Defiance Action Overview And How To Choose The Correct One

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  • Опубліковано 20 вер 2024

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  • @20020x
    @20020x Рік тому +50

    They are great but screwed a lot of people when they raised there prices $500 on actions that were already on order. I would look at Mack Brothers or Pierce as an alternative rather than give Bob Beck more money to go on hunts.

    • @somebrains5431
      @somebrains5431 5 місяців тому +1

      This post should be stickied.

    • @20020x
      @20020x 5 місяців тому

      @somebrains5431 not sure what this means, thanks

    • @somebrains5431
      @somebrains5431 5 місяців тому +1

      @@20020x I was thinking of the various precision, long range, hunting, tactical forums that all exploded with negative sentiment when Defiance was bought out and the price hike hit.

    • @Barnes-ml9wg
      @Barnes-ml9wg 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@20020x he means your post should be pinned to the top of the comments so everyone can see it

    • @JjAbrhams
      @JjAbrhams 2 місяці тому +2

      Yep, I went with Terminus. Joel has the best customer service I've encountered, and I think his actions are second to none.

  • @matthewmiddleton5522
    @matthewmiddleton5522 Рік тому +15

    I’ve bought 2 Tenacity actions (one stainless, one nitride) and an Impact Precision action. I love the Tenacity, especially with the nitride, but it’s hard to buy a Tenacity for $1600 when you can get an Impact with an integral rail, AW compatible, and nitride finish for $1,400. If Defiance would bring the price back down around $1,200-1,300, I would probably go back to buying them.

  • @pr0_tr0ll
    @pr0_tr0ll 2 роки тому +7

    I just found defiance actions a few weeks back, and this video gave me so much info on what action im looking for. absolutely awesome video thanks for all the information

  • @michaelpope7642
    @michaelpope7642 Рік тому +7

    I own 2 Tenacity actions, one bare stainless and one nitride coated. Couldn’t be happier with them and I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend them to anyone. Top tier gear 👍

    • @thecchan999
      @thecchan999 Рік тому

      Do you notice a difference in cycling "smoothness" between stainless and nitride finish? Reason why I ask is trying to decide on new AntiX action...

    • @michaelpope7642
      @michaelpope7642 Рік тому +1

      Honestly they are both very smooth with no hang up, my nitride one feels a little better due to increased use but you can’t go wrong with either. Nitride looks better though 😎

  • @davep3163
    @davep3163 8 місяців тому +1

    If you’re going custom get a 3 lug like Terminus, short smooth throw, good clearance from scope, you’ll never look back!

  • @tiputipu777
    @tiputipu777 4 місяці тому +2

    Those actions are almost as smooth as Tikka or Sako factory actions

  • @troyelder56
    @troyelder56 Рік тому +3

    There’s a lot of competition in custom actions now with Zermatt, ARC, and now a big newcomer Aero precision. Honestly i think the differences between these will be customer service, feature set, barrel compatibility, and the big one PRICE! Sometimes you get what you pay for other times it’s diminishing returns.
    I don’t believe these actions have interchangeable bolt heads which is a big deal to me.

    • @aaronwilcox6417
      @aaronwilcox6417 Рік тому

      Roger that. American Rifle Co is another player. It's good to have options.

  • @alpalmieri8644
    @alpalmieri8644 14 днів тому +1

    Lot of money for a fancy rem.700 round bottom receiver.I will stick with my Win 70 and Howas

  • @jeffranck6080
    @jeffranck6080 Рік тому +4

    I actually prefer three lug actions for the shorter bolt lift. However, I'm not finding a lot of custom three lug actions. Most seem to be built around the two lug Remington pattern. Loved the video!

    • @ks_mason4775
      @ks_mason4775 Рік тому +4

      Terminus, Curtis, BAT, GAP Tempest, American Rifle Company. Very slick options available

    • @jeffranck6080
      @jeffranck6080 Рік тому

      @@ks_mason4775 Thanks for the tips!

    • @ForceRecon112
      @ForceRecon112 Рік тому

      the new ARC action is SLICK

    • @44240xtp
      @44240xtp 10 місяців тому

      In my opinion , it is easier to get and maintain 2 full contact , flush mating surfaces than 3 or more. I like 2 lug actions over 3. Just my thoughts here.

  • @triggersafe1
    @triggersafe1 Місяць тому

    I chose the Ruckus for mine.

