They're not smart. They think they can be manipulative and dominant but in reality they're dumb gorillas. They think and behave just like animals not humans. Actually slightly wrong. Wild animals actually have shown they have feelings. Psychopaths have none. They are worse than robots. Lying manulipative irresponsible cowardly cold fake robots.
Is it the look like they’ll eat you?!? That they could hurt you and feel nothing? Like they want complete control? What if they stare at you during sex? That freaks me out
Jay Ell my ex boyfriend did the same thing & I saw a similar thing. It’s like their soul drains & its something inhuman staring back at you. Startling to experience
Because there's no humanity there. Call it soul. Call it whatever we have evolved that makes a difference between man and our apelike ancestors. These people are devoid of that, they are soulless animals without anything in them that makes them human.
John 3:16 do you lie a lot? Have promiscuous sex? Do you believe you are entitled? Do you not care how you hurt others? Are you happy if someone is hurting physically or emotionally?
@wyeth yes that's what I got from my stalker. She just sit and stare when asked why is she so obsessed. It was very wierd feeling almost like I was an apple and she was deciding to bite me or toss me away. Each day was a different state which gave me and my wife uneasy. As she stares at us in the back ground she was making you tube about us all lies and trying to play she was the victim which was far from the truth.
My theory regarding impaired eye contact is that the stare has nothing at all to do with eye contact. My observation is that their mind is too overwhelmed with thought in that moment to control what’s going on with their face. They’re evaluating and judging and calculating potential responses, and more importantly they haven’t decided what emotion they want to display so they display none. Its like a frozen webpage.
"...they haven’t decided what emotion they want to display so they display none..." I think that, in many cases, this is precisely what is occuring. Your observation dovetails with the nearly universal "lack of affect" displayed by such persons. I can conceive of that split second as being a "manipulation algorithm". Serious food for thought.
Yeah if my boss is talking too Mee about a job, I notice he can see me not making a face, I'm trying to think ahead of me details of the job and what I might go wrong, when he stops talking sometimes I don't completely answer the question but I do ask about a specific details I am concerned about
When i sociopath stare, im often in two places at once concentrating on everything im seeing whilst imagining what i want. I'd describe it as augmented fantasy.
@@MrBernardhard I think most people are using extreme confirmation bias here anyone engaging in a violent situation likely will have a "psycho" stare. it's more due to the intensity and mindset of the moment.
So true! I experienced it YEARS ago. I felt someone staring in my direction. I casually looked over and made split second eye contact with this person. It literally pierced me to my core and still haunts me to this day!
It's predatory and menacing. It's telling the one being stared at I don't care if you are annoyed by what I do, I'm going to violate your boundaries and make you feel uncomfortable and there is nothing you can do about it. It's hostile.
My boss gave me this stare twice yesterday when he was threatening me. I refused to look away. I consider it like staring at a dog, his eyes were just dead & I’m glad that I stood my ground! But I’ll be gone soon...
My dad gets a stare that completely changes his face, esp in anger, like he's not even human... just the embodiment of murderous rage. It was terrifying growing up with it. I'm thankful I survived childhood long enough to get out. The trauma and mental/emotional damage are my battle even now after being free from him for years. They are like rabid predators who assault your mind and body at random over nothing. So incredibly toxic and destructive. I know this stare all too well. It is a real thing.
That’s exactly how my mother can often look at me. Especially when she’s mad. It’s like I’m not her daughter. Everyone thinks that her being a sociopath is too “far-fetched” and I’ve been told when describing her characteristics that “maybe she’s autistic and that’s why she seems to not have empathy”. This video made me cry because I finally feel more understood. I was just watching videos with autistic adults, trying to see in their eyes what I see in my mother’s but it’s not the same. My father has many characteristics that could associate him with sociopathy too, but I haven’t seen him in years and I’ve tried to forget everything about him so I can’t seem to remember how he looked at me, but I know it was blank. I don’t know if it had the “murderous” as you said element though like my mother does. Can I please ask you how you understood that your father is a sociopath/psychopath? I mean does he have a diagnosis, is it based on characteristics that you read? Or is it just the stare that you can recognize in him and not the entire disorder? I’m asking because I’m doubting myself so much about this and I can’t seem to find a good answer. I feel like understanding my parents’ disorders could really help me find peace within myself at least for a bit. I’m sorry if that’s not something you want to talk about. Thank you for your comment🤍
When you unmask a psycho or sociopath they may give you that stare. Bloody hell it's incredible. The death stare is what I call it. Intensively creepy to say the least. Yet you see first hand how much they put into their acting.
Sorry to hear that. It's difficult, mine was very troubled and vulnerable which made it difficult to leave. Best wishes, I'm free now and life has returned.
If you haven't experienced the narc/sociopathic stare, just like with anything else , you won't get it. I had this happen to me and I knew to avoid this person. They were looking at me the way a predator looks at prey. They were sizing me up to see what sort of supply I was good for. They let me know exactly what they were because I was aware of the stare to begin with. It was weird.
@filthy animal Sometimes it's intentional, but many times it is because lack of empathy makes the sociopath unaware that constant eye contact might make someone uncomfortable.
@filthy animal hmm, i hold eye contact a lot, and i have to look away because i dont know how to but i needed to to come off as normal. id also try to manipulate my body language so id look normal, like looking to the sides when they are talking to fake laughing to fake caring, because i dont feel anything for anyone going through a ruff time or when something sad happens so them, i sometime don’t know what to do since i had no empathy and so id stand there while they cried on my shoulder wishing they’d shut up and leave but then i knew that that pushed them away from me so i had to act and learned how to fake care and say things that would calm a person and seem like i cared when in reality i didnt care. When its my turn to speak i do break eye contact i don’t think its Necessary to hold it because i know it might come off as lying in certain situations so id look maybe right when remembering something and then hold eye contact and say it, and when they are speaking id hold eye contact to show I’m listening when i dont really care unless if its something i need to hear and use. Idk why I’m commenting on this but i dont think there’s nothing wrong with me so there’s no problem.
@filthy animal so would it mean I’m not a psychopath? I do like to watch people hurt which would make me sadistic and i was diagnosed with ODD which is linked to aspd, i also looked at a traits list and i had about 10+ of the 15 on the list and i dont feel empathy for people. If you aren’t a psychopath and you do the same then i guess I’m not and its normal?
@filthy animal ok, then everything makes sense, well I can’t be diagnosed yet so I can’t have them do what ever they do to diagnose someone with aspd. So if you have aspd and you do all of what i do that would make me a possible psychopath. Which then i would need the diagnosis to confirm it. The wait is ridiculously long unless there’s an alternative which by what iv researched there is none, but I feel the wait will strengthen all the traits and tendencies i have. Idk what to do tho.
Isn't looking for what you are good for a normal thing? Everyone do that sort of social interactions. It's just less subtle especially with extroverted individuals. More obvious with introverts.
I call that 'demon eyes'. It is very easy to see, even if they are pretending. It is cold, dead, dark, evil - that look in the eyes - and often very piercing and intense (and not in a good way) - and can send chills down the spine.
Growing up in 80's / 90's Los Angeles I know the look. A lot of older gangsters have those eyes. Of course it all comes together when you notice the crude prison tattoos and paranoid demeanor
I’ve seen this first hand several times. It’s very real. The feeling you get is horrifying. You feel like the person that gives you this stare has no soul and is a source of pure evil. Like you’ve just made eye contact with a sinful soulless being.
My friend is a psych nurse and she described this very thing after shaking my ex husbands hand during our divorce, child in need of care and pfa hearings, where he convinced everyone I was dangerous and should never see my kids again.
@Chris Lloyd When you are broken, beaten and had your life threatened by someone with that stare, it's not giving them too much credit. It's a warning to others to be aware that these types of people are real. They exist. People should know that there are real consequences that have real damage and life threatening potential. If you see that stare, don't ignore your instincts, don't give them the benefit of the doubt. Get out of the situation immediately and don't look back.
Eww yes you're correct, my mom stared at me and had the wackiest grin on her face while we passed each other in traffic. My husband at the time was with me and he looked at me and said oh wow that was some look. I also always had a strange feeling around her, like something deep in me was telling me to keep my distance. My brother passed away under her roof and to this day we don't know what happened. A healthy 17 yr old kid died in his sleep. I may be wrong but something tells me to keep away from that thing.
I've noticed three different "creepy looks." The first is what I've termed "Dead Man Eyes" (blank, cold emotionless). The second is "The Death Ray" (sheer, naked hostility). Third has been mentioned by others: "Duper's Delight" (the involuntary smirk when they know that they have fooled and/or hurt you). None of them seem to indicate a healthy personality.
The hostile/ contempt filled stare can also be delivered with a smile, for example in photos, and the smile comes across first while the contemptuous stare can be missed entirely unless one looks closely. Due to this things like these they manage to pull off looking harmless pretty well..
That depends on ones definition of "healthy". How many geniuses, or very successful business owners also use drugs of various types? That sounds unhealthy to some, but to others it's perfect because they know just like these "stare" scenarios that the beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I was a mental health counselor for twenty years and had one incident with a paranoid schizophrenic. He had it in his head that I and his roommate were stealing from him. He came to the office to confront me and got to within a foot of me. His pupils filled his whole eye and he stared THROUGH me, not at me. Truly unforgettable, but I managed to de-escalate the situation and had him leave. I should have received a bonus.
It's kind of the same thing essentially but it's normal. Psychopaths can get fixated or not know what emotions to fake at that time. You have a reptilian mind but a mammalian one as well. Psychopaths don't have a properly functioning mammalian mind but still have reptile qualities like the predatory stare.
@@savagetruthercritic8646 Nah.. Disassociation is just zoning out and staring blankly into space. A predatory stare is full of hatred and contempt. Hardly the same thing
Zoning out can also be an autistic trait, probably having to do with disassociation. Was part of the reason I couldn't pass school. I can only take so much of a social situation, and then if I can't physically leave it, I'll do it mentally without even knowing it.
My anxiety sometimes makes my eye contact seem "intense" or "penetrating" because I hate eye contact when I'm anxious, yet I try to force it even though I desperately want to look away. So it might come off like a sociopathic stare, and this misinterpretation makes me depressed to think that some people might think I'm a sociopath. People, please don't be so immediately judgemental and realize that you might be wrong about some people.
@Galaxi so did I. Except I get anxious so i try to force myself to stare and other people get uncomfortable and look away. But i'm only trying to better myself at eye contacy
I have the same problem on the autism spectrum... I'm always afraid people will interpret my lack of eye contact as disinterest, so I try to look but get so uncomfortable that I forget to actually pay attention to what they're saying. I also have to fight back random facial expressions like smiling at the worst times, so awkward. ugh.
If it's not natural to you.. Don't do it.. Don't conform to social norms that are not normal to you. I could never hold eye contact for years.. And I still can't.. unless I'm comfortable, if I'm in control, or find the person engaging these day... I'm cool with that.. But if I feel intensity or anxiety, I don't force it.. I just act comfortable with not wanting to.. This allows me to still project myself confidently lessing the anxiety of others "supposed" expectations.
A lot of retarded responses telling you to not follow the social behavioral norms, but this is exactly what makes people socially isolated and miserable as they don't pass the image of someone trustworthy. You need to strike down the anxiety and try to live normally after that, not just accept it and live excluded from the society.
A guy I dated very briefly described himself as easy going with a moral compass. One evening as I was lying on the bed out of nowhere he slapped me and then grabbed my face. While he gripped my face he homed in on me and had this extremely intense blank stare that slowly examined each of my eyes individually back and forth multiple times without saying a word I could feel a force of distain coming from him. I was completely none reactive. It was like I had been stunned. I then whispered ‘what are you thinking?’ He calmly replied ‘You don’t want to know’. This is my only experience of what I think is a sociopath/ psychopath.
When I was a kid, some of the bullies in school had this kind of stare. Cold, dead eyes with hooded lids, but with an expression like they could watch you die with no regret. I’ll never forget those faces.
I experienced this stare from a murderer on a witness stand who caught my eye as a juror. He had stabbed a professor to death and we were to decide on degree and his state of mind at the time. I will never forget his cold, dark stare. I’m not one to be intimidated by nature, but I was the first to look away and will never forget it.
I had the misfortune to see a real psychopathic stare. It exists but it's not what movies show or people believe it is. Psycho and sociopath experience very weak emotions and emotions make your eyes move or blink. That's why they tend not to move their eyes from your face. All people look at the interlocutor's eyes, but people with strong emotions unconsciously tend to move their eyes, but psychopaths don't. High-functioning psychopaths don't have this stare because they learned to hide that
@@hoonta0h687 Funny you should say that - I was just about the post a comment about how they wait for you to say something they can use AGAINST you. They are paying GREAT attention - just WAITING for you to say something that will give them a chance to demean, belittle, criticise, devalue or humiliate you in front of others. And you have just provided me with a PERFECT example! Thank-you!
NO WAY would any "normal" person interpret that stare as "attraction". Once you've seen it, you'll NEVER make that mistake of "misinterpretation" again. That stare absolutely penetrates you, and whatever is behind it is evil.
