its,,,, its because the socks fall down ur jeans at school and everyone looks at you so you say its a prank and then go home sick. not speaking from experience it just happens-
A little tip for that is, grab another sock, and cut it till its around 10-13cm (visually) long, and put your sock packer inside it and just pin it to your underwear I hope this helped, works perfectly for me. Good luck💫
My son(trans) was hanging out with a bunch of his friends when he was 14. They were watching a movie and every one was squeezed onto two couches. My son couldn't get comfortable and kept shifting. The friend next to him noticed and said, "Oh sorry, are you being poked? My packer was uncomfortable. I can move it to my other pocket." He pulled his packer out of his sweatshirt pocket and moved it to the pocket on the other side. I love how comfortable these kids are with one another.
Ok as a trans woman i totally get the being dysphoric from stuff that alleviate other people's dysphoria, stuffing a bra makes me absolutely miserable and just the thought of like a fake breastplate makes me sick like having it on me just reminds me i dont actually have it
hearing you tell me “hello underachievers” and “have a good day or don’t, see you later losers” makes me feel really good and happy for some reason lol
5:00 I really feel this, I used to pack regularly at school about a year ago because the feeling of something being there lessened my dysphoria but I always wore huge shirts that would cover it because I didn't want anyone to know. The same thing happened when I first started binding (and I still feel like that around people I just recently came out to). Like I want to hide my chest but I don't want them to know I'm hiding my chest if that makes any sense at all
Same, I started binding two month ago and I'm not out to my family, so when I wear a binder around them I puff my chest for it to not look flat. Happy to know I'm not alone feeling this weird thing ♥
My parents don't know I own a binder, and when I came back from a school trip my mum found it. I told her it was a vest, even though it was a half one. She believed me though.
Samee!! I have this And body hair shame (?) And im also scared to have top surgery in the future and being topless.......... Cuz, same concept.. altho I'd be so fucking happy.. but it's just... Ugh idk nvm
@@jaiden4393 SAME MY MOM KEEPS SAYING THAT MY CURVES ARE......... AND IM LIKE UGH GOSH PLEASE STOP AND MY DYSPHORIA JUST SPIKES UP... I have really bad top dysphoria and hips dysphoria.. also my voice and my face and my arms and my hands and my fingers and my fricking fingernails and my thighs and my butt, and just EVERYTHING like gosh I wish I could just be cis or at least just a bit taller and more boxy and veiny and idk... I wish my chest was smaller so binding wouldn't be that hard and that I just looked and sounded a bit more masculine........ (Not saying that you gotta be masculine to be a guy, it's just that *I* wanna be a more stereotypically masculine looking guy...)
Me and my friend who packs went swimming and his packer fell out in the pool and i had to awkwardly hug him and grab his packer from behind me at the same time, it was a mr limpy aha, well he doesn't pack anymore after that
Jay Fleming same although it was table tennis for me aha, I just wouldn’t pack on Tuesdays and Wednesdays to avoid PE. Pack everyday now that I’m in college and don’t do PE anymore
i went to disneyland with my family and i was packing (i don’t do it often, but when it’s a large place that i can try to pass better in i’ll pack) and my mom didn’t know what packing was/that i packed. and my packer slipped so it looked very odd in my pants and my mom questioned me about it and i told her my pants were being weird and i shoved it back into place. i was kinda embarrassed because it probably looked weird and now i rarely pack because it makes me uncomfortable to think that someone can tell its not real
Lil RE bro i just got this like underwear meant for packing it comes with this foam thing to use as a packer and THE FOAM THING THEY SENT IS TOO BIG BUT THE UNDERWEAR FITS PERFECTLY why can't anything be easy
I mean I want to, but I feel silly and I’m also afraid that people will notice and ridicule me or just indiscreetly make a face that says “you’re disgusting” (cus in my country people are generally just bad at being discreet when they think something is odd)
Thanks for explaining these kind of things! I’m so grateful that I understand the lgbtq+ community so much better than I did before. I always supported it, but never knew a lot about it! So really, thank you Noah!
Babes out there that need to hear this, if you’re packing, PEOPLE CANNOT TELL ITS PACKING, literally I used to worry so much and it took my cis het female friends to tell me “I don’t know why you worry so much, you can’t tell, No one ever looks down there long enough to tell, and if it they did it would be awkward” and idk why I let myself get immersed in the idea that everyone was looking, when no one wants to look down there.
Actually I saw a video that showed a psychological experiment where they could trace eye movement. They showed cis-het men and women a picture of a male and then showed an image of a shitload of red dots on the groin indicating that's where either the men or women were looking. Most people assumed it was the women but in reality, it ended up being the cis-het men that were looking at the groin area of the male pictures they were shown. Mind blown!
Noah is awesome and I wish I was his friend. He's so down to earth and open? Idk if that's the right word but like he's just great and you can't disagree.
