Hi from Edmonton again, Watch one Advanture at a time, they also have not enough power in the pro master ( and traction issues on hills) Don’t be so fast to write off the sprinter line. We have a Roadtrek adventurous RS , 22.5 feet long, can park on the street to sleep if we have to. King size bed, Mercedes diesel that gets 24 mpg( no exaggeration here). Perfect for 2. Pricey, yes, but they also keep their value when resale time comes. If the emissions stuff is scary, buy an older one. Ours is a 2007, zero garbage like that. Doesn’t need DEF either. Indoor and outdoor showers, tons of storage and that diesel will pull up a hill past all the trailer rigs that are struggling. Can get it with 2 seats instead of 4 so you can add/have a pantry and clothes closet where the other 2seats would be. Look at the resale prices….. you’ll see the others fall much faster than a Roadtrek.
Check out the AIRSTREAM RANGELINE (built on the ProMaster chassis). Full indoor wet-bath, elegant European-designed interior, quality solid cabinetry). Everything you need at a much lower price than the Panoramic. We LOVE ours!
Watch The Vandersons. They have a Ram and have a ton of problems. They travelled a lot in South America too and sometimes had difficulty finding places to fix their vehicle.
We have a Winnebago Solis 59P. We bought ours here in Texas. It may not be what your looking for but we love ours. We just hit 50k miles this week. Yes $260k is way to much money.
PS Kale used to be classified as a superfood. However, it is now recognized as a major contributor to stones! Kidney, in particular. Far too high in oxalates for healthy consumption. Especially raw. Cook to death and don’t eat much!
That's what we thought. Glad to hear we aren't completely unrealistic in thinking a van shouldn't cost that much. We added it up - a brand new RAM is between 60-80,000, so with an asking price of $260,000 they are saying that the build is worth almost $200,000! Just, no.
Wow very interesting topic on vans and gardening!! To me the price on vans and class c are very pricey!! Sometimes second hand looks ok but they can be close to the original price . So do I have a answere ?? To much money at this stage of my life . As you know I always enjoy your channel and your adventures and sometimes they are really interesting. This was one of them !!!!! As always BS & BK & BC !!!!
You're right about some selling for close to their original price. In fact, we have seen some vans sell for more than they were purchased for at the height of the pandemic when practically everyone was building a van and they were in such short supply. Maybe it's possible the RV market is still trying to ride that wave?
Your gardens are amazing-the design, layout and the variety of plants. Some of my perennials are starting to look ‘autumnal’, but there is still lots of colour. You may have already done this, but with lots of plants like foxglove and salvia, etc., I snip off the finished blooms and often get a second flowering. 💕💕
We tried snipping the salvia and for some reason they didn't rebloom? The foxglove definitely bloomed a second time with smaller flowers, but still lovely. They are wild foxglove, though, and we've noticed that they don't last quite as long as the domesticated varieties.
Your garden is AMAZING I’m green with envy ,I agree with you way too much money too spend on a recreation vehicle everything depreciates! Stopped off at the bakery twice,had the best apple turnovers I have ever had ,met with you MEL,YOU ARE THE MOST EASY DOWN EARTH ,KIND PERSONAL PERSON I EVER MET KINDLY LET TAKE A SELFY OF YOU AND I AND DIDNT EVEN KNOW ME (Which I might say turned out very nice ) Thank you and keep up the great videos will be watching and maybe when I get to go through again I will definitely stop for more turnovers
Your garden is beautiful and I can see the pride you have in it. The video is a great recap of the "buying process" as you two do the search. I'm sure whatever you both will figure it out and get back on the road. :-)
Wow 260 is a lot. There other things to consider. You mentioned the maintenance cost for the Mercedes but Chrysler 3.6 has issues and so does the older Ford Echobooste. If it's you guys I'd rent a Van for a week before jumping in with booth feet and 100k. I hear Jay is in love with the van concept but your spending a lot of time in a tiny space. Better safe than sorry. Good luck in your quest. The RV show coming this fall may have some deals to temp you guys
You bring up a really good idea. Thanks for suggesting it! We had previously not considered renting one because a) the rentals are really expensive, and that b) we were so set on vanlife. But it's definitely an option worth exploring at this point.
