Hey Datto, I noticed you put a disclaimer during the Hawksaw section, so I thought I would share the roll on one I got from the crucible that has just been melting people. I bought the vendor one to compare and it's night and day between the two. SPO-28 for the TA, Perfect Balance, Headseeker, and Rifled Barrel. The extra range takes care of the already subtle damage drop off, and aiming for the neck on the first shot allows for a lighting fast 3 burst kill. Thank you for all work you put into this channel!
Got this yesterday (before I saw this), and instantly won my next control match with highest overall score - it was so fun to use. Glad it's got your stamp of approval!
Hey Datto , I was wondering (a bit late , I know) , I have a Radial PSm with Icarus and explosive rounds with every range scopes (close , medium , long) and I really like it , the explosive rounds are enjoyable. So should I buy Hung Jury ? Or is my Radial PSm good enough ? (it have a 298 attack)
Hey Datto, I heard on the Destiny subreddit that The Vanity's firefly perk was causing players games to crash. Have you heard/seen anything to confirm this?
For the raid, would a hard-hitting LMG be more efficient compared to the bullet hose variant? Or would a bullet-hose style LMG have a better DPS on the bosses?
Something to note with The Vertigo, with year one heavy ammo boots, you only get 1 extra rocket in PvP. If you have year two rocket ammo boots, you don't get any additional rockets at all in PvP.
I love side arms in PvP, I can't tell you how many times I've run out of ammo in my primary and had to chase after the enemy so I just take out my side arm and hipfire them from ground or air. They have amazing hipfire accuracy even while airborn. Or another favorite is sliding in while hipfiring.. Works wonders.
Datto if you took a look at the perks on the vender hawksaw you would notice appended mag and smallbore. So appended mag increases your mag size for a cost of reload and smallbore increases range and stability (the two most important stats) for a cost of mag size. So you end up with an extra burst in the mag, more stability, more range, for the cost of having a slower reload. And the Hawksaw already has a great base reload speed.
I totally agree with you about the Hung Jury. To be honest it's the only weapon in TTK that I've bought from the vendors. I've had Last Extremity and Not Like The Rest drop for me several times with decent perks, but the HJ trumps them both. I've dismantled quite a few 1000 Yard Stares because of the crummy rolls they had. I managed to have one drop a few days ago with Hidden Hand and Unflinching and that's the one I'll be keeping. Rocket launchers have been a little underwhelming for me. I did manage to snag a Choleric Dragon with a maxed out blast radius and several good perks (Grenades and Horseshoes, Javelin and Tripod). I use it on my Titan with the Taikonaut helm equipped for the Tracking bonus. Of all the factions New Monarchy has been the only disappointment. I tell everyone at work who plays Destiny to concentrate on DO and FWC for the time being since their wares are by and large the best in the game.
Here my favorite and best legendary weapons so far in TTK. 1) Red Spectre with crowd control, hidden hand and rifled barrel (+ range - reload speed) 2) The Vertigo with cluster bombs flared magwell and javelin 3) Nightfall quest reward fusion rifle Long Far Gone with surronded (pve) , eye of the storm (pvp) and quickdraw. 4) Byronic hero with outlaw and grenadier. 5) Raid heavy machine gun with crowd control.
Hey Datto, will you ever make a video regarding the status and quality of the Raid weapons for King's Fall? Personally, these weapons feel really weak compared to previous raid weapons, but that's just me.
My brother wanted a good pulse rifle so I told him the hawksaw was his best bet. He isn't an above average player in crucible but I was watching the kill feed rack up with doubles and triples the entire game. It is seriously a great weapon, and he highly recommends it.
+Kyle Batschkun he was asking why everyone's saying it not what it means dumbass. And no, the only weapon that I know of that was overpowered for a little bit was the gjallahorn, which is fixed now
My first legendary engram in TTK turned into a 1000 Yard Stare with shortgaze/ambush, last resort, hand laid stock [ no snapshot :( ], then hidden hand. Sniping is what i do and i do it well, the game blessed me within the first hour of TTK with that gun, I may have actually found a replacement for my ldr.
