Andrew Scheps Vocal Mixing Trick | Get Your Vocals To Cut Through The Mix

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  • Опубліковано 24 лип 2019
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    In this video I go over one of Andrew Scheps parallel vocal mixing processes using 3rd party plugins, then teach you to achieve the same effect with stock plugins. This technique will help your vocals cut through even the densest of mixes.
    Song - Jay Clifford - "Paralyze"
    Multitracks from Produce Like a Pro. Check out www.producelikeapro.com
    Explanation - 1:03
    Raw Mix - 3:09
    Scheps Process with 3rd Party Plugins - 3:49
    Scheps Process with Stock Plugins - 6:07
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  • @Seanrayamusic
    @Seanrayamusic 4 роки тому +211

    Great tip - but just to clarify, the compressor is compressing the whole signal still but just reacting to the information above 1khz.

    • @GreenLightSound
      @GreenLightSound  4 роки тому +35

      Right. I may have misspoke in the video. Thanks for the clarification.

    • @birdisthezv
      @birdisthezv 4 роки тому +88

      It's levioooosaa not levio-saa

    • @Tazmanian_Ninja
      @Tazmanian_Ninja 3 роки тому +11

      Indeed. So it's more a case of the higher frequencies triggering the compressor more than the lows. It's like a very low-tech / basic de-esser, though not a very transparent nor a particularly effective one.
      The that little knob/pot on the LA-2A is somewhat like a tilt-eq. But it has a peculiar frequency curve, and it may even be level-dependent. I know that from a very obsessive plugin analysis session I did a while back.
      Bonus-fact: Chris Lord-Alge does sorta the same. He boosts the highs on vocals before compression, for that exact de-essing effect.

    • @loredanamassini3656
      @loredanamassini3656 3 роки тому

      @@Tazmanian_Ninjahappenin because there too much highs and the compressor over react ?

    • @siriusfun
      @siriusfun 3 роки тому +3

      The irony in your comment is delicious. lol
      It is only compressing ("reacting" as the OP wrote) the high end. The fact that it's not a sidechain is irrelevant.

  • @artie
    @artie 8 місяців тому +8

    This brought back the warmth that I was trying to get to along with that break through on my mixes. I had trouble with high end and this actually solved that issue for me. Thank you!

  • @kronk358
    @kronk358 3 роки тому +27

    Its crazy that as you bring up that second channel of the same vocal you can hear it better. Who would have thought that more volume would make it easier to hear over the rest of the music? Thats some magic right there.

    • @GreenLightSound
      @GreenLightSound  3 роки тому +5

      You mean like nearly every other parallel process?

    • @morbidmanmusic
      @morbidmanmusic 3 роки тому +9

      @@GreenLightSound not when you actually compensate for that volume gain beyond the effect. ....
      come on. He is right. take it.

    • @matthewhaddad2897
      @matthewhaddad2897 3 роки тому +5

      @@GreenLightSound You know you're supposed to compensate for that, right?

    • @chrisl.6158
      @chrisl.6158 3 роки тому +1

      my thoughts exactly.

    • @hinder10709
      @hinder10709 6 місяців тому

      This guy gets it.

  • @conanliquid
    @conanliquid 4 роки тому +10

    Nice video and well explained. I have seen Andrew apply this technique on other sources as well as vocals. It’s very old school and I love it. Schepps is a legend.

    • @MrRigazzi
      @MrRigazzi Рік тому

      where i wanna see him do it

  • @MukeshRathore
    @MukeshRathore 10 місяців тому +1

    It really makes a difference! Thank you for sharing.

  • @lunarlabaudio
    @lunarlabaudio 3 роки тому +6

    I just found your channel today and I’ve watched like 5 videos. Love the short, straightforward demos and explanations. Keep it up. Subscribed!

  • @hakangurdol
    @hakangurdol Рік тому +2

    Used this trick, it's the best deal for your artist, thank you so much, i appreciate you, this was the most common problem for not comfortable hearing the artist in the mix, after your couse tip videos i start look much more diffrent to the mix stage.

  • @mikaelsehlin
    @mikaelsehlin 3 місяці тому +1

    These techniques are insane.. Thank you so much for extremely valuable content 👌

  • @MikeLuke
    @MikeLuke 4 роки тому +4

    Thanks for this, that's a great technique. Well explained.

  • @kcsounds
    @kcsounds 4 роки тому +4

    Nice tip. Thanks for sharing

  • @CarlosGunX
    @CarlosGunX 4 роки тому +172

    Pro tip: On the Pultec EQP-1A, the bandwidth control affects the "hi boost" control, NOT the "low band"....

