Amen brother...... I'm hooked on rebuilding stoves and lanterns. I can't wait to start giving them away to the next generation that will appreciate them. (If they are worthy) 😂
I hear what ya saying bro, I'm 56 and I've accumulated a nice collection of different models . Coleman fuel white gas is nothing more than naptha, available at hardware stores sometimes cheaper. Gasoline will do in a pinch but you'll have a maintenance cleaning more often. Just don't leave Gasoline in the tank packed away and a little Seafoam additive does wonders to keep carbon cleaned out of the generator. I really enjoyed this video and glad to see you put such emphasis on emergency low tech. Now get the Coleman folding oven box to go on top and it's biscuits and gravy time any time😮💪!
Nice work! Unlike a lantern, you open the valve all the way on these when you light them. Some instruction say "at least 2 full turns, but the result is the same. Set your lighter to the burner and open it quickly. Lighting lever up restricts the fuel pickup, but not all the way. This forces air from the top of the tank down to where the pickup is mostly blocked at high velocity and atomizes the fuel into a mist that comes back up in inner tube, through the valve and generator and into the mixing chamber where more air leans out the mixture so it will burn relatively cleanly until the generator is hot enough to vaporize the fuel. If you don't open the main valve enough on startup, air volume and velocity are insufficient to atomize the fuel and you flood the generator and get yellow flames. Claims that the lever only allows tank air and vapors into the generator are incorrect. Those vapors are nowhere near rich enough to burn after going through the mixing chamber and picking up additional air. Liquid fuel atomization at the bottom of the fuel/air tube/fuel pickup is the key to the instant lighting process. This is why plenty of pressure and quickly opening the valve at least 2 FULL turns is needed for clean lightups. As soon as it lights, start pumping again. About one pump per second until the generator is hot and the blue flames start pulsing and jumping off the burner. This indicates the fuel is vaporizing and the mixture is now too lean because too much air is being introduced into the generator. Flip the lever down and you are ready to rock and roll. Give it a try and see what you think. The abbreviated version of this is on the lid.
The lighting lever when up blocks off the liquid in the tank and allows the vapor from the top of the tank to pass through the hole at the top so you can light the stove. After about a minute, you can turn the lever down once the generator is warm enough to vaporize the fuel. The lever is not a cleaning rod, like on a lantern.
I took my 432A stove out today filled it with gas and pumped the daylights out of it. Lit it expecting to see the usual 2 foot high yellow flame before the generator warms up. Nope just blue yellow small flames till it warmed up. This stove cost me 15 bucks and works wonderfully .Yes I took it apart and cleaned , sanded , painted , and filled it with gas , but no parts required to fix it! So as it was getting that blue flame I pumped it some more and set my Coleman oven on top. 10+ minutes later it was at 350° and in went a loaf of bread and 22 minutes later done. The stove was on low most of the time and just adjusted to keep the temperature at 350. I could have put my coffee pot on the other burner as there is lots of room. Hmmmn middle rack and still burnt the bottom. So from what I have read I need something on the floor of the oven to distribute the heat better. BTW it was sprinkling out as I was baking! Lots of these on Facebook marketplace and some people have really greedy prices but generally a working Coleman stove is around 15-35 bucks.
Excellent story Bruce! Thanks for sharing, such a great product that every family should have. Try throwing a cast iron pan in the bottom to help with that heat control.
@@JessesWorkshop The alternative was to pick up some flat steel but I just happen to have my old Wagner frying pan that has cracked and leaks . I have not thrown it away for sentimental reasons but you have mow given me a use for it.
Amen brother...... I'm hooked on rebuilding stoves and lanterns. I can't wait to start giving them away to the next generation that will appreciate them. (If they are worthy) 😂
It's Frank from OTC. He's the one who got me into this crazy lantern obsession.
I just picked up a 413F yesterday to restore and I can't wait to tear into it! Thanks for the inspiration!