My father stared at us children with small round cold eyes before he hit us! We called it "the squirrel look", Once he almost killed my sister. We knew, when he's switching to that stare, we have to run and hide anywhere to protect ourselves. Once I locked myself in the bathroom and since he couldn't catch me, he destroyed all my paintings in my room.
That stare is like looking into the eyes of a snake. There is nothing behind the eye. A blank look on the face and penetrating, evil, hostile stare. Meant to intimidate, and threaten the normal person. I have experienced the stare from my sister, who is a narcissist, of the worst type. Knew what she was, and just ignored the staring. Needless to say I cut all contact, and have no regrets.
I will never forget the look my ex gave me when he said without any emotion “I could kill someone, even a member of my family and not feel a thing” terrifying.
I was in a deep psychosis for a long time, I developed blank stares, once I accidentally saw my reflection in the mirror and my eyes were dark, I scared myself into self care, haven't looked back since. I was raised by a narc mom, then married into a family that honestly, was like it's own cult. Now, after journaling, crying, dancing, music, yoga, water, meditation, healthier food, AND CHANNELS LIKE THIS....Im better than ever before! If I can do it, anyone can! I'd go many moons without talking, eating, sleeping, cleaning, showering, utter DARKNESS, I crawled out!
I'm so very proud of your strength and dedication to making a better life than you were given. I pray that you're still on a healing path, with lots of unexpected joys. ❤️🙏💞
I pray you are still doing well and are healing from this. I don’t know if you believe in Jesus but I want to tell you He loves you so much. God is the best parent one can have. I know my relationship with Jesus is the best decision I ever made. He is my best friend, so loving and always there for me with open arms even when I mess up (which I often do). He still loves and cares for me and I don’t know how I would have gone though so things without Him by my side. I know you are so precious to Him and that if you ever want to turn to Jesus, He is right there with opens and loving arms. I pray for you to have peace, love, and joy each day. God bless you ❤️
I used to work with a guy who would stare at me non stop. He lacked empathy I noticed and over time devoted much time trying to control me or hurt me emotionally. It was very intense...
Recognizing the stare and being in tune with my discomfort, unease and confusion about it fueled me to move on from someone I was dating. I initially questioned if everything was okay with him because the moment felt off. His response was odd. He listed the qualities of a good women. Since I had those qualities he was in love with me. It was like a robot from a 70's sci-fi low budget film response. No passion. Just emptiness. He said our meeting was lucky for me since I'm an older woman. He would express joy when I shared difficult things from my life. I shared my Dad was diagnosed with late stage prostate cancer. All new to our family. He said, Good! Nobody has to worry what's going to take him out. He was upbeat and jovial as the conversation proceeded. Trust your discomforts. A few days later he returned to the conversation. He pushed a narrative of concern, care and love for my entire family. As if someone told him how he should have responded the first time.
The "serial killer stare".. it can be intense. The moment they slip up and for a moment reveal their true character, then quickly change it once they realize you're not reacting the way they want you to.
I have seen a stare that I would characterize as "serial killer stare" as the stare communicated to me that they had just discovered their next victim and they were relishing the thought of it. Luckily for me, their fantasy did not occur. It happened to me twice at work with two different attorneys, years apart. Another time happened at the grocery store. Another time it happened at a car dealership in the parts department. It is a look that cuts you to the bone and sets off your intuition alarm. Very creepy.
👀They ABSOLUTELY can tell who is susceptible to them. And from personal AND professional experience I have to wonder if you had a traumatic childhood, possibly at the hands of a Narcissist or Sociopath? You don't have to answer, but if you have I do hope you've gotten specific help about these predators. Best to you. ❤️🙏💞
@@lulumoon6942 No I haven't had such an experience. Just keen intuition/awareness of my surroundings and of people's behavior. I believe that intuition/awareness has kept me from becoming a victim of such. Thank you for your concern.
I experienced this psychopathic stare from a man in line at the coffee shop. I interpreted it as an attraction but soon found out it was manipulation. He was trying to lead me to a parking lot and then his car parked in a dark corner. The stare turned into a conversation about real estate while we walked. Unbeknownst to me the talking took me to the beginning of a parking lot away from others the he said I got a business card for you in my car which was further away in a dark corner. At that point my street sense kicked in and I could see what he was really trying to do. I froze and then turned around going back towards the people. He was gonna get hurt cuz I’m not the one.
In my experience, those who stare like this are sizing you up. I don't think they even know they are doing it sometimes. I've seen it a few times, it reminds me of the unblinking stare of a death adder before it strikes.
Congrat's, there Bunny, a little "over the top" maybe... BUT you've come about closest to the essence of a generic "stare" that I know. I've faced down more than a couple obvious socio-paths... I won't pretend to know purely the academic differences between socio/psycho... nor try to lead you on with some babbling nonsense about any diagnostics... In my experience, however, a stare in essence is just that... study. Whether someone's sizing you up as prey or a resource, adding a depth of perception about your roles in bystander or confronter, whatever else(?)... It's study. There are rare exceptions when "the stare tactic" is employed to unnerve you, to "rattle your cage" so to speak by patiently repeating the act until you meet their gaze... and I've been "there" too, but outwardly, there's little or no relevant difference to perceive. You can ONLY know that you're being stared at... probably measured. (even as a bonus simply for trying to non-verbally challenge you)... Importantly, regardless of what it reminds you of, at the time, it's worth understanding that you have limited choices in the situation. You can challenge it. You can ignore it (at your peril). OR You can go on about life, simply noting it. It takes some dubious levels of personal confidence and consideration to make an appropriate and effective choice. AND it's worth admitting that nobody gets it "right" ALL the time. You can't exactly diagnose based on a stare, however vacuous or glassy-eyed. "At your peril" is to say, totally ignoring someone staring at you is probably the single worst choice to make, most of the time. While you can't exactly diagnose them from the stare, better to at least recognize that you're either being measured up for something (plotting on you at least) or directly challenged. Ignoring a challenge is as dangerous as retorting "Sure, I'll play along!" without knowing what the hell game you're volunteering to play. Sociopaths and Psychopaths find their own "fulfillment" in measures and ways that we "normal people" don't even understand. It's really just that simple, and without turning into an "Us versus Them" kind of derogatory filth-fest, we don't have to openly invite disasters just because those disasters have intellect and will of their own. How to effectively navigate or circumvent a "lunatic" (umbrella term for aggressive enemy, regardless of psychological balance or impediment) is a damn dubious thing at the best of times. It's only really useful to point out that it CAN be done in most circumstances, and for those remaining (where it can't be circumvented?)... You should definitely learn how to defend yourself physically. At some level EVERYONE should do that much, not because being a pacifist is "dumb"... BUT because the world at large is physical, and there ARE really horrible people around who mean you harm, simply to mean you harm. ;o)
gnarth d'arkanen - very useful & interesting information, there - you've put a lot of thought into this! I will bear all your analysis in mind. Thanks for the help.
@@BunnyUK, You're certainly welcome... It just seemed "about time" on this thread for someone to put something interesting and useful, rather than accuse you of symptomatic behavior or flat out lying about animal biology... I'd be disingenuous to suggest that there aren't some stares and moments that totally unnerve us (me, too?) BUT it's not exactly like Hollyweird and others suggest "like porn' you just know it when you see it" either... In any case, I'm just glad to have offered some relief to the obvious frustrations of someone who (not too different from myself) is honestly trying for an academic understanding of things. ;o)
I think people need to be careful with mixing up the sociopathic stare with the stare from people with mostly unrelated diagnoses like Schizoid and Asperger's. There can be some similarities, even if the person isn't a sociopath. I'm Schizoid and people often think my stare is sociopathic. Normal staring doesn't come naturally for people like me, so often we have to compensate in maintaining eye contact, which comes off as unnatural... because it is.
I have bipolar, and thankfully it’s treated pretty well for the most part. But if I’m having a manic episode and I’m angry at the same time. My eyes just empty and then sodas my face. I’ve never been able to figure out why.
@@rosalindsongsmith3670 I've seen the bipolar stare. Wide eyed, almost wondering. Can be off-putting. But it's not malicious or predatory so i wouldn't often confuse it for the stare of someone with ASPD.
@@asdfghjkzzxcvbn Believe it or not, I actually have bipolar. LOL. And my family constantly seems to think I’m not paying attention to what they’re saying because I get this look on my face And in my eyes like I’m completely spaced out.
It’s not the same, mate. Not only is it not in the same ballpark, it’s not even in the same universe. The psychotic stare is icy, and dripping in evil. It’s so powerfully menacing that you can even see it in your peripheral vision. My x has BPD, and when she “split”me in a deep psychosis, her stare was utterly horrific, almost defying description in its venomous intensity.
I prefer the term "shark eyes".... but Tony Soprano nailed it when he said to Richie Aprile... "Every time I press you on anything, you give me those MANSON LAMPS". Ha hah.
A fascinating discussion. I like the fact that you don't oversimplify. Clearly there are several different phenomena here that have been lumped together under the portmanteau term 'sociopathic stare'. Most people find a hard stare disconcerting, but there may be a number of reasons for it. (Of course, anxiety is not a neutral state from which to judge the other person's intent, and some will always assume the worst.) But there is definitely what I would call a 'predator's stare'. It resembles the gaze of a predatory animal looking at a potential lunch. What is striking isn't so much what is in the stare as what is absent: any recognition that the object of the stare is another thinking, feeling human being. Assessment without empathy.
I've seen it on two occasions myself both were sexually abused as children by fathers from broken homes. It leads me to believe the trait is possibly genetic as well as trauma induced by breaking the very soul in children eliminating their ability to feel trust or empathy. I say genetic because I imagine it takes a lack of empathy to molest your own child.
Sorry lady, but you met a human that looks in eyes and see your SOUL, so WHAT DID YOU DO WRONG ?! Cheated your husband, LYING ? Steal smthng ? Hmmmm....
Sounds like a look I saw in my ex’s eyes once, when he didn’t realize I saw it. I turned around fast and surprised the look on his face and it was absolutely chilling! Like a demon was looking out of his eyes. He immediately poured on the charm but I knew then I had to get away from hi,.
I’ve experienced the stare with several people with NPD/BPD traits when I haven’t given them the answer or response they want - it’s like they just glare, waiting for the “correct” response.
You know you've just put BPD in the same category as sociopathy. I hope you can appreciate the total irony of that. In the generalist and simplistic of terms; one is a.lack of any substantial emotions and the other is the overabundance of emotions. I'll leave you to figure which one is which. But my.point is, please don't lump people like me who has been afflicted with BPD for whatever reason, with that of a person with no empathy. I'm very empathetic.
llriv still not the same thing as aspd and wouldnt be classified as a completely different disorder with specialized therapy if it could be lumped in as any other personality disorder :/
A black guy once told me that most black people are very familiar with this in regards to closeted racism in public settings... sometimes he's followed in stores by complete strangers with this look
Sad but very true. I live in Canada and it is no different here. I have travelled and felt it in European countries also. It’s a bi-product of systemic supremacy.
I strongly remember this stare from an ex friend who is a covert narcissist. It was just a dead stare, emotionless, and I thought it was so odd and she didn't look away when I'd look back and she'd just keep staring. I wish I had known before becoming friends with her.
I stare at faces and a person's lips due to a hearing impairment. Now wondering if my counsellor understood my intense concentration on her facial expressions and reading lips due to a hearing deficit.
Oh, I'm sure you're fine 😊 People stare for many different reasons, boredom, deep in thought etc. But when someone experiences this type of stare, it is absolutely chilling. I've experienced the "psychopathic stare". It is literally haunting...even to this day. You should not worry 😉
Correct. Behavior presents for the need for further diagnostic assessment, but just 'staring' is not psychopathy. A whole host of other issues safely mark the psychopath/sociopath with or without staring.
A woman thought i was a psycho because i was just staring at her without blinking for two minutes. Good thing she didn't realize i was just trying to get the courage to ask her out 😭
I'm here because my son did this. He no longer lives with us, but he definitely did this for years. My husband works 2nd shift so I was often left alone in the evening with the kids. I had two younger children to protect, so I had no choice but to show no fear. I know I sound like a terrible mother, but I am so glad he is out of our house.
i saw it in a 14 yr old boy....and a young car salesman (not mine) who watched a sale that someone else made. It's anger times one thousand. Also saw it in a young man in a store! Is drug use causing more of this?
I've been the recipient of the psychopathic stare, and it left a deep impression on me. It was sustained for such an inordinate amount of time and the intensity was hypnotic... mesmerising. I honestly felt like my brain was melting. It's an unusual and highly effective way to assert dominance.
Honor yourself I had this done to me too. It was bizarre. I had been on a jury that found a guy not guilty, and after the trial the federal district judge came in and talked to us. Apparently he was surprised that I had voted not guilty possibly based on my background and after talking to us for a while, turned and stared at me without speaking for a good 10 seconds. The whole room seemed stunned. I had no idea what he was doing but the psychopathic stare seems to explain it now.
