If you are "open" to understanding, you will then effect the field in a way that it will yield the information you need. And it will "appear" in a way that is observable to you, based upon your current ability to understand and integrate the experience.Your new and ever expanding ability to participate,as well as your "level" of desire, to comprehend and understand, is also creating an effect on the field, therefore you will see you are perpetually creating new ways to observe your experience.
Im in the 12th grade with a developing disrespect for the U.S. public school system, and I cannot keep myself from asking, "WHY ARE WE NOT LEARNING THIS?!"
Mikeah Orie , Can’t learn in public schools, anything except what passes, at any given time in history, as “acceptable subject matter presented in an acceptable way”. And, History is always written by the victors. People are educated in general ways, minimally, so as to become better workers/cogs in wheels of industries...industries require that workers, even those highly educated, do not ask too many, or worse, the wrong...questions....never look at whether the company is proceeding as they should, according to good ethical standards. Industries are doing what they can because they can, to make profits...not necessary because they should. Many sectors have become stagnant...such as pharma/medicine, Agra-biz farming, etc., now making world populations sicker, more than they are helping. To put it short: we’ve been doin’ it wrong for too long. Change...a sea-change, is needed [look up what “sea change” really means, and try to wrap your brain around how huge that is....then understand, that a sea change is needed in almost every sector...mind-blowing!] The main goal of public schools [and private ones, just a bit different], is that they educate kids with fairly homogenized, fairly basic [read: limited] versions of information whatever current politics allows. Pick a country, any country...pretty similar. It is what it is. It’s a decent start. You get to choose what you do with it, good, bad or indifferent. IF kids knew how to look for the good bits in school, or anywhere else... instead of letting themselves get constantly derailed by bad programs and bad materials....they'd get better education, even from the schools currently around...but THAT capability is quickly disappearing, due to the agendas of a few. What’s taught, has been dumbed-down for numerous reasons, all which seem to make sense at the time whoever decides to make some change in the system or curricula. Schools have been teaching kids What to think, instead of How to think. Gov’t entities have tried hard to shut down universities, to stop anything like real learning/debating/research, etc., which might threaten current political regimes--doesn’t matter what country; US schools have done this too. Heaven forfend students demonstrate, investigate, research...and find out their fearless leaders have become mentally/behaviorally impaired hungry wolves, heavily bribed to do the bidding of corporations. Religions have historically promoted the ignorance of populations, and adherence to dogmas, the better to control populations. Emperor Constantine, 3rd Century, really knew how to work that game, to control his squabbling millions of people, by homogenizing/condensing beliefs and practices of many groups, into one State Religion, Christianity as we basically know it today [from which so many others have spun, for almost 2000 years], millions beaten into submission along the way. There’s far more to the equation though. Successive generations of families have been chronically targeted with divisive, fear-mongering, fractionating media at every level. Early Childhood Development[ECD] has been poorly done. ECD is the 1st stage of growth and development; basic programming/foundations....when those ‘foundations’ are poorly laid, whatever other growth and development happens after, gets “built wonky” upon it. That has created generations of poorly parented populations, increasingly affected with what more in psychology are starting to recognize is “emotional/spiritual crises”. People lack good foundations and internal “tools” to cope with stresses in life, and develop what most see as “mental illnesses”, and certainly, a dizzying array of other disfunctions. So, one finds school bleacher seats filled with “friends and family” come to see their kids perform at a school program; but, keep talking at-volume, not really “present” to observe their kids’ program. Extremely rude, that sends messages to the kids, that include that adults don’t really love them. It’s at a subconscious level...if you study psychology and early childhood development, you can learn more about this...but don’t expect the teachers, even in college, to be able to field some questions...they also teach what their told, or limited to what they’ve studied; they’re doing their basic jobs. Occasionally, you will find really great teachers...but to increase odds of getting those, one must screen for them before signing up to classes. One can also find some public schools [and hordes of religious-based ones] taken-over by certain fundamentalist religions, which forbid teachers to teach about Darwin or Evolution, and threaten teachers with firing, if they fail to promote Creationism. The same prevent children learning of, or joining, any social and life skills development groups which religions commonly disapprove of....so, no Demolay, Rainbow Girls, or Job’s Daughters...some even forbid Boy Scouts/Girl Scouts, etc. [for instance, recent news reports the LDS have now blocked Boy Scouts, and formed their own approved version] Granted, that can happen more in small towns which lack more governance or public push-back. But that it has happened in our modern world, is disturbing, for many reasons...lack of choice, lack of freedom, the insertion of newspeak and deletion of science-based theories, while substituting their own dogmas, etc. Note: to be a Theory, it must 1st have actual, measurable data, which might support that theory [idea]...the more, the