Wearing a binder actually made me more dysphoric when I wear it, just made me 10x more aware about the straps, some shirts you can tell theres soemthign there, and not being able to breathe. I'd constantly be adjusting it, and a lot of people didnt quite understand why I wouldn't wear one but it's just very difficult to wear and it would never be flat enough so it just made me more aware instead of just going on day to day "normal". Now I just wear more layers and its usually "fine" the dysphoria is still there but at least I can breathe. (I also work a lot, so it isnt ideal if I'm working 12-16 hrs. Just wasn't safe.) Dunno if its just me who feelt that way.
So, this is the first video of yours that I've watched, my only other contact with you has been through Evan's channel. And I hope this isn't upsetting or offensive, but I genuinely thought you were MTF Trans that just didn't pass very well. Turns out it's the opposite and you pass so fucking well, holy shit. Thank you for the informative video. Keep ballin'
Yes , sort of like a flat chested girl . No body hair , no muscle , voice could be male or female . He likes guys . I see a girl . Maybe more T is needed . Or maybe that is the look he is going for . Not trying to put anyone down . Just don’t see much of a change other than losing breast .
A cis female here just to let u know I appreciate u and thank you for making educational and entertaining videos, I learn a lot from your videos and want to continue learning! Thank you!
I used to be uncomfortable with packing whenever i tried and it would give me more dysphoria just as you said but just recently i got a packer that actually works for me and makes me feel better!!
Ray its the packer gear ultra soft stp. Its super easy to pee with and not heavy and big like a lot of other ones. Also its super cheap so it’s definitely worth trying i think its like $30 or something. I use it with the ‘multi colour packer harness’ on transguy supplys site.
im nonbinary and i feel similar. i mostly get top dysphoria so I cant wait to get a binder and stuff, but I don't really get bottom dysphoria that often. i do sometimes get a feeling of wanting to pack, and I tried it once and I felt confident and good but also wrong (cause I knew it wasn't a part of me which made me uncomfortable etc.) so yeah
In non binary gender fluid. And I get you. My binder is my lifeline. But recently I got my right nipple pierced... Now I can't ware my binder for another 4 moths. So it's back to baggy ass hoddies on my masc days
I'm not sure what i am at the moment (I just know that my gender assigned at birth is WRONG) but I'm looking to get a binder soon and I'm hella excited 😎😎
i was gonna say the ‘it gives me more dysphoria’ thing for the same reason on twitter but thought it would be a stupid thing to say so it’s great to know i’m not the only ones that feels that
I am not part of the LGBT+ community but Noah, I love these videos! I am so glad you have grown up in a more open (not fully open yet) world so you can share your experiences with others online. I had no idea what a packer was so thank you for, once again, educating me!
My mom saw my sock packer once and she didn't know I packed occasionally and she asked me if it was a sex toy and I was like Bruh it's a sock do you think I would put that up something
S Ward lol, before I learned how to properly masturbate I used to use socks, latex gloves, golf balls, and pillows to fashion myself a makeshift fleshlight. It was an awkward moment when my sister saw me using that once.
Oh, Christ, your comparison to breasts bouncing up and down when you’re running just makes me think of how painful that can get. My breasts are big and sensitive anyway, so that’s just me. Info that no one needed to know but I felt I needed to share anyway because despite being a cis woman, I’m apparently just that uncomfortable about my breasts. Anyway, I’m glad that I came across your channel. I’m getting educational videos and perspectives that I’m not getting on other trans channels. I’ve got several FTM and MTF friends and acquaintances, so I love learning about this stuff.
I don't really have bottom dysphoria but I like to wear a small sock packer sometimes because I feel like it changes the way you walk. Having something in there makes you take wider strides and it personally helps me when I want to pass better.
OMG You described how I feel so completely. Although I am a bigger guy I also get bottom dysphoria and get a lot of the same feeling about packing. I tried for a time but I am to sensitive down there and having something that wasn't part of my body bouncing around unrealistically, and rubbing and chaffing.. actually made the dysphoria worse. Know that your not alone, and it is good to hear from another who feels a bit similar on that. Although there are time I have considered it, like I would love to be able to go to a pool again and not have worry about looking to flat down there under wet clothing. But for day to day. Most people don;t notice that am missing anything. Also had problem of course where most harnesses didn't sit right on my body shape. Also have had the phantom-dick feeling as early as probably around 5 or 6... I know weird... I didn't know about transgender but I had heard about intersex and was almost convinced that must be what was going on, until the soul crushing puberty hit. Always felt like that would be easier to explain to why I felt this way, than something even I in my logic had trouble understanding at the time.
I'm 5 foot 9 and I found meany packers your supposed to chart it to your hight and not your body shape or anything... Well I ended up with two that were to big so I went to a different company and guess what... Huuuge. I may be tall for a born femail in Wales but I'm also biult like a bean cane. So it looks sooo out of place. In the end I gave up and made my own 😅
We've had pretty similar experiences haha! I think once you get far enough in your transition you become more comfortable in yourself and might not need or feel the want to pack. I used to pack every day and now out of a mix of laziness, comfort in myself, and the discomfort of packing itself I just... don't. I used to feel people would clock me if there was nothing there, turns out no-one notices really. Passing, in general, I've stopped fussing over, I'm male and finally don't feel I have to crop my hair super short to not confuse people. Sadly still looking perpetually 16 at 26 though!