This was really interesting. I work in mental health and I can say I’ve seen indications of this before. I’m sure it’s situation and person specific to a degree, but my intuition is that it has to do with predatory behavior that is often relegated to the “shadow” as poorly-socialized behavior. As it tends to make others uncomfortable, “normal” people are uncomfortable staring in such a way. The one thing I can say about it is that it is powerful, and definitely indicates dominance behavior or a challenge to norms or authority. I even noticed it in myself on one occasion when I was having fun with a friend at dinner and the waiter was brusque and condescending about how silly we were being. I remember at that point my facial expression went from jovial and polite to what I recognized in myself as this “psychopathic stare,” and accompanied by a shift in posture from relaxed to dominant. It definitely had its intended effect in making the waiter uncomfortable and apologize for his remarks. The way I processed it later was that it was the moment when the persona drops and the social mask falls. I no longer cared if this person liked me or not and my goal was to at least subconsciously assert dominance. When one stares like this, it is definitely something to be considered by the observer. If I’d seen it in a patient, I would have surmised that it was a precursor to violent or manipulative behavior.
What is a stare that gives you a feeling that the person staring could “eat you all up”, but not in a good way? This person was very sexual with a problem with listening to my boundaries and had unrealistic jealousy. His stare was intense and very interested in me, to the point I felt really uncomfortable.
Too many people make that mistake you just made. Instinctive predator staring is very different than blank psychopathic staring. Maybe a rapist might look at you like a lion at a gazelle but never a true psychopath.
Reminds me of my ex who I believe was sociopathic... our first date he had this gaze and almost didn’t blink. I remember it made me feel uncomfortable but at the time I was struggling with self esteem issues and thought that was why ... should’ve listened to my intuition
It's mainly A and C, dominance and manipulation. Psychopaths want complete, absolute control over their environment and no potential threats and they will sometimes do pretty crazy things to maintain that power. If they sense a threat they often go after it. An irony here is that a victim is often simultaneously a threat, the reason being that the psychopath senses that the victim (usually an empath) can see through him and can expose him, as the victim seems to know that the psychopath is in reality a cowardly, worthless shitbag. This is more or less unconscious but it comes out in analysis. I recently was a member at a gym where a man did this to me, but in stealth looking into a mirror. And he had this weird, evil, Sam Harris kind of leer permanently plastered on his face. I would see this man every day at the gym at the same time in the middle of the day. He would stay there and lift weights often for at least an hour, and I suspected that he was unemployed and some type of criminal possibly. I live in New Orleans and there are a lot of bad cops here and I suspect that he was an ex-cop who embezzled drug money. I just had that feeling. Part of the reason I quit this gym was because of this lowlife. Gyms tend to attract narcissistic and psychopathic people.
Daniel Gontar ...good call brother!.....ignore the haters in the comments....and stick with your gut feelings!..... Although your theory might be a little off .....on this dude’s life story .....your gut feeling on the Danger ,being in this mentally unstable persons presence was guaranteed accurate! Our brains are transmitters and receivers on a very deep level which are tied to all of our senses for survival. When your gut ,signals something isn’t right ....always believe it and analyze the situation and take actions from there ,this might need to be immediately or sometimes over a slow ,smooth period of time . Cheers 🙏✨
Please tell me how to beat it. I say it because these people aren't even human. They have no emotions or real feelings and if they show feeling its a just fake drama show made to manipulate you. How do we turn these fake lying coward manipulative emotionless robots into humans?
@@prod.sinewavve9419 Little late but the best chance you got is the off chance of them getting diagnosed early in life(ike, childhood type early), and then training them properly from that point onward. If otherwise, you're unfortunately left with simply hoping they're the type to have found a philosophical reasoning to consistently work against their nature.
Technically no. Manson was mentally ill but wasn’t a psychopath. Manson lamps just refers to “crazy eyes”, which aren’t necessarily intimidating. Psychopathic stare is different, it is meant to scare and intimidate you
Natasel maybe you need to reread what I wrote? We’re in full agreement. You don’t pepper spray someone for staring. That would be an unprovoked attack.
I'm pretty sure I was on the receiving end once of the stare. It's something I've never seen before and hope to never experience again. I was in the cashier's line to pay for my goods and a man came up kind of out of nowhere and he wanted to buy a gift card without waiting, he came up to the pin pad I was using and started talking to the cashier, I hadn't finished my transaction it felt really awkward and I asked him if he could just wait a couple of moments till I finished, at that moment I received that stare, very bone chilling, it wasn't an angry stare it was a intense wide-eyed strange stare. That stare gave me the creeps so bad I had a employee of the store walk me to my car.
I’ve seen that pure evil chilling stare from my ex husband Narcissist two times. It was bone chilling like two deep dark soulless eyes piercing into your very soul
Keep your eyes fixed on the horizon, deep breathing, slight smile on your face, jaw slightly tightened, be a warrior. I grew up in LA around gangsters and was in a lot of dangerous places a lof of times with killers and psychos. When you're around one it's like being around a demon or a tiger. You can't have fear and you have to be steady. I was practicing yoga and martial arts everyday and got to the point where I could walk into a room and slowly scan my eyes around and would only meet eyes with someone if I chose to. Many times a psycho would fix on me from my periphery, and the normal urge would be to dart my head over and look, but I wouldn't until I was sure his gaze was no longer fixed on me. It's kind of a psychic thing with them and you don't want to trigger their interest in you.
Obviously, they is a lot of different types of staring. However, in the context of sociopathy and psychopathy its usually an aggressive dominance display with a blank affect to try and intimidate, but if you have given signs of being intimidated, then it can be associated with a slight smile. In non-human primates (e.g., monkeys), any eye contact in a situation stressful to them can precipitate an immediate attack because its interpreted as a challenge. The reason the sociopath is smiling is because you haven't attacked them when they are challenging you, so they know they are dominating you.
Ilkka Rautio I only have a little cornsnake now. I used to have over 50. My favorite was a 10’ Macklot’s python. He’d wrap around my waist and stay with me all day.
I’ve started to binge his videos this past weekend. With this, the problem is I’m a Marine and I have been highly trained to have this stare. At this point, I don’t think I can get rid of it if I tried. Also, I’ve been trained to appear emotionless (I’ll go home and eat some Ben and Jerry’s st night after a hard day) and have a shallow affect. We also are trained not to have much to any fear and distress. I know my staring makes people uncomfortable, so I am actively trying not to do it, and I remind myself to try to do like a quarter of a smile. But, that’s where it ends. No lying (that’s highly punished) being manipulative, and just being an overall tool. Marines are the people who will help a person whose car broke down in middle of the night on a back road. We have been trained not to have much fear, and we do care about people. We risk our lives to save civilians overseas (I’ve deployed myself). My point of writing this, see if they are a vet because it could just be that they were trained to appear that way. I don’t think I’m a psychopath, but I have been trained to be fearlessly dominant. I give a shit about people, but I think people in the military are trained to be superficially a psychopath, or at least appear that way, lol.
Yea..the speaking in 3rd person is something that's randomly thrown up by random.people like its something to be concerened about. Lolz Thats the very first thing we are taught.right after the words.( please..thank you and your welcome) are deleted from our vocabulary And If your still reading this Why does the Marine really smile at the photographer? It's because he has been trained to kill everyone in the room In 2.5 seconds.
Not military, but former prison officer, bouncer, private security operative, and support worker at mental health hostels, and I know exactly what you mean. You get so used to turning fear off, your brain just gets used to it.
Saw it again just today on med round. So grateful for those steel bars. Prey is exactly the right word. When u become their prey u can feel it. Its so inexplicably different from all the other kinds of uncomfortable.... Weird..... Socially awkward or inappropriate kinds of staring and peculiar affect.... It's a visceral reaction. Your brain screaming FLIGHT FLIGHT FLIGHT!!!!!!
@Mark Zaney Don't! I have a "friend" whose only concern is undeserved recognition & vicious retribution to those that have harmed him... and yes, he has been irrevocably harmed & psychologically damaged. I can only tolerate minimal doses of him. I am on autism spectrum & he also is. He was pushed into psychosis resulting from hideous childhood abuse.
@Mark Zaney They have a very limited emotional cycle: Hate ➡ Arouses Feeling of Satisfaction ➡Hate ➡ Arouses Feeling of Satisfaction - ad infinitum. The satisfaction they feel when hating sustains them emotionally , as would a feeling of love and happiness in a normal person. They are actually content in their cyclical dysfunction, so wouldn't even be able to understand (in fact it would enrage them) that we are feeling any sympathy towards them. We can feel pity for them occasionally, but why waste our time when they would *Thrive* on seeing us suffer in any way whatsoever
My youngest son had this stare. I tried taking him to Pdoc (and therapists), and they’d say I was imagining his “problems”. Much later he told me I was right, but it’s so easy to lie to therapists. He could tell what they wanted to hear, and say it. He was kicked out of 2 middle schools by 13, was doing drugs by the age of 8, and stealing cars, etc. I used to get bad migraines, and when he was 11 he purposely “pushed” at me during a bad attack. He later told me he knew exactly what he was doing, and he enjoyed doing it. I have a school photo of him with this stare on his face, and it’s really unpleasant. I really despaired for him, but a miracle happened; he fell in love. He’s devoted to his wife and kids, and they know he will ruthlessly defend them.
@@realysalte9730 My ex husband was the bad parent. He gave the kid pot while I was at work. He let him use cocaine while I was at work. I finally got them apart, and his life straightened out.
@@realysalte9730 He was a phenomenal liar. I took him to a few child psychologists, and one of the top (at the time) rehab centers for children (it was called KOALA). They interviewed him for 2 hours, and told me it was my imagination, that he didn’t do drugs, and I should just chill. He later told me it was really easy to lie to these doctors. He’s always been able to con people. When his father & I divorced, he stayed with his father (because that’s where he got his drugs). When he finally wanted to get clean, he came to me and asked for help. He’s been clean over 20 years, and is happy. He doesn’t have much to do with his father.
@@nikkib473 I did everything in my power to put a stop to it. I turned his father in to the TBI, and they arrested and imprisoned his dealers, but not him, because he “had a family to support”, which was a real hoot, because I was the one working 3 jobs to put a roof over their heads and food on the table.
My older brother stared at me this way. He was 16 when i was born and we never really met til i was 16 myself. I thought i was getting to know my other side of my family but all along he was plotting to destroy and confuse me. I’ve always been extremely empathetic and i think this both attracted him and made him want to get rid of me looking back. He began being sexually inappropriate with me and did things that i try my best to never remember. And he had everyone convinced i was making things up to the point my memories still get mixed up even when family verifies and backs me up now that they all are no longer in denial. He did the same things and worse to other underage girls years after i ran away from my family at 17. I think that’s what finally made my family believe me. He was so evil especially to women and girls. He was molested as a boy by his female cousin and i believe that’s what started it. Then he was imprisoned for years which just made it worse. I’m upset that i still feel sad for him and have dated multiple men with similar characteristics always hoping i could save them like i couldn’t save my brother. But i just end up hurt in the end. I hope to break the cycle one day. But it all started with that stare and i definitely know it like the back of my hand.
My ex has this predatory stare, even male colleagues noticed, which shows me how extreme he is. They say, he's creepy. Out of thousands of workers, my ex's name fell at work when we once discussed the predatory stare. It was shocking. I mean, what are the odds his name came up?!
@Natasel LOL, you obviously haven't done the research about the inner wounded child attraction and the attraction between narcissists and an empath. They are highly manipulative, distracting from the dangers you see.
Sarah Z I have aspd and I’ve been told i have evil eyes by one person but I didn’t mean to look a certain way lol. I guess it comes from being non attentive to others but me being a sociopath i do find myself staring for a multitude of reasons usually aggressively because i sometimes get paranoid and it goes on from there. Maybe your ex was just a creep, some people stare at me but then i get confrontational if it happens. A lot of stigma is put onto sociopaths and honestly most of what i do anyway is innocent (without thinking) I don’t plan to hurt you lmao. I could though so i mean be careful lmao. It is just a less empathetic personality with a few additives and more extreme reactions to things. Like I can’t really feel fear as strongly as people around me, i am quick to anger and i usually escalate quickly but i tend to think a lot more philosophically because i seldom see the emotional reasoning of others unless i am close with them I won’t even think about how something would make them feel, so if we do hurt people a lot of the time it is in an innocent way; we aren’t all sadists so we don’t get this pleasure from hurting people lol. Interesting that your male colleagues even mentioned you exes stare because i would have kicked off
The terror experienced in that moment was something I could never NEVER imagine. I didn’t even know there was that level of fear was possible. I still can’t describe it, because it’s unlike anything I’ve ever experienced.