    • @LetMeDieLord
      @LetMeDieLord 4 роки тому +4

      I just wanted to write that :D

    • @rafalvarezsevilla
      @rafalvarezsevilla 3 роки тому +21

      Pro Tip: Read Manuals =D

    • @Tazmanian_Ninja
      @Tazmanian_Ninja 3 роки тому +27

      Yes. It's an unfortunate position they did of that bandwidth control, when they made the Pully. Confusion-wise akin to the LA-2A's position of the output gain on the left, leading many to think it controls the input gain.
      And then there's the 1176, with its counterclockwise attack and release controls 😅

    • @franciscomoralesmusic
      @franciscomoralesmusic 3 роки тому +2

      Absolutly! I see many people making and commenting the same mistake ;}

    • @analogdreamertheproducer4850
      @analogdreamertheproducer4850 3 роки тому +10

      I can’t believe that ppl call them self engineers snd copy past setting eq without even knowing how they work..

  • @keyscook
    @keyscook Рік тому +1

    Very cool... I've always used a multi-band compressor - excited to give this technique a test, always love experimenting with new techniques. Thanks & Cheers from Seattle!

  • @draculea3669
    @draculea3669 10 місяців тому +1

    wow that help me a lot in my mix! you are the man!!

  • @PeterBachmayer-ProDrummer
    @PeterBachmayer-ProDrummer 3 роки тому +1

    This is so cool! Thanx for sharing!

  • @sidmazzei
    @sidmazzei 3 роки тому +1

    amazing trick. thank you

  • @earlludwig3614
    @earlludwig3614 Рік тому

    Very cool vocal treatment!

  • @alvagoldbook2
    @alvagoldbook2 3 роки тому +3

    I’ve always had so much trouble mixing vocals. Thanks so much for this tip

  • @juanreales986
    @juanreales986 4 роки тому +2

    This is so good !

  • @sixstring3639
    @sixstring3639 3 роки тому +1

    Suddenly recording life just got easier. Thanx.

  • @musician1971a
    @musician1971a 3 роки тому +11

    Thank you for this! It works really really well on the kind of music I usually mix and it's so fast! The great thing is that Studio One has both these devices inside the stock Fat Channel plug-in, including the frequency knob on the LA-2A emulation. For the adding of harmonics you need 3rd party though, but with the stock ones it already works really well!

    • @GreenLightSound
      @GreenLightSound  3 роки тому +2

      You're welcome! Nice Fat Channel tip - it's a great tool.

  • @namas3544
    @namas3544 3 роки тому +1

    Amazing stuff man !!!

  • @bradferguson9840
    @bradferguson9840 4 роки тому +1

    More great content! Thank you.

  • @sonicpalacevideos
    @sonicpalacevideos 7 місяців тому

    Looks good, I'm gonna try it!

  • @MrMatthewKerr
    @MrMatthewKerr 3 роки тому +33

    This has worked perfectly on the mix i'm working on. Holy balls. What a neat trick. Thanks very much for sharing and replying to everyones questions in the comments. AND WHAT TIMING to find this video now just when i needed it . . . i'm proud of you, I'm proud of myself, proud of Andrew Scheps.

    • @GreenLightSound
      @GreenLightSound  3 роки тому +3

      Glad to help, and glad that the timing worked out for you!

    • @scrummyvision
      @scrummyvision 2 роки тому +1

      it's such a cool technique. glad it helped you out so much, i'm going to be looking for a chance to use it, especially since i just got the waves LA2A

    • @takinthebox
      @takinthebox Рік тому +1

      I'm saying dude. This shit just changed the game

    • @johnisrael5183
      @johnisrael5183 Рік тому

      m using a
      Waves NS1 Mono
      API 560 Vocal Preset
      R Dessor Dave P setting against Harshness
      and Last in my Vocal Change....
      I've got the VLA 3A by Black Rooster (Pretty Much the BEST) Vocal and Bass Guitar Plugin online....)
      Going into my UAD 476 Volt with 48+ Phantom, 1176 Compressor and Vintage Effect in ...
      Honest sounds like I'm singing into an analog Mixer with Gate and a UAD Textronic LA2A...all in the Box on the Computer
      Once again....I do not claim to know more than Andrew Scheps...but....his Idea might work better if your Using a $3000 interface with a $2000 LA2A comp.....so in the Box with a great vocal interface like Volt....trust my vocal chain sounds warmer, clearer and is cutting through my mix sharper and smoother than your suggestion above...no offense
      I just went into my Vocal Closet Set up and shot your Idea against mine...I won....LOL ....the Black Rooster VLA 3A, API 560 EQ and Volt 476 UAD Interface for vocals...three must...if you want to compete with the $200,000 studios.....as far as vocals....

  •  4 роки тому +2

    What a trick!, great video, thank you.

  • @gidiyongidi17
    @gidiyongidi17 3 роки тому +2

    It's only am searched this kind of trick 💓after some years

  • @burningmall9277
    @burningmall9277 4 роки тому +23

    works! althought the bandwidth knob on a pultec works in conjunction with the hight freq boost, not the low end.

  • @orphic-trench
    @orphic-trench 4 роки тому +2

    Absolutely tremendous trick. Thank you so much!!!!!

  • @assshakerstudios549
    @assshakerstudios549 4 роки тому +6

    Gotta try this, have not find that before. Something new... Yay.. Love these little tricks. This is perfect! And I'm super impressed with the results. Wow! I would've remixed it to get that vocal to sit better, and that would've taken a day. This solved that in a minute! Genius!