better; Evolution is such a Theory, backed by much data which could lead to that idea being eventually found to be correct. Perfect? No, not yet deemed fully correct. But, Evolution is the closest thing we currently have, to what likely is correct. NOTHING of that, so far, can support Creationism, much beyond here-say [based on stories by authors who lacked language and understanding to convey their ideas clearly]. Religions do no favors, by continuing to block actual science [different from what some pass-off as science] investigating biblical stories to find the science at the root of them. Shamanism and other metaphysical subjects cannot really be substantiated using hard-science. It’s ephemeral, and subjective. Those who’ve been able to see beyond the veil of death, to see what happens after...find it hard to bring back quantifiable, qualifiable data, only their own subjective perspectives. That is otherwise known as “testimony”, which modern science has derogatory opinions of. Metaphysical subjects include religions; this has something to do with why there is, and should be, separation of Church and State. Universities have only fairly recently in history, offered a few courses on metaphysical subjects...some better than others. There Absolutely IS Science to these things....just not conveyed in ways modern science understands..yet. There Absolutely IS some solid basis/science behind many things Biblical, but, as long as people cloud them in religious terms and fears, few will ever learn much beyond the magical terms religions use to scare their congregations into submission, while extracting as much money and services from them as possible. It’s also off-putting to mainstream scientists and teachers, who also block progress learning of them, by off-handedly refuting mysticism, slamming the door, ridiculing what they know little of. You recognize there’s something wrong with schools. You therefore have developed some level of being able to think for yourself. You are old enough, to rationally choose to learn from other sources than official schools...just make sure you don’t get rooked by the floods of fakers and would-be experts...you need to be Discerning. The more you learn about any subject, and, learn how subjects are related and interconnected, the easier it is to discern the fakers from the real; consider how email Spam files catch/filter out so much junk...Now, extrapolate that to how you learn and build your knowledge. You’re waking up; likely you’ll discover that what passed as “education” up through high school/grade 12, is barely the tip of the iceberg! Keep learning! Be HUNGRY for knowledge. Seek the real stuff, as unbiased as you can. Then start figuring out where you stand on whatever it is. For me, the metaphysical awareness started very early, and has been mostly Solitary. Solitary’s fine but, it’s often better to have some teachers. It’s possible there will be different teachers along your path, with times spent solitary, too. Keep seeking/learning! If you find something inexplicable, go at cracking that, by figuring out how to replicate it. “Magic” is only knowledge/science which we have yet to learn about.
Mikeah Orie ...If one were to view the documentary"How Big Oil Conquered the World", perhaps, many aspects of our lives could be seen in a new light. (from a more broad perspective)
I picked up a copy of Fred's book in a second hand book store early in college, thinking it would help me with physics. Little did I know it left the seeds of the deconstruction of my belief in an objective reality, and the end of my security I had thought I had found in education. Small world, huh?
I have the honor of working with a Native American Shaman. and the first time I went through a healing ceremony with him[not for me] I came away absolutely convinced that there is a unseen world beyond our five senses [no drugs were used by the way]
what a great honest and accurate remark towards all of this, i cannot express how much i appreciate and enjoyed listening to this conversation, it gave me something honestly, very powerful subject by itself anyways, outstanding coverage on both sides as well, i found the subjects surrounding the point of Shamans and Healers and that type of incredible energy that was spoken about was perfect, Thank you Jeffrey, Thank you Fred
I was so surprised to see *Fred Alan Wolf* in the new *NINJA TURTLES II movie* "Out of the Shadows" (by Dave Green)! His face appears several times visibly on a background screen, when Donatello explains to his brothers how the trans-dimensional portal opens... _weird! I instantly recognized him... perhaps the director put him in for some particular reason?_
The video was not edited. I'm the producer director, and I made the UA-cam transfer. There might be a video glitch in the transfer, but there has been no editing.
After listening to this, I had to look up the word "shaman" and see how it's supposed to be pronounced. The most common pronunciation is the one used by Fred Wolf, but Jeffrey Mishlove's pronunciation is also acceptable. If they had realized they were both correct, one could have deferred to the other for the flow of the conversation. Jeffrey did defer at the end, for which I admire him. He's such a good guy. I really like Jeffrey Mishlove. I think there might be something metaphorically profound here. :)
Mikeah Orie, congratulations on being a thinker!! Learn this because it is truly how things work. We live in a multidimensional energetic world. Science is catching up, but meanwhile, it would be very good for you to learn what shamans know.
I read the description and found out this is not the full interview. In fact that goes for all the thinking allowed videos on youtube. This is a most magical discovery for me - I loved the interviews and now I found out there is so much more to them! Thanks for making these interviews... they are levels above interviews one comes across in life.
I just looked at the place where someone said it was edited, and darned if it isn't missing something. It wasn't edited, per se, but there's a piece missing.
