are the main things you care about, but for my purposes, I'm really happy with it.

    • @KThatG
      @KThatG 3 роки тому +2

      For me I replaced a 720p Samsung 32inch LCD TV which I had for 8 years. Played my PS3 and PS4 on it. Now I got a JVC 55” UHD 4K 60hz. It’s not HDR but I don’t care to be honest for my PS5. I’m happy. That’s what matters.

    • @TheDorianTube
      @TheDorianTube 3 роки тому

      I'm still with my 1080p60hz, 50something'' Panasonic, but I really want to change it. The OS is so old, the tech as well, that I can't stream stuff from my PC without a cable. I kinda can, but it only works with downloaded files, and it doesn't support all formats. The app store is also barebone. I really want something more contemporary that would allow me to go nuts with features. I use it only for retro consoles, movies, Switch, PS3 second monitor PC (no gaming)

    • @ComputerTechnic217
      @ComputerTechnic217 3 роки тому

      quiet you

    • @xenonram
      @xenonram 3 роки тому

      @@TheDorianTube just buy a Roku. It's much better than having to buy a whole new TV. I won't buy Samsung TVs with Tizen OS or LG with webOS because of that. My list LG stored supporting Hulu after 2 years of having it. My Samsung Netflix started working poorly and freezing. Sony with android tv is the only one for me now.

  • @superkaboose1066
    @superkaboose1066 3 роки тому +5

    I love it when Linus goes all business, would love a show where Linus just goes through all the different facets of different business areas.

  • @Bemx2k
    @Bemx2k 3 роки тому

    I am using LG CX 55'' as a my second monitor since October 2020 , I am very happy with it , no burn out no bad pixels yet

  • @Numfuddle
    @Numfuddle 3 роки тому +135

    MAP is a form of collusive pricing and like a lot of other volume sales tactics would be flat out illegal in many non-US jurisdictions.

    • @LinusTechTips
      @LinusTechTips  3 роки тому +152

      Fun fact: It actually is illegal here in Canada.

    • @Hamox
      @Hamox 3 роки тому +1

      How is it even still legal in Us

    • @princesidon
      @princesidon 3 роки тому +34

      @@Hamox capitalism!

    • @LizordSword
      @LizordSword 3 роки тому +9

      @@princesidon let's get rid of capitalism, socialism for the win baby

    • @korona277
      @korona277 3 роки тому +4

      @@LinusTechTips MAP is actually legal in Canada.

  • @axolet
    @axolet 3 роки тому +6

    I must applaud LTT for explaining the business side of technology. Most people do not realize the complexity and layers of manufacturing, distribution and sales.

  • @d-fan
    @d-fan 3 роки тому +9

    More of Linus's retailer and supply chain classes, plz. It's a unique and valuable perspective that I haven't seen in any other tech channel.

    • @miragept
      @miragept 3 роки тому +1

      Looks like your comment has already been stolen. Here is the reference:
      ua-cam.com/video/UbEY0ow0zVk/v-deo.html

  • @sherry356
    @sherry356 3 роки тому +3

    Crazy how this has support for everything including Dolby Atmos, Dolby Vision, certain HDMI 2.1 features even on HDMI 2.0b, and yet Samsung's flagship TVs still refuse to.

  • @chaitanyamore8786
    @chaitanyamore8786 3 роки тому +1

    Cash flow statement, LIFO, fifo(first in first out) weighted avg method, stock out method, inventory control, demand n supply, break even point, marginal inventory cost, I don't know whatever Linus said he meant this in professional language

  • @jonathanschober1032
    @jonathanschober1032 3 роки тому +20

    That was one of the most educational LTT videos I’ve seen

  • @jinx20001
    @jinx20001 3 роки тому +10

    been absolutely in love with my LG C1, made sure to buy it with 5 years warranty covering burn in as well for that peace of mind, i still babysit it more than i should need to with any display but its a small price to pay for the outright image quality, actual HDR you want to turn on etc etc. its just awesome really.

    • @maxsolo2652
      @maxsolo2652 3 роки тому +1

      Got my BX 55" for 1K on sale. Amazing panel.

    • @TheJohnboyhunter
      @TheJohnboyhunter 3 роки тому

      You bought extended warranty? Oh dear.

