Budget headphone showdown! K361 VS NTH-100
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
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NOTE: several viewers report the locking mechanism on the rode NTH100 having problems with reliability! Rode definitely loses some points on build for this.
How is K361 in comparison to M40X in Sound Quality. Build and Quality is not my concerns. I want to know the Sound Quality difference.
I've heard they are very good with warranty at least
@@durrantmiller8810 Yup, they give Lifetime warranty for the locking system part.
The purpose of the locking mechanism is so that you don’t have to constantly adjust them. So if you are doing that then you have the wrong set because you are literally doing the very thing they were designed for you NOT to have to do. Almost as if you are intentionally looking to break them. That is called user error, not a manufacturer issue. Learn how to use them properly instead of searching for something to complain about.
@@speakupken I've left them locked at the same height for months and they still broke with almost no contact for me also. It's still a great headphone imo, but that's points off.
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@@ThevenimX Actually haven't seen his yet. A close friend of mine used to make neon signs and that gave me the idea.
@@DMS3TV It looks like the set of a low budget 70s porno.🖖😎🫶 Btw when are you going to update your headphone tier list or make a video?
5:02 thank you so much mate:) we, music producers appreciate your advice
Haven't watched yet, heading to work. so I'll just put my impressions owning both.
NTH100 is built much stronger other than reports of the locking mechanism breaking.
K361 is a little more flimsy feeling but seems to have less issues.
Sound wise, NTH100 is much more laid back. Less bass, less treble. Seeming almost like a warm-mid focused headphone, but it has some peaks at 4-5k which gives it a slight grainy or harsh edge to vocals and cymbals. It ends up sounding "lower resolution" to my ear
K361 is closer to harman tuning, but also sounds a little less warm, more of a sub bass emphasis with some treble emphasis, but not V shaped.
I wanted to like the Rode, but it's hard to recommend
Good assessment
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I use the K-361 at work, have been for months. Replaced the ATH m30X, and I haven't looked back. Love the sound.
Ive been using the K371 for post production studio work BUT with the Brainwavez hard velour and very happy with the accuracy and reliability for work I can get with them.I think these pads bring them to a next level...work wise at any rate
great video! For Live mixing scenarios - besides the K361, do you have any other closed back recommendations?
just dropping a comment for the god almighty algorithm and to say that I enjoyed yet another all-round great video. Your are you own self in and out and it comes across in all the features of your work. whatever that means :D
Cheers
A comparison between the best headphones from each price point would be awesome.
You did a review of the AKG K553 a while back. How would those compare to this line up and more so against the K361 now that the K553 MKII are 139$?
I changed the inner felt of the rode to senn style inner foams and they sound more extended in the highs and slightly less shouty that way. In the end, I still found them weird being small sounding. I like the hd280pro much more. K361 I've only had the bt version.
The set is looking great!
A review of the Avantone Planar would be neat!
would love a comparison between these headphones and the austrian audio X15 or X25BT
The Sennheiser Momentum 4 are coming, you kinda saved me from buying other products from my personal life savings. I have the uncomfortable Beoplay h95 cost me 800 dollars which has a metalic sound signature but i want something warmer now, of course I'm giving my old wireless headphone to a sibling who needs one or the Sennheiser :)
Mannn the ambiance of that room makes me feel like having a Ramen soup while listening to the rain fall against the windows.
What AMP, DAC etc. (full setup) would you buy if you could go all out moneywise for a Hifiman Susvara and/or Focal Utopia. Would you suggest tubes or rather not and if tubes would Schiit be a good brand? (or Schiit in general)
Thanks!
I have over 20 headphones, earbuds and iems, prices from £20 to £500. I love the Rode NTH 100 and regard them as my go to set. They just reveal so.much detail and have a huge soundstage...music sounds real.
How much better is the aeon 2 noire from the k361?
Curious how the Drop Hifiman HE-R7DX compares? I love mine. I got them for $99 and have seen them on sale during Prime Week for $79. I think they are a bargain.
Excellent Review! Lifelong musician…and appreciate the needs of us that have, as my father used to say “Champagne taste w/ a beer budget.” Nice job
sick comparason!