Eintstein actually gave a lecture to support the notion of "aether" in the classic understanding of it, because he wanted to correct the folk asdumption that his theory "disproved" such a hypothesis, and he further wanted to show that his work actually depended on the existance of the aether or ether or whatnot.
thmsjordan Ah, so far I've only been able to find the small snippet of video from the part of the speech when he mentions it (just search Einstein aether on UA-cam), but then again I haven't searched very hard for either the full archival footage or a transcript. I saw the full lecture once before, but I haven't come across the file since.
The edited out statement he makes is "if you pronounce these sounds, you could evoke altered states of consciousness, which by the way is very parallel to things that are also true in the shamanic world."
I was fortunate enough to purchase a copy of "Space-Time and Beyond" at least 30 years ago. I've been through that book soooo many times I couldn't tell you. It's completely fallen apart and the pages are crispy yellow. It's one of the greatest mind benders of all time as it rings' so true. There's a section about traveling to the sun and reaching the speed of light. Read that and tell me you don't have a moment of clarity. Basically, in reality time and space are illusions, and every possible thing that has happened, or is happening, or will happen, is all just a thought at this very instant.
Fascinating. Will go further in exploring several aspects of the discussion. Am, as a visual artist, especially interested in visual communication. Working on a project based on Jewish Magic.--from Israel, thank you both.
has anyone noticed that the video cuts off at 3:39...from "if you pronounce these sounds, you could invoke"..and then goes to "exactly, exaclty".....i wanna know what you could invoke???
Dear Sir thank you so much for youre great job, it is very very exciting and interesting shaman rituals. I am really enjoyed watching the shaman ritual and the shaman dancing. My people also believe in shaman rituals and called them bon religion. I myself from Nepal and my peoples still believe in shaman. Thanks again for posting such a interesting shaman rituals on the you tube video. Udim Gurung.
I knew that, I just wanted to see it written first for fear of being accused of being a conspiracy theorist. thanks for the response, and do you know where I can get the unedited version of this video?
it was a a facetious comment. Guess your too busy trying to correct others rather than look at yourself, than to understand the the poetry of language and how allusion and metaphor give ingredients to our communication. No Offense... ;)
What he confirms when he says "exactly" is a statement from Mishlove about understanding that each of the letters in the Hebrew alphabet has a meaning each of their own and that if one understands those meanings, one will be able to understand the deeper meanings behind each word in Hebrew.
I think it's based on the interpretations of famous double slit experiments. When photons are observed they behave like particles, and when not observed they behave like wave.
What is with the editing out of the explanation of beliefs of the Kabala at around 4 min mark? Also I would like to encourage you to impiment this gem of a show on Spotify.
To me this is really interesting as both the host and the guest physicist are jewish . And speaking of the original sound in pronouncing the original name of the lord is strictly forbidden in jewish thought so to me this was a video editing glitch which based itself on the traditions of judaism in a synchronized manner very interesting.
You make a good point! One clue, Watson, the way you perceive my use of effect. Your education/experience is telling you, improper use. In this case the word is used properly. You have a clear prejudice that is causing you to "observe" in a way that maintains your idea that you behave "gruff "- like. You are much smarter than you think. Your Ouija reference that everyone is pretending deters your scientific progress.Last,"sorry" is either self-important vagueness or your biggest clue. Thank you
the sounds are easy to find out- what has been edited - sanskrit is a good start prior to this guys scene. Go into nature on a vision quest and see if the creator communicates with you. Tune in!
Everything are created by subconsciousness mind (our intention) so the universe. Our consciousness is created by our uncountable sub-consciousness mind. Our brain sending out billion of signals into the universe in every second with the speed that faster than light. ----
It comes out in tears for me. I also have the belief system that for the mere fact that it wasn't mine, it just transforms out side the person instead of inside the person. It doesn't have to be weird. You just go into your belief system of achieving the transformation that you are looking for. I really don't know what the tears are about. Maybe that is how I connect I guess. vodoo for dummies uses science to explore. ahahahahahaha!
someone this articulate and intelligent .. beyond so many of us, called himself a 'shaman'. back then. wow. also the plural of 'pendulum' is 'pendula'? wow
and so you know, this isnt an arguement, nor do i wish to teach you beyond what ive said, if you choose to or not, this is up to you, I know through experience that sound and mind can heal the body as I proved it to myself and for me, thats all that matters. I was very sick, Now I am walking fine, sometimes painless for weeks on end when it used to hurt constantly, Like burning metal in my bones, I get sore from doing too much yet again, I can walk, i walk better then before my bones broke, =-)
It is a very interesting subject because there is separation between western and eastern sciences and propably QM is where they collide. You can measure stars, mechanical things and physics with maths and high tech equipment and stare at one direction with your computers and then leave a worldwiew of hindu perspective of mathematics. 3rd dimension methods cannot measure 8th dimension events. Mens of science should be able to synthesize ideas with rest or world not just build over old ideas.
