Datto, I'm coming to you now when I need to know what weapons are good. Your input on weapons helps me and my team a lot. I'm so glad you looked at all the scout rifles cuz I basically said the same thing for all of them. great video bro. gave me food for thought on what's my next scout rifle that will win a special place in my inventory
in case people didnt already know, DO NOT infuse your pre-order gjallahorn into the one you get. WAIT till you get a better rocket launcher and then infuse the skin (plus perks). you will have not one...but TWO gjallahorns :) you're welcome....
The Palindrome is SO GOOD. I bought it the first couple of minutes after I got in, and I haven't stopped using it since. There is still a noticeable range fall off because hand cannon max range is lower than any other primary type, but it hits so much harder from long distance than other hand cannons I've used. The only thing I've had to get used to is trusting Spray & Play and firing all the bullets in my magazine rather than trying to reload beforehand.
You sure? I looked at it and the vendor roll only has counterbalance and perfect balance, I crave something like braced frame or some more stability perks.
my first 4 buys were the crucible hand cannon and sniper, the fwc pulse, and the vanguard scout. no regrets yet. the hand cannon and pulse are deadly in pvp.
I really like the Vanguard hand cannon. Luck in the chamber is just generally a good perk and mulligan is good for people coming back to destiny after a long break.
I got a hand cannon called the Ill Will. It's got a near-max impact. It has rangefinder, luck in the chamber, and braced frame. With that it has 5 bullets. It does 95 for a headshot normally and 128 with Luck activating. It might be a bit better than the Palindrome.
I do very well with the waltz pulse rifle from fwc. It's the grasp of malok archetype with rangefinder and perfect balance. It could do better in the other perk slot with armour piercing rounds and lightweight. I like running lightweight though on my max agility hunter because it makes me a deadly speed demon
Datto how in the fuck do you manage to upload so many instructional videos day 1 while still playing the expansion? Do youu have more people working for you already?
I think the vanagaurd pulse is good because it has headseaker, good range, stability, and impact. Also with it having 27 rounds in the mag, it's not a bad buy far someone in need of a primary.
My top picks Crucible: the crucible vendor hand cannon and sniper. Dead orbit shotty. Maybe the fwc hand cannon and maybe the vanguard scout. Pve: vanguard machine gun. Maybe the fwc scout. Personally, that's all I would've put on this list, but I do understand you were being a little more inclusive of different weapon types and niche playstyles.
Idk if I am the only one to pick up on this but event horizon is a 1 shot body shot sniper due to explosive rounds I believe, I haven't downloaded RoI but looking at its stats, and this looks deadly.
Surprised you didn't include the HCs from New Monarchy or the Vanguard vendors. I had a tough time choosing between those and the Crucible HC. I chose the NM one for third eye and higher fire rate and it also has range buffs. Feels pretty good so far. Are you just not a fan of the lower to mid impact HCs?
Best vendor weapon by far is The Waltz by the fwc grasp arc type with a great roll from the vendor in my opinion, but I have one with Outlaw and Glass half full and it seems to do better than my glass half full counterbalance grasp
From what you've shown here it looks like the specific weapon makers have kinda disappeared in this expansion, at least from any of the vendors. I would've thought they'd try and expand on that (like SUROS, Omolon, Hakke), makes me a little sad. And not much sign of Chroma items either, although they may be package specific. I do not own this expansion so I'm only making an observation from this video.
to add to the last ditch 001 crucible has been dropping matador I've had it drop with full auto, hammer forge, and range finder twice. don't know about God rolls but the thing is absolutely dangerous
I laughed when I saw the chaotic neutral machine gun. I thought that would be perfect for my warlock. Because coincidentally my dungeons and dragons warlock is classified as chaotic neutral under alliegence
Yes but it doesn't really matters due to the rate of fire and...aim assist? Dont know but it feels very accurate and easy to use even when its low stability
Are any potential weapon rolls worth switching to New Monarchy? (I have a great Waltz, Wounded, Extremophile(s)) but I really want to wear the exotic NM Mark... Any idea?
I passed on all of the above for now. I figured that a 350 ghost shell and class item would be a better use of day one Legendary Marks. What do you think gives the best bang for the buck on launch day?
Hey Datto!! And to anyone reading this comment. Just got the Keystone 01 in a faction package. I think its a good roll. Please lmk what you think...Full Auto, Third Eye, and Zen Moment.
Word of advice, I would strongly not recommend using braced frame on Day Zero Dilemma, the mag is too small as it is put to a pitiful 18 rounds. I wish the auto rifles were better, all of them are really not worth picking up because of the mediocre or bad choice of perks.
