You're A MONSTER! Cenk Uygur vs Douglas Murray On Israel Palestine War With Piers Morgan
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I wish people would stop treating cenk as a legitimate intellectual voice.
Seriously
What? 🙄
At least Cenk cares about dead kids. Douglas doesn't. And I've never been a Cenk fan. But today I am
Agreed. He’s a complete moron
Yep!
Thank goodness for Douglas Murrray. He tells the unvarnished truth. Always. Stay safe DM, the world needs your voice of reason to extinguish the madness swirling around us.
Gotta love such a smart woman. All the best in blessed days, towards the end of this year.
@@EncourageLegacy Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks!
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians.
Well done again Douglas.
I’d say Mr Murray won this debate hands down.
Thank you Douglas !!! Thank you for standing against this shaimful claims against Israel!
Forget about Cenk who’s an awful speaker. Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks! The neighbouring countries send aid and fill the coffers of the Palestinian Authority with money. Qatar alone invested billions in Gaza before the war. But they will NOT help Israel empty Gaza of Gazans! Egypt took in refugees from neighbouring countries like Sudan and Libya. But they know that Israel offers no guarantee to make Gazans return after the war, so fool me once! … Israel has a labour shortage so they hire Palestinian workers (ironically they devastated their economy by military occupation), Egypt doesn’t have labour shortage. And his last point that a solution can be that Egypt or coalition of Arab nations to run Gaza or Fatah (the PA) were all shut down by Netanyahu.
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians. Israel has a labour shortage so they take in Palestinian workers, but Egypt doesn’t have a labour shortage.
@@HusseinDohawow. You related to Cenk? Every single item you cited was a lie. Parroting Hamas…
Thank God for Douglas!
I am with Douglas Murray 100%
@@busterbiloxi3833 You must have a very low IQ if you think that to agree with a person's argument it is necessary to share their sexuality.
@@busterbiloxi3833What tf are you talking about? Just stfu
He is hateful
Love him!
You're also a bot or the same person with all these other comments. Get a life bro
Thank you, Douglas, for being a defender of the truth ❤
get him Douglas!!!
Every time you hear the Palestinian side it sounds like an angry child stomping their feet. “No no! I’m right you’re wrong!”
That's Cenk on every topic. He's not the best spokesman for Palestinians 😅
They were both like that
Even kids don't lie as much as the Pallywood propagandists
@@randomhuman2595 No, nice try.
*_He thinks that the louder he shouts makes him right, seriously, he does ..._*
Cenk Uygur completely humiliated and reduced to a pile of pathetic verbal garbage, by a sharp, well informed and well articulated Douglas Murray. Not surprised at all, knowing the high ethical standard of Douglas. In other words, business as usual.
lol ok
Douglas wears loafers.
@tommyvictor... Absolutely ..Cenk just displayed exactly what Douglas said of him ...' a low rent thug '
@@CaptainDarrick Forget about Cenk who’s an awful speaker. Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks! The neighbouring countries send aid and fill the coffers of the Palestinian Authority with money. Qatar alone invested billions in Gaza before the war. But they will NOT help Israel empty Gaza of Gazans! Egypt took in refugees from neighbouring countries like Sudan and Libya. But they know that Israel offers no guarantee to make Gazans return after the war, so fool me once! … Israel has a labour shortage so they hire Palestinian workers (ironically they devastated their economy by military occupation), Egypt doesn’t have labour shortage. And his last point that a solution can be that Egypt or coalition of Arab nations to run Gaza or Fatah (the PA) were all shut down by Netanyahu.
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians. Israel has a labour shortage so they take in Palestinian workers, but Egypt doesn’t have a labour shortage.
@@HusseinDohaok jfc no one is reading that
You just gotta love Douglas Murray!
Without fail, when Cenk begins to lose a debate he becomes verbally repulsive to his opponent. How dare he speak to you the way he did ("Why don't you shut up..."). He's a pathetic excuse for intellectual insight. Bravo to you for being willing to participate in this debate. You destroyed Malcolm Gladwell and Cenk Uygur. B R A VO, sir 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽!!!
I 100% agree. Douglas remained incredibly calm while Cenk threw a temper tantrum.
Murray was interrupting Cenk so Cenk was right to tell Murray the Poseur to Shut Up!
@@busterbiloxi3833 He only interrupted Cenk when he was talking bullshit ...which was all the time
BIGOT
Chunk Yogurt
Douglas Murray quote: "you are a low rent racist". Excellent putdown 😂👍👍👍👍👍👍
Cenk is not a good speaker but Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks!