    • @jinx20001
      @jinx20001 3 роки тому +2

      @@TheJohnboyhunter yeh why not? small price to pay when you know the technology is susceptible to burn in, you think its a smarter idea to forego the warranty and use the display worrying about the possibility of what could happen?
      plus, it wasnt extended warranty, the TV already has a warranty and LG have said they will look at burn in on a case by case basis, what i purchased for an extra £140 was 5 years of warranty that covers what normally would not be covered, that being burn in, accidental damage etc
      what that means is if something happens in 1 year ill get a replacement, if something happens in 4 years ill get a replacement and if its discontinued then likely a replacement with a newer model at no cost to me, doesn't really sound like an ''oh dear'' situation to me.

  • @fluffylillian
    @fluffylillian 3 роки тому +10

    Okay that sponsor segue at the start was the absolute CLEANEST segue Linus has ever done

  • @onlymtN
    @onlymtN 3 роки тому

    I studied Business Informatics and never heard such a precise and yet remarkable story like 2:40 ... Great Job!

  • @NatesHomeTours
    @NatesHomeTours 3 роки тому

    Not sure how others set up their home theater systems, but mine is set up so that all my inputs go into my receiver first and then 1 output to the TV. So my Blue Ray, Xbox, Cable box all go into receiver then use 1 output to TV. There is no sound that passes from any device to TV and back to receiver. So trying to get the Shield to transfer Atmos to the receiver should be no issue if you plug it into receiver first and let the receiver send the video to the TV.

  • @xXMockapapellaXx
    @xXMockapapellaXx 3 роки тому +14

    Please start a dedicated business channel. I've watched your channel for years now, and every now and then (either in an LTT video or more often WAN show) we get these little nuggets of insight that are invaluable in managing or navigating business operations.

  • @lowstrife
    @lowstrife 3 роки тому +49

    That intro was actually amazing
    It's been a long time since I've spit out my food at the sponsor segway

  • @LycanWitch
    @LycanWitch 3 роки тому +38

    This seems like the perfect tv for a bedroom, meanwhile an oled by lg or Sony for the living room.

    • @cyphersoc9950
      @cyphersoc9950 3 роки тому +3

      Gaming on my skyworth is impossible also android tv isn't android it doesn't run Android apps, however for movies, tv series it's perfect (just don't buy a Skyworth tv with a triangular Pixel configuration like i fucking did)

    • @michaelangst6078
      @michaelangst6078 3 роки тому +2

      Buying a shitty tv that will obvious have picture and quality issues is never worth the money..

    • @cyphersoc9950
      @cyphersoc9950 3 роки тому

      @@michaelangst6078 picture quality is fine for the price, watching a movie or tv is quite enjoyable, the problem is compatibility with other hardware (pc, xbox, ps) and you will get annoyed with some stuttering

    • @michaelangst6078
      @michaelangst6078 3 роки тому

      @@cyphersoc9950 You're much better off buying a used plasma somewhere cheap with no burn in on craigslist if money is super tight, than paying for this tv that is obviously cheaply made and will have picture defects, huge input lag in games etc... Keep telling yourself you made a good purchase though if you did buy the piece of shit

    • @cyphersoc9950
      @cyphersoc9950 3 роки тому

      @@michaelangst6078 what didn't you understand me saying "... regretting buying it", but it's still good for basic things or are you butthurt cause it's china

  • @lordrefrigeratorintercoole288
    @lordrefrigeratorintercoole288 3 роки тому +6

    sometimes i wake up at night all sweaty terrified by the lack of knowledge.
    "Whos the next LTT sponsor!"

  • @StephenOwen
    @StephenOwen 3 роки тому +2

    Which movies were displayed? The one which showed the Earth in 2049 with a shot of solar power towers and then some foggy scene in the ocean looked very cool and intriguing!

    • @ISNIPEYOU
      @ISNIPEYOU 2 місяці тому

      @@StephenOwen I think it is Blade Runner 2049.

  • @kwedl
    @kwedl 3 роки тому +8

    For 200 bucks more you might as well just get a C1 or wait till early next year when they release smaller models.
    You can even find the 48 inch A1 for around 800 these days.

  • @rushtest4echo737
    @rushtest4echo737 3 роки тому +16

    Wondering why you guys didn't just say "This is what Vizio did 15 years ago" when talking about the scrappy upstart who bought lower tier panels in bulk from the name brand manufacturers in order to undercut those same manufacturers. I mean, yeah the whole LeEco thing happened, but Vizio had the exact same strategy when LCD's were blowing up.

    • @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310
      @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310 3 роки тому +2

      I have fond memories of the first Vizio products being such hot garbage that I have never owned one to this day. I do agree they have come up in the world.

