I’ve done this on several bikes and it works great. BUT, be aware that the ID of the Magura hose is slightly bigger than Shimano. So while the Shimano barb seems like it works. It will eventually start to leak. Use Magura hose and Magura barb with the Shimano olive and nut. 👍🏽
Glad to see someone with prior experience on shigura. So for some reason trying that combo wouldn’t seal right. I know there’s 2 types of shimano barbs. Silver and gold. Gold being the thickest. Trying the combo you’re talking didn’t work. Tried 3 times until I did the gold shimano one. Kinda weird
Thanks for the input bro! I’ll do a long term one. I’m really loving the set up. It light strong lever definitely helps on the longer chunky downhills.
I have done the shigura recently.Replaced my MT7 HC3 levers with Shimano 2014 xt levers. Two rides in North Van on Fromme mountain.Ran them on Pipeline and Expresso. I have found a lot more forearm pump over the other levers. I am going to switch them back.I feel the HC3 lever provides better modulation.
Nice! I love the maguras when they are working properly. But I’ve had multiple brake lever cylinders fail. I’m just waiting for my brake levers to arrive. Shiguras here I come.
They’re really powerful. Quick tips. I ended up using the gold shimano barb which is suppose to be thicker and should fit the magura hose better. I also did the free stroke adjustment. You basically back off the free stroke screw and then bleed it. If you want less free stroke you just screw it in. Good luck!
For situation on 2:20 and 10-15 sec further. There is a fairly cheap tool on Ali Express, it’s about 10$, literally it’s a clamp and press for neede. Really practical. I have one and really saves time and nerves
How does the lever feel? Is it solid and you modulate the brakes by applying more pressure or does the lever move once the brakes start to work and you modulate with more movement? My Maguras currently have a rock solid lever and I want to check the Shimano levers give the same
After a year, would you recommand the Shigura braking system? We are going on a year bike tour on our tandem MTB. So I would have something reliable and powerfull
@@vntcolder im still using the same set up. I’ve had 0 issues with it. Just swapped out pads and that’s it. For me it was the most affordable option and it worked out great! I would definitely do it again.
@@CalaveraChronicles I have the new v4’s as well as mt7’s with hc3 levers. The new hopes are so much better all around! Lever pull is so much lighter, just as powerful, predictable yet not so-much-throw modulation. I love both of them, but I would replace my maguras with more hopes in a heartbeat.
Hi.I'm going to do the same with my brakes.I'm thinking of using Magura Royal blood oil.Magura oil has a higher viscosity and withstands higher temperatures and heating during operation.What do you think?What pin you use on a hose?Magura or Shimano pin?What ID (inside diameter) BH-90 is 2.1mm wide ID,and BH-59 is 2.5mm ID,the BH-59 pins are made of brass usually,and BH-90 out of stainless steel?Obviously for Magura oil it would be better with a bigger one ID pin.
Sorry bro I missed your message! Yeah I used royal blood on this set up. I used the gold barb which I believe is the wider one. I did try the silver one but it was too small. I’m at a year now and no issues! I just swapped out the rear pads though. I’m at 1000 miles on the decoy so I feel like they lasted pretty good. Good luck!
@@zdravo4 so as far as the whole set up goes. There’s definitely a more on and off feel. Really powerful. Definitely takes a couple rides to get use to. At first I thought I was having trouble with traction but in reality I was locking up the wheels a lot easier. Once I got use to it I didn’t get as much hand fatigue on longer downhills. Idk why but I also feel like my pads last a little longer. I love magura but the levers sucked. They would eventually start to leak and they are expensive to swap out. Mt7 master cylinder levers=$180each xt brake master cylinder levers $50-$80 each. The magura levers also were more time consuming to bleed. So I guess my answer would be as a whole set up. Brakes are more powerful,easier to work on and more affordable(depending on what brake pads you use on the magura calipers since there are 2 kinds. 4 piece or 2 piece. I feel like they both work the same for me.) so if you prefer a stronger bike with less modulation this will work great for you. I’m still on this set up. The only thing I’ve done is put new pads on which I just got the purple galfer ebike pads which I’m loving!