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians.
1. This isn't 1948.
2. You purport to know what people you've never met 'fantasize' about. The rest of point 2 is unsubstantiated pablum.
3. Do the math, honestly. If Israel's bombing was indiscriminate, there would be more than 1.3 civilians killed per bomb. 20,000 bombs, if indiscriminate would be more like 200k dead in total, not 15k or 20k as reported by Hama's the terrorist organization worse than ISIS.
Think before you write. 😉
Why isn’t this guy screaming for Hamas to release the hostages and lay down their arms to stop any civilians being killed. He doesn’t suggest that he only says Israel should stop pursuing the Hamas killers.
Piers should have asked his guests to address that.
That's why they have to push the genocide lie. Typical leftist thinking, accusing Israel of what Hamas have admitted to over and over again.
@@milton1lfredharrison881He asked him, and Cenk said the hostages (specially the civilian hostages) should be freed!
Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks!
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians.
Because he's a terrorist.
Douglas, you are my favorite journalist, I admire your honesty in this two-faced world
Agree 100%
@@Owen7768 Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks!
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians.
Did Piers Morgan just refer to Cenk Uygur as a "big brain"? Big yes, brain no.
😅
I think he is intelligent. I disagree with him. But he has a Muslim background. So it's understandable that he takes the Palestinian side... But i don't agree with him abiut much anyway
@@youlig1 How can one be intelligent when he one is so clueless about the Palestinians wanting peace? Either he is dumb or a liar. Every leader they had (only 3) have been paying terrorists. Arafat, Abbas , Hamas.
@@youlig1 If you actually think he is intelligent,then that says a lot about your own level of intelligence! 🤔
Lol 😂
Well spoken Douglas as usual! The world needs to hear more humans like you! You're a powerful truthful voice !!
Nobody takes chunk seriously.....mr murray is amazing
This dope has mentioned the Amalek thing over and over. He is a dog with a bone.
Chunk Yogurt !!
AGREED!! Man is a DESPICABLE, disgraceful, disgusting excuse for a human being. And when put next to and up against someone lile Douglas Murray it really hits home how unhinged Cenk is. He is a complete idiot. Attempting to call Douglas a racist bringing up his being Muslim like Douglas said a single word about it an attempting to call him racist seems like projection at its finest to me. He needs to shut up an quit speaking on things he clearly didn't do his homework on. He cherry picks and misconstrues ALL his "facts and statistics" to fit his narrative. Yes during a debate you want to come prepared to back your side of the argument but you also should know ALL the statistics NOT pick and choose what fits best to you only. Him saying Douglas has "Mad ramblings". Irony at it's finest folks. Ugh.
Douglas Murray is such an honorable man and TRULY EXCEPTIONAL 🥳🥳🥳
I agree he is annoying and pompous as hell HOWEVER......HOWEVER........that does NOT mean we should silence him. Let him talk. Let him speak his mind and look absolutely ridiculous. Let him say whatever he wants.
Thank you Douglas Murray ... you know the history, you know what is happening on the ground and you know the facts!
Yep...poor Cenk doesn't leave his bedroom...
Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks!
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians.
@@HusseinDoha You are just spewing the usual propoganda so shut it.
@@lf9341 I dare you to counter anything I said.
@@HusseinDoha It doesn't matter what I say...you won't listen.
100% Stand with Israel and Douglas!!!
I stand with Ishtar and donuts!
@@busterbiloxi3833I stand with my legs and they stand with me
@@busterbiloxi3833 I live in Biloxi. we should meet up. You seem cool.
Forget about Cenk who’s an awful speaker. Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks! The neighbouring countries send aid and fill the coffers of the Palestinian Authority with money. Qatar alone invested billions in Gaza before the war. But they will NOT help Israel empty Gaza of Gazans! Egypt took in refugees from neighbouring countries like Sudan and Libya. But they know that Israel offers no guarantee to make Gazans return after the war, so fool me once! … Israel has a labour shortage so they hire Palestinian workers (ironically they devastated their economy by military occupation), Egypt doesn’t have labour shortage. And his last point that a solution can be that Egypt or coalition of Arab nations to run Gaza or Fatah (the PA) were all shut down by Netanyahu.
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians. Israel has a labour shortage so they take in Palestinian workers, but Egypt doesn’t have a labour shortage.
