I did it once when I was sherpa-ing people through the raid, wanted to teach them the legit method so at least 5 guardians knew how it was SUPPOSED to be done and actually used that method. I still cheese it though because it's easier. I hate myself for it
@@fort809 i think thats not off the table i think in a article they said they might bring it back as a dungeon emphasis on “might” so take it with a grain of salt.
Raids shouldn't be soloable. Me: Then that means from a canon perspective we Raid with random Guardians since there is technically only 1 player Guardian if the Raids can't be soloed.
I solo'd crota with my Hunter. It was actually one of the things that made me love destiny so much. 6 people could fail time and time again and not be able to complete the raid, but if you really know the raid well enough, you can do it with one person. It was a hidden challenge that really made the game fun
You didn't know the Knights don't spawn? People have basically been jumping from the rock on lamp 2 up to this part and standing on the rock at the bridge. The Ogre still spawns and you have to kill it before it shoots you, but the thrall leave you alone and you can just run over the bridge. People are basically solo'ing/cheesing the abyss in like 5 minutes using this method. Amazing Bungie hasn't patched that cheese yet, lol.
Just figured you would have seen some of the cheesers using it before, lol. Still was funny seeing you trying to get up there, but otherwise was awesome seeing a legit solo on Crota.
Honestly it's fine. Crota himself is so underwhelming compared to VoG that they don't need to patch it. I say this because every time they patch something it inevitably harms the legit players. Here's to hoping HoW is more like VoG than Crota.
ShouVertica why i raided crota: to get to the new level cap and have good weapons at the new attack cap why i STILL raid VoG: because it's fun to do it
Hey Datto, for the sake of avoiding having to scroll through hundreds of comments to find out if someone mentioned it already, I'm going to just quickly mention how to jump the rock near the bridge in the abyss encounter near the final lamp. Just in case your still not sure, you have to approach the rock from the inside, so you'll be in between the lamp and rock. There you will find the lowest point, and you can easily jump onto the rock with even at max weight of darkness. The larger rock parallel to that rock which is near the edge of a drop is also scalable using the same approach point as the smaller rock, except it requires 3 small jumps to the reach the top. Obviously not if you have been cleansed but this is in regards to having full weight of darkness. The larger stone is used in many occasions to have a better field of view when fighting the ogre or ogres in some cases that appear before the bridge forms. Thanks for all the extremely detailed and well thought out, and explained commentary on all your videos, I know exactly how much time goes into producing each segment, so truly, thank you for all your continuous original content. @TheGraphyte
Hey man...I really miss d1, still can’t believe they abandoned, or appear to have abandoned all that great content. But regarding Croat, I absolutely LOVED all the cheese, seriously, loved it. Broke my heart when they “fixed” the heavy glitch (that was so fun). And again broke my heart when they “fixed” Croat in year 3. I know personally, I spent far less time in all the “new, fixed” raids. I guess as an ethos, I feel cheese is healthy and fun...within reason. Anyway, I know his video is ancient, but still, GREAT JOB man.
Atheon himself can be killed playing solo, u need a warlock woth sunsinger, the knockback punch and one of the 3 nades (not sure which one) then you can push him off and that counts as a kill.... If only it didnt take 100 tries before you get it succesfully.
The days when all you had to worry about was copyrighted music... Now you have to worry about if you say 'fuck' once and YT demonitizing the vid. Or just black-listing you altogether... Unless you're corporate protected.
You easily get on the rock even with 10 darkness. Your jumping from the wrong side lol. You jump on from the side the lamp is on. Plus the lamp explosion wont hit you if your in the middle of the rock.
Watching you try to get on the rock as a Destiny veteran is pretty funny. That is the first thing I learned when doing the raid. There is a "ramp" on the other side that you can use even under x10 weight.
I saw someone do this solo unbelievably quick. It's not really a raid if you can finish it by yourself and cheese all of the parts. VoG was a raid because you needed at least 2 people.
Datto i know that the video is about soloing crota and i appreciate you trying to give input on how to make it less likely to be able to solo it. But i think that it would be interesting if you would make a video on improving the crota experience by addressing the bits that fall flat (ir yut, some bits of crota). Those sections are due a lookover to make the raid experience better. Keep up the good work+
***** Maybe, but the problem is most people solo it with Cheese and don't solo it legit. There is so much cheese still in this raid it isn't even funny.
Thomas McConville HM05 has a no-guns solo, IIRC. He uses Sunsinger to do it (might be the only class that could do this due to Radiance spammable grenades)
it is absolutely OP because it deals 2 rockets worth of damage per rocket if fired at a single target or it has the biggest most stupid blast radius if fired on a group due to the tracking of wolfpack also it has a hidden perk that works like proximity detonation although to a lesser extent and we all know that prox rockets are the noob-tubes of destiny
Ali Bakkali since it's only PvE OP it probably won't be nerfed until xur sells it or maybe until HoW raid comes out(after all bungie might want to bump up the difficulty there)
LOL, Datto. You can be on the rock and not die from the lamp explosion. Just sit on the side of the rock opposite the lamp. Also, to get on the rock, I usually jump up the side closer to the lamp and never have a problem.
I know game purists will be mad about the ability to solo, but I think they should leave it in there. Main reason being, not everybody has 5 other people they can get together to run these raids. The penalty for not being able to run it is losing out on the best gear and weapons in the game, plus not being able to fully level up. That's not really fair to those folks ... so if they sat around and figured out how to beat it solo, then they deserve even more props because there's groups of 6 that can't get it done.
I wish it was more like WoW where being overleveled actually meant something. The only time light seriously matters in Destiny in when you're below the encounter threshold. If you're vastly above, it makes significantly less of a difference than if you're vastly below.
oh my god watching a guy that has world 2nds and 3rds under his belt get his ass kicked by a rock was hysterical sorry datto but it was also im with you raids should not be solo-able if you are really good and have two friends that are just as good im fine with a trio taking down a raid but not solo
"hunters use invisibility and stuff... warlocks I don't know how you guys do it" I just bomb the shit out of the joint when there is the mass groups and shotgun my way through. no time to run away from that delicious exp.