PaleoContact auto rifle from Dead Orbit is amazing! 38 round mag, awesome scopes, rangefinder, third eye, and some perks that further range or stability. It is a great long range auto rifle! Havn't tried it in PvP (I use Hard Light) but in PvE its amazing
+IamWinkly I have it and can confirm that this is true. Plus here are bunch of others from reddit with same problem...www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3lvpyi/sga_do_not_use_the_firefly_perk_on_the_future_war/
What role was the sidearm supposed to fill again? I just can't seem to understand why someone would take a sidearm, when a shotgun could do it's role better. It just seems like it'll never see any real use. I have a lot of fun with it in PvE, but I'd never seriously use it for strikes and stuff.
Villainy? But it's just a regular pulse rifle without serious advantages :) I have one with a bit different perks and i can say that in PvP it loses to "Red Death" just because it deals less damage that can leave your opponent alive with a tiny amount of health, but you will be dead. So if you want to spend your marks for a pulse rifle just buy "Red Death" from blueprints, or just wait when gunsmith will offer you "Lyudmila-D" on the date of armsday. P.S.: Datto, and what about Apple of Discord from vendor: it has headseeker, full auto and hand laid stock. Offcourse the first version that can be obtained from Zavala not works in PvP, but hand laid stock can probably fix a recoil.
Datto are you going to do a year 2 exotic weapon tier list? Also you missed burden of proof from new monarchy which is basically a new dry rot-32/baby 4th horseman.
I actually like my Hung Jury more than my raid scout rifle... such a great gun. And it was the first thing dead orbit gave me the day TTK came out and I leveled up my faction. Beast
for PvP, a great alternative to Conspiracy Theory-D, depending on playstyle, is the New Monarchy shotty. I have with Close and/or Personal, with arms that increase melee speed, AND fast twitch on my hunter. it's a rushing BEAST!!!! Bonus if you can get a range boosting perk too (I only got one in the 1st tier row... but ive seen some that match CT-D's range too)
Personally, I love the vendor Dealbreaker. It's got serious punch, and I find that it fires slowly enough that it's easy to keep on target (even at longer ranges than you'd expect) without the stability perk, which costs you more than 20% of your magazine.
You probably missed the Not Like The Others Scout from the Vanguard. It comes with both Reactive Reload and Crowd Control, so only your very first couple of shots will be doing standard damage, any other shots will be getting a boost. It has lackluster stability and you are almost forced to use Feather Mag to take advantage of the main perk, but it is a seriously brilliant Scout Rifle. Not sure if it can outright compete with the Hung Jury in PVE, but it demolishes it in PVP.
Thanks for the video buddy. That Hung Jury is great. Your opinions on the raid weapons would be welcomed by me in a separate vid if you felt like it. :)
I got 2 dealbreakers. First with Crowd Control + Feeding Frenzy + Smallbore (very good boost to stability and range, a small penalty to reload speed and magazine (23 bullets, instead of 26)) and second one with Focused Fire + Army of One + Braced Frame\Hand Loaded\High-Caliber Rounds Vanity is only weapon I bought from vendor, its mag is 9 with extended mag bonus
i have a 1000 yard stare with triple tap and improved target acquisition, it goes evenly with my hereafter in pvp, one of the best snipers in this game by far.
Datto will you do a Raid Weapon Review. Ive fallen in love with the Pulse Rifle and Sniper. They are my mains for the Raid and seem to get the job done, today we did the Raid all bosses killed in 2 damage phases and Oryx the 4 in like an Hour.