  • @sf2189
    @sf2189 Рік тому

    I love my Ruckus Tactical short action

  • @christophersmith2998
    @christophersmith2998 Рік тому

    THANK YOU! So Much ...

  • @joeyzagari4155
    @joeyzagari4155 26 днів тому

    Thankyou great video. But there’s more to ask. What actions are meant for double stack double feed or can you show how floor plate, box mag and AICS mate and cycle with the action? What if you want a shorter than short action cartridge like 6mm arc and keeping the bottom flat with no magazine poking out, that would mean box magazine or bottom metal floor plate. I’m so confused.

  • @ironcity4392
    @ironcity4392 Рік тому

    Very good info!

  • @jordanlongstreet3057
    @jordanlongstreet3057 11 місяців тому +3

    Im sure theyre better but are they twice the price of my tikka t3 rifle better? Can they take a half minute .75 minute rifle to a .3 minute rifle? If not then $1600 plus doesnt seem worth it at all

  • @travisnorton9097
    @travisnorton9097 10 місяців тому

    Defiance actions are smooth but push that bolt at a bad angle and it’s gonna bind up. That’s a big issue when they’re priced at the top

  • @billhendon1017
    @billhendon1017 6 днів тому

    Nice

  • @Sanwizard1
    @Sanwizard1 Рік тому

    Love my Tenacity

  • @raphpiette6297
    @raphpiette6297 Рік тому

    Great video but the 6ARC dosent use the 473 bolt face like mentionned. It use the ppc bolt face .445"

  • @ardleopard
    @ardleopard 10 місяців тому

    Great video explaining the basics, but hold on for a minute... is the picatinny mount not integral to the action on the Tenacity and the anTi? I would go for their other actions which offer that.

  • @HawkDriverJD
    @HawkDriverJD Рік тому +1

    Was wondering what was the barrel y’all were using in this video? Getting a CF barrel for my next build and I like the profile of it. Thanks!

  • @InkwellFoto
    @InkwellFoto Рік тому +3

    Where does the Ruckus stack between these two?

  • @dragonflyfab9703
    @dragonflyfab9703 Рік тому

    1.120 x 16 or 20tpi tenon for the big ones would be good!

  • @YellowCab524
    @YellowCab524 Місяць тому

    I’m finding it difficult to decide which action to go with a Proof Research pre fit 6mm Creedmoor barrel that I have on layaway.

  • @garrettgutierrez2677
    @garrettgutierrez2677 4 місяці тому

    Hurry up and ge the Ruckus in stock!

  • @snyderman9791
    @snyderman9791 Рік тому

    Thanks for the video! i have a tenacity and would like to know if it works with detachable AICS magazines. This will be going into a chassis that has no floor plate but a magazine opening for detachable magazines, thanks!

  • @nate54557
    @nate54557 Рік тому +1

    I have two questions. 1.) does the xm have the short action rem 700 stock footprint or is it its own size for stocks? 2.) is defiance worth the extra $400 over say stiller?

    • @ddhi
      @ddhi Рік тому

      i can say about #2, but for #1, Defiance XM is Rem 700 footprint, but neither Rem 700 SA nor Rem 700 LA specification. So basically the space between action screws are different and you won't be install the XM to Rem 700 SA inlet, and you have to purchase stocks that have inlet specifically for Defiance XM. This is also true for their XM+ that has been released recently. To be honest, i hate manufactures making their own 'proprietary' specification in names of 'giving customer more choices'. It indeed limites your choice compare to the vast after market support for 'standard' Rem 700 SA / LA actions, and will end up costing you more.

  • @Restoule
    @Restoule Рік тому +1

    Am I missing something? Why does the anTi logo have the Titanium periodic symbol in it? Even has the square around the Ti which implies that it's made out of titanium, but there's none to be found. Only boring 416SS 😂 That's kind of misleading.

    • @landonboomsma2594
      @landonboomsma2594 8 місяців тому

      That’s the point. It’s saying anti-titanium. Defiance doesn’t like titanium for actions so they made a steel action as light as all the other brands titanium actions

  • @GregMcM
    @GregMcM Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the video. What are the chassis options for the XM length?

    • @jas0nlam
      @jas0nlam Рік тому

      I can think of the MDT ACC and MPA BA off the top of my head

    • @ddhi
      @ddhi Рік тому

      MDT ACC Premier and XLR Element 4.0 have inlet for Defiance XM. I actaully dislike those 'medium action' specifications, including Defiance XM and Zermatt Medium. You choose something non 'standard', you limit your choice and end up paying more. For 'standard', I mean Rem SA and Rem LA CIP.