    • @GreenLightSound
      @GreenLightSound  4 роки тому +1

      Glad to help!

    • @johnisrael5183
      @johnisrael5183 Рік тому

      m using a
      Waves NS1 Mono
      API 560 Vocal Preset
      R Dessor Dave P setting against Harshness
      and Last in my Vocal Change....
      I've got the VLA 3A by Black Rooster (Pretty Much the BEST) Vocal and Bass Guitar Plugin online....)
      Going into my UAD 476 Volt with 48+ Phantom, 1176 Compressor and Vintage Effect in ...
      Honest sounds like I'm singing into an analog Mixer with Gate and a UAD Textronic LA2A...all in the Box on the Computer
      Once again....I do not claim to know more than Andrew Scheps...but....his Idea might work better if your Using a $3000 interface with a $2000 LA2A comp.....so in the Box with a great vocal interface like Volt....trust my vocal chain sounds warmer, clearer and is cutting through my mix sharper and smoother than your suggestion above...no offense
      I just went into my Vocal Closet Set up and shot your Idea against mine...I won....LOL ....the Black Rooster VLA 3A, API 560 EQ and Volt 476 UAD Interface for vocals...three must...if you want to compete with the $200,000 studios.....as far as vocals....

  • @Bizarrien
    @Bizarrien 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you so much man this made a HUGE difference in how my vocals cut through the mix

  • @wisetree6651
    @wisetree6651 Рік тому

    That's so helpful, way improved my vocal mixing output quality. Thank you so oooo much 👍👍👍

  • @jdutra
    @jdutra 4 роки тому +1

    wow, it's like reacting to magic happening on 3:50. Fantastic video, thanks for sharing!

  • @whale_talk
    @whale_talk 2 роки тому

    Great explanation

  • @ProducerVibes
    @ProducerVibes 3 роки тому

    Amazing trick! Thank you!

  • @juliusebola9389
    @juliusebola9389 3 роки тому +1

    This is awesome. Very useful.

    • @johnisrael5183
      @johnisrael5183 Рік тому

      m using a
      Waves NS1 Mono
      API 560 Vocal Preset
      R Dessor Dave P setting against Harshness
      and Last in my Vocal Change....
      I've got the VLA 3A by Black Rooster (Pretty Much the BEST) Vocal and Bass Guitar Plugin online....)
      Going into my UAD 476 Volt with 48+ Phantom, 1176 Compressor and Vintage Effect in ...
      Honest sounds like I'm singing into an analog Mixer with Gate and a UAD Textronic LA2A...all in the Box on the Computer
      Once again....I do not claim to know more than Andrew Scheps...but....his Idea might work better if your Using a $3000 interface with a $2000 LA2A comp.....so in the Box with a great vocal interface like Volt....trust my vocal chain sounds warmer, clearer and is cutting through my mix sharper and smoother than your suggestion above...no offense
      I just went into my Vocal Closet Set up and shot your Idea against mine...I won....LOL ....the Black Rooster VLA 3A, API 560 EQ and Volt 476 UAD Interface for vocals...three must...if you want to compete with the $200,000 studios.....as far as vocals....

  • @philu4621
    @philu4621 3 роки тому

    Wow! Great stuff!

  • @nicolasbarroso
    @nicolasbarroso Рік тому

    Excellent! Thank you!

  • @brywool
    @brywool 3 роки тому

    great tip and I reallly like the tune. Very cool.

  • @boobo3763
    @boobo3763 2 роки тому +1

    Instant freaking sub, my man! Amazing results! Cheers!

  • @davidcottrell1308
    @davidcottrell1308 Рік тому

    very cool...great explanations!!

  • @stupidusername38
    @stupidusername38 4 роки тому

    great tip Joe

  • @oldunclemick
    @oldunclemick 3 роки тому +1

    Good explanation. A nice variation on NY.

  • @ziar3637
    @ziar3637 7 місяців тому

    Wow. Just wow. What a great video. That would have give me millions of headaches with sidechain eq and worse parallel compression but now i know this trick!

  • @jamesperryman6433
    @jamesperryman6433 4 роки тому +1

    Genius. Thanks

  • @lasseyoyo5653
    @lasseyoyo5653 2 роки тому

    great tutorial! thanks

  • @JulianFernandez
    @JulianFernandez 4 роки тому

    good stuff. thanks!

  • @komet1536
    @komet1536 Рік тому

    Real eye-opener for me, this definitely goes to my mixing toolbox. Many thanks.

    • @GreenLightSound
      @GreenLightSound  Рік тому +1

      You're welcome!