I can right now say that Righteus VII is an absolute beast, and I've gone on a 20 kill streak using only this gun, with the help of grenades and stuff... The gun is my go-to weapon when I need my team to catch up! :)
With the vendor Hung Jury you can slap extended mag and bring it to 20 shots, and because of Triple tap if every shot is precision, like if you're fighting a boss it goes to 30ish. The only problem is if there's a light source on your left the gun becomes a flash light and blinds you.
the hawksaw kicks some serious ass in pvp. if you have some stability perks it's a three burst headshot kill. the rate of fire is pretty quick too. but the stability is where it excels
New Monarchy shotgun The Burden of Proof is amazing....now looking at the perks on the vendor weapon I see why it wouldn't make the cut. But if you get this as a drop with nice perks it's a top tier shotgun (crowd control, flared mag., and final round ) was the drop I was lucky enough to get
This is basically everything great about the Vision of Confluence, but now add firefly on top of it" Did you forget it's capacity for a 30 round clip, 3 more than VoC's, 10 of those being free bullets? Did you forget its better base range, stability, and reload? Did you forget its better optics? Did you forget it's faster equip speed? I think it's safe to say this is a pretty good weapon for pve
Interesting little fact about Havoc Pigeon: It has a slower RoF compared to other sidearms like the NM Conviction II. I haven't done enough testing to tell if Conviction II is just a really fast-firing sidearm compared to the others, but it's a very noticeable difference in speed. It's even weirder that all of the sidearms have maxed out RoF, but I can guarantee you that is NOT the case.
yup, impact and RoF are identical to dry rot. the vendor one is perfect. it has full auto and the option to choose between Rifled Barrel and Reinforced Barrel, which both boost range. It has Aggressive Ballistics too
+K BISH I picked it up the other day, is REALLY good in my opinion, not sure how it compares to The Next Big Thing (didn't even consider it cos of the horrendously loud paint job). I love pairing it with Melting Point on my sunbreaker, getting a melee in then just emptying my mag into the major enemy, pretty much nothing survives.
+K BISH I think 4 of the 6 New Monarchy weapons are worth consideration of purchase. The sidearm may be be the best vendor sidearm; the perks are outstanding, including Reactive Reload, which gives the biggest damage buff of weapon perks. The sniper rifle has very good PvP perks. The shotgun looks like a great PvE shotgun. And the LMG is of course very strong for a vendor weapon, although I personally don't need it after hitting the lottery on a RNG Ruin Wake (Smart Drift Control, Counterbalance, Reinforced Barrel, and Crowd Control). The hand cannon looks terrible. The auto rifle looks OK thanks to having a range perk but is probably not the best available option.
I had the great luck of rolling a Villainy with Fitted stock and Spray and play. With a Pulse Riffle Loader on my raid chest piece, this Pulse is lightning quick and keeps its precision at longer range. It's comparable to the Allfate IMO (which use to be my favorite ;-)
Wish you had mentioned the shotgun from new monarchy - it's the dry rot from last expansion, comes with full auto, though it does have one fewer shot in the magazine. It mows through majors, even minotaurs with their void shields :) Definitely my go to shotgun for pve, though I'd never bring it to the raid lol.
want a great raid set up? use bad juju, and 1000 yard stare. bad juju mows down all tier 1 adds easily (especially those that clone themselves) while increasing your super. the stare is great for majors and you will have your new OP subclass super (subreakers you know what I mean) to wreck everything else. use whatever heavy you want, it doesn't matter you're already a beast now. if you want god mode run this all with a sunbreaker titan with ruin wings. the wreckage is hilarious and scary powerful. RIP Oryx and all who served him.
appended magazine will not work on a side arm with 15 shots. I have a Jabberhakke with that bonus and was excited for a sidearm with more than 15 shots. However the perk does nothing but decrease your reload speed. So you might as well look at other bonuses
pretty much everything works wonders with this :D i so abuse it to just tether a large group of thralls and then just slice one of them with my sword :D
Hey Datto about the sidearms. I use the vanguard one because I got zen moment and outlaw, as well as a perk that kicks the magazine size up to 18. I forget what it is called. However, if I didn't have such a good roll I doubt I would ever use sidearms
You failed to mention both the appellant II new monarchy hand cannon, and the Not Like The Others vanguard scout rifle. The appellant has a very good RoF/impact, good stability, and fantastic reload speed. The only problem is its range, which is why it has a perk that boosts it when your health is low, and it has life support to get your health back up to normal. The Not Like The Others is hands down the best pvp and pve scout rifle I have ever seen. It has reactive reload, crowd control, and explosive rounds. In crucible if you find yourself with both bonuses active, it will 2 shot people. In pve you will have a damage bonus basically all the time.