  • @hunterwhiteneck142
    @hunterwhiteneck142 Рік тому +1

    so will the hawkins m5 dbm work with any defiance action? As i want to put a DBM on a rifle.

  • @SpudOutdoors
    @SpudOutdoors Рік тому

    I didn’t see model 7 on your website. Wish there was a nitride option.

    • @midwestgunworks
      @midwestgunworks  Рік тому +1

      There are Nitride options. Unfortunately we do not currently carry them on our website.

  • @sagespinner9526
    @sagespinner9526 Рік тому

    Is the “Wyatt” magazine cut able to work with single stack AICS magazines as well?

  • @MR-oy4fc
    @MR-oy4fc Рік тому +1

    Kelbly Prometheus.

  • @NaNa-rb7ou
    @NaNa-rb7ou 5 місяців тому

    $1600 for basic bitch 2 lug action with 90 degree bolt life push feed, from a company that hasn’t had any shooter won any championship, I’ll go with Borden action.

  • @CharlesCopeland-bm1el
    @CharlesCopeland-bm1el 5 місяців тому

    I would like to build a precision rifle i can shoot 6.5prc and 7prc from the same gun. Perhaps 6.5 creedmoor as well as. Is this possibly with a Defiance action? Thanks for your time.

    • @2whl4re
      @2whl4re 11 днів тому

      You're kind of mixing long action/short action with those cartridge choices. If you want these three, you'll have to buy a long action to fit the 7PRC, 6.5PRC will also be great, and the Creed should work ok in a long action.
      If you want an easy switch-barrel rifle, one for all three cartridges, look at the Terminus Zeus QC long action. Simple barrel swap in a couple of minutes, no barrel vise needed.

  • @tankerboysabot
    @tankerboysabot 8 місяців тому

    Will these work on the Pork Sword chassis?

  • @mishasumi6827
    @mishasumi6827 Рік тому +2

    Why does every bv gun video have to start with obnoxious hm guitar music?
    "I'm in hillbilly hell" - lightning McQueen

  • @alvinhamby1779
    @alvinhamby1779 Рік тому

    Will a criterion remage barrel system work with these

  • @garysandberg9929
    @garysandberg9929 Рік тому

    I bought a Defiant Deviance receiver 6.5 x 47 Lapua. I can't get the bolt to go all the way into the receiver. It sticks out about 1 1/2"?

    • @ertatta
      @ertatta 8 місяців тому

      Get a Borden or Kelbley 😉

  • @whitecollarbehindtheglass6214

    What action is the best for 6.5 prc?

  • @leehrvyoswld
    @leehrvyoswld 11 місяців тому

    Zermatt Origin.

  • @BladesAndbullets
    @BladesAndbullets Рік тому

    What Bolt head diameter would you use for 300 PRC

  • @Hammam-Alharith
    @Hammam-Alharith 3 місяці тому

    is teeth size in receivers are same?

  • @mitchelyates9715
    @mitchelyates9715 Рік тому +2

    I hate when companies advertise using words like "titanium" or "Ti" when their actual product isn't even made of titanium, also the pictures of the AnTi on their website don't have the "aluminum" bolt shroud on it. that said, it does look pretty nice tho...

    • @jfritzke
      @jfritzke Рік тому +3

      That's the joke. Defiance is AnTi titanium, but you get an action made of 416 that weighs about the same as a titanium action. They're not shy about telling you that it's a stainless action.

    • @Deadi12
      @Deadi12 Рік тому

      It's name is AnTi ie anti-titanium.

  • @jimtebelskis5437
    @jimtebelskis5437 5 місяців тому

    The video reviews standard detail, common for all mfrs - doesn't help much for choosing available options from Defiance.

  • @2S1L3NT
    @2S1L3NT Рік тому

    My brain is fried!!! I'm having a he|| of a time sourcing the parts I need to build a 300 PRC... especially available ones.
    I've deduced the need for CIP magazines and the twist rate etc. But finding an action that is LA, and accepts that CIP magazine from the MDT ACC chassis (Rem 700 LA CIP 3.850) that I purchased is proving extremely difficult.
    I discovered the Impact 787r custom action will work, but it's out of stock Everywhere.
    Ive been looking for at least 10 hours today and have yet to get a solid answer on any other actions that will work for me.
    Help? 🙏

    • @carrot2851
      @carrot2851 Рік тому

      I am in the exact same boat as you. I've decided on the MDT ACC chassis as well and can't find anything that adds up to the rem 700 footprint. If you find anything else useful please let me know. Thanks in advance.