8:41 Beautiful. There are no waves. The wave-function has been way too reified (awesome mention, Jeffrey), and is now an illusion of an objective material reality. I would say metaphors of energy and vibration are still causing people to mistake the map for the territory. The mind perceiving will always be more fundamental than whatever vibration, energy or proposed morphogenic field that the future of physics may yet discover. I find it fascinating how many proposed theories of quantum gravity there are. It will be interesting where this all leads.
Each of the signals content a huge energy (vibration) it will affected our universe (included our solar system). All changes around us it is under the natural law. That was Buddha teach us three thousand years ago. We are all affected by the nature law which is cause by the conditional causation. (cause and effect) .All things created under the conditional causation and have a boundary. Want to leave out from the boundary.You must need to fully understand the law of nature how to run. Amitabha
Cancer is usually present in the angry person, weither or not they are willing to admit it, or think they are happy, most are not. Cancer comes from TV waves, radio and cell phones also, even tv manuals say, a small amount of radiation is emited. So, how much is it and how sensitive each person is matters. All bodies are at different levels of stress or happiness. Again, about the doctors symbol, turn it sideways and its a low sinwav facing a high one, that inwhich perfect balance can occur.
Fully disagree with Wolf at 5:05 (and G. Brown), you do not have to contain something to create something, you have to do the exact opposite. The power of nothingness allows one to travel to a powerful place, true creativity.
you might benefit from looking to the positives of discrimination, I think Fred is using containment as more or less a way to describe the space made needed to create matter.
+Nikolai Kaasa Since the host mentions The Eagle's Quest was Wolf's new book, I looked that up. It was originally published in 1991 so that's probably about the time when this interview was recorded
You must not pay attention...right at 3:37 when hes talking about invoking sounds, they edit it out...made me stop watching it. Theres no point in watching a video that cutts out all the good info...I'd rather watch the news if wanted half truths
have you heard of this book? The Spiritual Gift of Madness:The Failure of Psychiatry and the Rise of the Mad Pride Movement, by Seth Farber. It is all about what you say.
If you are "open" to understanding, you will then effect the field in a way that it will yield the information you need. And it will "appear" in a way that is observable to you, based upon your current ability to understand and integrate the experience.Your new and ever expanding ability to participate,as well as your "level" of desire, to comprehend and understand, is also creating an effect on the field, therefore you will see you are perpetually creating new ways to observe your experience.
Bullseye.
Mishlove is such a great interviewer...He asks the good questions...Wonderful magical stuff.
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@Camdyn Dante Flixzone...will check it out...thanx.
Im in the 12th grade with a developing disrespect for the U.S. public school system, and I cannot keep myself from asking, "WHY ARE WE NOT LEARNING THIS?!"
Apimp Namedslickback Public schools are meant to hold you down.
i think its more of an issue with whose approving the curricula and how much they were taught (their worldview)
Study on your own and share with your friends- schools will never teach what is truly important.
Mikeah Orie , Can’t learn in public schools, anything except what passes, at any given time in history, as “acceptable subject matter presented in an acceptable way”. And, History is always written by the victors.
People are educated in general ways, minimally, so as to become better workers/cogs in wheels of industries...industries require that workers, even those highly educated, do not ask too many, or worse, the wrong...questions....never look at whether the company is proceeding as they should, according to good ethical standards. Industries are doing what they can because they can, to make profits...not necessary because they should. Many sectors have become stagnant...such as pharma/medicine, Agra-biz farming, etc., now making world populations sicker, more than they are helping.
To put it short: we’ve been doin’ it wrong for too long.
Change...a sea-change, is needed [look up what “sea change” really means, and try to wrap your brain around how huge that is....then understand, that a sea change is needed in almost every sector...mind-blowing!]
The main goal of public schools [and private ones, just a bit different], is that they educate kids with fairly homogenized, fairly basic [read: limited] versions of information whatever current politics allows. Pick a country, any country...pretty similar.
It is what it is. It’s a decent start.
You get to choose what you do with it, good, bad or indifferent.
IF kids knew how to look for the good bits in school, or anywhere else... instead of letting themselves get constantly derailed by bad programs and bad materials....they'd get better education, even from the schools currently around...but THAT capability is quickly disappearing, due to the agendas of a few.
What’s taught, has been dumbed-down for numerous reasons, all which seem to make sense at the time whoever decides to make some change in the system or curricula.
Schools have been teaching kids What to think, instead of How to think.
Gov’t entities have tried hard to shut down universities, to stop anything like real learning/debating/research, etc., which might threaten current political regimes--doesn’t matter what country; US schools have done this too. Heaven forfend students demonstrate, investigate, research...and find out their fearless leaders have become mentally/behaviorally impaired hungry wolves, heavily bribed to do the bidding of corporations.
