The Frigid Doom | Critical Role: VOX MACHINA | Episode 64
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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2016
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Vox Machina go on a secret mission to the decimated city of Draconia, in the hopes of learning more about the Chroma Conclave. Also, there were some technical difficulties, so apologies for some of the roughness.
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Reminder, DO NOT READ THE COMMENTS - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
Edit: I'm really happy my comment from 6 years ago has helped a lot of people be unspoiled. Only recently started getting notifications about this one and boy did this catch me off guard.
Upvote this forever.
THIS WAS THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE READ SO I AM TRUSTING YOU!!!!!!!!
Commenting to push it in front of the spoilers. Of course, do read the comments after watching the Ep, if you want!
Absolutely, read the comments once you finish watching. Until then, don't spoil yourself.
Also trying to push it to the top trust me you don't want spoilers.
video: [jump cuts]
scanlan: and i SLASH THE DRAGON’S THROAT,
me: oh my god what did i miss
I also want to know what happened
@@Rockitfilm94 nothing, that's the joke :) their feed cut out, so when they came back Sam made a joke to make it seem like we missed something exciting
I love how they talk about disrupting communication before doing that lol
1:44:53 for the latecomers
"Modify Memory is my favorite spells" - Matt not yet meeting Jester
👆🤓 erm actually she played jester in a one shot they did before this
@monsalve776 you know what they mean. Possi ly the hardest play of all time next to arkan stealing the hand of vecna.
I'm glad they gave Tiberius a good send off honestly. It was a nice thing to do to remove him from the world, since Orion was never coming back, while showing he died a hero fighting the dragon and then giving him a temporary, decent burial. It was really sad but definitely something that needed to be done and handled this well.
"I do not want to die who I am. I would like to live long enough to be someone else."
~ Percival Frederickstein von Musel Klossowski de Rolo the III
Emylee Quiroga that quote actually hit me hard
I was waiting for percy to admit he also went to see the raven queen, and that he understands. That would've been a very deep conversation, even deeper.
Taliesin is a marvelous role player!
1:53:10
When I say Cr saved my life
It’s a good thing Scanlan did not lose his memory of the Feyeild, considering that he read a pretty major chunk of his book in it.
I didn't even think about that. Dang that would've suuucked.
The book is magical, so I would assume it would not be “deleted information” in the way memories are. At least it wouldn’t be at a table I was DM’ing.
But then again, I am there to give my players the opportunity to be great heroes, not ruin their fun by giving them stuff that can only be used once a century and have them waste the magic.
the book is magic. its effect wouldnt be erased just because he forgot he read it.
Even if he had, they would've just Greater Restoration-ed him too I'm sure.
I know that’s what I was thinking
*Grog remembers that Tibbs preferred water over ale*
That broke me :')
Same 😭
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Scanlan: I just wanted to improve your life...
Percy: (while hugging him) I know where you sleep and have people who work for me.
😊
And then you realise Percy sleeps in scanlans magic mansion
Gilmore: "I'm gonna need a spa day."
Percy, who's modified memory now believes he just had a spa treatment in the feywild: "Just had one it didn't help."
AND NOBODY NOTICED
I missed this too, thank you for pointing ti out.
Yo, GOOD catch!!!
Talieson is such a legend.
I think he mentions the real spa they had in scanlans mansion just before going too the fairy land as he doesn't remember the last n days after it
Timestamp?
@@quavy5348 52:13
best Percy line ever: "I know where you sleep...and people work for me."
The way he siad it cracked me up even more. It sounded simultaneously tired, happy, desperate and threatening lmao
Timestamp?
@collinsplanet What I love about this post is that people have said that exact same thing about every single player (except for Sam ofc)
Scanlan's reaction was beautiful
59:20
I love the concept of Grog being able to speak Japanese, but to the characters it’s just a gibberish language only he understands
"Slavery it is" might be the hardest I've laughed so far in the series
Vex'Ahlia, Baroness of the Third House of Whitestone, Mistress of the Great Hunt, she who Walks in the Faces of Others.
*Hut
...and don’t you forget it!
She's about equal with Percy's name now. XD
grey hunt
As well as carrier of the Boon of the Bear Spirit, Weilder of Fenthras, and Mother of Trinket.
“He loved you well, Princess.” 😭
“Goodbye old friend. We’ll come back and we’ll fix this. Cus this, is... Poppycock.” 😂😭❤️
Travis' reactions to every story beat are beautiful to watch. He's got the facial expressions of a five year old listening to fairy tales and it's so pleasing.
He really does!
I do not want to die who I am. I want to live long enough to become someone else.
What Percival said there is one of the most incredible sentences I've ever heard and it deserves so much praise.
It's the inverse of "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain"
@@cyrussmith5242 Percy did both by the end. His legacy is both bright and dark. He is an excelent anti hero.
Still not incredible as "Life need things to live" but good enough
1:54:03 Vax: Percy, I've always liked you
(Laura: stifles a giggle)
Percy: I've always liked you, too
(Laura: eyebrow wiggle)
Vax: You are intelligent and charming.
And good in a *tight spot*
(Laura's dirty mind is visible in her smile.)
(Laura covers her face with her hands to hide it.)
wow, didn´t notice while watching
@@Martha-Novalin- In the clip, Vax and Percy are talking while Laura is gigling aside because she is... giving another meaning to their words
PD: If this was a joke about confusing vez and vax, sorry for the r/whooosh
Just rewatched it and had to laugh so hard about this lol
"Tight spots"
I love how she eventually tells Travis why she was laughing
When Vex said, "We're here to right the wrong," I had a sad flashback to the first episode...
"We're here to right wrongs, right lefts, and write comment cards."
All the way back in Kraghammer.
oh.... you are right, didn´t even notice xd
Don't they still have a bunch of gold left to collect in Kraghammer?
@@100blueeyedboy no they got that. Scanlan used suggestion on him to stay true to his end of the deal
@@ttlovepie101 right! Now I remember. I thought it was weird for Vex to leave money unclaimed
"We're here to right wrongs"
My mind "and wrong rights"
"Not all narrative is bright, but it has its purpose." --Matthew Mercer
Liam's face when Scanlan said "poppycock" and the sad elven-lotr esque music at the burial broke me
I just realized, that moment when the dragons were flying by Whitestone, Vax takes Keyleth's side and Vex takes Percy's side. Probably not intentional but works out nicely to each character and their relationships, Vex and Percy: pragmatic; Keyleth and Vax: impulsive but with good intentions.