I hear what ya saying bro, I'm 56 and I've accumulated a nice collection of different models . Coleman fuel white gas is nothing more than naptha, available at hardware stores sometimes cheaper. Gasoline will do in a pinch but you'll have a maintenance cleaning more often. Just don't leave Gasoline in the tank packed away and a little Seafoam additive does wonders to keep carbon cleaned out of the generator. I really enjoyed this video and glad to see you put such emphasis on emergency low tech. Now get the Coleman folding oven box to go on top and it's biscuits and gravy time any time😮💪!
Nice work!
Unlike a lantern, you open the valve all the way on these when you light them. Some instruction say "at least 2 full turns, but the result is the same. Set your lighter to the burner and open it quickly.
Lighting lever up restricts the fuel pickup, but not all the way. This forces air from the top of the tank down to where the pickup is mostly blocked at high velocity and atomizes the fuel into a mist that comes back up in inner tube, through the valve and generator and into the mixing chamber where more air leans out the mixture so it will burn relatively cleanly until the generator is hot enough to vaporize the fuel. If you don't open the main valve enough on startup, air volume and velocity are insufficient to atomize the fuel and you flood the generator and get yellow flames.
Claims that the lever only allows tank air and vapors into the generator are incorrect. Those vapors are nowhere near rich enough to burn after going through the mixing chamber and picking up additional air. Liquid fuel atomization at the bottom of the fuel/air tube/fuel pickup is the key to the instant lighting process. This is why plenty of pressure and quickly opening the valve at least 2 FULL turns is needed for clean lightups.
As soon as it lights, start pumping again. About one pump per second until the generator is hot and the blue flames start pulsing and jumping off the burner. This indicates the fuel is vaporizing and the mixture is now too lean because too much air is being introduced into the generator. Flip the lever down and you are ready to rock and roll.
Give it a try and see what you think. The abbreviated version of this is on the lid.
Sagebrush bob has some videos but one can use 22 cal brush to clean the generator tube.
The lighting lever when up blocks off the liquid in the tank and allows the vapor from the top of the tank to pass through the hole at the top so you can light the stove. After about a minute, you can turn the lever down once the generator is warm enough to vaporize the fuel. The lever is not a cleaning rod, like on a lantern.
Great video! I was lucky to get a 426B in Germany, restored it and now it works perfect! Keep up the videos and post an update of those Colemans soon!
Thank you! Glad to hear about your find!
I took my 432A stove out today filled it with gas and pumped the daylights out of it. Lit it expecting to see the usual 2 foot high yellow flame before the generator warms up. Nope just blue yellow small flames till it warmed up. This stove cost me 15 bucks and works wonderfully .Yes I took it apart and cleaned , sanded , painted , and filled it with gas , but no parts required to fix it!
So as it was getting that blue flame I pumped it some more and set my Coleman oven on top. 10+ minutes later it was at 350° and in went a loaf of bread and 22 minutes later done. The stove was on low most of the time and just adjusted to keep the temperature at 350. I could have put my coffee pot on the other burner as there is lots of room. Hmmmn middle rack and still burnt the bottom. So from what I have read I need something on the floor of the oven to distribute the heat better. BTW it was sprinkling out as I was baking!
Lots of these on Facebook marketplace and some people have really greedy prices but generally a working Coleman stove is around 15-35 bucks.
Excellent story Bruce! Thanks for sharing, such a great product that every family should have. Try throwing a cast iron pan in the bottom to help with that heat control.
@@JessesWorkshop The alternative was to pick up some flat steel but I just happen to have my old Wagner frying pan that has cracked and leaks . I have not thrown it away for sentimental reasons but you have mow given me a use for it.
Haven't tried my NOS oven yet..,.but have a cheap pizza stone for the bottom to even out the heat.
There never were instructions on a stove knob... The instructions are embossed on top of the tank. Lanterns had instructions on the knob.
A gallon of vinegar is $3.67 now at Walmart. Thank a Democrat.