    • @johnisrael5183
      @johnisrael5183 Рік тому

      m using a
      Waves NS1 Mono
      API 560 Vocal Preset
      R Dessor Dave P setting against Harshness
      and Last in my Vocal Change....
      I've got the VLA 3A by Black Rooster (Pretty Much the BEST) Vocal and Bass Guitar Plugin online....)
      Going into my UAD 476 Volt with 48+ Phantom, 1176 Compressor and Vintage Effect in ...
      Honest sounds like I'm singing into an analog Mixer with Gate and a UAD Textronic LA2A...all in the Box on the Computer
      Once again....I do not claim to know more than Andrew Scheps...but....his Idea might work better if your Using a $3000 interface with a $2000 LA2A comp.....so in the Box with a great vocal interface like Volt....trust my vocal chain sounds warmer, clearer and is cutting through my mix sharper and smoother than your suggestion above...no offense
      I just went into my Vocal Closet Set up and shot your Idea against mine...I won....LOL ....the Black Rooster VLA 3A, API 560 EQ and Volt 476 UAD Interface for vocals...three must...if you want to compete with the $200,000 studios.....as far as vocals....

    • @sin_phany_tv
      @sin_phany_tv Рік тому

      Hey how are you, I was wondering if you could help me out, the thing is that I am a blind producer not completely and can’t follow along, I use logic, and of course ProTools I’m guessing he is using this on a bus regardless if he isn’t I’m wondering if he could create a logic channel strip for me with the settings that he’s done so I could have it ready to go in logic, if you don’t use logic I also ProTools do you think you could create a session with the plug-ins that he is using and just send it to me with the presets already in place and I’ll do the rest it will mean the world thanks

  • @frankzeno
    @frankzeno 4 роки тому

    works great. Great tip

  • @hanisiblini
    @hanisiblini 3 роки тому

    great demonstration

    • @GreenLightSound
      @GreenLightSound  3 роки тому

      Thanks!

    • @johnisrael5183
      @johnisrael5183 Рік тому

      m using a
      Waves NS1 Mono
      API 560 Vocal Preset
      R Dessor Dave P setting against Harshness
      and Last in my Vocal Change....
      I've got the VLA 3A by Black Rooster (Pretty Much the BEST) Vocal and Bass Guitar Plugin online....)
      Going into my UAD 476 Volt with 48+ Phantom, 1176 Compressor and Vintage Effect in ...
      Honest sounds like I'm singing into an analog Mixer with Gate and a UAD Textronic LA2A...all in the Box on the Computer
      Once again....I do not claim to know more than Andrew Scheps...but....his Idea might work better if your Using a $3000 interface with a $2000 LA2A comp.....so in the Box with a great vocal interface like Volt....trust my vocal chain sounds warmer, clearer and is cutting through my mix sharper and smoother than your suggestion above...no offense
      I just went into my Vocal Closet Set up and shot your Idea against mine...I won....LOL ....the Black Rooster VLA 3A, API 560 EQ and Volt 476 UAD Interface for vocals...three must...if you want to compete with the $200,000 studios.....as far as vocals....

  • @davidasher22
    @davidasher22 3 роки тому

    Great info!

  • @canaan_perry
    @canaan_perry 3 роки тому +2

    Yeah -- really brings on a big 'FM radio vibe' when you dial the processing into the mix.

  • @78psuedo
    @78psuedo 2 роки тому

    Nice break-down! Actually kinda dig the sound of the stock plug-ins more.

  • @tjmitch57
    @tjmitch57 6 місяців тому

    Great information btw I listen to quite a number of these tutorials & Jeff song 'paralyzed' by far my favorite will look this songwriter/preformer up.

  • @eastboundkieb
    @eastboundkieb 2 роки тому

    Good tips I enjoyed the video ty

  • @MartinLang1625
    @MartinLang1625 3 роки тому

    Excellent!

  • @iavingeorge9575
    @iavingeorge9575 Рік тому

    i tried this in the drum group too works perfect

  • @joyn7675
    @joyn7675 8 місяців тому

    super helfpul video thank you

  • @TerenceKearns
    @TerenceKearns 2 роки тому

    I just tried this on a mix and it works great. Awesome trick. I just put it on a send and feed it as needed.

    • @johnisrael5183
      @johnisrael5183 Рік тому

      m using a
      Waves NS1 Mono
      API 560 Vocal Preset
      R Dessor Dave P setting against Harshness
      and Last in my Vocal Change....
      I've got the VLA 3A by Black Rooster (Pretty Much the BEST) Vocal and Bass Guitar Plugin online....)
      Going into my UAD 476 Volt with 48+ Phantom, 1176 Compressor and Vintage Effect in ...
      Honest sounds like I'm singing into an analog Mixer with Gate and a UAD Textronic LA2A...all in the Box on the Computer
      Once again....I do not claim to know more than Andrew Scheps...but....his Idea might work better if your Using a $3000 interface with a $2000 LA2A comp.....so in the Box with a great vocal interface like Volt....trust my vocal chain sounds warmer, clearer and is cutting through my mix sharper and smoother than your suggestion above...no offense
      I just went into my Vocal Closet Set up and shot your Idea against mine...I won....LOL ....the Black Rooster VLA 3A, API 560 EQ and Volt 476 UAD Interface for vocals...three must...if you want to compete with the $200,000 studios.....as far as vocals....