Vox Machina: Civil War
@@ophiuchus_kin Well then they're fucked, because Pike would pick Percy's side out of the 2, and Grog and Scan would pick wich ever side Pike's on. XD
VM gets drunk whenever they come within 100ft of Gilmore; that man's an enabler.
But those are the best/funniest scenes, hands down XD
That's quite the mixed-use proximity buff
it's heartbreaking seeing everyone's reactions to tibbs. it's yet another reminder that they had orion for two years more than we knew tibbs, and more than a character, they're still morning the loss of a friend that couldn't be in their lives anymore. god bless these people for still having so much love in their hearts even though orion was a pain in the ass.
Watching this years later give massive perspective of this too this was a “bad break up” so to speak they lost a real genuine friend through drugs and he then became jaded that they got so much fame and love that even now years after he refused to let them use Tibs in the legend of vox
@@demona4151 Or, orrrrrrr: they're still humans with emotions. And they still lost a friend they played in private with for two years. They shared memories, highs and lows together. Voice actors or not, they still feel things.
@@MissTaylorDani Hell yeah, they may be actors but the circumstances behind Orion leaving/being forced to leave CR would be awful for anyone involved in the situation. He may have been annoying but the dude was going through a lot, and his friends probably knew it. CR is nice to watch because you can tell that they genuinely care about each other, and the end of this episode shows this IMO.
If he hadn't continued to be the *worst* person after leaving, we might have actually been able to get Orion back for one shots. But no, no, he had to send disgusting packages to their homes, threaten members of geek and sundry, and leak Ashley's phone number, steal more money from the charity he had suggested, ruin his reputation..
We wanted to know Tibbs the way they knew Tibbs. Orion ruined it by being horrible.
Um, felt like they showed more emotion when they thought NPC Gilmore might die.
I don’t think it’s really dawned on me until this episode just how much Percy hates himself
Yup
In the same way that i see Grog as the 'Hulk' of Vox Machina, I now see Percy as the 'Bruce Banner' of Voc Machina. A traumatized genius that creates new technology and wrestles with both personal and very literal demons.
I want to hug him.
He would be perfect for playing golum in lord of the rings, his face is perfect for it.
Sam’s move to change the memory from White Stone to Emon was a stroke of genius. What a recovery!
I'mAlex I was reacting just like the party was at first. I was thinking he was out of his mind. Then it turned out to be a really smart recovery from a past mistake. Props to Scanlan for proving that he deserves to wear the mustache.
Sam is probably the most impressive D&D player of the bunch. The whole time his motivation is to incite a battle between Thordak and Vorugal, and the team, through parts of the episode, didn't agree to the plan or backed out eventually. Even Grog backed out and it was his plan to begin with! Scanlan on the other hand, takes the mistake of mentioning Whitestone and opens up maybe the best opportunity to start that battle between Thordak and Vorugal. The battlefield tilts and wanes at the whim of Scanlan Shorthalt. Oh and then even with the modify memory, and knowing the consequences of mentioning Whitestone, Keyleth mentions Whitestone again 3:53:16...SMH...
In that regard, Scanlan is the sharpest tool in the shed, ahead of even Percy. Keyleth has the highest Wisdom stat, and yet is utterly clueless most of the time. Even Grog's insight and sharpness are ahead of hers. Odd indeed.
I would consider the memory alter less of a smart move and more of a high risk, possibly moderate reward play. Constantly arguing for actions that would in all likelihood draw attention to them before they could possibly be ready and blurting out information that put them at a disadvantage much like mentioning Whitestone by name isn't exactly a sign of high tactical thinking, though I will give props for his quick thinking. The problem is that had it not been successful, they would like have a fight on their hands...inside of a Dragon's lair. That being said I don't really fault him or any of the other players for slip ups like that because even with a strong imagination it's easy to forget or not consider certain details that seem obvious in hindsight when you don't have a real visual perspective. Also, they're just mechanical stats, they don't actually reflect player thought processes people so the unnecessary Keyleth jab is well...unnecessary.
This was definitely a great decision, but it should be noted that Taliesin likely suggested it when he leaned in and whispered to Sam just beforehand at 3:40:43.
I love the way you can see everyone trying to figure out what's happening when Percy tells the Dragonborn to take Tibs' body down. Laura instantly gets it but doesn't want to believe it, Travis gets it and just looks shocked like "no, what? No... What?!", Liam just sits and waits to see what happens, Marisha just looks confused as to what's going on, and Sam is just like "what's going on, what's the fuss about"?
The worst part about the ceremony is when Lockheed doesn't want to leave Tibs... That hits the feels like nothing else.
I seem to be the only one who thinks Travis looked happy. Where Laura looked really emptional I got a different read on Travis. Not sure why, he did seem really pissed at Orion at the end,OR he could have been thinking Matt's going to give him a good end. 3:43 45seconds he starts to get it and at 3:44 15sec (ish) he's smiling.......
@@DoubleDummy Nah, Travis smiles when there's heavy RP. You can see it other times, wether it's a tense or emotional situation, he usually has a smirk because he loves the roleplay.
@@DoubleDummy pay a bit more attention to Travis throughout both campaigns, he’s cheerleader #1 for Matt and crew during RP scenes, and will get a big ol grin on his face during heavy sequences. Dude loves a good story.
The last salutation...
Good morrow, Tiberius Stormwind.
I was really afraid the little Dragonling was gonna be buried with him 🥺🥺
Gilmore: [work for weeks putting up a barrier to keep Whitestone hidden]
Vax and Keyleth: "i'm about to end this mans whole career"
Right lol. I'm glad Percy was able to keep those 2 from jumping the gun.
@@asumax8 gun pun. Love it
I was on the verge of screaming at the screen. Why would you risk using a signal flare when you are supposed to be hiding under a tarp?
@@theq86 Because she understood dragons as having blindsight and being able to see through illusions. Because the "tarp" was new and not presented as a people can literally not see the city underneath / possibly the Mirage Arcane spell. Because she were playing with the "say you cast the spell or lose the opportunity"-.attitude.