How can you not even mention Not Like The Others Vanguard scout? With both reactivate reload and crowd control, it proxs for 50% damage buff. It's an absolute pvp must have.
FINALLY, someone acknowledges the overpowered hung jury sr4. I've been using that shit since like day two of the taken king. Best vendor weapon hands down
There is another "new" fate bringer called Imago loop that you can get from the vanguard heroic strike but the only strike it can drop from is the undying mind but because of no more reforging you have to keep on doing the strike until you get the right perks ( firefly and danger close).
My PvE loadout currently... Hung Jury SR4 1000-Yard Stare Exotic Sword Love both my primary and secondary. Also love the sword, but feel like I need something else for the raid.
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Hey Datto, I noticed you put a disclaimer during the Hawksaw section, so I thought I would share the roll on one I got from the crucible that has just been melting people. I bought the vendor one to compare and it's night and day between the two. SPO-28 for the TA, Perfect Balance, Headseeker, and Rifled Barrel. The extra range takes care of the already subtle damage drop off, and aiming for the neck on the first shot allows for a lighting fast 3 burst kill.
Thank you for all work you put into this channel!
episode sum up YOU NEED RANK 3 DEAD ORBIT
+Technolocic Yup, but who doesn't at this point in the game if you got it when it first released.
+Technolocic This comment made me laugh
+Technolocic You misspelled FWC.
Cole Mitchell thanks
Katoma Mundara lol
Got this yesterday (before I saw this), and instantly won my next control match with highest overall score - it was so fun to use. Glad it's got your stamp of approval!
This is where it started
Hey Datto , I was wondering (a bit late , I know) , I have a Radial PSm with Icarus and explosive rounds with every range scopes (close , medium , long) and I really like it , the explosive rounds are enjoyable. So should I buy Hung Jury ? Or is my Radial PSm good enough ? (it have a 298 attack)
Thank you for a consistent quality you are by far the best.
Hey Datto, I heard on the Destiny subreddit that The Vanity's firefly perk was causing players games to crash. Have you heard/seen anything to confirm this?
I got a Suros Dis-43 scout with perfect balance, counter balance and speed reload. Things awesome.
yeah, apparently armsday weapons will have the same perk rolls on it for everybody who bought the gun
Quick question. Is having Danger Close + Grenades and Horseshoes on a Rocket Launcher a bad thing?
For the raid, would a hard-hitting LMG be more efficient compared to the bullet hose variant? Or would a bullet-hose style LMG have a better DPS on the bosses?
Something to note with The Vertigo, with year one heavy ammo boots, you only get 1 extra rocket in PvP. If you have year two rocket ammo boots, you don't get any additional rockets at all in PvP.
I love side arms in PvP, I can't tell you how many times I've run out of ammo in my primary and had to chase after the enemy so I just take out my side arm and hipfire them from ground or air. They have amazing hipfire accuracy even while airborn. Or another favorite is sliding in while hipfiring.. Works wonders.
True words spoken
Datto if you took a look at the perks on the vender hawksaw you would notice appended mag and smallbore. So appended mag increases your mag size for a cost of reload and smallbore increases range and stability (the two most important stats) for a cost of mag size. So you end up with an extra burst in the mag, more stability, more range, for the cost of having a slower reload. And the Hawksaw already has a great base reload speed.
I totally agree with you about the Hung Jury. To be honest it's the only weapon in TTK that I've bought from the vendors. I've had Last Extremity and Not Like The Rest drop for me several times with decent perks, but the HJ trumps them both. I've dismantled quite a few 1000 Yard Stares because of the crummy rolls they had. I managed to have one drop a few days ago with Hidden Hand and Unflinching and that's the one I'll be keeping. Rocket launchers have been a little underwhelming for me. I did manage to snag a Choleric Dragon with a maxed out blast radius and several good perks (Grenades and Horseshoes, Javelin and Tripod). I use it on my Titan with the Taikonaut helm equipped for the Tracking bonus. Of all the factions New Monarchy has been the only disappointment. I tell everyone at work who plays Destiny to concentrate on DO and FWC for the time being since their wares are by and large the best in the game.