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So there all garbage basically minus the hand cannon, also I was opening packages from fwc earlier and got two of the same rolls in a row same as the vendor version. My question is do the packages only drop the rolls that there selling because if that's the case I'm pissed.
If xur sells an exotic heavy weapon this Friday, remember not to buy it because who wants a exotic in your heavy slot?
i still regret getting those stupid warlock gauntlets to this day lol
Rofl ace
Don't put you're self down
Haha I'm not the only one
What gauntlets?
So...just continue using my Hung Jury?
Basically lolz
Used it the other day and the firefly bug happened. I want to use it but it's so annoying restarting the game.
ditto - I wonder if that's why none of the vendor scouts have firefly?
Best vendor weapon so far, before the role change that is
roll* not role
The original Hung Jury from dead orbit is my favourite vendor weapon.
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SSSniperwolf -Tokyo Ghoul! Ok
Great break down. The palindrome looks great.
it is great
Get t mine with sure shot, triple tap, smallbore, and luck in the chamber. It's godly
+Beastninjakills i got one with reactive reload rifled barrel and hidden hand its also amazbalss
Datto, I'm coming to you now when I need to know what weapons are good. Your input on weapons helps me and my team a lot. I'm so glad you looked at all the scout rifles cuz I basically said the same thing for all of them. great video bro. gave me food for thought on what's my next scout rifle that will win a special place in my inventory
Right as I finish his Ghorn guide, Datto uploads this. LES GO!!!!!
in case people didnt already know, DO NOT infuse your pre-order gjallahorn into the one you get. WAIT till you get a better rocket launcher and then infuse the skin (plus perks). you will have not one...but TWO gjallahorns :) you're welcome....
Thanks
To late...
You can just pick the original gjallahorn up from the exotic blueprints if you want to use it again
I know, I don't really need it tho. I got the beautiful iron ghally.
You can always buy another one but i guess I wasted an exotic shard
I have needed all of this from the exotics to this so I just want to thank you
Thanks for taking the time to make this
thank you sir this is exactly want I came to UA-cam for.
The Palindrome is SO GOOD. I bought it the first couple of minutes after I got in, and I haven't stopped using it since. There is still a noticeable range fall off because hand cannon max range is lower than any other primary type, but it hits so much harder from long distance than other hand cannons I've used. The only thing I've had to get used to is trusting Spray & Play and firing all the bullets in my magazine rather than trying to reload beforehand.
What about the "How Dare You" from the Vanguard.
The New Monarchy auto-rifle is a hidden gem, it melts in rumble.
I swear, almost the doctrine
You sure? I looked at it and the vendor roll only has counterbalance and perfect balance, I crave something like braced frame or some more stability perks.
this is my sticking faction because of this gun,about time we had something better than arminius to easily access
I didn't have any perks unlocked and it still demolished people.
Trust me it melts
The Vanguard Pulse Rifle, Parthian Shot, is outstanding in PvE.
Really? Why?
Can Confirm. Life support+Perf/Rifled is good.
I saw that but seems more pve than pvp
+hector. R. I got the hopscotch from a pvp game it's op tbh pulse rifle
Recent??
Hate how that all have the same models
omfg same
yeah why did they get rid of foundry faction guns eg. hawksaw, hung jury etc
+ShazM Zombies eh
You can get weapons like the hawksaw from just legendarys
I just got a fantastic fwc scout rifle with full auto, triple tap or explosive rounds and firefly. Definitely taking this into the raid
my first 4 buys were the crucible hand cannon and sniper, the fwc pulse, and the vanguard scout. no regrets yet. the hand cannon and pulse are deadly in pvp.
that fwc pulse melts in crucible. started dropping 3.0-7.0 in supremacy a few times last night with that and a matador. it's so sexy.
the waltz? i love mine never farmed for gom so this is a great drop
+jonasthepaladin yep! the vendor roll does great work.
I'd include the grasp of malok type fwc pulse as well. Really solid spread even without counterbalance
I really like the Vanguard hand cannon. Luck in the chamber is just generally a good perk and mulligan is good for people coming back to destiny after a long break.
The sniper is a god roll and it can shut down supers. I want it!!!!!!
Looking back at this video it feels strange how The Wormwood wasn't mentioned...
Guys I have all of the new Rise of iron story mode cut scenes in order in one video if you guys want to check it out:)
Thanks for the work you put in!
Got a Keystone 01 scout rifle with Full Auto + Triple Tap + Firefly from a Dead Orbit package.
This thing is a beast \o/
The dead orbit scout is incredible. I recommend it
Bought the Palindrome when I had 200 marks and don't know what to do with it. This handcannon does not disappoint!