Okay, now let's talk about; The Thousand Yard Stare. One that becomes present after being an actor in or being exposed to traumatic events that cause disbelief, regression and contemplation of the traumatic event(s), after the fact. This is also a symptom of PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder). Need some test subjects,...talk to some Army and Marines Corps. Combat Veterans from Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. The VA is full of stories and events yet to be told. A word of caution, the ones who want to tell someone and everyone about their experiences are a little less than credible, yet not always. The ones who you have to pry it out of and they are reluctant, are the ones who were there. A lot of real soldiers who did truly experience such events, won't talk about it, because an average therapist won't be able to relate or understand. They need to find a connection before they will open up. Just a Heads Up!
It's dissociation due to overwhelming stress. I agree with you, people won't open up because they feel so alone, that no average person will understand or relate. Their trust is broken. I would know because I also have non-combat PTSD and C-PTSD. They also don't want to be judged negatively by people who don't understand, or given platitudes.
I've seen variants of the stare many times. It comes from a _baaaaad_ place and no good will come from it. I've seen a person not seem to blink at all when stalking and being violent, with no change, even when confronted by the police. I've seen the deadened empathy that comes with emotional dysregulation that seems to come from BPD-style of overwhelm where the person begins to disassociate. I've also seen the stare that comes from anger and control, which is also with a complete failure of empathy, but seems to come together in a way that almost looks to exhilarate and delight, in a purely evil kind of way. It almost feels like if you look close enough, you'll see flames dancing in the pupils like in a cartoon. Bottom line: Move along! The person's not in a good place and we don't need to dance with the devil, so-to-speak.
I get that stare from BPD exactly when I begin to disassociate and am approaching the danger point. I've had multiple ex-girlfriends tell me 'I'm scared of you when you look at me like that'. Little did they know the damage was being done right then and there and would be purely psychological. But neither did I! Dance with the devil is funny... when I was 8 I got the 'Most Evil Camper of the Year' award in camp one year (they called me Damien as in the movie The Omen), and later one girlfriend nicknamed me the Tasmanian Devil, which i kind of like because he's insane yet still cute. He goes absolutely crazy yet never hurts anyone. This is basically me when I'm in the street and for whatever reason am raging, decompensating and looking someone or something to project it on. ua-cam.com/video/c54SvkgQ04A/v-deo.html
@Curteous it could also just be his way of coping with how people perceive him over something he doesn't exactly have control over. some people are extremely introspective in a toxic way, and it comes from a place of a desire to change/ be better
So I get the blank stare. But my experience with a loved one is not the same. This persons eyes narrow, as if judging my ability to attack them or my ability to defend myself. Very much a stare of dominance. This is my cue to distance myself quickly because this person is no longer the person I know and love, this person is now a warrior.
My wife and Friends has always characterized it as my "deranged look." I've used that look as a defense mechanism to stop people from messing with me or challenging me. When I display that look, it's preceded by extreme anger and at that point it's do or die.
He was aware of his stare and would boast about it when he was drinking. Being an alcoholic, he was always drinking. The stare could be anything from reptilian to icy to hatred-filled. He has lived a highly criminally diverse life, something out of a movie. Bragged about that as well. I've observed the stare focused on me as well as on other people. The stare is real. He also self-diagnosed as a psychopath on the Hare test. I would characterize it more as sociopathic. Ticks all the boxes.
The stare is 100% real. It is very penetrating. I mistook it for sexual chemistry. It can hold a strong sexual grasp on you if you’re the submissive / empath type. They specifically seek these types out and pray on them It took me years to realize this person was a genuine psychopath. The signs were always there (ASPD, fake charm, huge ego, superficial intellect, sex addiction etc) ....but I just couldn’t believe anyone can really be that callous. I would notice almost instantly a distinct personality switch the minute this person got what they wanted and was done exploiting me. Even the energy in the room changed. Like another entity emerged. No matter how much I wanted to get away, their charm always worked. And I’m the type no one can charm! This made me doubt my diagnosis of them until once again the personality switch would happen. It was like day and night. There were many dark rumors surrounding this person and the ultimate giveaway was a photo I saw in their room of them at age 8-10 with that exact stare!! I’ve NEVER seen a child have this look in their eyes until that photo! These people exist and it’s very scary.
I misinterpreted the stare as well, as sexual interest... how naive I was. It was predatory and the "love" story afterwards was the worst nightmare in my life!
The narcissistic/psychopathic stare is all about control and intimidation. I've seen it used as a way to express that they know their victim is right in a conflict but they won't admit what they've done or that they refuse to discuss it or refuse to apologize what they've done. "Don't even go there!" It's used to stop the communication and to leave the victim in a helpless state of mind. The victims typically steer the conversation to other issues since they have been left with no other option.
This only strengthens my thoughts on possibly being on a sociopathic spectrum to some degree. Along with every other symptom I've ever heard matching me, I used to play a game as a child at restaurants to stare into a random person's eyes, and force them to look away. They always looked away first, and I always felt accomplished.
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The stare of fearless dominance is unmistakable..............It is the first stage of intimidation.
To me, if the eyes aren't moving, I get the feeling that they aren't thinking about anything I have to say.
They're not smart. They think they can be manipulative and dominant but in reality they're dumb gorillas. They think and behave just like animals not humans. Actually slightly wrong. Wild animals actually have shown they have feelings. Psychopaths have none. They are worse than robots. Lying manulipative irresponsible cowardly cold fake robots.
Reptile behaviour
Is it the look like they’ll eat you?!? That they could hurt you and feel nothing? Like they want complete control? What if they stare at you during sex? That freaks me out
Mike Tyson
After talking to 700 people a day in the mcdonalds drive thru. You get this stare 😂😂😂 😶
bigmanforce 😂😂😂😂
haha good one
That will do it
Facts they be so entitled I’m like I’m not that worried about getting fired to not catch your fade real quick pussy
At least once a day
As ex husband attempted to strangle me, his eyes became dark empty holes. Once seen , never forgotten.
Jay Ell my ex boyfriend did the same thing & I saw a similar thing. It’s like their soul drains & its something inhuman staring back at you. Startling to experience
They have an unclean spirit inside, now I understand the phrase, eyes are the windows of the soul, run away from those people!
Downright satanic isnt it?
@Soda Pop you know...
@@kimyoung2748 not necessarily, devoid of satan, worse
That soul-less gaze that strikes terror to your core. Once you see it, you can't forget it. It's almost inhuman.
My ex did that 😮it was so cringe and scary
How can it be inhuman if it comes from humans...
@@jayslungsbloodclot2733 when their definition of "inhuman" is "not descriptive of the average human" 😂
Because there's no humanity there. Call it soul. Call it whatever we have evolved that makes a difference between man and our apelike ancestors. These people are devoid of that, they are soulless animals without anything in them that makes them human.
Stepfather would do that with the car rear view mirror. He'd adjust it to keep staring at me in the back seat.
Dead eyes, it's like they're looking at a object instead of a person.
I would say ya'll are seen more like cattle, in my own opinion.
It's like they themselves are objects.
John 3:16 do you lie a lot? Have promiscuous sex? Do you believe you are entitled? Do you not care how you hurt others? Are you happy if someone is hurting physically or emotionally?
@@daphne4983 It's cause they are. The objects of satan.
@wyeth yes that's what I got from my stalker. She just sit and stare when asked why is she so obsessed. It was very wierd feeling almost like I was an apple and she was deciding to bite me or toss me away. Each day was a different state which gave me and my wife uneasy. As she stares at us in the back ground she was making you tube about us all lies and trying to play she was the victim which was far from the truth.
My theory regarding impaired eye contact is that the stare has nothing at all to do with eye contact. My observation is that their mind is too overwhelmed with thought in that moment to control what’s going on with their face. They’re evaluating and judging and calculating potential responses, and more importantly they haven’t decided what emotion they want to display so they display none. Its like a frozen webpage.
"...they haven’t decided what emotion they want to display so they display none..." I think that, in many cases, this is precisely what is occuring. Your observation dovetails with the nearly universal "lack of affect" displayed by such persons. I can conceive of that split second as being a "manipulation algorithm". Serious food for thought.
That makes perfect sense to me
Yeah if my boss is talking too Mee about a job, I notice he can see me not making a face, I'm trying to think ahead of me details of the job and what I might go wrong, when he stops talking sometimes I don't completely answer the question but I do ask about a specific details I am concerned about
When i sociopath stare, im often in two places at once concentrating on everything im seeing whilst imagining what i want. I'd describe it as augmented fantasy.
Ozma337 I think you’re righg
Sociopathic stair: when the next step inexplicably appears or disappears
Took me a minute. I like it
I hate it when sociopathic stairs use my past trauma of stair falls against me.
😂
Lmao
Ascending or ?....psychopathic stairs only lead down..they also never stumble or trip
One of the scariest moments of my life was witnessing that stare from someone I used to know. Nothing behind the eyes, but pure, predatory evil
What was the reason why the person psychopathically stared at you?
@@MrBernardhard I think most people are using extreme confirmation bias here
anyone engaging in a violent situation likely will have a "psycho" stare. it's more due to the intensity and mindset of the moment.
@@Koraxus No... I think you have not experienced it. Psychopathic stare is really something else.
@@araro7735 If you had time and could keep mental frame to analyze all that on the spot, it clearly wasn't scary enough
Sorry Sister
Once you've seen it, you don't doubt it exists.
@Raphael Miller yes....me, too. And it can not be explained very well, but it's mindblowing and we surely didn't just imagine it.
@Dennis Helgi every new word is ...
I've seen it twice. From the same person. You never forget that stare.
Once you've seen it, you can't un-see it.
So true! I experienced it YEARS ago. I felt someone staring in my direction. I casually looked over and made split second eye contact with this person. It literally pierced me to my core and still haunts me to this day!
It's predatory and menacing. It's telling the one being stared at I don't care if you are annoyed by what I do, I'm going to violate your boundaries and make you feel uncomfortable and there is nothing you can do about it. It's hostile.
it's that evil look in their eyes!
You described it perfectly!
There thinking and visualising a very messy outcome for you....look away now!!
My boss gave me this stare twice yesterday when he was threatening me. I refused to look away. I consider it like staring at a dog, his eyes were just dead & I’m glad that I stood my ground! But I’ll be gone soon...
@@jaszi33 I hope that your situation improves
My dad gets a stare that completely changes his face, esp in anger, like he's not even human... just the embodiment of murderous rage. It was terrifying growing up with it. I'm thankful I survived childhood long enough to get out. The trauma and mental/emotional damage are my battle even now after being free from him for years. They are like rabid predators who assault your mind and body at random over nothing. So incredibly toxic and destructive. I know this stare all too well. It is a real thing.
my dad the same . crazy
Concur
sometimes I wonder what the mothers saw in them? because sometimes the mothers are far different than the fathers
That’s exactly how my mother can often look at me. Especially when she’s mad. It’s like I’m not her daughter. Everyone thinks that her being a sociopath is too “far-fetched” and I’ve been told when describing her characteristics that “maybe she’s autistic and that’s why she seems to not have empathy”. This video made me cry because I finally feel more understood. I was just watching videos with autistic adults, trying to see in their eyes what I see in my mother’s but it’s not the same. My father has many characteristics that could associate him with sociopathy too, but I haven’t seen him in years and I’ve tried to forget everything about him so I can’t seem to remember how he looked at me, but I know it was blank. I don’t know if it had the “murderous” as you said element though like my mother does. Can I please ask you how you understood that your father is a sociopath/psychopath? I mean does he have a diagnosis, is it based on characteristics that you read? Or is it just the stare that you can recognize in him and not the entire disorder? I’m asking because I’m doubting myself so much about this and I can’t seem to find a good answer. I feel like understanding my parents’ disorders could really help me find peace within myself at least for a bit. I’m sorry if that’s not something you want to talk about. Thank you for your comment🤍
Super personal.
When you unmask a psycho or sociopath they may give you that stare. Bloody hell it's incredible. The death stare is what I call it. Intensively creepy to say the least. Yet you see first hand how much they put into their acting.
Once you see through them the acting is actually so cringe worthy bad!
How do you differentiate it from an autistic stare?
Some of these are narcissist I feel like lol. They’re the ones who put so much into acting
Just don't laugh as I did! 👀
How awful.
Run first, diagnose later.
Grace RC Great advice!!!
Best Advice Ever! Oh and don't forget the can of Raid for Eye spraying those huge Parasitic Bugs out walking around!
that's what concealed carry is for
@@ab935 lol
@keith cunningham Stuart is that you? 😂
Im here because this is my wife. Get to know the person really well before you marry people.
Sorry to hear that. It's difficult, mine was very troubled and vulnerable which made it difficult to leave. Best wishes, I'm free now and life has returned.
If she’s a sociopath , she may love you. But if she’s a psychopath, RUN.
same..... pray for me pls 🙏🙏🙏🙏
The Jack English Project Jack get out if she is a narcissist and go no contact anyway you can do it. I hope you do.
AdiK are you stupid
If you haven't experienced the narc/sociopathic stare, just like with anything else , you won't get it. I had this happen to me and I knew to avoid this person. They were looking at me the way a predator looks at prey. They were sizing me up to see what sort of supply I was good for. They let me know exactly what they were because I was aware of the stare to begin with. It was weird.