@HusseinDoha 1. You're right, nobody will guarantee they will be able to come back. In 1948 the Arab countries started a war to destroy Israel and kill all the Jews. Many Arabs stayed, and got fully equal rights, some left, not because they were kicked out, but because Arab leaders told them to retreat, and they will get their land back once the Arab armies will win the war.
2. Israel always want peace, including this government, unfortunately there is no partner for peace, so right now all Israelis agree on that.
3. Israeli intelligence obviously didn't know about this attack, but they know about countless terror bases, assuming that they knew absolutely nothing and "half of the bombs were dropped without any intelligence" - is a really dumb claim.
The unfortunate killing of 3 Israeli hostages is horrible, but it doesn't prove the point you're trying to make, in the exact place just one day before there was a terrorist attack there, and some Israeli soldiers were killed, Hamas tried to manipulate the IDF, by shouting for help, even in Hebrew, using speakers.
By the way, the only reason Israel is accepting Palestinian workers is because they wanna help them financially, they can get workers from any other place.
I'm glad that Palestinians want to fish freely, unfortunately they have elected a terrorist organization, well, those actions have consequences.
It's funny to me that you're calling a radical left wing organization(Btzelem), decent Israelis.
TODAH RABAH ACHI AHUV SHELANU!❤ Mr. Douglas Murray!
Thank You very much our beloved brother!
--You are a true champion of justice, and your courage will save both Israeli and Palestinian lives.
@EvelynePinkus Thank you Evelyne, I edited my post. Mr. Murray is a true gem, a very noble soul, an extremely powerful communicator and brave brave human being. We need more like him in this world.
FANTASTIC - I love Douglas Murray! A ship of truth steering elegantly through an endless sea of bullshit! His coverage on this conflict has been BRILLIANT. Thank you for a great show Piers!
What high quality entertainment! Thank you Douglas for making me laugh out loud and for mopping the floor with this hysterical buffoon. We really don't get to have a lot if joy in Israel these days. You are truly an intellectual treasure.
Oh and by the way I checked Cenky's claim about their supposed extensive coverage of the Uighurs on TYT and found exactly 2 videos (!), one from 5 years ago. Nice one.
Cenk,the internets biggest bad joke.
@@Frankyumi2255 Everything he said was wrong, starting with aping Hamas's fake numbers.
@@Frankyumi2255. His vision for a two state solution is hilariously naive or disingenuous. The Palestinian authorities have no appetite for peace. They make money from conflict.
@@Frankyumi2255 Who knows? Why would anyone accept the numbers of evil lying Hamas? And it's immaterial any way. Everyone who is dead is dead because they voted for Hamas and Hamas made an attack that made the Nazis look like choir boys and then Hamas used the dead people as human shields. Hope this helps, since you couldn't pick any of that up in the video, lol
@@Frankyumi2255 exactly what you believe. Thank you for showing exactly what is wrong with this generation. Keep being a victim, nobody cares.
@@Frankyumi2255 How can one be intelligent when he one is so clueless about the Palestinians wanting peace? Either he is dumb or a liar. Every leader they had (only 3) have been paying terrorists. Arafat, Abbas , Hamas.
"Good luck with that." -Douglas Murray on Cenk Uygar's Presidential Run.
Well done, sir.
That got me 😂
What an absurd thing for Chunk to try to achieve 🤣
Cenk is a colossal CLOWN 🤡 at best 🙄
@@Frankyumi2255 The truth is there is no way Cenk can or ever will be POTUS. It's a grift to sell his shitty book.
@@Frankyumi2255 Your psychological theses only work for people like you
@@Frankyumi2255 LOL he handled this imbecile just fine.
Douglas Murrray is brilliant. his videos should have millions of views .
He is brilliant because he speaks from experience and by having boots on the ground, something most of us would NEVER entertain doing.
You’re awesome, Douglas!
Why does anybody give somebody as toxic and dishonest as cenk a microphone? Yikes!
No, I’d keep him on the mic, this is pure comedy 🤣
It’s actually tragic really. Somebody close to him, possibly a family member needs to sit him down and have a word 🤣
For the clicks my friend, for the clicks...
Agreed, but I'm glad they do because it shows how foolish his positions are.
He’s a slimmer, Turkish Chris Christie.
Millions of imbeciles think like Cenk...they need to be heard so we know how to deal with them.
Damn, I wish this could have been longer. I’ve been waiting to see Douglas put Cenk in his place.