@@TheChiliconkarma because just like in the freaking FeyWild she NEVER EVER LISTENS TO ANYONE EVER!!!! She thinks she's knows better than everyone else. She ALWAYS jumps the gun. And it would have been HER THAT WOULD THAT HAVE GOTTEN EVERYONE KILLED IF SHE HAD SHOT OFF THE SPELL. She's not an arcanist I'm pretty sure Alura & the others took blind site and true site into account. And honestly on what is my 5rd re watch of C1 I get the the Keyleth hate, she's thoughtless, self righteous, immature, disrespectful to Vax's religious conviction, keeps him on a string forever when she could have just said NO OR YES instead she whined and said "I'm afraid to say yes because you're going to die". Which made him dump on someone he could loved and been REALLY happy with. But kept him around while she figured it out.
I used to love her but now she PISSES ME THE HELL OFF!!!
I love the moment they all realize Percy had been sketching it's something special.
Dammit, Matt. I was doing alright until little Lockheed got all emotional.
watching Laura/Vex so subtly be absolutely destroyed that Percy doesn't remember all those important moments between them, all the wonderful things he did for her, is actually heartbreaking. Travis is actually concerned for her. Laura Bailey you are incredible
I love how for grog it genuinely wouldn't matter if he remembered or not
She was only sad that she almost lost her title.
Nomad Sure but, you know, she’d realised her feelings for him in the Feywild and those memories were important to her because- Yeah, sure she only worried about the title. We’ll go with that lol
Has anyone noticed that she's actually crying.... because the title wasn't what was important.
Faith Dever I agree.
Because of Grog I always forget that travis is a fully fledged intelligent adult man with a career and extensive skills I- wtf man
You know he's a good actor when he makes you forget that he's not dumb.
And on this day, Tiberius Stormwind used his last 3 sorcery points.
I can’t even 😂😂😂
His last words were, "... oh nevermind, I'm going to..."
And after his last 3 points he used 5 more
@@scotthoward8308 Nah he'd be introducing himself lol
That he uses to cast 5 4th level spells
Just want to give extra kudos to Taliesin for not coming out and saying it, but setting it up perfectly for Matt to do the reveal with his characteristic eloquence. Could have gone so many different ways, but he held it in for 20 minutes until the moment was right. Big kudos.
Yeah
If it was me, I'd have probably fudged that up
I just watched this moment. 8 times. First time i just heard it and went cold. Then once again watching only one face. As their expressions changed at different moments...
Truth!!
@@MissPumpkin91 when percy points out tibs. If you have not watched it then I dont want to spoil it. Its near the end
@@MissPumpkin91 3:21:00 is the moment where Taliesin gets the whisper.
Matt's closing monologue is one hell of a way to end a decade.
I couldn't help but feel like it was somehow a reference to what happened in real life with Orion leaving.
@@sebastaroth From what I know Matt reached out to Orion and asked him to have say on it.
Taliesin's face as sad Percy not remembering the feywild was so adorably sad
I can't tell if Talesin was acting or if he was trully terrified at the prospect of Whitestone being destroyed by the dragons, but damn I felt his agony xDD
He was no doubt looking forward to seeing it eventually rebuilt, so the notion that it might be destroyed again would definitely add a little tension.
Vax: You ever wanna revisit home?
Gilmore: ...Maybe.
OMG is Gilmore gonna go on an adventure with them???
Gilmore: Nah.
God fucking DAMMIT.
I got so excited at that moment!
Would be totally Gilmore to tease the whole party
Thing is, its been established that gilmore is several levels above the party, and has several very powerful spells to back that up. Matt can't give them an NPC that strong.
what timestamp is that please?
around 1:17:55 I think
C1 Liam: saying "fucking magic" over and over
C2 Liam: the most wizard to ever wizard
I love Vax, but Caleb as a character is just THAT much more amazing! Liam really throws himself at the role
Ooooh, now I am so excited to catch up to Campaign 2!
@@galev3955 It's so damn good, I honestly wish everyone could watch it
I really enjoyed seeing how different their characters are between the two campaigns
C3 Liam: saying “I don’t get that magic stuff” over and over
When Sam casted modify memory on Tooma I was so frustrated as to why he's ruining the situation to bring up Gern. But then when he explains he was doing it to remove him accidentally mentioning Whitestone, I thought "Holy shit. He's a genius."
I looked up the time stamps in case anyone finds them interesting
3:13:58 Gern mentioned
3:41:14 Scanlan modify memory
scanlan saying whitestone out loud - 3:32:35
@@chamomillesip Thanks, was a little confused because I didn't hear the Whitestone bit the first time watching and then I couldn't find it when they mentioned it was in there because it was a little ways ahead in the video.
Also it's especially noteworthy because Tooma threatens the group with that information, showing she cannot be trusted, even if she is just doing it to ensure their cooperation.
The minute she does that, Sam opens up his book and starts flipping to find Modify Memory. She done fucked up.
At this point I trust Sam with Scanlan's magic use completely. He's the most thoughtful, considerate, and deliberate spell caster of the bunch. He always puts on a show with it too and much more often than not succeeds in what he's attempting.
Oh god this episode... I had been dreading their arrival to Draconia, knowing what they would likely find. Yet even expecting it, Matt's delivery and Taliesin's lead into it just destroyed me all the same. I was fine until pretty much everyone on the cast started crying.
Goodbye Tiberius Stormwind, from Draconia, member of Vox Machina at Greyskull Keep. You died a hero.
Tiberius died a conceited fool, he never had the wisdom to know when he was out matched. He probably blew through all his sorcerer points in 6 seconds and was turned into a draconiacicle without a second thought.
@@maccrashgyver1947 But it would be in typical Vox Machina, and for that we will miss him.
@@maccrashgyver1947 yet here you are trash talking a dead character, hard to see which one of you is actually a conceited fool. This is about honor, not character. Tiberius was a lot of things but he was ultimately a part of Vox Machina and they will never be whole again without him. It was already hard for them seeing him leave the cast, there's no need for this kind of comments, especially in this episode
@@nunovpatoI mean Orion was a dick both at the table and away from it, and I never found Tiberius’ antics amusing so between the player and the character I held no respect for either. The cast were friends with him, so I understand their emotions regarding Tiberius’ fate, but to those of us who are strangers just being glad that Tiberius will never be revisited is quite a fair reaction.