@@CalaveraChronicles OK great to hear that you are satisfied in positive way. Well I just meant to write try Galfer. I had XTR 180mm rotors, brand new and I didn’t liked them. So I bought Galfer 180mm with Galfer Red pads (its advanced compoumd, purple is even better as it’s for ebikes). So sombine that kind of rotor with your setup and you have the best possible brake combo. In the future I will probabyl go for Magura calipers, 4 pot of course
Can I use the Shimano hose connecting to the Magura caliber? The reason I'm asking is I don't want to run a new Magura hose through the frame for the rear brake. TIA.
I haven’t tried that. It was a pain to run the hose but after doing it once I can confidently do it again. I taped the new one with the old one and just pulled it into the frame slowly. It wasn’t too bad
😂 Night and day difference from sram. These are more on and off feeling. You just have to be light on the levers for modulation. Less fatigue for sure. To be honest I’m still getting use to them at the moment. I really like them so far.
I usually have good luck with them. These were sets that my friend had laying around. On my sb150 they lasted like 2 years and they started to leak. I sent them in and they took care of them pretty fast
Spend far more time in shop removing this setup and going to a full brake of either brand. Imo a shigura setup has terrible modulation and is just a bad idea in general. I refuse to fit mixed brake parts now.
So far this set up has been really good to me on the ebike. I just recently did a trail where it’s steep,fast and long I felt no brake fade or hand/finger fatigue. I do get how it’s not for everyone though. Just like sram isn’t for everyone . Is there any problem I should look for? Im at 120 miles on them now.
@@CalaveraChronicles I can only speak from my own experience but the first ones I rode on a cube ebike were eye watering they were so powerful, but they were more on/off than anything else I’ve used and would get spongy much faster as the pads wear than I expected. That was the only setup I’ve tried for a fair bit but tested lots at work. Problem for me would be firstly warranty which is void on both parts, choice of fluid as the mineral oil additives differ slightly and each make their seals specifically for that formula mineral although saying that most issues come from the hose connectors or damage to the levers. I get that people don’t like the plastic feel on maguras and I seem to have been lucky with my mt7’s despite a few crashes but brakes is the one thing I do not want any concerns about in terms of failures. I’m not a sram fan either the only dot brakes I like are the hopes. All that being said it comes down to feel at the lever for me and that is purely subjective so if you like the setup then you send it buddy 👍
I’ve done this on several bikes and it works great. BUT, be aware that the ID of the Magura hose is slightly bigger than Shimano. So while the Shimano barb seems like it works. It will eventually start to leak. Use Magura hose and Magura barb with the Shimano olive and nut. 👍🏽
Glad to see someone with prior experience on shigura. So for some reason trying that combo wouldn’t seal right. I know there’s 2 types of shimano barbs. Silver and gold. Gold being the thickest. Trying the combo you’re talking didn’t work. Tried 3 times until I did the gold shimano one. Kinda weird
@@CalaveraChronicles good to know. I’d only had the issue with the silver ones.
Thanks for the input bro! I’ll do a long term one. I’m really loving the set up. It light strong lever definitely helps on the longer chunky downhills.
Hey, thanks for the info... but which Shimano olive? BH59 or BH90?
I apologize for the delay the bag says 96,63,59
Bh59 in another label 🏷️
I have done the shigura recently.Replaced my MT7 HC3 levers with Shimano 2014 xt levers.
Two rides in North Van on Fromme mountain.Ran them on Pipeline and Expresso.
I have found a lot more forearm pump over the other levers.
I am going to switch them back.I feel the HC3 lever provides better modulation.
What a great patient detailed video. Thank you.
So rad dude. I run Magura brakes and so does my son. I might have to try this. Love the new background. Keep up the good work brother.
Thanks bro for always having a positive comment! 🍻 it’s a good alternative incase you break a lever
Nice! I love the maguras when they are working properly. But I’ve had multiple brake lever cylinders fail. I’m just waiting for my brake levers to arrive. Shiguras here I come.