@filthy animal Sometimes it's intentional, but many times it is because lack of empathy makes the sociopath unaware that constant eye contact might make someone uncomfortable.
@filthy animal hmm, i hold eye contact a lot, and i have to look away because i dont know how to but i needed to to come off as normal. id also try to manipulate my body language so id look normal, like looking to the sides when they are talking to fake laughing to fake caring, because i dont feel anything for anyone going through a ruff time or when something sad happens so them, i sometime don’t know what to do since i had no empathy and so id stand there while they cried on my shoulder wishing they’d shut up and leave but then i knew that that pushed them away from me so i had to act and learned how to fake care and say things that would calm a person and seem like i cared when in reality i didnt care. When its my turn to speak i do break eye contact i don’t think its Necessary to hold it because i know it might come off as lying in certain situations so id look maybe right when remembering something and then hold eye contact and say it, and when they are speaking id hold eye contact to show I’m listening when i dont really care unless if its something i need to hear and use. Idk why I’m commenting on this but i dont think there’s nothing wrong with me so there’s no problem.
@filthy animal so would it mean I’m not a psychopath? I do like to watch people hurt which would make me sadistic and i was diagnosed with ODD which is linked to aspd, i also looked at a traits list and i had about 10+ of the 15 on the list and i dont feel empathy for people. If you aren’t a psychopath and you do the same then i guess I’m not and its normal?
@filthy animal ok, then everything makes sense, well I can’t be diagnosed yet so I can’t have them do what ever they do to diagnose someone with aspd. So if you have aspd and you do all of what i do that would make me a possible psychopath. Which then i would need the diagnosis to confirm it. The wait is ridiculously long unless there’s an alternative which by what iv researched there is none, but I feel the wait will strengthen all the traits and tendencies i have. Idk what to do tho.
Isn't looking for what you are good for a normal thing? Everyone do that sort of social interactions. It's just less subtle especially with extroverted individuals. More obvious with introverts.
I call that 'demon eyes'. It is very easy to see, even if they are pretending. It is cold, dead, dark, evil - that look in the eyes - and often very piercing and intense (and not in a good way) - and can send chills down the spine.
Growing up in 80's / 90's Los Angeles I know the look. A lot of older gangsters have those eyes. Of course it all comes together when you notice the crude prison tattoos and paranoid demeanor
exactly
i am so sorry to hear. Be safe.
PJ Holland has stared at me like this. I thought if you lay one finger on me it's on buddy! It's fucking on!!!
Most are pretenders. Just trying to bully others. They back down when they know that they will lose.
I’ve seen this first hand several times. It’s very real. The feeling you get is horrifying. You feel like the person that gives you this stare has no soul and is a source of pure evil. Like you’ve just made eye contact with a sinful soulless being.
My friend is a psych nurse and she described this very thing after shaking my ex husbands hand during our divorce, child in need of care and pfa hearings, where he convinced everyone I was dangerous and should never see my kids again.
Oh don't be so dramatic...
@@tonyjohnantonio3441 who talked to you
@@tonyjohnantonio3441 understandable have a nice day
@@tonyjohnantonio3441 attention seeking weirdo
To everyone with anxiety in the comments that are affraid they have this stare,,, YOU DONT when you see this stare you will know
Believe.
Well fuck
Not wanting to be a bad person disqualifies you I would think.
I definitely got this stare and I'm proud of it
This. It's like totally plastic eyes.
Strictly anecdotal, if you've ever been on the wrong side of a psychopathic stare, you don't doubt it. You don't forget it. It stays with you. Always.
At least you can spot when it happens again and be warned!
Stg I know this on a personal level
Just wish it wasn't my bio mom.
@Chris Lloyd When you are broken, beaten and had your life threatened by someone with that stare, it's not giving them too much credit. It's a warning to others to be aware that these types of people are real. They exist. People should know that there are real consequences that have real damage and life threatening potential. If you see that stare, don't ignore your instincts, don't give them the benefit of the doubt. Get out of the situation immediately and don't look back.
Yes it stays with you, ALWAYS. I'll never forget that stare
I've seen this stare combined with a delighted grin in two people who turned out to be sociopaths.
Eww yes you're correct, my mom stared at me and had the wackiest grin on her face while we passed each other in traffic. My husband at the time was with me and he looked at me and said oh wow that was some look. I also always had a strange feeling around her, like something deep in me was telling me to keep my distance. My brother passed away under her roof and to this day we don't know what happened. A healthy 17 yr old kid died in his sleep. I may be wrong but something tells me to keep away from that thing.
@@nikkib473 Oh shit dude… rip to your brother. Stay away from her trust me, I had to deal with my father that is like. Stay safe
Sounds like Duper's Delight, a real giveaway. 👀
Yes the arrogance....
Turned out to be or always were??
I've noticed three different "creepy looks." The first is what I've termed "Dead Man Eyes" (blank, cold emotionless). The second is "The Death Ray" (sheer, naked hostility). Third has been mentioned by others: "Duper's Delight" (the involuntary smirk when they know that they have fooled and/or hurt you). None of them seem to indicate a healthy personality.
Ive never heard the term "dupers delight". I spent a good hour or so reading. Glad i came by your comment
Nobody makes eye contact without a motive.
The hostile/ contempt filled stare can also be delivered with a smile, for example in photos, and the smile comes across first while the contemptuous stare can be missed entirely unless one looks closely. Due to this things like these they manage to pull off looking harmless pretty well..
@Sentient being Really? Stop trolling dude.
That depends on ones definition of "healthy". How many geniuses, or very successful business owners also use drugs of various types? That sounds unhealthy to some, but to others it's perfect because they know just like these "stare" scenarios that the beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Predatory animals do this...they stare before they pounce
Patrick Porco most things stare before they do something.
Actually it's more a blank stare than focused stare
Odd, because I have been told I have the eyes of a panther or a shark.
Stop making psychopaths seem like mythical beings
Humans are predators
I was a mental health counselor for twenty years and had one incident with a paranoid schizophrenic. He had it in his head that I and his roommate were stealing from him. He came to the office to confront me and got to within a foot of me. His pupils filled his whole eye and he stared THROUGH me, not at me. Truly unforgettable, but I managed to de-escalate the situation and had him leave. I should have received a bonus.
The stare, and then there's the smirk. I always found the smirk more disturbing.
Sometimes i zone out and stare into nothingness like a weirdo i hope people dont think of me as a sociopath
I think once in a while everyone does it if you have too much in your mind.
That's just dissociation.
It's kind of the same thing essentially but it's normal. Psychopaths can get fixated or not know what emotions to fake at that time. You have a reptilian mind but a mammalian one as well. Psychopaths don't have a properly functioning mammalian mind but still have reptile qualities like the predatory stare.
@@savagetruthercritic8646 Nah.. Disassociation is just zoning out and staring blankly into space. A predatory stare is full of hatred and contempt. Hardly the same thing
Zoning out can also be an autistic trait, probably having to do with disassociation. Was part of the reason I couldn't pass school. I can only take so much of a social situation, and then if I can't physically leave it, I'll do it mentally without even knowing it.
My anxiety sometimes makes my eye contact seem "intense" or "penetrating" because I hate eye contact when I'm anxious, yet I try to force it even though I desperately want to look away. So it might come off like a sociopathic stare, and this misinterpretation makes me depressed to think that some people might think I'm a sociopath.
People, please don't be so immediately judgemental and realize that you might be wrong about some people.
Indeed.
@Galaxi so did I. Except I get anxious so i try to force myself to stare and other people get uncomfortable and look away. But i'm only trying to better myself at eye contacy
I have the same problem on the autism spectrum... I'm always afraid people will interpret my lack of eye contact as disinterest, so I try to look but get so uncomfortable that I forget to actually pay attention to what they're saying. I also have to fight back random facial expressions like smiling at the worst times, so awkward. ugh.
If it's not natural to you.. Don't do it.. Don't conform to social norms that are not normal to you.
I could never hold eye contact for years.. And I still can't.. unless I'm comfortable, if I'm in control, or find the person engaging these day... I'm cool with that.. But if I feel intensity or anxiety, I don't force it.. I just act comfortable with not wanting to.. This allows me to still project myself confidently lessing the anxiety of others "supposed" expectations.
A lot of retarded responses telling you to not follow the social behavioral norms, but this is exactly what makes people socially isolated and miserable as they don't pass the image of someone trustworthy. You need to strike down the anxiety and try to live normally after that, not just accept it and live excluded from the society.
A guy I dated very briefly described himself as easy going with a moral compass. One evening as I was lying on the bed out of nowhere he slapped me and then grabbed my face. While he gripped my face he homed in on me and had this extremely intense blank stare that slowly examined each of my eyes individually back and forth multiple times without saying a word I could feel a force of distain coming from him. I was completely none reactive. It was like I had been stunned. I then whispered ‘what are you thinking?’ He calmly replied ‘You don’t want to know’. This is my only experience of what I think is a sociopath/ psychopath.
Were there any alarming signs in the beginning of your relationships?
When I was a kid, some of the bullies in school had this kind of stare. Cold, dead eyes with hooded lids, but with an expression like they could watch you die with no regret. I’ll never forget those faces.
They grew up to be PSYCHOPATH...guaranteed.
When I was a kid some of my bullies saw that stare. For some reason most of them picked new targets shortly afterwards.
@@Thenormalguy11
Don't you have people to punish for being exactly the way you made them?
@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 You scared them with the "angry and abusive dad" stare.
I experienced this stare from a murderer on a witness stand who caught my eye as a juror. He had stabbed a professor to death and we were to decide on degree and his state of mind at the time. I will never forget his cold, dark stare. I’m not one to be intimidated by nature, but I was the first to look away and will never forget it.
I feel contempt towards that murderer.
U still alive?
Its a predator's stare towards their pray. When you see it you will know it
I had the misfortune to see a real psychopathic stare.
It exists but it's not what movies show or people believe it is. Psycho and sociopath experience very weak emotions and emotions make your eyes move or blink. That's why they tend not to move their eyes from your face. All people look at the interlocutor's eyes, but people with strong emotions unconsciously tend to move their eyes, but psychopaths don't. High-functioning psychopaths don't have this stare because they learned to hide that
maybe learn how to spell "prey" before psychoanalyzing social situations. k THANKSSSSSSS
@@hoonta0h687 How empty ones life must be to have the need to make irrelevant comments hoping that someone will pay attention to them.
I've seen it before. It's alarming and dismaying to realize you are a target.
@@hoonta0h687 Funny you should say that - I was just about the post a comment about how they wait for you to say something they can use AGAINST you. They are paying GREAT attention - just WAITING for you to say something that will give them a chance to demean, belittle, criticise, devalue or humiliate you in front of others. And you have just provided me with a PERFECT example! Thank-you!
NO WAY would any "normal" person interpret that stare as "attraction". Once you've seen it, you'll NEVER make that mistake of "misinterpretation" again. That stare absolutely penetrates you, and whatever is behind it is evil.
Um, it's called eye fucking. Women and men have been doing that for centuries with no problems.
Y'all are just overly sensitive snowflakes.
@@Un1234l No - it's called the natural gaze of a neutral person.
It’s the scariest thing I ever saw .
It’s literally the same as a predatory animal staring at you, such as a lion or a tiger. It’s very creepy.
EXACTLY.
very comprehensive. so misdiagnosing can be disastrous.... a socially awkward person can be misinterpreted as someone scary...
A socially awkward person can also be a scary person. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
@@matilda4406
You're welcome to believe that but my life has been proof you're wrong.
@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 your life isn’t proof of anything, what an ignorant thing to say
My father stared at us children with small round cold eyes before he hit us! We called it "the squirrel look", Once he almost killed my sister. We knew, when he's switching to that stare, we have to run and hide anywhere to protect ourselves. Once I locked myself in the bathroom and since he couldn't catch me, he destroyed all my paintings in my room.
Wtf
It is so much worse in a parent. I hope you and your sister recovered from that horrendous experience.
Mireille Claire good times had by all
I really hope you are happy!! No one deserves this
Your father was a sick man. I hope you have health from this obvious abuse.
That stare is like looking into the eyes of a snake. There is nothing behind the eye. A blank look on the face and penetrating, evil, hostile stare. Meant to intimidate, and threaten the normal person. I have experienced the stare from my sister, who is a narcissist, of the worst type. Knew what she was, and just ignored the staring. Needless to say I cut all contact, and have no regrets.
I will never forget the look my ex gave me when he said without any emotion “I could kill someone, even a member of my family and not feel a thing” terrifying.
I had no idea there were so many others who had seen the same thing.
Sounds like he was just trying to be edgy.
@@20TonChop I agree but considering his actions before and after he said that. I wouldn’t put it past him to act on his threats...
Yep...these people EXIST. I call them Spawns of Satan.
My skin is burning from the intense *CRINGE*
Once you’ve seen it, you know it.