Great video as always! I'm curious, I'm looking for something to wear while I work, my budget is $250. I was looking at Moondrop Kato but wondering if any recs for over ears that might be a better option. I do not have the budget for any dac/amp and will be driven on macbook pro. I owned a pair of Shure srh840 and ran them down over the years, always thought they were okay but nothing special. Would like something to get that blown away feeling and not sure which way to go! Any advice would be greatly appreciated :)
I still have this doubt too, despite seeing people talking about it, I'm still confused
Do the Alcantara pads cause itching Iike velour?
Curious that more people don't mention the cable noise of the RODE, any impacts or scrapes against the cable seem to resonate in the chassis really loudly to me, to the extent that I can't enjoy them unless I'm completely still. Happens for both sides as well so shouldn't just be an issue with my unit, but for a pair of headphones designed for professional work it feels like a pretty big flaw to me.
Wind a few small coils up near the headphone connection point with a twist tie or zip lock.
Can you do a comparison of the Fostex Argon Modhouse MKlll T50 and the newer T60? Is the T 60 better, or is the MKlll still the king of under $500.00 headphones?
I got the akg k361 for about 60$ offer here in uk. pretty good for the price
I tried the NTH 100, they put pressure on my ears and on the top of my head. Compared to my Razer BlackShark v2 pro they are very uncomfortable.
I want a headphone around $80 for gaming and casual use , K361 is at that price in my country so it would be a great pick for gaming or not ?
that Rode nth graph is really really impressive for a closed back headphone
My K361 was good, but the headband snapped after 6 months when I tried to put them on my head. NTH100 sounds darker. It's very comfortable and looks like it's gonna last. Mine doesn't have any issues.
The locking mechanism cracked for me, but I was able to glue it shut. I'm getting channel imbalances on the side that's plugged in. But still, the NTH-100 are pretty sweet.
I have the k361 sitting on my drawer only because the earpads basically disintegrated on my ears(as I'm a very sweaty person its problematic for me having leather earcups) but i loved those specially the sound and comfort
I wish you could also do a search for the best pads for these akgs. They sure deserve it. Some of the best in their price range, i bet they sold (and sell) pretty nicely. OG ones are a bit shallow and get sweaty and sticky pretty easily. Not the most confortable. With proper earpads - that don't mess with the sond profile that much - these headphones could improve significantly as confort is their weakest point.
Impeccable timing
I just recently found your channel and love your reviews. This is a bit belated and maybe you don’t answer old video questions however, I’m a bit perplexed by the possible differences between the K361 and the K371. Seeing you didn’t mention the 371, are they obviously not just the updated version? Would you pick the 361 over their higher number brother or are they a different can in every way?
The 361 and 371 both released at the same time. I find the 371 to sound hollow and bassy. Higher number is usually not better in audio, just different.
@@DMS3TV Thank you mate for the reply. Yes, I’m just starting my journey down the rabbit hole and until I get my hands on my purchased HD560s and Sundara from your video tips. I guess I can’t fully understand all the terminologies used in yours and all of your brethren within the audiophile reviewer community. I guess I will have to just make the choice and go from there…..
Thank you once again for your reply and wonderful in-depth channel.
Oh, by the way I would love if one day you would add a video relating to the best differing budget all rounder headphones that could cater for electric pianos, music and movies. Keep up the wonderful work….Cheers 🤘🙏🤙😁
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I just got the Rode and love it for my purpose. I play guitar through high end effects and headphones quite a bit and the warmer treble and more forward mids are much better for monitoring guitar. The K371 are better for music as they’re a little more exciting but more harsh with guitar. Oh and I need closed backs for this purpose otherwise I’m hearing guitar strings and room reflections and my dehumidifier and furnace etc.
Is there a significant diffrence between the k371 and k361?
@@i.t9390 ••• Z Reviews says the k361 is the best sounding of the two, despite it being the cheaper one.
Would the K361 be harsh for guitar playing too or better than the Rode NTH 100? Cheers
As with all headphone coverage I will be listening to this through my Koss KSC75.
Would've preferred the k361 but mini xlr was a dealbreaker for me. Can't connect an inline mic for calls.