Noah,your true is always there for us.You’re just a wonderful human being,helping and informing us like nobody else in this matter.Thank you so much.Love you and respect you from Brazil.
Hello Mr Finnce, This was a really interesting video, i personally don't have bottom dysphoria but i was thinking to start packing lately, like how you sayed, make myself more confortable so thank you very much for the information!
5:20 is the main reason I don’t pack too often. It’s so unfair, to want something you feel that’s missing, but when you try to fix it you only feel worse.
I hear a lot of you guys talking about your packers falling out and things like that, the answer to that is wearing tighter underwear ESPECIALLY when swimming but what I find that helps is wearing a specific brand of underwear when swimming(PSD) it doesn't have a pouch but I usually just put the packer right on top of my area and then I put my trunks on, but what's important is making sure it has that net and it's tight enough against your thighs, I have been swimming in crazy waters and have had absolutely no problem with it even shifting out of place when swimming. As for exercise I usually do almost the same thing, I wear tight underwear with the hole in it since it provides a resting place and it's not rubbing against my legs and then I put PSD underwear over it and it doesn't shift at all and I probably have to move it like once or twice(and I play pretty street basketball). While I use PSD underwear it might not be an option for all as one pair is $25 but if you buy it during sales they can go down to as low as $5-15. The underwear is 100% comfortable and I definitely suggest you get it but if not there are other types you can buy as long as it's compressed. Another thing if you play sports or run you can get compression shorts or compression tights which is almost the same as what I was saying. If you have any questions or anything like that in the comments I can be of help as I tried almost everything to find a comfortable fit for me.
Thanks for the video Noah. Even though I can't relate to it, it's great you talk about this stuff as it is relevant and certainly needs to be understood. Keep going strong mate!
Just wanted to let you know that my man doesn't sport any noticable pack outside of intimate situations, but it grows to a proper beast that I can only just take, when it needs to. I really appreciate how that works. Cheers!
I think it is great you talk about this, i can imagine there are a lot of really really young trans man feeling like they are supposed to do it just bc, while in reality think the samee way as you. this could make them see it is okay
7:39 Supernumerary Phantom Limbs, its when someone believes and receives sensory information from body parts that where never there, it sometimes happens to people after they have a stroke, and therians and otherkin also experience supernumerary phantom limbs, which is super interesting to me.
I’m exactly the same, I’ve been transitioning for over 5 years and packing always makes me MORE dysphoric. I haven’t ruled out bottom surgery at some point in the future but I’m low key worried that if I can’t pack bottom surgery isn’t something I should consider 😅
I mostly stopped packing because I realized that I was just doing it for other people... I'd only wear it when I left the house and immediately took it out when I got home. It stopped helping my dysphoria and started creating it. Another thing that always made me self conscious of it was being around people who knew I was trans and/or knew me before transitioning and having them see it or feel it when we hugged and them knowing it was fake.... that really made me the weirdest about it. I was also always so insecure about how it looked or if it looked unnatural. Way too much anxiety about it. Now it's been over two years since I wore one and I feel ten times better about myself.
hello mr.finnce!!! @mythical5pirit very late to this, but i watched your video last night. i usually watch at least one of your videos at night because i have insomnia and i need to stay entertained :) 💞
I feel exactly the same. I even bought underwear with a packer in already & that's much more comfy and less awkward but the fact that other people who know I'm trans would see that makes me feel WEIRD.
So glad to hear that other people experience more dysphoria while packing :'^) Just the feeling of it down there and how fake it feels is just so upsetting sometimes I basically only pack with soft cup packers, and only when my pants are tight enough in public lmao
Heavily suggest buying a gendercat self adhesive packer. I went from socks (safety pinned at the top and the bottom) to the gendercat and it is awesome!
Hey Noah! I have the same issue with packers that they increase my dysphoria, because you can literally FEEL that there is something fake in the pants. But I found a good solution for me: I use foam inserts that were designed for cis-guys and their swimming trunks. I don't feel that they are there and when I look down, everything looks they way is should look. Maybe you would like to give it a try. I feel so much better now that I found them. :)
If someone wants a packer that doesn't have a chance falling out, I recommend the one from Tranpa himself, Buck Angel. He made a packer that can't fall out because you can attach it to your body, or something. Just go to his website. I really wanna buy that packer, but I don't have the money at the time.
me and my therapist spent 20 minuets in one of my sessions discussing and laughing about the possibility of my packer falling out whilst i was walking down the street. was a very good session- 20/10! humor is great!
If anything I'm struggling to find a smaller packer. I love packing and it makes me feel great and confident but I'm very small so even a 5" packer is too big sometimes.