Why would anyone take the time to debate Cenk? Doesn’t seem sincere anytime I listen to him. Great job by Douglas.
I agree and he is crow or joker
Exactly
@@lilyannal5159 Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks!
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians.
@@lk80630 Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks!
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians.
why would anyone take the time to debate a bought and paid for propaganda mouthpiece like Murray
Cenk: "We get 5 billion views a year." Douglas: "Oh wow, everyone on Earth? Wow." LOL
No fan of Chunk, but just on UA-cam, 6.5 billion views... Total
@@Getsitdone since channel inception in 2005. Not per year.
Douglas, I wish you hadn't sunk to ad hominem ever. You didn't need to.
@@VesnaVK Me too at first but honestly these people parroting HAMAS talking points need to be shamed in every way.
@@HillyPlays but it doesn't shame a moron like Cenk, and it doesn't convince people on the fence. It just gives give people a reason to say, as Piers did, both of you have stopped to insult and ad hominem today.
This has to be the biggest roast I’ve seen in my life 👀 Cenk go home bro 😂😂
Douglas Murray, the voice of truth and humanity ❤
Murray is an absolute BEAST!
I hope Israel makes DM a Righteous Among the Nations after this war
It's gonna happen, but give it time.
As it says...
_„For everything there's a time, and for all matters under the sky.“_
We remain at one with this:
*Let us not back down against evil.*
He supported the Iraq war
We already have 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
@@randomhuman2595 If even true, so what?
You completely destroyed him
I am so glad that you are in this world Douglas. Thank you for doing what you do.
Douglas is an outstanding journalist! His perspectives on the war are consistently thoughtful and honest.
Cenk got dunked on. I say that as a person that has watched Cenk for well over a decade on TYT.
Cenk is too emotional. Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks!
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians.
Thanks Douglas we need more of you to speak on our behalf against these propagandists
Douglas Murray, so eloquent,so easy to understand and follow his explanations. Israel must defend itself.The other fellow makes no sense at all.
Piers Morgan and Douglas Murray are agents of Israeli intelligence
Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks!
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians.
@@HusseinDoha you are 100% correct. the only thing you missed: He is intentional in his misrepresentation and is being payed handsomely for it.
Chunk Yogurt is definitely not smart enough to Douglas Murray
Nobody is smarter than Douglas. He is there, on the ground...not in their bedrooms.
Chunk Yogurt, 🤣😂😂, I think I just wet myself, great name.
He likes animals too...more than he should allegedly 😂
He represents their people - barking only instead of talking
@@lf9341 Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks!
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians.
I have read " War on the West" by Douglas Murray. One of the best accounts of the madness that is invading our society.
I agree. A wonderful book. No college course on the subject could have been better. And today you would be hard pressed to find a college course to illuminate the truths that DM does in this well documented book.
full of misconceptions and fallacies@@carolrebeccareiss8968
Douglas Murray is amazing, I love the way he reels out the facts! Cenk was totally belligerent and just appeared bamboozled by Douglas Murray’s comments.
He has very clear mind. High IQ
Absolutely Cenk only knows how to attack by being beligerent. He's pathetic.
@@user-gw5zr4ng9q Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks!
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians.
Douglas owned this debate so easily!
Sadly some people do seem to take Cent seriously. His ignorance about Fatah is common in the US.
Angry Murray is the best version of Douglas Murray
I agree, but this time he went full blown ad hominem which is not what we know and love him for...
@@bimonsolivar8898True, but it was only after he was provoked and realized that his conversational partner was not playing by the rules and is just a vulgar, uneducated street scrapper.
@@jaysmith7613
True . Jenk showed his lack of class , saying outrageously slanderous things and showinghimself to be "beneath" normal rules of civil discourse.
Douglas had the utmost contempt for him - it was a disgrace from Jenk .
@@jonathanspencer4834Cenk is a common Middle Eastern ideologue raised on antisemitism of which there are literally billions. Douglas knows them well, can predict their arguments, and is quite tired of this specific type of sophistry.
@@jaysmith7613 Forget about Cenk who’s an awful speaker. Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks! The neighbouring countries send aid and fill the coffers of the Palestinian Authority with money. Qatar alone invested billions in Gaza before the war. But they will NOT help Israel empty Gaza of Gazans! Egypt took in refugees from neighbouring countries like Sudan and Libya. But they know that Israel offers no guarantee to make Gazans return after the war, so fool me once! … Israel has a labour shortage so they hire Palestinian workers (ironically they devastated their economy by military occupation), Egypt doesn’t have labour shortage.