@@justincharles2185We also only saw a small snippet of time with Tiberius. Vox Mochina knew him far longer than what we saw on the screen, both in and out of character. He was their friend, things went south. We don't know what he was like before they decided to start recording. They have a reason to be sad saying their final goodbyes, both to the friendship, and the character
"I got petrified! I tried diplomacy!...
... NEVER AGAIN."
tamriilin Totally unrelated, but I love your profile pic! FEZ is such a cool game!
😐 .... The name of the game... is "Fez".
The whole tail thing made a lot of things click into place for me. Why Tiberious and Tofor hated each other when they first met, Gern's story about dragons with tails treating him like a slave. That's a nice little bit of narrative there... I wonder if that was something Matt came up with when he made Draconia or if Orion suggested it.
Super late but it's based on forgotten realm lore
@@Minecraftdemon99 don't worry only about 2 years late
@@Minecraftdemon99 I appreciate it.
@@Minecraftdemon99 Could you source me, friend? I have a certain interest in this topic.
@@limroto dragonborn can't have tails in the official lore and aren't dragons. If you see a "dragonborn" with a tail it is a half dragon which are dragons. Dragonborn are from some weird alternate universe that is ruled by dragons. In that world dragons enslaved the dragonborn for hundreds of year so all dragonborn hate anything to do with dragons including half dragons.
I was good until Lockheed recognized Tibs. Then I just absolutely lost it. I love this game so much.
People are CONSTANTLY asking Vax "do you trust me?" As time goes on he is becoming more and more hesitant to give a definitive answer.
Was a great episode, but I wasn't expecting to get my heart ripped out in the last 15 minutes like that. Final nails in the coffin were Scanlan saying "Poppycok" and Grog remembering water for Tibbs.
I was at work when that part happened. Had to go about my business with customers while trying not to cry for the death of Tiberius 😂😭
I just watched this episode at work and it brought me to tears too. Especially the poppycock
The feels are real
Just caught up to this point while I was waiting for the carpet cleaner to arrive. Of course he showed up right after Scanlan's 'poppycock'...ugh, trying not to look like I just got wrecked. Holy cow. I knew this was coming from the moment the sphinx told them about Draconia falling, but damn Matt is masterful at ripping everyone's hearts out.
@@echoc7213 He's a master at story telling in general.
Oh my god. Ravinites. Ravine-ites. Ravine-dwellers. I just got that now.
I kept thinking, what do ravens have to do with dragonborn? Should Vax ask?
I feel dumb...
OH
Ah now I get it. I think the CC has Ravenites and I was waiting for Vax to find some connection ...
I enjoy the call back to Tofor's disdain for Tiberius. Tofor has no tail.
1:54:17 Love when Laura loses it at the unintentional inuendos. She even tells Travis and they giggle about it. They're so adorable!
I scrolled down looking for this comment. It was so good. Laura is hilarious, I love her!
I had the exact same reaction as her 😂
I love she was the only one cracking down at the words.
"I used my last magic poo to look at my daughter." Sam Riegel, 2016
Actually, that scene, is one of the most reckless and also has a potential of biting them back. That actually happened, it’s not “what if that actually happened”.
But only a few called Scanlan out of it. Nice.... But hey, it’s DnD and it’s fun to do it! :D
I love all of them. I just don’t like the double standard and negativity towards the other players.
Edit: yep, the consequence was immediate, painful and witty.... perfection!
@@RavenPH12 what are you on about?
@@godturkey4098 When Scanlan nonchalantly mentioned "Whitestone" among the Ravenites. They got in trouble but Scanlan fixed it immediately. There is no hate or at least constructive criticism.
But when Keyleth (and Vex) did something similar (Even though it won't affect them negatively as much) or just plain annoying? Explosion of hate. I don't mind constructive criticism of Keyleth's behavior. But most of the noisy ones are attacking her as if they know the character more than the player and some are just plain sexist and rude.
The double standard is hard to ignore sometimes.
I just accept everything they do as I see it. This is their game and we are lucky to see them play it. If I got annoyed, that's fine. Its better that way than loving a perfect character, which is boring.
Rebecca Hernandez many people get pissy with Liam too
@@Rexwar31 Its not as prevalent as Keyleth.
Only Sam, Travis, Ashley, and Taliesin has no hate from the comments.
The Twitch chat is another different mess.
"I've always liked you, Percy"
"I like you too, Vax"
"You're intelligent, charming, *good* *in* *a* *tight* *spot* "
"I'm quite fond of tight spots"
I love Laura’s reaction to this.
Sensible chuckle.
0:40 - Sam's Perfect Plug
7:00 - Recap Ends and the Game Begins
8:45 - Uh oh
10:00 - Vex's Priorities
10:40 - WOW LAURA
11:45 - Vex's Binder
12:30 - Scanlan "Helps"
13:05 - "Just look into my eyes..." (Scanlan/Percy Gif)
15:45 - The Memory
19:45 - Vax's Solution
20:54 - Scanlan's Deception (And Talisan's Reaction at 21:27)
21:54 - The Sketchbook
22:25 - The Dog
23:20 - Laura Gif #1
26:00 - Jareth! (26:28 - Why people are speculating he is really Artagan, though that's up to you)
30:00 - The War Council
42:00 - THEY'RE COMING!
54:55 - Pike Healing Grog
55:48 - Pike Heals Percy
58:35 - Who's Shaun? (Forgetful Travis)
59:05 - AWWWWWW
1:11:30 - Grog's Dramatic Insight Check
1:12:05 - Assume Pun #1
1:17:00 - Matt really wants them to go to Markket
1:18:57 - Yarrrr
1:23:50 - Assume Pun #2
1:26:20 - Assume Pun #3
1:35:30 - Bustin' Matt's Balls (Assume Puns #4 and #5)
1:37:20 - Assume Pun #6
1:37:30 - Assume Pun #7? (Clever Scanlan)
1:43:20 - Grog's Wisdom
1:50:45 - Vax and Percy Talk
1:58:45 - Kiki Blocked
2:17:10 - Scanlan Provokes Grog
2:36:26 - Percy Needs Oil
3:21:34 - Not All Snitches are Golden
3:21:48 - Percy's Wince
2:32:30 - A Gamble
2:32:40 - Laura Gif #2
2:35:35 - Anime Dragons?