I initially had the same issues with packing. Then I bought some sports shorts thay have a pouch that is intended to hold a groin guard. I put these on over my regular boxers and put the packer in the pouch. This holds it securely and I feel its more hygienic because its not actually touching me. I now do this daily and don't think about it. It feels weird to me now if I don't pack because I've got used to it so when it's not there I feel like there is something missing. But I don't pack when I'm just at home alone mainly because I'm in lounge wear at home and don't feel I need it. I mainly initially bought a packer as part of my journey to working out if I truely wanted to medically transition and get bottom surgery because in the beginning I wasn't sure if I was more non binary because although I had major chest dysphoria I didn't really have bottom dysphoria so I was quite confused. Experimenting with a packer for me helped me work things out and know more about what I want from my transition when I eventually start medical transition. Currently I've been socially transitioned and fully out for about a year and I feel I need another 6 months or so to be absolutely sure of my decision before hopefully going private to start T.
ive tried sock packing it was uncomfortable and i had to adjust it too often and but it did make me less dysphoric, the thought of me doing it gave me dysphoria because its a constant reminder that its not an exiting limb i was born with.
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For some reason I only pack at like....formal events. Can’t be fancy without a dong, I guess?
Only if you put a tie on it.
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Oh so that’s why I never feel fancy enough! Thanks for the tip 😉 😂
@@grey8288 lol now I'm thinking of the musical Heathers, in the song Blue, "they'll wear a suit and tie. And a fancy collar!" (Referring to that area)
Christal C always here to help, my friend 😌✌🏿
" fully happy willies "
im gonna say that for the rest of my life
i almost spit out my drink when i heard that
its,,,, its because the socks fall down ur jeans at school and everyone looks at you so you say its a prank and then go home sick. not speaking from experience it just happens-
A little tip for that is, grab another sock, and cut it till its around 10-13cm (visually) long, and put your sock packer inside it and just pin it to your underwear
I hope this helped, works perfectly for me. Good luck💫
Maybe wear tighter underwear such as briefs?
i feel your pain - something similar happened to me lmao
Leo eats lemons your profile picture aww bakugou 💞💗💕💓
I feel sorry for you, but I also laughed
My son(trans) was hanging out with a bunch of his friends when he was 14. They were watching a movie and every one was squeezed onto two couches. My son couldn't get comfortable and kept shifting. The friend next to him noticed and said,
"Oh sorry, are you being poked? My packer was uncomfortable. I can move it to my other pocket." He pulled his packer out of his sweatshirt pocket and moved it to the pocket on the other side. I love how comfortable these kids are with one another.
Love that
That is SUCH a mood
Seretonin Dealer /Ok 😑
They sound like nice kids
@• e l i j a h • None of the people in this story use that name.
danny devito just sitting in the corner listening to Noah talk about fake pp for 8 minutes and 30 seconds
That can never be unseen
It's just hearing "hello underachievers" and my day is fixed. LIKE HOW
Alba Torres same omg , also i love your profile pic
It's one of the funnier greetings on all of yt
@@annnee6818 it iss
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He literally sounds like me
Azi_ Playz I realized how much he said and like
Azi_ Playz why Millenials sound LIKE morons, every 4th woes is LIKE.
Ok as a trans woman i totally get the being dysphoric from stuff that alleviate other people's dysphoria, stuffing a bra makes me absolutely miserable and just the thought of like a fake breastplate makes me sick like having it on me just reminds me i dont actually have it
you'll have tits one day, even if they take 5 years to grow or if you just go get surgery. Do you have tits yet? you wrote this 3 years ago.
hearing you tell me “hello underachievers” and “have a good day or don’t, see you later losers” makes me feel really good and happy for some reason lol
I love your username
Thank you very much
Your welcome
5:00 I really feel this, I used to pack regularly at school about a year ago because the feeling of something being there lessened my dysphoria but I always wore huge shirts that would cover it because I didn't want anyone to know. The same thing happened when I first started binding (and I still feel like that around people I just recently came out to). Like I want to hide my chest but I don't want them to know I'm hiding my chest if that makes any sense at all
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Same, I started binding two month ago and I'm not out to my family, so when I wear a binder around them I puff my chest for it to not look flat. Happy to know I'm not alone feeling this weird thing ♥
My parents don't know I own a binder, and when I came back from a school trip my mum found it. I told her it was a vest, even though it was a half one. She believed me though.
Mika Brandhofer I gat it bro
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That one strand of hair on your face gives me life
me looking in the mirror every morning explaining to myself why I am not going to shave my "beard"
@@whitenoise3447 I am SO glad that I clicked to see what this reply was 😂
Someone saw my packer at school once.. that was a fun explanation to make in the changing rooms.. to a transphobe...
I hope you were safe
@@torrinashley6076 Yeah they just said some dumb stuff and continued to misgender me lol. The teachers did nothing was the problem
U n K n o W N B l e A c H that sucks dude I hope you find people who are more supportive of you
@@kitchristopher7 Thanks fellow human.
Silly girl , you will never be a man
Im sorry is that a lil danny devito in the bottom left corner
Omg. I think so.