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians. Israel has a labour shortage so they take in Palestinian workers, but Egypt doesn’t have a labour shortage.
As always, BRAVO Mr Murray!!!
Douglas's triumphant smirk at the end of this clip is glorious!
Love when Cenk gets upset and falls back on the ogre voice! All credibility gone in a second.
You mean any possibility of it, lol
Imagine thinking you are intelligent enough to take on Douglas Murray
Dunning-Kruger
Good on you Douglas for telling the truth. Thankyou 😘
The only smart take comes from Douglas!! ❤
The other guys only yells and tells lies. He is very annoying! 🤢
Murray is nice and civil until provoked by ignorance, which in his book is NOT bliss. Other buffoon is an empty vessel in a suit.
Douglas Murray is a giant among men, intellectually and morally. It is thrilling that this man is in the world, taking on the nonsense merchants with facts and oh, such superior intellectual and linguistic skills. I just watch a DM put-down when I need a lift in this mad world.
Wow cenk talking out of his ass during the whole debate but piers still called him articulate? 😂😂 wtf 😂 were we watching the same debate!?!? I love how calm and collected and ACTUALLY articulate Mr Douglas was. Cenk could learn a lot from Douglas if he wasn’t so insecure and hateful. 🤷♀️🇮🇱 stay mad Cenk.
Cenk is not a good speaker because he’s too emotional. But Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks!
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians.
Wow, Cenk really lost it at the end there
Let's not forget. The only genocide happened on October 7th.
good job
Funny how the Jewish population across the middle east has effectively dropped to zero. Millions dead, quietly.
Yet we only hear the word genocide in our media once the jews shoot back.
Whatever Palestinian whom you see as a sympathetic ally and kindred spirit in Gaza wasn’t killed by the Jews. Hamas beat them to it while the western world and Israel were distracted in the tragedy of the Israelis and westerners slaughtered at a music festival and, if they survived, taken hostage.
Those whom remain are the ones Hamas considered on their side. Thats whose left.
FACTS
no, absolutely not
And in world war 2 against the Jews
I really admire Douglas Murray
This tragedy happened because Hamas had set traps for the Israelis more than once. These soldiers thought it was a trap
Exactly, this was the one thing I missed Douglas saying. But him and Shapiro are really on another level of covering the background on this conflict, we shall not forget this responsibility.
Thank you for stating this. Yes exactly, the traps are everywhere.
The Soldiers are totally surrounded by danger and the immediate threat of death....
@@EncourageLegacyTraps? 😂please stop it! … Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks!
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians.
@@elikesselman6825Traps? 😂 Is that the excuse? 🤭 … Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks!
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians.
100% behind what you said, Douglas. Great job!
God Bless you, Douglas!
Cenk is so utterly beneath Douglas, it's hardly a fair debate when it's one brain cell against an entire cerebellum. Good for views though! get 'em Piers
It's his whole show. Feigning an open minded debate show but never bring in fair opponent. It would have been a much different debate if say Christopher Hitchens were still alive or Naom Chomsky were still young enough. While I am firmly on Israel's side, I don't like this kind of false debate.
Never seen the young genocide denier Turks I see
@@norbitcleaverhook5040Why “firmly” on Israel’s side? ….. Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks!
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians.
That's right!
@@LucyHowell-wb6nu Forget about Cenk who’s an awful speaker. Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks! The neighbouring countries send aid and fill the coffers of the Palestinian Authority with money. Qatar alone invested billions in Gaza before the war. But they will NOT help Israel empty Gaza of Gazans! Egypt took in refugees from neighbouring countries like Sudan and Libya. But they know that Israel offers no guarantee to make Gazans return after the war, so fool me once! … Israel has a labour shortage so they hire Palestinian workers (ironically they devastated their economy by military occupation), Egypt doesn’t have labour shortage. And his last point that a solution can be that Egypt or coalition of Arab nations to run Gaza or Fatah (the PA) were all shut down by Netanyahu.
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians. Israel has a labour shortage so they take in Palestinian workers, but Egypt doesn’t have a labour shortage.
I bet Douglas was licking his lips when Piers paired him with this joke. He took "Chunk" to deep waters and drowned him..That smirk at the end said it all.
Yep!!!!!!!
You know he didn’t need prep time for this interview and probably studied Cenk. Douglas absolutely destroyed him.