2:44:30 - Choice A or B?
2:50:20 - Bustin' Matt's Balls Again
2:50:40 - Assume Pun #7 (for reals)
3:31:50 - Scanlan's Greatest Sentence
3:42:40 - Defender of Draconia
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Damn, I'm several years late, and I know that the situation around Tiberius' voice actor is messy. But I have to say I cried like a baby. It was a beautiful send off to a character that meant a lot to everyone in Vox Machina. It was heartbreaking but amazing
I’m even later, but I just cried myself to a headache. It was so emotional seeing them say goodbye to his friend. I’ll miss his “oh light!”
i just pretend he was always an NPC played by Matt
@@G32hero why?
And I just watched it right before work, great start lol
Now me a year after you. I was not ok.
Scanlin: "I used my last magic poo, to look at my daughter"
CLASSIC!!!
Despite how somewhat divided the fanbase seems to be on the events that transpired at the end, I think it was a wonderful and tactful sendoff for a character. It seemed to be pretty emotional for some of the group as well
They have mentioned before that to them, a part of them felt these characters were alive and people they knew. They'd played for two years before this, though less frequently. I'm not saying that these people aren't capable actors, but I think at least on some level all of them felt a palpable pang of loss and grief. Whether related to the real life circumstances or to simply the character that theirs knew.
@@jtjpro13 Exactly. Regardless of real life circumstances with Orion, Tiberius is still a character canon within the story and world. And within that canon Tiberius traveled with Vox Machina for a long time before going back to Draconia. At the very least the characters who liked Tiberius would be sad to see him die.
@Leisure yup. Marisha's fake cry while trying not to show how bored she was with not being the spotlight was so cringe worthy though.
Looked like laura/liam actually felt that scene though. If they were just acting kudos to them.
As usual marisha ruined the scene for me though 😒
@@asluckdespairs literally she did not do anything more or less than the rest of the crew, you're just looking for excuses to hate on her because you're just joining in on the rest of the Hate band wagon, its people like you that ruin the Critical Role community and fanbase
asluckdespairs you seem delightful
Every time they make an Assum pun, another member of the Tal'Dorei Council dies 😂
1:53:04 underrated line
"I do not want to die who i am. I would like to live long enough to be someone else."
don't read if you haven't seen the episode yet
that was absolutely perfect.
Grog pouring water instead of ale and Scanlan's 'poppycock' remark made me cry harder. I'm thankful that he died a hero. Knowing him, he probably spent all of his sorcery points on fireballs.
My eyes still hurt... so much emotion in that moment.
Your comment made me laugh while crying.
Thanks for that.
He died as he lived. Using all of his sorcery points at once for a giant fireball
Pia B *sniff* the bastard probably tried to use 2 leveled spells in a single round too. *blows tissue* To an dumb and stubborn, but courageous Dragonborn.
Or telekinesis
Every time the members of vox machina roll a nine the characters in their new campaign gain a little XP.
NIEN!
Given that the new campaign uses milestone leveling and levels up through having sex, I'm inclined to think of something else...
@@leahsander5490 I... uh... wot? It does? Well, only like 4 more years for me to get there.
@@GrayEmbry It's a long-running gag among fans. Campaign two does use milestone leveling, and it just so happened that on multiple occasions, in the sessions where Matt told them at the end that they level up, one of them had had sex. Now, that's either complete coincidence or it tells us something about how their characters deal with high-stress situations, but because it happened multiple times, there's a joke going around that they level up through sex xD
I always knee jerk go "NEIN!" lol
How am I crying? I knew this was going to happen. I'd read spoilers. I saw all the beats coming throughout the episode. And I'm still crying! What great storytelling for the Stormwind Saga!
Same here! He was my favorite from the beginning so I went searching for spoilers. Yet here I am with a headache from all the crying
Them talking about the theoreticals of Scanlan becoming a spy.
Travis: "You'd be the Hercules Mulligan of Vox Machina!"
Sam: Legitimately considers it for an instant.
Playing Grog must be so frustrating for Travis at times. He always has great ideas but he either can't express them through Grog, or gets dismissed because it is Grog. What a guy.
From a character that doesn't get heard as much beyond his own arc unless he's making a big statement, to acting as the party's face in the second campaign. It's a startling difference.
I had a thought about that, it would be a good time for Matt to make a joke magic 8ball that "randomly" generates words or phrases. Or even a lightly cursed item...that only effects people of intelligence of 10 or grater. So he could be in character just shacking this shiny thing muttering words that's actually just him indicating he has an idea that's he's too stupid to actually come up with in character. But anybody with a 10 in intelligence it just gives the worse possible advice.
The turning into a Gorilla with the samt INT, or getting a companion dog with higher INT, must be challenging as heck to deal with. Travis is, subtly, absolutely brilliant RPing Grog
It takes a very clever person to play a low intelligence character well, and he did an amazing job.
@@darkvizardking69 all of them, really. Liam C1 "how even does magic?!" to wizard. Sam from plus a billion Charisma to negative a billion Charisma. Noble and dark Percy to flamboyant, gold hearted Molly. Watching them all go so drastically different is such a treat!
grog: "i tried diplomacy!.... never again =_=" muhaha, now that is character progression i like.
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For those of us late to the party. Credit to lee mam
0:40 - Sam's Perfect Plug
7:00 - Recap Ends and the Game Begins
8:45 - Uh oh
10:00 - Vex's Priorities
10:40 - WOW LAURA
11:45 - Vex's Binder
12:30 - Scanlan "Helps"
13:05 - "Just look into my eyes..." (Scanlan/Percy Gif)
15:45 - The Memory
19:45 - Vax's Solution
20:54 - Scanlan's Deception (And Talisan's Reaction at 21:27)
21:54 - The Sketchbook
22:25 - The Dog
23:20 - Laura Gif #1
26:00 - Jareth! (26:28 - Why people are speculating he is really Artagan, though that's up to you)
30:00 - The War Council
42:00 - THEY'RE COMING!