  • @JesseQuinn
    @JesseQuinn Рік тому

    Really appreciate this knowledge! Trying to use my Beta58 best I can.

  • @joeloesch3328
    @joeloesch3328 3 роки тому

    Thank you. Great detail

  • @TheeRocker
    @TheeRocker 2 роки тому +1

    The pristine Presonus PulTec - The stock EQ and Compressor are very clean and transparent.

  • @freekmusbach8722
    @freekmusbach8722 3 роки тому

    nice one, thanks!

  • @JesseQuinn
    @JesseQuinn Рік тому

    Cool late 90s style song!

  • @Bthelick
    @Bthelick 3 роки тому +20

    If you don't compensate the dry level when adding any copy in parallel, altered or otherwise, is gonna add volume. It's the same as adding nearly 6db to the fader (doubling a signal), the comparison is moot as its always gonna sound louder / better or 'cut more' as you say.

    • @dawmix
      @dawmix 2 роки тому +1

      I agree. Though when I tried this I am watching my levels and not seeing a visible increase in vocal or overall volume but I understand how I have to be aware. Still, it does seem to sharpen my vocals, even them out and help them sit in the mix, more legible.

    • @slayabouts
      @slayabouts 2 роки тому +1

      @@dawmix are you watching the levels on a vocal bus that the parallel channel is also being sent? There’s no way you could increase the level of a parallel track and it not essentially be adding gain to the overall signal.
      I really think this trick works because it’s just adding more volume to the vocals. I’d be interested to see if there was a way to do this inside of single plugin with a mix knob that you could throw on the main vocal and see if it actually works

    • @dawmix
      @dawmix 2 роки тому +1

      @@slayabouts this discussion is important. Buses are necessary for various reasons but add gain into the mix which is seductive. A fair thing to say?
      If the fx is in the bus then the more volume on the bus the more fx. But the you have to lessen the track volume to compensate. And the there is gain staging so once that is set then bus and track volumes must be worked until volume/effect balance works with the rest of the tracks. This is how I interpret it.

    • @dawmix
      @dawmix 2 роки тому

      @@slayabouts thank you for your reply. Very much appreciated.

    • @MrBluesmanJunior
      @MrBluesmanJunior 2 роки тому +1

      I have to agree. I've been waiting until the end of the video to find out what the "trick" is - when it's just essentially adding volume and a bit of processing to the vocal. I'm not saying that adding volume alone would have the same result, I'm sure the EQ/compression step makes a difference, but mostly it's adding volume - which you can clearly hear and see when he starts riding the fader. The difference in volume is huge.

  • @petervad
    @petervad 3 роки тому +5

    Great vid, thanks. Would have been great to also have heard the processed vocal signal by itself in order to gain better understanding as to why it makes such a difference to the final mix. Cheers.

    • @johnisrael5183
      @johnisrael5183 Рік тому

      m using a
      Waves NS1 Mono
      API 560 Vocal Preset
      R Dessor Dave P setting against Harshness
      and Last in my Vocal Change....
      I've got the VLA 3A by Black Rooster (Pretty Much the BEST) Vocal and Bass Guitar Plugin online....)
      Going into my UAD 476 Volt with 48+ Phantom, 1176 Compressor and Vintage Effect in ...
      Honest sounds like I'm singing into an analog Mixer with Gate and a UAD Textronic LA2A...all in the Box on the Computer
      Once again....I do not claim to know more than Andrew Scheps...but....his Idea might work better if your Using a $3000 interface with a $2000 LA2A comp.....so in the Box with a great vocal interface like Volt....trust my vocal chain sounds warmer, clearer and is cutting through my mix sharper and smoother than your suggestion above...no offense
      I just went into my Vocal Closet Set up and shot your Idea against mine...I won....LOL ....the Black Rooster VLA 3A, API 560 EQ and Volt 476 UAD Interface for vocals...three must...if you want to compete with the $200,000 studios.....as far as vocals....

  • @ArmaanSabharwalbhakti
    @ArmaanSabharwalbhakti Рік тому

    its magic
    thank you soo much

  • @cipsleten505583789
    @cipsleten505583789 Рік тому

    I am getting startled by how excited I'm starting to be about these nob-turning videos hahaha

  • @Itsburgaboy
    @Itsburgaboy 4 роки тому

    Sounds great (y)

  • @boyreporter
    @boyreporter 3 роки тому

    Just excellent

    • @johnisrael5183
      @johnisrael5183 Рік тому

      m using a
      Waves NS1 Mono
      API 560 Vocal Preset
      R Dessor Dave P setting against Harshness
      and Last in my Vocal Change....
      I've got the VLA 3A by Black Rooster (Pretty Much the BEST) Vocal and Bass Guitar Plugin online....)
      Going into my UAD 476 Volt with 48+ Phantom, 1176 Compressor and Vintage Effect in ...
      Honest sounds like I'm singing into an analog Mixer with Gate and a UAD Textronic LA2A...all in the Box on the Computer
      Once again....I do not claim to know more than Andrew Scheps...but....his Idea might work better if your Using a $3000 interface with a $2000 LA2A comp.....so in the Box with a great vocal interface like Volt....trust my vocal chain sounds warmer, clearer and is cutting through my mix sharper and smoother than your suggestion above...no offense
      I just went into my Vocal Closet Set up and shot your Idea against mine...I won....LOL ....the Black Rooster VLA 3A, API 560 EQ and Volt 476 UAD Interface for vocals...three must...if you want to compete with the $200,000 studios.....as far as vocals....