Religions have historically promoted the ignorance of populations, and adherence to dogmas, the better to control populations. Emperor Constantine, 3rd Century, really knew how to work that game, to control his squabbling millions of people, by homogenizing/condensing beliefs and practices of many groups, into one State Religion, Christianity as we basically know it today [from which so many others have spun, for almost 2000 years], millions beaten into submission along the way.
There’s far more to the equation though.
Successive generations of families have been chronically targeted with divisive, fear-mongering, fractionating media at every level. Early Childhood Development[ECD] has been poorly done. ECD is the 1st stage of growth and development; basic programming/foundations....when those ‘foundations’ are poorly laid, whatever other growth and development happens after, gets “built wonky” upon it. That has created generations of poorly parented populations, increasingly affected with what more in psychology are starting to recognize is “emotional/spiritual crises”. People lack good foundations and internal “tools” to cope with stresses in life, and develop what most see as “mental illnesses”, and certainly, a dizzying array of other disfunctions.
So, one finds school bleacher seats filled with “friends and family” come to see their kids perform at a school program; but, keep talking at-volume, not really “present” to observe their kids’ program. Extremely rude, that sends messages to the kids, that include that adults don’t really love them.
It’s at a subconscious level...if you study psychology and early childhood development, you can learn more about this...but don’t expect the teachers, even in college, to be able to field some questions...they also teach what their told, or limited to what they’ve studied; they’re doing their basic jobs. Occasionally, you will find really great teachers...but to increase odds of getting those, one must screen for them before signing up to classes.
One can also find some public schools [and hordes of religious-based ones] taken-over by certain fundamentalist religions, which forbid teachers to teach about Darwin or Evolution, and threaten teachers with firing, if they fail to promote Creationism. The same prevent children learning of, or joining, any social and life skills development groups which religions commonly disapprove of....so, no Demolay, Rainbow Girls, or Job’s Daughters...some even forbid Boy Scouts/Girl Scouts, etc. [for instance, recent news reports the LDS have now blocked Boy Scouts, and formed their own approved version]
Granted, that can happen more in small towns which lack more governance or public push-back.
But that it has happened in our modern world, is disturbing, for many reasons...lack of choice, lack of freedom, the insertion of newspeak and deletion of science-based theories, while substituting their own dogmas, etc.
Note: to be a Theory, it must 1st have actual, measurable data, which might support that theory [idea]...the more, the better; Evolution is such a Theory, backed by much data which could lead to that idea being eventually found to be correct. Perfect? No, not yet deemed fully correct. But, Evolution is the closest thing we currently have, to what likely is correct. NOTHING of that, so far, can support Creationism, much beyond here-say [based on stories by authors who lacked language and understanding to convey their ideas clearly]. Religions do no favors, by continuing to block actual science [different from what some pass-off as science] investigating biblical stories to find the science at the root of them.
Shamanism and other metaphysical subjects cannot really be substantiated using hard-science.
It’s ephemeral, and subjective. Those who’ve been able to see beyond the veil of death, to see what happens after...find it hard to bring back quantifiable, qualifiable data, only their own subjective perspectives.
That is otherwise known as “testimony”, which modern science has derogatory opinions of.
Metaphysical subjects include religions; this has something to do with why there is, and should be, separation of Church and State. Universities have only fairly recently in history, offered a few courses on metaphysical subjects...some better than others.
There Absolutely IS Science to these things....just not conveyed in ways modern science understands..yet.
There Absolutely IS some solid basis/science behind many things Biblical, but, as long as people cloud them in religious terms and fears, few will ever learn much beyond the magical terms religions use to scare their congregations into submission, while extracting as much money and services from them as possible.
It’s also off-putting to mainstream scientists and teachers, who also block progress learning of them, by off-handedly refuting mysticism, slamming the door, ridiculing what they know little of.
You recognize there’s something wrong with schools.
You therefore have developed some level of being able to think for yourself.
You are old enough, to rationally choose to learn from other sources than official schools...just make sure you don’t get rooked by the floods of fakers and would-be experts...you need to be Discerning.
The more you learn about any subject, and, learn how subjects are related and interconnected, the easier it is to discern the fakers from the real; consider how email Spam files catch/filter out so much junk...Now, extrapolate that to how you learn and build your knowledge.
You’re waking up; likely you’ll discover that what passed as “education” up through high school/grade 12, is barely the tip of the iceberg! Keep learning! Be HUNGRY for knowledge. Seek the real stuff, as unbiased as you can. Then start figuring out where you stand on whatever it is.