I'd rather have a raid be able to be soloed than require a team of 5 or 6 like VoG does. There's always that guy who ends up dieing and ruining everything with the over soul or not taking down his shrieker when he had a clear shot for it. At least on solo you only have yourself to blame and know what shit needs done.
but the entire point of the raid is for it to be a coop 6 man activity meant to bring the best teams together to solve hard puzzles and beat difficult bosses with interesting mechanics it's supposed to be a team effort where everyone pulls their weight...except it's nothing like that and instead it's like you said: it's easier to just solo because you trust yourself not to be stupid.....and that's kinda sad
EnigmacTheFirst now that iron banner comes around once every 2/3 weeks and xur is consistently selling engrams people haven't been buying from me anymore :'( WILL WORK FOR MOTES
Datto, the sword disappears either after 45 seconds without picking it up, or within 30 seconds of picking it up. So you have a total of 15 seconds of time before you can pick up the sword without losing any time. This may help for the bridge encounter.
Its a game Datto... people need the ability to have fun... once again, this is a game. You say all this shouldn't be possible but the fact it is, is a very nice thing and gives a lot of players something to do outside of the rule set people like you think exists. If Bungie didn't want this possible they would of put a min player requirement on the raids, nightfalls and so on. Bungie always had the idea of allowing players to solo content, including raids. You can argue this but bottom line is if Bungie didn't want to they wouldn't of supported it from the start. Like when they balanced Nightfalls, they didn't stop people from Soloing them they just made it slightly harder, which is a good challenge. I don't see a point in picking flaws to a video game that was made by people that may share differing opinions to your own, you don't know what went into the final decision of what should be and not be in the game so you shouldn't be making videos saying the game is broken or should be changed when to a developer its not, in their eye's its going in the direction the wanted, its never perfect and never will be, that's the fault in design, you can always improve. I don't know what happen to you datto but ever since you went all anti cheese you have really changed to a person who picks on small things and missed the big picture. You focus to much on yourself and what you think and never take the time to step back and think maybe this is here for players that aren't like me. Just me little rant, feel free to rip me to pieces as most subscribers on big channels do. Opinions on youtube are like praising the devil in church.
Look I get your opinion on if bungie didnt want it to be soloed they would make it impossible to do. And I never thought of it that way and its a rather good point. Its not like this is world of warcraft were you need a tank and a healer or else yoy will die. Pretty much all damage in this game could be avoided which is why fights that dont require multiple people are solo able. However my only issue with what yoy said is that you criticized datto for sharing his opinion yet you still posted yours its kinda hypocritical.
We'll is hard to avoid critizing some on an opinion when yours differs so strongly. It's possible but it's not my field of knowledge to be able to do so. I understand everyone's comments so far, thanks.
I miss playing destiny with my group, good times on the Xbox one. to those who lost the group after time. i hope everyone is having a good time and is okay.
Master Chef On normal? This is a joke right? I did it a few days after TheHM05 and TheLegendHimself did it. I also did it no cheese. Way before hard mode came out. The hardest part was the abyss lol
Craig Barlow it's still soloable on hard and even if on hard it's actually hard...the way datto sees it it's still broken and regardless of how hard HM actually is that is no excuse for NM to be a cakewalk to solo
I remember playing Destiny on my PS4 a few years ago. One of my friends told me about how Crota's End Soloing was possible which blew my mind. I then spent the next hour or 2 figuring out how and eventually did it myself. Good times.
Not sure if anyone has answered your question with regard to how a Warlock solo's the start but, for me, it's pretty much a combo of the method you've just used. Max out agility for speed, set 2 grenades and increased radiance time. Use Solar grenades for AOE but combine them with Sunbreakers for the longer effect time. Set yourself for extra toughness while active or, if you don't trust yourself, set the self res and use the super as a last resort. Personally, I use Fatebringer to deal with the Thralls as a couple of good crits can destroy an entire pack (add the rapid reload after a kill and you're not worrying about ammo too much). My helmet has "killing minions of darkness increases your super", so the combo of multi-kills and the helmet means I get my super very quickly. Black Hammer is my go to weapon for Ogres and Knights. You can get a good number of crits laced into an Ogre from inside your solar bubble with good ol' Gjal to finish the job. The rest is pretty much exactly as you have done with the Titan except for the kill on Crota himself. I tend to use the rock on the right side of Crota's platform then slap him in the face with a couple of rockets as he peers over the edge looking for me. Jump up, smack him a few times, drop the sword and leg it back to the rock to reload and shoot him again. Jumping up you grab the sword mid run and get some more smacks in before getting outta dodge.
I remember when you just made videos that shared your strategies. You have a talent for explaining parts of the game to help others improve and succeed. Your recent exotic armor videos were terrific. But this video is just elitist junk. I understand that you're looking for an experience so difficult that only a handful of players can complete. Awesome, and good on you. But "broken"? "Broken" means "unplayable". I don't think that's case here. Are almost all players solo-ing the raid? Of course not. There are things in both raids that need fixing, but not what you think.
I agree. The only thing that's broken here is this channel, it's unwatchable. Way to much eletism. Calling a raid "broken" simply becuase it can be soloed is just retarded. Bashing hunters while he runs three titans, I mean come on dude you can't be serious.
If you dont think the crota raid is broken you need your head checked. It is meant to be a 6 man encounter sir. The fact that folks solo it and 2 or even 3 man it says a lot of bungies standards. They dont even care to patch all the cheeses. So yes it is broken in the sense that it has no challenge, it is not fun. Some strikes on lvl 26 are more fun. Im not here to defend datto he can be a dick yes but fact is crota raid is a broken joke. On hard all bungie chose to do was spawn more enemies, no revive, no chalice. Big fucking deal.