Good comparison! I like my 361. But I don’t use it much now that I have Sennheiser Momentum 3
How do they compare I'm buying my first Sennheiser product the Sennheiser Momentum 4 when they come out
@@alexsmith1207 Don’t know about M4, but M3 sounds similar to K361, but better
high quality video
Equalizing matters much more than an expensive headphone. As long as one has a decent midrange headphone (and sometimes even budget headphone like these) they can change the sound and improve it greatly. Even on Tidal and Qobuzz, hi res music on my midrange headphones can sound like rubbish on many songs. On spotify free with equalizing they sound fantastic. But the lack of skipping ruins the experience. UA-cam free is just a bad experience overall. Wondering if you would know if there is an equalizer one can use for streaming on Tidal Free or Amazon Prime Free music on ios phone? UA-cam doesn't operate in the background well on a phone. It's a hassle. And Spotify free doesn't skip songs. The problem with Tidal and Amazon on ios and iphone is the challenge of how to equalize them.
The Rode Twist Lock breaks after 3 Months. Take the inlay out and it sounds fine.
what's the first song that plays in the background after the intro
NOTHING : Subterfuge
Thoughts on the K612 Pro? That used to be considered a budget king but I don’t see it mentioned too much lately. Crinacle loves them.
I have 612 pro and 361 and 612 is much airier, neutral and natural sounding, but upper mids may be too hot for some. I've just added felt pieces in front of the drivers and they're just perfect. And they're way mor comfortable than 361, but they're open back and leak a lot of sound.
Nice shirt
Im from Argentina and here the prices of everything are like 20 times more expensive than the rest of the world (taxes, shipping, import restrictions, etc). Since i saw your video of the k361 i decided to buy one for myself and the k361bt for my father, both we are audiophiles but we do not have that much budget and we were really surprised. The truth is that this headset is a great option for countries like mine haha, really afordable compared to many of the same price (or higher) with more advertising. Thanks for sharing your knowledge DMS!
I know it's difficult or almost impossible but consider leaving the country?
@@gigihanmandarin My brother in Christ what kind of suggestion is that
Man, if only K361 (and its brother, K371) have Beyerdynamic's build quality, it would've been a pair of killer headphones.
& comfort, that would be great.
@@DMS3TV Soo if folding isn't an issue for me, do I just miss both of these and pick up my third pair of beyerdynamics? Dt770's?
I heard that you can't wear glasses with the k361 because it won't seal properly with them on, is this true? I chose the dt770s instead because of this.
It does change the timbre and diffusion of the sound when wearing glasses. It becomes problematic, because when the k361 is fully sealed, the presentation of the sound is a bit "pulled back" from the ears(fyi this doesn't affect the soundstage, it's just the presentation). So when you pull that back even further with glasses frames, you get weird diffusion. Technically speaking, many headphones will do this with glasses, but some are worse than others.
are these the two best budget headphones on the market rn?
I would not recommend the NTH-100 until Rode release a new iteration! I'm so sour about the NTH-100. The poorly designed locking adjustment is a huge design fault and broke after a month. Now I must deal with the poor outsourced Rode warranty system in my country (United Kingdom)
NTA-100 is well thought out but as customers we are Rode's beta testers
That’s a shame
love the sound of the Rode but the lock broke on both sides in a week. I have 6 quick ties holding it together, looks like shit but it works. Don't have deep pockets so had to fix this bad design. Everything on the rode is build solid except the lock is just build with crap plastic and it just brittle.
@@1anglen1 I’ll pin a comment about this. I haven’t had problems with mine but it’s important to know these issues are happening
I'm so sad that I have problems to get a good seal on the right cup of my K361 😭
Btw DMS, have you tried Focal Listen Professional? Seems very cheap for being a Focal headphone.
I've never understood people folding headphones, I take my DT177X GO headphones everywhere and they're bulky and don't fold and it's never been a problem.
If I need to stow them then I'll detach the cable and put them in my rucksack.
So as a owner of a k361 they sound meh out of box but as they burned in they kept getting better
You've got shakers 🤣♥️
The NTH-100 is perfect for tracking. Raw audio tracks often have a lot of sibilence... the warmth is perfect for tracking, not for editing... but good to know... I've been interested in the k361 or k371...
Frequency Response comparison graph is kinda hard to read. Axis labels are small and fuzzy, and the use of red and green is not ideal for folks with colorblindness. The lines themselves are a little thin and thus hard to see, especially against a black background, and especially if the monitor you're using isn't at full brightness or is viewed in a bright room. Just a thought for next time. Valuable comparison otherwise!