Here my favorite and best legendary weapons so far in TTK.
1) Red Spectre with crowd control, hidden hand and rifled barrel (+ range - reload speed)
2) The Vertigo with cluster bombs flared magwell and javelin
3) Nightfall quest reward fusion rifle Long Far Gone with surronded (pve) , eye of the storm (pvp) and quickdraw.
4) Byronic hero with outlaw and grenadier.
5) Raid heavy machine gun with crowd control.
Hey Datto, will you ever make a video regarding the status and quality of the Raid weapons for King's Fall? Personally, these weapons feel really weak compared to previous raid weapons, but that's just me.
My brother wanted a good pulse rifle so I told him the hawksaw was his best bet. He isn't an above average player in crucible but I was watching the kill feed rack up with doubles and triples the entire game. It is seriously a great weapon, and he highly recommends it.
uhhhh... Burden of Proof??? OP Shotgun for pve
its from New monarchy
Yeah I was wondering where it was. That shotgun is a monster, it's the new Dry Rot.
burden of proof is a pve beast. fully agree
+EpicGuille ya "OP" means Over powered
+Kyle Batschkun he was asking why everyone's saying it not what it means dumbass. And no, the only weapon that I know of that was overpowered for a little bit was the gjallahorn, which is fixed now
My first legendary engram in TTK turned into a 1000 Yard Stare with shortgaze/ambush, last resort, hand laid stock [ no snapshot :( ], then hidden hand. Sniping is what i do and i do it well, the game blessed me within the first hour of TTK with that gun, I may have actually found a replacement for my ldr.
Where did you get your 1000 yard stare with shortgaze which quest gives you that
PaleoContact auto rifle from Dead Orbit is amazing! 38 round mag, awesome scopes, rangefinder, third eye, and some perks that further range or stability. It is a great long range auto rifle! Havn't tried it in PvP (I use Hard Light) but in PvE its amazing
Don't the perks on the vendor weapons change regularly with inventory updates?
No mention of the risk of your game crashing while using the FWC HandCannon?
What risk? How?
+Andrew Denneno Firefly is bugged and can cause game crashes.
+IamWinkly since when?
+IamWinkly I have it and can confirm that this is true. Plus here are bunch of others from reddit with same problem...www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3lvpyi/sga_do_not_use_the_firefly_perk_on_the_future_war/
+AlphaXOmega since pretty recently. I'd say in the last 2 weeks or so.
What role was the sidearm supposed to fill again? I just can't seem to understand why someone would take a sidearm, when a shotgun could do it's role better. It just seems like it'll never see any real use. I have a lot of fun with it in PvE, but I'd never seriously use it for strikes and stuff.
I'll never forgive you for that Hawksaw comment.
I need a good legendary PvP pulse rifle which can be infused. Any advice?
Datto, can you review some of the new weapon perks, specifically guerrilla fighter? I'm not sure how to proc it and if it's worth using on a weapon
The Burden Of Proof XI is pretty beast, I love it.
Isn't the Vanity (FWC hand cannon) bugged? There was a reddit post about the Vanity's firefly perk crashing the game. Pretty sure it's happened to me.
Villainy? But it's just a regular pulse rifle without serious advantages :) I have one with a bit different perks and i can say that in PvP it loses to "Red Death" just because it deals less damage that can leave your opponent alive with a tiny amount of health, but you will be dead. So if you want to spend your marks for a pulse rifle just buy "Red Death" from blueprints, or just wait when gunsmith will offer you "Lyudmila-D" on the date of armsday.
P.S.: Datto, and what about Apple of Discord from vendor: it has headseeker, full auto and hand laid stock. Offcourse the first version that can be obtained from Zavala not works in PvP, but hand laid stock can probably fix a recoil.