Hi Mel and Jay, here’s a question you may have been asked before, so if you’ve done a video on this, let me know please. Debby, Wade, Jax and I are going south of the border in four weeks from now. We’re looking at Harvest Host and similar type discount accommodation sites. Which ones do you recommend and which ones are the better options? Cheers Eden
Hey Y'all! We've used Boondocker's Welcome, which is similar to Harvest Hosts, but campers stay at people's properties and have the opportunity to stay more than one night (usually). What we found difficult with it was finding places that could accommodate the size of our trailer close enough to where we wanted to go. For example, we wanted to go to Leavenworth, WA but had to camp in Everette (about an hour away). Having a smaller rig definitely opens up more options. Harvest Hosts is a good option if you plan to stay in a place for just one night. The catch is that you are expected to support the business where you are camped by purchasing something from their shop (fair enough), but in then you aren't actually saving that much. It's great for unique campsites and locations though since lots of them are found at breweries, wineries and farmsteads.
lol is right! Hope you grow some amazing food in your garden next year. We have found that the secret to a successful harvest is investing in good quality soil that is rich in compost, organic matter, and nutrients. It was a game changer for us.
Wow, what a beautiful garden you guy's have and so plentiful. I have pepper's, cucumbers, tomatoes, beans zucchini and raspberries in my garden this year. I agree it's not easy trying to find a van within a reasonable price range, but hang in there end of camping season you will start to see more and more coming up for sale and being patient will pay off. Once again great video and content. Thanks for sharing and good luck with the van shopping. Cheers
Thanks! We're hoping persistence will pay off and land us a great van for a fair price. Your garden sounds so productive as well! Our zucchini isn't doing so well this year, but we had a good yield from our raspberries considering it was their first season producing.
@HomeARoam I have been pollinating my own zucchini for a few years now. My friend who has a green thumb showed me how. There are some UA-cam videos out there that show as well. Good luck and take care.
Rofl what are we growing? Weeds and desperately trying to keep new cedars happy. I wouldn't know one plant from another. But I do know your garden is spectacular. The varieties of plant colours and placement are gorgeous and it doesn't go unnoticed that you have put a huge and consistent amount of work into that yard. ❤
You're so kind, thank you. We have put a lot of work into the yard and love spending time out there because of it. Amazingly, it's only about 2/3 developed! More to come!
Hola ! Met you guys in Baja in 2023. I bought my new 2021 cargo ford transit awd for $67k did the inside myself for under 20k & just love it, custom to my specs. Seems to be the only way for your budget. I am 5’10inch & have the bed sideway & is good with special framing .Good luck & all the best 🤗
Hola! Glad to hear from you and that you are enjoying your new build! Getting a van built custom is definitely an option we are considering so that we can have it the way we want it.
Good Morning from Oyama ,I have friends that are kicking themselves for paying $200,000.00++++++ for the Mercedes Camper Van . Its prob great if you're in your 20s or 80 plus ? Don't need the room to move around and very flexible and your just doing overnight . I know if we went from our 21 ft Trailer to a Van now in our life it would cost a lot more as it could mean a divorce . Oyama /RVer for 50 yrs
I would stay away from any commercially built RV because they are all junk. Even luxury built motor coaches and yachts. And trying to get major brand RV warranty problems fixed is just another night mare. As far as staying within your budget you might have to buy a used van and build it out yourself as many people do. Find a good carpenter or cabinet shop to work with you and get what you want at an affordable cost.
Thanks for the tip! Building our own is definitely an appealing option to be able to get exactly what we're looking for. Never thought of speaking to a cabinet maker. Thanks for letting us know there are potentially other ways we can get a build done. 🙏
Hi from Edmonton again, Watch one Advanture at a time, they also have not enough power in the pro master ( and traction issues on hills)
Don’t be so fast to write off the sprinter line. We have a Roadtrek adventurous RS , 22.5 feet long, can park on the street to sleep if we have to. King size bed, Mercedes diesel that gets 24 mpg( no exaggeration here). Perfect for 2. Pricey, yes, but they also keep their value when resale time comes. If the emissions stuff is scary, buy an older one. Ours is a 2007, zero garbage like that. Doesn’t need DEF either. Indoor and outdoor showers, tons of storage and that diesel will pull up a hill past all the trailer rigs that are struggling. Can get it with 2 seats instead of 4 so you can add/have a pantry and clothes closet where the other 2seats would be. Look at the resale prices….. you’ll see the others fall much faster than a Roadtrek.
Wow, sounds like you have a great rig! So many features to enjoy. Thanks for the suggestion.
So exciting!!! And that garden is fantastic!!
Hope you'll get to come see it in person!
Your garden is awesome …
Thanks! The sunken garden at Buschart gardens is our inspiration.
Check out the AIRSTREAM RANGELINE (built on the ProMaster chassis). Full indoor wet-bath, elegant European-designed interior, quality solid cabinetry). Everything you need at a much lower price than the Panoramic. We LOVE ours!
