"Screwdrivergiri" - How the Chinese built industrial capacity

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  • @roshanchachane142
    @roshanchachane142 13 днів тому +13

    Great points, sir. We should have been industrialised by now, since we got enough time after opening our economy in 1991, but our decision makers thought importing low tech items is good save money but forgot how it will have far reaching consequences in long run.

    • @Kliuy89
      @Kliuy89 9 днів тому

      There is no long run plan in Bharat. Though the plan exists there is no execution. Modiji is one of best PM Bharat is having. But the efforts put in is not sufficient. Chinese govt who ruled for 10 years before Xi jinping showcased their achievement by positioning Chinese economy as world's 2nd after USA. Can we have such a leader who can match their mindset ? I believe no.

    • @roshanchachane142
      @roshanchachane142 9 днів тому

      @@Kliuy89 Can't copy the Chinese Administration in India. These are two completely different systems. One is dictatorship and another is democracy. Even Narendra Modi is held accountable opposition, however, our opposition is led by an idiot. But still, Modi can't just go gung ho with every decision as he also has to win elections.

  • @LikeDeep-q6w
    @LikeDeep-q6w 13 днів тому +8

    I still remember how Indians (including me) used to laugh at the cheap Chinese products. The Chinese smartphones were especially considered a joke like until just few years ago (known for their loud and shrill speakers, also known as rickshaw speakers!). Little did we know that the joke was on us. Toda, China is a global powerhouse in Smartphone industry, many of whom have graduated and expanded in EV space giving Tesla some sleepless night. While we Indians still cannot manufacture a fully indigenous basic smartphone by ourselves.

    • @warpdrive9229
      @warpdrive9229 10 днів тому +3

      Another example is how they created Deepseek-R1 rivalling ChatGPT's o1 reasoning model at a much lesser cost.

  • @direwolf7491
    @direwolf7491 13 днів тому +6

    Finally someone talking sense

  • @srikanth85in
    @srikanth85in 13 днів тому +9

    Building such industrial capacity needs vision and will power both from government and babus. The bureaucracy is egotistical and feels they know everything with nothing to learn and improve upon. They’re more interested in finding problems in solutions than solutions for problems.
    The tax regime, high logistical cost, lack of skilled manpower and arbitrary law enforcement will never help us become an industrial powerhouse. It’ll be either Vietnam or other ASEAN nations that’ll be in a better position to replace China.

  • @mintdel333
    @mintdel333 13 днів тому +5

    100% agreed with u sir

  • @Soquoifrere
    @Soquoifrere 13 днів тому +6

    Indian engineering talent is below par and that explains it all. All Indians aspire to be keyboard warriors (IT) but are unable and incapable of setting up small companies to produce even simple items. India imports all the items from China. Shame on Indian engineers

    • @-Blue-_
      @-Blue-_ 12 днів тому

      So ISRO engineering talents are below par ? App idhar khud keyboard warrior ki tarah ghar mai beth ke comment kar rehe ho

    • @ranfak
      @ranfak 11 днів тому

      ​@@-Blue-_ISRO is overhyped. Nothing new and nothing extra that it need to he overhyped that much if you keep doing that it will again flatter down in coming days. They using old rockets with help of international players same like so called made in India tag but deep down we know where those product came from .... and many more....

  • @vivekjaiswal2422
    @vivekjaiswal2422 13 днів тому +3

    Same situation in IT sector too,
    as a one of the major silicon sector hub we don't have a single product for global market.

  • @neumoi3324
    @neumoi3324 8 днів тому

    My brother, an IITian from Kharagpur, went for the 75 th formation day of his IIT. He told me that the IIT looks the same as it was in 1960s. There is no change whatsoever, Kharagpur town looks like the same village that it used to be then. Only cycle rickshaws have become electric ones. The HOD of his department said they find it difficult to find teachers for the basic courses, the students are substandard, what with 60 % of the seats being filled by what Americans call ‘DEI’. Now try to build your own jet engines. Good luck.

  • @vbtktr
    @vbtktr 13 днів тому +2

    I don't know the meaning of "Screwdrivergiri". But I know that "HAL" was a private company and a successful company before 1947, maybe only non-white aircraft assembling company in the world. In my view it was a good start, after 1947 this country has great leadership.

  • @bilalbaig8586
    @bilalbaig8586 13 днів тому +2

    The real issue here is education in India. More than 50% of Indians today cannot do mildly complicated maths like multiplication and division even if they were given a calculator.