Datto are you going to do a year 2 exotic weapon tier list? Also you missed burden of proof from new monarchy which is basically a new dry rot-32/baby 4th horseman.
I actually like my Hung Jury more than my raid scout rifle... such a great gun. And it was the first thing dead orbit gave me the day TTK came out and I leveled up my faction. Beast
Dont you get conspiracy theory d with awesome perks from a quest? If so what is the quest called
This is exactly what I needed! Thank you Datto!
DattoDoesDestiny would you run Hung Jury over full auto Doom of Chelchis?
for PvP, a great alternative to Conspiracy Theory-D, depending on playstyle, is the New Monarchy shotty. I have with Close and/or Personal, with arms that increase melee speed, AND fast twitch on my hunter. it's a rushing BEAST!!!! Bonus if you can get a range boosting perk too (I only got one in the 1st tier row... but ive seen some that match CT-D's range too)
Hawksaw is amazing. Fires so smoothly.
Hi datto are you going to create a weapon tier list for ttk because I don't have many shards and am looking to do the best for my time
Personally, I love the vendor Dealbreaker. It's got serious punch, and I find that it fires slowly enough that it's easy to keep on target (even at longer ranges than you'd expect) without the stability perk, which costs you more than 20% of your magazine.
I really like the an answering cord. Probably one of the best for PVP
You probably missed the Not Like The Others Scout from the Vanguard. It comes with both Reactive Reload and Crowd Control, so only your very first couple of shots will be doing standard damage, any other shots will be getting a boost.
It has lackluster stability and you are almost forced to use Feather Mag to take advantage of the main perk, but it is a seriously brilliant Scout Rifle.
Not sure if it can outright compete with the Hung Jury in PVE, but it demolishes it in PVP.
Thanks for the video buddy. That Hung Jury is great. Your opinions on the raid weapons would be welcomed by me in a separate vid if you felt like it. :)
I got 2 dealbreakers. First with Crowd Control + Feeding Frenzy + Smallbore (very good boost to stability and range, a small penalty to reload speed and magazine (23 bullets, instead of 26)) and second one with Focused Fire + Army of One + Braced Frame\Hand Loaded\High-Caliber Rounds
Vanity is only weapon I bought from vendor, its mag is 9 with extended mag bonus
Isn't havoc pigeon a better pvp sidearm? Saw hovey usin it :p
What vendor is the best overall? if one were to pick one for everything?
i have a 1000 yard stare with triple tap and improved target acquisition, it goes evenly with my hereafter in pvp, one of the best snipers in this game by far.
I LOVE the havoc pigeon, it's incredible.
Datto will you do a Raid Weapon Review. Ive fallen in love with the Pulse Rifle and Sniper. They are my mains for the Raid and seem to get the job done, today we did the Raid all bosses killed in 2 damage phases and Oryx the 4 in like an Hour.
I can right now say that Righteus VII is an absolute beast, and I've gone on a 20 kill streak using only this gun, with the help of grenades and stuff... The gun is my go-to weapon when I need my team to catch up! :)
With the vendor Hung Jury you can slap extended mag and bring it to 20 shots, and because of Triple tap if every shot is precision, like if you're fighting a boss it goes to 30ish. The only problem is if there's a light source on your left the gun becomes a flash light and blinds you.
how would you compare the 1000 yard stare to Stillpiercer?
How can you skip the new monarchy shotgun. Full auto, decent range and impact. Like what I'd pick that over the crucible one any day
Great information Datto, you're the man.
the hawksaw kicks some serious ass in pvp. if you have some stability perks it's a three burst headshot kill. the rate of fire is pretty quick too. but the stability is where it excels
New Monarchy shotgun The Burden of Proof is amazing....now looking at the perks on the vendor weapon I see why it wouldn't make the cut. But if you get this as a drop with nice perks it's a top tier shotgun (crowd control, flared mag., and final round ) was the drop I was lucky enough to get
I miss my longbow synthesis. firefly and mulligan. Absolutely amazing.