    • @hifiguy77
      @hifiguy77 3 роки тому

      For those old enough to remember, we can say the same thing about Samsung. LOL

  • @gabrielwears1778
    @gabrielwears1778 3 роки тому +27

    Dang honestly 3 hdmi ports is a large selling point, I personally haven’t been able to find many TVs with more than 2 lately

    • @erikpoephoofd
      @erikpoephoofd 3 роки тому +4

      You can also use a HDMI switcher. Not ideal, but does the job

    • @gabrielwears1778
      @gabrielwears1778 3 роки тому

      @@erikpoephoofd yea I have one, you’re right ab it not being ideal but it definitely is something haha

    • @awesomeferret
      @awesomeferret 3 роки тому

      Heehee, me with my 2015 Vizio M series with 5 HDMI ports. Ironically, most of my HDMI stuff goes through my HTR.

    • @MJ-uk6lu
      @MJ-uk6lu 3 роки тому +1

      wtf happened to TV's? My old LG from 2012 has 4 HDMIs also with bunch of analog ports and VGA.

    • @acurisur
      @acurisur 3 роки тому +1

      The LG C1 has 4 HDMI 2.1 ports, the LG A1 has 3 HDMI 2.0 ports. I'd honestly save my money until I had enough to get the LG C1 which is a far superior tv which regularly goes on sale

  • @therookiecoder8347
    @therookiecoder8347 3 роки тому +3

    Damn the editors have been getting really creative with the intros. Great work LMG!

  • @jb678901
    @jb678901 3 роки тому

    Bought a Philips 43"" 4K TV for US$330 over 3 years ago. A full array, 50/60Hz LCD, it does the job well and meets my needs for both remote work and entertainment. Perfect size for my desk work, it works very well for contract drafting, emails, video conferencing, etc. Aside from WoT gaming from time to time, gaming is secondary to other entertainment uses (movies, UA-cam) so the refresh rate is OK. Latency is relatively low and OK too.
    No burn in. Works like a charm...and it was so cheap in price...bought 2 more for the kids' rooms.
    Thought about buying an OLED for the great room, but the issue is that the current Samsung 4K LCD hardly gets used relative to other devices in the house. When we do use it, it's during a family movie on a weekend/holiday evening, where ambient light is more favorable to a non-OLED experience. I think I will forego the OLED for now. If I ever do go the OLED route, it would likely be a SONY or LG.

  • @kajurn791
    @kajurn791 3 роки тому +10

    This was legit one of the best videos LTT made in the recent times.

  • @Darcy_stabler
    @Darcy_stabler 3 роки тому +49

    I love that Linus knows a lot about basically everything

    • @Jmartinezvega
      @Jmartinezvega 3 роки тому +13

      The power of the script. I mean, he knows a lot of stuff, but the script and teleprompter help a lot.

    • @jordanranstead3016
      @jordanranstead3016 3 роки тому

      Father Sebastian knows

    • @jimlovesgina
      @jimlovesgina 3 роки тому +1

      It is funny how much he knows and then quickly shoves his head up his ass when it comes to the differences between capitalist health care vs. socialist health care. Canada is wallowing in shit health care and long wait times and many come to the US where the lines are shorter and the care is better.

    • @The_Stranger70
      @The_Stranger70 3 роки тому +2

      He doesnt. Mostly his workers research and write the scripts for him, so he can just read it out loud.

    • @dstblj5222
      @dstblj5222 3 роки тому

      @@jimlovesgina thats just not true the median canadian and us waittimes arent different the us actually has worse median outcomes due to how insurance works

  • @shadowoftsushima7942
    @shadowoftsushima7942 3 роки тому +6

    After having an OLED for 4 years I will never go with a lower end tv ever again. I have an LG OLED in my room, an LG nano cell in the living room. LG in my opinion are Kings of OLED.

  • @NotJackAlderson
    @NotJackAlderson Рік тому

    Just bought a 4K 65inch Google TV from Skyworth for about $500 USD. Was using a 40 inch RCA that I got for $12 bucks when I was living in dorm as a set with a mini fridge. Upgrade is an upgrade

  • @daneo617
    @daneo617 2 роки тому +1

    If you turn on the developer options open them up and go into the scale section and turn down the three animation settings it'll make it a little snappyer it might mess up your remote mouse cursor if you put the first setting to zero so I'd try 0.05 first, works on all Android devices. 🤷🏻‍♂️✌🏼

  • @BlacklistBill
    @BlacklistBill 3 роки тому +4

    I really liked the deep dive on industry pricing. It's nice to know that there is some method to the madness.