  • @ameyajadhav7634
    @ameyajadhav7634 13 днів тому +1

    Your simple and to the point explanation is very good 🎉

  • @Muhammad_Lenin_Thomas
    @Muhammad_Lenin_Thomas 11 днів тому +1

    Very important msg.

  • @hitzrocks4225
    @hitzrocks4225 13 днів тому +2

    👍 Thank you for sharing this video ❤
    This must be an eye opener for us and must learn to grow.
    Jai Hind 🇮🇳

  • @gunnvant
    @gunnvant 13 днів тому

    Thanks Dr.

  • @manofsan
    @manofsan 10 днів тому

    Screwdriver-giri is fine for establishing industrial base. It's still not enough for our national defense.
    It's necessary - but not sufficient.
    Yes, we have to crawl/walk before we can run, but we need to get up to running speed ASAP.

  • @sigma-sigma1
    @sigma-sigma1 13 днів тому +8

    "Screwdriver" giri" Is not an bad idea if it is the beginning but if one gets stuck up in screwdriver giri" As it has happened with turbomeca shakti engine for alh where indigenous content is still about 20 to 25 % even after more than decades of license production .
    Whereas chinese when it came to foreign technology they did not mind "beg, borrow, buy, steal, copy, built " Etc. Etc.

    • @hannanhub1717
      @hannanhub1717 13 днів тому

      without r and d funding indigenious content wont improve

    • @-Blue-_
      @-Blue-_ 12 днів тому +1

      Ab to tu Datran 1500 ko bhi screwdriver se banaya hua bol dega, jab kaveri ban jayega usko bhi tu yahi bolega, jabki tera pura source hi unverified news sources rehta hai, DRDO ne jo hypersonic engine ka test kiya usko bhi yahi bolega, meggi todhi hai engine develop karna jo 1 ya 2 saal mai ban jata hai, abhi hi proper infrastructure banna start hua hai desh mai aur tujhe chaiye ki ham 2 saal ke under US ke level ka pahuch jaye engine tech mai

    • @sigma-sigma1
      @sigma-sigma1 12 днів тому

      @@-Blue-_ iam not talking about indigenous project but about so called many "license manufacturing " So called foreign oem technology transfer Project.

  • @barneylinux
    @barneylinux 12 днів тому +2

    You can’t build industrial capacity in just one field. China has advanced industrial capacity all fields.

  • @antwango
    @antwango 11 днів тому +1

    Vietnam and Thailand and even Pakistan are taking over India! Vietnam has Vinfast EVs! how can India compare itself to China!!!!
    Not even the US and combined EU dare compare themselves to China!!!

  • @midknightfenerir
    @midknightfenerir 13 днів тому +5

    The problem with India is that India never learned the lessons China learned when China was doing “screwdrivergiri”. China learned how to create the item or a comparable product by themselves. They hungrily devoured and devoted their time and effort to mastering whatever they were license producing. first from the Soviets and later from the west after the opening up of the country. India was always behind in this, scared of what the world and its allies would think, lack of technical knowledge and understanding and ultimately incompetence, lack of funding and support of the defense babus and government.

    • @jakedee4117
      @jakedee4117 13 днів тому

      The previous Chinese regime (the KMT Nationalists or the "Blue Chinese') were getting technology transfers from the Americans, Germanys and even the Japanese before the Red Chinese started getting technology from the Soviets.

  • @indraadi
    @indraadi 13 днів тому +3

    We can't trust our PSUs alone for our defence needs.Real innovation (even if it's screwdriver giri) has to come from established private sector companies or private startups.Thanks for sharing the video HS.

  • @sibsankarbanerjee1244
    @sibsankarbanerjee1244 13 днів тому +1

    Your observation is absolutely on the dot. Inefficient Indian political leadership with no capacity to foresee future necessities along with an unprofessional inept bureaucracy, has worsened the situation since independence. Only in the recent past we have noticed some improvements in this regard. Let's hope for the best.

    • @ranfak
      @ranfak 11 днів тому

      Stop blaming leader. And start blaming Indian big mouth with their brain , ego, and many more . Leader will be exactly like how citizens are lol.