Your pretty
Promise you
I was in a deep psychosis for a long time, I developed blank stares, once I accidentally saw my reflection in the mirror and my eyes were dark, I scared myself into self care, haven't looked back since. I was raised by a narc mom, then married into a family that honestly, was like it's own cult. Now, after journaling, crying, dancing, music, yoga, water, meditation, healthier food, AND CHANNELS LIKE THIS....Im better than ever before! If I can do it, anyone can! I'd go many moons without talking, eating, sleeping, cleaning, showering, utter DARKNESS, I crawled out!
I'm so very proud of your strength and dedication to making a better life than you were given. I pray that you're still on a healing path, with lots of unexpected joys. ❤️🙏💞
Welcome to the light! 🙏
So strong and self aware💖💖✨ Keep choosing self care, you're amazing ⭐️
I pray you are still doing well and are healing from this. I don’t know if you believe in Jesus but I want to tell you He loves you so much. God is the best parent one can have. I know my relationship with Jesus is the best decision I ever made. He is my best friend, so loving and always there for me with open arms even when I mess up (which I often do). He still loves and cares for me and I don’t know how I would have gone though so things without Him by my side. I know you are so precious to Him and that if you ever want to turn to Jesus, He is right there with opens and loving arms. I pray for you to have peace, love, and joy each day. God bless you ❤️
thank you
I used to work with a guy who would stare at me non stop. He lacked empathy I noticed and over time devoted much time trying to control me or hurt me emotionally. It was very intense...
Recognizing the stare and being in tune with my discomfort, unease and confusion about it fueled me to move on from someone I was dating. I initially questioned if everything was okay with him because the moment felt off. His response was odd. He listed the qualities of a good women. Since I had those qualities he was in love with me. It was like a robot from a 70's sci-fi low budget film response. No passion. Just emptiness. He said our meeting was lucky for me since I'm an older woman. He would express joy when I shared difficult things from my life. I shared my Dad was diagnosed with late stage prostate cancer. All new to our family. He said, Good! Nobody has to worry what's going to take him out. He was upbeat and jovial as the conversation proceeded. Trust your discomforts. A few days later he returned to the conversation. He pushed a narrative of concern, care and love for my entire family. As if someone told him how he should have responded the first time.
a woman who dated ted bundy got the vibe and boogied... got to tell about it
This stare is very real and is common of sociopaths, psychopaths, and narcissists.
Again I will refer you to my Mother
Dissassociation
Most people who work in security are this.
I agree with you 100%
Based on what? Can you support your argument as well as Dr Grande?
The "serial killer stare".. it can be intense. The moment they slip up and for a moment reveal their true character, then quickly change it once they realize you're not reacting the way they want you to.
I have seen a stare that I would characterize as "serial killer stare" as the stare communicated to me that they had just discovered their next victim and they were relishing the thought of it. Luckily for me, their fantasy did not occur. It happened to me twice at work with two different attorneys, years apart. Another time happened at the grocery store. Another time it happened at a car dealership in the parts department. It is a look that cuts you to the bone and sets off your intuition alarm. Very creepy.
👀They ABSOLUTELY can tell who is susceptible to them. And from personal AND professional experience I have to wonder if you had a traumatic childhood, possibly at the hands of a Narcissist or Sociopath? You don't have to answer, but if you have I do hope you've gotten specific help about these predators. Best to you. ❤️🙏💞
@@lulumoon6942 No I haven't had such an experience. Just keen intuition/awareness of my surroundings and of people's behavior. I believe that intuition/awareness has kept me from becoming a victim of such. Thank you for your concern.
@@rebawasswass3716 Glad to hear it, as previous victimization seems to be a factor in their choices. Best to you.
PJ Holland has stared at me like this over trivial matters, I thought if you lay one finger on me it's on buddy! It's fucking on!!!
So that settles it: Owls have sociopathy.
well they are predators so yeah very similar, love that ahaha
Underrated comment!
Nah, they're just chill.
If you tame one it will not peck your eyes out for fun - like a human psychopath would do. Clearly owls are superior beings.
it's nothing at all like that. Bless you you have clearly been spared one of the most horrifying experiences a person can have of another person.
I experienced this psychopathic stare from a man in line at the coffee shop. I interpreted it as an attraction but soon found out it was manipulation. He was trying to lead me to a parking lot and then his car parked in a dark corner. The stare turned into a conversation about real estate while we walked. Unbeknownst to me the talking took me to the beginning of a parking lot away from others the he said I got a business card for you in my car which was further away in a dark corner. At that point my street sense kicked in and I could see what he was really trying to do. I froze and then turned around going back towards the people. He was gonna get hurt cuz I’m not the one.
So glad you avoided the"nice girls don't offend" trap that so many do, to their end! Stay safe, strong sister. ❤️🙏💞
smart thing. your safety comes first. Go back to the place of business and report him.
In my experience, those who stare like this are sizing you up. I don't think they even know they are doing it sometimes. I've seen it a few times, it reminds me of the unblinking stare of a death adder before it strikes.
Snakes can't help being unblinking. They don't have eyelids.
Congrat's, there Bunny, a little "over the top" maybe... BUT you've come about closest to the essence of a generic "stare" that I know.
I've faced down more than a couple obvious socio-paths... I won't pretend to know purely the academic differences between socio/psycho... nor try to lead you on with some babbling nonsense about any diagnostics...
In my experience, however, a stare in essence is just that... study. Whether someone's sizing you up as prey or a resource, adding a depth of perception about your roles in bystander or confronter, whatever else(?)... It's study.
There are rare exceptions when "the stare tactic" is employed to unnerve you, to "rattle your cage" so to speak by patiently repeating the act until you meet their gaze... and I've been "there" too, but outwardly, there's little or no relevant difference to perceive.
You can ONLY know that you're being stared at... probably measured. (even as a bonus simply for trying to non-verbally challenge you)...
Importantly, regardless of what it reminds you of, at the time, it's worth understanding that you have limited choices in the situation. You can challenge it. You can ignore it (at your peril). OR You can go on about life, simply noting it.
It takes some dubious levels of personal confidence and consideration to make an appropriate and effective choice. AND it's worth admitting that nobody gets it "right" ALL the time. You can't exactly diagnose based on a stare, however vacuous or glassy-eyed.
"At your peril" is to say, totally ignoring someone staring at you is probably the single worst choice to make, most of the time. While you can't exactly diagnose them from the stare, better to at least recognize that you're either being measured up for something (plotting on you at least) or directly challenged. Ignoring a challenge is as dangerous as retorting "Sure, I'll play along!" without knowing what the hell game you're volunteering to play.
Sociopaths and Psychopaths find their own "fulfillment" in measures and ways that we "normal people" don't even understand. It's really just that simple, and without turning into an "Us versus Them" kind of derogatory filth-fest, we don't have to openly invite disasters just because those disasters have intellect and will of their own.
How to effectively navigate or circumvent a "lunatic" (umbrella term for aggressive enemy, regardless of psychological balance or impediment) is a damn dubious thing at the best of times. It's only really useful to point out that it CAN be done in most circumstances, and for those remaining (where it can't be circumvented?)... You should definitely learn how to defend yourself physically. At some level EVERYONE should do that much, not because being a pacifist is "dumb"... BUT because the world at large is physical, and there ARE really horrible people around who mean you harm, simply to mean you harm. ;o)
gnarth d'arkanen - very useful & interesting information, there - you've put a lot of thought into this! I will bear all your analysis in mind. Thanks for the help.
@@BunnyUK, You're certainly welcome...
It just seemed "about time" on this thread for someone to put something interesting and useful, rather than accuse you of symptomatic behavior or flat out lying about animal biology...
I'd be disingenuous to suggest that there aren't some stares and moments that totally unnerve us (me, too?) BUT it's not exactly like Hollyweird and others suggest "like porn' you just know it when you see it" either...
In any case, I'm just glad to have offered some relief to the obvious frustrations of someone who (not too different from myself) is honestly trying for an academic understanding of things. ;o)
gnarth d'arkanen - that is so thoughtful and kind of you, and thanks for being nonjudgemental. :)
I think people need to be careful with mixing up the sociopathic stare with the stare from people with mostly unrelated diagnoses like Schizoid and Asperger's. There can be some similarities, even if the person isn't a sociopath. I'm Schizoid and people often think my stare is sociopathic. Normal staring doesn't come naturally for people like me, so often we have to compensate in maintaining eye contact, which comes off as unnatural... because it is.
I have bipolar, and thankfully it’s treated pretty well for the most part. But if I’m having a manic episode and I’m angry at the same time. My eyes just empty and then sodas my face. I’ve never been able to figure out why.
@@rosalindsongsmith3670 I've seen the bipolar stare. Wide eyed, almost wondering. Can be off-putting. But it's not malicious or predatory so i wouldn't often confuse it for the stare of someone with ASPD.
@@asdfghjkzzxcvbn Believe it or not, I actually have bipolar. LOL. And my family constantly seems to think I’m not paying attention to what they’re saying because I get this look on my face And in my eyes like I’m completely spaced out.
It’s not the same, mate. Not only is it not in the same ballpark, it’s not even in the same universe. The psychotic stare is icy, and dripping in evil. It’s so powerfully menacing that you can even see it in your peripheral vision. My x has BPD, and when she “split”me in a deep psychosis, her stare was utterly horrific, almost defying description in its venomous intensity.
People with Asperger’s don’t stare they acid eye contact
This is why I limit my interactions with strangers 🤣
Follow a Correctional Officer on his rounds. You will see the "stare" in about 25% of the inmates.
More like 60-70%
@@ari-jv Yes, depending on the unit and the sex of the officer it could be that high.
I prefer the term "shark eyes".... but Tony Soprano nailed it when he said to Richie Aprile... "Every time I press you on anything, you give me those MANSON LAMPS". Ha hah.
Lol
😂😂
Deplorable Cat or when he contemplated killing Paulie on the boat
@Deplorable Cat For me the Sopranos could me renamed to "why narcissistic personality disorder will eventually destroy you."
Just watched that episode yesterday lmao classic!
Isn’t it interesting how everyone’s ex-boyfriend had this stare and they were all demon possessed. Maybe they were just fed up of your melodrama?
The stare makes you think they know all your dark secrets and aren't afraid to exploit them to their advantage.
A fascinating discussion. I like the fact that you don't oversimplify. Clearly there are several different phenomena here that have been lumped together under the portmanteau term 'sociopathic stare'.
Most people find a hard stare disconcerting, but there may be a number of reasons for it. (Of course, anxiety is not a neutral state from which to judge the other person's intent, and some will always assume the worst.) But there is definitely what I would call a 'predator's stare'. It resembles the gaze of a predatory animal looking at a potential lunch. What is striking isn't so much what is in the stare as what is absent: any recognition that the object of the stare is another thinking, feeling human being. Assessment without empathy.
Thank you!
It’s a look that stops you in your tracks, the hair stands up on your arms, and you feel guilty doing nothing. I’ve seen in on 2 occasions. Scary look
Perhaps you weren't "doing nothing" and got the cold penance stare of the holy spirit convicting your soul of your crimes.
I think i may have the stare people can't look into my eyes more than 5 seconds and my son eyes are also wide as nickels
I've seen it on two occasions myself both were sexually abused as children by fathers from broken homes. It leads me to believe the trait is possibly genetic as well as trauma induced by breaking the very soul in children eliminating their ability to feel trust or empathy. I say genetic because I imagine it takes a lack of empathy to molest your own child.
Sorry lady, but you met a human that looks in eyes and see your SOUL, so WHAT DID YOU DO WRONG ?! Cheated your husband, LYING ? Steal smthng ? Hmmmm....
Or just annoying because it appears to be a challenge
I sincerely hope you never stop making videos. This has been very informative, thank you.
Sounds like a look I saw in my ex’s eyes once, when he didn’t realize I saw it. I turned around fast and surprised the look on his face and it was absolutely chilling! Like a demon was looking out of his eyes. He immediately poured on the charm but I knew then I had to get away from hi,.
I’ve experienced the stare with several people with NPD/BPD traits when I haven’t given them the answer or response they want - it’s like they just glare, waiting for the “correct” response.
Sounds like you are describing the police.
You know you've just put BPD in the same category as sociopathy. I hope you can appreciate the total irony of that. In the generalist and simplistic of terms; one is a.lack of any substantial emotions and the other is the overabundance of emotions. I'll leave you to figure which one is which.
But my.point is, please don't lump people like me who has been afflicted with BPD for whatever reason, with that of a person with no empathy. I'm very empathetic.
Perhaps they know if you're lying or not...so if you tell them a lie...they start glaring at you because they know you're being dishonest.
Oh shit I do this when I don’t hear what I was expecting lmfao
llriv still not the same thing as aspd and wouldnt be classified as a completely different disorder with specialized therapy if it could be lumped in as any other personality disorder :/
My hamster looks at me like that if he's food bowls empty 😨
Sleep with one eye open.
GRIPPING YOUR PILLOW TIGHT
He's an and he's mad at you, maybe a little grumpy.
@@obviouslykaleb7998 begins to humb the pillow while looking at the hamster
A black guy once told me that most black people are very familiar with this in regards to closeted racism in public settings... sometimes he's followed in stores by complete strangers with this look
Sad but very true. I live in Canada and it is no different here. I have travelled and felt it in European countries also. It’s a bi-product of systemic supremacy.