    • @jas0nlam
      @jas0nlam Рік тому

      787r (mag bolt face) seems to be available at Altus at this time. Might want to check?

    • @2S1L3NT
      @2S1L3NT Рік тому

      @@jas0nlam Thanks Jason, I ended up finding a Lone Peak Fuzion. It should be here Monday. Hope it does what I need it to do!

    • @2S1L3NT
      @2S1L3NT Рік тому

      @@carrot2851 Impact specifically notes it'll work for the CIP mag length but I couldn't find any in stock anywhere when I was shopping. I went with a Fuzion action and I'll have it Monday. Hopefully it works out for me. But the Impact action is now available on Altus... damn!
      Maybe you can score one tho. I was impatient.

    • @carrot2851
      @carrot2851 Рік тому +1

      @@2S1L3NT alright, thank you for the help!

  • @Huntingvlog12
    @Huntingvlog12 3 місяці тому

    Cara pesan nya bagai mana boss

  • @borisptitsyn2130
    @borisptitsyn2130 Рік тому

    how do you change the barrel on a barreled action?

    • @midwestgunworks
      @midwestgunworks  Рік тому +1

      You will need a barrel vice and action wrench. Then you can unscrew the barrel (they are tight), and install a pre fit. After installing you always want to check headspace with the correct go/no go gauges.

    • @borisptitsyn2130
      @borisptitsyn2130 Рік тому

      @@midwestgunworks thanks for the reply. greatly appreciated. the video is very informative as well. thanks for the video.

  • @jay-by1se
    @jay-by1se Рік тому

    at the end of all of this, just get a bragara it's the same.

  • @jacopienaar9157
    @jacopienaar9157 Рік тому

    hey bud wil this fit on my howa 1500 with a mdt ess chassis

    • @jas0nlam
      @jas0nlam Рік тому

      This is Rem 700 footprint so no, wont fit

    • @jacopienaar9157
      @jacopienaar9157 Рік тому

      @@jas0nlam so what action can i use?

    • @jas0nlam
      @jas0nlam Рік тому +3

      @@jacopienaar9157 Not aware of any custom action footprinting to Howa. Howa, like Tikka is on its own foortprint system which are both supported by a few chassis and stock manufacturers. If you already have Howa in a chassis, suggest you stick to it and then get an excuse to buy a new custom action that's Rem 700 based.

  • @mishasumi6827
    @mishasumi6827 Рік тому

    My only concern is that I don't think they fit MDT chassis

  • @tomspeed2000
    @tomspeed2000 Рік тому

    Cheapest is 2400 euro in europ, really need to migrate from this parts of world ..

  • @LifeisGood-ye8rl
    @LifeisGood-ye8rl Рік тому

    $1700 bucks for action alone thanx but no thanx and the bolt throw still 90 degree.

  • @kerryddepew674
    @kerryddepew674 10 місяців тому +1

    No thanks I take a BAT or a Kelbly.

    • @ertatta
      @ertatta 8 місяців тому

      Borden 💪🏽

    • @chef_hood
      @chef_hood 5 місяців тому

      ​@ertatta trying to build a rem 700 .300 win mag but can't find anything from Borden, can u help?

  • @roycetolley4987
    @roycetolley4987 7 місяців тому +2

    Asking too much for their damn actions

  • @josephfurrer5000
    @josephfurrer5000 11 місяців тому

    None of them. There are better options out there!

  • @nebraskaman8247
    @nebraskaman8247 8 місяців тому

    None of them. Don’t think they are worth what they charge anymore.

  • @fulmer130
    @fulmer130 8 місяців тому

    Over priced

  • @jdirt1982
    @jdirt1982 Рік тому +2

    So do the short medium and xm all still fit short action footprint chassis and stocks ????

  • @jdirt1982
    @jdirt1982 Рік тому

    So if I wanna do a 300 blk build that's going in a bergara stock that came from a 6.5 prc rifle I'm gonna want the medium action ? And does the short action ( model 7) still fit remington short action stocks. Or is that a whole other blumpstiltskin?

    • @midwestgunworks
      @midwestgunworks  Рік тому

      A .300 BLK would be a medium action with a .390 bolt face.