Amazing Douglas Murray! Always a pleasure to watch. Excellent knowledge and analysis of the subject. The other one on Hamas' side looks ignorant and childish
Lucky this wasn’t conducted in America, Douglas. The 13th amendment makes it illegal to own someone like that.
*chef’s kiss* 😂
Hahaha ...great comment Austin
That is a fantastic comment! I’m stealing it. I’ll give you credit though.
@@AmericahasbecomeSouthPark Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks!
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians.
@@CaptainDarrick Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks!
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians.
It’s amazing that Douglas was talking about a solution for Palestine and the palestian people with a realistic proposal.. being governed by successful moderate Islamic countries so they can thrive in peace..for palestians to have peace they need to get rid of hamas and have a government that wants to live and thrive in its own state.. otherwise this will keep happening.. the man’s response was to ignore that and say Douglas enjoys baby’s dying.. what a ridiculous statement.. that’s all he had to say about any of it..
Cenk doesn't care about solutions or about the Palestinian people .
He's not a serious person - he's a shouty egomaniac who cant give Douglas an ounce of credit for ANYTHING he might say ..
He's going for a self interested "win" . He doesn't care about the plight of Palestinians .
Douglas hit a nerve , and we saw Cenks ludicrous response .
@@jonathanspencer4834 exactly that
Thats what Kushner/Trump was on the way to accomplish with the Abraham Accords. ua-cam.com/video/co_MeKSnyAo/v-deo.htmlsi=gkaFc0qYs4GSx9uW
@@Sensiseagal Forget about Cenk who’s an awful speaker. Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks! The neighbouring countries send aid and fill the coffers of the Palestinian Authority with money. Qatar alone invested billions in Gaza before the war. But they will help Israel empty Gaza of Gazans!
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians.
@@HusseinDoha if Israel left them alone . Would they leave Israel alone ? I doubt it .. they want Israel destroyed whatever and however benevolent Israel are .
This is a problem going forward .
Clearly they had different educations. Douglas is supremely logic and articulate. His arguments were not only precise but also supported by useful/rich information - especially helpful to listeners who don't know much about the history of the conflict. On the contrary, Cent has few weak arguments based on unreliable data and virtually no supporting evidence.
Despite of the heated words, Douglas is obviously more likable than Cent: he looked younger and better looking. His "outrageous" expression was more towards astonishment than disgust or fury. Cent was just angry, raising voice, and making me cringe.
Cenk has a law degree. Murray wrote college essays about tulips, unicorns and the effects of the Treaty of Westphalia on canal tolls in the Duchy of Mecklenburg.
@@busterbiloxi3833 Don't forget you've also insulted his homosexuality. You should include that with every ad hominem.
Douglas, you are amazing man 😊 such a brilliant mind, it's a privilege to listen to you always!!!
Obsessed with Murray 👑👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 What a legendary genius
Cenk triggers me so much with his ignorance, thank you Mr Murray for having the patience to discuss anything with him.
Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks!
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians.
@@HusseinDoha Not sure why you adress me with all this, but all I can say is: there are so many things wrong with your statement and I don't have the time to discuss these with you. Because in my experience so far, pro-palestine people are immune towards any facts or arguments. They keep going on and on and on about the same old prejudices against Israel/jewish people and there is literally nothing you can say to convince them that they are wrong. If you make a valid point, they will divert the discussion to something else, if you raise a valid question they will get aggressive. If you ask to concentrate on the events of the 7th October they will insist on including what happened in 1948, if you ask them to see the whole picture, they will insist on focussing on one single event. At the end, Hamas just wants to kill all jewish people and eradicate Israel as a whole and however you try to paint it, that's the plain truth. It's the old middle eastern mentality of "throwing the stone and hiding your hand", and you can use as many lightbulb emojis as you like, it won't change anything on the fact that Hamas want to destroy Israel and they won't stop trying unless they are made to stop. So I am really thankful that people like Mr. Murray have taken it upon themselves to keep having this discussion over and over, as I wouldn't have the patience to repeat stuff. Much peace and much compassion for the innocent victims of Hamas to you, sir.
Clear victory to Douglas Murray.
Good job Douglas , Love from Iran
Go Douglas! 👏👏👏
The voice of reason, logic and knowledge.
Great articulate and intelligent answers to the same old stupid questions about Israel.
But how many times do you need to explain this to these people?
Quoting HAMAS statistics about dead Palestinians, it's so tiring.