Thanks for the suggestion. We'll see if we can find one around here to check out.
Absolutely Beautiful Gardens!! You get a van and let's meet in Costa Rica ❤ And Yes 260,000 is WAY TO MUCH I agree with you Jason!!
Sounds like a deal, Julia!
Watch The Vandersons. They have a Ram and have a ton of problems. They travelled a lot in South America too and sometimes had difficulty finding places to fix their vehicle.
oh, that's interesting to know. Thanks for the suggestion.
We have a Winnebago Solis 59P. We bought ours here in Texas. It may not be what your looking for but we love ours. We just hit 50k miles this week. Yes $260k is way to much money.
Glad to hear you are enjoying your Solis. We've seen a few of those around here, too.
Promaster nearly 300HP. We used to drive buses full with only 150hp
good to know, thanks!
No, no and no again! 😂 That price is ridiculous (to me). Nice garden Mel.
PS Kale used to be classified as a superfood. However, it is now recognized as a major contributor to stones! Kidney, in particular. Far too high in oxalates for healthy consumption. Especially raw. Cook to death and don’t eat much!
That's what we thought. Glad to hear we aren't completely unrealistic in thinking a van shouldn't cost that much. We added it up - a brand new RAM is between 60-80,000, so with an asking price of $260,000 they are saying that the build is worth almost $200,000! Just, no.
oh interesting, didn't know that and we will keep that in mind!
Try Safari Condo for a van. We have one of their campers and they are awesome!
We've heard of those, but they are so popular they are hard to come by. Any suggestions where to look for a previously-owned one?
Wow very interesting topic on vans and gardening!! To me the price on vans and class c are very pricey!! Sometimes second hand looks ok but they can be close to the original price . So do I have a answere ?? To much money at this stage of my life . As you know I always enjoy your channel and your adventures and sometimes they are really interesting. This was one of them !!!!! As always BS & BK & BC !!!!
You're right about some selling for close to their original price. In fact, we have seen some vans sell for more than they were purchased for at the height of the pandemic when practically everyone was building a van and they were in such short supply. Maybe it's possible the RV market is still trying to ride that wave?
We would not spend $260,000. Keep looking. You’ll eventually find the right van. Happy hunting.
Your gardens are amazing-the design, layout and the variety of plants. Some of my perennials are starting to look ‘autumnal’, but there is still lots of colour. You may have already done this, but with lots of plants like foxglove and salvia, etc., I snip off the finished blooms and often get a second flowering. 💕💕
We tried snipping the salvia and for some reason they didn't rebloom? The foxglove definitely bloomed a second time with smaller flowers, but still lovely. They are wild foxglove, though, and we've noticed that they don't last quite as long as the domesticated varieties.
Your garden is AMAZING I’m green with envy ,I agree with you way too much money too spend on a recreation vehicle everything depreciates! Stopped off at the bakery twice,had the best apple turnovers I have ever had ,met with you MEL,YOU ARE THE MOST EASY DOWN EARTH ,KIND PERSONAL PERSON I EVER MET KINDLY LET TAKE A SELFY OF YOU AND I AND DIDNT EVEN KNOW ME (Which I might say turned out very nice ) Thank you and keep up the great videos will be watching and maybe when I get to go through again I will definitely stop for more turnovers
This must be Judy? It was lovely to meet you at the bakery the other week. Thanks for stopping in and glad to hear you enjoyed the pastries!
@@HomeARoam Thank you very much!
Your garden is beautiful and I can see the pride you have in it. The video is a great recap of the "buying process" as you two do the search. I'm sure whatever you both will figure it out and get back on the road. :-)
We are hopeful that we'll have something for this winter, otherwise we might have to endure a Canadian winter! 😱
Wow 260 is a lot. There other things to consider. You mentioned the maintenance cost for the Mercedes but Chrysler 3.6 has issues and so does the older Ford Echobooste. If it's you guys I'd rent a Van for a week before jumping in with booth feet and 100k. I hear Jay is in love with the van concept but your spending a lot of time in a tiny space. Better safe than sorry. Good luck in your quest. The RV show coming this fall may have some deals to temp you guys
You bring up a really good idea. Thanks for suggesting it! We had previously not considered renting one because a) the rentals are really expensive, and that b) we were so set on vanlife. But it's definitely an option worth exploring at this point.
Get a chassis and have it built out to your design?