Haha
I'm pretty sure that's just a regular sized Danny
5:20 main point why I don't pack. It's just a worse feeling than just not packing at all
Samee!!
I have this
And body hair shame (?)
And im also scared to have top surgery in the future and being topless.......... Cuz, same concept.. altho I'd be so fucking happy.. but it's just... Ugh idk nvm
@@jaiden4393 SAME MY MOM KEEPS SAYING THAT MY CURVES ARE......... AND IM LIKE UGH GOSH PLEASE STOP AND MY DYSPHORIA JUST SPIKES UP...
I have really bad top dysphoria and hips dysphoria.. also my voice and my face and my arms and my hands and my fingers and my fricking fingernails and my thighs and my butt, and just EVERYTHING like gosh I wish I could just be cis or at least just a bit taller and more boxy and veiny and idk... I wish my chest was smaller so binding wouldn't be that hard and that I just looked and sounded a bit more masculine........
(Not saying that you gotta be masculine to be a guy, it's just that *I* wanna be a more stereotypically masculine looking guy...)
@@jaiden4393 im so sorry dude :( i feel you..
I rlly hope everything gets better for all of us.
Your actually so brave Noah, like you literally will speak about anything openly and I really respect that 💙💙
Rubber Duck same!
His look when he looks at his hair is adorable lol
Me and my friend who packs went swimming and his packer fell out in the pool and i had to awkwardly hug him and grab his packer from behind me at the same time, it was a mr limpy aha, well he doesn't pack anymore after that
Mine fell out while playing softball in PE smh, still everyday pack tho
@@t0kerrr Awh i hope no one noticed
Jay Fleming same although it was table tennis for me aha, I just wouldn’t pack on Tuesdays and Wednesdays to avoid PE. Pack everyday now that I’m in college and don’t do PE anymore
ur pfp im sorry😍x
@@t0kerrr thats why i dont pack while exercising
i went to disneyland with my family and i was packing (i don’t do it often, but when it’s a large place that i can try to pass better in i’ll pack) and my mom didn’t know what packing was/that i packed. and my packer slipped so it looked very odd in my pants and my mom questioned me about it and i told her my pants were being weird and i shoved it back into place. i was kinda embarrassed because it probably looked weird and now i rarely pack because it makes me uncomfortable to think that someone can tell its not real
reidisdoodling same here, i'd pack and i've TRIED but i can tell it's not real and if somebody else could tell that i think i'd die
Lil RE bro i just got this like underwear meant for packing it comes with this foam thing to use as a packer and THE FOAM THING THEY SENT IS TOO BIG BUT THE UNDERWEAR FITS PERFECTLY why can't anything be easy
Put it in a sock, and sew the sock to your underpants. And then he will not slip anywhere.
I mean I want to, but I feel silly and I’m also afraid that people will notice and ridicule me or just indiscreetly make a face that says “you’re disgusting” (cus in my country people are generally just bad at being discreet when they think something is odd)
Thanks for explaining these kind of things! I’m so grateful that I understand the lgbtq+ community so much better than I did before. I always supported it, but never knew a lot about it! So really, thank you Noah!
same! i learned so much about other people’s experiences and lgbtq+ stuff in general :)
Thanks for being a good ally! Never stop learning!
James White aww thank you so much! I won’t!
when i first got a bank account, i bought a mr limpy off amazon and i was so nervous my parents were gonna find out lmao
dude i want to do that but im so scared my mom or dad is gonna confront mr
That one piece of hair isn't gonna give up until you just can't see.
Babes out there that need to hear this, if you’re packing, PEOPLE CANNOT TELL ITS PACKING, literally I used to worry so much and it took my cis het female friends to tell me “I don’t know why you worry so much, you can’t tell, No one ever looks down there long enough to tell, and if it they did it would be awkward” and idk why I let myself get immersed in the idea that everyone was looking, when no one wants to look down there.
Actually I saw a video that showed a psychological experiment where they could trace eye movement. They showed cis-het men and women a picture of a male and then showed an image of a shitload of red dots on the groin indicating that's where either the men or women were looking. Most people assumed it was the women but in reality, it ended up being the cis-het men that were looking at the groin area of the male pictures they were shown. Mind blown!
Gawd, I love this kid! Smart, funny, and clear-minded.
Noah is awesome and I wish I was his friend. He's so down to earth and open? Idk if that's the right word but like he's just great and you can't disagree.
Nice pfp
Noah always explains something at the beginning of every video, today he brings up his shirt 😂
Wearing a binder actually made me more dysphoric when I wear it, just made me 10x more aware about the straps, some shirts you can tell theres soemthign there, and not being able to breathe. I'd constantly be adjusting it, and a lot of people didnt quite understand why I wouldn't wear one but it's just very difficult to wear and it would never be flat enough so it just made me more aware instead of just going on day to day "normal". Now I just wear more layers and its usually "fine" the dysphoria is still there but at least I can breathe. (I also work a lot, so it isnt ideal if I'm working 12-16 hrs. Just wasn't safe.) Dunno if its just me who feelt that way.