  • @souravchakraborty6121
    @souravchakraborty6121 13 днів тому +3

    Wrong idea Actual Chinese development not come from "screwdrivergiri" rather "productgiri".Means in last develop their own product ,own R&D centre ,own national champion like Huwai,Xiomi,CATL,BYD,CRRC
    ,SMIC.
    Now let's take example of India who are doing "screwdrivergiri" in software last 20 year and even now we are doing same .There no national champion like in China or USA why??? But screwdrivergiri should led to development is't it.

    • @antwango
      @antwango 11 днів тому

      China has vision, planning and work ethics! By the time China returned / resumed / recovered from their humiliation China had lit a fire in her belly by the same colonialists and imperialists! China blamed itself for the humiliation not giving the foreign invading forces any credit!
      China knew it was weak during the last days and it was corrupt it was allowed to be corrupted because it was weak!
      China before the West took over WAS the envy of the world for luxury goods! Silk, Tea, Spice and All things nice! "Fine China" "Chinoiserie" were all coined because of the West wanting fine goods from China!
      China innovated quality goods! Was known for it! Was pillaged and invaded for it!
      China is just returning back to the centre! Taking back what belonged to her! China had always owned manufacturing and producing quality goods! China will wait for the next East India Tea company to arrive at her doorstep again!!! But this time fully prepared!

    • @Raytracer96024
      @Raytracer96024 11 днів тому

      100% true

  • @brianye964
    @brianye964 12 днів тому +4

    "If China can fo it, we can do it", this is the greatest myth of our time.

    • @AnoNymous-i1o
      @AnoNymous-i1o 11 днів тому

      But what do you mean by "we", Mr. Ye from China ?

  • @sandeepkumarkhuntia8839
    @sandeepkumarkhuntia8839 13 днів тому +1

    Our neighbours' border forces uniforms are far smarter than the Indian BSF.

  • @johnsullivan8673
    @johnsullivan8673 10 днів тому

    You don’t use CNC for bottle openers, you use stamping. You should look at how and why China climbed up the cnc value chain

  • @yviewer7655
    @yviewer7655 13 днів тому +7

    I believe HAL has been doing screwdrivergiri for long enough now.

  • @Achintyanath
    @Achintyanath 12 днів тому +2

    The Chinese created an elite class of engineers educated in the former USSR, Eastern Europe and even the US, that did the reverse engineering (which you call screwdrivergiri) and then the same elite class of Chinese engineers used low class Chinese workers as practically slave labor for manufacturing. Your knowledge about the Chinese system is very limited. The Chinese could do it because nobody could dare to oppose the Common Party of China. I doubt that any Indian worker would be able to work in the harsh conditions that those Chinese workers did.

    • @ranfak
      @ranfak 11 днів тому

      Lol so what kind of soft condition those so called indjan have..... when slum worm think that he is better off then ants who work hard.....many misunderstood that Eastern people are naturally more hardworking they just can't sit ideal but many mistook that as slave labor ...

    • @andrewsuryali8540
      @andrewsuryali8540 11 днів тому

      Communist Party?

    • @johnsullivan8673
      @johnsullivan8673 10 днів тому

      This is 100% false. You have no idea what you’re talking about. Which is honestly pretty typical for an indian

    • @Iamp-itt
      @Iamp-itt 10 днів тому

      醒醒吧,你就是那个对中国一无所知的人。你已经完全进入了抹黑中国的媒体的信息茧。这些媒体利用一个常识性的真理和99个谎言,无耻地诋毁和散布关于中国的谣言。中国已经进入中等收入国家的行列,他们的工作环境比印度好 10 倍,而印度目前是一个低收入和贫困国家。

  • @krishneelchand223
    @krishneelchand223 11 днів тому

    Chinese are hardworking, they will use any tactic to win for China however Indians will look for ways to move out of India

  • @Raytracer96024
    @Raytracer96024 11 днів тому

    Its too late for us
    The manufacturing race is finished and winner is declared, while we prepare for this race 😂
    Its over for us

  • @johnhero99
    @johnhero99 13 днів тому +1

    The jugad system is destroying india ..
    And the negligence of Quality control

  • @GSCLASSES02
    @GSCLASSES02 13 днів тому +1

    Tabhi mai sochu ki china j36 aur j50 ke bad v airforce,drdo aur ministry of defence wale itna chill kyu h yw jarur iski video dekhte honge
    Dushman vale 6th gen bana le pr khud 4th gen v nhi bana pa rhe

    • @johnhero99
      @johnhero99 13 днів тому +2

      Because due to over patriotism.. Indians don't question DEFENCE PSU .. like HAL , OFB etc