Sweet i bought the Keystone as the rise dropped this morning with out knowing it was good just saw the perks and decided to get it :P
I got a hand cannon called the Ill Will. It's got a near-max impact. It has rangefinder, luck in the chamber, and braced frame. With that it has 5 bullets. It does 95 for a headshot normally and 128 with Luck activating. It might be a bit better than the Palindrome.
Got the palindrome yesterday, best hand cannon ive used
I think a recap at the end of the video would be awesome...just putting it out there
that hand cannon from new monarchy looks like fun with the range and explosive rounds, spray and pray for the win
The future war cult fusion is amazing looks great and perks are good if it had hotswap it would be AMAZING
Datto if you got a Bonekruscher with Appended Magazine you can up the magazine to 31 Bullets
That sniper looks interesting, has the one perk i need too. Explosive bullets, got that on my 1k stare makes it a great shot gun substitute in PVE.
Got the palindrome and last ditch 001 they rock in PvE, haven't used them yet in PvP.
I do very well with the waltz pulse rifle from fwc. It's the grasp of malok archetype with rangefinder and perfect balance. It could do better in the other perk slot with armour piercing rounds and lightweight. I like running lightweight though on my max agility hunter because it makes me a deadly speed demon
Dead Orbit Fusion Rifle Worlds to Come 001 has an awesome roll.
I got a bonekrusher as a drop. Aggressve balistics, take a knee, armor piercing rounds, and crowd control. its a 3 shot body kill.
Datto how in the fuck do you manage to upload so many instructional videos day 1 while still playing the expansion? Do youu have more people working for you already?
Yeah, he hires people to play the game for him so he has the time to make the videos.
he is just that good and i watched him all day at school
he was able to play rise of iron early so he had an early start
it's like a children's sweatshop except they all play Destiny for him.
whoever is the kid that finds out about the Thorn might actually have dinner.
This is his job. He doesn't have people working for him, he didn't get it early. He's played for as long as he can today.
Zero-Day Dilemma and The Waiting ... its like they knew there would be a tapir stampede on launch day :D
I would like for you to take into account for the parthian shot. Its really useful from what i can tell
Really enjoying using my wounded so far.
Good video. First thing I bought was the hand cannon from the PvP vendor ^~^
I think the vanagaurd pulse is good because it has headseaker, good range, stability, and impact. Also with it having 27 rounds in the mag, it's not a bad buy far someone in need of a primary.
you missed the FWC fusion, it has such a good roll
Bonekruscher was my first vanguard drop :)
You guys should check out the hand cannon from FWC. It has hammer forged and firefly. Definitely picking it up for PvE.
My top picks
Crucible: the crucible vendor hand cannon and sniper. Dead orbit shotty. Maybe the fwc hand cannon and maybe the vanguard scout.
Pve: vanguard machine gun. Maybe the fwc scout.
Personally, that's all I would've put on this list, but I do understand you were being a little more inclusive of different weapon types and niche playstyles.
For crucible I meant to say maybe the fwc pulse, not the hand cannon.
I was in 2 minds between fwc pulse or new monarchy bullet hose as I have neither type
Palindrome is incredible in PvE, haven't tried it out on PvP yet. Do recommend it though
Idk if I am the only one to pick up on this but event horizon is a 1 shot body shot sniper due to explosive rounds I believe, I haven't downloaded RoI but looking at its stats, and this looks deadly.
Yeah don't think so bungie may not be smart when it comes to balancing but there is no way they would allow a weapon like that to exist
Surprised you didn't include the HCs from New Monarchy or the Vanguard vendors. I had a tough time choosing between those and the Crucible HC. I chose the NM one for third eye and higher fire rate and it also has range buffs. Feels pretty good so far. Are you just not a fan of the lower to mid impact HCs?
Best vendor weapon by far is The Waltz by the fwc grasp arc type with a great roll from the vendor in my opinion, but I have one with Outlaw and Glass half full and it seems to do better than my glass half full counterbalance grasp
Still missed quite a few out, but the vendor rolls seem alot stronger than the last few
From what you've shown here it looks like the specific weapon makers have kinda disappeared in this expansion, at least from any of the vendors. I would've thought they'd try and expand on that (like SUROS, Omolon, Hakke), makes me a little sad.
And not much sign of Chroma items either, although they may be package specific.
I do not own this expansion so I'm only making an observation from this video.