  • @oldschooljohnny
    @oldschooljohnny 2 роки тому

    I just bought the waves plugins and was totally confused by the layout. Thanks for simplifying things!

    • @GreenLightSound
      @GreenLightSound  2 роки тому

      You're welcome!

    • @matthues6188
      @matthues6188 2 роки тому

      I'd reccomend you read the manual too. There are some mistakes in the video.

    • @johnisrael5183
      @johnisrael5183 Рік тому

      m using a
      Waves NS1 Mono
      API 560 Vocal Preset
      R Dessor Dave P setting against Harshness
      and Last in my Vocal Change....
      I've got the VLA 3A by Black Rooster (Pretty Much the BEST) Vocal and Bass Guitar Plugin online....)
      Going into my UAD 476 Volt with 48+ Phantom, 1176 Compressor and Vintage Effect in ...
      Honest sounds like I'm singing into an analog Mixer with Gate and a UAD Textronic LA2A...all in the Box on the Computer
      Once again....I do not claim to know more than Andrew Scheps...but....his Idea might work better if your Using a $3000 interface with a $2000 LA2A comp.....so in the Box with a great vocal interface like Volt....trust my vocal chain sounds warmer, clearer and is cutting through my mix sharper and smoother than your suggestion above...no offense
      I just went into my Vocal Closet Set up and shot your Idea against mine...I won....LOL ....the Black Rooster VLA 3A, API 560 EQ and Volt 476 UAD Interface for vocals...three must...if you want to compete with the $200,000 studios.....as far as vocals....

  • @BlayzeDeville
    @BlayzeDeville 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks so much for the tutorial, definitely subscribing because you also use Studio One

  • @sekritskworl-sekrit_studios
    @sekritskworl-sekrit_studios 2 роки тому

    LOVE IT!!! More fixes please!

  • @PeterBatah
    @PeterBatah 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much for sharing your time and Andrew's technique with us. Just so I understand correctly. You are sending the lead vocal to a buss where the plugins reside. Obviously, I am a little late to the party. Oh well, better late than never!

    • @GreenLightSound
      @GreenLightSound  3 роки тому +1

      That's right - a copy of the vocal is sent to a buss or this processing.

  • @trancephile2412
    @trancephile2412 Рік тому

    Amazing

    • @johnisrael5183
      @johnisrael5183 Рік тому

      m using a
      Waves NS1 Mono
      API 560 Vocal Preset
      R Dessor Dave P setting against Harshness
      and Last in my Vocal Change....
      I've got the VLA 3A by Black Rooster (Pretty Much the BEST) Vocal and Bass Guitar Plugin online....)
      Going into my UAD 476 Volt with 48+ Phantom, 1176 Compressor and Vintage Effect in ...
      Honest sounds like I'm singing into an analog Mixer with Gate and a UAD Textronic LA2A...all in the Box on the Computer
      Once again....I do not claim to know more than Andrew Scheps...but....his Idea might work better if your Using a $3000 interface with a $2000 LA2A comp.....so in the Box with a great vocal interface like Volt....trust my vocal chain sounds warmer, clearer and is cutting through my mix sharper and smoother than your suggestion above...no offense
      I just went into my Vocal Closet Set up and shot your Idea against mine...I won....LOL ....the Black Rooster VLA 3A, API 560 EQ and Volt 476 UAD Interface for vocals...three must...if you want to compete with the $200,000 studios.....as far as vocals....

  • @MarcoTrivellato
    @MarcoTrivellato 6 місяців тому

    Thank you for the valuable information. I would like to highlight that the "Bandwidth" control exclusively influences high frequencies, with no impact on the lower frequencies.

  • @SCBeatty1
    @SCBeatty1 2 місяці тому

    I have a mix that's just been killing me because there are stacks of vocals and a lot going on. Problem solved immediately. Even the vocal that was standing alone with one instrument in the beginning. All of the sudden sounds twice as good. Thank you!

  • @Daveglorious
    @Daveglorious 3 роки тому

    Nice track

  • @smwdotcom
    @smwdotcom 6 місяців тому

    Thanks, great info, clean hand to hand process.

  • @cdtv1318
    @cdtv1318 3 роки тому +2

    This was awesome! That dog gone Andrew Scheps is incredible and he loves simplicity and teaches it well.!

  • @natejohnson91
    @natejohnson91 4 роки тому +28

    Pultec example sounds SO much better than "stock" example though! :D

    • @GreenLightSound
      @GreenLightSound  4 роки тому +3

      Agreed, and that's the one I use. But you can get by with the stock plugins if you don't have a decent Pultec emulation.