54:55 - Pike Healing Grog
55:48 - Pike Heals Percy
58:35 - Who's Shaun? (Forgetful Travis)
59:05 - AWWWWWW
1:11:30 - Grog's Dramatic Insight Check
1:12:05 - Assume Pun #1
1:17:00 - Matt really wants them to go to Markket
1:18:57 - Yarrrr
1:23:50 - Assume Pun #2
1:26:20 - Assume Pun #3
1:35:30 - Bustin' Matt's Balls (Assume Puns #4 and #5)
1:37:20 - Assume Pun #6
1:37:30 - Assume Pun #7? (Clever Scanlan)
1:43:20 - Grog's Wisdom
1:50:45 - Vax and Percy Talk
1:58:45 - Kiki Blocked
2:17:10 - Scanlan Provokes Grog
2:36:26 - Percy Needs Oil
3:21:34 - Not All Snitches are Golden
3:21:48 - Percy's Wince
2:32:30 - A Gamble
2:32:40 - Laura Gif #2
2:35:35 - Anime Dragons?
2:44:30 - Choice A or B?
2:50:20 - Bustin' Matt's Balls Again
2:50:40 - Assume Pun #7 (for reals)
3:31:50 - Scanlan's Greatest Sentence
3:42:40 - Defender of Draconia
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The thing I like most about these narrative driven stories as opposed to a story just about getting jobs done, is that it can add so much more flavour that you wouldnt get in another medium. Just a little thing like Vex saying she had a bad nights sleep which potentially will give her an exhaustion point but it doesnt matter as it makes more sense for her character and developing the setting. I'm imagining if this was a videogame and we would simply just reload a save. I guess shows like this allow for a more broader narrative experience as its not simply about getting to the end, because there technically is no end.
I agree so much!! Thats why im so happy baldurs gate 3 got me into this. And hopefully soon play my first game of DND probably a one shot, as ive heard its better for beginners.
2:14:48 liam tapping laura just to whisper "you have a lot of dice" to her was so adorable and out of the blue hahah
then she just whips out her dice bag to show him just how many
i'm so glad you pointed this out omg that's so cute!!!
like Sims lol
Thanks to Orion anytime I hear "Draconia" I hear him saying "I'm Tiberius Stormwind, and I'm from Draconia" It was honestly one of my favorite parts of his character
Moreover from grey skull keep just outside of emon.
I know I am late to the conversation, but Tiberius also could rip a lot of damage. Keyleth could also take a lesson in how to introduce yourself to a potential friend. That her "reasoning parlay" is deemed wise seemed like pure luck. Did they even introduce themselves... as from Aman (Don't mention White Castle, lol)? No clear description of these cities & continents? It it that obvious the six of you are serious dragon-slayers I know these are suppose to be the oppressed underclass but they did have a library and they do have a wise leader. So please stop with the Xena-speak. Seriously, watch some C-Span. Also Marisha, if you should ever read this check out the TED Talk by ecologist Suzanne Simard on how trees talk to each other. Stuff every druid should know and it's real!
Don't forget his teleport, his *light!* spell, and -prejes- ... -prisse- ... the spell he used for cleaning stuff!😜
( I learned Prestigitation can be used for tons more things! Shame he didn't seem to know that...😑)
@@KickyFut I think he made chalk from it once lol
I hear ya!
Been going through the series for the first time and while I've loved all of it, got to say Liam and Laura both going "What?!" at the same time is probably my favorite little vax/vex moment so far, followed by one of the most hilariously awkward scanlan quotes of all time
i'm a newcomer as well, and i can't even imagine laura and liam not playing siblings in the later campaigns... though i'm sure they'll find a way to bring together their perfect dynamic
I love that whenever they visit a people one of their party comes from, they all have similar voices to the player. All the barbarian Herd sounded like Grog, all the Dragonborn sound like Tiberius, etc.
Tal looking directly into the camera as he says "perhaps we should not have.... assumed" is still one of his best moments in either campaign
Ever since the moment they landed in Wildmount, I can't stop a little Jester closed in her room waiting for a friend to play with her, a little Fjord crying in an orphanage, Beau desperately crying for attention from her father, Caleb spending time with his parents. Veth i think might not even be born at this point, Yasha being happy in her tribe. And Caduceus just waiting in the Blooming Grove sipping tea with dead people...
I just love that this world feels so alive and consistent. God I want a crossover so bad
Currently rewatching Campaign 1. Your comment just made me cry 😭😭
@@escagirl Oh my god, I'm sorry. I just finished campaign 1 and I notice all the thing in campaing 2 that were unintentionally forshadowed. It just makes the world seem more cohesive and consistent, justo to show the incredible work Matt and the others do
Lucien is probably in some kind of teenage gang and Mollymauk is... well somewhere.
This makes me so hype for campaign 2. I’m watching through the first one before it, but I can imagine that pretty clearly.
I doubt Veth was actually only a few years old. If I remember right, Halflings age at the same rate as humans.
Everyone is talking about Tiberius and I am sitting here just loving how Taliesin is playing Percy without his memory of the feywild.
I also really loved Grog remembering everything LMAO. 😮😄😅😬😵🗿
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3:41:34 lol I love marisha and taliesin together so much, they are so cute such good friends. Also Travis dying of laughter in the background and Liam’s “look at Matt’s face..” LOL
Matt: "It grows bored"
Me: But has it hunted a Tri-Scanlan-Tops?
"It's the open spaces where I suffer." "Never trust me." "Like me. I want to earn your like, but never trust me." - That's a cerebral, big picture character, well-positioned as a potential ruler.
Totally some George Washington I will retire i don't want to be king type shit
"I rule because I must, not because I want to."
Exactly the people who shoukd be in charge.
@@clayxros576 *laughs in Robert Baratheon*
As someone studying Japanese for a career, Grog speaking Japanese was so fucking funny lmao
That sendoff was honestly so beautifully handled and gutwrenching. Feeling heartbroken for the characters losing a partymember while simultaneously feeling that evident heartbreak the actors were going through was... I mean, wow. I didn't care much for Tiberius's character, but I'm glad they gave Orion and themselves a difinitive goodbye as opposed to simply leaving everything in limbo.
"I think we should go as ravaged Draconians."
"Yeah, that way at least they'll trust us."