J KING Well most of what you said is opinion. CE can be a challenge and at the same time it's real easy. For some people a challenge isn't necessarily fun, so it differs. Stating that everybody thinks CE is broken in this video, I just can't take that seriously. Datto is part of the minority, he has a set raid group who each have their roles and know exactly what to do and even gone to do shotguns only. The rest of us go on lfg when we have the time. For Datto it must be a cake walk but the rest of us know the struggle.
I think the run how it is now is perfectly fine besides a few bugs that hinder your progress in particular the sword falling off the Rock and Crota getting up faster then usual.
I love your video's, don't get me wrong...but you complain too much. Every time you complain, bungie makes something less liked. It's fun to have gear and weapons that are totally broken and awesome. Nice video though. 😉
I did the Abyss with defender Titan, Eidolon Ally, and Nova Mortis. I used my magnetic grenade to clear large clusters of enemies (or stick the knights for easy clear), meleed a thrall for overshield with the perk that allows super quick reload and turned and gunned dawn all the thrall, turned out surprisingly well!
At the last lamp, the rock closer to where the ogre spawns is easier to jump on (and far enough away from the lamp to not get blown up). Also, a Striker Titan can double jump - shoulder charge from the top of the second lamp to the cliff above (I've found that is easier than trying to do it from the rock).
I honestly don't think the entire end of the raid needs to be balanced around the gjallarhorn, a weapon that not everyone even has. Making the gjallarhorn weaker would just make everyone rage and making crota stronger would make it only possible with gjallarhorns. I say it's fine as it is, they just should have made it more like VoG where teamwork was required to win. But as far as Crota's End being soloable, I think it's cool given that it's supposed to have an action movie feel to it.
I like how you didnt think of switching positions to get onto the rock lol. You can basically jump on it from the lamp-side regardless of how high your Weight of Darkness is.
Nice! Just got in to Destiny looking to do some raiding! Also, should I pre-order House of Wolves? Sounds interesting, probably has a really cool raid too when it comes out!
The easiest way to get pass the thralls on a titan is probably by jumping on the rock closest to the wall at the second lamp, once you're on the rock you can jump onto the wall with increased height. Once you're past that part you can go towards the circle thing that will spawn the bridge. Equip Helmet of Saint-14 and Zhalo supercell + increased duration of ward of dawn. Just stand in your bubble with armour of light and hold down the trigger, the bridge should spawn before your 2nd Ward ends
I understand you point dattoo; some of which I agree some I don't. However I enjoyed watching this video and hearing your commentary. Props to you sir - keep up the good work!
I used Sunbreaker to get up to Crota, and got stuck. I should have switched to defender...thanks for this Datto. Sunbreaker can get a LOT of speed buffs which come in handy.....everywhere lol.
Soloing Crota is pretty fun...Being a solo player I take pride in challenging myself and knowing the ways around nightfall and jazz. And yes on all three characters. Here are some tips for ppl who have yet to solo this electric hive master....For hard mode you have to run a sub class that regenerates health. Void walker, hammer, blade dancer. Lanterns...bow, hammers, emperor palpateen. jump on the rock or the thin slit/pilar where the bridge starts. Making way across the bridge is probably the hardest part as you could form the bridge by stepping on and off or you can equip your highest aligility/ height class and jump across swinging away. For ir yut celestial nigh hawk does the trick. hammers and stormcallers are great. For Crota the one thing you need is telesto - it does damage on impact and the delayed void burst give you a chance to get off another shot for constant damage. Make sure to have the larger mag perk as missing a shot can be costly. I'm sure everyone is aware of the right rock strat. thats where you get him to walk, shoot him with telesto pick up the sword and if you time it right by the time you get up there hes about to kneel. I don't like going back to mid/inside so i stay bottom right chamber. regen health and draw the sword...once he starts to make his way back (from walking aorund the stage) kill the sword and repeat telesto strat. I only bring him down once each sword. On the 3rd sword orgers will pop up (2) in the chamber where you were at and the left chamber. if its normal I believe they come mid. MG and nades usually do it for me. note that if you kill them there is a delay for the sword to spawn and if you kill the sword and pick it up theres a chance crota will start moving and your chance to kill him the final third time is gone. its better to kill the ogers let crota walk about and as he gets back. take the sword and telesto... Stick around till endgame/match stats as you can still get a y1 exotic Hope this helps! See you guys in Rise of Iron!
Great video Datto! This topic has me torn though. Whilst I agree that you shouldn't really be able to solo a raid, I love doing solo speedruns! They are a really cool fun, highly challenging activity that keeps me interested in the game, even though I have kinda seen it all, done it all. It reminds me of doing Dark Souls speed runs and I love it!
I'm surprised that datto didn't know the rock cheese. every time I do the raid someone does it, and I didn't think it was that difficult to get on. and I'm pretty much a noob.
I just run icebreaker. Reach the lamp and quickly blow them up using the icebreaker perk. This is extremely helpful with the lightweight perk. Also saint plus armor of light provides a free lamp. When you reach the lamp start punching the thrall. This should get you another super by the next lamp or so.
Datto, I personally believe that bungie created Gjallarhorn to be a trump card vs. bosses. It isn't necessary to nerf it, but maybe make it a hard exotic bounty, something along the lines of the difficulty of thorn mixed with the variety of invective. But that's just my opinion, nice video as always!
Bungie has announced the next expansion after the Comet this fall. This time rather than new areas to explore and new story missions you will get the same ones from a different perspective. You get to play as the aliens that are trying to kill us and start from the Ultra at the end of the level and go to the beginning swapping from one character class to another to place them in strategic locations to kill the guardian(s) as they proceed through the level. To enable this you get four new slots at the character selection screen for the Fallen, Hive, Vex, and Cabal. The reward for leveling up in addition to playing the harder story missions and raids will eventually allow you to do a strike on the tower when you reach Dark level 32 but it is mostly a defensive based style. The twist that is in this expansion is that you are substituting yourself for the game's ai in missions other guardians are doing. The more advanced weapons are being kept under wraps for now but the image for the frenzy claws for Thralls look very promising. Oh yeah. April fools but it would be a great idea Bungie hint hint nudge nudge wink wink.