    • @benjaminmagambo3849
      @benjaminmagambo3849 4 роки тому +1

      I feel like those graphic eq have created a serious phase shift and resulted in some phase issues in the “stock” case

    • @dulla8469
      @dulla8469 4 роки тому

      the pultec boosts and attenuates in a different way than any other eq, its not like any graphic eq,

    • @entity9588
      @entity9588 3 роки тому +1

      Pultec has tube emulation which will result in saturation and he has 2 of them. Saturation helps things cut through the mix also.

    • @AlekVila
      @AlekVila 3 роки тому

      @@entity9588 Yep. I was about to add this comment. If you add experiment with a saturation plug in or two you might get close.

  • @realraven2000
    @realraven2000 4 роки тому

    Super Tip!

  • @rockinzhu7998
    @rockinzhu7998 3 роки тому

    thank you!useful~

  • @ParadNorthProd
    @ParadNorthProd Рік тому +2

    The same effect can be achieved more easily by simply using a multiple band compressor, compressing only the upper-midrange band, and then blending in parallel. This was something he did in HW before multi-band compressors even existed.

    • @boriszhigarev
      @boriszhigarev Рік тому

      you're correct. there's a lot of technical ways to do the same. but pultec & LA-2A are famous for their saturation and "musical color". So, i guess, if you need some extra warm and crisp you'll do this way:)

    • @TomiSimatupang
      @TomiSimatupang Рік тому

      1. Multiband compressing introduces phase shifts and flips (or pre-ringing) at the crossover frequency. The Scheps method comes with different phase issues. 2. LA 2A is a wideband compressor no matter what - making it less reactive to the low end does not mean it doesn't compress it. Similar effect - kind of... but the sound difference is significant enough to try both imho.

    • @ParadNorthProd
      @ParadNorthProd Рік тому

      @@TomiSimatupang You're right. But had multi-band compressors been largely available when this technique was created, I suspect they would have gone that way. This 'trick' is a byproduct of an era where you had to string together 3 expensive boxes to do what he wanted...have a very dense mid-range in the vocal. So we glamorize it because AS uses it, but not because there isn't some other way to do something similar (and potentially faster / less resource intensive.)
      FWIW - I use it sometimes as it's in my template, but it's worthwhile for people to understand what is really going on so they can decide for themselves (and the song) what they should do. :)

    • @TomiSimatupang
      @TomiSimatupang Рік тому

      @@ParadNorthProd Thanks. I agree that it is very old school, but it does sound much better than a multi-band compressor to me. The old school method tends to sound in your face, crisp with a lot of character. I don't care who invented that, it just works :) A friend of mine does the multi-band thing to every vocal and I hate it 80% of the time. I've tried it, used linear band and dynamic eq, too. Especially with non linear phase mb compressors I get weird phasing effects or just a hollow, unnatural mhf or disconnected consonants.. How do you get it to sound nice?

  • @blvkqmusicgroup
    @blvkqmusicgroup 3 роки тому

    Nice.

  • @flashes_of_ramfis
    @flashes_of_ramfis 2 роки тому

    TE AMO!!!! GRACIAS!!!

  • @whisperthiefmusic
    @whisperthiefmusic 3 роки тому +10

    This is pretty much what the "Thrust" setting on the API compressors does I think? Clever side chain stuff.

    • @johnisrael5183
      @johnisrael5183 Рік тому

      m using a
      Waves NS1 Mono
      API 560 Vocal Preset
      R Dessor Dave P setting against Harshness
      and Last in my Vocal Change....
      I've got the VLA 3A by Black Rooster (Pretty Much the BEST) Vocal and Bass Guitar Plugin online....)
      Going into my UAD 476 Volt with 48+ Phantom, 1176 Compressor and Vintage Effect in ...
      Honest sounds like I'm singing into an analog Mixer with Gate and a UAD Textronic LA2A...all in the Box on the Computer
      Once again....I do not claim to know more than Andrew Scheps...but....his Idea might work better if your Using a $3000 interface with a $2000 LA2A comp.....so in the Box with a great vocal interface like Volt....trust my vocal chain sounds warmer, clearer and is cutting through my mix sharper and smoother than your suggestion above...no offense
      I just went into my Vocal Closet Set up and shot your Idea against mine...I won....LOL ....the Black Rooster VLA 3A, API 560 EQ and Volt 476 UAD Interface for vocals...three must...if you want to compete with the $200,000 studios.....as far as vocals....

  • @jkyles1000
    @jkyles1000 3 роки тому +4

    Side note: The song you’re demonstrating these techniques on is fantastic from the little I can hear. Cold chills. Who IS that?

  • @scottfaircloff9530
    @scottfaircloff9530 3 роки тому

    sweet!!