It pains my heart watching Laura wiping tears off of her face as she plays Vex, who's sad about Percy losing his memory of the Feywild . I think it's less about the title he'd given her and more about the time they spent together. I'm so glad Pike managed do restore him.
I think it's also about the circumstances Percy gave her that title. It was his way of taking her side and sticking it up to her father who she has difficult and bad relationship with. That moment for Vex was much more than just getting the titile
She already had the title back. I absolutely think Vex was crying because this seven day period changed her relationship with Percy, drew them closer and allowed her to lean on him, and made her realize who she loved. And he had forgotten all of it.
I think she was heartbroken at the loss. Nothing could ever bring back the closeness and revelation of those seven days if the memories were gone for good. (I was so glad Greater Restoration worked!)
I was so so so angry that this had happened ot them. Such heartfelt character growth and interaction jsut... gone, and only from one side. This is why memory manipulation stuff is my existential fear, and drives me into a primal unease, a screaming sobbing mess.
Just try to imagine the ramifications of losing something significant. Loosing a loved one that you cant ever remember having had in hte first place. Waht of you would also be lost? How much of hte person you fought tooth and nail to become would just be ...gone, reset, removed and replaced by a you that you had tried so desperately to escape?
As a survivor of emotional and psychological abuse, this destroys me. This scared me on a level nothing else can touch, to think that someday someone could wake up and just be a completely different person, and never know it. To be thrust back into the place they tried so hard ot crawl out of, and never even know that teh people that helped them the first time were ever there.
All it takes is losing the memory of one person, or one event, on chance meeting, and you could simple forget that you had ever decided to be the you that you fought to be.
It is terrifying on an indescribable level, and even this lesser form, just losing a couple of days of wonder and soft words, it's terrible, and devastating. And while it's fictional for us, it's real for hte characters.
I am so glad that it didn't have to be a permanent thing. But my god, I am terrified of that spell now.
@@Luinta I agree that it's horrifying, but it makes sense to me that Sam doesn't get that for a long, long time.
He has never played D&D or RPGs and plays this (purely, which is great, good or bad) -- as a game. If Scanlan can modify someone's memory and he lives, great. He doesn't get at first how repellent this is in the larger picture.
I definitely appreciated as time went on that you could see changes in Sam's portrayal of Scanlan -- from a caricature "funny guy, no feelings, stalking Pike" to a genuinely complex person -- and I really do love that and find the journey worth it.
But he is also playing according to Scanlan's alignment, and Scanlan is like, "if they don't know, will it hurt them?" So it's upsetting but -- believable.
The only use of Modify Memory I've seen that I loved was Laura's in C2. Because it was justifiable, a good counteracting evil, and saved a friend.
@@paramitch oh I know, and his roleplay really kicks up in c2 with Nott. It's incredible. Sam became a fave in c2. It's the situation specifically that plays on a primal fear of mine am snakes it just so...vicerally upsetting.
Lockheed not wanting to go and then saying goodbye. Broke me. RIP TIBERIOUS STORMWIND OR DRACONIA.
3:32:02 when laim and laura actually become twins instead of playing them. followed by sams best phrase ever.
It was the twinniest twin-thing that I have ever seen the Twins twin. Perfect!
I think when Matt said that he had to be careful, he was talking about how he was going to handle the whole Draconia/Tiberius bit. I must say that I thought this was done very well.
Spoiler
When the scry on Tibs failed without a roll, I was like... Shiiiit....
Spawnie1989 Honestly, I thought that he was going to leave Tiberius completely out of it, since "legal reasons" had been brought up over the split, and Tibs would technically be Orion's IP(?). Sad as it was I'm glad the group (and the audience) got some closure.
Spawnie1989 Yeah.
I knew already, but
I knew right then.
So sad how they were trying to say “Maybe he’s in another dimension!” And all
Some Joyce & Buffy Summers level shit
PG - E to be fair, seeing as he was a mid level sorcerer, it would be entirely possible for him to have been on another plane.
@@Aplesedjr I remember reading that although Orion left the show, it wasn't due to them hating him, but rather issues Orion was having in his life (which he wrote about somewhere), and those issues were then translating indirectly to the group. If I had to guess, Matt and Orion probably discussed what was going to happen to Tiberius and had a mutual agreement beforehand. Remember, Matt gave Tiberius a very nice farewell many episodes ago.
Well his personal story was leading him into the Fey wild to find his next forgotten relic. It made perfect sense for him to be on another plan during this time frame.
I would never have imagined that watching a bunch of people play a game would make me laugh, cry, and shout in triumph. I LOVE this show.
i want to say, i really really love percy forcing keyleth to understand that this isn’t a battle, this is a war. keyleth, as much as i love her, struggles to see the big picture sometimes. she wants to save everyone and that’s beautiful, but people are going to die and that’s the way battle works. this is a war, and keyleth has to understand that they can’t just barge into this. they need to be tactful and purposeful in every single move they make and do what will be best in turning the tide in their favor even if it goes against what they want in that moment. they all need to think about the fate of the entire world over the fate of just their friends, just each other, just whitestone even
Sorry this is one of many times Keyleth doesn't listen to her party members. Like in the FeyWild she got Percy blinded. They were lucky that was fixable but getting hundreds of people killed and losing their safe space would have been on her conscience and I don't think Percy would have forgiven her so quickly this time. No one would.
This isn’t keyleth, it’s Marisha. She constantly doesn’t follow how her character should be acting in a situation. Keyleth wouldn’t do something so stupid like make a damn sky message that a multitude of dragons could potentially see. Not to mention being so stubborn about it when it turns out she has no clue what she was even going to write and would just do the de rolo sign? That’s dumb as shit.
Marisha has no improv skills she needs a script which is why her character in the animated series is actually decent because Marisha is just following a script and that’s it. Here she just wants to create cool badass moments because it’s what she wants the game to be when that’s not how the game is. She’s an idiot through and through
@@jenny_of_oldstones3523i wish they let her do it so she'd have to face consequences of her dumb actions 😤
I also really like those moments such as Vex's post-break words where the player, unprompted by Matt, gives a disadvantageous situation to their character that makes perfect sense - another good recent one was Percy panicking when blinded, and there's always Grog raging back in Episode 11 when his cask of ale was ruined. It makes the characters feel even more real (somehow).
A bit late here obviously, but!