!3:20 The real problem IS the sword. A single guardian can deal a lot of damage to crota with it. And then, the raid actually is easier to solo than to do it with a raid group. The bridge takes 5 minutes if you are alone and you dash across the big hole in the centre instead of forming the bridge.
Advice for jumping on the rock you touch the pad first. then go to the lamp. takes 5-8 darkness b4 getting to 10. going from that lamp just after a sword knight should run to the left path to get to the pad then touch it. and more agility does help along with +2 agilty perk on a shotty.
Yea had that discussion a few days ago (you should always be able to complete a goal you shouldn't be removed if everyone dies, that's not a recreational game that's work).
My friend and I tried Crota's End by ourselves with Year 3 gear. We got to Crota and tried killing him. We gave up. We realized we'd be there all day trying to drain his health.
I've soloed the abyss as a Titan. I did cheese my way through the lamp by getting up on the ledge from the second lamp then went on the second larger rock and took down the ogre with Gjallarhorn and Black Hammer. Don't have the patience to do the rest. Anyway, Slayerage did this thing solo in 12 minutes.
Icebreaker is very OP for the lamps, u can "firefly" with bodyshots. Also you can outmatch thralls's speed without spend a single skill in agility. Sorry for the english
I just hang around the rock next to the last lamp, snipe the Ogre, and then just lie down, rest, and when it's time to go, dash off. And I tend to get to that rock before the lamp explodes just so the Weight of Darkness doesn't become much of a problem.
Datto I really respect you giving a small "shoutout" to the top solo raiders especially with your view on shoutouts. Thanks for being a top guy :)
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I have ran crota 100+ times and many times solo and I have never done the bridge encounter legit
I did it once when I was sherpa-ing people through the raid, wanted to teach them the legit method so at least 5 guardians knew how it was SUPPOSED to be done and actually used that method. I still cheese it though because it's easier. I hate myself for it
I've only done it legit after the nerfs and I still needed Flawless Raider
Paul lowkey same hahah
Hahah I don’t even know how to do it legit
My brother has soloed crota 1000+ times im not joking
I don't even know how to do it legit I just solo'd it everytime
Crotas end was the easiest, most broken raid in D1. But it was also the most fun memories I have from the game.
Little did the young Datto know, just around the corner with ttk dropping, you could now tank the oversoul with a sword block
TheDeadPoolLife what
Endless Bliss blocking with a sword was enough to survive the over soul
I did Crota's End yesterday and I had a sword the entire time, and we got killed multiple times because of the Oversoul. Wtf.
Is this still a thing after D2 dropped?
Hoover is it still possible to do the bridge encounter with hunter or is it patched in 2019?
In retrospect, Thank you Bungie for the first ever Dungeon lolol
I kinda really wish bungie would bring back CE as a dungeon at the same time they eventually bring back KF
@@fort809 bring them back as one raid?
@@greenlukesky4615 the two combined would be a bit too long imo.
@@fort809 i think thats not off the table i think in a article they said they might bring it back as a dungeon emphasis on “might” so take it with a grain of salt.
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Keep in mind that there are people who can't beat Crota with 6 people :P
And keep in mind that even these 6 people who cant do the raid still are cheesing :P
Still to this day, I know there's new players, but it's the simplest raid
what about the people who don't have friends to do raids with
tapewormrage rip
lmao let those 6 ppl try kings fall xD
For Crota, I personally prefer using the "Ethernet Class".
Meezala Mazala Very true
I use the ‘’Free Robux Malware” class
Datto: "Raids shouldn't be solo-able."
People like me who don't have friends who play Destiny 1 on Xbox: *Screams in lonely*
Omg same
legacy play wouldn't suck if there were more people
Raids shouldn't be soloable.
Me: Then that means from a canon perspective we Raid with random Guardians since there is technically only 1 player Guardian if the Raids can't be soloed.
its funny how most of his complaints were applied to the 390 crotas end
LET ME SMELL UR BREATH still can solo on warlock tho
@@lilgrozzy197 mhm yeah i always solo this raid on my warlock
I solo'd crota with my Hunter. It was actually one of the things that made me love destiny so much. 6 people could fail time and time again and not be able to complete the raid, but if you really know the raid well enough, you can do it with one person. It was a hidden challenge that really made the game fun
Can you still do it? I keep getting stuck at a part of the bridge like there's an invisible wall there
You didn't know the Knights don't spawn? People have basically been jumping from the rock on lamp 2 up to this part and standing on the rock at the bridge. The Ogre still spawns and you have to kill it before it shoots you, but the thrall leave you alone and you can just run over the bridge. People are basically solo'ing/cheesing the abyss in like 5 minutes using this method. Amazing Bungie hasn't patched that cheese yet, lol.
TeKnoVKNG23 I've never done it! Took me 6 tries to figure out how to get on the damn thing.
Just figured you would have seen some of the cheesers using it before, lol. Still was funny seeing you trying to get up there, but otherwise was awesome seeing a legit solo on Crota.
Honestly it's fine. Crota himself is so underwhelming compared to VoG that they don't need to patch it. I say this because every time they patch something it inevitably harms the legit players.
Here's to hoping HoW is more like VoG than Crota.
ShouVertica why i raided crota: to get to the new level cap and have good weapons at the new attack cap
why i STILL raid VoG: because it's fun to do it
The Speaker Seriously, I just completed HM the other day with some friends and it was a blast.