AKG k361 is the biggest disappointment for me i liked the sound, but after 2 days the right hinge loosened significantly, do you think it’s worth another try?
at the beginning I had a bad unit. This one has lasted me about a year so far though without problems. Their customer support is decent.
@@DMS3TV do you get it from the company it self or Amazon?
@@aight3565 I bought it on Amazon. If it’s in 30 days they have a good return policy. Otherwise it’s easy to contact support at AKG
@@DMS3TV that’s useful information, thanks for caring to reply…
@Aight you can open the inner cover of the hinge and tighten the hidden screw.
I'm really glad that Eddie Redmayne and iDubbzzz other brother is here to help us with the audio things.
Most revwiers say Rode is flat which is what keeps me from buying them
but here it is said that they are colored
should I buy rode if I only going to use to for music and tv shows
Objectively they're colored. The data supports it. All depends on your sound preferences if you want to use it though.
Consider Phillips X3？ Reviews are bad when they are 350 usd, but now they are 164 on amazon us last time I checked.
I currently have a sennheiser 599 SE for maybe 3 years and in the past i had a logitech 430, logitech 633 Arthemis, and a GameCom 780. I'd like to find some headphone that could provide as good spacial perception/awareness (ability of accurately localize footsteps and like been able to know something flew over me from the back to front / right in game with planes ...) as those previous logitech were able to do, but also with better base which i'd like to enjoy some time (not my most important criteria ). And if possible, i'd like a headphone that is more durable than my previous logitech, if possible with a removable cable... (my budget would be around 300$, i can go higher but i'd like under 300$)
HiFiMan HE400SE with Harman-compliant EQ. The trick to getting the sound you want without sacrificing sound quality is by taking an already great headphone, and just tuning it to your preference. That, plus a DAC/Amp would be good. Otherwise you may be looking at the Sundara if we cut DAC/Amps out of the equation. Although, they are important IMO. Especially with EQ, because you need all of the gain you can get.
@@sptauto first, thx a lot for taking the time to help me! I'm gonna think about it and look for a possible Dac/Amps too just in case.... but i'm very interrested since i never tried a planar headphone.
@@sptauto I bought the Sundara + Atom Dac/Amp stack
@@gabdestro Nice, man! That sounds like a great setup. What do you think of it so far? My apologies, I think my previous reply was spam-filtered because I mentioned another platform.
@@sptauto What software should i use to modify my EQ? (what i do like at the moment from the Sundara is the confort and it look like a durable headphone, sound is nice, but in order to judge it's sound in a fair way, i need to use it in more context to understand well it's strenght also i haven't play with any EQ yet, i was using the gigabyte software that work with my motherboard, but since i'm not plug in the back of my pc it's not usable... I A did try the DAC / Amp with my sennheiser 599 se and it does sound better in some situation (with my senn 599 i was using Dts sound unbound + a custom EQ, it was quite nice, it was what was producing the best result in most use case for me))
soundwise why do you prefer k361 to k371?
I prefer the K361, but thats mostly because the 371's bass can be too much at times.
@@DMS3TV If you EQ the bass of the 371 down a bit to a level comparable with that of the 361, do you find any differences in sound QUALITY between the two?
Are you wearing an undershirt from the 1800s?
Yeah, the Jarl banished me from whiterun, now I have to grow beets to feed my family for the winter.
@@DMS3TV well if you would have stuck it out with the mages in winterhold you wouldn't have been in such a predicament, but noooooooooo
@@davidmeyer1054 after that whole deal with the archmage and the eye of magnus I don’t think they want me around.
DMS is invited to the carne asada
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Enjoying my NTH-100 tremendously. Amazing value. Perfect balance between Neutral and warm. Makes neutral sound less boring! Highly recommended.
DMS label your graphs pls.
HD280 Pro would be my recommendation over both especially with EQ.
There's a few videos and comments on Amazon reviews about the Rode having a vulnerable spot that breaks sometimes a few weeks after they buy it. I don't know how big the problem is but I would like more people to investigate it
I'm 30 and can't get passed your age restriction, I guess I'll watch the budget showdown instead🤘
Can you review the Sigva SV021 against these one day?
I sent it back to Sivga, didn't think it was worth making a video on.
@@DMS3TV Oh damn, I thought it was decent, but guess not.