I think it's because it makes them feel more real because in real life we do stupid shit all the time for emotional (not logical reasons). They are acting to their own disadvantage because it makes sense that their character would do it, even if it is a waste of resources. I agree whole-heartedly that it is awesome. :)
Grog: sits sadly
Rolls for sadness
Nat 20
Exactly Keg of campaign 2
"I used my last magic poo to look at my daughter." - Scanlan Shorthalt, everybody.
Also, heyo to my fellow latecomers binging this! We can do it!!
Yes we can! I started at episode 1 a little over a month ago, lamenting I haven't found Critical Role earlier!
I'm so far behind! At least I won't run out of content to watch anytime soon.
*Scatlan
3:31:59
Halfway there!!
I love how Laura nailed it without knowing it, just before Liam made his insight check on the "leak" herself.
Can we take a moment to appreciate that they found out about Tiberius by flipping a natural one?😢
No matter your opinions on Orion, this was truly sad to watch. Especially since these guys proved that they're able to set aside their own feelings about Orion and pay tribute to the character who was a friend to their characters.
Even finding his behavior distracted and knowing this was coming I still cried especially when I saw Liam's reaction
@musicmessengers1 Yeah, it made me tear up even after I knew everything that was going on.
Apparently Matt and Orion spoke to each other about how this was gonna happen. He got to put his input to the final say of Tiberius
I think it might have actually been more the opposite for many of them. Marisha and Orion were very good friends before the stream, as he was good friends with a lot of them. Seemed partially like they were sad about the loss of their friend they'd known for years before this ever started
Alex Gulino I agree. As someone who went through a very bitter and painful break up with a formerly very close and cherished friend, I can totally relate to the cast’s reaction in that scene and completely believe it’s more than just roleplaying but actually mourning the relationship they used to have.
Laura and Marisha: In tears
Taliesen and Liam: Look genuinely sad
Sam and Travis: Awkwardly trying to look somber/covering their faces
Every single super serious/sad moment hahaha
Sam was genuinely upset at the end, that's a genuine reaction from him. Travis nearly started laughing and had to stop himself...but that's cos he still felt awkward at this time with this kind of role-playing.
@@0saintclark0I think both Sam and Travis are quickly covering up smiles at the end. Those two seemed to be the most angry/annoyed by Orion's/Tiberius's antics during the last few episodes he was there, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were happy to see his end
1:29:05 is it just me, or like, a couple of episodes ago they found out that green dragons are greedy, use trickery, and *exploit other dragons to get them killed and steal their horde*? All they needed to do is convince either or both vorugal and thordak that it was raishan's doing, and even better, that vox machina WAS HIRED by raishan. That is a GREAT way to make dragons pick a fight with each other 🤣
I love that Percy held strong and stopped Keyleth from basically dooming everyone (no Keyleth hate here, just her that her fear almost killed a whole load of innocent people). That shows real guts, balls and leadership from Percy. Great acted scene from Taliesin and Marisha.
What an ending to this show...
Mike Chan Man Percy always knows what's up. He pays attention, he always has everything figured out, and he always gets walked all over.
Perhaps, but I don't think he minds. He's fairly easy going, gets what he wants, and is quite amused by the rest of the chaos that goes on around him. He is the most cunning, so definitely the most dangerous if he ever truly turned evil.
Ah... but where does Keyleth start and Marisha end? Therein lies the eternal mystery that makes paper and pen roleplaying so much deeper than video games ever could.
Idk, Marisha (as herself, trying to clarify) clearly said that she wanted to cast the spell underneath the bubble. I think everyone was panicking too hard to think straight at that point.
*Mordirit*
Problem with this is that the lowest possible clouds are 2.400 m (8.000 ft) high.
And I am pretty sure that this bubble doesn't go that high.
This buble would've to be over 2.400 m (8.000 ft) high to write anything in the coulds while having it under the bubble.
Why would you create such high protective bubble above the city when the thing you want to protect from is known to fly a lot?
It doesn't make any sense.
So either Keyleth would just write it high enough so the dragon can see it clearly above the bubble or the bubble would be so high that the dragon would just flew in there while crossing over the city.
Unless Matt would bend the rules of nature, again, for Keyleth's spell to work the way Marisha wants.
EDIT: Oh, so I watched a little bit further and the dome is about 80-100 ft tall. There's no fucking way there are clouds under the roof of the dome.
Vax insight checks Assum, asks Gilmore how he is afterwards instead, then when Gilmore suggests using a teleportation circle he has outside the city, Vax quickly suggests walking instead.. Hmmm....
Marisha's tears were for her real friend. That's pretty heartbreaking stuff.
I fully believe Matt mentioned that Assum arrived to Whitestone by the teleportation sigil on purpose, hoping that the players would remember there were no damn teleportation sigils in Whitestone since the briarwoods got rid of them!
He did it like 4 times and none of them got the hint. I love them.
Right!?
Normally I can't stand when shows I love have to incorporate ads into what they do. With Critical Role, I get excited when I see Mercer get up to whisper, just because I get to hear Sam plug a sponsor.
I guess the sincerity of it makes it ok.
Sam always did the "plugging during whisper" joke, even long before they had sponsors, then he'd just talk about how you could subscribe to G&S on twitch to watch the show, or talk about events the cast was going to.
His lootcrate jokes feel like a natural progression of that... and besides, they are hilarious =p
i hope u already seen dnd beyond song.
Xellos Kaczor That was years after this.
@Leisure Would you say... life needs things to live?
Just noticed that whenever Matt goes to whisper to Liam he does so into his right ear and not his left which he has the medical condition
this is keyleth's leadership after nearly finishing her personal quest to become a competent leader. the air druids are fucked
Taliesin: The Anti-Wheaton
Balance must be brought to the universe.
On a funny note, it is imbalance that made the universe to begin with. If matter and anti matter were in balance... it'd just be a sea of energy, not particles... Weird.
but what if energy and matter are the contrasting antithesis?
1234kalmar on a doubly funny note, Liam rolls more 20s than Taliesin-Taliesin's just happen at more opportune moments
@@mischa2643 liam rolled more dice throughout the wholr campaign tho, taliesin has the highest ratio.
*interrupt* "Choice B." I lost it hahaha
Christopher Calvery “slavery it is!”