For me, the metaphysical awareness started very early, and has been mostly Solitary. Solitary’s fine but, it’s often better to have some teachers. It’s possible there will be different teachers along your path, with times spent solitary, too. Keep seeking/learning! If you find something inexplicable, go at cracking that, by figuring out how to replicate it. “Magic” is only knowledge/science which we have yet to learn about.
Mikeah Orie ...If one were to view the documentary"How Big Oil Conquered the World", perhaps, many aspects of our lives could be seen
in a new light. (from a more broad perspective)
I picked up a copy of Fred's book in a second hand book store early in college, thinking it would help me with physics. Little did I know it left the seeds of the deconstruction of my belief in an objective reality, and the end of my security I had thought I had found in education. Small world, huh?
A portion of the dialogue was removed at 3:40. Censorship sucks dick.
Fred Alan Wolf is one of my heroes. All of his books are a must read. You will want to read them more than once over the years. So much information.
I have the honor of working with a Native American Shaman. and the first time I went through a healing ceremony with him[not for me] I came away absolutely convinced that there is a unseen world beyond our five senses [no drugs were used by the way]
I suggest you to visit the Center Takiwasi site, but you probably already know them.
No plant spirits 😴
what a great honest and accurate remark towards all of this, i cannot express how much i appreciate and enjoyed listening to this conversation, it gave me something honestly, very powerful subject by itself anyways, outstanding coverage on both sides as well, i found the subjects surrounding the point of Shamans and Healers and that type of incredible energy that was spoken about was perfect, Thank you Jeffrey, Thank you Fred
I was so surprised to see *Fred Alan Wolf* in the new *NINJA TURTLES II movie* "Out of the Shadows" (by Dave Green)!
His face appears several times visibly on a background screen, when Donatello explains to his brothers how the trans-dimensional portal opens... _weird! I instantly recognized him... perhaps the director put him in for some particular reason?_
Manu Forster yes the reason he put him there is BECAUSE it was the part about the trans dimensional portal.
The video was not edited. I'm the producer director, and I made the UA-cam transfer. There might be a video glitch in the transfer, but there has been no editing.
After listening to this, I had to look up the word "shaman" and see how it's supposed to be pronounced. The most common pronunciation is the one used by Fred Wolf, but Jeffrey Mishlove's pronunciation is also acceptable. If they had realized they were both correct, one could have deferred to the other for the flow of the conversation. Jeffrey did defer at the end, for which I admire him. He's such a good guy. I really like Jeffrey Mishlove. I think there might be something metaphorically profound here. :)
Well he also said substantUate. 10:33. So....
Wonderful, thanks JM! Fred Alan W. is always a delight to listen to. Appreciate you so generously posting this @ UA-cam!
Wow what a video! Loved this on my path to healing and conciousness evolution.
Mikeah Orie, congratulations on being a thinker!! Learn this because it is truly how things work. We live in a multidimensional energetic world. Science is catching up, but meanwhile, it would be very good for you to learn what shamans know.
Interesting how the part about ayahuasca gets cut out... silly
"It's ok to learn about different states of consciousness, but don't dare touch them"
Shroooms babyyyy
I read the description and found out this is not the full interview. In fact that goes for all the thinking allowed videos on youtube. This is a most magical discovery for me - I loved the interviews and now I found out there is so much more to them! Thanks for making these interviews... they are levels above interviews one comes across in life.
Did you find the originals? Hi! I thought there was something missing within the first few minutes of watching. Still an amazing video. Thank you!
I just looked at the place where someone said it was edited, and darned if it isn't missing something. It wasn't edited, per se, but there's a piece missing.
It's a subtle but jarring cutting glitch. Do you have the original video?
Eintstein actually gave a lecture to support the notion of "aether" in the classic understanding of it, because he wanted to correct the folk asdumption that his theory "disproved" such a hypothesis, and he further wanted to show that his work actually depended on the existance of the aether or ether or whatnot.
I notice I made the typo "asdumption," but rather than click edit and correct it I will leave it intact as it amuses me greatly.
Is there any record of this lecture of Einstein's? That is something I would love to read!
thmsjordan Ah, so far I've only been able to find the small snippet of video from the part of the speech when he mentions it (just search Einstein aether on UA-cam), but then again I haven't searched very hard for either the full archival footage or a transcript. I saw the full lecture once before, but I haven't come across the file since.
Thanks for the info Vanguard. I will search for this.
thmsjordan
Totally.
Was cool to see him lecture :D
The edited out statement he makes is "if you pronounce these sounds, you could evoke altered states of consciousness, which by the way is very parallel to things that are also true in the shamanic world."
Lovely smile when he was called a shaman 😍
Jeffrey Mishlove is a gift to humanity.
What incredible conversation either way, i for one find it both interesting to hear the content, plus read the very astute critique in the comments.