I strongly remember this stare from an ex friend who is a covert narcissist. It was just a dead stare, emotionless, and I thought it was so odd and she didn't look away when I'd look back and she'd just keep staring. I wish I had known before becoming friends with her.
@Ark15-47...I haven't met a covert narc yet that I haven't also sensed had a solid degree of psychopathy in them.
Yeah, the inability to get them to snap out of it is frightening. They don’t react to anything they just keep staring.
I stare at faces and a person's lips due to a hearing impairment. Now wondering if my counsellor understood my intense concentration on her facial expressions and reading lips due to a hearing deficit.
I’m sure they know, unless you have other traits of sociopaths, and I’m guessing since you are watching this, you don’t. :)
I'm sure you're fine. Inspecting someone's lips and glaring into their being are two different things
Oh, I'm sure you're fine 😊 People stare for many different reasons, boredom, deep in thought etc. But when someone experiences this type of stare, it is absolutely chilling. I've experienced the "psychopathic stare". It is literally haunting...even to this day. You should not worry 😉
Diana Boughner you have nothing to worry about with your context. I have an acquaintance with similar circumstance and it is a different look
@@gickygackers oh, thank you. I wondered if my intense stare would be misinterpreted as what you speak of as the "sociopathic/psychopathic" stare. 🤔🙄😁
You cannot determine a psychopath by the way they stare but only by their actions. You're misleading people by these claims.
You obviously didn't watch the whole video or you just didn't pay attention. He said a stare can be interpreted. He never said it was official.
I stare all the time, playing poker, listening to the wife
It is a "scan all data mode"
It is unwise to cross that staring gazebos
Exactly. He is trying too hard. This guy had the try hard stare.
Correct. Behavior presents for the need for further diagnostic assessment, but just 'staring' is not psychopathy. A whole host of other issues safely mark the psychopath/sociopath with or without staring.
@@raisinbran3736 is "pruritus ani" Symptomatic of a cluster b?
A woman thought i was a psycho because i was just staring at her without blinking for two minutes. Good thing she didn't realize i was just trying to get the courage to ask her out 😭
I'm here because my son did this. He no longer lives with us, but he definitely did this for years. My husband works 2nd shift so I was often left alone in the evening with the kids. I had two younger children to protect, so I had no choice but to show no fear. I know I sound like a terrible mother, but I am so glad he is out of our house.
sometimes its familiar--genetic--think of who else in HIS family is similar or same. I bet there is one.
I saw it last week and it looked demonic.
Totally 100% demonic!
Right because it IS demonic.
These people have demons.
i saw it in a 14 yr old boy....and a young car salesman (not mine) who watched a sale that someone else made. It's anger times one thousand. Also saw it in a young man in a store! Is drug use causing more of this?
I've been the recipient of the psychopathic stare, and it left a deep impression on me. It was sustained for such an inordinate amount of time and the intensity was hypnotic... mesmerising. I honestly felt like my brain was melting. It's an unusual and highly effective way to assert dominance.
Sounds like a vampire
I think you're projecting and exaggerating.
Honor yourself I had this done to me too. It was bizarre. I had been on a jury that found a guy not guilty, and after the trial the federal district judge came in and talked to us. Apparently he was surprised that I had voted not guilty possibly based on my background and after talking to us for a while, turned and stared at me without speaking for a good 10 seconds. The whole room seemed stunned. I had no idea what he was doing but the psychopathic stare seems to explain it now.
Well we don't do it so that you can forget about it an hour later. We want it stuck in your head so you lose sleep thinking about it.
That’s interesting :)
This was really interesting. I work in mental health and I can say I’ve seen indications of this before. I’m sure it’s situation and person specific to a degree, but my intuition is that it has to do with predatory behavior that is often relegated to the “shadow” as poorly-socialized behavior. As it tends to make others uncomfortable, “normal” people are uncomfortable staring in such a way. The one thing I can say about it is that it is powerful, and definitely indicates dominance behavior or a challenge to norms or authority. I even noticed it in myself on one occasion when I was having fun with a friend at dinner and the waiter was brusque and condescending about how silly we were being. I remember at that point my facial expression went from jovial and polite to what I recognized in myself as this “psychopathic stare,” and accompanied by a shift in posture from relaxed to dominant. It definitely had its intended effect in making the waiter uncomfortable and apologize for his remarks. The way I processed it later was that it was the moment when the persona drops and the social mask falls. I no longer cared if this person liked me or not and my goal was to at least subconsciously assert dominance. When one stares like this, it is definitely something to be considered by the observer. If I’d seen it in a patient, I would have surmised that it was a precursor to violent or manipulative behavior.
"I asserted dominace by sitting up straight" what a joke lol
Usually the ones putting the mask on are the biggest hypocrites
What is a stare that gives you a feeling that the person staring could “eat you all up”, but not in a good way? This person was very sexual with a problem with listening to my boundaries and had unrealistic jealousy. His stare was intense and very interested in me, to the point I felt really uncomfortable.
Yes its called the predatory stare. They look at you the way a lion looks at a gazelle
Too many people make that mistake you just made. Instinctive predator staring is very different than blank psychopathic staring. Maybe a rapist might look at you like a lion at a gazelle but never a true psychopath.
@Jeshua Satterlee liar
@@lilylily7072 exactly it's more than a predatory look it's a look of pure evil it's simply demonic
Reminds me of my ex who I believe was sociopathic... our first date he had this gaze and almost didn’t blink. I remember it made me feel uncomfortable but at the time I was struggling with self esteem issues and thought that was why ... should’ve listened to my intuition
@@pinkforeverlove1 they like to hit you when you’re at your lowest
It's mainly A and C, dominance and manipulation. Psychopaths want complete, absolute control over their environment and no potential threats and they will sometimes do pretty crazy things to maintain that power. If they sense a threat they often go after it. An irony here is that a victim is often simultaneously a threat, the reason being that the psychopath senses that the victim (usually an empath) can see through him and can expose him, as the victim seems to know that the psychopath is in reality a cowardly, worthless shitbag. This is more or less unconscious but it comes out in analysis.
I recently was a member at a gym where a man did this to me, but in stealth looking into a mirror. And he had this weird, evil, Sam Harris kind of leer permanently plastered on his face. I would see this man every day at the gym at the same time in the middle of the day. He would stay there and lift weights often for at least an hour, and I suspected that he was unemployed and some type of criminal possibly. I live in New Orleans and there are a lot of bad cops here and I suspect that he was an ex-cop who embezzled drug money. I just had that feeling. Part of the reason I quit this gym was because of this lowlife. Gyms tend to attract narcissistic and psychopathic people.
Daniel Gontar could u explain empaths to me? I’ve been hearing of them ALOT recently. And I’m curious now
@@obviouslykaleb7998 look up Psych2Go vids, lot of info there 👌🏾
Daniel Gontar ...good call brother!.....ignore the haters in the comments....and stick with your gut feelings!.....
Although your theory might be a little off .....on this dude’s life story .....your gut feeling on the Danger ,being in this mentally unstable persons presence was guaranteed accurate!
Our brains are transmitters and receivers on a very deep level which are tied to all of our senses for survival.
When your gut ,signals something isn’t right ....always believe it and analyze the situation and take actions from there ,this might need to be immediately or sometimes over a slow ,smooth period of time .
Cheers 🙏✨
Please tell me how to beat it. I say it because these people aren't even human. They have no emotions or real feelings and if they show feeling its a just fake drama show made to manipulate you. How do we turn these fake lying coward manipulative emotionless robots into humans?
@@prod.sinewavve9419 Little late but the best chance you got is the off chance of them getting diagnosed early in life(ike, childhood type early), and then training them properly from that point onward.
If otherwise, you're unfortunately left with simply hoping they're the type to have found a philosophical reasoning to consistently work against their nature.
On the show The Sopranos, Tony called this Manson Lamps:
Best box set in the history of the world.
@@maxhammer4067 🤣🤣🤣
"I'll build a ramp, up to your ass. Drive a Lionel up in there."
Technically no. Manson was mentally ill but wasn’t a psychopath. Manson lamps just refers to “crazy eyes”, which aren’t necessarily intimidating. Psychopathic stare is different, it is meant to scare and intimidate you
@@lizc2023 you are exactly correct.
"A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun" - W.B. Yeats
I've also seen the stare & it is ice cold & make you shiver & look away.
those may be people with some big problems in their life.
True
Pepperspray will stop this asap!
Natasel maybe you need to reread what I wrote? We’re in full agreement. You don’t pepper spray someone for staring. That would be an unprovoked attack.
🤣🤣🤣
or a 45
That’s like saying you’ll pepperspray any gay person who walks up to you considering they’re also 4% of the population.
I also carry salt spray and atomised vinegar - tastes great on chips
"Physical argument": an unusual definition of "fight".
I'm pretty sure I was on the receiving end once of the stare. It's something I've never seen before and hope to never experience again. I was in the cashier's line to pay for my goods and a man came up kind of out of nowhere and he wanted to buy a gift card without waiting, he came up to the pin pad I was using and started talking to the cashier, I hadn't finished my transaction it felt really awkward and I asked him if he could just wait a couple of moments till I finished, at that moment I received that stare, very bone chilling, it wasn't an angry stare it was a intense wide-eyed strange stare. That stare gave me the creeps so bad I had a employee of the store walk me to my car.
I’ve seen that pure evil chilling stare from my ex husband Narcissist two times. It was bone chilling like two deep dark soulless eyes piercing into your very soul
a demon looking at you.
Bruh come on. Why everybody ex gotta be a narcissist. I'm tired of hearing that. He found better pussy that's it
@@Jay-vy9rn looool ong
@@Jay-vy9rn hahaha 👍
I am sorry. I am aware of what I was doing to you. I hate myself but I just couldn't control it. I did not choose to be this way.
Keep your eyes fixed on the horizon, deep breathing, slight smile on your face, jaw slightly tightened, be a warrior. I grew up in LA around gangsters and was in a lot of dangerous places a lof of times with killers and psychos. When you're around one it's like being around a demon or a tiger. You can't have fear and you have to be steady. I was practicing yoga and martial arts everyday and got to the point where I could walk into a room and slowly scan my eyes around and would only meet eyes with someone if I chose to. Many times a psycho would fix on me from my periphery, and the normal urge would be to dart my head over and look, but I wouldn't until I was sure his gaze was no longer fixed on me. It's kind of a psychic thing with them and you don't want to trigger their interest in you.
parabola yup! There are people you don’t want to make eye contact with.
For they sleep not, except they have done mischief; and their sleep is taken away, unless they cause some to fall./ Proverbs 4:16
You are trying too hard.
@@johnluke6122 thanks lil buddy, it's better than not trying hard enough.
@@earthbound_one jane's addiction
Obviously, they is a lot of different types of staring. However, in the context of sociopathy and psychopathy its usually an aggressive dominance display with a blank affect to try and intimidate, but if you have given signs of being intimidated, then it can be associated with a slight smile. In non-human primates (e.g., monkeys), any eye contact in a situation stressful to them can precipitate an immediate attack because its interpreted as a challenge. The reason the sociopath is smiling is because you haven't attacked them when they are challenging you, so they know they are dominating you.
When I met someone I touch my nose against there nose and stare without making a sound is that weird
I love to pet cute animals and give them a kiss on their snouts. But poking someones nose seems suspicious. 🤔
Not at all. I have a pet snake who would love to meet you
@@cyn37211 Really? Thatd be nice. ❤️
Ilkka Rautio I only have a little cornsnake now. I used to have over 50. My favorite was a 10’ Macklot’s python. He’d wrap around my waist and stay with me all day.
@@cyn37211 Sounds wonderfull ❤️
I’ve started to binge his videos this past weekend. With this, the problem is I’m a Marine and I have been highly trained to have this stare. At this point, I don’t think I can get rid of it if I tried.
Also, I’ve been trained to appear emotionless (I’ll go home and eat some Ben and Jerry’s st night after a hard day) and have a shallow affect. We also are trained not to have much to any fear and distress. I know my staring makes people uncomfortable, so I am actively trying not to do it, and I remind myself to try to do like a quarter of a smile. But, that’s where it ends. No lying (that’s highly punished) being manipulative, and just being an overall tool. Marines are the people who will help a person whose car broke down in middle of the night on a back road. We have been trained not to have much fear, and we do care about people. We risk our lives to save civilians overseas (I’ve deployed myself). My point of writing this, see if they are a vet because it could just be that they were trained to appear that way.
I don’t think I’m a psychopath, but I have been trained to be fearlessly dominant. I give a shit about people, but I think people in the military are trained to be superficially a psychopath, or at least appear that way, lol.
Yea..the speaking in 3rd person is something that's randomly thrown up by random.people like its something to be concerened about.
Lolz
Thats the very first thing we are taught.right after the words.( please..thank you and your welcome) are deleted from our vocabulary
And
If your still reading this
Why does the Marine really smile at the photographer?