This is basically everything great about the Vision of Confluence, but now add firefly on top of it" Did you forget it's capacity for a 30 round clip, 3 more than VoC's, 10 of those being free bullets? Did you forget its better base range, stability, and reload? Did you forget its better optics? Did you forget it's faster equip speed? I think it's safe to say this is a pretty good weapon for pve
Found a ruin wake with smooth ballistics, spray and play, perfect balance and hidden hand. Not exactly disappointed with it
Interesting little fact about Havoc Pigeon: It has a slower RoF compared to other sidearms like the NM Conviction II. I haven't done enough testing to tell if Conviction II is just a really fast-firing sidearm compared to the others, but it's a very noticeable difference in speed. It's even weirder that all of the sidearms have maxed out RoF, but I can guarantee you that is NOT the case.
Where do you get only 2-3 shots extra for the scout..? If you hit em al in the crit spot you get 7 extra shots....
The hung jury is definitely amazing, I have it but I also have the hawksaw, which I used pushing for worlds first kings fall and it was a solid gun
Is there anywhere else I can buy gear? Because all my current guns have 287+ attack, so these are kinda a downgrade.
heard of infusion?
Aaron Mcclure What's that?
+Perry oh my..
Perry the answer
Aaron Mcclure Still didn't answer my question.....
was watching some dude named Gondo Does Destiny, been playing since the alpha. Guy knows his stuff and doesn't act ignorant to fans..
+Lance Allen Please spit out what you are trying to say.
I got a scout rifle from the shield brothers strike called Threads upon stars. Is it better then the dead orbit scout?
+False Vex depend on the perks
Its all about the perks... I got one too but it had absolute shit perks
The perks on my scout are Life support and grenadier
+False Vex nope dead orbits much better :)
+False Vex hung jury unless you get will of light or firefly on treads
What about the new monarchy shotgun it's basically a dry rot
+asdfwasd1 I got mine with danger close, full auto :D
yup, impact and RoF are identical to dry rot. the vendor one is perfect. it has full auto and the option to choose between Rifled Barrel and Reinforced Barrel, which both boost range. It has Aggressive Ballistics too
+Jarod MIller full auto is buns
would you buy a vanilla Hung Jury if you already got one with the rolls - snapshot, grenadier, and life support??
Firefly >
+BrainwreckDestiny True. Ugh, can't bring myself to drop another 150 marks but i KNOW it's the right thing to do. baaaah
+Maac N Cheese haha, in the same boat
New monarchy shotgun?
yea no monarcay
+Anthony Banaana English?
+K BISH I picked it up the other day, is REALLY good in my opinion, not sure how it compares to The Next Big Thing (didn't even consider it cos of the horrendously loud paint job). I love pairing it with Melting Point on my sunbreaker, getting a melee in then just emptying my mag into the major enemy, pretty much nothing survives.
It's a beast really high rate of high really high range and it's very overpowered you need to pick it up
+K BISH I think 4 of the 6 New Monarchy weapons are worth consideration of purchase. The sidearm may be be the best vendor sidearm; the perks are outstanding, including Reactive Reload, which gives the biggest damage buff of weapon perks. The sniper rifle has very good PvP perks. The shotgun looks like a great PvE shotgun. And the LMG is of course very strong for a vendor weapon, although I personally don't need it after hitting the lottery on a RNG Ruin Wake (Smart Drift Control, Counterbalance, Reinforced Barrel, and Crowd Control).
The hand cannon looks terrible. The auto rifle looks OK thanks to having a range perk but is probably not the best available option.
How did you get that shader for your titan?
I had the great luck of rolling a Villainy with Fitted stock and Spray and play. With a Pulse Riffle Loader on my raid chest piece, this Pulse is lightning quick and keeps its precision at longer range. It's comparable to the Allfate IMO (which use to be my favorite ;-)
The new monarchy shotgun is amazing, I'm surprised u didn't include it :)
I have really good upgrades on hacksaw so I agree with the subtitle at 1:48
Villany by far the best gun u can purchase, and it has great perks on it
Lol you only have that weapon right?
xD
I got the villany with the body shots will make precision shots give more damage(forget the perk)
+Matthew Plays headseeker
Second best* have you seen the hung jury???