@@hartyewh1 10dB subbass emphasis, a strange hole in the midrange, and treble peaks. Crinacle had a set and couldn't even be bothered to rank or review it either.
@@sptauto I've somehow missed this. I wonder where I heard that they'd be good.
The Rode headset being marketed for streams and gamers must be industry leading lol
You can just bundle it with the mics and make it look like a great deal
@@circattle yeah I remember that crinicle video xD
Could have been a 3 way with the SRH-840A.
Eh, I didn’t want to make a 2nd video talking about how bad the 840A is lol
@@DMS3TV Wow, thanks saved me a few quid, as I was gonna get them to retire my old 840s.
Ohh that looks interesting lemme check out that Ro- (sees $200 price tag in canada) welp back to using my takstar pro 82! 😭
Oh yeah Canada pricing hurts
Takstar Pro82 has similar tuning, you're not missing out. Would be better off checking out something like the HiFiMan HE400SE.
Isn't K371 a more comparable competition? RRP is $150 for both.
Most people I know prefer the K361 over the K371
Bro the K361's aren't good. I have the takstars that are about half the price and they are way better. Sure they are flat and nuetral but not only do they just sound muddy or unresolving in the midrange, the cups flatten so quickly that my ears ended up touching the drivers after about 3 months of use.
On the rode again
I didn't expect this considering how rave the reviews were for rode.
It's still a good headphone imo. I bought it and use it pretty often when i'm working.
@@DMS3TV I see. I use koss pro4s in my home studio and they sound great (very flat lol). Would love to see your take on them.
@@tweakerofknobs not quite as flat 😅 but well built and comfortable with good customer service. They have a bump in the mid-bass and a noteworthy dip at 250hz. I would keep those 2 in mind when mixing.
@@DMS3TV thanks!
Honestly all the positive hype around that headphone made me skeptical that the company is just really good at earned media! Sometimes too much hype is a red flag
Mmx 300 review
Zeos already did that years ago, and it's old news. Unless you're looking for a closed-back bass canon with a non-detachable cable, and a goofy gaming headset mic... not recommended. Especially for the price.
I have the mmx 300, using the stock pads the bass sounds stellar to me. Maybe it depends what it's plugged into. The treble can get a bit sparkly at times but definitely not a deal breaker. A perfect example of too much bass for me were the 1more over ears. Every time I put them on the bass absolutely destroyed the mix of the music.
I actually did a review on the beyers, I can send you a link to it if you're interested.
you really need to work on how you display your fr graphs
I plan to, just one of those things that’s been on the back burner
@@DMS3TV fair enough. perhaps adding a key / labels would be a quick and easy start?
And the Answer is: Sennheiser HD560s... right?
Always
@@DMS3TV :)
K371 is better than both imo
ATH M50X... Talk about plasticky, cranky, squeaky...!!!
SPEAKER WALLLLLLLLL
Half of it is getting installed today
YOOOOOOOOO. I cant wait to watch the video
wtf are you wearin dms
Not to be a hater, but I guess you can't call this a showdown if you only have 2 Headphones against each other, just a thought!
Not much else competition in the price range ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ think of it like a boxing match haha
@@DMS3TV Would you consider the dt770s a competitor? Also where would you rank them on your Under 1k USD list?
@@slurmsmckenzie8192 C- tier, and also flawed. Massive subbass emphasis, holes in wacky places, and treble sharpness for daysss! U-shaped tonality.
@@sptauto Hey, I was reading the comments on the video and you seem to understand what you're talking about, what do you think of sennheiser's options like the hd25, hd26, HD 280?
@@joelstoppa They're not bad per-se, I just think they're massively overpriced in todays climate. Especially the on-ears (i.e. HD25, HD26). I think Sennheiser's best offering for a reasonable price is something like the HD560S. A lot of people also swear by the HD6XX, but I'm personally not a fan of the darker tonality and lackluster technical ability (narrow staging, three-blob imaging, etc.).
I am noticing a trend though, and that's seemingly closed-back. You hit diminishing returns at about $100-$150 for those. I'd recommend a Takstar Pro 82, Shure SRH440A, or Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro.
NTH-100 is a horrible sounding headphone... Why are you scared to criticise it? +4dB of gain in the 400-500Hz region is the definition of muddy.
Talking over porn music makes it hard for me to understand what you are saying. Why talk over music?