  • @Denstoradiskmaskinen
    @Denstoradiskmaskinen 3 роки тому +23

    Im so fed up with RTX shortages and price bumps, some day in the future i may even go offline to read a book

    • @sirchewiee
      @sirchewiee 3 роки тому +6

      Whoa man, dont resort to such drastic measures!

    • @schneckenwilly
      @schneckenwilly 3 роки тому

      Agreed

    • @Xenoray1
      @Xenoray1 3 роки тому

      bruh like there is a ton of indie games that are fantastic as time consumer..

  • @williamdlc3
    @williamdlc3 3 роки тому +14

    Came in for a review, and ended up learning much about business. This is why Linus is the Goat.

  • @Dark_Ronius
    @Dark_Ronius 3 роки тому

    0:21 I don't know if it's deliberate, but I love how the last frame before the sponsor changes aspect ratio. Like if it was deliberate then that was a cool move, it made me chuckle at that Better Call Saul- style and editing.

  • @Terrobility
    @Terrobility 3 роки тому +1

    The better approach is to get LG C1 OLED ($1000), run Calman for LG, let it generate a 3DLUT and upload it to your TV (it's mostly automatic). Now you have a display so accurate, Netflix Partner Studios says you can color grade on it. Do this for the Game Mode and you'll enjoy that OLED instantaneous pixel response times with perfect colors.

  • @17_Medy
    @17_Medy 3 роки тому +22

    Linus' business lessons are always great 😌

  • @readmore8974
    @readmore8974 3 роки тому +4

    Honestly one of your best videos in a while! I especially liked the explanation of the business side of things but also that you did measurements like the peak brightness and latency yourself

  • @poluefemus
    @poluefemus 3 роки тому +27

    the rarest thing to not see on this channel: “and who’s are sponsor”

    • @rjsmith2007
      @rjsmith2007 3 роки тому +2

      @@MudSluggerBP WHICH LEADS US TO OUR SPONSOR.... GRAMMARLY... WHERE YOU DON'T NEED TO TALK GOOD TO LOOK GOOD.

  • @MinecraftChester
    @MinecraftChester 3 роки тому +1

    We still have a 32" LCD Panasonic TV I've had since ~2004, this would look amazing in our living room.

  • @Jutsch80HD
    @Jutsch80HD 2 роки тому

    In most of Europe, the brand is called “Strong”, and it’s mainly known as a producer of cable boxes, ultra cheap TVs and a surprisingly affordable and still not crappy android box, that they’re unwilling to upgrade from the android 10 it’s stuck on. Their TVs are so cheap, they’re usually matching or even beating store brands in price, and that’s something you see and hear. I once bought one of their cheap TVs as a secondary TV for the bedroom and it was the first time, that I had a TV that was outright unusable without an external speaker of some kind.

  • @kuttispielt7801
    @kuttispielt7801 3 роки тому +25

    830$ Is still way more than what I’d ever spend on a TV.

    • @thecoolbros4868
      @thecoolbros4868 3 роки тому

      @Ysabela 😑

    • @savbeeing7376
      @savbeeing7376 3 роки тому +4

      then don't buy an oled ez

    • @bmxscape
      @bmxscape 3 роки тому

      for real lol when i saw the price in the thumbnail all i could think is for 830 it better be fucking good

    • @Labyriiint
      @Labyriiint 3 роки тому +2

      Really? Most tvs at that price point or less are unwatchable

    • @vask92
      @vask92 3 роки тому

      @@Labyriiint you don’t have to buy an oled. There are a lot of cheap good tvs.

  • @Paz_Soldan
    @Paz_Soldan 3 роки тому +51

    "Who's our sponsor" actually caught me offguard and I cackled.

    • @mattbyuh
      @mattbyuh 3 роки тому

      I mean who always catches u off guard and it's annoying lol

  • @Bare_Essence
    @Bare_Essence 3 роки тому +15

    Well, I guess the company is in good shape now with the 6 months of inventory on a boat that is stuck at the port for 6+ months. Problem solved.

  • @deanjohnson7283
    @deanjohnson7283 Рік тому

    I worked as a manager in a Nike store around 10 years ago. The price we usually stocked shelves on is 30% of the actual price, so we can do a 70% discount without losing money. With tech it is a bit different, because you are not making everything on-site, you have suppliers of different parts. But still, manufacturers rarely sell at a loss on their brand new products. Most of the time it is a product 1-2-3 generations old that was sitting on a shelve waiting to be sold.