This moron must make the IDF look like murderers of "innocent Gazans".
Apparently, the idiots who stick to the "genocide" narrative will fight against truth until the end. Keep up your great work.
Thank you from Israel.
💙🤍💙🤍
It’s the progressive left position that made me switch to Republican
Me too.
Bro I don't even recognize fellow progressives anymore. I think I got moved to liberal or independent or something simply because they passed me by on the radical arguments
I love Douglas Murray. He gives me hope. He WIPED the floor with him! I would like to see a debate with #partoftheproblem
I love Douglas Murray
This Cenk guy is awful!!! Well done Douglas Murray!!
Cenk was so predictable as all the pro-Palestine people are. It happens in all the debates and it really annoys me. They talk about the numbers of Palestinian casualties and say it's more than the amount of people Hamas killed on the terrorist attack on 7/10.
Both are sad, that innocent lives were taken. However!!! Let's always differentiate. Lives lost in war is sad. But, terror attacks are different. It's not just sad but it's evil!!!!!!!!! Stop putting them in the same category.
Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks!
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians.
Cenk is a simpleton. As usual Cenk tries to speak the most time but doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Douglas is the GOAT
Thank you Douglas ❤🇮🇱🇮🇱
Murray you destroyed this junk Cenk dude 😂 Amazing 🇩🇪✝️✊🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
It’s a bliss to see a countryman in a place like this. I’d like to advise you, good sir/ma’am, to check out Douglas’s books. You’ll find them most insightful, I’m sure. Especially his book on The Strange Death of Europe.
@@theanalyticsyntheticdichot4404 thanks for the recommendation! 👍🏼
You do realise that many christians are murdered and churches are bombed by Israelis?
Douglas won this debate 💯 pro-Palestine supporters propaganda falls apart when faced with facts not “opinions” & “dead babies”
Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks!
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians.
@@HusseinDoha Simply, Muslim occupiers return the Middle East, North Africa and Asia Minor to Christians
The majority of Gazan's voted for Hamas knowing what Hamas stood for.
The majority of Gazan's have supported Hamas's action upto October 7th 2023.
The majority of Gazan's publicly celebrated the massacre on October 7th 2023.
The ranks of Hamas are made up of 100% of Gazan's. 🤔
Forget about Cenk who’s an awful speaker. Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks! The neighbouring countries send aid and fill the coffers of the Palestinian Authority with money. Qatar alone invested billions in Gaza before the war. But they will NOT help Israel empty Gaza of Gazans! Egypt took in refugees from neighbouring countries like Sudan and Libya. But they know that Israel offers no guarantee to make Gazans return after the war, so fool me once! … Israel has a labour shortage so they hire Palestinian workers (ironically they devastated their economy by military occupation), Egypt doesn’t have labour shortage.
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians. Israel has a labour shortage so they take in Palestinian workers, but Egypt doesn’t have a labour shortage.
Douglas 10 x Cenk 0 ! Bravo, Douglas!!
God bless you Douglas!!
I love Douglas more every time i see him!
I am with Douglas Marry 💯
Once upon a time I used to watch Cenk, occasionally. Even then I didn't really like him. Since then he has discovered his true talent, being a bully. I agree that he isn't anti-Semite, he just wants to "eliminate Israel".
Good luck to this imbecile in trying to bully Murray, lol
Forget about Cenk who’s an awful speaker. Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks! The neighbouring countries send aid and fill the coffers of the Palestinian Authority with money. Qatar alone invested billions in Gaza before the war. But they will NOT help Israel empty Gaza of Gazans! Egypt took in refugees from neighbouring countries like Sudan and Libya. But they know that Israel offers no guarantee to make Gazans return after the war, so fool me once! … Israel has a labour shortage so they hire Palestinian workers (ironically they devastated their economy by military occupation), Egypt doesn’t have labour shortage.
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians. Israel has a labour shortage so they take in Palestinian workers, but Egypt doesn’t have a labour shortage.
Give credit where credit is due. The Young Turd has been consistent in resorting to sixth grade playground insults for more than a decade.
Douglas entered ultra-instinct mode in this debate.
I adore Douglas....from Greece.
I adore this man so much for his invincible intellect.
Unfortunately, superior intellect has no chance against invincible ignorance.
I'm so grateful for your work, Douglas.
Thank you for your courage, brilliancy and why not, guts to give some of your precious time and mind, to that dispicable piece of crap.