They’re really powerful. Quick tips. I ended up using the gold shimano barb which is suppose to be thicker and should fit the magura hose better. I also did the free stroke adjustment. You basically back off the free stroke screw and then bleed it. If you want less free stroke you just screw it in. Good luck!
@@CalaveraChronicles thanks for the pro tips. Cant wait to ride the. North Shore with this combo.
For situation on 2:20 and 10-15 sec further. There is a fairly cheap tool on Ali Express, it’s about 10$, literally it’s a clamp and press for neede. Really practical. I have one and really saves time and nerves
Yeah I saw it and I’m definitely going to order it
Just done this, it is for real, no hype, they are mint.
Take a little bit to get use to but man they have some power
@Calavera Chronicles for sure bro, easily noticeable.👌
Hi bro nice eg on the background i can tell in the headlights JDM❤
Thanks bro! It’s a 94 si
How does the lever feel?
Is it solid and you modulate the brakes by applying more pressure or does the lever move once the brakes start to work and you modulate with more movement?
My Maguras currently have a rock solid lever and I want to check the Shimano levers give the same
Definitely more on and off. I actually rode my sb150 at the bike park and felt like they had more modulation than the shigura.
After a year, would you recommand the Shigura braking system? We are going on a year bike tour on our tandem MTB. So I would have something reliable and powerfull
@@vntcolder im still using the same set up. I’ve had 0 issues with it. Just swapped out pads and that’s it. For me it was the most affordable option and it worked out great! I would definitely do it again.
I like how my stock MT7s but if my magura starts leaking I'd probably just get the new Hope tech 4 v4
Those look sick! Let me know how they feel if you ever get them
@@CalaveraChronicles I have the new v4’s as well as mt7’s with hc3 levers. The new hopes are so much better all around! Lever pull is so much lighter, just as powerful, predictable yet not so-much-throw modulation. I love both of them, but I would replace my maguras with more hopes in a heartbeat.
I have been running Shiguras based on the cheap MT Trail brakes for a little over a year now and don't plan on ever using anything else.
Same here! I really like them
Hi.I'm going to do the same with my brakes.I'm thinking of using Magura Royal blood oil.Magura oil has a higher viscosity and withstands higher temperatures and heating during operation.What do you think?What pin you use on a hose?Magura or Shimano pin?What ID (inside diameter) BH-90 is 2.1mm wide ID,and BH-59 is 2.5mm ID,the BH-59 pins are made of brass usually,and BH-90 out of stainless steel?Obviously for Magura oil
it would be better with a bigger one ID pin.
Sorry bro I missed your message! Yeah I used royal blood on this set up. I used the gold barb which I believe is the wider one. I did try the silver one but it was too small. I’m at a year now and no issues! I just swapped out the rear pads though. I’m at 1000 miles on the decoy so I feel like they lasted pretty good. Good luck!
Thanks
@@CalaveraChronicles
@@CalaveraChronicles Do you use magura tubes or shimano? Actually I have the magura mounted on my bike. Can I use the shimano pin on it?
So what are the diferences comparison to shimano calipers? Much more power I guess.
@@zdravo4 so as far as the whole set up goes. There’s definitely a more on and off feel. Really powerful. Definitely takes a couple rides to get use to. At first I thought I was having trouble with traction but in reality I was locking up the wheels a lot easier. Once I got use to it I didn’t get as much hand fatigue on longer downhills. Idk why but I also feel like my pads last a little longer. I love magura but the levers sucked. They would eventually start to leak and they are expensive to swap out. Mt7 master cylinder levers=$180each xt brake master cylinder levers $50-$80 each. The magura levers also were more time consuming to bleed. So I guess my answer would be as a whole set up. Brakes are more powerful,easier to work on and more affordable(depending on what brake pads you use on the magura calipers since there are 2 kinds. 4 piece or 2 piece. I feel like they both work the same for me.) so if you prefer a stronger bike with less modulation this will work great for you. I’m still on this set up. The only thing I’ve done is put new pads on which I just got the purple galfer ebike pads which I’m loving!