It's because he has been trained to kill everyone in the room In 2.5 seconds.
i often wondered if people simply jump into conclusions associating 'stares' that made them uncomfortable as psychopathic.
Not military, but former prison officer, bouncer, private security operative, and support worker at mental health hostels, and I know exactly what you mean. You get so used to turning fear off, your brain just gets used to it.
I think you’ve been trained to disassociate more so than have true psychopathy. You still have the emotions, you just aren’t acknowledging them.
@@Nutmeg142 yep
Saw it again just today on med round. So grateful for those steel bars. Prey is exactly the right word. When u become their prey u can feel it. Its so inexplicably different from all the other kinds of uncomfortable.... Weird..... Socially awkward or inappropriate kinds of staring and peculiar affect.... It's a visceral reaction. Your brain screaming FLIGHT FLIGHT FLIGHT!!!!!!
@Mark Zaney Don't! I have a "friend" whose only concern is undeserved recognition & vicious retribution to those that have harmed him... and yes, he has been irrevocably harmed & psychologically damaged. I can only tolerate minimal doses of him. I am on autism spectrum & he also is. He was pushed into psychosis resulting from hideous childhood abuse.
@Mark Zaney They have a very limited emotional cycle: Hate ➡ Arouses Feeling of Satisfaction ➡Hate ➡ Arouses Feeling of Satisfaction - ad infinitum. The satisfaction they feel when hating sustains them emotionally , as would a feeling of love and happiness in a normal person. They are actually content in their cyclical dysfunction, so wouldn't even be able to understand (in fact it would enrage them) that we are feeling any sympathy towards them. We can feel pity for them occasionally, but why waste our time when they would *Thrive* on seeing us suffer in any way whatsoever
The narcissistic, soon to be ex hubby stares at me for uncomfortably long periods of time when he's about to destroy my self esteem.
Billford Stephenson you should be ashamed of yourself
Why did stared you? Maybe you made him angry or something
Maybe he just doesn't want to watch reruns of ghost whisperer
Of course it makes a narc angry when you don’t buy into their lies and abuse 😂
I’m into sci-fi, maybe he watches a little too much ghost whisperer 😂
Contrary to escalating a situation I believe a true sociopathic / psychopathic stare neutralizes those looking for conflict, almost immediately.
Dang and all this time I just assumed I was attractive :(
You are, I just got my stares mixed up... I would try the other one I know but for some reason It makes me look constipated.
Well it's non specific, so let's assume
I like Potatoes it’s probably that premium sperm she’s using
@@natalieg1011 reallly?
leslie weatherington I’m just playing . Do you use coco butter ?
Anyone else actually having an anxiety attack just from the description no just me great lol
It me
My youngest son had this stare. I tried taking him to Pdoc (and therapists), and they’d say I was imagining his “problems”. Much later he told me I was right, but it’s so easy to lie to therapists. He could tell what they wanted to hear, and say it. He was kicked out of 2 middle schools by 13, was doing drugs by the age of 8, and stealing cars, etc.
I used to get bad migraines, and when he was 11 he purposely “pushed” at me during a bad attack. He later told me he knew exactly what he was doing, and he enjoyed doing it.
I have a school photo of him with this stare on his face, and it’s really unpleasant.
I really despaired for him, but a miracle happened; he fell in love. He’s devoted to his wife and kids, and they know he will ruthlessly defend them.
maybe you're just a bad parent if your kid is doing drugs before they know basic algebra
@@realysalte9730
My ex husband was the bad parent. He gave the kid pot while I was at work. He let him use cocaine while I was at work. I finally got them apart, and his life straightened out.
@@cyn37211 a good mother would put a stop to that real quick...
@@realysalte9730
He was a phenomenal liar. I took him to a few child psychologists, and one of the top (at the time) rehab centers for children (it was called KOALA). They interviewed him for 2 hours, and told me it was my imagination, that he didn’t do drugs, and I should just chill. He later told me it was really easy to lie to these doctors. He’s always been able to con people.
When his father & I divorced, he stayed with his father (because that’s where he got his drugs).
When he finally wanted to get clean, he came to me and asked for help. He’s been clean over 20 years, and is happy. He doesn’t have much to do with his father.
@@nikkib473
I did everything in my power to put a stop to it. I turned his father in to the TBI, and they arrested and imprisoned his dealers, but not him, because he “had a family to support”, which was a real hoot, because I was the one working 3 jobs to put a roof over their heads and food on the table.
My older brother stared at me this way. He was 16 when i was born and we never really met til i was 16 myself. I thought i was getting to know my other side of my family but all along he was plotting to destroy and confuse me. I’ve always been extremely empathetic and i think this both attracted him and made him want to get rid of me looking back. He began being sexually inappropriate with me and did things that i try my best to never remember. And he had everyone convinced i was making things up to the point my memories still get mixed up even when family verifies and backs me up now that they all are no longer in denial. He did the same things and worse to other underage girls years after i ran away from my family at 17. I think that’s what finally made my family believe me. He was so evil especially to women and girls. He was molested as a boy by his female cousin and i believe that’s what started it. Then he was imprisoned for years which just made it worse. I’m upset that i still feel sad for him and have dated multiple men with similar characteristics always hoping i could save them like i couldn’t save my brother. But i just end up hurt in the end. I hope to break the cycle one day. But it all started with that stare and i definitely know it like the back of my hand.
My ex has this predatory stare, even male colleagues noticed, which shows me how extreme he is. They say, he's creepy. Out of thousands of workers, my ex's name fell at work when we once discussed the predatory stare. It was shocking. I mean, what are the odds his name came up?!
@Natasel LOL, you obviously haven't done the research about the inner wounded child attraction and the attraction between narcissists and an empath. They are highly manipulative, distracting from the dangers you see.
Sarah Z I have aspd and I’ve been told i have evil eyes by one person but I didn’t mean to look a certain way lol. I guess it comes from being non attentive to others but me being a sociopath i do find myself staring for a multitude of reasons usually aggressively because i sometimes get paranoid and it goes on from there. Maybe your ex was just a creep, some people stare at me but then i get confrontational if it happens. A lot of stigma is put onto sociopaths and honestly most of what i do anyway is innocent (without thinking) I don’t plan to hurt you lmao. I could though so i mean be careful lmao. It is just a less empathetic personality with a few additives and more extreme reactions to things. Like I can’t really feel fear as strongly as people around me, i am quick to anger and i usually escalate quickly but i tend to think a lot more philosophically because i seldom see the emotional reasoning of others unless i am close with them I won’t even think about how something would make them feel, so if we do hurt people a lot of the time it is in an innocent way; we aren’t all sadists so we don’t get this pleasure from hurting people lol. Interesting that your male colleagues even mentioned you exes stare because i would have kicked off
Murderous is how I perceived it when the stare was delivered toward me
Yes, the stare of my narcissist was dead and furious.
The stare of a predator
It is a demon looking through their eyes wishing they had the green light to go at you. Tiiiime is on my side....yesitis.
The terror experienced in that moment was something I could never NEVER imagine. I didn’t even know there was that level of fear was possible. I still can’t describe it, because it’s unlike anything I’ve ever experienced.
@@etherealbridge999 i did something bad and good
One of the most creepy stare,that really looks like it belongs to a crazy serial killer,is the stare of Elizabeth Holmes.Truly bone-chilling
Okay, now let's talk about; The Thousand Yard Stare. One that becomes present after being an actor in or being exposed to traumatic events that cause disbelief, regression and contemplation of the traumatic event(s), after the fact. This is also a symptom of PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder).
Need some test subjects,...talk to some Army and Marines Corps. Combat Veterans from Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. The VA is full of stories and events yet to be told. A word of caution, the ones who want to tell someone and everyone about their experiences are a little less than credible, yet not always. The ones who you have to pry it out of and they are reluctant, are the ones who were there. A lot of real soldiers who did truly experience such events, won't talk about it, because an average therapist won't be able to relate or understand. They need to find a connection before they will open up. Just a Heads Up!
It's dissociation due to overwhelming stress. I agree with you, people won't open up because they feel so alone, that no average person will understand or relate. Their trust is broken.
I would know because I also have non-combat PTSD and C-PTSD. They also don't want to be judged negatively by people who don't understand, or given platitudes.
I've seen variants of the stare many times. It comes from a _baaaaad_ place and no good will come from it. I've seen a person not seem to blink at all when stalking and being violent, with no change, even when confronted by the police. I've seen the deadened empathy that comes with emotional dysregulation that seems to come from BPD-style of overwhelm where the person begins to disassociate. I've also seen the stare that comes from anger and control, which is also with a complete failure of empathy, but seems to come together in a way that almost looks to exhilarate and delight, in a purely evil kind of way. It almost feels like if you look close enough, you'll see flames dancing in the pupils like in a cartoon.
Bottom line: Move along! The person's not in a good place and we don't need to dance with the devil, so-to-speak.
@Curteous Stop it!!! You can't fool us!!! You're all psychopaths!!! :)
I get that stare from BPD exactly when I begin to disassociate and am approaching the danger point. I've had multiple ex-girlfriends tell me 'I'm scared of you when you look at me like that'. Little did they know the damage was being done right then and there and would be purely psychological. But neither did I! Dance with the devil is funny... when I was 8 I got the 'Most Evil Camper of the Year' award in camp one year (they called me Damien as in the movie The Omen), and later one girlfriend nicknamed me the Tasmanian Devil, which i kind of like because he's insane yet still cute. He goes absolutely crazy yet never hurts anyone. This is basically me when I'm in the street and for whatever reason am raging, decompensating and looking someone or something to project it on. ua-cam.com/video/c54SvkgQ04A/v-deo.html
@Curteous nope, so not the same.
Curteous facts
@Curteous it could also just be his way of coping with how people perceive him over something he doesn't exactly have control over. some people are extremely introspective in a toxic way, and it comes from a place of a desire to change/ be better
So I get the blank stare. But my experience with a loved one is not the same. This persons eyes narrow, as if judging my ability to attack them or my ability to defend myself. Very much a stare of dominance. This is my cue to distance myself quickly because this person is no longer the person I know and love, this person is now a warrior.
Funny that you say like a warrior because I've seen it in the movie Warrior. Koba does the stare. Like a cat
My mother would have this stare but with shaking eyeballs very weird. I even asked her about it once she got extremely mad at me
I experienced this stare by an insane misogynistic male. Very frightening! Like I was prey. Felt I was in danger!
My wife and Friends has always characterized it as my "deranged look." I've used that look as a defense mechanism to stop people from messing with me or challenging me. When I display that look, it's preceded by extreme anger and at that point it's do or die.
He was aware of his stare and would boast about it when he was drinking. Being an alcoholic, he was always drinking. The stare could be anything from reptilian to icy to hatred-filled. He has lived a highly criminally diverse life, something out of a movie. Bragged about that as well. I've observed the stare focused on me as well as on other people. The stare is real.
He also self-diagnosed as a psychopath on the Hare test. I would characterize it more as sociopathic. Ticks all the boxes.
Those tests are not to be trusted. 😮 Im diagnosed as a psychopath, but just based on things i have done instead of my actual mental state. 🤔
@Moerlboro Cop No, an actual diagnose made by a professional. Well, biased professional. Thats why i know it isnt a suitable diagnosis for me.
The stare is 100% real. It is very penetrating. I mistook it for sexual chemistry.
It can hold a strong sexual grasp on you if you’re the submissive / empath type. They specifically seek these types out and pray on them
It took me years to realize this person was a genuine psychopath. The signs were always there (ASPD, fake charm, huge ego, superficial intellect, sex addiction etc) ....but I just couldn’t believe anyone can really be that callous.
I would notice almost instantly a distinct personality switch the minute this person got what they wanted and was done exploiting me. Even the energy in the room changed. Like another entity emerged.
No matter how much I wanted to get away, their charm always worked. And I’m the type no one can charm!
This made me doubt my diagnosis of them until once again the personality switch would happen. It was like day and night.
There were many dark rumors surrounding this person and the ultimate giveaway was a photo I saw in their room of them at age 8-10 with that exact stare!!
I’ve NEVER seen a child have this look in their eyes until that photo!
These people exist and it’s very scary.
I misinterpreted the stare as well, as sexual interest... how naive I was. It was predatory and the "love" story afterwards was the worst nightmare in my life!
The narcissistic/psychopathic stare is all about control and intimidation. I've seen it used as a way to express that they know their victim is right in a conflict but they won't admit what they've done or that they refuse to discuss it or refuse to apologize what they've done. "Don't even go there!" It's used to stop the communication and to leave the victim in a helpless state of mind. The victims typically steer the conversation to other issues since they have been left with no other option.
This only strengthens my thoughts on possibly being on a sociopathic spectrum to some degree. Along with every other symptom I've ever heard matching me, I used to play a game as a child at restaurants to stare into a random person's eyes, and force them to look away. They always looked away first, and I always felt accomplished.
or maybe they just had manners and didnt want to stare back at a dumb little kid playing silly games. clown.