  • @nishanthnellutla
    @nishanthnellutla 13 днів тому

    Everything is true Sir, what's the solution??? We're really frustrated by the problems we face. There's no one solving the problems. That's the real issue in India right now. 😢

  • @mohba01
    @mohba01 12 днів тому

    India is atleast 20 years behind when it comes to manufacturing tooling compared to China

  • @pankaj399
    @pankaj399 13 днів тому +1

    PSU alone can give us strategic freedom. PSU staff repaired in Leh during the wars... there's no better time for India to support the Aviation and Industries. ISRO is the shining example of PSU can achieve

  • @supremeleader5516
    @supremeleader5516 13 днів тому

    You are missing important Context, chinese didn't boasted about their screwdrivergiri day and night while we do, hence we do not evolve and happy with screwdrivergiri only.

  • @bsaravana
    @bsaravana 13 днів тому

    We need accountability from the people running the show.

  • @viki_sky007
    @viki_sky007 13 днів тому

    I agree with all your points but The taxes are too high and the talent acquisition or training is too high. This is like a cycle of ev for ev cars u need more ev stations and for more ev station u need ev cars

  • @yatinders.rathore4503
    @yatinders.rathore4503 13 днів тому

    As always, Suttle presentation of hard facts...however uncomfortable it may sound, facts nevertheless...thank you!

  • @AnoNymous-i1o
    @AnoNymous-i1o 13 днів тому +11

    Why is our missile/space tech very advanced compared to fighter jet industry ? It has nothing to do with screwdrivergiri. The root problem is import lobby. There is incentive for vested interests to import. If we had no import option available then our fighter jet industry will rapidly progress. you have conveniently ignored Indian bike industry. It toppled China in Africa. Its simply not feasible to compete with China on low tech products. Anyway that trend is coming to an end. India does have products. Take fans for example. I got an exhaust fan for my bathroom - it is of such high quality and made in India for about Rs.1500. Whereas a cheap Chinese fan will break in 6 months. This is the case with all the consumer grade Made in India products. So what does this show. India can have industrial capability. India is not able to compete with China on low tech cheap products, which is ok. Problem with our defense woes is the Import lobby, not an inherent systemic manufacturing issue. Also for companies like HAL, their project management is garbage. They are not using the latest PM techniques like Lean/iterative Manufacturing. China is very effectively doing these techniques.

    • @polestarli3091
      @polestarli3091 12 днів тому

      你很无知,6个月坏掉是因为印度进口商给的钱极低,印度进口商只要求6个月寿命。而且印度没有基本的重工业和良好的教育基础,更没有好的社会基础制度。说个简单的,如果印度人不能革命,那印度永远不会变好。首先就是破除宗教和种姓制度。要做到这一切首先就是推翻现有的印度政权和政府,把婆罗门这些人的财产分割,建立更公平的社会。

    • @nitinmalik981
      @nitinmalik981 12 днів тому

      Don't bark...like other indian...shut up

    • @domokun845
      @domokun845 12 днів тому

      Why are Indians so insecure they have to compare with China? Focus on your own development, it's on a different trajectory and path than China.
      Citing one or two instances of sucess and expecting that will somehow keep happening is a surefire way to fall behind, especially when China dominates in everything else.
      Work hard, brag less and good things will come.

    • @ranfak
      @ranfak 11 днів тому

      Stop coping you don't have any advances missile.. only missile that you have is that russian made but tag made in India and what advance space tech u have lol its just old rocket its too overhyped.... and again made up story saying India motor bike toppled chinese motor bike haha what a self centeric u people are. When china had ban its motor bike and their motor bike has stop manufacturing because they had different plan and now we know they were working on EV and here Indian start beating drum of their own dillusion

    • @johnsullivan8673
      @johnsullivan8673 10 днів тому

      Lol. Indian made consumer goods are typically trash compared to Chinese origin goods. But good on you that you use, I assume, a toilet.

  • @jakedee4117
    @jakedee4117 13 днів тому

    I generally agree but you are wrong about the Chinese. They did not start to develop their technological and industrial infrastructure on the backs of cheap low quality goods exports to the west. They have been developing their technology and heavy industry for at least a century, under both the Nationalists and the Communists.
    Just one example amongst many, The Chinese launched their own satellite on their own rocket fired from their own territory on April 24, 1970 (Dong Fang Hong 1).
    BTW, Indian launched their first satellite on a Soviet rocket fired from Soviet territory on April 19, 1975 (Aryabhata).