So, this is the first video of yours that I've watched, my only other contact with you has been through Evan's channel. And I hope this isn't upsetting or offensive, but I genuinely thought you were MTF Trans that just didn't pass very well. Turns out it's the opposite and you pass so fucking well, holy shit.
Thank you for the informative video. Keep ballin'
Yes , sort of like a flat chested girl . No body hair , no muscle , voice could be male or female . He likes guys . I see a girl . Maybe more T is needed . Or maybe that is the look he is going for . Not trying to put anyone down . Just don’t see much of a change other than losing breast .
A cis female here just to let u know I appreciate u and thank you for making educational and entertaining videos, I learn a lot from your videos and want to continue learning! Thank you!
really glad that you don’t feel dysphoric every day!! it’ll get better ❤️
Agreed
I used to be uncomfortable with packing whenever i tried and it would give me more dysphoria just as you said but just recently i got a packer that actually works for me and makes me feel better!!
Wait woah. Can you tell me what packer it is?
Ray its the packer gear ultra soft stp. Its super easy to pee with and not heavy and big like a lot of other ones. Also its super cheap so it’s definitely worth trying i think its like $30 or something. I use it with the ‘multi colour packer harness’ on transguy supplys site.
Nathan Cooper thank you so much!
Ray no worries! 😊
im nonbinary and i feel similar. i mostly get top dysphoria so I cant wait to get a binder and stuff, but I don't really get bottom dysphoria that often. i do sometimes get a feeling of wanting to pack, and I tried it once and I felt confident and good but also wrong (cause I knew it wasn't a part of me which made me uncomfortable etc.) so yeah
In non binary gender fluid. And I get you. My binder is my lifeline. But recently I got my right nipple pierced... Now I can't ware my binder for another 4 moths. So it's back to baggy ass hoddies on my masc days
I'm not sure what i am at the moment (I just know that my gender assigned at birth is WRONG) but I'm looking to get a binder soon and I'm hella excited 😎😎
i was gonna say the ‘it gives me more dysphoria’ thing for the same reason on twitter but thought it would be a stupid thing to say so it’s great to know i’m not the only ones that feels that
That shirt looks great on you!!!
I've been binge watching your vids for 3 days now and I think that I'm in love
I am not part of the LGBT+ community but Noah, I love these videos! I am so glad you have grown up in a more open (not fully open yet) world so you can share your experiences with others online. I had no idea what a packer was so thank you for, once again, educating me!
My mom saw my sock packer once and she didn't know I packed occasionally and she asked me if it was a sex toy and I was like Bruh it's a sock do you think I would put that up something
S Ward lol, before I learned how to properly masturbate I used to use socks, latex gloves, golf balls, and pillows to fashion myself a makeshift fleshlight. It was an awkward moment when my sister saw me using that once.
@@tshred666 ok but golf balls...?
Candelaria Martin I used it to simulate what I thought it felt like when someone flexed their kegels. Surprisingly I wasn’t far off.
@@tshred666 what's a kegel?
Minks Rule your pelvic floor muscles.
Noah: “your bad at climbing”
you're
trash rat yes.
trash rat why?
@@pyro2809 wdym, why?
trash rat it’s just a simple spelling mistake
Running with boobs is possibly the worst feeling for me 😑
Oh, Christ, your comparison to breasts bouncing up and down when you’re running just makes me think of how painful that can get. My breasts are big and sensitive anyway, so that’s just me. Info that no one needed to know but I felt I needed to share anyway because despite being a cis woman, I’m apparently just that uncomfortable about my breasts.
Anyway, I’m glad that I came across your channel. I’m getting educational videos and perspectives that I’m not getting on other trans channels. I’ve got several FTM and MTF friends and acquaintances, so I love learning about this stuff.
OKAY YOU HAVE AMAZING TASTE IN MUSIC. I LOVE THOSE ALBUMS IN THE BACK OMFG
I always notice them tooooo
I don't really have bottom dysphoria but I like to wear a small sock packer sometimes because I feel like it changes the way you walk. Having something in there makes you take wider strides and it personally helps me when I want to pass better.
I am non binary, so I either pack or bind. I aim to confuse and make the cis-het people not be able to check off the female or male list
HAHAHA THATS SO SMART
OMG You described how I feel so completely. Although I am a bigger guy I also get bottom dysphoria and get a lot of the same feeling about packing. I tried for a time but I am to sensitive down there and having something that wasn't part of my body bouncing around unrealistically, and rubbing and chaffing.. actually made the dysphoria worse. Know that your not alone, and it is good to hear from another who feels a bit similar on that. Although there are time I have considered it, like I would love to be able to go to a pool again and not have worry about looking to flat down there under wet clothing. But for day to day. Most people don;t notice that am missing anything. Also had problem of course where most harnesses didn't sit right on my body shape. Also have had the phantom-dick feeling as early as probably around 5 or 6... I know weird... I didn't know about transgender but I had heard about intersex and was almost convinced that must be what was going on, until the soul crushing puberty hit. Always felt like that would be easier to explain to why I felt this way, than something even I in my logic had trouble understanding at the time.