What's the best hand cannon? or the best weapon class for taken king
Completely agree that the Hung Jury is by far the best scout rifle from a vender
I have a hung jury without that stat roll.So does that mean I won't ever get the roll?
Nice and concise. Thank you!
What was up with your weapons glitching on your back during you walking??????
Wish you had mentioned the shotgun from new monarchy - it's the dry rot from last expansion, comes with full auto, though it does have one fewer shot in the magazine. It mows through majors, even minotaurs with their void shields :) Definitely my go to shotgun for pve, though I'd never bring it to the raid lol.
No mention of the New Monarchy shotgun?
My 1000 yard stare with ambush site, firefly, army of one, QuickDraw will be hard to be replaced by anything
I got the Hung Jury in a package from Dead Orbit. Great gun!
want a great raid set up? use bad juju, and 1000 yard stare. bad juju mows down all tier 1 adds easily (especially those that clone themselves) while increasing your super. the stare is great for majors and you will have your new OP subclass super (subreakers you know what I mean) to wreck everything else.
use whatever heavy you want, it doesn't matter you're already a beast now. if you want god mode run this all with a sunbreaker titan with ruin wings. the wreckage is hilarious and scary powerful. RIP Oryx and all who served him.
I'm so glad I found a Patch A with full auto!
I have a Hawksaw with Rangefinder, fitted stock, and smallbore. It is an amazing weapon!
My Patch-A is beast, has full auto and grenadier. Love using it
I think The Smolder is a great rocket launcher, tripod+grenades and horseshoes+ taikenaut with tracking! beast mode.
Thank you so much for this Datto
appended magazine will not work on a side arm with 15 shots. I have a Jabberhakke with that bonus and was excited for a sidearm with more than 15 shots. However the perk does nothing but decrease your reload speed. So you might as well look at other bonuses
hey Datto i was wondering if you could make a video talking all about the strike exclusive loot. that would be great if you could
Side arms work spectacularly with blood bound shadowshot.
pretty much everything works wonders with this :D
i so abuse it to just tether a large group of thralls and then just slice one of them with my sword :D
Datto....you forgot the Burden of Proof!! That thing destroyssss
Hey Datto about the sidearms. I use the vanguard one because I got zen moment and outlaw, as well as a perk that kicks the magazine size up to 18. I forget what it is called. However, if I didn't have such a good roll I doubt I would ever use sidearms
You failed to mention both the appellant II new monarchy hand cannon, and the Not Like The Others vanguard scout rifle.
The appellant has a very good RoF/impact, good stability, and fantastic reload speed. The only problem is its range, which is why it has a perk that boosts it when your health is low, and it has life support to get your health back up to normal.
The Not Like The Others is hands down the best pvp and pve scout rifle I have ever seen. It has reactive reload, crowd control, and explosive rounds. In crucible if you find yourself with both bonuses active, it will 2 shot people. In pve you will have a damage bonus basically all the time.
Can you do another video on the sword? I have the guard perk activated but it will never guard, need help
How can you not even mention Not Like The Others Vanguard scout? With both reactivate reload and crowd control, it proxs for 50% damage buff. It's an absolute pvp must have.
FINALLY, someone acknowledges the overpowered hung jury sr4. I've been using that shit since like day two of the taken king. Best vendor weapon hands down
The vanguard scout, crowd control, explosive rounds, reactive reload
There is another "new" fate bringer called Imago loop that you can get from the vanguard heroic strike but the only strike it can drop from is the undying mind but because of no more reforging you have to keep on doing the strike until you get the right perks ( firefly and danger close).
are you ever going to do like the challenges on bosses again
My PvE loadout currently...
Hung Jury SR4
1000-Yard Stare
Exotic Sword
Love both my primary and secondary. Also love the sword, but feel like I need something else for the raid.