The wisdom of boots on the ground and by being in the Mecca to gain a clear perspective on the conflict. Murray is not a suit who whines from the comfort of his home, X account, phone-that would be too easy for him. Hence the reason he, Murray, started off by stating his opening remarks. No one can compete against the Murray’s years of experience on the ground.
Wow, what a "merry Christmas" debate, passions are truly burning this time! But sincerely - kudos to Douglas for holding up and staying calm!
"The Hamas-controlled Gaza Health Ministry does not distinguish between civilian and combatant deaths" per google. 8,000 civilians my arse.
Just take the deaths of women and children, and the figures are very high and unusually high. Israel takes Gaza’s Health Ministry figures and subtract women and children, then call all males as combatants. That can’t be true!
Forget about Cenk who’s an awful speaker. Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks! The neighbouring countries send aid and fill the coffers of the Palestinian Authority with money. Qatar alone invested billions in Gaza before the war. But they will NOT help Israel empty Gaza of Gazans! Egypt took in refugees from neighbouring countries like Sudan and Libya. But they know that Israel offers no guarantee to make Gazans return after the war, so fool me once! … Israel has a labour shortage so they hire Palestinian workers (ironically they devastated their economy by military occupation), Egypt doesn’t have labour shortage. And his last point that a solution can be that Egypt or coalition of Arab nations to run Gaza or Fatah (the PA) were all shut down by Netanyahu.
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians. Israel has a labour shortage so they take in Palestinian workers, but Egypt doesn’t have a labour shortage.
Thank you Douglas Murray! I hope, the World will hear you, as it doesn't want to listen to us.
International standards of war is 5 civilians to 1 combatant so Israel is doing a great job compared to every other civil world army
Facts
@@XharelNot true! They label every man killed as combatants! That can’t be true. They use Gaza’s ministry of health figures which breakdown deaths by sex and age.
Forget about Cenk who’s an awful speaker. Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks! The neighbouring countries send aid and fill the coffers of the Palestinian Authority with money. Qatar alone invested billions in Gaza before the war. But they will NOT help Israel empty Gaza of Gazans! Egypt took in refugees from neighbouring countries like Sudan and Libya. But they know that Israel offers no guarantee to make Gazans return after the war, so fool me once! … Israel has a labour shortage so they hire Palestinian workers (ironically they devastated their economy by military occupation), Egypt doesn’t have labour shortage. And his last point that a solution can be that Egypt or coalition of Arab nations to run Gaza or Fatah (the PA) were all shut down by Netanyahu.
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians. Israel has a labour shortage so they take in Palestinian workers, but Egypt doesn’t have a labour shortage.
Cenk seriously is so predictable with his views and opinion.
Cenk is too emotional. Douglas gets several things wrong.
(1) Who can guarantee Gazans and Egypt, that Israel will allow Gazans to return, if they left Gaza during the war?? Israel doesn’t allow those who were displaced in 1948 war to return. So, no thanks!
(2) Douglas overestimates Israel’s good well. The current coalition government has people who fantasise about wiping Palestinians out of their land, and talk openly about attrition policies to do that goal like maintaining military occupation in the West Bank, and increasing and expanding settlements to drive Palestinians mad and out of their homes.
(3) Israel have long abounded even pretending to care about civilians. Half of the bombs were unguided “dumb bombs”. Just hours after October 7, they started bombing almost every high rise buildings in Northern Gaza. You want to tell me that the Israeli intelligence agencies that had no clue about October 7 attacks, suddenly knew
were to hit? The killings of three Israeli hostages in absurd circumstances when they were shirtless and waving a white flag shows you how utterly reckless they are. If they were Palestinian civilians, they would have just been dismissed and falsely labelled as “terrorists”.
All in all, 💡Palestinians don’t want to live under military occupation.💡 They don’t to live under martial law. 💡They don’t want to be controlled by Israel. 💡They don’t want to beg for a permit to visit another Palestinian towns and cities. 💡They don’t want to go through these insane checkpoints whenever they move around.💡They don’t want to ask for permission to gather in a group of 10 or more even in their own homes.💡They want to fish freely. They want to open up their seaport and have an airport. 💡They are tired of all the land theft. Leave them alone! 💡 Israel is making their lives miserable to force them to leave.💡
It’s worth noting that there are decent Israelis, specially the folks working for B’Tsleem who care about ending military occupation and helping Palestinians.
Chunk nothing but a "low- rent raysist". Douglas is the man of le mot juste! 😂❤