That's something we are definitely considering
Hi Mel and Jay, here’s a question you may have been asked before, so if you’ve done a video on this, let me know please. Debby, Wade, Jax and I are going south of the border in four weeks from now. We’re looking at Harvest Host and similar type discount accommodation sites. Which ones do you recommend and which ones are the better options? Cheers Eden
Hey Y'all! We've used Boondocker's Welcome, which is similar to Harvest Hosts, but campers stay at people's properties and have the opportunity to stay more than one night (usually). What we found difficult with it was finding places that could accommodate the size of our trailer close enough to where we wanted to go. For example, we wanted to go to Leavenworth, WA but had to camp in Everette (about an hour away). Having a smaller rig definitely opens up more options. Harvest Hosts is a good option if you plan to stay in a place for just one night. The catch is that you are expected to support the business where you are camped by purchasing something from their shop (fair enough), but in then you aren't actually saving that much. It's great for unique campsites and locations though since lots of them are found at breweries, wineries and farmsteads.
Lol to the 260 thousand van! Nice garden there. We're thinking of a veggie garden next year.
lol is right! Hope you grow some amazing food in your garden next year. We have found that the secret to a successful harvest is investing in good quality soil that is rich in compost, organic matter, and nutrients. It was a game changer for us.
@HomeARoam our only concern is the monsoons we get here in NM. We should consult with a nursery here first since we are originally from so cal.
still think truck and trailer is the best. could go with smaller truck and smaller trailer
It's definitely something we have considered.
Wow, what a beautiful garden you guy's have and so plentiful.
I have pepper's, cucumbers, tomatoes, beans zucchini and raspberries in my garden this year.
I agree it's not easy trying to find a van within a reasonable price range, but hang in there end of camping season you will start to see more and more coming up for sale and being patient will pay off.
Once again great video and content. Thanks for sharing and good luck with the van shopping. Cheers
Thanks! We're hoping persistence will pay off and land us a great van for a fair price.
Your garden sounds so productive as well! Our zucchini isn't doing so well this year, but we had a good yield from our raspberries considering it was their first season producing.
@HomeARoam I have been pollinating my own zucchini for a few years now. My friend who has a green thumb showed me how. There are some UA-cam videos out there that show as well. Good luck and take care.
Have you checked out Humble Road's vans? He has a youtube channel and builds the best ones.
Thanks for the suggestion. Haven't heard of Humble Roads, but we will look him up.
@@HomeARoam youtube.com/@humbleroad?si=iNtPRzUzf9JFTSsC
Rofl what are we growing? Weeds and desperately trying to keep new cedars happy. I wouldn't know one plant from another. But I do know your garden is spectacular. The varieties of plant colours and placement are gorgeous and it doesn't go unnoticed that you have put a huge and consistent amount of work into that yard. ❤
You're so kind, thank you. We have put a lot of work into the yard and love spending time out there because of it. Amazingly, it's only about 2/3 developed! More to come!
Love your Food Forest.
Thanks! It is a bit of a forest out there. Everything is so tall!
Hola ! Met you guys in Baja in 2023. I bought my new 2021 cargo ford transit awd for $67k did the inside myself for under 20k & just love it, custom to my specs. Seems to be the only way for your budget. I am 5’10inch & have the bed sideway & is good with special framing .Good luck & all the best 🤗
Hola! Glad to hear from you and that you are enjoying your new build! Getting a van built custom is definitely an option we are considering so that we can have it the way we want it.
Good Morning from Oyama ,I have friends that are kicking themselves for paying $200,000.00++++++ for the Mercedes Camper Van . Its prob great if you're in your 20s or 80 plus ? Don't need the room to move around and very flexible and your just doing overnight . I know if we went from our 21 ft Trailer to a Van now in our life it would cost a lot more as it could mean a divorce .
Oyama /RVer for 50 yrs
Yeah those Mercedes vans are super expensive! You're right, there are lots of considerations before moving into such a tiny space.
Not as tiny as you think. Remember , you’re camping , it’s not the rig for snow birding for 4 months in one spot.
I would stay away from any commercially built RV because they are all junk. Even luxury built motor coaches and yachts. And trying to get major brand RV warranty problems fixed is just another night mare. As far as staying within your budget you might have to buy a used van and build it out yourself as many people do. Find a good carpenter or cabinet shop to work with you and get what you want at an affordable cost.
Thanks for the tip! Building our own is definitely an appealing option to be able to get exactly what we're looking for. Never thought of speaking to a cabinet maker. Thanks for letting us know there are potentially other ways we can get a build done. 🙏
Would I spend that much on a Van? NO NO NO Big rip off.
We think so, too. Glad to hear others are thinking the same way as us!