  • @luisvaldg9830
    @luisvaldg9830 2 роки тому

    Muchas gracias

  • @schwanzkopf400
    @schwanzkopf400 3 роки тому +5

    insane trick! I used t just parallel a high freq boost to my vocals but this is 10 times smoother and more elegant

  • @romenpheonixx7005
    @romenpheonixx7005 10 місяців тому

    Wooooooooow🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @elpkhan
    @elpkhan 3 роки тому +2

    A good mic , compression , aural exciter EQ and maybe a de esser . . If you compartmentalize the range of all the instruments In the mix , you will create clarity . Making every instrument as fat as possible causes mud and sound cancellation in a dense mix . Strong left and right panning leaving the vocal in the middle also makes the focus on the voice more apparent . The fewer instruments the fatter (. More overtones )you can make each instrument in the mix

    • @hummarstraful
      @hummarstraful 3 роки тому +1

      Arguably the greatest mixer of all time, CLA disagrees. He doesn't compartmentalize or "carve out" frequencies. I fact he preaches against that. See the Waves Audio video they released a few weeks ago about about "vocal mixing myths."

  • @keegan6298
    @keegan6298 3 роки тому +1

    Hi everybody, this is a good video and I appreciate every lesson online. What I’m looking for is to make a vocal chain using basic cubase stock plug ins. If any one has any tips on where to find a video lesson or maybe you know some tips yourself? I’d be happy to hear from you

  • @billesposito2112
    @billesposito2112 Рік тому +1

    I think the stock set up sounded better. I have both set ups . I use Studio One with an Apollo. I dig Luna also but In my opinion my vocal texture sounds smoother right from the start in Studio One. I love the fact I can drop a mic pre in the unison slot with Console. I tweak the vocal presets in Console and get some killer vocal sounds using my AKG C214 or the Rhode NT -1. I don't find myself using the 7B much anymore. Unless I'm belting. Before I treated my room it was my go to mic. Great video I'm definitely implementing that on something. Thanks

    • @sin_phany_tv
      @sin_phany_tv Рік тому

      Hey what’s up, I was wondering if you can help me out the thing is is that I am a visually impaired producer and can’t follow along in the video, I don’t know if you use logic or ProTools, but do you think you could save the preset in logic so I could import it, or if you could just create a session in ProTools with the plug-ins that he has with the proper settings and then I could do everything from there and just send me the session? It would mean a lot thank you so much hopefully you can help me out

  • @darkonestudio9897
    @darkonestudio9897 3 роки тому

    very helpful, thank you very much for the tip. Immediately brings out the vocal much clearer. Is the effect bus then sent directly to the masterout or back to the vocal bus?

  • @catsven1973
    @catsven1973 3 роки тому

    Wow the best trick I’ve ever learned since 12 years ago (even if I don’t lean on others tricks) !! Thank you that’s great.
    So if I got it .. you send on a different bus on which you apply this process ?!

    • @GreenLightSound
      @GreenLightSound  3 роки тому

      Right, these plugins are on a separate buss from the main vocal channel.

    • @johnisrael5183
      @johnisrael5183 Рік тому

      m using a
      Waves NS1 Mono
      API 560 Vocal Preset
      R Dessor Dave P setting against Harshness
      and Last in my Vocal Change....
      I've got the VLA 3A by Black Rooster (Pretty Much the BEST) Vocal and Bass Guitar Plugin online....)
      Going into my UAD 476 Volt with 48+ Phantom, 1176 Compressor and Vintage Effect in ...
      Honest sounds like I'm singing into an analog Mixer with Gate and a UAD Textronic LA2A...all in the Box on the Computer
      Once again....I do not claim to know more than Andrew Scheps...but....his Idea might work better if your Using a $3000 interface with a $2000 LA2A comp.....so in the Box with a great vocal interface like Volt....trust my vocal chain sounds warmer, clearer and is cutting through my mix sharper and smoother than your suggestion above...no offense
      I just went into my Vocal Closet Set up and shot your Idea against mine...I won....LOL ....the Black Rooster VLA 3A, API 560 EQ and Volt 476 UAD Interface for vocals...three must...if you want to compete with the $200,000 studios.....as far as vocals....

  • @JimSalvito
    @JimSalvito 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the video. I look forward to trying this technique. Are you/Andrew Scheps using the parallel bus before or after your effects (reverb, delay) bus on the vocal?

    • @GreenLightSound
      @GreenLightSound  4 роки тому

      Since the Scheps vocal bus send is separate from the reverb/delay sends it's dry, but you could certainly send a copy of the Scheps effected vocal to reverb/delay if you felt it needed it.

  • @ChrizzeyChreyBeatoli
    @ChrizzeyChreyBeatoli 3 роки тому

    Gems!!!

  • @flbrandstrader
    @flbrandstrader 3 роки тому

    Great vocal mix tip video...do you add reverb before or after the parallel processing chain?

  • @sin_phany_tv
    @sin_phany_tv Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the wonderful video, I wish I could follow along but I’m a blind producer and know a lot about parallel processing, I have all the plug-ins you mention the universal audio I have the legacy, and would love to see if you could send me a channel strip for logic so I can pull it up let me know if you can help me out it would be wonderful to try this at home thanks again