John Zorn - Cobra - On Improvisation (1992)

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  • Опубліковано 16 тра 2011
  • From a Derek Bailey's film "On The Edge" (1992)

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  • @haziqalias766
    @haziqalias766 3 роки тому +15

    The fact that he wears different coloured socks explains the type of music he chose to make

  • @zazenbo
    @zazenbo Рік тому +12

    I miss my wife

  • @jebbishop3
    @jebbishop3 9 років тому +59

    The 'trombonist' isn't really a trombonist -- Nic Collins is playing electronics that he designed and installed in an old trombone in such a way that he can use the slide etc. to control some of the electronic parameters. The appearance is somewhat misleading (maybe that's part of the point, a kind of visual joke), but Collins isn't a trombonist and has no idea how to play the trombone. I know this because he told me.

    • @TijsHam
      @TijsHam 4 роки тому +6

      He refers to that as 'trombone propelled electronics' :) Seen him play last year or so. Such an inspirational figure in the world of live-electronics. I also love his book on Handmade Electronic Music :)

  • @espacionapoleon
    @espacionapoleon 8 років тому +4

    Este vídeo es valiosísimo, Jhon con Zenna en el arpa!!

  • @fernandobocadillos
    @fernandobocadillos 6 років тому +2

    THE DOUBLE NECK GUITAR AT 7:51 ...

  • @Illjustwait
    @Illjustwait 2 роки тому +2

    I would love to play this game 😂

  • @andresmaldonadoruiz4171
    @andresmaldonadoruiz4171 4 роки тому +1

    2020

  • @joakoPRIMUS
    @joakoPRIMUS 11 років тому +3

    primary artist (composer):John Zorn
    Music??: Avant-Garde

  • @mikewonkiatz4755
    @mikewonkiatz4755 10 років тому +4

    this is fantastic but a 'line-up' would be greatly appreciated. are there credits for this at the end of the film? i havnt been able to find it for download. info?

    • @kickwad3509
      @kickwad3509 5 років тому +7

      Zeena Parkins (Electric Harp) Matthew Ostrowski (Synthesizer) David Shea (Turn Tables) Chris Cochrane (Guitar) Evan Gallagher (Keyboards) Mark Howell (Guitar) __?__ (Trombone like ) Doug Henderson (Double neck guitar/bass) __?__ (Drums) __?__ (Casio keyboard) Guy Yarden (Violin) Anthony Coleman (Keyboards) and John Zorn (Prompter)

    • @TijsHam
      @TijsHam 4 роки тому +1

      @@kickwad3509 _?_ (Trombone like ) = Nic Collins (Trombone Propelled Electronics)

    • @bebopj
      @bebopj 2 роки тому +2

      @@kickwad3509 Tim Spelios - Drums

  • @jefflschwartz
    @jefflschwartz 9 років тому +2

    Looks like Zeena Parkins on harp, Nicholas Collins on trombone/electronics, Kramer on organ,

    • @antcol8
      @antcol8 2 роки тому +1

      Not Kramer - Evan Gallagher and Yours Truly on organs...

  • @brethiggins9808
    @brethiggins9808 8 років тому +1

    Pretty sure that's Elliott Sharp on the double neck guitar/bass.

    • @kickwad3509
      @kickwad3509 5 років тому +1

      No, Douglas Henderson on the double neck guitar/bass.

  • @Jochertime
    @Jochertime 12 років тому

    the trombonist has some sort of microphone in his trombone

  • @zacharydetrick7428
    @zacharydetrick7428 4 роки тому +2

    I thought that was Bryce Dessner on guitar. He's probably too young to be in this, though

  • @dzigerica666
    @dzigerica666 6 років тому +1

    he's 39 in this video????

  • @user-cd3ts7bl8y
    @user-cd3ts7bl8y 11 місяців тому

    こういう音楽をやっている時、あまりエキサイトし過ぎたり、エキサイトしなかったりしたら、リーダーから注意されるんだろうか?

    • @roidy9
      @roidy9 8 місяців тому +1

      演奏に対してポジティブに作用しているようであれば、原則放置ではないかと。度が過ぎているようであればプロンプトを利用して(つまりそれすらも演奏の一環として)警告されると思います。

  • @marcelvermeulen9550
    @marcelvermeulen9550 4 роки тому +2

    kindergarten for adults ?

  • @tubebeaver1
    @tubebeaver1 6 років тому +13

    white people crack me up

    • @atree88
      @atree88 6 років тому +8

      Start with his Masada band. They fucking sound so good.

    • @drumtwo4seven
      @drumtwo4seven 5 років тому +3

      This video is kind of gay but his other bands (some of them) are actually pretty good. I own a few of his compact discs from the 1990s... Ill look them up and list their names. Its pretty good stuff actually (again)
      👍

    • @fvrmusicgr
      @fvrmusicgr 3 роки тому

      @Bill Laswell Wait is this THE Bill Laswell. If so, lots of your music's gotten me through 2020. 🤘🏼

    • @gal2659
      @gal2659 2 роки тому +3

      @@fvrmusicgr lol looks like he deleted his comment, now I wonder what was it about

    • @SkullOfTheAbyss
      @SkullOfTheAbyss Рік тому

      Very few of these people are white. Most if not all of them are Jewish.

  • @Freeway_Rollercoaster
    @Freeway_Rollercoaster 3 роки тому +1

    Yawn

  • @sarasoto5145
    @sarasoto5145 2 роки тому

    Kind of makes me mad how this white man came along and appropriated the name of jazz. Why not come up with your own genre since you improvise so good lol. Totally unrelated to the fundamentals of jazz but this cultural appropriation is accepted? Make it make sense, also they're just making noise but whatever

    • @symbolkid
      @symbolkid  2 роки тому +3

      "Jazz" word was a given name to the music of a certain kind by critics in early XX century, not by musicians. In black community in those days primaly it meant some sexual behaviour. So maybe for these white men here this word is just a point to sensual basic of music lol. As long as they can play and express something meaningful they can call it anything as Miles once said. Music has meaning, words are bla bla bla

    • @sarasoto5145
      @sarasoto5145 2 роки тому

      @@symbolkid no, don’t try to justify cultural appropriation. We all know jazz’s roots are African American expression, jazz requires the knowledge of blues and swing and dates back to the days of racial injustice. It’s not a word it’s a genre

    • @symbolkid
      @symbolkid  2 роки тому +7

      ​@@sarasoto5145 Blues, swing and more old African genres are extremely important contribution, for sure. But jazz is also based on classical idiom of white musicians of old - the structure, arangments, all of that. So all in all it is multucultural.

    • @BromeliadBro
      @BromeliadBro 2 роки тому +6

      "They're just making noise" is what lots of people have said about jazz since its inception, and while it's important for any jazz musician to recognize its roots, it has been multicultural from the start. You're checking in with a moment in time in the career of John Zorn and making a lot of assumptions.

    • @sarasoto5145
      @sarasoto5145 2 роки тому

      @@BromeliadBro no when white folks used that phrase it was with the connotation that black people were uneducated and didn’t understand scales, musical algorithms, progressions, harmonizing etc. But in this case they’re attempting to take what black people worked so hard for, a musical genre to recognize their musical advances and completely changing the style and now redefining the word Jazz??? It’s completely unfair, can’t see black people achieve anything for their community because then it has to be redefined lol