Datto, please do a video on how to level quickly
Damn all those amazing scouts, which one to choose 🤔
to add to the last ditch 001 crucible has been dropping matador I've had it drop with full auto, hammer forge, and range finder twice. don't know about God rolls but the thing is absolutely dangerous
I laughed when I saw the chaotic neutral machine gun. I thought that would be perfect for my warlock. Because coincidentally my dungeons and dragons warlock is classified as chaotic neutral under alliegence
Surprised, no mention of FWC's low impact pulse rifle? Also, FWC's low velocity tracking RL for PvE?
Any opinions on Chaotic Neutral (Crucible vendor) vs The Warpath (FWC Vendor)? Looking to pick up an Arc Heavy Weapon for this week's burn.
Hope the armor video is next 👍
My best drop for PvE, Keystone 01 Scout rifle with Full auto, Triple tap and...Firefly!!!
This thing is a monster
hows the stability? the guns stability is low
Yes but it doesn't really matters due to the rate of fire and...aim assist? Dont know but it feels very accurate and easy to use even when its low stability
Hey dato can you please come out with a thorn walkthrough when you know how to get it.
Called that the Keystone would be good! Bought it before anything!
Are any potential weapon rolls worth switching to New Monarchy? (I have a great Waltz, Wounded, Extremophile(s)) but I really want to wear the exotic NM Mark... Any idea?
I got a keystone with extended mag, outlaw and firefly. It's AMAZING in pve
Dead Orbit Shotty dropped for me in a package within the first hour of playing RoI :')
am I the only one that instantly thought about the heavy from TF2 when looking at the bonekrusher?
I passed on all of the above for now. I figured that a 350 ghost shell and class item would be a better use of day one Legendary Marks. What do you think gives the best bang for the buck on launch day?
I heard there was a Grasp archetype Pulse in this expansion?
Vendor stuff amazing! TTK stuff was so dry
The crucible pulse rifle looks pretty descent
No love for the FWC Pulse? That thing is a beast in PvP, and pretty good in PvE as well.
thank you for this video!
Great content Datto. But what about sidearms ?
all sidearms except for exotics are literally the same thing: trash in pve, but decent in Crucible if you have good upgrades.
You know nothing, sidearms are awesome and ever since the buff they are shining in pve and even more in pvp
The angels advo is super fun with explosive rounds in PvE
Hey Datto!! And to anyone reading this comment. Just got the Keystone 01 in a faction package. I think its a good roll. Please lmk what you think...Full Auto, Third Eye, and Zen Moment.
Is Hung Jury still a great scout rifle? I've tried others and they just don't feel as good to use.
I have a keystone 01 with High Caliber rounds, Hammer forged, and zen moment.
Word of advice, I would strongly not recommend using braced frame on Day Zero Dilemma, the mag is too small as it is put to a pitiful 18 rounds. I wish the auto rifles were better, all of them are really not worth picking up because of the mediocre or bad choice of perks.
the crucible vendor's shotgun is very good for pvp and pve
Didn't they nerf field scout so it no longer offers extra ammo on the HMGs?
is anyone elses having the same problem as me, I try to buy rise of iron on xbox it says " query failed"
Hey @datto I found a glitch where you could get inside of a ship in giant husk maybe next time you're on PS4 streaming I could show you?
Why do all of the scout rifles in this video look like the not like the others from year 2
Can decide between Angels Advocate or Keystone 01 for a good PVE scout. What do you guys think?
B 29 party favour crucible pulse rifle melts at long range and short and has got some good perks
first thing i got was that vanguard hand cannon. its good.
I have a PC+1 with Rangefinder and Rifled barrel, is that dead orbit shotty worth a buy or nah?
Datto sounds happy
Missed a good sidearm, FWC sidearm: Wormwood
If you could recommend a single PvE weapon from the vendors, what would it be?
The best kvhostov is the bullet hose one it melts with that stability
thats music to my ears.my first priority when i finish work.so sick of my shitty arminius
Dude try it with scout rifle and extended mag! 26 rounds for a scout rifle that can be increased even further LOL! So much fun. :P
watch fruit the 450 is really good too
Any idea if the gunsmiths guns have been upgraded to year 3?
Anyone know where my spark of light, I already checked my post master and inventory and it wasn't there, please help
Keystone is a three tap in crucible, if you make your shots, it's a good gun.
guys, after many hours of work, I have finally made the best meme. His name is T-shirt guy, and he can be used in so many jokes. nobody but me can use this meme, because I made it.
So there all garbage basically minus the hand cannon, also I was opening packages from fwc earlier and got two of the same rolls in a row same as the vendor version. My question is do the packages only drop the rolls that there selling because if that's the case I'm pissed.
Hey datto when u gonna make a siva cluster vid