  • @Tofuey
    @Tofuey 2 роки тому +3

    8 months later the lg c1 was on sale for 800... crazy how fast prices can go down

  • @mitcherito1
    @mitcherito1 3 роки тому +13

    The laugh in the background when Linus said "fine retailers like ... Cowboy Maloney's" was too good. 13:46

  • @blindfire3167
    @blindfire3167 3 роки тому +5

    Jesus I came here for a cheap OLED TV and got a whole ass lecture in 13 mins that some how was more understandable than any of the classes I took in my US University......and best part I didn't have to pay $3,000 for this lesson \o/

    • @PattyIce865
      @PattyIce865 3 роки тому +1

      I too see this video as an absolute win in regards to business learning

  • @Sam_995
    @Sam_995 3 роки тому +6

    If Linus can give great tech tips and business he must just be a great at giving tips

  • @ridiculous_gaming
    @ridiculous_gaming 3 роки тому

    Here in Canada, the His ends U7G 55" is the deal of 2021 for new consoles at the best price. This is especially true if you picked this up at Costco with their affordable warranty covering for 5 years.

  • @alonsog3r
    @alonsog3r 2 роки тому

    I work at a factory in Mexico where we make both LG and Skyworth´s display (also VIZIO). They are literally the same display, just some minor tweaking in SOC between both.

  • @virtualshift
    @virtualshift 3 роки тому +21

    I'd be curious how the TV would do hooked up to an Apple TV. Also, I spent $1000 for a 70 inch 4K LED LG TV at Costco's with a five year warranty. Kind a hard to pass that up.

    • @metalliholic
      @metalliholic 3 роки тому +3

      Tell me about it. I want an OLED but Best Buy has a 70 inch 4K samsung for $600. Like come on.

    • @KaeganThornhillTheCyberRaven
      @KaeganThornhillTheCyberRaven 2 роки тому +1

      Best way to look at it is " Buy a good LED 4K TV that will last for years; then save up for a OLED" the OLED will replace it for your Main TV and the LED one will be used in a spare room or backup

  • @DearMajesty
    @DearMajesty 3 роки тому +4

    The insight here is really appreciated. Mote videos like this plz!

  • @VivekYadav-ds8oz
    @VivekYadav-ds8oz 3 роки тому +4

    The business part was easily the most informative section.

  • @Xxmeca421xX
    @Xxmeca421xX 3 роки тому +1

    I'm still using a 40 inch Samsung smart tv from 2012 😆 it can't even support UA-cam anymore but I've rebuilt it when the LED's burned out and it's still running strong and looks better than my others

  • @MG-yu6do
    @MG-yu6do 3 роки тому

    I just bought the 55 Inch version of the LG A1 here in Germany for 777€, which is $880 (including the German 19% tax). It’s on sale at Mediamarkt, Saturn and Amazon.

  • @PierIsABaraReader
    @PierIsABaraReader 3 роки тому +20

    If LG Display new batches require LG's proprietary pixel cleaning on standby for display's longevity, which Skyworth won't probably provide, goodluck for those Skyworth OLED TVs lasting long.

    • @dwwolf4636
      @dwwolf4636 3 роки тому

      Contrast that with their lower brightness level.

    • @yrly59e
      @yrly59e 2 роки тому

      Confirmed it does run it on the 55”

  • @jonaskristensen3228
    @jonaskristensen3228 3 роки тому +4

    Did you make the color Measurement with color temp - standard? if yes, you should expect the colors to be off like that.
    the 6500K whitepoint is usualy at Warm2 or custom. you can see it in the target for white and grey, and actual, it's way to blue.

  • @Beastintheomlet
    @Beastintheomlet 3 роки тому +5

    I know it wasn’t intended as a flex but Linus just gave a primer on retail economics showing why he runs a business.

  • @cornbreadreturns296
    @cornbreadreturns296 3 роки тому

    24fps movie content is where LG's shine too. LG's RealCinema translates 24fps content onto 30/60/120 hz displays by holding a frame perfectly for 1/24th of a second just like film in a theater would display smoothing out the "jutter" you mentioned from panning camera shots. That kind of software features just aren't available on cheap sets. It's why LG OLED is still GOAT for movies and video games (low response times in Game Mode).

  • @Chalky.
    @Chalky. 2 роки тому

    As a bedroom TV I'd be okay with that, especially as it has an understressed modern panel that should reduce screen burn, but that's only if any of the cheap components don't fail first.