  • @supremeleader5516
    @supremeleader5516 13 днів тому +3

    What India learned from screwdrivergiri of su30mki from decades? No result visible

    • @docshiv5798
      @docshiv5798 13 днів тому +1

      PSU HAL has the infra now to upgrade

    • @HashiramaSenyu
      @HashiramaSenyu 13 днів тому

      ​@@docshiv5798if HAL has the infra why is tejas still under development. Since the time of the start of tejas program the HAL has been unable to deliver a proper tejas which fulfills the needs of the iaf. All they are doing is showing it down the throat of the iaf.

    • @docshiv5798
      @docshiv5798 12 днів тому +1

      @HashiramaSenyu lol. It has the infra. Not the expertise to make the engine

  • @nimaicharan7107
    @nimaicharan7107 12 днів тому

    Ham bhi screwdriver leke su 30 se leke mig 21 tak banaya but tot ke bawajood ajj bhi screwdriver leke hila rahe hain...

  • @AnoNymous-i1o
    @AnoNymous-i1o 11 днів тому

    I thought Shiv ji being in the geopol space for decades would have much better understanding of the situation. He took one example of niche medical equipment manufacturing and went on to build an irrelevant case. We have manufacturing in India, go research it. We cant compete with China in the low end space for various reasons. No democracy can compete with them. They are essentially slave labour. China has lopsided development, they are not our role model. We can learn _some_ lessons from them (like rapid iterative development). But by no means are they any role model for us. If you think they are our role model, then you should just stick to medical profession and leave geopol/national matters to others. China is on the verge of collapse. If X! gets brainstr0ke tomorrow, their whole country will go into a civil war. Perhaps you fell for all their PR show and tell.

    • @andrewsuryali8540
      @andrewsuryali8540 11 днів тому +2

      Chinese workers are paid more than Indian ones in both nominal and PPP dollars. The idea that China does slave labor is itself very outdated. You also have to remember that Chinese laborers spend an average of 20% of their income on groceries while the equivalent Indian laborer spends up to 40%.
      The point I'm making is that Indian workers are ALREADY WORKING IN WORSE CONDITIONS than their Chinese counterparts. The problem definitely does not lie in the labor force's inability to endure harsh working conditions. Indian workers ARE enduring those harsher conditions NOW.
      The current political instability in China comes precisely because modern Chinese workers are fed up with their working conditions, even as those conditions are getting better than what many AMERICANS endure. In India workers still tolerate much harsher conditions and don't complain. This shows that Indian workers are overall more able to "eat bitterness" than Chinese ones. So you can't blame the workers for not being hardworking. The problem lies much further up the chain.

    • @AnoNymous-i1o
      @AnoNymous-i1o 11 днів тому

      @@andrewsuryali8540 lot of projection. interesting that you can come up with 40% figures for Indian workers. here's news for you, only 2% pay income tax ie their income is all unreported black money. so how can you come up with number. its all bogus. your own former premier said 50% of China is in poverty. we have seen generals getting sacked left right and center. why are you people wasting time in psyops. this is a very small channel with no visibility at all. why dont you go and troll over palki's channel ? atleast you can fool more people there.

    • @turtlesoup8134
      @turtlesoup8134 11 днів тому +1

      @@andrewsuryali8540 political instability in China? what are you talking about? There is no mass strike or mass protest. It takes extreme poverty to create political instability in China. Learn from Chinese history.

    • @johnsullivan8673
      @johnsullivan8673 10 днів тому

      Chinese manufacturing labor wage is 3 times those in India. You can’t compete precisely because you won’t accept the basic truth that Indian culture is not conducive to actually getting things done. Just look at you coping here.

    • @Iamp-itt
      @Iamp-itt 10 днів тому

      @@AnoNymous-i1o Chinese President announced in 2019 that 1.4 billion Chinese people have completely escaped poverty. China's per capita GDP is 5 times that of India. The entire country of India is a huge dirty and smelly slum. A very small number of Brahmins and oligarchs in India own 80% of India's wealth. 1.2 billion people in India live in extreme poverty, and most of them rely on free food distributed by the Indian government to survive. India has many Indians like you who hate China. China will not care about a beggar country like India. India will always be a failed country.

  • @pradyumn2692
    @pradyumn2692 13 днів тому

    Sir, there's a new movie on the IAF called sky force. How accurate is it?