I was fortunate enough to purchase a copy of "Space-Time and Beyond" at least 30 years ago. I've been through that book soooo many times I couldn't tell you. It's completely fallen apart and the pages are crispy yellow. It's one of the greatest mind benders of all time as it rings' so true. There's a section about traveling to the sun and reaching the speed of light. Read that and tell me you don't have a moment of clarity. Basically, in reality time and space are illusions, and every possible thing that has happened, or is happening, or will happen, is all just a thought at this very instant.
Thanks for putting this up. I have someone else to check out now, Ralph Blum.
Fascinating. Will go further in exploring several aspects of the discussion. Am, as a visual artist, especially interested in visual communication. Working on a project based on Jewish Magic.--from Israel, thank you both.
Thank you for this wonderful talk. ThinkingAllowed TV you did a great job transferring this to youtube.
Probably edited for marketing. And yes, if a part was cut out or is missing, it was edited. Good job keeping this going, Puharich would be proud.
has anyone noticed that the video cuts off at 3:39...from "if you pronounce these sounds, you could invoke"..and then goes to "exactly, exaclty".....i wanna know what you could invoke???
The interview was recorded in 1999
The great Fred Alan Wolfe.
Dear Sir thank you so much for youre great job, it is very very exciting and interesting shaman rituals. I am really enjoyed watching the shaman ritual and the shaman dancing. My people also believe in shaman rituals and called them bon religion. I myself from Nepal and my peoples still believe in shaman. Thanks again for posting such a interesting shaman rituals on the you tube video. Udim Gurung.
i love him !!!! thank's for these video ...
at 3:39, the video is edited. He was about to say what the sounds evoke. Why is it edited?
I knew that, I just wanted to see it written first for fear of being accused of being a conspiracy theorist. thanks for the response, and do you know where I can get the unedited version of this video?
it was a a facetious comment. Guess your too busy trying to correct others rather than look at yourself, than to understand the the poetry of language and how allusion and metaphor give ingredients to our communication. No Offense... ;)
He was about to say: "evoke altered states of consciousness".
What he confirms when he says "exactly" is a statement from Mishlove about understanding that each of the letters in the Hebrew alphabet has a meaning each of their own and that if one understands those meanings, one will be able to understand the deeper meanings behind each word in Hebrew.
I think it's based on the interpretations of famous double slit experiments. When photons are observed they behave like particles, and when not observed they behave like wave.
Oh, by the way, the book's name was "taking the quantum leap."
wow. thanks for doing that. i'm glad i get to watch these
What is with the editing out of the explanation of beliefs of the Kabala at around 4 min mark? Also I would like to encourage you to impiment this gem of a show on Spotify.
To me this is really interesting as both the host and the guest physicist are jewish . And speaking of the original sound in pronouncing the original name of the lord is strictly forbidden in jewish thought so to me this was a video editing glitch which based itself on the traditions of judaism in a synchronized manner very interesting.
You make a good point! One clue, Watson, the way you perceive my use of effect. Your education/experience is telling you, improper use. In this case the word is used properly. You have a clear prejudice that is causing you to "observe" in a way that maintains your idea that you behave "gruff "- like. You are much smarter than you think. Your Ouija reference that everyone is pretending deters your scientific progress.Last,"sorry" is either self-important vagueness or your biggest clue. Thank you
Love the phenomenology at the end
the sounds are easy to find out- what has been edited - sanskrit is a good start prior to this guys scene. Go into nature on a vision quest and see if the creator communicates with you. Tune in!
Did any of you catch that at 3:40 his sentence was cut out?
Everything are created by subconsciousness mind (our intention) so the universe. Our consciousness is created by our uncountable sub-consciousness mind. Our brain sending out billion of signals into the universe in every second with the speed that faster than light. ----
Is there a Pt 2? Good Talk...
Why was that evoke part cut out, just kidding, thank you for the upload.
Thank you for sharing
its quite disturbing that youtube edited a part (uploader says didnt edit but confirms edit is there). perhaps a reupload then?
It WORKED! By gosh the Doc did it!
And Thank you ;)
Cheers!
thanks for this.
it was edited I have seen the origanal and you took out some of the statments and words.
What was cut out at around 4 minutes????
Thank You More for me to think with......
It comes out in tears for me. I also have the belief system that for the mere fact that it wasn't mine, it just transforms out side the person instead of inside the person. It doesn't have to be weird. You just go into your belief system of achieving the transformation that you are looking for. I really don't know what the tears are about. Maybe that is how I connect I guess.
vodoo for dummies uses science to explore. ahahahahahaha!
Please upload the full interview
Read the comments above. This is complete, but FAW has others in this series. Peace.
3:35 "if you pronounce the words you could evoke..." there's something they don't want us to know.
Very scary thumbnail. 10/10
What do the vibrations evoke at the cut out part @ 3:35mins?????!??