Real talk: why are all the packers so huge????? Even the small ones!
Bestboi packer is pretty nice!
Probably the same reason condoms have such a wack sizing system
becuse people think trans guys want giant dick for some reason and forget that theres such thing as small humans
I'm 5 foot 9 and I found meany packers your supposed to chart it to your hight and not your body shape or anything... Well I ended up with two that were to big so I went to a different company and guess what... Huuuge. I may be tall for a born femail in Wales but I'm also biult like a bean cane. So it looks sooo out of place. In the end I gave up and made my own 😅
Keith S created by size queens?
We've had pretty similar experiences haha!
I think once you get far enough in your transition you become more comfortable in yourself and might not need or feel the want to pack. I used to pack every day and now out of a mix of laziness, comfort in myself, and the discomfort of packing itself I just... don't. I used to feel people would clock me if there was nothing there, turns out no-one notices really. Passing, in general, I've stopped fussing over, I'm male and finally don't feel I have to crop my hair super short to not confuse people. Sadly still looking perpetually 16 at 26 though!
Sidenote; I seriously love Noah's hair.
OH BOY the last reason really hit hard, i feel this way about everything related to trans issues being pre-op + only on T for a couple of months
Noah,your true is always there for us.You’re just a wonderful human being,helping and informing us like nobody else in this matter.Thank you so much.Love you and respect you from Brazil.
Hello Mr Finnce,
This was a really interesting video, i personally don't have bottom dysphoria but i was thinking to start packing lately, like how you sayed, make myself more confortable so thank you very much for the information!
Omg he talks like a boomer writing a letter.
@@sobennison7344 i kinda did not gonna lie
My dyslexic ass looking at his T-shirt:
La mé? Like French? What....
Omg love you “I’m French”
You just said the me lol
Yay it's Noah.😊
First like then watch! love you 💙
wow noah your form has changed so much you are so masculine your arms and shoulders dang you look amazing
5:20 is the main reason I don’t pack too often. It’s so unfair, to want something you feel that’s missing, but when you try to fix it you only feel worse.
Yay I’m finally early!!!
I hear a lot of you guys talking about your packers falling out and things like that, the answer to that is wearing tighter underwear ESPECIALLY when swimming but what I find that helps is wearing a specific brand of underwear when swimming(PSD) it doesn't have a pouch but I usually just put the packer right on top of my area and then I put my trunks on, but what's important is making sure it has that net and it's tight enough against your thighs, I have been swimming in crazy waters and have had absolutely no problem with it even shifting out of place when swimming. As for exercise I usually do almost the same thing, I wear tight underwear with the hole in it since it provides a resting place and it's not rubbing against my legs and then I put PSD underwear over it and it doesn't shift at all and I probably have to move it like once or twice(and I play pretty street basketball). While I use PSD underwear it might not be an option for all as one pair is $25 but if you buy it during sales they can go down to as low as $5-15. The underwear is 100% comfortable and I definitely suggest you get it but if not there are other types you can buy as long as it's compressed. Another thing if you play sports or run you can get compression shorts or compression tights which is almost the same as what I was saying. If you have any questions or anything like that in the comments I can be of help as I tried almost everything to find a comfortable fit for me.
Thanks for the video Noah. Even though I can't relate to it, it's great you talk about this stuff as it is relevant and certainly needs to be understood. Keep going strong mate!
Just wanted to let you know that my man doesn't sport any noticable pack outside of intimate situations, but it grows to a proper beast that I can only just take, when it needs to. I really appreciate how that works. Cheers!
I think it is great you talk about this, i can imagine there are a lot of really really young trans man feeling like they are supposed to do it just bc, while in reality think the samee way as you. this could make them see it is okay
I use a sock or a water balloon when I get really dysphoric
I can just imagine the water balloon popping sorry
Mollie Buckley it did, it got a tiny hole and it felt so weird
Azi_ Playz u peed ur pants lol
a watter balloon sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. imagine it randonly popping.
luna Fairywolf aha it did but I was desperate and cuz it had water in it felt like the closest thing to what I was aiming for
Noah I was looking so forward to the play-doh story and you didn't tell it ;)
7:39 Supernumerary Phantom Limbs, its when someone believes and receives sensory information from body parts that where never there, it sometimes happens to people after they have a stroke, and therians and otherkin also experience supernumerary phantom limbs, which is super interesting to me.
Wow! Didn’t have a clue that you’re trans, the change is amazing
I’m exactly the same, I’ve been transitioning for over 5 years and packing always makes me MORE dysphoric. I haven’t ruled out bottom surgery at some point in the future but I’m low key worried that if I can’t pack bottom surgery isn’t something I should consider 😅
Your videos really relax me and give me positive thoughts. Thank you very much
I really care about you and am so glad that you are being youre authentic self
Your hair really looks so good in this video
I mostly stopped packing because I realized that I was just doing it for other people... I'd only wear it when I left the house and immediately took it out when I got home. It stopped helping my dysphoria and started creating it. Another thing that always made me self conscious of it was being around people who knew I was trans and/or knew me before transitioning and having them see it or feel it when we hugged and them knowing it was fake.... that really made me the weirdest about it. I was also always so insecure about how it looked or if it looked unnatural. Way too much anxiety about it. Now it's been over two years since I wore one and I feel ten times better about myself.