Hey Datto, for the sake of avoiding having to scroll through hundreds of comments to find out if someone mentioned it already, I'm going to just quickly mention how to jump the rock near the bridge in the abyss encounter near the final lamp. Just in case your still not sure, you have to approach the rock from the inside, so you'll be in between the lamp and rock. There you will find the lowest point, and you can easily jump onto the rock with even at max weight of darkness. The larger rock parallel to that rock which is near the edge of a drop is also scalable using the same approach point as the smaller rock, except it requires 3 small jumps to the reach the top. Obviously not if you have been cleansed but this is in regards to having full weight of darkness. The larger stone is used in many occasions to have a better field of view when fighting the ogre or ogres in some cases that appear before the bridge forms. Thanks for all the extremely detailed and well thought out, and explained commentary on all your videos, I know exactly how much time goes into producing each segment, so truly, thank you for all your continuous original content.
@TheGraphyte
That feeling when you can't solo the raid in year 2. ;(
Lmao seriously?
nope. The thralls in the abyss just destroy me on like the third lamp.
Mr Mingles what system
xbox one
if u have zhalo supercell its op af for abyss
Hey man...I really miss d1, still can’t believe they abandoned, or appear to have abandoned all that great content. But regarding Croat, I absolutely LOVED all the cheese, seriously, loved it. Broke my heart when they “fixed” the heavy glitch (that was so fun). And again broke my heart when they “fixed” Croat in year 3. I know personally, I spent far less time in all the “new, fixed” raids. I guess as an ethos, I feel cheese is healthy and fun...within reason. Anyway, I know his video is ancient, but still, GREAT JOB man.
He predicted the age of triumph bridge encounter :vv
This video popped back up on my feed after Destiny 2s version of Crota. Saw the title and was like WTFFF
My friend solos Crota every week now. Won't shut up about how incredibly easy it is. Crota's End is a fairly poor raid in comparison to VoG.
How does he solo atheon then?
It isn't possible to solo Atheon without being a sunsinger, and some people would consider that cheese.
Atheon himself can be killed playing solo, u need a warlock woth sunsinger, the knockback punch and one of the 3 nades (not sure which one) then you can push him off and that counts as a kill.... If only it didnt take 100 tries before you get it succesfully.
You aren't going to be doing VoG on anything smaller than 4 man. HM is 5 required pretty much.(for templar).
ShouVertica,
I beg to differ. slayerage 2 manned vault on hard
The days when all you had to worry about was copyrighted music...
Now you have to worry about if you say 'fuck' once and YT demonitizing the vid.
Or just black-listing you altogether... Unless you're corporate protected.
You easily get on the rock even with 10 darkness. Your jumping from the wrong side lol. You jump on from the side the lamp is on. Plus the lamp explosion wont hit you if your in the middle of the rock.
datto pro tip for titan-soloing lamps: armor of light and saint-14 are your friends ;)
Duudee youu are DEEAD
Your frustration clips are friggin hilarious!!! "How?? How do you jump on this stupid rock??" LOL!!!!!
Good job on the solo Datto. :)
Watching you try to get on the rock as a Destiny veteran is pretty funny. That is the first thing I learned when doing the raid. There is a "ramp" on the other side that you can use even under x10 weight.
I saw someone do this solo unbelievably quick. It's not really a raid if you can finish it by yourself and cheese all of the parts. VoG was a raid because you needed at least 2 people.
Brayden Haines The Gorgons Maze doesn't open the exit unless you have 3 people though
Whirl Wind yes it does 😂
it's about time you became one of us :D btw i kind of like having different types of raids, some being soloable, and others not.. i like variety
You played Destiny?
@@cryonics6445 I did :)
Hahaha, I loved the little outtakes at the end! That Crota Teleportation though!!
Datto i know that the video is about soloing crota and i appreciate you trying to give input on how to make it less likely to be able to solo it. But i think that it would be interesting if you would make a video on improving the crota experience by addressing the bits that fall flat (ir yut, some bits of crota).
Those sections are due a lookover to make the raid experience better. Keep up the good work+
Its not broken its a great solo challenge.
Actually it is broken... not a challenge at all
KiDD z In Normal? Definitely yes!
In hard? Hell No
Felipe Thiago he didn't say "Hard Mode"...
***** Maybe, but the problem is most people solo it with Cheese and don't solo it legit. There is so much cheese still in this raid it isn't even funny.
A raid's purpose is to be a 6 man activity that is difficult. Crota's End is not. Therefore broken.
Your crota strat is actually quite awesome datto GG
It's not that G-horn is OP, it's coz crota's shield is weak, I mean u can take it down with warlock Grenades more consistently
1 gjallerhorn rocket= 2 normal rockets. thats OP. there is a reason its the most wanted exotic ingame, and if xur ever sells one its gonna get a nerf
Thomas McConville HM05 has a no-guns solo, IIRC. He uses Sunsinger to do it (might be the only class that could do this due to Radiance spammable grenades)
it is absolutely OP because it deals 2 rockets worth of damage per rocket if fired at a single target or it has the biggest most stupid blast radius if fired on a group due to the tracking of wolfpack
also it has a hidden perk that works like proximity detonation although to a lesser extent and we all know that prox rockets are the noob-tubes of destiny
I once thought gally was good but not game breaking. Then I got it. That thing needs a nerf.
Ali Bakkali since it's only PvE OP it probably won't be nerfed until xur sells it or maybe until HoW raid comes out(after all bungie might want to bump up the difficulty there)
LOL, Datto. You can be on the rock and not die from the lamp explosion. Just sit on the side of the rock opposite the lamp. Also, to get on the rock, I usually jump up the side closer to the lamp and never have a problem.
I know game purists will be mad about the ability to solo, but I think they should leave it in there. Main reason being, not everybody has 5 other people they can get together to run these raids. The penalty for not being able to run it is losing out on the best gear and weapons in the game, plus not being able to fully level up. That's not really fair to those folks ... so if they sat around and figured out how to beat it solo, then they deserve even more props because there's groups of 6 that can't get it done.