@@CalaveraChronicles OK great to hear that you are satisfied in positive way. Well I just meant to write try Galfer. I had XTR 180mm rotors, brand new and I didn’t liked them. So I bought Galfer 180mm with Galfer Red pads (its advanced compoumd, purple is even better as it’s for ebikes). So sombine that kind of rotor with your setup and you have the best possible brake combo. In the future I will probabyl go for Magura calipers, 4 pot of course
@zdravo4 in on 203 rotors aswell. Thank you!
Very nice bro🤘🏽
They worked out great!
It looks like bh90 is the correct fittings for xt brakes?
I ended up using the gold color one. I think it’s wider/thicker and it fit the magura hoses perfect.
where did you buy these ??! cant find them anywhere online?
My local bike shop had the levers in stock and my friend gave me the calipers
the lever of the xt includes the compression nut or do you buy separately ???
Mine came with the compression nut
Can I use the Shimano hose connecting to the Magura caliber? The reason I'm asking is I don't want to run a new Magura hose through the frame for the rear brake. TIA.
I haven’t tried that. It was a pain to run the hose but after doing it once I can confidently do it again. I taped the new one with the old one and just pulled it into the frame slowly. It wasn’t too bad
Can we do it with the mt5 to?
You should be able to. Same bango fitting. Just gotta make sure you get the right barb and olive
“Hammer those nuts straight on them Ho’s” Is all what I heard 😂 Nice tutorial! How is the modulation of brakes?
😂 Night and day difference from sram. These are more on and off feeling. You just have to be light on the levers for modulation. Less fatigue for sure. To be honest I’m still getting use to them at the moment. I really like them so far.
Shimano will work with royal blood? will it work the other way round as well with shimano fluid in magura brakes?
yes, it should work either way. They both use mineral oil.
Barb should be bh59 or bh90 ?
I had no luck using the bh90(silver color) my brakes are still going on strong with the bh59(gold color)
P mountain?
I can’t confirm or deny 😅
@@CalaveraChronicles 😉
I cannot believe a German company would engineer brake levers out of plastic that cracks and fails.
I usually have good luck with them. These were sets that my friend had laying around. On my sb150 they lasted like 2 years and they started to leak. I sent them in and they took care of them pretty fast
Never had a problem in two years .And I ride the North Shore .MT7 with HC3 levers.
Spend far more time in shop removing this setup and going to a full brake of either brand. Imo a shigura setup has terrible modulation and is just a bad idea in general. I refuse to fit mixed brake parts now.
So far this set up has been really good to me on the ebike. I just recently did a trail where it’s steep,fast and long I felt no brake fade or hand/finger fatigue. I do get how it’s not for everyone though. Just like sram isn’t for everyone . Is there any problem I should look for? Im at 120 miles on them now.
@@CalaveraChronicles I can only speak from my own experience but the first ones I rode on a cube ebike were eye watering they were so powerful, but they were more on/off than anything else I’ve used and would get spongy much faster as the pads wear than I expected. That was the only setup I’ve tried for a fair bit but tested lots at work. Problem for me would be firstly warranty which is void on both parts, choice of fluid as the mineral oil additives differ slightly and each make their seals specifically for that formula mineral although saying that most issues come from the hose connectors or damage to the levers. I get that people don’t like the plastic feel on maguras and I seem to have been lucky with my mt7’s despite a few crashes but brakes is the one thing I do not want any concerns about in terms of failures. I’m not a sram fan either the only dot brakes I like are the hopes. All that being said it comes down to feel at the lever for me and that is purely subjective so if you like the setup then you send it buddy 👍
Sick! I appreciate you taking the time to comment brother! Thank you!
@@Adam-vm8kp how do you get rid of magura brake rub? my mt7 hc3s were unusable due to brake rub
to much digital modulation!
i change back after 2 yaers shigura to mt5 with hc levers and trickstuff pads!
mutch verry better for me.
There’s still going strong! I haven’t had any issues. Modulation has been consistent