You should do stand up! You're hella funny and the way you deliver your story is very good! 🔥🔥
hello mr.finnce!!!
@mythical5pirit
very late to this, but i watched your video last night. i usually watch at least one of your videos at night because i have insomnia and i need to stay entertained :) 💞
I feel exactly the same. I even bought underwear with a packer in already & that's much more comfy and less awkward but the fact that other people who know I'm trans would see that makes me feel WEIRD.
I have a lot of bottom dysphoria, too, I'm relieved to hear I'm not the only one who feels weird about that area and about packers, too.
A King
So glad to hear that other people experience more dysphoria while packing :'^)
Just the feeling of it down there and how fake it feels is just so upsetting sometimes
I basically only pack with soft cup packers, and only when my pants are tight enough in public lmao
It’s 1:30 am
I have a 3 hour art exam in the morning
I’m AMAB
Why am I watching this
bruhh spot onn👏
4:35 I dont pack for the same reason... bc it makes my dysphoria worse, like you said, it reminds me constantly of what I dont have
7:26 his face when he says ťHïçč got me
I stopped packing when my sock bulge ended up falling out while I was doing yard work
In front of the neighbors...
Heavily suggest buying a gendercat self adhesive packer. I went from socks (safety pinned at the top and the bottom) to the gendercat and it is awesome!
You are hilarious... you really should consider stand up comedy. Love you Noah!
"phantom dick"
that had me fucked up
Yeah!!! Packing makes me way more dysphoric because it’s like,,,,, I wouldn’t have to do this. Exactly!
HELLO MR FINNCE lol @leo__noah been waiting for a vid like this for a while glad you made one :)
Hey Noah! I have the same issue with packers that they increase my dysphoria, because you can literally FEEL that there is something fake in the pants. But I found a good solution for me: I use foam inserts that were designed for cis-guys and their swimming trunks. I don't feel that they are there and when I look down, everything looks they way is should look. Maybe you would like to give it a try. I feel so much better now that I found them. :)
I read your shirt as LA and ME as in LA Louisiana and ME as Maine and got distracted and very confused
i feel big pp by being here early except im not which is the problem im watching a video about packing
hey fellow emo!
Love your honesty.
0:48 i realise this has just been in my face
If someone wants a packer that doesn't have a chance falling out, I recommend the one from Tranpa himself, Buck Angel. He made a packer that can't fall out because you can attach it to your body, or something. Just go to his website. I really wanna buy that packer, but I don't have the money at the time.
Have you got it yet just wondering if it's any good
You saying "have a good day or don't" reminded me that I said that to Jude Law on a dream yesterday. Now I know why I said goodbye to him that way.
04:58 that's exactly the reason why I don't pack. I thought I was the only one who has these thoughts. Thanks
me and my therapist spent 20 minuets in one of my sessions discussing and laughing about the possibility of my packer falling out whilst i was walking down the street. was a very good session- 20/10! humor is great!
If anything I'm struggling to find a smaller packer. I love packing and it makes me feel great and confident but I'm very small so even a 5" packer is too big sometimes.
Hey noah, can you cover My love - Sia again? I'd love to hear a full version with your low voice!
I initially had the same issues with packing. Then I bought some sports shorts thay have a pouch that is intended to hold a groin guard. I put these on over my regular boxers and put the packer in the pouch. This holds it securely and I feel its more hygienic because its not actually touching me. I now do this daily and don't think about it. It feels weird to me now if I don't pack because I've got used to it so when it's not there I feel like there is something missing. But I don't pack when I'm just at home alone mainly because I'm in lounge wear at home and don't feel I need it. I mainly initially bought a packer as part of my journey to working out if I truely wanted to medically transition and get bottom surgery because in the beginning I wasn't sure if I was more non binary because although I had major chest dysphoria I didn't really have bottom dysphoria so I was quite confused. Experimenting with a packer for me helped me work things out and know more about what I want from my transition when I eventually start medical transition. Currently I've been socially transitioned and fully out for about a year and I feel I need another 6 months or so to be absolutely sure of my decision before hopefully going private to start T.
HOLY shit, remember when Corry injected him that one time?- HOW IS THAT THE SAME SHIRT???
Haven't watched the video yet but i just HAD to say how GOOD your hair looks before anything okay? thank you have a nice day
I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone talk about why they won’t put something in their pants.....was great video
ive tried sock packing it was uncomfortable and i had to adjust it too often and but it did make me less dysphoric, the thought of me doing it gave me dysphoria because its a constant reminder that its not an exiting limb i was born with.