I wish it was more like WoW where being overleveled actually meant something. The only time light seriously matters in Destiny in when you're below the encounter threshold. If you're vastly above, it makes significantly less of a difference than if you're vastly below.
oh my god watching a guy that has world 2nds and 3rds under his belt get his ass kicked by a rock was hysterical sorry datto but it was also im with you raids should not be solo-able if you are really good and have two friends that are just as good im fine with a trio taking down a raid but not solo
I love seeing this after Destiny 2. It brings back memories 😁
I hope bungie doesn't listen to u cuz I hv no friends to do the raid with
Destinylfg.net there fixed your problem have a nice day
DemonPope Enterprises ive tried that.. my experiences werent exaclty awesome..
Really works fine for me. Heres a tip either ask for and invite or make your own group. People making a group rarely look for people looking for one.
Mohanad Umari go into 3 towers/reef invite levels 30 to 32 until you get a match worked for me on vault of glass on xbox.
I remember when I couldn’t find a squad so I would rock the exotic lightning sword and invis boy d1 was so fun
:/
WhosMythic omg is that mythic? This is fucking absolutely astounding seeing you here m’lady. #fuckbruhclan lol epic 💯💯🙏😎😎🤩💀💀😭😂🧢😐
"hunters use invisibility and stuff... warlocks I don't know how you guys do it" I just bomb the shit out of the joint when there is the mass groups and shotgun my way through. no time to run away from that delicious exp.
allahu akbar
Oh man I miss this. I remember soloing Crota back in the day or two-manning it with my little brother back when he had Ghallarhorn and I didn't.
I'm gonna solo Crota's end with that snazzy Iron Gjallarhorn ;)
Done!
Those last 4 minutes are some of the best/funniest youtube content I've ever watched! I love how you got so stumped by ...a rock XD
I'd rather have a raid be able to be soloed than require a team of 5 or 6 like VoG does. There's always that guy who ends up dieing and ruining everything with the over soul or not taking down his shrieker when he had a clear shot for it. At least on solo you only have yourself to blame and know what shit needs done.
Exactly
but the entire point of the raid is for it to be a coop 6 man activity meant to bring the best teams together to solve hard puzzles and beat difficult bosses with interesting mechanics
it's supposed to be a team effort where everyone pulls their weight...except it's nothing like that and instead it's like you said: it's easier to just solo because you trust yourself not to be stupid.....and that's kinda sad
The Speaker shut up speaker, no one cares about what you're selling.
EnigmacTheFirst now that iron banner comes around once every 2/3 weeks and xur is consistently selling engrams people haven't been buying from me anymore :'(
WILL WORK FOR MOTES
People solo the nightfall yet have no raids to solo. The nightfalls also give crap. VoG needs a raid for solos
Warlock - Obsidian Helm & Voidwalker Super
Hunter - Dunno.
Titan - You're watching one way of doing it.
i would. if i had a gjallerhorn :(
Datto, the sword disappears either after 45 seconds without picking it up, or within 30 seconds of picking it up. So you have a total of 15 seconds of time before you can pick up the sword without losing any time. This may help for the bridge encounter.
Its a game Datto... people need the ability to have fun... once again, this is a game.
You say all this shouldn't be possible but the fact it is, is a very nice thing and gives a lot of players something to do outside of the rule set people like you think exists. If Bungie didn't want this possible they would of put a min player requirement on the raids, nightfalls and so on. Bungie always had the idea of allowing players to solo content, including raids.
You can argue this but bottom line is if Bungie didn't want to they wouldn't of supported it from the start. Like when they balanced Nightfalls, they didn't stop people from Soloing them they just made it slightly harder, which is a good challenge.
I don't see a point in picking flaws to a video game that was made by people that may share differing opinions to your own, you don't know what went into the final decision of what should be and not be in the game so you shouldn't be making videos saying the game is broken or should be changed when to a developer its not, in their eye's its going in the direction the wanted, its never perfect and never will be, that's the fault in design, you can always improve.
I don't know what happen to you datto but ever since you went all anti cheese you have really changed to a person who picks on small things and missed the big picture. You focus to much on yourself and what you think and never take the time to step back and think maybe this is here for players that aren't like me.
Just me little rant, feel free to rip me to pieces as most subscribers on big channels do. Opinions on youtube are like praising the devil in church.
***** very good comment!!
Nah, you make good points buddy. But I'd have to agree, stating opinions is like praising the devil in church hahaha!
Look I get your opinion on if bungie didnt want it to be soloed they would make it impossible to do. And I never thought of it that way and its a rather good point. Its not like this is world of warcraft were you need a tank and a healer or else yoy will die. Pretty much all damage in this game could be avoided which is why fights that dont require multiple people are solo able. However my only issue with what yoy said is that you criticized datto for sharing his opinion yet you still posted yours its kinda hypocritical.
My point exactly
We'll is hard to avoid critizing some on an opinion when yours differs so strongly. It's possible but it's not my field of knowledge to be able to do so. I understand everyone's comments so far, thanks.
I miss playing destiny with my group, good times on the Xbox one. to those who lost the group after time. i hope everyone is having a good time and is okay.
Do u play d2 tho?
@@jeetbajal8449 not the same, at all
On normal? Yeah, that isn't supposed to the hardest. Do it on hard like less than 5 people in the world have done.
Have you? No. So stfu
Master Chef On normal? This is a joke right? I did it a few days after TheHM05 and TheLegendHimself did it. I also did it no cheese. Way before hard mode came out. The hardest part was the abyss lol
That was my reply too on normal and he's moaning about how broken it is , hard is a different animal
Craig Barlow it's still soloable on hard and even if on hard it's actually hard...the way datto sees it it's still broken
and regardless of how hard HM actually is that is no excuse for NM to be a cakewalk to solo
Definitely more then 5 have soloed the raid on hard. Just not everyone has a UA-cam channel or twitch steam.
Slayerage's world crota kill was insane! best destiny player out there
sc Slayerage did it solo in 12:11!
Hmo5 and Slayerage are unusually good at this game. No guns solo crota is best.
Lono RK So was I! I was taking splits and chat went crazy when he just got up to crota at 10:00. Was such a fun stream to watch
CreeperCrafT Gaming nobody fucking cares
I remember playing Destiny on my PS4 a few years ago. One of my friends told me about how Crota's End Soloing was possible which blew my mind. I then spent the next hour or 2 figuring out how and eventually did it myself. Good times.
lol i literally just got done going solo flawless. this raid is a joke
I do not think you did
i did kid.