3:37 why the part is cut out? What could I evoke yo
Exactly!
everything is energy including thought
ua-cam.com/video/yufAa4oFyug/v-deo.html so what are these sacred sounds? It seems the video was edited?
someone this articulate and intelligent .. beyond so many of us, called himself a 'shaman'. back then. wow.
also the plural of 'pendulum' is 'pendula'? wow
and so you know, this isnt an arguement, nor do i wish to teach you beyond what ive said, if you choose to or not, this is up to you, I know through experience that sound and mind can heal the body as I proved it to myself and for me, thats all that matters.
I was very sick, Now I am walking fine, sometimes painless for weeks on end when it used to hurt constantly, Like burning metal in my bones, I get sore from doing too much yet again, I can walk, i walk better then before my bones broke, =-)
@SleepIsMagic Yes, this is Fred Alan Wolf a.k.a. Dr Quantum
Incredible information! thank you for sharing
Jacobo grinberg brougth me here💕
Cool saw an Indian from India do the same with the vibrations so cool
This was done long back....
It is a very interesting subject because there is separation between western and eastern sciences and propably QM is where they collide.
You can measure stars, mechanical things and physics with maths and high tech equipment and stare at one direction with your computers and then leave a worldwiew of hindu perspective of mathematics. 3rd dimension methods cannot measure 8th dimension events. Mens of science should be able to synthesize ideas with rest or world not just build over old ideas.
3:36??? what happened to the audio ???
yes it was definitely edited at the exact time to cut out what you could evoke and what you could spell!
8:41 Beautiful. There are no waves. The wave-function has been way too reified (awesome mention, Jeffrey), and is now an illusion of an objective material reality. I would say metaphors of energy and vibration are still causing people to mistake the map for the territory. The mind perceiving will always be more fundamental than whatever vibration, energy or proposed morphogenic field that the future of physics may yet discover. I find it fascinating how many proposed theories of quantum gravity there are. It will be interesting where this all leads.
great stuff
lots of important points are deleted mid sentence...
Each of the signals content a huge energy (vibration) it will affected our universe (included our solar system). All changes around us it is under the natural law. That was Buddha teach us three thousand years ago. We are all affected by the nature law which is cause by the conditional causation. (cause and effect) .All things created under the conditional causation and have a boundary. Want to leave out from the boundary.You must need to fully understand the law of nature how to run. Amitabha
Cancer is usually present in the angry person, weither or not they are willing to admit it, or think they are happy, most are not. Cancer comes from TV waves, radio and cell phones also, even tv manuals say, a small amount of radiation is emited. So, how much is it and how sensitive each person is matters. All bodies are at different levels of stress or happiness. Again, about the doctors symbol, turn it sideways and its a low sinwav facing a high one, that inwhich perfect balance can occur.
Genius!
the difference between myth and theory, is relative to the difference between odd and eccentric, that difference is ego and bank account ...
The most interesting bits are cut out... WTF?
Fully disagree with Wolf at 5:05 (and G. Brown), you do not have to contain something to create something, you have to do the exact opposite. The power of nothingness allows one to travel to a powerful place, true creativity.
you might benefit from looking to the positives of discrimination, I think Fred is using containment as more or less a way to describe the space made needed to create matter.
Great talk here with these two Jewish men
Right at the word evoke? Evoke what? I wonder.
AJO,we are all healers!!!
Dr.Quantum!!
Got a huge television? =0)
Anyone know when this is from? Looks older than 2011..
+Nikolai Kaasa Since the host mentions The Eagle's Quest was Wolf's new book, I looked that up. It was originally published in 1991 so that's probably about the time when this interview was recorded
@3:39 "...sacred sounds...if you pronounced this sound you could evoke _________ ". Anyone fill the blank?
That was Cool. ;)
any chance of re-uploading?
Why has parts of the interview been edited or cut out?
or perhaps it was missing from the one you used. not much is missing that I can rember not anything of consequence.
You must not pay attention...right at 3:37 when hes talking about invoking sounds, they edit it out...made me stop watching it. Theres no point in watching a video that cutts out all the good info...I'd rather watch the news if wanted half truths
Well, I guess you certainly told them.
They edited out the main points I see
anyone know what a dead snake on a rd means as an omen ?
+Brett G The end of a transformation.
Time travel has been debunked now. Cabala is not the act of receiving, it is the act of a humble attitude.
@WolfRayStar Are you joking? These are quantum physicist, not "New Agers" that made these discoveries, and they are mathematically proven.
what year is this?
have you heard of this book? The Spiritual Gift of Madness:The Failure of Psychiatry and the Rise of the Mad Pride Movement, by Seth Farber. It is all about what you say.
What about dreaming?
I think that piece is missing because he evoked the Kabbalistic name of God, which can't be duplicated on film. :)