Yeah cause your in year two
Not sure if anyone has answered your question with regard to how a Warlock solo's the start but, for me, it's pretty much a combo of the method you've just used.
Max out agility for speed, set 2 grenades and increased radiance time. Use Solar grenades for AOE but combine them with Sunbreakers for the longer effect time. Set yourself for extra toughness while active or, if you don't trust yourself, set the self res and use the super as a last resort.
Personally, I use Fatebringer to deal with the Thralls as a couple of good crits can destroy an entire pack (add the rapid reload after a kill and you're not worrying about ammo too much). My helmet has "killing minions of darkness increases your super", so the combo of multi-kills and the helmet means I get my super very quickly. Black Hammer is my go to weapon for Ogres and Knights. You can get a good number of crits laced into an Ogre from inside your solar bubble with good ol' Gjal to finish the job.
The rest is pretty much exactly as you have done with the Titan except for the kill on Crota himself. I tend to use the rock on the right side of Crota's platform then slap him in the face with a couple of rockets as he peers over the edge looking for me. Jump up, smack him a few times, drop the sword and leg it back to the rock to reload and shoot him again. Jumping up you grab the sword mid run and get some more smacks in before getting outta dodge.
I remember when you just made videos that shared your strategies. You have a talent for explaining parts of the game to help others improve and succeed. Your recent exotic armor videos were terrific. But this video is just elitist junk. I understand that you're looking for an experience so difficult that only a handful of players can complete. Awesome, and good on you. But "broken"? "Broken" means "unplayable". I don't think that's case here. Are almost all players solo-ing the raid? Of course not. There are things in both raids that need fixing, but not what you think.
I agree. The only thing that's broken here is this channel, it's unwatchable. Way to much eletism. Calling a raid "broken" simply becuase it can be soloed is just retarded. Bashing hunters while he runs three titans, I mean come on dude you can't be serious.
If you dont think the crota raid is broken you need your head checked. It is meant to be a 6 man encounter sir. The fact that folks solo it and 2 or even 3 man it says a lot of bungies standards. They dont even care to patch all the cheeses. So yes it is broken in the sense that it has no challenge, it is not fun. Some strikes on lvl 26 are more fun. Im not here to defend datto he can be a dick yes but fact is crota raid is a broken joke. On hard all bungie chose to do was spawn more enemies, no revive, no chalice. Big fucking deal.
J KING Well most of what you said is opinion. CE can be a challenge and at the same time it's real easy. For some people a challenge isn't necessarily fun, so it differs. Stating that everybody thinks CE is broken in this video, I just can't take that seriously. Datto is part of the minority, he has a set raid group who each have their roles and know exactly what to do and even gone to do shotguns only. The rest of us go on lfg when we have the time. For Datto it must be a cake walk but the rest of us know the struggle.
I think the run how it is now is perfectly fine besides a few bugs that hinder your progress in particular the sword falling off the Rock and Crota getting up faster then usual.
This video is full of hypocrisy.
Datto, im really impressed with your "rage" not including any curses lol
I love your video's, don't get me wrong...but you complain too much. Every time you complain, bungie makes something less liked. It's fun to have gear and weapons that are totally broken and awesome. Nice video though. 😉
wow datto the raid just came out and you already solod it thats so rad!
Yo Datto I don’t know if you’ll see this now but watching it makes me realize that the new dungeon boss is a sword bearer just bigger lol
I did the Abyss with defender Titan, Eidolon Ally, and Nova Mortis. I used my magnetic grenade to clear large clusters of enemies (or stick the knights for easy clear), meleed a thrall for overshield with the perk that allows super quick reload and turned and gunned dawn all the thrall, turned out surprisingly well!
At the last lamp, the rock closer to where the ogre spawns is easier to jump on (and far enough away from the lamp to not get blown up). Also, a Striker Titan can double jump - shoulder charge from the top of the second lamp to the cliff above (I've found that is easier than trying to do it from the rock).
I honestly don't think the entire end of the raid needs to be balanced around the gjallarhorn, a weapon that not everyone even has. Making the gjallarhorn weaker would just make everyone rage and making crota stronger would make it only possible with gjallarhorns. I say it's fine as it is, they just should have made it more like VoG where teamwork was required to win. But as far as Crota's End being soloable, I think it's cool given that it's supposed to have an action movie feel to it.
Haha nice vid datto the outtakes were fantastic absolutely hilarious buddy!
Datto, even though this s a late video we have the same type of rage voice and mental state of rage!
I like how you didnt think of switching positions to get onto the rock lol. You can basically jump on it from the lamp-side regardless of how high your Weight of Darkness is.
Awesome run DattoDoesDestiny I am able to solo all the way to Crota but have yet to get the timing down to kill him.
Nice! Just got in to Destiny looking to do some raiding! Also, should I pre-order House of Wolves? Sounds interesting, probably has a really cool raid too when it comes out!
The easiest way to get pass the thralls on a titan is probably by jumping on the rock closest to the wall at the second lamp, once you're on the rock you can jump onto the wall with increased height. Once you're past that part you can go towards the circle thing that will spawn the bridge. Equip Helmet of Saint-14 and Zhalo supercell + increased duration of ward of dawn. Just stand in your bubble with armour of light and hold down the trigger, the bridge should spawn before your 2nd Ward ends
I understand you point dattoo; some of which I agree some I don't. However I enjoyed watching this video and hearing your commentary. Props to you sir - keep up the good work!
I used Sunbreaker to get up to Crota, and got stuck. I should have switched to defender...thanks for this Datto. Sunbreaker can get a LOT of speed buffs which come in handy.....everywhere lol.
Soloing Crota is pretty fun...Being a solo player I take pride in challenging myself and knowing the ways around nightfall and jazz. And yes on all three characters. Here are some tips for ppl who have yet to solo this electric hive master....For hard mode you have to run a sub class that regenerates health. Void walker, hammer, blade dancer. Lanterns...bow, hammers, emperor palpateen. jump on the rock or the thin slit/pilar where the bridge starts. Making way across the bridge is probably the hardest part as you could form the bridge by stepping on and off or you can equip your highest aligility/ height class and jump across swinging away. For ir yut celestial nigh hawk does the trick. hammers and stormcallers are great. For Crota the one thing you need is telesto - it does damage on impact and the delayed void burst give you a chance to get off another shot for constant damage. Make sure to have the larger mag perk as missing a shot can be costly. I'm sure everyone is aware of the right rock strat. thats where you get him to walk, shoot him with telesto pick up the sword and if you time it right by the time you get up there hes about to kneel. I don't like going back to mid/inside so i stay bottom right chamber. regen health and draw the sword...once he starts to make his way back (from walking aorund the stage) kill the sword and repeat telesto strat. I only bring him down once each sword. On the 3rd sword orgers will pop up (2) in the chamber where you were at and the left chamber. if its normal I believe they come mid. MG and nades usually do it for me. note that if you kill them there is a delay for the sword to spawn and if you kill the sword and pick it up theres a chance crota will start moving and your chance to kill him the final third time is gone. its better to kill the ogers let crota walk about and as he gets back. take the sword and telesto... Stick around till endgame/match stats as you can still get a y1 exotic
Hope this helps! See you guys in Rise of Iron!
You trying to get on the rock made my day, it was hilarious
The outtakes were pretty funny. Crota blink strike is OP.
Great video Datto! This topic has me torn though. Whilst I agree that you shouldn't really be able to solo a raid, I love doing solo speedruns! They are a really cool fun, highly challenging activity that keeps me interested in the game, even though I have kinda seen it all, done it all. It reminds me of doing Dark Souls speed runs and I love it!
The blooper reel was the best part.
I'm surprised that datto didn't know the rock cheese. every time I do the raid someone does it, and I didn't think it was that difficult to get on. and I'm pretty much a noob.
i really enjoyed the bloopers and the rock rage....good stuff! :)
I just run icebreaker. Reach the lamp and quickly blow them up using the icebreaker perk. This is extremely helpful with the lightweight perk. Also saint plus armor of light provides a free lamp. When you reach the lamp start punching the thrall. This should get you another super by the next lamp or so.
Datto, I personally believe that bungie created Gjallarhorn to be a trump card vs. bosses. It isn't necessary to nerf it, but maybe make it a hard exotic bounty, something along the lines of the difficulty of thorn mixed with the variety of invective. But that's just my opinion, nice video as always!
Bungie has announced the next expansion after the Comet this fall. This time rather than new areas to explore and new story missions you will get the same ones from a different perspective. You get to play as the aliens that are trying to kill us and start from the Ultra at the end of the level and go to the beginning swapping from one character class to another to place them in strategic locations to kill the guardian(s) as they proceed through the level. To enable this you get four new slots at the character selection screen for the Fallen, Hive, Vex, and Cabal. The reward for leveling up in addition to playing the harder story missions and raids will eventually allow you to do a strike on the tower when you reach Dark level 32 but it is mostly a defensive based style. The twist that is in this expansion is that you are substituting yourself for the game's ai in missions other guardians are doing. The more advanced weapons are being kept under wraps for now but the image for the frenzy claws for Thralls look very promising.
Oh yeah. April fools but it would be a great idea Bungie hint hint nudge nudge wink wink.
Lore wise, makes sense that it is a solo raid
datto, your methods are godly.
Gotta admit, I had a good laugh at the bloopers. Especially when your rocket just blew up in your face. Reaction was priceless xD
As a Warlock for the first part I used Sunsinger and bad juju with solar grenade. Sunsinger recharges your grenades and bad juju regens your super.
I'd have loved it for them to remaster crota as a dungeon in Shadowkeep
!3:20 The real problem IS the sword. A single guardian can deal a lot of damage to crota with it. And then, the raid actually is easier to solo than to do it with a raid group. The bridge takes 5 minutes if you are alone and you dash across the big hole in the centre instead of forming the bridge.
I miss D1 :( Such a nostalgic video
I actually laughed at the bloopers. Good job Datto
Advice for jumping on the rock you touch the pad first. then go to the lamp. takes 5-8 darkness b4 getting to 10. going from that lamp just after a sword knight should run to the left path to get to the pad then touch it. and more agility does help along with +2 agilty perk on a shotty.
Yea had that discussion a few days ago (you should always be able to complete a goal you shouldn't be removed if everyone dies, that's not a recreational game that's work).
the way you do the beggining as warlock is simpley put: bloom, shatter, and obsidian mind
LMFAO at the Datto rage at the end. Trying to jump on the rock was hilarious.
My friend and I tried Crota's End by ourselves with Year 3 gear. We got to Crota and tried killing him. We gave up. We realized we'd be there all day trying to drain his health.
? You kill him with the relic but ok
Oh, Datto... How you have come a very long way since D1.
I agree, Raids shouldn't be able to be solo'd, especially how easy normal Crota's End is. Props for shouting Slayerage.
Congrats Datto!
I've soloed the abyss as a Titan. I did cheese my way through the lamp by getting up on the ledge from the second lamp then went on the second larger rock and took down the ogre with Gjallarhorn and Black Hammer. Don't have the patience to do the rest. Anyway, Slayerage did this thing solo in 12 minutes.
I remember back in d1 glitching out of the boss fight by jumping over all of the props
Icebreaker is very OP for the lamps, u can "firefly" with bodyshots. Also you can outmatch thralls's speed without spend a single skill in agility.
Sorry for the english
I just hang around the rock next to the last lamp, snipe the Ogre, and then just lie down, rest, and when it's time to go, dash off. And I tend to get to that rock before the lamp explodes just so the Weight of Darkness doesn't become much of a problem.